@@WalterGerig oh I know. What I’m saying is I hope it’s mixed correctly. Mick Gordon was “done” with his soundtrack but they canned him before he had time to mix it for the gameplay. That’s what scares me
The title is pretty fascinating. Teleology is a philosophy that sees purpose in ends rather than causes. This makes the outcome the actual or final cause. Basically in teleology actions are explained by their results. This is very interesting stuff as it relates to the nature of the Precursors, The Witness, and The Final Shape.
@@mediocregamer2484 Exactly, which is why it's so fascinating when it comes to The Final Shape and The Witness. The purpose of the final shape is to end suffering, but in doing so it causes so much suffering. But under this belief it wouldn't matter because all suffering would end for all time forever.
@@dredgenspaceanother interesting thing to note though, is that through the FS Collectors Edition lore book we learn that everything it's been doing to specifically us and the Eliksni was out of essentially malice, and immensely inefficient as a result. It didn't have to waste years making us suffer, it could have just swooped in and wiped us out in minutes or hours like it has so many other species. It hates us, for some reason.
@@bbjuice7837 That is interesting! I haven't read the collector's lore yet but if this is true It has some fascinating implications on the character of the witness.
@@bbjuice7837 Honestly, I always had my personal theory that humanity itself was somehow born from darkness. It isn't crazy considering Exos and Awoken already are, but the thing is, TWQ revealed that the Hive were a species always meant to recieve the gift of Light, the Witness stole them and made them tools of his dark crusade. I remember some lore tabs have compared human atrocities to the effects of darkness and BL confirms we always the ability to master Stasis (and noe Strand). Wouldn't it be interesting if humanity was somehow raised to be a part of the the Final Shape, but in symmetry to the Hive, the Traveler saved us and instead made us the one chance she has to stop the Final Shape
It’s insane to hear a salvation reharmonization I wrote 3 years ago in a fully produced track. I never thought it could actually work, but here we are. You’re starting to scare me with how good you’re getting at this. Please don’t stop making music❤
From 4:14 until the end you can almost feel the uncountable genocides, Collapses, Whirlwinds, catastrophes, and infinitely unmeasurable atrocities this monster is responsible for pushing you to finally end it. Like as if the souls of the murdered trillions are telling you "do it. Just a little more. You can do it. You can bring this to a close once and for all."
“You have seen the truth. You have experience both pain and sorrow. For that is the truth of life. Come, Gardener’s slave. We will free you from the shackles of anguish and bless you with the graceful gift… of finality.”
If we don’t get something like this for the final fight for the witness then ima be real disappointed. This is exactly what I’d imagine the witnesses final raid boss ost to sound like. It truly sounds like this is the final fight.
It's really awesome to see fan creative work enter the music realm. This feels right out of the game, it's excellent. Thank you for continuing to create!
Having listened to both this and the official piece, I personally think this is more fitting. The official raid theme is genuinely outstanding, no discredit to it because it's a gorgeous piece, but I do feel like the more heavy use of synths, the Darkness motif, etc. fits the theme of "taking on THE big bad of the Black Fleet" Absolutely stunning work with this, as some others have said, if I had never heard this with the context of it being fanmade, I would've thought it was official music! Also personal timestamp 3:14
I feel the same! The way the black fleet theme turns darkly heroic would've been sick as the DPS phase man. The actual theme isn't dark enough and it's kinda all over the place.
@@CJWIII agree. While I understand that the official track is supposed to go along with the theme that we're desperately trying to interrupt the Final Shape, but even then it still feels less like "facing off against THE WITNESS" and more like "Motif: the raid, but the final stand is actually perfect"
@@bbjuice7837 So he would be kind of looking DOWN at us, fun fact, Calus at the end of lightfall in concept art is only the size of the witness up to his ankle
If someone had told me this was a leaked soundtrack for a season or a raid encounter, I'd have believed them without a second thought tbh. This is very well made.
Love the music, really excited for tomorrow and the music of tfs going to be an emotional roller coaster through the final story of light and dark. Been a hell of a ride, but promise me one thing everyone. In the words of banshee, “ put the witness into the ground”. For cayde, for the vanguard, for humanity. 😤
I feel like this encompasses the Witness so well. This one has desperation and hope all at the same time, and the last part of the song feels soo urgent as the tempo ramps up. As if it is your final stand against him as opposed to The Witness's last attempt. I feel like this song does what Unmade should have done.
I swear if the raid theme for The Witness doesn’t hit this hard I’m going to turn my whole fireteam into exotic weapons. Also what do you use to make musical masterpieces like this?
Too many things to list it all but I write, compose, and produce everything in FL Studio making use of plugins and samplers like Kontakt, Omnisphere, and Opus.
Pretty much. I think Salvatori was angry and just threw something together. The Raid boss version and even the Excision one just don't make me feel like I'm fighting a living calamity. Why does Rhulks theme go harder than the being that made him 😤
@@CJWII that's the neat part buddy, salvatori doesn't compose undame lmao. Tho i grow to like unmade more now, it's feels like a continuation from oneirophobia and the start before choose your own fate
I wanna feel like my life is on the line with the final fight, i wanna feel like this fight is do or die, if the music doesnt get me feeling like this, i dont want the final shape raid
I'm so happy that you decided to try out making your own stuff. This is legitimately great work Breshi, looking forward to any possibly future tracks from yourself.
Now that ive heard the actual Witness boss theme...Im just gonna pretend this one is official. Sometimes less is more and the actual theme is just all over the place and does nothing to evolve the black fleet motif like this one did at 3:18.
Yeah that was my biggest disappointment with Final Shape, the Witnesses themes fell flat for both encounters with it. Excision was perfect but the campaign and raid themes aren't it chief.
@nullandvoid7524 Yeah I got slaughtered by fanboys on the video for the actual theme. I said that it was directionless and used too many unrelated motifs in it instead of expanding on the Black Fleet motif like Tenebrium did masterfully. As for the campaign they did great with the emotional and exploration music but the combat music fell short with the exception of the Ogre fight in Iconoclasm when you have to kill the two Hive giants for the symbols.
For whoever liked the comment thanks and if you're reading this Breshi I would love to see a raid that is based on Touhou Project like sure I would do it but I lack the skills to even do stuff like this I have reached out to Destimix a while back asking for the same thing after they were done with the Io raid soundtrack I wonder if you're up for a task like this and both versions of the fight forever soundtrack is amazing I wish that you could continue with the fan raid soundtracks in fact you can use this idea of mine to further enhance your experience with making soundtracks like that
Breshi I know that you're reading this like I love what you have done I think that you got my idea right in the bag like I would love to see what comes out if you actually want to do my idea but you do you it's your choice I don't mind
@@Breshi123 I don't know man. That's literally what I imagined his boss music sounding like. I think they have there work cut out for them. For those who have hear this song, the actual boss music might be a let down.
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The Witness's raid boss theme is probably what I'm most excited to hear in TFS
I just hope it was mixed before Michael got canned. Might have another doom eternal situation on our hands.
As far as I'm aware they said all final shape music was finished before the layoffs
@@Big_kahuna_guy Michael has completed all of the Final shape soundtrack, thats why he got layed of, becuase they had no work for him
@@WalterGerig oh I know. What I’m saying is I hope it’s mixed correctly. Mick Gordon was “done” with his soundtrack but they canned him before he had time to mix it for the gameplay. That’s what scares me
ive been thinking of how sick it would be to use hope for the future
The title is pretty fascinating. Teleology is a philosophy that sees purpose in ends rather than causes. This makes the outcome the actual or final cause. Basically in teleology actions are explained by their results. This is very interesting stuff as it relates to the nature of the Precursors, The Witness, and The Final Shape.
So, like a "ends justify the means" type of view?
@@mediocregamer2484 Exactly, which is why it's so fascinating when it comes to The Final Shape and The Witness. The purpose of the final shape is to end suffering, but in doing so it causes so much suffering. But under this belief it wouldn't matter because all suffering would end for all time forever.
@@dredgenspaceanother interesting thing to note though, is that through the FS Collectors Edition lore book we learn that everything it's been doing to specifically us and the Eliksni was out of essentially malice, and immensely inefficient as a result. It didn't have to waste years making us suffer, it could have just swooped in and wiped us out in minutes or hours like it has so many other species. It hates us, for some reason.
@@bbjuice7837 That is interesting! I haven't read the collector's lore yet but if this is true It has some fascinating implications on the character of the witness.
@@bbjuice7837 Honestly, I always had my personal theory that humanity itself was somehow born from darkness. It isn't crazy considering Exos and Awoken already are, but the thing is, TWQ revealed that the Hive were a species always meant to recieve the gift of Light, the Witness stole them and made them tools of his dark crusade.
I remember some lore tabs have compared human atrocities to the effects of darkness and BL confirms we always the ability to master Stasis (and noe Strand). Wouldn't it be interesting if humanity was somehow raised to be a part of the the Final Shape, but in symmetry to the Hive, the Traveler saved us and instead made us the one chance she has to stop the Final Shape
3:18 the final shape
That transition was majestic af.
It’s insane to hear a salvation reharmonization I wrote 3 years ago in a fully produced track. I never thought it could actually work, but here we are. You’re starting to scare me with how good you’re getting at this. Please don’t stop making music❤
From 4:14 until the end you can almost feel the uncountable genocides, Collapses, Whirlwinds, catastrophes, and infinitely unmeasurable atrocities this monster is responsible for pushing you to finally end it. Like as if the souls of the murdered trillions are telling you "do it. Just a little more. You can do it. You can bring this to a close once and for all."
That fits so perfectly
Amazing take man, especially since you commented before we even knew about the Dissenters. Nailed it 👍
if we get anything like this for the Witner raid I will SHIT myself
Witner
Witner
Witner
Witner
it's witning time
“You have seen the truth. You have experience both pain and sorrow. For that is the truth of life.
Come, Gardener’s slave. We will free you from the shackles of anguish and bless you with the graceful gift… of finality.”
This piece fully encapsulates the fury of the witness, the line "its rage could burn the very stars to cinders" comes to mind. Amazing work as always!
That slow chord progression at 3:20 with the heavy clang hammer percussion, leading into the Guardian refrain is something juicy, very satisfied.
I can’t give you enough props for how hard this song goes. This is what I wanted from the soundtrack.
This is insane!!!! This feels like the final raid encounter for the witness!! These soundtracks need to be on spotify
If we don’t get something like this for the final fight for the witness then ima be real disappointed. This is exactly what I’d imagine the witnesses final raid boss ost to sound like. It truly sounds like this is the final fight.
Now this is a track that gets my heart pumping. Truly feels like an encounter with the most dangerous being in the universe. Terrifying
From a lore perspective, the name of your track goes hard af. Oh, and 3:18 when the Pyramid theme turns heroic is incredible 👏
It's really awesome to see fan creative work enter the music realm. This feels right out of the game, it's excellent. Thank you for continuing to create!
Having listened to both this and the official piece, I personally think this is more fitting. The official raid theme is genuinely outstanding, no discredit to it because it's a gorgeous piece, but I do feel like the more heavy use of synths, the Darkness motif, etc. fits the theme of "taking on THE big bad of the Black Fleet"
Absolutely stunning work with this, as some others have said, if I had never heard this with the context of it being fanmade, I would've thought it was official music!
Also personal timestamp 3:14
I feel the same! The way the black fleet theme turns darkly heroic would've been sick as the DPS phase man. The actual theme isn't dark enough and it's kinda all over the place.
@@CJWIII agree. While I understand that the official track is supposed to go along with the theme that we're desperately trying to interrupt the Final Shape, but even then it still feels less like "facing off against THE WITNESS" and more like "Motif: the raid, but the final stand is actually perfect"
A masterpiece as always, your Darkness themed tracks slap. Also, I love the background picture because its damn TERRIFYING
Also consider that the Witness's physical form is over 100 feet/30 meters tall
@@bbjuice7837 So he would be kind of looking DOWN at us, fun fact, Calus at the end of lightfall in concept art is only the size of the witness up to his ankle
If someone had told me this was a leaked soundtrack for a season or a raid encounter, I'd have believed them without a second thought tbh.
This is very well made.
Love the music, really excited for tomorrow and the music of tfs going to be an emotional roller coaster through the final story of light and dark. Been a hell of a ride, but promise me one thing everyone. In the words of banshee, “ put the witness into the ground”.
For cayde, for the vanguard, for humanity. 😤
3:18 brought tears to my eyes, amazing work once again Breshi ❤
Sounds like something when the Hero is using his enemies weapon or technology and is getting corrupted by it the more he wields it. Good one, Bro.
I feel like this encompasses the Witness so well. This one has desperation and hope all at the same time, and the last part of the song feels soo urgent as the tempo ramps up. As if it is your final stand against him as opposed to The Witness's last attempt.
I feel like this song does what Unmade should have done.
I would kill for an extended version of this track, it’s so good! 😍
Our final fight against The Witness come ! Maybe his [Many] face can make a good weapon
This is amazing and it absolutely should've won MOTW
I swear if the raid theme for The Witness doesn’t hit this hard I’m going to turn my whole fireteam into exotic weapons. Also what do you use to make musical masterpieces like this?
Too many things to list it all but I write, compose, and produce everything in FL Studio making use of plugins and samplers like Kontakt, Omnisphere, and Opus.
@@Breshi123opus? Bro this song IS your magnum opus for TFS
the way this is put together and uses the motifs makes it seem like it’s an official track! amazing job it sounds so goood
back from final shape this is still be my canon witness ost
Pretty much. I think Salvatori was angry and just threw something together. The Raid boss version and even the Excision one just don't make me feel like I'm fighting a living calamity. Why does Rhulks theme go harder than the being that made him 😤
@@CJWII that's the neat part buddy, salvatori doesn't compose undame lmao. Tho i grow to like unmade more now, it's feels like a continuation from oneirophobia and the start before choose your own fate
Awesome stuff as always 👏
Beautiful...
This almost made me faint with emotion lol, incredible
My witness…
The final fight between light and dark
❤️
I always always amazed by your witness themed song but this one is the absolute peak of it
W description and song title
Cook!
I wanna feel like my life is on the line with the final fight, i wanna feel like this fight is do or die, if the music doesnt get me feeling like this, i dont want the final shape raid
I'm so happy that you decided to try out making your own stuff. This is legitimately great work Breshi, looking forward to any possibly future tracks from yourself.
Couldn't have picked a better image and title to go with the music
The "eyes" are terrifying.
good lord this rules
Now that ive heard the actual Witness boss theme...Im just gonna pretend this one is official. Sometimes less is more and the actual theme is just all over the place and does nothing to evolve the black fleet motif like this one did at 3:18.
Yeah that was my biggest disappointment with Final Shape, the Witnesses themes fell flat for both encounters with it.
Excision was perfect but the campaign and raid themes aren't it chief.
@nullandvoid7524 Yeah I got slaughtered by fanboys on the video for the actual theme. I said that it was directionless and used too many unrelated motifs in it instead of expanding on the Black Fleet motif like Tenebrium did masterfully.
As for the campaign they did great with the emotional and exploration music but the combat music fell short with the exception of the Ogre fight in Iconoclasm when you have to kill the two Hive giants for the symbols.
Saw you needing out over wwise and the game’s music stems on twitter, had a feeling you were cooking something. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
once again, he cooked
Amazing work mate keep it up!
This goes so hard.
This is some sick music bro
Some of your best fuckin' work, Breshi o7
this is amazing
This is on fire, love it!! 🤍
I would love to see this used in a raid soundtrack that is tied to Touhou Project
For whoever liked the comment thanks and if you're reading this Breshi I would love to see a raid that is based on Touhou Project like sure I would do it but I lack the skills to even do stuff like this I have reached out to Destimix a while back asking for the same thing after they were done with the Io raid soundtrack I wonder if you're up for a task like this and both versions of the fight forever soundtrack is amazing I wish that you could continue with the fan raid soundtracks in fact you can use this idea of mine to further enhance your experience with making soundtracks like that
Breshi I know that you're reading this like I love what you have done I think that you got my idea right in the bag like I would love to see what comes out if you actually want to do my idea but you do you it's your choice I don't mind
majestic, majestic! :p
Oh sweet another banger
Another banger
Holy hell 🔥
Wonderful!
Tbh i find better this than the actual witness boss theme
The first 30 seconds of this music sounds like oneirophobia
Bungie ripping this song right now to replace The Witness's boss music before launch.
Nah, what the team wrote for that will be a million times better than anything I can write.
@@Breshi123 I don't know man. That's literally what I imagined his boss music sounding like. I think they have there work cut out for them. For those who have hear this song, the actual boss music might be a let down.
Big like
Plot twist the witness is good and the traveler is evil
the collectors edition fs proved otherwise
F***ing LIT 🔥😎
if they haven't given you a job offer yet they should
i call this lansing
This would have been a better story fight theme, but the raid boss theme we’ve got rn is fantastic
The only thing that upsets me is that they wont be able to use this in TFS.
Trust me, everything in Final Shape's soundtrack will be truly amazing!