New AoE2 DLC civilizations that we might see? ( 25th Anniversary 2025) | Age of Empires 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- I've been watching the age of empires forums recently and I've noticed that there are rumors of a DLC for the 25th anniversary. There is no doubt that sooner or later there will be a patch or an update and there is a great possibility for the addition of new civilizations. With that in mind, today we are going to take a look at which civs are most anticipated by the players and how possible is that we are going to see them in game.
What are you thoughts on them?
American civs are really under represented right now, however I would go with the Purepecha and the Chimu. Really agree with the renaming of the Slavs to Rus. If it was up to me, I'd also split the Celts to Welsh, Irish and Scots... But then again Vikings and Italians could also be split to additional civs...
Vikings the most in terms of other sub factions of Norway with their own unique units and buildings.
@@HawkknightXC88 well, since AoE2's timeframe goes well beyond 1066 they could easily include Danes, Norwegians and Swedes
But the Slavs are not only the Rus. Also the Celts not only the Welsh, Irish and Scots. So that will not happen lol.
i think Malay also need to be renamed to Javanese or Majapahit since Majapahit kingdom isn't Malay but Javanese
I do think the new DLC is going to be in the East Asia region. It’s long overdue for a DLC of its own, with campaigns for the Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans. I do see the Khitans, Jurchens, and Tibetans being added as new civs. For all the ones you covered I think the Slavs could be split into so many civs. A Balkan DLC with the Wallachians, Croats, and Serbs would be great; alongside a Russian one with the Rus, Novgorodians, and Muscovites is doable.
I would like to see Chimú civ for South America
Who are the Chimus or the Chimu civilization?
@@HawkknightXC88They started the chimu empire
@@HawkknightXC88 The Chimu civilization/Chimor were from the northern coast of Peru and were the the biggest rival of the Incas. They originated with the Moche culture and existed much longer than the Incas.
@@Jaomco even in the campain of the incas, there are a fight against the Chimu Empire, so it could be a perfect add to the game.
north-american civi should be cool on aoe2
A Mississippian/Cahokia civ would kick ass. They could be a sort of horseless Teutons-like civ: good infantry, good defenses, good monks.
The "Chinese split" is people getting the wrong end of the stick. It's not about changing the Chinese, it's about adding other civs around them that currently use the Chinese during campaigns, because there's nobody else.
It's also mixed up by people not understanding that AoE2 civs are based on cultures/ethnic groups, not actual empires. So some people suggest to split them into the "Tang, Song, Ming" etc, which is not how the game works.
You will get the semi-nomadic Jurchens civ instead.
Creation of new tungus civs like merkits, kara-kitai and jurchens are better than that.
Well well if the political were not to be considered, the Burgundians would never have been split from the franks ; and we could argue the same for the Sicilians/normands as basically, the Normandy duchy and its multiple warmongers were an emanation of the Frankish kingdoms (hence the crusaders having no issues to gather all together, may they be people of the HRE or from the French kingdom)
The regions that I most want to see (in no particular order)
1. East Asian DLC featuring Jurchens, Tanguts, Bo/Baipu (representing the Nanzhao/Dali kingdoms), and Khitans
2. A minor SE Asian DLC featuring Chams, Mons, and Siamese/Tais
3. New African DLC featuring Soninke, Kanem-Bornu, Somalis, etc.
4. American DLC featuring Chimus, Mixtecs, and Purepechas
Siamese! Since Burmese and Khmer is playable then why not include Siamese?
no enough history fo siamese
Ayutthaya and lan xang too!!
All of these are really good choices for Age of Empires 2 Civilizations. Been wanting to play as the Wallachians the reworks of the chinese and rus for a long while now.
I have a feeling it’s gonna be an Asian DLC
Spirit of the Law predicted that this would be a China-centered DLC. I recommend watching his video on this.
@@Dr.-Dank watched it already 11
@@Dr.-Dank before he predicted a African DLC because of the code name PRTO, and it turned out to be India DLC
@@zamlent2492 this is true, but this time his prediction drew a lot from other speculations by the Age community. I can't remember if that was the case with DoI, but Spirit isn't alone in thinking this DLC will be centered on the Chinese. At the very least, it is notable that in the Genghis Khan campaign text files they changed the term "Chinese" to the "settled people." Why change such a specific detail from a 25 year old campaign?
We really need more MesoCivs or north american civs
As a history teacher, I’d like to see the Zulu, the Lakota,or the Cherokee so long as they were historically accurate (latter two no horses, cuz that was post 1492)
I mean, the game is supposed to cover the 500 AD till the 1600, no? By 1600 I'm pretty sure there were some groups that had gotten horses from the Spanish. I've been thinking that it would be a fun unique tech for an American civ to start off the game without access to horses, but then get them in Castle or Imperial age - maybe for the Apache, since they were the first tribe to steal and ride horses from the Spanish.
history teachers dont know much about history, they are just taking the job as a bussiness
@@Dr.-Dank You normaly would have knights in Castle Age and in Feudal just the Scout so having cavs just in Castle age would not be unique at all. Also idk which civ gets this secret bonus but if you convert an enemy stable or spawn with a stable you can train knights that look like mounted jaguar warriors but i know you can not upgrade it or maybe it can get meele upgrades but i don't think armor
Frankly instead of digging on more civilizations with very slight nuances in bonus and unique units as the only distinct trait, they could put effort in doing regional skins for units just as buildings are. I am used to but still find uneasy to play African or American civilizations with European skins
I don't think regional skin for each civs is a good idea. In AOE 3 each colony has their own unique unit and skin represented their culture but this also lead to a confusion for differentiate the unit role.
I would split Slavs as it doesn't make sense to have - Poland, Bohemia, Bulgaria, and then Slavs like these three nations are also Slavs. Renaming Slavs to Kievan Rus and adding one or two more Slavic nations. Saying Croatia and Serbia are not viable because they were never an empire and then immediately putting Wallachians is silly.
Well there already is a Wallachian campaign so you can't remove it so might as well add the civ
@@dragosd8992 my argument wasn't against Wallachia, I would love to have them as a civ. I was saying that his logic is not valid, as in the same chapter he says that Croatia and Serbia are not viable as they weren't empires and then he puts forward Wallachia, who also wasn't an Empire. And similar to Croatia and Serbia it was both under Hungarians and Ottomans.
Polynesian civs plz 🙏🗣️🔥
Legit.
Not enough people are talking about Polynesian civs! its a massive area with cool history, civilizations and cultures!
@@weepingbones_2 we could get water buildings, unique boats, etc.
It would be a great way to bring some improvement to water, many orioles least favorite mechanic
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The Serbs did have an empire, although it was very short lived.
Malay can also be split:
-malay represent mallacca sutanate
-sumatran represent srivijaya empire
-java represent majapahit empire
-philipinian
-bornean
-balinese
-molluccas
-celebes
Best split idea
@@ahmicqui9396 In game architecture is clearly Majapahit and Majapahit kingdom is Javanese not Malay (they speak malay though)
@@bristleback3614 yes
Italian split with Genoese, Venetians, Swiss and Papal States would he very cool. Maybe a HRE split with Teutons, Austrians, Bavarians and Saxons. And maybe even a Spanish split with Aragonese and Castillans.
DLC ideas are almost endless.
The Hansa as a naval+strong economy nation could be a good option for a HRE nation.
Spanish could split into Aragonese, Castillians and Basques. Remember that Pamplona and Navarra were important kingdoms of basque culture
Lets make every city in europe as a civ! I want to play with Vidin kingdom! ... no wonder aoe2 is becoming the joke in the age franchise
bro Europe has like 90 civilizations in every single corner of the continent, stretching in time from the romans (0 AC) to the byzantine to the italians (1860 AC) and everything in between including many niche states. You cant say 4 civilizations have covered all the entire of African civilization across nearly 2000 years of history , the berbers (amazigh people) were mostly nomadic and never made any formal long lasting settlements anyway. If Europe can recieve such a specific attention to detail for kingdoms and states i dont think its fair to say "1 north 1 south 1 east 1 west" yup we've got civs for all of 30,365,000 square km of Africa, plus considering most aoe2 civs can have pretty questionable history with certain civs going into imp or existing in dark age. I think we can be just as lenient with possible African civilizations. Awesome video though
plus saracens its just an old word muslims so im not sure they exactly just cover Egypt. We could maybe get the mamluk sultanate and have saracens become some caliphates or something idk. We could also have ghana aswell as mali. maybe even carthage although im really pushing it
It's not the game's fault that Europe was so divided or that its history is better documented. But yes, Malians and Ethiopians cover too much
@@Heimdal8212 yeah i get that, thats definently true. they should totally split chinese or saracens i think
No one cares about Africa.
@@lowqualityadventures9296 I could also see Songhai added to the West African civs, or Great Benin. But a Congolese and/or Great Zimbabwe just makes sense. Someone in the comments pointed out that the time period of the game would allow for the Zulus to be added, which would also be cool.
Tagalog, Bisaya, Javanese civs
The Philippines and Indonesia currently have about the same combined population as America. Stop ostracising us, World's Edge!
dude malay represents indonesia in the game, the malay campaigns are about majapahit, gajah mads snd hayam uruk (i dont know spelled corrcetsly sorry) tht they were all about indonesia
I've gotta say, the idea that Western and Eastern Africa are fine being represented by only one civ each is pretty rich. By that logic, we should have maybe four European civs total.
Nubian, Swahili, Somali, and Nigerian civs could be fantastic additions to the game, as would more American civs. We've got plenty from Eurasia already.
I will love to see more american civs and campaigns because we only have like two of them
Africa? What way to make the DLC not sell. Why would I want to play as jungle primitives? Only worthy empires were the Malians and the Ethiopians.
considering there are only 3 each from the Americas and Africa. i would like the civs from these 2 continents. your picks are perfect. splitting chinese is obvious thing but its a tricky coz of their govt
We aren't getting Russo civ anytime soon.Becaz of the war
New Civilization is north american natives. 😁 or Switzerland
I do agree that the Chinese like the Indians should be split, I would also like a rework with the Franks making them a Knight & Gunpowder Faction. Replace the Cavalier and Paladin with something like the Chevalier.
I would love to see more American civs added. As for civ ideas, I'd throw out there:
a Pueblo/Anasazi civ - make them a boomy civ with a good farm bonus,
the Apache's - that could be a fun campaign fighting the Spanish, could have them be horseless like the Meso-civs but gain access to horses with a unique tech to reflect that they were the first American people to steal horses from the Spanish,
the Navajo - could make a fun campaign, reflecting their migration from the Artic circle to the Mojave desert,
the Natchez - more sea/water borne people, give them a good fishing bonus like getting gold from fish,
the Cherokee - one of the more famous Native American tribes, might not quite fit into the historical period of the game, but it'd be criminal not to include them,
and finally, I'd suggest the Comanche, the horse lords of the Great Plains, the first Native American tribe (at least in North America) to breed horses rather than just steal them from the Spanish, a people who picked up horse archery like it was nothing and ruled the American interior until the 1870s (again, maybe not the most historically relevant to the game, but could be a lot of fun).
Mapuches!
I can go with the Mapuches.
Impossible, they fit into AoE3 timeline much better.
Not true, their timeframe fits perfect in late middle ages. They fought Incas (which are in Aoe2 btw) and Spanish even before some scenarios in Aoe2 like Lepanto, Kyoto or Drake @@ahmicqui9396
@@diegoramirez7901 But their strength came from how loose and unadvanved their were. They wouldn't even have town centers in the middle ages.
@@ahmicqui9396 they were quite succesfull adopting invaders tactics, guns and horses. Under that argument, Huns, early Turks and Mongols and even Cumans shouldnt have Town Centers neither because of their nomadic lifestyle. The game needs a basic line of comparisson between Civs, and those balance adjustmens doesnt need to follow strict historical rules.
I think it would be unnecessary to change the name of the Sicilians. As far as I know, there had been no independent kingdoms in southern Italy before the arrival of the Normans.
I'm surprised that nobody talks about Aragon and Basques. Spanish civilization could be splitted in the same way as India, into Castillians, Catalans and Basques, since they had a lot of participation in the Reconquista and many other conflicts
Aragon conquered Sardinia, Sicily and parts of Greece, and their Almogavars were valious mercenaries hired by many european kingdoms. Basques were a strong force in the Pyrinees that even defeated Charlemagne, and the kingdoms of Pamplona and Navarra supported a lot in the initial stages of the Reconquista
I wish would be New remade Chinese dynasties Civs: Han Chinese漢人, Khitan契丹人, Jurchen女真人, Tangut党項人, and Tibetan土蕃人
The Han Chinese focous on foot archer and Infantry, Jurchen and Tangut focus on Cavalry
I'd like to see the Swiss, Dutch and Serbs. Iroquese is also a good one I haven't thought of and maybe Simbabwe. Chinese would best be split into their dynasties but that would also be weird. Xinq going against Han e.g.
It would very cool to rename slavs to Kyivan Rus, and maybe make separate muscovy to show the difference. Boyar is a muscovy thing, so another unique unit needed for Kyivan Rus - could be some heavy cavalry named something like "Bohatyr' or a cossac, a conquistaror like unit.
I rather would like to have a new mechanic or tech, like feudal techs for all civ or an option for specialization in castle/imp techs...
I think Malay must be split into 1. malay (new as in sumatra and west malaysia), 2. javanese, 3. Bornean (banjarian and the dayak), 4. Moluccan, 5. Celebes
Inca must be split into many civs:
Wari, quechua (central andes)
Muchik, chimor (north coast)
Tiahuanaco, aimara (highplain)
Chincha, nazca (south coast)
Chachapoyas (amazonian mountains)
Add many more but those represent very well cultural divitions and identity of the time and even today
I think the Iroquois and Sioux would be a great adition. Even the Navaho or Innuit.
The Sioux could be uniquely cool as a Native American civ that functions similarly to a Central Asian Civ. I could imagine them having light cavalry musketeers. And having hunters generate gold.
For American Civs I think the Tlaxcaltecas they fight Aztec empire and were part of the Cortes Army, I think more reworks could works for civs like Celts(Hoang almost carry the win rate ) or Burmese .
We need the Welsh, Bretons and the Catalans
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What about Scotland?
The Celts need to be broken down into proper Scottish, Bretons, Welsh and Irish
We need Chinese split, more africano kingdoms and some polinesyan editor units or maybe some new american civ
7:09 Oh yea, Harare capital of Iroquois kingdom. Mugabe most prominent Iroquois leader. Impossible to forget how Iroquois fought Rhodesians.
Split Vikings into Norwegians, Swedes & Danes
Split Italians into Florentines, Venitians & Milanese or Genoans
I would like to see the african civs with another skin colour. It just feels wrong playing them when all the units have white skin.
East Asia DLC
Khitans, Uyghurs, Tibetians
East Europe DLC
Kievan Rus, Muscovites
Balkan DLC
Serbs, Wallacians
America DLC
Sioux, Iroquois
Africa DLC
Swahili, Congolese
Bonus
Maori
I wouldn't mind civs like Zapotects and Gaels to be added.
Very interesting Video - Thanks! - this is stuff for at least three DLCs :) i hope it comes :)
We should get more civs for Return of Rome: Gauls, germans, huns, goths, iceni, lusitani, roxolani, getae, etc
Where are the Swiss with the Elite Halberdier and Elite Crossbows (without any cav) and high defensive stats?
Those are on Aoe3
Switzerland in the Middle Ages was nothing more than a subnational entity under the sovereignty of the HRE
They should just remake the AOE star wars game or make a warhammer one.
1. We need "Khazars" or in turkic "Hazars" they have a potencial chance to come to AOE II they have a huge history and they fight the most times against the arabs or Sarazens and make alliance with the byzantines against the arabs. The Khazars was a jewes turkic civilisation.
2. I like the Serbian history and I think that was also a huge potencial AOE II civilisation the Serbs is also a Slavic civilisation with strong Cavalary they also have fights with Ottomans, Hungarian and other civilisation in the history. King Dusan was the great Serbian King in the 14 Century. But finaly its a Slavic civilisation that was keep in generall as a Slavs.
3. I think one of the most problems in AOE II is that so many civilisations they was keep in generall for example Slavic (Russian, Ukrain, Serbs, Wallachian (Vlad Dracul is the game as a Slavic in AOEII) also the Turks combined as the Ottoman and Seljuks and sooooooo many other civilisation keep in generall if we split them in there own civilisation I dont know there is no special for me, for example if the Serbians or Wallachians came to AOE II they have the same tecnology tree as the Slavic but just a little bit better modified as the Slavic and for example look for Georgians there Slavic but better modifided as the Slavic civilisation is this much potencial we need for this game I dont know we all have a different opinion about this.:)
Where do you get these new unit skins? - Sicilians Knight, Leitis with an axe?
mods page in AOE2, reskins
Where's that axe-wielding lithuanian knight?
Would be cool if all units with a shield had the civ emblem. Just noticed that at 0:30
we need an italian rework
Agreed. Split them into Venetians, Genoese, and Milanese. Maybe have some Papal regional units for them all to use.
@@smaoproductsOr Genoese, Venetians, Papacy and Swiss. I thinl a DLC with these 4 would be incredible
@@zxylo786Not bad at all. The Genoese can keep the Genoese Crossbowmen or just rename them into Pavisiers and also keep the condottieri. Venetians definitely need to have the galleass and the carroccio standard. If the Milanese were added Famiglia Ducale (heavy cavalry) would be the appropriate UU. Papacy would obviously have the Papal Lancers from AoE3 and the Swiss can have the reislaufer (Swiss pikemen).
Purepechaaaa
Thank you for this video
Australia Aboriginal warriors
There is not oceanic civs?
Kurds and Afghans
We need American like sioux, venitian and Caledonian. Three very interesting civilization. Two navy civilization and can introduce walking foundation on water. We can build on them, walk, and attack it. It's as weak as a palisade, long to build and you can't attack the foundation of there is a building on it
4:00 naw
They will find a way to please balkans. But they enjoyed being under byzantines, bulgars, magyars and being the best janissaries
They should rename slavs to rus. They clearly represent kiev rus with that farming bonus
Next civilization I want to see the most in dlc page:
1. Western Europe
Anglo-saxons.wales.Scotland. Holy Roman Empire. Austria. kingdoms of norway.papal states.switzerland
2.Eastern Europe & balkan
Poland-Lithuania.kievan rus.wallachians.hungary empire.serbian
3. African
Songhai.Zulu Kingdom.congo
4. Middle East Asia
Egypt. Kingdom of Jerusalem.khazars.Timurid
5. East Asia
Manchu (Qing Dynasty).ainu.Tibet.Nepal
6. South east Asia
Ayutthaya. Siamese. Dvaravati(Mons). Tai. Lanna. Lan xang(Laotian). Khom. javanese.Brunei. Tondo
7. Pacific Sea
Polynesian.hawaii.Maori.
8. New World (America)
olmec.mapuche.cahokia.ironquis.chimus.lakota
This is all the civilization I want in aoe2
The Swiss
No new civs please. We have enough.
New Civs are okay, but some areas get too much of a focus like Europe. One civilization they should include should be the Tibetans, as they were planned since the original AOE2
Serbia was empire for 25 years.... haha but I would love to see us as playable civ.
calling yourself empire after conquering 2 cities? that empire was never bigger than duchy of brittany or burgundy, witch are called duchy.
@@ivaninkret2784 we don't called, historians called, next it's not my problem if you are b*hurted for some reasons. Probably some serb take girlfriend from you? Don't be angry just drink tea and everything will be fine.
@@ivaninkret2784 it was empire be historians, Serbia have biggest gold and silver mines in this area, german miners came here because of mines, google Novo Brdo, at time most populated town in Europe in one point, even Venetian's came in city because of trade and goods. Serbia is first country here to have gunpowder factories. Do you need something more? Yes Empire not last long because of early death of Dušan and divine between Serbian nobility... Empire conquered almost all Greece and some Bulgarians became our vassal's.
@@aleksandarjankovic39 " it was empire be historians" english? having mines dont make you empire, ruing over several minorites does. self proclaming empire aftre capturing one greek and one blugarian town compared to some other european lords (land size and ethnic diversitiy) is size of an duchy but in name of empire. gunpowder factories is stragiht up made up lie. and if all of grece is macedonia and few emptiy southern lands till that one bigger town is whole grecce... franks were called kingdome and they ruled over 20 differend etnicities and lands much bigger, more populated and richer in all reusoces. yet they didnt self proclaimed as empire after one succes. kingdom of england was never empire, yet london greater area had more population than whole serbian empire at all times trought history. "be historians"
@@ivaninkret2784 by historians*
I still think your opinion have no weight at all. You are just bitter internet anonymous.
I REALLY want to see a Chinese expansion and DLC. Like the Japanese, they are an original but the Japanese have been getting so many campaigns and historical battles while the Chinese don't even have their own campaign. What the heck.... As an American born Chinese, I grew up learning about so many of the dynasties from Chinese history. Having Qin Dynasty, Han, Song, Tangut/Jin and or Ming dynasty campaigns would be spectacular. And each dynasty was so unique.
I think a cool unit for Wallachians would be a infantry units which stuns enemies, call it "Clubman" or something like that. Also, Serbia did have an Empire, but it didn't last very long.
Well maybe a serbian civ.... because (i will argue with you) we need civs not empires necessarily
Swiss would be great. Also maybe crusaders based on Kingdom of Jerusalem.
Serbia was empire from 1346 till 1371
i dont believe a new dlc is coming
would be nice dough
Well in my opinion slavs and Vikings are the right choices for splitting into many civs. Vikings = danes, norvegians, swedes and Slavs= rus, moravians, wallachians. I wouldn’t mind adding new American and African civs. I’d like to see tlaxcalans as the only American civ with gunpowder unit or Zimbabwe with elephant unique unit able to switch between the modes (mele/range).
Wallachians are not slavs.
@@stefanosmavropoulos2034 neither poles were goths or Slavs in Barbarossa campaign before dawn of the dukes dlc. Similar thing is with wallachians which are portrayed by Slavs in Dracula campaign.
@quaintserpent Goths were not split to poles and something else. Poles were an additional civ to the game. Poles may had been represented by other civs before due to lack of Poles as a civ. Buy I dont see why Slavs can be split yo Wallachians since Wallachians are not Slavs.
I want to see all the Indians civs merged back into one civ just to see the jeet rage.
Cringe comment... but at least the pfp checks out
Please we need Afghans
you have it in generals just pick GLA.
@aleksandarjankovic39 no I need It in Ao2
@@knowledge_lantern krakenmesiter site and make for your own. There is some Affgan uniqe unit if I'm not wrong.
Afghan/Pakistan in medieval time is already represented by the Hindustanis. Basically Indian + muslim + gunpowder
timurids is mstly afghan, and hindustani is also sightly afghan
These civs are barely different it's all the same shit