Exercise Scientist Critiques Patrick Mahomes' NFL Workout
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0:00 Mike v Patrick
2:17 Med Ball Throws
4:14 Track Work
10:13 Strength Coach Role
12:05 Still no weights
12:42 Finally, weights
16:48 Mike's Feedback - กีฬา
Bro, you get real good at football, you get famous, Diddy invites you to the party, isometric glute contractions become of paramount importance
Who knew that the origins of the hip abductor-adduction machines were as prehab for Diddy's parties
Tighten and twist! Tighten and twist! 😂😂😂
Now that’s a Tight End
I would stay away from his parties……
Partying with a diddler in the endzone is bad for your health.
I thought this channel was about hypertrophy, but now I realize it’s about slowly crushing Dr.Mike’s soul with celebrity training videos.
The mixture is what creates the magic 😂
We all know Mike is into crushing....
This channel is just him extending him app lol
My soul is also crushed as a sport science undergrad.
@@gareth4009 haha I feel you! I did a sports medicine undergrad. You got it man!
These transitions into your ad for the app are legendary.
That one was flawless, “he needs…”
I’ve been saying this every reaction vid for the past couple months lmao editor is a sav
editor definitely watches invincible lol
It’s not even an app. It’s a website 😄
Hey Dr. Mike, can you do a video on the differences between sports training and training for hypertrophy, and what are the most effective ways to train and progress in a sport
That's the vid I've been waiting for since watching this channel
There is a lecture by dr james hoffman in the advanced hypertrophy concepts and tools Playlist on this channell
He has. You train weights to get stronger. You train your sport to get better at sport.
If you're doing jiu jitsu and are tired of your pencil neck, do some neck work. If you're a defensive lineman and need more oomph off the line, load the explosion off the line. Make the muscles involved in that stronger.
YOU need to identify what it is you're trying to improve in your sport and find complimentary exercises to do so.
@@user-qq7ns4jy8lI love his work on varying brew temperatures to achieve maximum extraction to bitterness ratios.
Thats a great idea
Honestly, not only are these videos hilarious, but they’re also providing a bit of community service. You wouldn’t believe the amount of nonsense being taught to junior high and high school athletes. So much time and effort is wasted on this stuff instead of just focusing on the basics-getting bigger, faster, and stronger. Keeping these videos around is important. The more people, especially younger athletes, who see them, the better.
The basics always work.
Just feels like a QB isn't the position that needs all this or that. The QB battle is won at birth, being a generic freak but also willing to put in the work playing the sport.
i wonder to what part these suboptimised junior high and high-school actually help bring out the genetically gifted athletes, who with any amount of random bs can excel at the sport and don't really need to optimise till they're thrown in with other elite athletes. Its kinda like how if you're a genetic freak, you don't really need to hop on juice for a while to be competitive. The ever pervasive question of genetics vs hard work
@@aljazslemc9569i think it's also fair to ask if genetically gifted athletes have quit sports because the training was inefficient or just plain bad and they got bored or frustrated from the lack of meaningful progress.
i would also ask, if an athlete is gifted and his teamates and opponent are not, wouldn't it be harder to determine just how good he was because the bar is so low, there is nothing to challenge him to become better, i think it's why college QBs don't often do well in the NFL, suboptimal training and lack of consistent challenging opponents and teamates
100%. This crap training can work for freak athletes like Mahomes, but for those less blessed it’s terrible.
I remember my college team had a talented qb who was die hard Tom Brady fan and followed his methods exactly. While he was a good player, he was just too weak to stay healthy or play next level. Dude needed old school weight training badly, band training and eating at a caloric deficit was the worst thing for him.
Would be interesting to see you review Amon Ra St. Brown’s training since his dad is a former bodybuilder
That would be a good one!
Hell yeah, he should be bring in the Sun God for a training session
Idk who that is but that’s a dope name
Amon Ra St Brown is the most NFL name I've ever seen
He should review the eagles skill positions training cuz they all squat over 500lbs
Would love a video about kneesovertoesguy and his training methods
I second this!
He’s referenced him before, I’m p sure he likes his stuff
@@jax1529 yeah but it doesnt have to be a diss, just kind of another perspective. i like his stuff too but i think he is a little like mike in that he is a little bit too dogmatic so it would be interesting
Fourth
He has more than once, and even did a full debate with him.
ill always remember your quote: "most professional athletes succeed not because of their training but in spite of it"
Exactly! I saw a guy that has trained hundreds on nfl guys said its mostly genetics. Said if working out didn't exist, the nfl would be made of 90% of thr same guys already in it
@@user-uy3tm9ee5l ehh not to that extent but its more a comment on how pro athlets are just bad at strength training because they just want to play their sport and not risk effort or injury
@@microsoftpowerpoint4731 athletes are the worst to train! they really dont like strenght training, its half the workout trying to get them to execute an exercise properly most of the time they sandbag or even lie lol. they do it bc its part of their job mostly, they just wanna play. really good at showing up tho, they dont skip it, but rarely put in the effort.
I love watching Dr. Mike getting scientifically pissed off! 😂
Ad break cut actually made me laugh out loud.
same 😂
based on recent pics of Mahomes, I didn't even know he HAD a workout
Edit: hey guys, just like Dr. Mike has to reiterate, my comment was a joke. I'm aware that Mahomes is still in better shape than 90% of the male population.
Exactly!
Quarterbacks can't really put on muscle. Messes up their throwing. It's why you don't see any real bodybuilder types as pitchers. You might see fat guys, but they're just naturally good at throwing.
Brady Quinn got jacked. Really didn't help his football.
Ruthless
But 100% fair 😂
Yea look at Montana and Brady. Goff is built like a golfer. Just got the rotational zip
He's not training for looks. He's training for performance.
That was painful, anyone who has taken a 100 level sport physiology class would know better. Best critique yet, crazy how many professionals have trainers who are full of shit.
My theory is that these vids are all BS. They intentionally put out useless shit so they cab gatekeep what actually works. No way all these rich athletes have ass clowns for trainers.
the exercises are ok, the choice and explanations are baffling tho.
Some of the exercises aren’t bad the reasoning and choices for some of them are baffling though
I think to some degree you need to understand the position the player plays. A lot of what I’m hearing assume every player should train identically
The segway to the RP Hypertrophy app at 3:25 was perfect lol. Good job Dr. Mike
he doesn't do it, it's the editor
reminds me of Invincible title card lol
One of the best ever
I've disabled sponsorblock for RP just for the lulz.
Grammar police here, sorry to interrupt: it is called segue. Segway is a brand of two-wheeled personal transporter device.
You may get away with a warning this time.
*pauses video* “Bobby Stroupe, Okay”. Not sure why Mike’s delivery is so funny to me man
He somehow roasted him just by saying his name it was hilarious
Mike is a lulzy gentleman
Read this right as it was being played m, hahaha 🤣
That little hurdle exercise explains why he runs so weird lol
Olympic sprinters use those types of mini hurdles drills and they run well lol
Please do a video with more details about training for pro-athletes and D1 players, in season and off season type training. Will help so many people to reach they full potencial 🙏
dude he has hundreds of videos explaining exactly how to train, eat and recover
Sled drags activate the quads a lot more than the posterior chain...
Yeah, when you think about it it doesn't matter that you're moving backwards, you're still running and that means extending your knees. The posterior chain works mostly isometrically but maybe that's why Bobby chose it because he seems to like training for an explosive sport by staying still.
These RP app segues are getting better and better lmao **changed for the grammar queens in the comments**
Facts
*Segues…(runs behind sofa to hide from insistence that no one cares about proper grammar and spelling, bruh).
@@t.conner9304 I care, bro. I care. Thank you.
RP sells segways?
@@t.conner9304sounds like a French word - won’t be using that shit
Dude as a college S&C coach thank you, and I love you.
I was not ready for the black joke 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like I’m never ready for some of Dr. Mikes jokes haha
Was watching one of your videos on the TV and my brother walks in and says, "stop watching this dude, he's a horrible person." I was so confused until I realized he thought you were Dana White. Couldn't stop laughing for 2 minutes straight lol...
Gotta ask, what does your brother have against Dana White?
It means his brother is super woke. No hate. That’s just what it means.
@@muscledoggs566 His brother has a functioning brain, just poor facial recognition.
Dana White is a slug who actively cratered the earnings of UFC fighters.
Mike, you’re going to love this - “Applied Functional Science” is a trade marked term that “focuses on how the body actually moves, rather than how professionals think the body should move in theory”. And you dare to call that ‘bullshit’?? 😂😂😂
Soooo CrossFit? 🤣
In other words, it's a built-in way to say, "Dr. Mike is a professional telling us how an athlete should move. He'll never understand what we're doing. He's such an idiot for thinking these things Patrick is doing aren't perfect for him. The dumbass is proving our point for us!"
God damn it, ffs, I hate that variety of thinking. It's a flat earth version of working out. "We see how people really move. The pros won't tell you the arcane secrets that only we can."
soo their bodies have extra movements we don't know about? Do their biceps do a twisting motion too? Do their hamstrings do leg flexion and leg extension?
Haha that’s amazing there is a definition!
Wow
I love all of the hypertrophy stuff, to be sure. However, I absolutely enjoy all of the sports science and strength and conditioning stuff. Please continue evaluating professional athletes training. I learn so much every time.
I guess this explains how he still has the body of a Simpson’s character
Football players are real athletes and don't train solely for looks. Although many linebackers and running backs are pretty jacked they train for performance not looks.
@@twinrivers6200 Outside of kickers and QBs, most football players do look visually jacked. Even O-line guys look like strongman/powerlifters.
@@twinrivers6200 uhhh. Bodybuilding is a “real sport” .. and is judged by looks. And the contestants are “athletes”. Just saying. You’re throwing that sport under the bus for no reason.
I'd like to see more of this, you should do a small series on how to build power, speed, and general athleticism like you did for your strength and hypertrophy series, or at the very least a video encapsulating those specific training areas. As always love content.
what a smooth transition to the app; love it!
Absolutely fantastic breakdown Mike, enjoyed how you broke down a more nuanced view of sports training and simplified it perfectly.
Found this channel last night and ended up binging some videos. Me and the wife tried one of the glute workouts and talk about a difference. We were lifting half of our normal weight, but were hurting (in a good way) so much more.
It's sad to see this. The fact that there's both coaches and young athletes who are going to replicate these exercises and whatnot thinking they'll get an edge and become an NFL star is bad news bears. People do this kinda stuff all the time where they see someone who has what they want, they ask what to use, what to do, and then go do all the stuff. They then get no results and think it's just because they suck, when it's just moreso that these coaches are incompetent and merely got lucky that one of their pupils is a genetic freak and became an NFL star.
You ever think that maybe, just maybe other coaches know stuff too and that what they are putting their athletes through works?
@@kylehackett162 Given what we just watched, I'm pretty sure that the coach mahomes has isn't the reason why he's doing well. So no, I don't think what that coach does is working.
@@kylehackett162 This guy isn't a chiefs coach. He is an off season trainer not involved with the Chiefs organization.
@@mybootscamewithoutstrapsYeah you and the moron commenting on thsi video dont even realize this isnat a chiefs coach lmao
@@allbrosdjay ur point is? this is the publicity piece, "train like mahomes" or whatever. its what people will see. and anyway off-season is the point where they should be doing their best work in the gym, bc they dont have the wear and tear of games and team practice. do you know how many people i saw dribbling with a plastic bag on the basketball thinking they were going to have handles like kyrie irving after he said it? ppl should do better when communicating about fitness we would have less bullshit being sold as game changers.
That transition to the App ad was so clean I watched it just to pay respect.
This was great! More videos about training for actual sports would be awesome. Thanks for the great content
Keep up the great work your videos are the best.
"Transformational zones" 😂
Great video! Reviewing Devon Larratts armwrestling training would be an interesting video.
Yes, agreed! Pretty much exclusively forearm and bicep work though I believe but would love Mikes opinion
You are a marketing genius, i never feel like your promotions are something i need to skip because they are interrupting the content i love but actually key to the content and entertainment i came for. Dope!
Seeing you get annoyed with this just shows how much passion you have. Dr. Mike your videos have helped me a lot over the last few weeks and answered some of my questions and things im uncertain about. Im a new viewer and already learned so much from your videos and i thank you for that. Absolutely love the dirty humor.
damn this must be the most scathing review yet lol
There's a video of Amona Ra St Brown and his brother training with their father. I feel like you'll love that video. I played football and all they preached to us was “bigger, faster, stronger”. I'm on board with what you're teaching.
What I’ve found is elite athletes are elite athletes not bc of their training like this but in spite of this.
Elite athletes were built to be athletes and put tons of hours into their craft.
Yeah when you do something that can improve your already better than 99.999% of the world genetics for a sport by even 0.0001%, for thousands of hours, you will probably get far.
@@ImKongGenetics is a massively over exaggerated contributor to elite sports performanceml. Genetics definitely helps, but especially in precision sports and field sports the training spent on the sports skills itself is what determines ability.
You don't here stories of MJ, Lebron, Shaq, etc. spending hours and hours a day in the gym to get better. They practiced their sport and developed their skills. Strength and Speed just become the icing on the cake.
@@mitchellcotton7346 coordination is in part determined by genetics
Great S&C coaches don't participate in these sorts of promotional videos. Only charlatans trying to sell something like this guy do. It's more likely that Mahomes trains with this guy a couple of times a year when he's back in Texas as a favour to a guy he met as a kid and for the last decade he has been doing his real S&C work with the Chiefs and Texas Tech coaches.
The hip thrusts are for the locker room.
After watching so many professional athletes and celebs (or their trainers) do this sort of "here's my workout" publicity piece, I'm still astounded how many charlatans are out there. Patrick Mahomes deserves better
Seeing so many bad workouts of some of the greatest athletes on Earth, only proves to me it's 95% genetic. You see clips of young Lebron, Federer, Ronaldo, Messi etc. and you quickly realize "they were just born different". As long as they stay disciplined to stay in shape, they will be just fine even with the "shittiest" training routines.
@@FullRangeOfMotion7no, it's not genetic, it's skill. It just proves that these sports are not about physical strength like most people seem to believe, but about being very, very skilled at the sport itself.
@@davorzdralo8000basketball, yes, it's skill dominant. Soccer and hockey to a lesser extent, are skill dominant. Baseball has skill positions, but so long as your hand-eye coordination is good, you just need athletic ability to play the outfield. Football, even for the skill positions, is largely athletic ability.😊
Mahones running over mini-hurdles with his arms doing an airplane thing is the most ridiculous exercise I can recall. Bro is straight up frolicking, like he’s in a field of flowers
@@BGeezy4sheezy maybe he's training to be Naruto.
You get a like for sure for that smooth ad transition 😂
Love the content 👌
These bring me so much happiness.
Being a Scot, I’ve no idea who these NFL players are, but I know who Dr. Mike is. 😎
Cap.
Nothing more European than smugly expressing how little you know about American culture, as if Americans care.
Edit: before you call me a triggered American, I’m actually Canadian.
I think he is saying he is a Scot as in "Scot-the-video-guy"
And you don’t know Patrick MaHomes
@@yashnigam6 Clearly care enough to write this you soft boy
Hey, Dr. Mike! Can you do a series on how to use the search bar? I'd like to know something you've discussed in depth already.
Good one.
Dr. Mike on prep goes extra hard with these and i love it xD
You should do more videos about athletic training!
I'd love to see you comment on a rugby training. Those guys are deadly strong and don't play around.
Do one for Saquon Barkley
More videos on sport / strength training would be awesome!
Would love to see a video on strength and conditioning for Rugby!
The one thing I disagree with is the claim that coordination is genetic and not very trainable.
Sure people some people are naturally more coordinated than others, but it definitely can be improved
3:27 I love this bit 🤣
Your transitions into talking about the RP app are so flawless lol
Dr.Mike im requesting a video where you critique different boxers training methods please
Hey Dr mike! Could you do a video on equipped powerlifting? Like the science of it, the progression, technique differences?
Laughability of it?
What is equipped? Like belts, straps, sleeves?
@@kwerby3285
Depends on which division you're competing in. Knee wraps, squat suits, bench shirts, all things that give you more bounce out of the hole
@@matthias6824well, to quote doc mike “there is no right answers, only context”
Once people figured out the equipment was the thing lifting the extra weight, everyone went back to caring about raw lifts instead. I'm willing to bet that the stronger you get without all the equipment, the more you'll be able to lift when backed by neoprene and elastic.
3:22 buttery smooth, Scott
Good ol Scott the video guy
Would love more S&C content, maybe even for endurance athletes.
loved this vid!
Dr. Mike, i know you’ve said this in the past, but please make some videos/lectures on how to make athletes bigger, stronger, and more explosive. I am an athlete myself, and i would love to learn these things.
i'm confused didnt he explain that in the video, his critique
@somethingandahalf I'm just asking for like a lecture, like he does for Hypertrophy and Strength
"The spinal engine." Dude has to be trolling. The annoying thing is, this guy is probably earning double what we are and he doesn't know his ass from his elbow.
I'd be interested to see more performance based videos from RP.
What I love is I used to watch this shit as a sport science grad who was a sprinter for 10 yrs and be like wtf they on about it's nice to feel validated.
I love you Mike.
Mike, can you pretty please 🥺🙏do reacting to hockey workouts 🥺🥺
re: "foot mobility" ankle flexion is super important in football to resist tackles and especially for edge rushers to bend around tackles to hit the qb
Awesome and hilarious content mate; would love to see you critique someone in an odd sport or with odd principles such as strongman athletes such as Hooper, Thor and etc. Nonetheless Love ya mate
if only dr mike could grow hair like mahomes....
He would look like a virigin.
Scott the video guy doesn't get enough credit for how he edits these vids! Dr Mike and Scott the Video Guy are fantastic!
I think the editor is named Matt or something he mentioned him in a video once to put a meme in.
Hey Mike I’ve watched your bjj instructional.
What type of squatting do you prefer for those?
For example SS style squats / Oly squat etc?
Hey Dr. Mike by any chance could you make a video on the approach or strength program an athlete should follow
You should talk to Christian Mccaffrey trainer. I heard him on a podcast and he actually sounded like he knew what he was doing and uses smart training for probably one of the most athletic guys in the nfl, and definitely the most athletic white guy in the nfl
Fun fact: If an athlete’s had the same coach/trainer since elementary he’s propably not qualified for the job…
mike’s sense of humor was made for me. never clicked faster than when i saw this pop up in my sub box
Talking to you on the phone for 30 minutes about sport physiology and hypertrophy would be my dream
Now I want to see you critique the Travis Kelce/Taylor Swift workouts.
Top 10.
@renaissanceperiodization Dr. Mike We need a video on how to increase vertical jump!
I would love to see a video of Dr. Mike commenting on workouts of Jameis Winston :)
I'd love to see you do a video talking about a gymnast's workout. Like Simone Biles or something. That seems like it would be radically different than football or Hollywood workouts. Plus, gymnasts are usually pretty jacked.
It’s funny that these workouts could actually be making him worse, yet he’s still one of the best athletes on the planet. Imagine how much better he could be if he trained properly.
I like your videos Mike, but I’ve trained at this same facility. Bobby knows training football players very well, and his training has worked thus far. This workout was just getting his body ready and primed to play on Sunday.
Hi Dr. Mike, I was wondering if you had any tips for frequency. I am in college, recently took up working construction, and play volleyball. I was wondering how often I need to be training and how I can optimize recovery with this schedule plus lifting?
My goodness please find a way to send this critique to that trainer so he can learn.
I’m sure he might see this 😂
bet he already knows it but since its not fancy its not instagrammable etc etc.. its also how he gets laid, it definitely isnt by suggesting common sense on youtube videos
Mahomes is skinny fat and is not known for his physical prowess....so I'm note sure I would brag about training him since 4th grade. Seems he became a great QB in spite of you not because of you and your methods...
What do you know. You don't need to be jacked to be a good QB, clearly. Other coaches know stuff too.
@@kylehackett162 Thanks for pointing out the obvious, you old dope. Its pretty apparent you don't need to be jacked, or even physically in shape to be a good quarterback, I mean, did you not see Patrick in the entire video? He is far from being in shape, especially for a highly physical sport that is football.
That doesn't mean that being in better shape, being stronger, being faster, having more power, wouldnt make him that much better.
@@tiernanastronskas261lol you mad
Hey dr Mike what do you think about Peter Attia's emphasis on general balance training? I think we even suggests that in the minimal most effective 2-3 hour per week program balance should get 30 min or something like that? Please keep it 100% as a bald Dr to another should.
Please do Miles Garrett exercise review and Garage Strength !
Combat sports nerds are so strange haha
Yeah, how dare they have far more knowledge than the multi billion dollar sports of America with far less money invested in their training. It’s honestly strange how many American athletes have dogshit training.
@@kman9884 wow that’s some sick projection
Who actually cares what his workout is?He and his team won Superbowls and they are not body builders.They must be doing something right AND making big coin while doing it,lol🤷♀️.
That's a fallacy. Youre assuming he has achieved his full potential.
Mahomes is a great QB because of arm talent, knowledge of the game, speed and elusiveness, etc. He's otherworldly talented, and works his butt off on the practice field and the film room. Not because he's the biggest, strongest, or fastest guy on the field. Could he be better with better weight room work? Maybe. He definitely couldn't be worse. Along with that, no one else is Patrick Mahomes. If you or I or some random kid out there wants to play pro sports, they shouldn't assume thy are talented enough to get there with bad workouts. Instead, they should try to find the best possible workout plan for their goals, and execute it to the highest possible degree.
Dr. Mikes PhD is in exercise science. Literally the field of making athletes better athletes. Just because his personal endeavors as it pertains to the gym are physique related , doesn’t mean he is critiquing through the lense of a bodybuilder.
I love this 😂😂 the commentary is hilarious!!
Would you do a video on what you recommend for distance runners to do for strength?
4 views in 39 seconds you fell off
Dr. Mike, could you do a video on a Rugby training program?
Hey Dr. Mike, during my strength en conditioning courses we learned a lot about the Frans Bosch systems for strength and coordination, do you think this is any good?
That ad timing was perfect
I love these videos can you please do one for a combat sport athlete. Like Gordon maybe a wrestler or mma fighter. Love you Mike and wish you many more lambos.
This is the only channel I don't skip watching the ads
Dr Mike, can you do a video on training for baseball?
Dr. Mike, someone posted in the clips you made of this, that transformational zones and spinal engine are connected to a book called "the spinal engine".