To be honest the first half of the movie where Ryan Reynolds swings swords and talks too much is not entirely bad. You can sense the potential in him. It's just everyone remembers the abomination at the end.
Him slicing the bullet is probably my favorite part. I remember watching the early release bootleg wit the homie back in the day and you could see the wires during that scene 😂 most of the VFX were unfinished actually
@@Nether_Child19Green lantern isnt ass. Its just generic. Idk how they turned the most interesting superhero, with such a great villain gallery out there into... This... Thing...
@@blinkenschnaag777 Should have been the other way around. To say the least, Mr. Red Pepper Pants is the real idiot here and this segment is one of the most pathetic articles in movie history. The Police Academy movies were more entertaining than this piece of garbage "post-ending" and those movies in of themselves were lifeless abominations.
The worst part about the XMen Origins is that they introduce us to the perfect Wade Wilson to us, making the people who know Deadpool excited. All they had to do was give him a healing factor and face that even a mother would puke at to make him the perfect Deadpool, but they decided to make that Thing.
He did have superpowers just not the Wolverine healing type but a minor version of it , that's why he was in the team along with the other mutants & that's why he adapted so well to the Other mutant genes added over his. Thought that was pretty obvious when u watch the movie since sabertooth had donated his DNA to give Wade the healing factor a boost to survive the Adamantium process so the first power he got was sabertooth / wolverines healing.
Actually I thought it was good. Considering that lots of the powers Deadpool had in that movie likely got destroyed in the end by him being decapitated and the powers were not natural. So all that he would have had in the end was the healing factor. Might not have been true to source material, but was in my opinion a good introduction to how Deadpool became ugly. The backlash was likely ok, but I would have been interested in a second origins wolverine movie where maybe wade meets wolverine and tries to apologize but instead finds Logan who was shot in the head and doesn't remember. A movie with how Logan ends up at the bar in the first X-Men movie. Too late for this now though, especially with Disney owning it. The remake for wade cleaning up his timeline was ok but it leaves plot holes in the fan favorite wolverine storyline. Plot holes that once again will never be answered thanks to days of future past movie.
The “merc with a mouth” without a mouth would be like having Aquaman not be able to swim, Batman being afraid of the dark, or Spider-Man being afraid of heights
How hilarious would it have been, though, if they had simply added a quick scene planting the idea that the guys who 'made' him intentionally covered his mouth because they were sick of him, and then had wolverine 'accidentally' slash his mouth open and he went back to talking? Lol, what a missed opportunity, even if the rest was weird and cringe anyway.
@@Icemario87 it wasn't that anything massive and great came out, it's more that's when the Hollywood market started to be over saturated with over hyped over marketed woke garbage.
@@alchemistofsteel8099 they just used and abused the source material to make something that benefits them. They would slap anger management problems and a green hue on to a fish and call It a day if they thought it would bring them money.
I can't believe the first Deadpool movie taught the lesson of adapting properties to live action, and then we still got uncharted by sony and halo by paramount
Ignoring source material seems Hollywood's default, they did exactly the same with movies kind of based on video game franchises. They have done it with books and several decade old movies before comic book movies got major budgets. It is kind of surprising how much it also comes up in direct sequels of popular films. It seems like part of why they get more pushback with video games, comics, and more recent reboots now is a higher percentage of audience is familiar with it and went for extension of the characters/story they already like. Where audiences would just write something unfamiliar with as average to poor film, with rare cases of enjoying it. I say rare since occasionally you get one that really works like Ocean's Eleven, that strips the first film to a few name, location, and some concepts. However for every one of those that works it seems like 20-100 come off as a waste of production and advertising budget for a product that likely went through development hell. Which kind of makes sense, if production staff do not like the source material, they hardly seem like the people that should be making that type of production.
There’s usually at least a handful of people that accept a bad creative decision for a character. This wasn’t one of those times. Literally everyone hated what they did to Deadpool.
True, with how they treated Deadpool at first wasn't the best! Though I'd argue that sometimes personal taste just plays a role (and some creative decisions can be understandable especially if they can't adapt everything from one medium to another 1-to-1). For example, I'm a fan of the Sandman/Lucifer comics, but have still been able to enjoy the Fox/Netflix TV show of Lucifer since there's a lot of parts in the comics that would have made networks sweat bullets... 0_0 Also, there can be times when an adaptation going against their source material works, like with The Boys show!
When I first saw this movie, my jaw dropped when I saw how they were introducing Wade Wilson. Then I actually considered leaving the theater entirely when "Deadpool" showed up, but I figured the movie was almost over, and so that was that. Anyway, I sometimes get the sense that no matter what the writers or studios say, I feel like they just hate some characters for whatever reason. For example, saying "We wanted to surprise you! ..... ..... Surprise!!!" is just another way of saying "I hated this character and never wanted to use him in the first place!" Or, at the very least, the writers just didn't really know nor understand who the character was. And to them, who cares? The movie was about Wolverine. I guarantee they seriously thought few would care.
You are right though. There was a Fox executive who did not like the deadpool character and didn't want him on screen. (the same executive did not like sentinels and that is why they didn't show up in the movies until that higher up left Fox)
I like to think that the guy who first suggested removing his mouth is just naturally chaotic neutral and knew it would piss us all off. Because that I can respect lol
I've never been able to fully doubt that it was a troll, and am surprised that angle really doesn't get brought up when it's shit on. They not only "shut up" the Merc with a Mouth; they *removed his literal fucking mouth* . It's the primary feature of his physical appearance! Plus of course some of the other stuff. Far from being ridiculously overpowered, the "real" Wade's humanness beyond his healing factor is key to his appeal. And of course he covers up every square inch of his skin to hide his hideous scarring; whereas this Wade to the contrary pointedly exposes *all* his skin from his waist up, for no apparent reason besides showing off how slick, smooth and flawless it is. And so forth. Rian Johnson's got nothing as a troll on this movie's final scene; no one ever came close to this "subverting of expectations"!
That person who forced Deadpool's mouth shut is Tom Rothman. He was a Top Executive at Fox (One of the big heads that got Titanic to be one of the highest grossing movies) and insisted that the X-Men movies would bomb (But in the end the first 2 X-Men movies were a huge success). He didn't like being proven wrong, which is the reason the Deadpool movie had a hardtime getting Greenlit for production, because he prevented it out of spite. He's also the reason X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine were so bad, because he constantly clashed with the director on both movies.
Deadpool finally got through once someone anonymous leaked the test footage of the Deadpool movie AND Rothman was long gone by then so whatever influence he still had, he couldn't prevent the Deadpool movie from being made and becoming, the highest grossing R-rated movie around that time.
@@aleksikoivuporras3781 Isn't it amazing how those uber reach uber powerful people frequently have the most massive case of overcompensating a micropenis syndrome on a level almost unimaginable by normal people? Like, dude, you're already rich, already achieved successes in life and career that few have had and will have... why the fuck be like this? Perkele!
@@aleksikoivuporras3781 This is what envy and covetousness is all about. Causing destruction because you hate to see another succeed. Some people mistake this for greed, but it is not greed, at all.
And guess who was the screenwriter? No one else but David "I fucked up Game of thrones" Benioff, hack (my daddy was head of Goldman Sachs and got me these jobs) nepobaby extraordinaire.
The best scene with Deadpool is the one nobody noticed. When he walks into the bar at the beginning of the first film the first person he greets is 'Puck' from Alpha Flight.
Deadpool 2 is one of the few sequels that is as good, if not better than the original movie, you can really tell with number 2 that they knew more about what people wanted and what they could get away with
I remember a conversation about a Gambit solo film, first with Taylor Kitsch reprising his role (😂), then with Channing Tatum taking over (😂). As great as Gambit is, we were all spared another X-Men Origins.
@@jermonejackson8437 I don't think dwayne didn't play a black adam. He plays the JSA version comics imo pretty decently... probablem is that they're bringinig some of that personalty to the new 52 version sans his baggage, and also the fight correography is plenty generic (but the man can follow a good one if given to him, literally how he built hs career), and the script is bascally "black adam is major secondary character, but the movie is about everything else around him, but we keep hm on screen over those plots the movie is actually about anyway". Ain't enough ability to play (a specific verson of) character A, B or C that can offset that stacked deck.
I think if it wasn’t the character of Deadpool, but rather a new mutant they came up with, he could have been pretty cool and enjoyable. But because it is wade wilson and Deadpool, that’s where so much of the hate comes from.
Oh gods, no. But do listen to passionate and talented creators (actors, writers, directors, everyone) who aren't just writing self insert and their teen quasi wet dream fanfic, but actual well made stories for characaters they do love and respect. Those, yeah, they should listen more of those, but they're really just about the box office - doesn't matter if it is shit, if you can pull enough marketing strings to get more butts in seats and more merchandise, and more sign ups for streaming services, that is all they care.
i love deadpool to a point words cant express, but ive always seen the origins one as a "pre deadpool" as some of the creative team once said, i knew it was gonna be a shattered glass bottle in the shoes of the fandom, but i felt they did that on purpose so the foul mouthed deadpool wouldve been a treat and more of a hit, they even showed us a part of their direction going forward with him with the mouth opening and the 4th wallbreak, idk man it just got me more hyped, him being a straight up villain with none of his attributes, him overcoming them and becoming a comic accurate deadpool, a satisfying kind of winter soldier arc tbh
I guess to say one good thing about Origins Deadpool, the fact they sewed his mouth shut as Weapon XI is just really funny because I bet they wouldn't have done it if it was anyone other than Wade
So glad Ryan Reynolds straightened the Character out regardless of Gavin Hood almost ruining the act. The weapon 11 wasn't remotely comically comparable. Great job keeping the true Deadpool alive Reynolds! 👊
Sucha good time to point out how you so often can have 2 types of people in charge of a project. One who loves and adores the source material and wants to adapt it respectfully. And one who thinks theyre above the source material and who thinks they know best. The contrast between Xmen Origins and the subsequent Deadpool franchise are like night and day!
The Halle Barry Catwoman movie is WILDLY different from the comics/games/other movies in it's portrayal of the character, to the point it's considered one of the worst movies of all time. Even aside from adaptation, it's just really bad on its own.
i might go so far as to say this was the super meta way to intro DP because it makes the scene where he goes back in time and shoots himself like.. jokes don't pay off like that, you can't manufacture that level of happy accident - it was the Bob Ross moment of the marvel collection
okay even more so like, Ryan Reynolds making sure to cram (like that elevator was my earpussy) as much authentic DP into the abortion as possible like - not only is it clearly the strongest to the point of broken overpowered tier four mutant but he literally rips his mouth open for a fourth wall break
i wrote a character back when gene was the only t4 named element just because the monopoly annoyed me but we don't do original anymore so what even are we talking about this for
For the most part I like origins and sometimes revisit it. If only they hadn't screwed up Deadpool so bad. I guess everything turned out fine tho because we still got Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool.
Seewing Deadpool's mouth is preventing him of being himself! Yes he's good with swords BUT his humor is what we love. Censoring one of the most brutal and impolite character is a bad idea. His jokes are part of him! Also, producers tried to censored him in the Deadpool 2 remake and it failed. Wade still says one FU or S**T in the movie. That prooves you can't stop the merch with a mouth 😂
@@albusnightspring8057 Because after marvel acquired the rights, we all know sooner or later they will want to make ther own mutant moviies. Besides, the mutants have had great comic runs (still the current Utopia ethnostate entire storyline to be absolute trash and a curse on the franchise, even if some nuggets of story can be pretty good when taken in complete isolatiion and you pretend it isnt involving the larger bad fanfic world they live iin now). There is so much potental for great live action takes on them, so why shouldnt more be made? A couple of good films involving them existing is no reason to make more. The same reason why the excellent 90s cartoon adaptation is no reason for Wolverine and the X-Men to not have been made, or why the excellent 90s spider cartoon which did feature a good arc of animated "spider-men from multiple dimensions" being no good reason not to make Into The Spiderverse. Also, Deadpool 3 with Ryan + Hugh, my dude. If that doesn't sound like good reason enough, consult a pyschiatrist, a physician and a priest - you might be dead, either inside or literally.
I choose to believe the person who leaked it WAS Deadpool and dimensional travel is actually possible, with him coming from one of his comics and being all "The world needs more ME!"
I love seeing how you guys cover pop culture characters in the cultural zeitgeist. You may want to see how Transformers More Than Meets the Eye and The Last Stand of the Wreckers capture the true nature of Autobots in the lead of Rise of the Beasts. Oh! Or just cover Beast Wars!
I remember watching X-Men Origins: Wolverine I'd say probably a year or two after it was released. I was 10-12 during that time, and I remember being so confused by the deadpool thing at the end of the movie I thought they had cast Ryan Reynolds to play two different characters. I had no idea what was going on with him lol.
as a kid growing up watching the OG xmen cartoons, i would love to see a proper movie about cyclops. he was always the main character and all of my friends had to fight over who would play him when we played xmen ahahaha
As some one who don't read comics and didn't know who deadpool was when I watched the X-Men origin. I pretty enjoyed it. The bad score are mostly people just biased about a character is not the same as the one they knew, but the movie by itself is not bad
They should have done what some of the X-Men animations did and made Deadpool more menacing and intimidating while keeping up his zany attitude. I do remember a genuinely diabolical and villainous Deadpool from at least one of those X-Men cartoons and it was awesome.
When the MCU debuts the x-men, i thought itd be cool if they did it as a Disney plus series, and make every episode of the first season a 30-60 minute long origin story for each of the main characters.
If we are taking into account that the Deadpool movies are set in the new altered timeline post- Days of Future Past, and Origins: Wolverine, X-men 1, X2, Last Stand, and The Wolverine never happened, Wade funnily enough still ends up becoming Deadpool in the new timeline just differently, and under different circumstances more accurately to how he is supposed to be than how he did in Origins: Wolverine. So his canon event is becoming Deadpool one way or another no matter how hard he tries to avoid it.
So many years later and I thought he was just some random antagonist (Deadpool in wolverine origins) I didn't even know he was Deadpool (was like 10 at the time)
Its so funny for me to finally see the actual finished footage of the wolverine origins fight. The only version of that movie I ever watched as a kid was the leaked mid CGI rough cut of the movie. It was honestly 10x better in its unfinished state than experiencing the final version.
4:37 People that wrote Zombieland!? That movie was funny and good, sooooo it shows why Deadpool was so good in the actual Deadpool movies we have 5:52 Ohhhh yes, Deadpool killed that badly made Deadpool
If the 'Deadpool' character was named any other way in Origins, this movie would've been received so much better. It's acyually not a bad movie, with some awesome moment, like the intro, even the elevator scene, and also the final fight was pretty cool.
Actually I never heard of "Deadpool", saw him as a hastily slapped together "Weapon X" doomed to fail (It's development never finished really.) and the fight and his death just a prelude to Wolverine's head shot and memory loss. I saw it as an okay movie, that could of been much better. I saw Dead Pool and realized why people were pissed, but the "merc with a mouth" wasn't known to me either, and he (In beginning of movie.) was just a no powers exmilitary guy to me. I assume me NOT knowing anything about the character made both movies better to me.
Wade’s jaw being wired shut is a reference from one of his first appearances in X-force comics. I got it immediately. I can’t believe how many people don’t know it’s straight out of the comics.
The reason the MCU is so successful is because they actually follow the comic books and when they do change things, it adds to it not take it away Taking X-Men out of their iconic suits and putting them in all black leather is one of the most idiotic things ever but literally having a character that is nick named a “Merc with the mouth” and sewing his mouth shut was probably one of the most dumbest decisions ever the people directing these movies never picked up a comic book, and don’t understand these characters
Honestly had they not failed so hard on the final “Deadpool” fight this movie wouldn’t be too bad. Tbh, it’s fairly enjoyable imo until that final fight where things just become an absurd CGI fever dream.
Remember watching the X-Men, and everyone had to tell me after the movie that was Deadpool.. I was generally confused for years until the new movies came out.
Honestly watching the movie as a kid i didnt even know that was deadpool. I thought it was just some small villian character to showcase wolverines fighting
The only moment that I can say from when they introduced us to the atrocity of X-Men Origins Deadpool that I slightly enjoyed was when he was first stabbed by Wolverine. When he healed, he looked like Reynolds was trying to make the character look like he was grinning and enjoying that logan was surprised that he has a healing factor now.
I get the idea of making Deadpool look creepy without a mouth to make him seem like a scary “final boss”. If he was quipping the whole time while wearing his suit, it just wouldn’t feel like an “end of the movie boss". But yeah, it didn’t work XD
My little brother told me he loved the swords guy from wolverine that he was a fan when we watched it for the first time. Back then we weren't familiar with RR nor Deadpool! 🙌
Captain America (MMXII) "Take all that away-what are you?" Tony Stark (Iron Man Three) "I took shop class like all the other people. I can...shoot...splinters." Deadpool (XMOW) "Nobody fucking cares." Why is there no outcry for him to be in The New Mutants movie? The fact that no one can write to this day the scene where Wade is actually an amalgam character made to win one fight in someone else's movie is the most entertaining part of it. Ryan would have to mime, of course.
Fox didn't listen to the fans, their X-men division was being run by a guy who HATED Deadpool. One guy was to blame for everything. And the name of that man... is nowhere to be found here. Are people really that clueless on production issues?
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To be honest the first half of the movie where Ryan Reynolds swings swords and talks too much is not entirely bad. You can sense the potential in him. It's just everyone remembers the abomination at the end.
Him slicing the bullet is probably my favorite part. I remember watching the early release bootleg wit the homie back in the day and you could see the wires during that scene 😂 most of the VFX were unfinished actually
@@TheRealJahan you just admitted to a crime buddy. Time to call the FBI
@@Carloszavalalol he deserves 100 years in prison
@@TheRealJahan you will swing for that.
@@TheRealJahan Him trying to do it again in Deadpool and completely messing it up is the perfect Easter egg
him "cleaning up the timeline" was the funniest shit
look where it got him lol
It’s to show us how much Ryan hated that version of Deadpool and that he knows how ass Green Lantern was
Yup! 😂👌
@@Nether_Child19Green lantern isnt ass. Its just generic. Idk how they turned the most interesting superhero, with such a great villain gallery out there into... This... Thing...
The funniest part is that said cleanup saved the multiverse by virtue of saving Peter.
"This character's most prominent gimmick is being mouthy."
"Yeah, let's shut him up."
"That'll sure surprise the audience!"
"Let's make shit out of money!"
And give him super powers for some reason. 😂
@@MrGreen-fi5sgI mean he at least has a healing factor so like, there's that.
The merc without a mouth
I remember when my friends and I saw Deadpool 2 and when Deadpool he shot his X-Men Origins counterpart, the theater was filled with laughter! 😂😂🤣😂
honestly, i think if they had made a Gambit movie 30 years ago, Harry Connick Jr. would have been absolutely perfect to play him
I couldn't stop laughing
I almost fell out of my seat 😂
Best part is how he just kept shooting him. Over and over again 🤣
It's fuckin good to see Deadpool killing that stupid version of himself 😂
@@blinkenschnaag777 Should have been the other way around. To say the least, Mr. Red Pepper Pants is the real idiot here and this segment is one of the most pathetic articles in movie history. The Police Academy movies were more entertaining than this piece of garbage "post-ending" and those movies in of themselves were lifeless abominations.
The worst part about the XMen Origins is that they introduce us to the perfect Wade Wilson to us, making the people who know Deadpool excited. All they had to do was give him a healing factor and face that even a mother would puke at to make him the perfect Deadpool, but they decided to make that Thing.
He did have superpowers just not the Wolverine healing type but a minor version of it , that's why he was in the team along with the other mutants & that's why he adapted so well to the Other mutant genes added over his. Thought that was pretty obvious when u watch the movie since sabertooth had donated his DNA to give Wade the healing factor a boost to survive the Adamantium process so the first power he got was sabertooth / wolverines healing.
@@ak-ub1ym shut up man
The teleportation isn't totally inaccurate either. He just needed some bigger pockets :P
Not to be confused with The Thing, who is also much more likeable than that Thing (Deadpool)
Actually I thought it was good. Considering that lots of the powers Deadpool had in that movie likely got destroyed in the end by him being decapitated and the powers were not natural. So all that he would have had in the end was the healing factor. Might not have been true to source material, but was in my opinion a good introduction to how Deadpool became ugly. The backlash was likely ok, but I would have been interested in a second origins wolverine movie where maybe wade meets wolverine and tries to apologize but instead finds Logan who was shot in the head and doesn't remember. A movie with how Logan ends up at the bar in the first X-Men movie. Too late for this now though, especially with Disney owning it. The remake for wade cleaning up his timeline was ok but it leaves plot holes in the fan favorite wolverine storyline. Plot holes that once again will never be answered thanks to days of future past movie.
Ryan Reynolds was born for this character. Nobody can play it better than him
Nah Deadpool Was born for Ryan Reynolds Role. They Both are so perfect Friends Don't they?
Only one who comes close is Nolan North. I'd love to see him in a big-screen take on Deadpool Kills Deadpool with Ryan Reynolds.
I’m convinced that Ryan Reynolds is just our universes Wade Wilson Variant
Just like Wolverine for Hugh Jackman.
i can
The “merc with a mouth” without a mouth would be like having Aquaman not be able to swim, Batman being afraid of the dark, or Spider-Man being afraid of heights
Or johnpatz afraid of American flags
That was the dumbest version of Deadpool. My god don't know what to call that abomination.
How hilarious would it have been, though, if they had simply added a quick scene planting the idea that the guys who 'made' him intentionally covered his mouth because they were sick of him, and then had wolverine 'accidentally' slash his mouth open and he went back to talking? Lol, what a missed opportunity, even if the rest was weird and cringe anyway.
i think that’s the point
“Technically Spider-Man was afraid of heights in Spider-Man ps4🤓”
I wish all the xmen films were like the deadpool ones, not necessarily being rated R, but just with how they wholeheartedly embrace the comic-bookness
Sorry bro. 2015 was the last year of greatness.
@@LOLzum101 what came out that year?
@@Icemario87 it wasn't that anything massive and great came out, it's more that's when the Hollywood market started to be over saturated with over hyped over marketed woke garbage.
Yeah that's why I could never get into the MCU, it always felt like it was scared of the source material
@@alchemistofsteel8099 they just used and abused the source material to make something that benefits them. They would slap anger management problems and a green hue on to a fish and call It a day if they thought it would bring them money.
I can't believe the first Deadpool movie taught the lesson of adapting properties to live action, and then we still got uncharted by sony and halo by paramount
Please, let's forget about Halo by Paramount 😂. It's not real...
Uncharted was a great action movie. as long as youve never played the games.
@@GriffinGameznah it was still a shit movie regardless
The halo show should have hired the writers from Fallout show and maybe it would have saved the show
Ignoring source material seems Hollywood's default, they did exactly the same with movies kind of based on video game franchises. They have done it with books and several decade old movies before comic book movies got major budgets. It is kind of surprising how much it also comes up in direct sequels of popular films. It seems like part of why they get more pushback with video games, comics, and more recent reboots now is a higher percentage of audience is familiar with it and went for extension of the characters/story they already like. Where audiences would just write something unfamiliar with as average to poor film, with rare cases of enjoying it. I say rare since occasionally you get one that really works like Ocean's Eleven, that strips the first film to a few name, location, and some concepts. However for every one of those that works it seems like 20-100 come off as a waste of production and advertising budget for a product that likely went through development hell. Which kind of makes sense, if production staff do not like the source material, they hardly seem like the people that should be making that type of production.
There’s usually at least a handful of people that accept a bad creative decision for a character. This wasn’t one of those times. Literally everyone hated what they did to Deadpool.
And why wouldn't they? He's supposed to be the Merc with a Mouth, not Michael fucking Myers!
heat vision was crazy
I saw at least one person in this comment section that was happy with it
True, with how they treated Deadpool at first wasn't the best! Though I'd argue that sometimes personal taste just plays a role (and some creative decisions can be understandable especially if they can't adapt everything from one medium to another 1-to-1). For example, I'm a fan of the Sandman/Lucifer comics, but have still been able to enjoy the Fox/Netflix TV show of Lucifer since there's a lot of parts in the comics that would have made networks sweat bullets... 0_0
Also, there can be times when an adaptation going against their source material works, like with The Boys show!
deadpool in origins is more like metallo from dc than deadpool
Ryan Reynolds before the transformation scene still rocked as Deadpool, and no one was upset when he came to stay as Deadpool
I love how they killed off the Xmen Origins Deadpool for a fourth wall break gag in Deadpool 2
When I first saw this movie, my jaw dropped when I saw how they were introducing Wade Wilson. Then I actually considered leaving the theater entirely when "Deadpool" showed up, but I figured the movie was almost over, and so that was that. Anyway, I sometimes get the sense that no matter what the writers or studios say, I feel like they just hate some characters for whatever reason. For example, saying "We wanted to surprise you! ..... ..... Surprise!!!" is just another way of saying "I hated this character and never wanted to use him in the first place!" Or, at the very least, the writers just didn't really know nor understand who the character was. And to them, who cares? The movie was about Wolverine. I guarantee they seriously thought few would care.
You are right though. There was a Fox executive who did not like the deadpool character and didn't want him on screen. (the same executive did not like sentinels and that is why they didn't show up in the movies until that higher up left Fox)
It's malice aforethought. your inner innocent child doesn't want to see it for what it is
Disney must really hate spiderman then
@@Icemario87And what is it?
@@C-709 I already said what it is.
I like to think that the guy who first suggested removing his mouth is just naturally chaotic neutral and knew it would piss us all off. Because that I can respect lol
I've never been able to fully doubt that it was a troll, and am surprised that angle really doesn't get brought up when it's shit on. They not only "shut up" the Merc with a Mouth; they *removed his literal fucking mouth* . It's the primary feature of his physical appearance! Plus of course some of the other stuff. Far from being ridiculously overpowered, the "real" Wade's humanness beyond his healing factor is key to his appeal. And of course he covers up every square inch of his skin to hide his hideous scarring; whereas this Wade to the contrary pointedly exposes *all* his skin from his waist up, for no apparent reason besides showing off how slick, smooth and flawless it is. And so forth. Rian Johnson's got nothing as a troll on this movie's final scene; no one ever came close to this "subverting of expectations"!
That person who forced Deadpool's mouth shut is Tom Rothman. He was a Top Executive at Fox (One of the big heads that got Titanic to be one of the highest grossing movies) and insisted that the X-Men movies would bomb (But in the end the first 2 X-Men movies were a huge success). He didn't like being proven wrong, which is the reason the Deadpool movie had a hardtime getting Greenlit for production, because he prevented it out of spite. He's also the reason X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine were so bad, because he constantly clashed with the director on both movies.
Deadpool finally got through once someone anonymous leaked the test footage of the Deadpool movie AND Rothman was long gone by then so whatever influence he still had, he couldn't prevent the Deadpool movie from being made and becoming, the highest grossing R-rated movie around that time.
@@aleksikoivuporras3781 Isn't it amazing how those uber reach uber powerful people frequently have the most massive case of overcompensating a micropenis syndrome on a level almost unimaginable by normal people? Like, dude, you're already rich, already achieved successes in life and career that few have had and will have... why the fuck be like this? Perkele!
@@aleksikoivuporras3781 This is what envy and covetousness is all about. Causing destruction because you hate to see another succeed. Some people mistake this for greed, but it is not greed, at all.
The X Men movies are so hit and miss
@@somerandoladThat’s definitely not true. Some? Yes. All? Hell no 💀
Y’all need to stop finding any excuse to shit on MCU movies every chance you get.
Agreed. My favourites are Xmen First Class and Days of Future Past. Wish the recent one were better. Still a fan of the franchise 😊
X-Men, X-2, First Class, DOFP 👌
@@jonathanacosta36 the X-men films weren’t MCU films, they’re from an entirely different continuity
@@jonathanacosta36 Shitting on movies for the right causes is never wrong. Shitting for the wrong causes is a problem.
Got a mint mobile ad in the middle of this and didn't realize it was an add for a second
Reynolds spent half of his career to be deadpool. This would never have happened without him. He even said no to high paying gigs.
"We hope to surprise you" that was like asking for a PS5 and getting Mario teaches typing 😅
Good thing I didn't know who Deadpool was when I watched this movie
good thing I watched it _knowing_ time travel shenanigans would ensue later on, so this past timeline didn't matter save for wolverine's origin story.
It's actually impressive how inept the director and screenwriter were for this movie.
And guess who was the screenwriter? No one else but David "I fucked up Game of thrones" Benioff, hack (my daddy was head of Goldman Sachs and got me these jobs) nepobaby extraordinaire.
The best scene with Deadpool is the one nobody noticed. When he walks into the bar at the beginning of the first film the first person he greets is 'Puck' from Alpha Flight.
Thats Buck, not Puck from the comics. He is just a bar customer/merc who is friends with Wade. He also appears in DP2
At least they kept the continuity with keeping Ryan Reynolds’s as Deadpool
Deadpool 2 is one of the few sequels that is as good, if not better than the original movie, you can really tell with number 2 that they knew more about what people wanted and what they could get away with
If that's the endpoint of where they wanted to go, there was a simple change they could have made: call him Mimic
Ah yes, they really nailed Shatterstar's big screen debut
It was a... SPLASH.
People were **dying** when he appeared
more like propellered
I remember a conversation about a Gambit solo film, first with Taylor Kitsch reprising his role (😂), then with Channing Tatum taking over (😂). As great as Gambit is, we were all spared another X-Men Origins.
😂😂 i remember that!
No way in hell Channing can play a Gambit character ever just like Dwayne Rock can't play as Black Adam
@@jermonejackson8437 I don't think dwayne didn't play a black adam. He plays the JSA version comics imo pretty decently... probablem is that they're bringinig some of that personalty to the new 52 version sans his baggage, and also the fight correography is plenty generic (but the man can follow a good one if given to him, literally how he built hs career), and the script is bascally "black adam is major secondary character, but the movie is about everything else around him, but we keep hm on screen over those plots the movie is actually about anyway". Ain't enough ability to play (a specific verson of) character A, B or C that can offset that stacked deck.
@@jermonejackson8437well you’ll be surprised…
Tbf he wasn't half bad as the cameo
But then again it was a cameo so can't say much
I think if it wasn’t the character of Deadpool, but rather a new mutant they came up with, he could have been pretty cool and enjoyable. But because it is wade wilson and Deadpool, that’s where so much of the hate comes from.
As soon as Ryan put on the costume and started being funny, it was like Deadpool jumped straight out of a comic book!
If only studios listened to the fans more......
Oh gods, no. But do listen to passionate and talented creators (actors, writers, directors, everyone) who aren't just writing self insert and their teen quasi wet dream fanfic, but actual well made stories for characaters they do love and respect. Those, yeah, they should listen more of those, but they're really just about the box office - doesn't matter if it is shit, if you can pull enough marketing strings to get more butts in seats and more merchandise, and more sign ups for streaming services, that is all they care.
@@louisvictor3473 where do you think passionate creators draw inspiration. lol
Ryan Reynolds himself warned them that this wouldn't work
@@Richtofen-gy9cj He sure knew his stuff, because he's aware of what was going on
i love deadpool to a point words cant express, but ive always seen the origins one as a "pre deadpool" as some of the creative team once said, i knew it was gonna be a shattered glass bottle in the shoes of the fandom, but i felt they did that on purpose so the foul mouthed deadpool wouldve been a treat and more of a hit, they even showed us a part of their direction going forward with him with the mouth opening and the 4th wallbreak, idk man it just got me more hyped, him being a straight up villain with none of his attributes, him overcoming them and becoming a comic accurate deadpool, a satisfying kind of winter soldier arc tbh
It says alot when the few emotional scenes in the deadpool movies are more impacting then almost every marvel movie in recent times.
The Man is literally Deadpool at this point.
Ok but the teleport animation is pretty sick.
i mean i guess
Oooh yes I loved that 😮. My mind was blown.
YES, VERY SICK
YES, VERY SICK
That's the point they made. It's visually appealing but that's about it
I guess to say one good thing about Origins Deadpool, the fact they sewed his mouth shut as Weapon XI is just really funny because I bet they wouldn't have done it if it was anyone other than Wade
The primordial "subverting expectations".
Kind of goes to show so many people in charge have no idea what they are doing and so many good ideas die if they don't find a way to make them listen
Tim Miller left dp 2 over creative differences ? i didn't know that. And seeing what he did with terminator. Reynolds most likely made the right call.
we definately need a horror movie (a24, blumhouse type movie) about ForgetMeNot, that mutant that has the power of being forgotten completely
So glad Ryan Reynolds straightened the Character out regardless of Gavin Hood almost ruining the act. The weapon 11 wasn't remotely comically comparable. Great job keeping the true Deadpool alive Reynolds! 👊
So the lesson is, shocker, listen to your fans more, hollywood! :P
Great video~
which should be common sense since the fans are the one keeping the lights on at Hollywood
Sucha good time to point out how you so often can have 2 types of people in charge of a project.
One who loves and adores the source material and wants to adapt it respectfully.
And one who thinks theyre above the source material and who thinks they know best.
The contrast between Xmen Origins and the subsequent Deadpool franchise are like night and day!
Funny that D&D were the scriptwriters for the Wolverine origins movie, who descended the final seasons of GAME OF THRONES into oblivion
Now that explains a lot
0:10 I don't see what's "going against the source material" in this example.
The Halle Barry Catwoman movie is WILDLY different from the comics/games/other movies in it's portrayal of the character, to the point it's considered one of the worst movies of all time. Even aside from adaptation, it's just really bad on its own.
@@Antiganos As a teenager I didn't care cause Halle Berry in that suit was all I needed lol
@UltimaJC brrooo same lmfao I was like "this isn't how it went! .... oh man looking at her walk swinging that whip" 🤤
MCU needs to take note on how to actually use the right character for comedy.
i might go so far as to say this was the super meta way to intro DP because it makes the scene where he goes back in time and shoots himself like.. jokes don't pay off like that, you can't manufacture that level of happy accident - it was the Bob Ross moment of the marvel collection
okay even more so like, Ryan Reynolds making sure to cram (like that elevator was my earpussy) as much authentic DP into the abortion as possible like - not only is it clearly the strongest to the point of broken overpowered tier four mutant but he literally rips his mouth open for a fourth wall break
i wrote a character back when gene was the only t4 named element just because the monopoly annoyed me but we don't do original anymore so what even are we talking about this for
honestly seems like it was a blessing in disguise they failed so hard at first, so that they course corrected so much to perfection.
thanks for reminding me to go watch the deadpool movies again
For the most part I like origins and sometimes revisit it. If only they hadn't screwed up Deadpool so bad. I guess everything turned out fine tho because we still got Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool.
Biggest comeback for a character and actor in cinema. So much that I genuinely forgot Ryan played both Deadpools
Seewing Deadpool's mouth is preventing him of being himself! Yes he's good with swords BUT his humor is what we love. Censoring one of the most brutal and impolite character is a bad idea. His jokes are part of him! Also, producers tried to censored him in the Deadpool 2 remake and it failed. Wade still says one FU or S**T in the movie. That prooves you can't stop the merch with a mouth 😂
Ryan Reynolds has had a more positive impact on superhero movies than anyone alive today.
i mean to be fair his mouth is ripped open at the end so atleast he had one
it really is a big joy that we got this new version of Deadpool
now all is left to see how they bring back the wolverine
Why should they
@@albusnightspring8057 Because after marvel acquired the rights, we all know sooner or later they will want to make ther own mutant moviies. Besides, the mutants have had great comic runs (still the current Utopia ethnostate entire storyline to be absolute trash and a curse on the franchise, even if some nuggets of story can be pretty good when taken in complete isolatiion and you pretend it isnt involving the larger bad fanfic world they live iin now). There is so much potental for great live action takes on them, so why shouldnt more be made? A couple of good films involving them existing is no reason to make more. The same reason why the excellent 90s cartoon adaptation is no reason for Wolverine and the X-Men to not have been made, or why the excellent 90s spider cartoon which did feature a good arc of animated "spider-men from multiple dimensions" being no good reason not to make Into The Spiderverse.
Also, Deadpool 3 with Ryan + Hugh, my dude. If that doesn't sound like good reason enough, consult a pyschiatrist, a physician and a priest - you might be dead, either inside or literally.
@@albusnightspring8057 Surprise! Hugh Jackman is donning the comic-accurate Yellow Suit!
Hi I'm from the future and they actually brought back the wolverine
I choose to believe the person who leaked it WAS Deadpool and dimensional travel is actually possible, with him coming from one of his comics and being all "The world needs more ME!"
I love seeing how you guys cover pop culture characters in the cultural zeitgeist. You may want to see how Transformers More Than Meets the Eye and The Last Stand of the Wreckers capture the true nature of Autobots in the lead of Rise of the Beasts.
Oh! Or just cover Beast Wars!
I remember watching X-Men Origins: Wolverine I'd say probably a year or two after it was released. I was 10-12 during that time, and I remember being so confused by the deadpool thing at the end of the movie I thought they had cast Ryan Reynolds to play two different characters. I had no idea what was going on with him lol.
So glad he got reborn after the events of Days of Future Past
as a kid growing up watching the OG xmen cartoons, i would love to see a proper movie about cyclops. he was always the main character and all of my friends had to fight over who would play him when we played xmen ahahaha
Thank you, Ryan Reynolds, for going along to not get recasted
As some one who don't read comics and didn't know who deadpool was when I watched the X-Men origin. I pretty enjoyed it.
The bad score are mostly people just biased about a character is not the same as the one they knew, but the movie by itself is not bad
2:22 NEW ZEALAND mentioned
They should have done what some of the X-Men animations did and made Deadpool more menacing and intimidating while keeping up his zany attitude.
I do remember a genuinely diabolical and villainous Deadpool from at least one of those X-Men cartoons and it was awesome.
Great video sir thanks 😊 🙏 I love deadpool and Ryan Reynolds he got a bad beginning from a studio who didn't understand the source material, 😀
When the MCU debuts the x-men, i thought itd be cool if they did it as a Disney plus series, and make every episode of the first season a 30-60 minute long origin story for each of the main characters.
Yes with random commentary from Deadpool because they weren't in this universe to begin with
@@JayLew91like the lego game hes the narrator
If we are taking into account that the Deadpool movies are set in the new altered timeline post- Days of Future Past, and Origins: Wolverine, X-men 1, X2, Last Stand, and The Wolverine never happened, Wade funnily enough still ends up becoming Deadpool in the new timeline just differently, and under different circumstances more accurately to how he is supposed to be than how he did in Origins: Wolverine. So his canon event is becoming Deadpool one way or another no matter how hard he tries to avoid it.
I didn't love Deadpool in X-Men Origins but I liked the idea of taking is mouth away... His mouth was like his main power aha
So many years later and I thought he was just some random antagonist (Deadpool in wolverine origins) I didn't even know he was Deadpool (was like 10 at the time)
The cgi of x men origins look like a Micheal Scott production
Its so funny for me to finally see the actual finished footage of the wolverine origins fight. The only version of that movie I ever watched as a kid was the leaked mid CGI rough cut of the movie. It was honestly 10x better in its unfinished state than experiencing the final version.
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People that wrote Zombieland!?
That movie was funny and good, sooooo it shows why Deadpool was so good in the actual Deadpool movies we have
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Ohhhh yes, Deadpool killed that badly made Deadpool
If the 'Deadpool' character was named any other way in Origins, this movie would've been received so much better. It's acyually not a bad movie, with some awesome moment, like the intro, even the elevator scene, and also the final fight was pretty cool.
Actually I never heard of "Deadpool", saw him as a hastily slapped together "Weapon X" doomed to fail (It's development never finished really.) and the fight and his death just a prelude to Wolverine's head shot and memory loss.
I saw it as an okay movie, that could of been much better. I saw Dead Pool and realized why people were pissed, but the "merc with a mouth" wasn't known to me either, and he (In beginning of movie.) was just a no powers exmilitary guy to me.
I assume me NOT knowing anything about the character made both movies better to me.
Agreed, if it was called Weapon XI and played by anyone except Ryan Reynolds, the movie would still have sucked but this problem would've been fixed
I remember this movie leaked with some of the special effects not done.
I was wondering what you were yapping about until I saw DEADPOOL shoot fucking laser beams out of eyeballs and then I got it.
Wade’s jaw being wired shut is a reference from one of his first appearances in X-force comics. I got it immediately. I can’t believe how many people don’t know it’s straight out of the comics.
“I hope we surprised you!”
Yeah, I wasn’t expecting to want a refund over a single character!
Well, this for the first time, Deadpool is hilarious. I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would.
Don’t forget that this movies budget was 50 million, far less then the average marvel movie
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Deadpool isn't a Mutant - he’s a mutate. Meaning his body was forced to change.
The reason the MCU is so successful is because they actually follow the comic books and when they do change things, it adds to it not take it away
Taking X-Men out of their iconic suits and putting them in all black leather is one of the most idiotic things ever
but literally having a character that is nick named a “Merc with the mouth” and sewing his mouth shut was probably one of the most dumbest decisions ever the people directing these movies never picked up a comic book, and don’t understand these characters
When I see Deadpool's costume, he reminds me of Deathstroke and Spiderman
Honestly had they not failed so hard on the final “Deadpool” fight this movie wouldn’t be too bad. Tbh, it’s fairly enjoyable imo until that final fight where things just become an absurd CGI fever dream.
I got a Mint Mobile (ya know, the Ryan Renolds commercials) before this video. 10/10
Nobody kills you but me.that is literally the most sibling thing I’ve ever heard in my life😂😂😂
Remember watching the X-Men, and everyone had to tell me after the movie that was Deadpool.. I was generally confused for years until the new movies came out.
Honestly watching the movie as a kid i didnt even know that was deadpool. I thought it was just some small villian character to showcase wolverines fighting
My personal favorite conspiracy theory is that x men deadpool was made just to make the scene where he kills his old version
The only moment that I can say from when they introduced us to the atrocity of X-Men Origins Deadpool that I slightly enjoyed was when he was first stabbed by Wolverine. When he healed, he looked like Reynolds was trying to make the character look like he was grinning and enjoying that logan was surprised that he has a healing factor now.
The first half of origins was AMAZING
I get the idea of making Deadpool look creepy without a mouth to make him seem like a scary “final boss”. If he was quipping the whole time while wearing his suit, it just wouldn’t feel like an “end of the movie boss". But yeah, it didn’t work XD
My little brother told me he loved the swords guy from wolverine that he was a fan when we watched it for the first time. Back then we weren't familiar with RR nor Deadpool! 🙌
We need a Gambit movie with a jean grey and Deadpool cameo
This must be the greatest redemption story ever.
"Merc with a mouth"
Fox: Let's get rid of his mouth
1:58 The comic spelt Reynolds wrong, they spelt it as Renolds
I'm glad they let Reynolds actually get that proper shot. Best Marvel casting move yet.
The only thing they really had to do was still let him talk… that’s it
I liked Deadpool's X Men origins counterpart
Captain America (MMXII) "Take all that away-what are you?"
Tony Stark (Iron Man Three) "I took shop class like all the other people. I can...shoot...splinters."
Deadpool (XMOW) "Nobody fucking cares." Why is there no outcry for him to be in The New Mutants movie? The fact that no one can write to this day the scene where Wade is actually an amalgam character made to win one fight in someone else's movie is the most entertaining part of it. Ryan would have to mime, of course.
Fox: Actually listens to what the fans want to see.
MCU: "Hey, let's make the bad guy from Ant-Man 1 into M.O.D.O.K.!"
@@legostuds680 nah people just love to shit on the MCU at any chance they get now
Fox didn't listen to the fans, their X-men division was being run by a guy who HATED Deadpool.
One guy was to blame for everything. And the name of that man... is nowhere to be found here.
Are people really that clueless on production issues?
Haha! I didn't even know about that post-credit scene.