Pudgy Pudge You know what，your judge Alla knows nothing about ice dance but sits as a judge. This is said by one of your Russian coaches. What an easy way to be a judge since you are the wife of the president of RSU lol.
Nata you are right ! as if sotnikova are suited goldenmedalist , she will show appropriate result at pyung chang haha Let's see her ~~ almost all of country except Russia and Korea have thought Russia always get golden medal in rude way we are worried about next fuxx worldcup
@@shalowa.j6412 She didn't execute a perfect program in terms of technical execution, but she did execute a nearly perfect program artistically. The problem is that the scoring system values difficulty much more than it values artistry, and Kim's program was relatively safe: Of the top 3, she was the only one whose "base points" were below 60 (and all the athletes have complete control over what their base points are-so she knew going in that she would have a deficit) ... so she made up a lot with artistry, but not enough.
@@DanielFolsom whatever it is, all in all, in conclusion, yuna kim may not be perfect but adelina was way worse than the other three figure skater program. Lol
@@imnbatrisyia4377 The problem was that Sotnikova was given scores she did not deserve. Kim, Kostner and Gold were robbed of their rightful placements and medals. All for the sake of giving Russia its first gold medal in the women's individual event, so pathetic. And everyone knows that Russia was all for Lipnitskaia, but she had fallen, so they had to get behind Sotnikova.
There were no Ls to be had, it's a classic case of Russian corruption. Shaking my head at these delusional Ruskies thinking Sotnikova what's-her-name deserved that tainted medal. Convince yourself all you want honey, it'll make you feel better. P.S. Europe doesn't want you . Please extricate yourself from this continent.
Well, It's a good lesson learn to Yuna. Sometime life is not fair and she should improve next time. I'm not sure what you meant about "Yuna country ppl vote" ; I'm not Korean but I like to watch this sport and I would like to see anyone who can win Yuna that should be greater than Sotnikova.
The Sochi scandal produced one of the most controversial moments in figure skating history. t’s like watching the great boxing legend Mohammed Ali knock a competitor out and losing the match. It was this ridicules. Adelina did have 1 more triple than Yuna, but Yuna had 1 more double than Adelina which makes the total jump rotation a difference of only 1 rotation. Yuna had 2-triple Lutz jumps in her routine, Adelina attepmted 1 and had a wrong edge which means she tecnically had 0 Triple Lutz. The GOE (Grade of Execution) is given from a scale of -3 to +3 for each element. This is where Yuna Kim would excel as her jumps had better height, dept and speed throughout. But it appears the judges gave Adelina positive GOE for the error in the Lutz and the step out in the combination which makes no sense at all. Adelina scored more +3 than Yuna, Mao and Carolina combined. One element where Adelina should get slightly higher marks would be the spins. Adelina spins are terrific as he shows great flexibility and speed. Her spins are innovated and mesmerizing to watch. The 3 spins Adelina performed had a base value of 9.4 points, but Yuna was also 9.4. The Spins are one element that Adelina has an edge over Yuna but the base values are the same and this wouldn’t play a factor because Yuna Kim trumps Adelina in the other departments: Jumps, Skating Skills, Transitions, Performance, Choreography and Interpretation. With a huge advantage, it’s clearly easy to see why Yuna Kim should have had a higher score and claimed her 2nd Olympic gold medal.
@@nata3116 You believe the judges who can't judge.They get paid to do that but look, people still talk about it after so many years that's because the judges couldn't judge. If a regular person can spot that Yuna did a better job than the Russian people wouldn't be saying anything about the judges' decision. But they didn't do their job properly so they should be ashamed of themselves.
Why did adelina win gold again? No matter how many times i watch her performance, its still no match to kim yuna's. I mean, kim yuna's performance is just PERFECT!!! While adelina's just... just... just.... a skating routine. Its blah.
Apparently, Adelina facial expressed more emotion in her freeskate compared to Yuna is what some may say. Adelina clearly did not have a perfect freekskate while Yuna was near perfection. And Yuna expressed her emotion through her skating without all the extra gimmicks/distractions, yet, some say it was 'boring'. As for the controversial results, "this is just happens in figure skating" some have said. Well, if this is what typically happens in figure skating, then thank you for reminding me why I've lost interest and in respect in this sport.
CANDICE PERKINS No, Yuna's expression was within her skating. She didn't need all that add'l gimicks or distractions. She simply skated with a more subtle passion, poetry, and flawless beauty. A different type of entertainment--almost reminding and telling the story of the lost art/meaning in figure skating. Adelina freeskated purely to entertain which I was for a moment, but it was Kim Yuna's performance that I will remember for ages (for the right reason) and remember Adelina (for the wrong reason) as one of the most controversial I've seen. This Olympics in figure skating could've been one of the most memorable, but unfortunately, it's been tainted by the inflated results. This is a case of where QUANTITY of jumps tarnished the QUALITY in figure skating. Such a shame.
В ФК, две оценки техника и красота исполнения, две но они сливаются во едино! После многочисленных скандалов на многих ОИ, существо приняли новые правила и каждый выполненный элемент получал свою оценку, в сумме это баллы! Так вот по баллам выиграла Сотникова! Вот а танцах все основные соперники Нашей пары признали, что самая серьезная программа была у них, но они ошиблись в элементах ,результат они на третьем месте! И зрелищность тут не причем! Красота + техника! Таковы правила!
@@nata3116 Yeah look those shameless judges shouldnt be judges. They need to have morals and self respect honestly. It was so clear that Yuna performed better than that Russian. They need to know what justice and fairness is. We're in 2020 and people are still talking about it so it was clear that the judges stuffed up.
Under-rotating, pre-rotating, wrong edge jumps... and some people say she's a better techinical skater. What a joke. And to those who keep referring to that NYT article, the photos were manipulated and the article doesn't even compare the scores properly.
Gulnara Ah Koy Kim's spiral isn't poor. It's decent. And if I remember correctly Kostner held it for roundabouts the same period. And please don't bring Kwan in this discussion- she's a great from the previous era. Rules were different back then, but admittedly her spirals were amazing
So where is Adelina now? Got cocky since you won Gold Medal once? I heard you got 59th place in some figure skating competition? What a joke. I felt bad for you at first because of all the hate you got due to the judges unfair scoring, but you just had to rub salt and say in your interview that you were better than Yeona. What a big joke. I feel bad for your talent.
It's not her fault. In fact, I think she also was negatively affected by her gold medal. Everybody, and I mean, everybody knows she didn't deserve it. In fact, I think she knows too.
There is no doubt that Adelina is a marvellous, very promising young girl. but the questions that still remain a month after the competition. 1.How has Sotnikova's PCS increased by a total of almost 20 points (counting both short and free skates) in a space of 2months? 2. Why didn't judges mark wrong edge on her FLUTZ(Wrong edge) 3.That her 3T was under-rotated by 1/4 or 1/2 was visible even to the naked eye without the slow-motion replay. And as has been pointed out above, there should have been further deduction for her wrong edge along with the deduction for the under-rotation. Instead she was awarded plus GOE for the combination. Furthermore, 3T requires skaters to use the toe pick during the take off. Instead, Sotnikova used the full blade to jump off the ice? a completely wrong and improper jumping technique. 4.She stepped out of the double loop and two-footed the landing. It seriously disrupted the flow of the jump. In addition, her rotation in the air was shaky. According to guidelines given by ISU, such mistake (two footed landing in particular) merits -2 to -3 level of GOE. But the penalty given was only at -0.9. Even if the judges had decided that -2 level of GOE would be sufficient, the point deducted would have been at least 1.4. 5.How did she get the step level 4 in both short and free programs?(while Yuna got level 3. It should have been completely opposite) 6.How was her low-grade flip awarded the higher GOE than Yuna's 7. Only 1.44 difference in the base value! It is the actual execution of those jumps and judges’ perception of their quality that determine the marks, not the plan on the paper. It has already been said that Sotnikova’s executions of technical elements were not the cleanest on the night. But GOE given to her is something you would see given to perfectly executed elements.
@@ennieannie6027 It has been ten years now. I still wonder if we will ever find out who was behind this judging and if anyone will be the whistleblower and reveal the truth. If that ever happens, Yuna Kim will get her second Olympic Gold. I highly doubt that Adelina would get her medal taken away, but her win would become incredibly embarrassing and humiliating in Russia.
@@pink_water_melon Obviously, it was a typo. If that's the only thing you cared about out of everything I wrote, then so be it. You can easily do the math for yourself.
@@olivialau88 How is it a typo? "ten" is not even close to "seven" ? It's not a big deal, I was just reading through comments and it struck me that you had rounded up 7 to 10, hence my response. Nothing hostile, just legitimately cracked me up
To Oka rus: Я с вами полностью согласна! Очень неприятно читать комментарии этих "великих знатоков" фигурного катания! Никак не могут осознать, что антироссийская пропаганда, которой они с удовольствием внимают, не имеет ничего общего с действительностью.
In a way, this makes Yuna’s legend even greater. She knew she was the real winner and acted like a true champion. People are not blind and everyone knew what was going on. Yuna knew another gold medal would not affect her legacy and this brought more attention to her greatness. I would have loved if she actually got the gold but everyone knows what happened.
@@nata3116 what? Did u see Adelina “Lutz”? And her 2nd level step sequence? How it can be better than the amazing program of Yuna Kim? Your comment is a big Joke man
@@marianagutierrezcarrillo4357 For some time now, the judges prefer to underestimate the assessment of Russian skaters, rather than overestimate. In this case, if the judges decided that Adeline won, then she won.
So Kim Yuna skated perfectly so she’s in 2nd place, Carolina Kostner and Gracie Gold skated with their heart and without any errors and they get third and fourth.... So Adelina Sotnikova has a flat edge on a Flutz, two feet landing, under rotations and skated ‘ok’ and gets first. Not to mention the Gala horror. And people are okay with this? Why don’t we do something to ban ISU?
@@zylffinn9455 Even Alexandra Trusova (current Olympic silver medallist and quad revolutionist in women's figure skating) thinks Adelina deserved that gold in one of her older interviews
I still cannot understand why judges did not deduct points of wrong edged jumps that they always have deducted right before this home cooking Olympic games.
1. Carolina is always been a goddes 2. Yuna Is the gold medal, I don't recognize the judges scores 3. They have ruined Adelina forever with this. She will always be remembered just for this robbery and not her real talent. 4. Gracie deserved more too 5. Have I mentioned Carolina immense artistry on ice?
권은정 No, Yuna should get the bronze medal. She landed only SIX triples and the second Lutz was really underrotated. You wanting or not, Adelina had a harder program than Yuna, and the only mistake was in a 2Lo, so the silver medal woud be fair. I'm not fan of Carolina Kostner, but she was the most perfect in the Olys. Her FS, aside Mao Asada, was the most difficult and she executed perfectly. She should get the GOLD medal, not Yuna. And Yuna's jumps aren't so good as in Vancouver, she lost height and ice coverage. Adelina Sotnikova has good jumps yes, her jumps have a monstrous height and are good rotated. Let's be real, both of them are good and Yuna didn't fall from heaven.
André C. B. I'm sorry, Adelina's Lutz was jumped in wrong edge which was INSIDE EDGE FOR SURE, and the second 3T was under-rotated definitely. And a single mistake must make huge deduction of PCS which she did not. There's no way to describe her score gap between European Champ and the Olympic game. Adelina is NOTHING W/OUT RUSSIAN FEDERATION. By the way, Adelina has one of the terrible jump position ever just like Mao's. However, I do agree that Carolina deserves to be the champion. If that event wasn't hosted in Russia, Adelina would probably be in around 5th place or something, the same to Lipnitskaya.
Serena416 Yuna Kim doesn't deserve gold and did a weak program for the level of the competition, it's all. Adelina Sotnikova won like Yuna won in Vancouver with a shocking inflated score (Yuna Kim FS Pesonal Best before Vancouver: 133.95. After Vancouver: 150.06). And, sorry,but Mao Asada has one of the most beautiful rotations in the air and her edge jumps are perfectly executed.
Let’s clap for the wrong edged, under rotated, pre-rotated, double footed “Olympic champion" who has dispersed in the history of this sport while Yuna Kim, Carolina, Mao have become a legends.
Yuna Kim has always been known as the total package - superior technically AND artistically (Scott Hamilton said she is an "Phenom") but after the 2014 Russian Olympic games her technical ability has been downplayed yet her programs were good enough to win the GOLD. Unfortunately, figure skating is now (see NBC's reviews) just about "attempting" more jumps so perhaps they should just get rid of component scores and grade of execution.
Sotnikova got a gold medal mainly because she was overscored by Russian judges!! So when will we see her be back at competition again? Who could answer that?
@@yellomelon2450 She honestly put that on herself. She felt no shame after the competition. She was arrogant saying that she deserved the gold medal (when she clearly didn't). Like its pretty clear that if people are talking about it to this day how Yuna should've won. Sotnikova never deserved that gold medal.
What I don't like about this report is that the commentator is only talking about the jumps. Figure Skating has many other elements than just jumps. There are spins and spirals and foot work, etc.
Adelina's strength lies in her athleticism, not her artistry or finesse; it was likely the only positive thing the commentator could say - "look at the elevation of her jumps."
дада ,и именно в спиралях и дорожках Аделина тоже сильна. все ее спины 4 уровня! посмотрите программу ! все супер и у нее свои спины. которые не делают другие и прыжки высокие и качественные! корейки. учитесь прыгать и перестаньте фигурное катание балетом называть, да и не спите на льду, скучно. фу
The one who win the gold medal is mean she's just win. But the one who win the silver medal is mean the world. Yuna win the gold medal already so she's already the queen. I will never forget her performance.
Here we are once again watching the corruption of judging on the biggest international stage of figure skating! The correct ladies ended up on the podium, but the order needs to be reconsidered. Adelina showed a lot of athletic talent and major potential for more great things to come. She was totally worthy of a bronze medal, and considering the talented veterans and youngsters she was up against, that's a great achievement. With Yuna, Carolina, and Mao looking to retire, we needs great young talent like Adelina (and Julia, Gracie, ect.) to carry on the sport. And I really don't want to rag on Sontikova too much for her annoying yet totally predicable attitude when it comes to her gold medal (if you want to compare her post olympic interviews about her controversial win to that of athletes involved in any other sport in similar situations, Adelina was actually pretty polite, even at her worst), but I fear that the same type of corrupt judging that we saw in Sochi will keep her from winning big contests outside of Russia when she is ready to demonstrate gold level skating. What a ridiculous waste, all around! I love figure skating, but the ISU needs to fix this issue, because it's been out of control for far too long, and new new judging system seems to making the component inflating, which is one of the easiest places for judges to cheat, worse than ever.
If you haven't already read it, former ISU rule maker, referee, critic of the new judging system, and fighter of corruption in judging, Sonia Bianchetti Garbato, has written a great short essay on the subject of the 2014 Olympic games that I suggest people read. It's a level headed bit of fresh air in the face of this competition, which has stirred up quite a bit of emotion. It's similar to the now famous Dick Button tweet, but it goes into a bit more detail: www.soniabianchetti.com/writings_sochi2014.html I'd also recommend reading her bit on the Europeans, which gives the hint that geo-political bias was to rear it's ugly head in Sochi as it has in so many major figure skating events before it: "In Budapest, it was a general opinion among many coaches, officials and judges that Carolina was definitely undermarked. There is no doubt that both Julia and Adelina are marvelous, very promising young girls, technically fantastic, but at a sidereal distance from Carolina as far as the interpretation of the music, the body movement and the choreography are concerned." www.soniabianchetti.com/writings_europeans2014.html Actually, I recommend all her writings, she has a great insight on this sport.
2:57 - a blatant underrotation + two footed landing is more than a "miscue". We all know her program was far from perfect and that Yuna Kim should've won gold.
THE LIKE TO DISLIKE RATIO HAS ME SCREAMING !! we all know it should have been queen yuna winning gold, carolina getting silver and Gracie getting bronze :/
nickola piterskiy hope you're proud of her Fake Gold. it was never in the league with the Honest Gold like your Yagudin in 2002. I can't believe how the Russians, who used to be so dominant in the figure skating world, became so deteriorate in their expectations. i mean, you Russians really think Adelina's performance is in the level of gold medal?? have you even tried to check into all the scores in SP and FS? Adelina and Yulia's scores were outrageously overscored left and right. they did't even give wrong edge to Adelina and her certain scores were even HIGHER than Yuna. LMAO???? let alone Mao, too. PURE SOCHEAT joke they were pulling...DEMENTED AND SAD
+nickola piterskiy First of all, I am not Korean. I gotta say tho, that only Russians see Adelina as their queen, but she is NOT a queen to people from all over the world. Yuna Kim will forever be remembered with good words. She is an icon in the sport who will be talked about for many years to come in a positive manner of people from different backgrounds. Yuna's legacy will live forever. Her Sochi silver shines 10x brightly than your Adelina's 'gold' because Russia was too hungry and desperate for a win in ladies figure skating. Your Adelina will NOT be cherished, and will be forgotten.
The Russian audience were just awful that night. So rude to Yuna. All they care about is there dirty gold and not even clapping. Even some of the well known skaters said it was dull when Yuna was performing. Just plain rude and can't wait for Adelina and Yulia come to Korea 2018. None of you are getting gold there smh.
I didn't say it because they were Russians. They genuinely have no chance because they're not skating in their hometown or it's not an European championship. Unless Adelina fixes her flutz and change her program with harder jumps and lvl 4 step sequence and learn a better technique, then yeah she has a chance. But right now she doesn't. and i dont care about that yulia girl.
Accoridng to technical score,Sotnikova's long program is difficult than Yuna Kim. But she didn't do it well. [Unstable landing(Two-feet landing), Flutz jump(cheating lutz jump by using inside edge(must be judged Wrong edge), Under-rotation, step-level..] Then Yuna Kim's short program was more difficult than Sotnikova . And the score was almost same. How do you explain this based on your 'difficult program' theory? Yuna Kim didn't make a mistake. (long&short program) And what about Mao Asada? She did 3A and triple combo in her FS) Should she won the free program? No, Figure skating is not Jumping competetion. In terms of jumps, the russian's technic is coarse though. The one thing you have to know is that a lot of successive gold medalist won the competition without many jumps than silver medalist. The Important thing is not the quantity but the quality of jump!
Please explain how Yuna Kim's perfect, clean program was scored less than Sotnikova's program where she made so many mistakes! Like even comparing Sotnikova's program to Kostner's doesn't make sense!
um.. sotnikova had one more triple jump but kim had one more double, so their base score was only 1.4 different, and if i explain logically without any artistically scores, kim should've one b/c sotnikova landed two footed once and didn't land correctly on the second. so sotnikova fans, plz stop arguing. even without this fact, everyone knows the real result...
We all know this is not the real podium lmao. Here's my personal evaluation: Carolina had the best short, while Mao had the best, most challenging free skate (that 3A? hello.) Both of Caro's programs were fantastic and are definitely the highlight of her career, as is Mao's free, but unfortunately her short wasn't clean. Yuna had amazing skates that were both clean and elegant but they weren't as energetic and expressive as her Vancouver performances and they weren't more enjoyable that Caro and Mao's short and free for me personally. Gracie Gold has amazing jumps and is overall a very powerful skater, so my top 3 would be: 1. Caro, 2. Yuna, 3. Between Mao and Gracie, but most likely goes to Mao because I don't think the mistakes on her short are enough to discredit that incredible free.
Yuna shined brighter than the gold that night and that Russian skater doesn't even have a tiny bit of shame to actually say that she was better than yuna. Smh
I think Adelina spends the rest of her life with distress. So many people talk about this ridiculous event untill she dies and... even in many years she apears on TV whenever Olympic season comes cuz she is the Home-cooking thief. so shame.
How can she enjoyed being first when she not deserved that gold ? Omg kim yuna literally made me crying watching that performance and she didn’t win?? Omg adelina should be embarrassed of herself for celebrating that gold medal in front of the crowd. Deep down everyone knows who’s the winner and who deserves it the most 🔥
After Sochi, Adelina Sotnikova said I was stronger technically than Yuna and Carolina, and I'll also prove that I deserved the gold. However, she just ran away after placing the 6th in both russian nationals and golden spin of zagreb. She probably realized that she can not get near score at Sochi anymore. The reason why I don't like her although the result wasn't her fault is 'she has no conscience'. Shame on corrupted ISU, Russia and Sotnikova.
I know, and notice how she was grinning from ear to ear backstage even before Yuna's scores had been posted in the freeskate, and how she ran up, and hugged that judge. I think she knew ahead of time it was rigged in her favor.
We are not blind. Even though it has been years already, we still know that Yuna Kim was the real winner. "There was slight miscue in the end." Comment by the speaker for Adelina Sotnikova.
Yuna were supposed to be alongside Sonja and Katarina, being the third woman in the history of FS to win a gold medal defending her title, Carolina were supposed to get her silver and Gracie were supposed to get her bronze, but thanks to the Russia's corruption this was destroyed... What a shame.
For the benefit of all confused writers on this topic as well as for the general public let me clarify once and for all the facts concerning the scoring and show why Yuna Kim should have won gold. I will only address the scoring for the free program, although the scoring for the short program was also highly dubious and has attracted a lot of criticism. As is common knowledge, the free program score for each skater is the sum of their TES (technical element score) and their PCS (program component score), the two scores carrying roughly equal weight. The TES in turn is the sum of the base difficulty value for each of the twelve technical elements, e.g. a triple Lutz and the corresponding GOE (grade of execution) score. Now, each of the nine judges awards a grade, an integer from -3 to +3 for each technical element reflecting the quality of the execution. For every technical element, each of these values carries a specific numerical value, as determined by the ISU SoV (Scale of Value) chart. The highest and the lowest values are then discarded and the average is taken of the remaining seven values. This average is the GOE score for the element. Yuna Kim's TES comprised of a base difficulty score of 57.49 and a GOE score of 12.20 giving a total TES of 69.69. Adelina Sotnikova's base difficulty score of 61.43 and GOE score of 14.11 gave a total TES of 75.54. Before we start delving into the details of the scoring, we must mention that Kim's base score should have been higher to begin with. More details will be found below. Let's begin with Adelina's triple Lutz- triple toeloop (3L+3T) jump combination which was her first technical element of the program. A review has shown that she made an incorrect entry. It should have been made with a back outside edge, but hers wasn't (skaters call the mistake a "flutz"). This error carries a mandatory -0.7 GOE score but in fact she received a GOE score of +1.00. It turns out that one of the judges even gave her a base GOE score of +3.00 (remember that +3 is the highest GOE grade that can be awarded for each technical element). Furthermore, the second jump in the combination was under-rotated by more than a 1/4 turn. By ISU rules this means that the base value of the element should have been reduced by 30%, in this case by 1.80 points. Next, we recall that Sotnikova messed up the triple flip-double toeloop-double loop combination in the middle of her routine for which she received a 0.90 GOE deduction. ISU rules stipulate that a step-out (in this case a stumble) carries a mandatory unscaled 2 point deduction translating to a 1.40 GOE deduction. So we realise that she received 0.50 points more than she ought to have for the error, notwithstanding the fact that her wildly tilted axis of rotation for the double loop should have incurred an extra GOE penalty. So for the two jump combinations, Sotnikova received at least 4.00 GOE points MORE than she ought to have and this even before we begin the head-to-head comparisons of the technical elements. Be that as it may, we know that she received a GOE score of 14.01 for the remaining ten technical elements of the program. This is 2.81 points more than Yuna's GOE score for ALL of her twelve technical elements COMBINED. Except for the 3L+3T, NONE of the comparable jumps yielded Yuna a higher GOE score. This is very strange, as we recall that she executed them all flawlessly and especially as her jumps were cleaner with better mid air positioning and travelled further as well as being generally around 10cm higher off the ice than the Russian's. In the triple flip Adelina received a GOE of +1.50 whereas Yuna received only +1.20. It is worth noting that in this jump the Russian pre-rotated by nearly 180 degrees whereas the Korean did not pre-rotate at all, a fact which should have resulted in a swing of GOE points in the latter's favour. In the triple Salchow, Adelina received a GOE of +1.20 whereas Yuna received +0.90. Replay shows that Adelina's jump was again rather poor, hardly rising above the ice. For the double axel, Adelina received a GOE of +1.07, whereas Yuna received +0.79, this in spite of the Korean jumping towards the end of the program for which there is a 10% GOE bonus. For the layback spin, Adelina received a GOE of +1.07, with Yuna receiving +0.64. For the change foot combination spin, Adelina received a GOE of +1.21, with Yuna receiving only +0.71. No right thinking person would therefore deny that Yuna's GOE scores in all of the above categories should at the very least match the Russian's, if not exceed by a significant margin. Even if we are extremely generous to Adelina and we match the GOE scores for the comparable elements above, simple arithmetic shows that Yuna's TES should already be increased by at least 1.81points. Furthermore, Yuna received a LOWER GOE for the triple Lutz- triple toeloop combination (+1.60) than in all of her previous international competitions. As was clear to see, it was executed perfectly. It merited a GOE of at least +2.00 as it has done throughout her career. It is also worth noting that in the choreographed sequence for which they both received +1.50, the Russian almost lost her balance towards the end. Let us now consider the step sequence GOE marks for which Adelina received +1.70 (level 4) and Yuna +1.14 (level 3). Now, this is where the rigging truly came into its own and I will explain why later. For each of the non-jump elements, the panel decides the level of difficulty, which is an integer between 1 and 4. Now a higher level earns a higher base difficulty score. However, in the case of the step sequence, a higher level not only earns a higher base score but crucially, also a HIGHER GOE. Let me be more specific- suppose one step sequence is deemed to be a level 3 and another a level 4. An award of +3 GOE grade to both attempts in fact translates to +2.1 GOE points for the latter but only +1.5 GOE for the former and +2 GOE grade translates to +1.4 GOE and +1.0 GOE respectively. It turns out that Yuna was given only a level 3 whereas Adelina a level 4. This was also highly questionable- even a casual observer would have noticed that the Russian was somewhat shaky in her footwork and noticeably less assured than the Korean. Impartial judges would have therefore, at the very minimum, awarded Yuna with the same level and the GOE score as her Russian counterpart for the step sequence. With all of the above points taken into consideration, simple arithmetic shows that Yuna's TES should have been increased by at least 2.97 points. Add to this the further mandatory 4.00 Base Value point deduction Adelina's should have received for the jump errors and we end up with a total swing of 6.97 points. Now, the difference in the final scores between the two skaters was 5.48 points. Hence merely on the basis of a minimal correction to the TES alone, Yuna Kim should have been crowned as Olympic champion. Next, consider the PCS (program component score) which evaluates the artistic merit of the program. Five categories are assessed: skating skills, transition, performance/execution, choreography and interpretation. Each is marked out of 10, averaged and then multiplied by a factor of 1.6. Sotnikova scored an average of 9.30 out of 10 to give a PCS of 74.41, including a mark of 9.50 for choreography. This is compared to Yuna Kim's PCS of 74.50. Again, any impartial observer will agree that Yuna Kim's performance in all of the five categories above was of a far superior quality, especially in the choreography and interpretation sections. That Sotnikova got to within 0.09 of Kim in the PCS is simply ludicrous. Let me finish by addressing the one unresolved question alluded to above, namely how is it possible that Kim's base difficulty TES score for the step sequence was manipulated. The answer lies not with the judges but with the technical controller and his two assistants who ALONE have the authority to set the difficulty level of the spins, the step and the spiral sequences. It turns out that the controller was a Russian, Alexander Lakernik, who was the former vice president of the Russian figure skating federation and that the assistant technical specialist was a former Russian, Olga Baranova, who apparently just so happened to be a former skating coach of Sotnikova. So all this leads to just one inescapable conclusion- that Yuna Kim was robbed of her rightful Olympic gold medal in Sochi. And such has been the subtlety and skill with which the scoring was massaged that many commentators have yet to grasp exactly how the manipulation took place.
I didn't watch the Olympics after losing my gold medal. I cried a lot and felt sorry for Kim Yuna. I don't know why it's a silver medal even though it's a drug ban in Korea.
Olympics channel, this is a CRIME not to mention Asada's LP! She had the best routine of day, she made history again, and even without being on the podium she claimed to be such an athlet and to have the perfect Olympic spirit.
we are not judges, but we are not blind
Pudgy Pudge You know what，your judge Alla knows nothing about ice dance but sits as a judge. This is said by one of your Russian coaches. What an easy way to be a judge since you are the wife of the president of RSU lol.
@Pudgy Pudge apparently you don't know meaning of the word, blind
@Pudgy Pudge u shameless silly goose :^
R. E. Apparently you are dumb
@R. E. Apparently you don't know what fair and justice means.
Real podium:
1. Yuna Kim
2. Carolina Koster
3. Gracie Gold
To Max Montiel: May be, your dream about 'real podium' came true, if the Russian girl was not there! But, fortunately, she was there and she won!!!
Nata you are right !
as if sotnikova are suited goldenmedalist , she will show appropriate result at pyung chang
haha
Let's see her ~~
almost all of country except Russia and Korea have thought Russia always get golden medal in rude way
we are worried about next fuxx worldcup
Nata, but she almost fall, how was that possible with Yuna's amazing performance?
Max Montiel nothing you say will take away the fact that she won gold hahaha take this L
Daniel Tupikov he can take that W for not cheating....
Podieom level
1.Yuna kim - gold
2.Carolinar kostner - silver
3.Gracie Gold - bronze
Oh yeah? DDDD Guess you are KOREAN? DDDD
Natalia Safina a shameless russian
kairosena get off you pathetic loser
@118336130805003708035 get off you idiot and learn how to speak ENGLISH so people would understand!
***** Can't you READ? I've already told you to get off. I'm not going to react to any of your butthurt comments anymore. Just f... off.
it's ridiculous how Yuna's program is "near perfect" and "wasn't enough" when Adelina messed up.
@Sym Brown YES!!! eat that wrong edge, two foot landing, downgraded toe axel, junior step sequence level2, and prerotated from ur idol soCHEATkova
@Sym Brown she didn't lol
@@shalowa.j6412 She didn't execute a perfect program in terms of technical execution, but she did execute a nearly perfect program artistically. The problem is that the scoring system values difficulty much more than it values artistry, and Kim's program was relatively safe: Of the top 3, she was the only one whose "base points" were below 60 (and all the athletes have complete control over what their base points are-so she knew going in that she would have a deficit) ... so she made up a lot with artistry, but not enough.
@@DanielFolsom whatever it is, all in all, in conclusion, yuna kim may not be perfect but adelina was way worse than the other three figure skater program. Lol
@@imnbatrisyia4377 The problem was that Sotnikova was given scores she did not deserve. Kim, Kostner and Gold were robbed of their rightful placements and medals. All for the sake of giving Russia its first gold medal in the women's individual event, so pathetic. And everyone knows that Russia was all for Lipnitskaia, but she had fallen, so they had to get behind Sotnikova.
I think this is a shame in the history of figure skating in the Olympics.
There were no Ls to be had, it's a classic case of Russian corruption. Shaking my head at these delusional Ruskies thinking Sotnikova what's-her-name deserved that tainted medal. Convince yourself all you want honey, it'll make you feel better. P.S. Europe doesn't want you . Please extricate yourself from this continent.
@@thechosenonedaniel the korean username you replied to didn't even write this comment. stop c+p your stupid reply everywhere shameless russian
@RisingSunCountry omg japanese
yuna deserved the gold medal!!
Dede Fridayantara Wayan go cry yourself to sleep and take this L
@@thechosenonedaniel no
@@thechosenonedaniel hmmm i guess you'd prefer a program that has more mistakes than a nice clean program. gotcha
Real champion Yuna Queen..
Do not dream: the Real Champion is Adelina Sotnikova!
Nata fake Olympic Champion is Adelina
anyyou79 go cry yourself to sleep and take this L
Daniel Tupikov Seems like you love copy pasting your own comments huh??? It's ok , you're the only one defending cheatsnikova.
@이재서 adelina is a loser!!!!
The worst figure competition ever.. Yuna, you are a really winner
I agree with you. I'm not impressed on Sotnikova at all. :( ... Yuna and Mao Asada is the better than her..
Samara R.
look i was right .. yuna country ppl vote lol ..... bt actually its past n Sotnikova is winner now ... все решено!
Well, It's a good lesson learn to Yuna. Sometime life is not fair and she should improve next time. I'm not sure what you meant about "Yuna country ppl vote" ; I'm not Korean but I like to watch this sport and I would like to see anyone who can win Yuna that should be greater than Sotnikova.
i understand you .... mostly their vote is rude .... like they say .... n think we say rude things abt yuna but always i see their the 1rst
yh she will improove next time .. she is also nice skater
The Sochi scandal produced one of the most controversial moments in figure skating history. t’s like watching the great boxing legend Mohammed Ali knock a competitor out and losing the match. It was this ridicules. Adelina did have 1 more triple than Yuna, but Yuna had 1 more double than Adelina which makes the total jump rotation a difference of only 1 rotation. Yuna had 2-triple Lutz jumps in her routine, Adelina attepmted 1 and had a wrong edge which means she tecnically had 0 Triple Lutz.
The GOE (Grade of Execution) is given from a scale of -3 to +3 for each element. This is where Yuna Kim would excel as her jumps had better height, dept and speed throughout. But it appears the judges gave Adelina positive GOE for the error in the Lutz and the step out in the combination which makes no sense at all. Adelina scored more +3 than Yuna, Mao and Carolina combined. One element where Adelina should get slightly higher marks would be the spins. Adelina spins are terrific as he shows great flexibility and speed. Her spins are innovated and mesmerizing to watch. The 3 spins Adelina performed had a base value of 9.4 points, but Yuna was also 9.4. The Spins are one element that Adelina has an edge over Yuna but the base values are the same and this wouldn’t play a factor because Yuna Kim trumps Adelina in the other departments: Jumps, Skating Skills, Transitions, Performance, Choreography and Interpretation. With a huge advantage, it’s clearly easy to see why Yuna Kim should have had a higher score and claimed her 2nd Olympic gold medal.
To Beky: It is such a "pity", that judges did not ask your opinion and put Adelina Sotnikova on the first place!!!
Marisa Fumagalli Adelina Sotnikova is a winner. It is rather objective. I believe judges, this is judges decision.
The most precise comment about the Sochi Scandal. Let's spread this out so everyone will know. 😘😘😘
@@nata3116 You believe the judges who can't judge.They get paid to do that but look, people still talk about it after so many years that's because the judges couldn't judge. If a regular person can spot that Yuna did a better job than the Russian people wouldn't be saying anything about the judges' decision. But they didn't do their job properly so they should be ashamed of themselves.
Suji Pollard seems nata trying so hard how many sotnikova pay you nata hahahah she is in every comment like duh
Why did adelina win gold again? No matter how many times i watch her performance, its still no match to kim yuna's. I mean, kim yuna's performance is just PERFECT!!! While adelina's just... just... just.... a skating routine. Its blah.
Apparently, Adelina facial expressed more emotion in her freeskate compared to Yuna is what some may say. Adelina clearly did not have a perfect freekskate while Yuna was near perfection. And Yuna expressed her emotion through her skating without all the extra gimmicks/distractions, yet, some say it was 'boring'.
As for the controversial results, "this is just happens in figure skating" some have said. Well, if this is what typically happens in figure skating, then thank you for reminding me why I've lost interest and in respect in this sport.
CANDICE PERKINS No, Yuna's expression was within her skating. She didn't need all that add'l gimicks or distractions. She simply skated with a more subtle passion, poetry, and flawless beauty. A different type of entertainment--almost reminding and telling the story of the lost art/meaning in figure skating.
Adelina freeskated purely to entertain which I was for a moment, but it was Kim Yuna's performance that I will remember for ages (for the right reason) and remember Adelina (for the wrong reason) as one of the most controversial I've seen. This Olympics in figure skating could've been one of the most memorable, but unfortunately, it's been tainted by the inflated results.
This is a case of where QUANTITY of jumps tarnished the QUALITY in figure skating. Such a shame.
В ФК, две оценки техника и красота исполнения, две но они сливаются во едино! После многочисленных скандалов на многих ОИ, существо приняли новые правила и каждый выполненный элемент получал свою оценку, в сумме это баллы! Так вот по баллам выиграла Сотникова! Вот а танцах все основные соперники Нашей пары признали, что самая серьезная программа была у них, но они ошиблись в элементах ,результат они на третьем месте! И зрелищность тут не причем! Красота + техника! Таковы правила!
The ice queen YUNA!
Honest and Beautiful Silver Medal is better than a Greed and Dirty Gold Medal.
Rushdifa Khan So, lots of Russian athletes can't come to Rio 2016 because of the drug. Be shame on your nation :)
whatever, ill still be proud . any problems ? dude ;) Lee Junewoo
To Lee Junewoo: Fortunately, this is just your opinion, nothing else! Judges do not agree with you!!!
WE alllll know that the judges cheated so seriously just stop it
@@nata3116 Yeah look those shameless judges shouldnt be judges. They need to have morals and self respect honestly. It was so clear that Yuna performed better than that Russian. They need to know what justice and fairness is. We're in 2020 and people are still talking about it so it was clear that the judges stuffed up.
Under-rotating, pre-rotating, wrong edge jumps... and some people say she's a better techinical skater. What a joke.
And to those who keep referring to that NYT article, the photos were manipulated and the article doesn't even compare the scores properly.
Gulnara Ah Koy Kim's spiral isn't poor. It's decent. And if I remember correctly Kostner held it for roundabouts the same period.
And please don't bring Kwan in this discussion- she's a great from the previous era. Rules were different back then, but admittedly her spirals were amazing
So where is Adelina now? Got cocky since you won Gold Medal once? I heard you got 59th place in some figure skating competition? What a joke. I felt bad for you at first because of all the hate you got due to the judges unfair scoring, but you just had to rub salt and say in your interview that you were better than Yeona. What a big joke. I feel bad for your talent.
Where did u see that??
typical Russian athletes.. besides they are not just cocky athletes but they are a doping nation.
It's not her fault. In fact, I think she also was negatively affected by her gold medal. Everybody, and I mean, everybody knows she didn't deserve it. In fact, I think she knows too.
Putin and the commies prob would erase her and the whole family if she says otherwise.
I DM her on instagram that Yuna is the winner and guess what? She blocked me lololol glad that she read my DM 😏
A joke.
There is no doubt that Adelina is a marvellous, very promising young girl. but the questions that still remain a month after the competition.
1.How has Sotnikova's PCS increased by a total of almost 20 points (counting both short and free skates) in a space of 2months?
2. Why didn't judges mark wrong edge on her FLUTZ(Wrong edge)
3.That her 3T was under-rotated by 1/4 or 1/2 was visible even to the naked eye without the slow-motion replay. And as has been pointed out above, there should have been further deduction for her wrong edge along with the deduction for the under-rotation. Instead she was awarded plus GOE for the combination. Furthermore, 3T requires skaters to use the toe pick during the take off. Instead, Sotnikova used the full blade to jump off the ice?
a completely wrong and improper jumping technique.
4.She stepped out of the double loop and two-footed the landing. It seriously disrupted the flow of the jump. In addition, her rotation in the air was shaky. According to guidelines given by ISU, such mistake (two footed landing in particular) merits -2 to -3 level of GOE. But the penalty given was only at -0.9. Even if the judges had decided that -2 level of GOE would be sufficient, the point deducted would have been at least 1.4.
5.How did she get the step level 4 in both short and free programs?(while Yuna got level 3. It should have been completely opposite)
6.How was her low-grade flip awarded the higher GOE than Yuna's
7. Only 1.44 difference in the base value! It is the actual execution of those jumps and judges’ perception of their quality that determine the marks, not the plan on the paper. It has already been said that Sotnikova’s executions of technical elements were not the cleanest on the night. But GOE given to her is something you would see given to perfectly executed elements.
And the question still remains after 6 years.
@@ennieannie6027 It has been ten years now. I still wonder if we will ever find out who was behind this judging and if anyone will be the whistleblower and reveal the truth. If that ever happens, Yuna Kim will get her second Olympic Gold. I highly doubt that Adelina would get her medal taken away, but her win would become incredibly embarrassing and humiliating in Russia.
@@olivialau88 ???? It's been 7 years what are you smoking LOL
@@pink_water_melon Obviously, it was a typo. If that's the only thing you cared about out of everything I wrote, then so be it. You can easily do the math for yourself.
@@olivialau88 How is it a typo? "ten" is not even close to "seven" ? It's not a big deal, I was just reading through comments and it struck me that you had rounded up 7 to 10, hence my response. Nothing hostile, just legitimately cracked me up
TWO TIME OLYMPIC CHAMPION YUNA KIM 🎉🥇
Yuna’s performance was a perfection. No mistakes, just perfect. Y’all judges need to be slapped cuz I’m mad asf
I think Yuna did a wonderful job.
Yuna :Gold Medal Skater
Adelina:Gold Medal Stealer
what a shame result of IOC, ISU and Russia
Это вам позор! Не умеете проигрывать! Смиритесь! Победила Аделина. потому что у нее была сложнее программа!
biased)) you can blame only ISU if you think judgement was bad
To Oka rus: Я с вами полностью согласна! Очень неприятно читать комментарии этих "великих знатоков" фигурного катания! Никак не могут осознать, что антироссийская пропаганда, которой они с удовольствием внимают, не имеет ничего общего с действительностью.
YUNA KIM IS THE REAL REAL REAL CHAMPION!!!! - FROM 2021 UNTIL FOREVER - 😌
149.95 for Adelina(in Sochi 2014), 150.06 for Yuna(in Vancouver 2010). What a hilarious.
@@Rachel-sd2kj now every open eyed figure skating fans hate Russia
The gold medal must be sad to meet the improper owner.
In a way, this makes Yuna’s legend even greater. She knew she was the real winner and acted like a true champion. People are not blind and everyone knew what was going on. Yuna knew another gold medal would not affect her legacy and this brought more attention to her greatness. I would have loved if she actually got the gold but everyone knows what happened.
Two Time Olympic Champion Yuna!!!!
To everybody, who does not want to admit the fair(!) reality: Adelina Sotnikova is a winner! She is a champion!
Yuzuru Hanyu’s Pooh-San woah, wait really? Yikess
@@nata3116 what? Did u see Adelina “Lutz”? And her 2nd level step sequence? How it can be better than the amazing program of Yuna Kim? Your comment is a big Joke man
@Yuzuru Hanyu’s Pooh-San What is Wikipedia? Just somebody's opinion! Do you always trust it? I do not!
@@marianagutierrezcarrillo4357 For some time now, the judges prefer to underestimate the assessment of Russian skaters, rather than overestimate. In this case, if the judges decided that Adeline won, then she won.
So Kim Yuna skated perfectly so she’s in 2nd place, Carolina Kostner and Gracie Gold skated with their heart and without any errors and they get third and fourth.... So Adelina Sotnikova has a flat edge on a Flutz, two feet landing, under rotations and skated ‘ok’ and gets first. Not to mention the Gala horror. And people are okay with this? Why don’t we do something to ban ISU?
Bebe IKR??? Sotnikova should have been rejudged. How did she receive such high marks on PCS unbelievable.
Everyone who knows the figure skating knows who is the real champion. wtf
Not most of the Russians tho. They still think adelina deserved that gold haha
@@zylffinn9455 Even Alexandra Trusova (current Olympic silver medallist and quad revolutionist in women's figure skating) thinks Adelina deserved that gold in one of her older interviews
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I still cannot understand why judges did not deduct points of wrong edged jumps that they always have deducted right before this home cooking Olympic games.
how ridiculous that result is....
1. Carolina is always been a goddes
2. Yuna Is the gold medal, I don't recognize the judges scores
3. They have ruined Adelina forever with this. She will always be remembered just for this robbery and not her real talent.
4. Gracie deserved more too
5. Have I mentioned Carolina immense artistry on ice?
yuna kim is gold
+ke lee нет
@@DukRishele da
3:03 it says it all.
Don’t forget about the flat edge on her triple lutz that didn’t get called
What the heck is she doing there..lol
she landed on two feet 🤦♀️
Sherry T two feet queen 👑
real podium
1 Kim Yuna
2 Carolina Kostner
3 Adelina Sotnikova
Correct
Real podium:
1. Carolina Kostner
2. Adelina Sotnikova
3. Yuna Kim
Bye!
권은정 No, Yuna should get the bronze medal. She landed only SIX triples and the second Lutz was really underrotated. You wanting or not, Adelina had a harder program than Yuna, and the only mistake was in a 2Lo, so the silver medal woud be fair. I'm not fan of Carolina Kostner, but she was the most perfect in the Olys. Her FS, aside Mao Asada, was the most difficult and she executed perfectly. She should get the GOLD medal, not Yuna. And Yuna's jumps aren't so good as in Vancouver, she lost height and ice coverage. Adelina Sotnikova has good jumps yes, her jumps have a monstrous height and are good rotated. Let's be real, both of them are good and Yuna didn't fall from heaven.
André C. B. I'm sorry, Adelina's Lutz was jumped in wrong edge which was INSIDE EDGE FOR SURE, and the second 3T was under-rotated definitely. And a single mistake must make huge deduction of PCS which she did not. There's no way to describe her score gap between European Champ and the Olympic game. Adelina is NOTHING W/OUT RUSSIAN FEDERATION. By the way, Adelina has one of the terrible jump position ever just like Mao's. However, I do agree that Carolina deserves to be the champion. If that event wasn't hosted in Russia, Adelina would probably be in around 5th place or something, the same to Lipnitskaya.
Serena416 Yuna Kim doesn't deserve gold and did a weak program for the level of the competition, it's all. Adelina Sotnikova won like Yuna won in Vancouver with a shocking inflated score (Yuna Kim FS Pesonal Best before Vancouver: 133.95. After Vancouver: 150.06). And, sorry,but Mao Asada has one of the most beautiful rotations in the air and her edge jumps are perfectly executed.
KIM YUNA IS THE REAL GOLD MEDAL!!!!
Let’s clap for the wrong edged, under rotated, pre-rotated, double footed “Olympic champion" who has dispersed in the history of this sport while Yuna Kim, Carolina, Mao have become a legends.
yuna kim look like an angel
long live the queen
Yuna Kim has always been known as the total package - superior technically AND artistically (Scott Hamilton said she is an "Phenom") but after the 2014 Russian Olympic games her technical ability has been downplayed yet her programs were good enough to win the GOLD.
Unfortunately, figure skating is now (see NBC's reviews) just about "attempting" more jumps so perhaps they should just get rid of component scores and grade of execution.
The Ice Queen Yuna!
Justice for Yuna!
Sotnikova got a gold medal mainly because she was overscored by Russian judges!! So when will we see her be back at competition again? Who could answer that?
irene.angelina I feel bad for her. Yh she won gold but now her career competitive fs is over. Her reputation outside of Russia is ...
@@yellomelon2450 She honestly put that on herself. She felt no shame after the competition. She was arrogant saying that she deserved the gold medal (when she clearly didn't). Like its pretty clear that if people are talking about it to this day how Yuna should've won. Sotnikova never deserved that gold medal.
Stop daydreaming!!!
She just retired after winning the gold. Never win first place after her SOCHI moment receiving that ROBBED GOLD.
What I don't like about this report is that the commentator is only talking about the jumps. Figure Skating has many other elements than just jumps. There are spins and spirals and foot work, etc.
Adelina's strength lies in her athleticism, not her artistry or finesse; it was likely the only positive thing the commentator could say - "look at the elevation of her jumps."
дада ,и именно в спиралях и дорожках Аделина тоже сильна. все ее спины 4 уровня! посмотрите программу ! все супер и у нее свои спины. которые не делают другие и прыжки высокие и качественные! корейки. учитесь прыгать и перестаньте фигурное катание балетом называть, да и не спите на льду, скучно. фу
I couldnt agree more
two-time olympic champion, kim yuna! we love you and know you're the real winner
@@NoLagHerehaters stay hating after 10 years honestly not surprised
Dogtnikova is robot. But Yu Na Kim is art.
+Dossen A Please watch other people's letter.
+Dossen A oh really? You just prove that you're an idiot, poor human being, moron
Jay Dawson no mother...
Dossen A That's why Yuna is always talked about and was even in the opening ceremony? What is Adelina doing? Scratching her croth???
Dossen A Go back to doping you ugly weak bot. We all rejoiced when you fuckers got banned from the 2018 olympics! 😈😈😈
The one who win the gold medal is mean she's just win. But the one who win the silver medal is mean the world. Yuna win the gold medal already so she's already the queen. I will never forget her performance.
well said! totally agreed!
The gold medal she stole from Yuna wasn’t gold anymore just yellow medal. Yuna queen deserves gold medal.
Here we are once again watching the corruption of judging on the biggest international stage of figure skating! The correct ladies ended up on the podium, but the order needs to be reconsidered. Adelina showed a lot of athletic talent and major potential for more great things to come. She was totally worthy of a bronze medal, and considering the talented veterans and youngsters she was up against, that's a great achievement. With Yuna, Carolina, and Mao looking to retire, we needs great young talent like Adelina (and Julia, Gracie, ect.) to carry on the sport. And I really don't want to rag on Sontikova too much for her annoying yet totally predicable attitude when it comes to her gold medal (if you want to compare her post olympic interviews about her controversial win to that of athletes involved in any other sport in similar situations, Adelina was actually pretty polite, even at her worst), but I fear that the same type of corrupt judging that we saw in Sochi will keep her from winning big contests outside of Russia when she is ready to demonstrate gold level skating. What a ridiculous waste, all around! I love figure skating, but the ISU needs to fix this issue, because it's been out of control for far too long, and new new judging system seems to making the component inflating, which is one of the easiest places for judges to cheat, worse than ever.
If you haven't already read it, former ISU rule maker, referee, critic of the new judging system, and fighter of corruption in judging, Sonia Bianchetti Garbato, has written a great short essay on the subject of the 2014 Olympic games that I suggest people read. It's a level headed bit of fresh air in the face of this competition, which has stirred up quite a bit of emotion. It's similar to the now famous Dick Button tweet, but it goes into a bit more detail:
www.soniabianchetti.com/writings_sochi2014.html
I'd also recommend reading her bit on the Europeans, which gives the hint that geo-political bias was to rear it's ugly head in Sochi as it has in so many major figure skating events before it:
"In Budapest, it was a general opinion among many coaches, officials and judges that Carolina was definitely undermarked. There is no doubt that both Julia and Adelina are marvelous, very promising young girls, technically fantastic, but at a sidereal distance from Carolina as far as the interpretation of the music, the body movement and the choreography are concerned."
www.soniabianchetti.com/writings_europeans2014.html
Actually, I recommend all her writings, she has a great insight on this sport.
I know I'm 7 years late, but thanks for this! Will look into it.
2:57 - a blatant underrotation + two footed landing is more than a "miscue". We all know her program was far from perfect and that Yuna Kim should've won gold.
No one cares now that Adelina won because we're all in favour of Yuna anyways!
THE LIKE TO DISLIKE RATIO HAS ME SCREAMING !! we all know it should have been queen yuna winning gold, carolina getting silver and Gracie getting bronze :/
Long live the QUEEN YUNA.
Rushdifa Khan You looks much older. How disgusting!
Да здравствует новая королева Аделина!!!! юная и сильная! адиос юна. бывшая королева. скорее только для корейцев. для меня она никогда не была ей
nickola piterskiy
hope you're proud of her Fake Gold. it was never in the league with the Honest Gold like your Yagudin in 2002. I can't believe how the Russians, who used to be so dominant in the figure skating world, became so deteriorate in their expectations. i mean, you Russians really think Adelina's performance is in the level of gold medal?? have you even tried to check into all the scores in SP and FS? Adelina and Yulia's scores were outrageously overscored left and right. they did't even give wrong edge to Adelina and her certain scores were even HIGHER than Yuna. LMAO???? let alone Mao, too. PURE SOCHEAT joke they were pulling...DEMENTED AND SAD
+nickola piterskiy First of all, I am not Korean. I gotta say tho, that only Russians see Adelina as their queen, but she is NOT a queen to people from all over the world. Yuna Kim will forever be remembered with good words. She is an icon in the sport who will be talked about for many years to come in a positive manner of people from different backgrounds. Yuna's legacy will live forever. Her Sochi silver shines 10x brightly than your Adelina's 'gold' because Russia was too hungry and desperate for a win in ladies figure skating. Your Adelina will NOT be cherished, and will be forgotten.
The ratio of likes and dislikes speak who's the real winner.
Yuna Queen…The real champion!!!!! 🤫🤫
The Russian audience were just awful that night. So rude to Yuna. All they care about is there dirty gold and not even clapping. Even some of the well known skaters said it was dull when Yuna was performing. Just plain rude and can't wait for Adelina and Yulia come to Korea 2018. None of you are getting gold there smh.
I didn't say it because they were Russians. They genuinely have no chance because they're not skating in their hometown or it's not an European championship. Unless Adelina fixes her flutz and change her program with harder jumps and lvl 4 step sequence and learn a better technique, then yeah she has a chance. But right now she doesn't. and i dont care about that yulia girl.
puddingmaster2 yeah I doubt south Korea will be that disrespectful to Russia. Russia is just on another level of scum.
And now Russian skaters are winners of Olympic games 2018 😂😂 Zagitova and Medvedeva. Shame on you
Actually Russian girl won the gold medal again😂 But this time Zagitova deserves this champion, Sotnikova was quite a thief and loser.
Lol now the Russians are banned from the Olympics. Karma huh
1st. Yuna Kim
2st. Kostner
3rd. Gracie Gold
Accoridng to technical score,Sotnikova's long program is difficult than Yuna Kim. But she didn't do it well. [Unstable landing(Two-feet landing), Flutz jump(cheating lutz jump by using inside edge(must be judged Wrong edge), Under-rotation, step-level..]
Then Yuna Kim's short program was more difficult than Sotnikova . And the score was almost same. How do you explain this based on your 'difficult program' theory? Yuna Kim didn't make a mistake. (long&short program) And what about Mao Asada? She did 3A and triple combo in her FS) Should she won the free program? No,
Figure skating is not Jumping competetion. In terms of jumps, the russian's technic is coarse though.
The one thing you have to know is that a lot of successive gold medalist won the competition without many jumps than silver medalist. The Important thing is not the quantity but the quality of jump!
Please explain how Yuna Kim's perfect, clean program was scored less than Sotnikova's program where she made so many mistakes!
Like even comparing Sotnikova's program to Kostner's doesn't make sense!
Russian stole Queen's gold medal
They're too embarrassed to even have the women's full free program up for us to watch.
😂 shame on the ISU
Am I the only one that saw the change of edge going into the 3Lz+3T?!
No, I saw that too and she should have gotten an edge call for it but for some weird reason she didn't. I really wonder why... ;)
dirty gold medal, it so clearly to see that
um.. sotnikova had one more triple jump but kim had one more double, so their base score was only 1.4 different, and if i explain logically without any artistically scores, kim should've one b/c sotnikova landed two footed once and didn't land correctly on the second. so sotnikova fans, plz stop arguing. even without this fact, everyone knows the real result...
won*
We all know this is not the real podium lmao. Here's my personal evaluation: Carolina had the best short, while Mao had the best, most challenging free skate (that 3A? hello.) Both of Caro's programs were fantastic and are definitely the highlight of her career, as is Mao's free, but unfortunately her short wasn't clean. Yuna had amazing skates that were both clean and elegant but they weren't as energetic and expressive as her Vancouver performances and they weren't more enjoyable that Caro and Mao's short and free for me personally. Gracie Gold has amazing jumps and is overall a very powerful skater, so my top 3 would be: 1. Caro, 2. Yuna, 3. Between Mao and Gracie, but most likely goes to Mao because I don't think the mistakes on her short are enough to discredit that incredible free.
Should have been YUNA for Gold!!! QUEEN YUNA!!
The history of Russian women's figure skating doping begins here.
Real champion is Yuna Kim!
Sotnikova deserves a copper medal
a plastic would suit her better
it’s 2022 and i’m still not over how they robbed queen yuna of her gold
Sotnikova deserves the gold medal of comedy.
Yuna shined brighter than the gold that night and that Russian skater doesn't even have a tiny bit of shame to actually say that she was better than yuna. Smh
Even Olympics knows who is the real champion......
Shame on the judges
I think Adelina spends the rest of her life with distress. So many people talk about this ridiculous event untill she dies and... even in many years she apears on TV whenever Olympic season comes cuz she is the Home-cooking thief.
so shame.
Long live the Queen(YUNA)! Perfection!!
How can she enjoyed being first when she not deserved that gold ? Omg kim yuna literally made me crying watching that performance and she didn’t win?? Omg adelina should be embarrassed of herself for celebrating that gold medal in front of the crowd. Deep down everyone knows who’s the winner and who deserves it the most 🔥
She deserved 3rd, Yuna 1st clearly, Also Mao should have scored the best in the free style.
Kostner deserved Silver.
Mao did win the free skate, I believe. If she had done better in the short program, Mao would have won gold.
luvmuzik4me Not if the (Russian) judges had anything to do with it. Only if it wasn't in Sochi, the results would've been much different.
The Judges were International, only one judge was Russian. You will have to blame all of the International judges, not just the Russian.
After Sochi, Adelina Sotnikova said I was stronger technically than Yuna and Carolina, and I'll also prove that I deserved the gold. However, she just ran away after placing the 6th in both russian nationals and golden spin of zagreb. She probably realized that she can not get near score at Sochi anymore. The reason why I don't like her although the result wasn't her fault is 'she has no conscience'. Shame on corrupted ISU, Russia and Sotnikova.
Thanks for the info. I completely agree that she has no conscience
I know, and notice how she was grinning from ear to ear backstage even before Yuna's scores had been posted in the freeskate, and how she ran up, and hugged that judge. I think she knew ahead of time it was rigged in her favor.
3:04 Is this gold?
Yuna, Karo, Gracie ❤️ the real podium.
We are not blind. Even though it has been years already, we still know that Yuna Kim was the real winner. "There was slight miscue in the end." Comment by the speaker for Adelina Sotnikova.
Yuna kim is a real champion.
Sotnikova was seen hugging the Russian judge afterwards. It seems inappropriate.
The moment that figure skating is dead
Yuna were supposed to be alongside Sonja and Katarina, being the third woman in the history of FS to win a gold medal defending her title, Carolina were supposed to get her silver and Gracie were supposed to get her bronze, but thanks to the Russia's corruption this was destroyed... What a shame.
Yuna kim is real champion~~👍👍👍
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For the benefit of all confused writers on this topic as well as for the general public let me clarify once and for all the facts concerning the scoring and show why Yuna Kim should have won gold. I will only address the scoring for the free program, although the scoring for the short program was also highly dubious and has attracted a lot of criticism.
As is common knowledge, the free program score for each skater is the sum of their TES (technical element score) and their PCS (program component score), the two scores carrying roughly equal weight. The TES in turn is the sum of the base difficulty value for each of the twelve technical elements, e.g. a triple Lutz and the corresponding GOE (grade of execution) score.
Now, each of the nine judges awards a grade, an integer from -3 to +3 for each technical element reflecting the quality of the execution. For every technical element, each of these values carries a specific numerical value, as determined by the ISU SoV (Scale of Value) chart. The highest and the lowest values are then discarded and the average is taken of the remaining seven values. This average is the GOE score for the element.
Yuna Kim's TES comprised of a base difficulty score of 57.49 and a GOE score of 12.20 giving a total TES of 69.69. Adelina Sotnikova's base difficulty score of 61.43 and GOE score of 14.11 gave a total TES of 75.54. Before we start delving into the details of the scoring, we must mention that Kim's base score should have been higher to begin with. More details will be found below.
Let's begin with Adelina's triple Lutz- triple toeloop (3L+3T) jump combination which was her first technical element of the program. A review has shown that she made an incorrect entry. It should have been made with a back outside edge, but hers wasn't (skaters call the mistake a "flutz"). This error carries a mandatory -0.7 GOE score but in fact she received a GOE score of +1.00. It turns out that one of the judges even gave her a base GOE score of +3.00 (remember that +3 is the highest GOE grade that can be awarded for each technical element). Furthermore, the second jump in the combination was under-rotated by more than a 1/4 turn. By ISU rules this means that the base value of the element should have been reduced by 30%, in this case by 1.80 points.
Next, we recall that Sotnikova messed up the triple flip-double toeloop-double loop combination in the middle of her routine for which she received a 0.90 GOE deduction. ISU rules stipulate that a step-out (in this case a stumble) carries a mandatory unscaled 2 point deduction translating to a 1.40 GOE deduction. So we realise that she received 0.50 points more than she ought to have for the error, notwithstanding the fact that her wildly tilted axis of rotation for the double loop should have incurred an extra GOE penalty. So for the two jump combinations, Sotnikova received at least 4.00 GOE points MORE than she ought to have and this even before we begin the head-to-head comparisons of the technical elements.
Be that as it may, we know that she received a GOE score of 14.01 for the remaining ten technical elements of the program. This is 2.81 points more than Yuna's GOE score for ALL of her twelve technical elements COMBINED. Except for the 3L+3T, NONE of the comparable jumps yielded Yuna a higher GOE score. This is very strange, as we recall that she executed them all flawlessly and especially as her jumps were cleaner with better mid air positioning and travelled further as well as being generally around 10cm higher off the ice than the Russian's. In the triple flip Adelina received a GOE of +1.50 whereas Yuna received only +1.20. It is worth noting that in this jump the Russian pre-rotated by nearly 180 degrees whereas the Korean did not pre-rotate at all, a fact which should have resulted in a swing of GOE points in the latter's favour.
In the triple Salchow, Adelina received a GOE of +1.20 whereas Yuna received +0.90. Replay shows that Adelina's jump was again rather poor, hardly rising above the ice. For the double axel, Adelina received a GOE of +1.07, whereas Yuna received +0.79, this in spite of the Korean jumping towards the end of the program for which there is a 10% GOE bonus. For the layback spin, Adelina received a GOE of +1.07, with Yuna receiving +0.64. For the change foot combination spin, Adelina received a GOE of +1.21, with Yuna receiving only +0.71.
No right thinking person would therefore deny that Yuna's GOE scores in all of the above categories should at the very least match the Russian's, if not exceed by a significant margin. Even if we are extremely generous to Adelina and we match the GOE scores for the comparable elements above, simple arithmetic shows that Yuna's TES should already be increased by at least 1.81points.
Furthermore, Yuna received a LOWER GOE for the triple Lutz- triple toeloop combination (+1.60) than in all of her previous international competitions. As was clear to see, it was executed perfectly. It merited a GOE of at least +2.00 as it has done throughout her career. It is also worth noting that in the choreographed sequence for which they both received +1.50, the Russian almost lost her balance towards the end.
Let us now consider the step sequence GOE marks for which Adelina received +1.70 (level 4) and Yuna +1.14 (level 3). Now, this is where the rigging truly came into its own and I will explain why later. For each of the non-jump elements, the panel decides the level of difficulty, which is an integer between 1 and 4. Now a higher level earns a higher base difficulty score. However, in the case of the step sequence, a higher level not only earns a higher base score but crucially, also a HIGHER GOE. Let me be more specific- suppose one step sequence is deemed to be a level 3 and another a level 4. An award of +3 GOE grade to both attempts in fact translates to +2.1 GOE points for the latter but only +1.5 GOE for the former and +2 GOE grade translates to +1.4 GOE and +1.0 GOE respectively. It turns out that Yuna was given only a level 3 whereas Adelina a level 4. This was also highly questionable- even a casual observer would have noticed that the Russian was somewhat shaky in her footwork and noticeably less assured than the Korean.
Impartial judges would have therefore, at the very minimum, awarded Yuna with the same level and the GOE score as her Russian counterpart for the step sequence.
With all of the above points taken into consideration, simple arithmetic shows that Yuna's TES should have been increased by at least 2.97 points. Add to this the further mandatory 4.00 Base Value point deduction Adelina's should have received for the jump errors and we end up with a total swing of 6.97 points.
Now, the difference in the final scores between the two skaters was 5.48 points. Hence merely on the basis of a minimal correction to the TES alone, Yuna Kim should have been crowned as Olympic champion.
Next, consider the PCS (program component score) which evaluates the artistic merit of the program. Five categories are assessed: skating skills, transition, performance/execution, choreography and interpretation. Each is marked out of 10, averaged and then multiplied by a factor of 1.6. Sotnikova scored an average of 9.30 out of 10 to give a PCS of 74.41, including a mark of 9.50 for choreography. This is compared to Yuna Kim's PCS of 74.50. Again, any impartial observer will agree that Yuna Kim's performance in all of the five categories above was of a far superior quality, especially in the choreography and interpretation sections. That Sotnikova got to within 0.09 of Kim in the PCS is simply ludicrous.
Let me finish by addressing the one unresolved question alluded to above, namely how is it possible that Kim's base difficulty TES score for the step sequence was manipulated. The answer lies not with the judges but with the technical controller and his two assistants who ALONE have the authority to set the difficulty level of the spins, the step and the spiral sequences. It turns out that the controller was a Russian, Alexander Lakernik, who was the former vice president of the Russian figure skating federation and that the assistant technical specialist was a former Russian, Olga Baranova, who apparently just so happened to be a former skating coach of Sotnikova.
So all this leads to just one inescapable conclusion- that Yuna Kim was robbed of her rightful Olympic gold medal in Sochi. And such has been the subtlety and skill with which the scoring was massaged that many commentators have yet to grasp exactly how the manipulation took place.
Sam J Could you please explain what happened in the SP too?
The clearest, most detailed and most educational explanation I've encountered by far. Thanks! Keep educating them! 😘😘😘
Adelina's atrocious attitude after she "won" kind of sealed the fact that it's a stolen gold medal that Kim Yuna should have gotten instead.
no one would concede that sucktnicoba a champ because we're all in favour of Yuna anyways
#sochiscandal
I didn't watch the Olympics after losing my gold medal. I cried a lot and felt sorry for Kim Yuna. I don't know why it's a silver medal even though it's a drug ban in Korea.
I really cannot believe that the uploader would upload one more video talking about the shame of figure skating history
Well done Adelina. You truly deserved the bronze medal 🥉
No. Gracie Gold deserved Bronze. Adelina deserved the 🚮.
Yuna was robbed.
Oh, Carolina too
It's just so wrong...
Adelina, so your happy now? For snagging the Gold Medal from Yuna Kim who is obviously better than you and ACTUALLY DESERVED the Gold Medal?
Olympics channel, this is a CRIME not to mention Asada's LP!
She had the best routine of day, she made history again, and even without being on the podium she claimed to be such an athlet and to have the perfect Olympic spirit.
agree with u.
Victor Gonçalves agreed
Overscorded adelina.
Yuna Kim is a true CHAMPION
Gold: Yuna
Silver: Carolina
Bronz: Gracie
4th: Mao
5th: Adelina
Gold for YUNA!!!!
NO DOUBT
I’M STILL HERE FOR YUNAAAA💗