@@Darrenj195 Who are you talking about racing in New Zealand pre-Covid, Kyle Larson??? If so, I had absolutely no idea that he was racing in other countries around the world. If you’re talking about SVG, I thought he was from NZ??? That’s why I’m assuming that you’re referring to KL. Also, if KL was racing down there, what was he racing? From a Texan to a Kiwi, have a great day!!!
They definitely don’t suck it’s just different racing. I hope NASCAR fans can tune in to watch Supercars in Townsville this weekend and see the racing Shane and the guys normally do on a street circuit. They fly off curbs on 2 wheels with one side of the car a couple of feet in the air and scrape mirrors on the wall. Seriously skilled drivers.
it's fantastic to watch. also Newcastle is a beautiful street race down the beach and gold Coast chicane is iconic , just ask McLaughlin ! shane stopped to see if he was OK. he's an alright bloke I guess 😂🇳🇿
I'm an avid NASCAR fan and attended the Chicago street race. Was mesmerized by SVG's performance. I've never watched Supercars but this week I've been binging old highlights and plan to start following the series because of SVG. Would love to see him run an oval sometime as that is definitely the wheelhouse of stock car racing. But what a driver he is!
The biggest problem we have here in the US is that they don't show V8 supercars live unless there's a channel or a website that will show the races. I only watch 8 minutes or so highlights on TH-cam :((
Oh yeah, I absolutely guarantee you he will!!! Kyle is one of a kind and he is ALWAYS looking for the smallest edge and any way he can improve on his own skills and add to his repertoire!!! But honestly, I really do like this SVG guy. He seems like a very talented and humble dude himself. One can only hope that he decides to make the move to the states and the jump to NASCAR after his contract is up that he is currently signed to. He even said, “he’d love to come drive NASCAR” in a year or so, or whatever it was, during his on-track, post race interview right after he had gotten out of the car.
@@DFWJon Yes i'm sure he would help out, they are both good guys for the sport in general, the upside to all of this is that SVG has a large fan base from NZ & Aussie, so lots like me are now following NASCAR, I would think the number would be in the 10s of thousands so that's gotta be good for NASCAR, I'm hooked, I even have to get up around 5am to watch it live here in NZ, now that I understand how it all works it is gr8, lovin it.
We Aussies don't think you guys suck his back in OZ ready to race this weekend and has never mentioned anything other than he enjoyed the experience he is a very humble guy with a lot of talent 🤘
I loved watching Marcos Ambrose race at Watkins Glen. That guy owned that track! I drove in Australia once and it was one of the coolest things I’ve experienced with the wheel on the opposite side!
@@kw5732 remember he made his name over here in our australian competition old mate not yours FYI I didn't say he was Australian whys that do you think being a kiwi that your better lol ! give me a break!
and on a street circuit where its about getting close to the wall and pushing the edge as far as she'll go, all whilst sitting on the other side of the car. he didn't even baconate it once. 😉🇳🇿
Not first time at all but yes he usually drives the “same car” a v8 super car on the opposite side of the vehicle .. he’s got so many odds against him he did well
@@jodypresti94 his rally car is left hand drive and so is the mercedes GT3 he drove to a win at bathurst, also drove a left hand drive car at le monds so not really the first time in a left hand drive car, but still what he did was amazing, coming to grip with a new car a new tyre just amazing
I think Larson is the only driver right now in NASCAR that could be ultra successful in other series. He's a solid wheelman. Think of JPM, Foyt, Mario, Gurney could win in NASCAR, IndyCar, SportsCar, F1. I think Kyle could be in that group of drivers who can win in anything.
What's makes it a !little more impressive is that he was sitting on the wrong side of the car and shifting with his right hand, normally his driving hand on his side of the world.
When Shane said he never raced with a spotter before, I about fell out of my chair. That shows you how good those guys are, no wonder he came over and whooped us!
They don’t suck and I know this is a first for some nascar drivers on a street track, but damn you could see the difference in the lines SVG was taking and he came from 18th at one stage to clean up. These are meant to be professional race car drivers and he made them look like novices. And did it cleanly on the wrong side of the car also. Congrats SVG !!
This was a first for nearly every regular NASCAR driver, racing on a street circuit. And they all have very little experience running in wet conditions, as until a couple years ago, even a little bit of rain would see a NASCAR race halted. And seeing as there has only been about 5 tracks each season where they could safely run in wet conditions, they haven't had a lot of chances to practice. Juan Pablo Montoya was a F1 and IndyCar winner yet he never won a NASCAR cup race on an oval. Because its an entirely different type of racing. Tony Stewart is one of the best drivers in recent years, and jumping into a drag car, he didn't immediately perform well, because of the difference in disciplines. They are all professional race car drivers, and like all professional race car drivers, they excel at some types of racing more than others.
@@TheTrueArchanum just curious as an American whats it got to do with the Aussies ? From what i understand if it wasnt for the Aussies he wouldnt have somewhere to show off his talent......
@Steve-jo3cl the series he competes in is based in australia. kinda like if suarez or a canadian came into nascar and won three titles. new zealand has its own legit sedan racing but the supercars series is the pinnacle sedan racing series in the australia-new zealand region.
How about I give the dude credit he should have had a massive that's all of the NASCAR drivers first road course race bring him on over to Talladega and let's see how he does are Bristol
I agree with Dale Jr. This was the most level playing field it could’ve been for him to come in and do this. It was a new track to everyone and like Shane said this was his bread and butter. Jr said if it were Watkins Glen or Sonoma where these guys run frequently he thinks the outcome would’ve been different and I’d have to say I agree with that statement
@@Adogsmate4267Im an Aussie and I've never visited NZ but from what I've seen your road conditions on average seem to be steeper narrower and windier. makes perfect sense to me. We have a lot of straighter wider and flatter roads😊
@@Adogsmate4267 I’m not saying he wouldn’t be good I’m just saying racing somewhere else these NASCAR guys race all the time might have evened the playing field a little
This!! The types of race tracks that make up the majority of the Aussie Supercars season breeds perfect drivers for this kind of track. Yeah, it might have been in the Americans' backyard, but this sort of racing for the Supercar driver is basically every round of the season.
SvG drove an amazing race. I think it showed whose of us who are NASCAR fans that there's a lot left in the Next Gen car in terms of what it can do on a road course.
As an Australian I'm so impressed at what great sports the NASCAR drivers are in recognising Gizzy's achievement here. Great people make for a great sport.
Good interviews of 2 class act racers right there! Not to mention talented.... I think that Shane's utilization of the clutch gave him an upper hand in the braking zones. I'm sure you're going to see more old school Ricky Rudd style road course racing from now on in Nascar.... he smoked em....
Basically no,NASCAR drivers don’t suck. As SVG has stated he races on these kind of street circuits a lot during the V8 Supercars season so obviously he has a hell of a lot more experience than the NASCAR boys. NASCAR don’t race in the wet so the conditions were all new to the way the cars handled. The right angle turns must be hard to negotiate as well (given that they pretty much all looked the same which could get confusing) especially when your used to the long sweeping corners of a NASCAR oval,again SVG is more used to these type of corners so he would know his breaking zones and the speeds he can take them at. As SVG said himself after the race,it would be a completely different story if he raced on an oval! So no NASCAR drivers don’t suck in my opinion,it was a great result for SVG and hats off and well done to the NASCAR drivers for racing and putting on a show in totally unfamiliar settings and conditions. Hopefully this result will boost an interest in V8 Supercars from the NASCAR fans as well.
I agree. Nascar would do well to invest into this field. Maybe do 3-4 races with this kind of format. I think it would also be cost prohibited to go all out super car setup, (a dedicated car only), but would sure give an injection to this slowly dying series. Fans are hungry for change. Yes, the super speedways are great but boring. Very similar to the Indy 500. Myself, I like the beginning, middle and end of any oval race, otherwise it is just the same thing. Much prefer open wheeled sprint car racing, almost always more action. This is what attracts fans. Times change, as does the fan base.
I'm a Nascar fan and the first time I watched a V8 supercars race I was hooked, I believe Marcos Ambrose won driving a blue Ford Falcon. The biggest problem is, in the US they don't show the V8 supercars races, I only watch like 8 minutes highlights on TH-cam. Trust me, if the show replays of every race, people here will watch because the racing is so good, Ford vs Chevrolet, Mustang vs Camaro
The NASCAR drivers were getting better and better - and they drove awesome considering it was their first street race. The course was tight and unforgiving, and they handled it like real professionals. Clean driving and passing....it could easily have been carnage out there. SVG specialises in this type of racing - and like he said - it would have been completely different on an oval. But, as a Kiwi, it was great to see a fellow countryman do well against names that we idolise down here. It definitely would be a different story on a big wide banked oval.
@@JakeDemuss90214 If Nascar oval racing is so easy and nascar drivers have no talent, why arent hordes of NZ drivers coming over here and kicking their ass, we all know Nascar is where the moneys at, it sure isnt in Supercar racing. Keep talking out of your ass.
I would love to see Scott McLaughlin drive a cup car on a road course. Look at what he's accomplished in IndyCar since he's been there. Good to see international drivers in their prime driving good equipment in Nascar. I would also like to see SVG race Kyle Larson in a sprint car since both of them are good at that also.
You don’t suck, you just don’t drive in these conditions regularly. GIS is he rain master even in Supercars, where they regularly run in those conditions.
In Supercars all the drivers use the clutch and heel and toe their downshifts. The Nascar guys don't use a clutch. So SVG is in a left hand drive and using his clutch and brake bias front and rear adjustments throughout the race. THis guy can drive the wheels off anything !
One of the problems with NBC's coverage. Failed to show the backfield. I would have loved watching The Gis running the table, as he raised the bar for NASCAR.
Full Disclosure, I am a fan of Dale Jr. but I found it interesting on his podcast he went after FOX for talking about on track action when the video was panned to other events on the track, then. NBC does the same thing several times in Chicago..... it's like they couldn't keep up with the action. JUST SAYING!
A year on, I've had this gripe with every race, every week. I appreciate the front row action, but more mid and backfield coverage would be more interesting and give all drivers better coverage. There's always loads of little battles to watch, why focus everything on the top 10?
Loved Chase and Kyle's comments, i don't think Shane thinks they suck, but how both can translate SVG's performance into a wake up call to improve is amazing. Always strive for excellence.
No you guys definatetly don't suck. He is just that gifted. He drove that Nascar like he drives his V8SC. You don't see the rest of the Nascar field drive like that. Would like to see him on a Oval. He never raced with a spotter before. And was on the Left side of the car.
It is so ridiculous how nascar had no idea they are talentless drivers and the biggest joke of the racing world until someone on an emergency call up jumped into the car and showed you the cars can actually be driven with a real driver. 😂😂😂😂
Glad to see I had the same problem that Ginzzy had from the other side of the car. I went to Australia 7 years ago (where did the time go?), and the other side of the rental car looked like a big conference table, so it took a while to figure out where the edge was.
Yup. It makes you realize just how much of driving is unconscious thought. Things like positioning the car on the road, sightlines to road markings, and the like. All stuff we don't have to think about in regular driving at home, all goes out the window when you swap sides. Heck, even the rear-view mirror. How many times did you glance at the A-pillar, only to find yourself thinking "wait, where'd the mirror g-Oh Sh..."?
@d-marie 100% agree, I wouldn't write off what Shane can do with 4 wheels with enough time. He picked up a Sprintcar this season in NZ and by the end of the season he had a feature win.
Aussie here, I've backed SVG for a long time but don't forget he's racing against a lot of talented drivers here including a lot of his Kiwi countrymen.
to say that they suck would be harsh, but the fact that the commentators were bamboozled by the heel and toe technique shows that they are a fair bit behind on street and road tracks. Can you imagine if this had been a car he was dialed in, week in week out?.... ovals are a different thing altogether, completely alien to anyone not racing in the US, so it would not be fair to make a comparison on that basis...that would like asking Kyle Bush to compete in Rally Sweden, which is on snow.
New competition,new driver's to admire,and follow,Giz will always be #1 but for sure,these guy's in the studio after the race,are a breath of fresh air, compared to those in the Super cars,even the reporters are better,with the question's put to the driver's, Never followed NASCAR,just the stuff in the SH Bathurst Always a weekend of maxing out on the couch, Now I have a huge appreciation for NASCAR, it's driver's,and it's interviewing,Kiwi fan here,
What great job. Just driving a left hand drive car in LA is bad enough, but racing one.... Hang- on, it's probably very similar , LoL. But I said it on another video, those guys were running some weird lines. You could tell they'd rather just make left turns.
Street races are even better in cities where the buildings have balconies. Gold Coast Australia is prime example. Indy was great there. Weather plays a part aswell. Miami would be my choice.
I would think any Oz V8 Supercar driver would look down on any Nascar driver. It is a different discipline that is all. Most Americans would not know we have a Tri Oval here in Straya. Although it hasn't been used for a few years, about 20 miles Nth of Melbourne is the Calder Park Thunderdome, which had full on Nascar and Auscar racing for years.
Nascar drivers dont suck, they just lack experience in street circuit racing! If you want a good laugh look up Channel 7s attempt at Bathurst in 1977 in a Bob Morris prepared A9X Torana where the hot shot American drivers were 10 seconds behind in practice and said the car was no good! Bob did 6 laps in the car and got it within .6 of a second of the lap record , got out and said the car is fine!😅
The fact the Nascar drivers don't heel-toe shift just shows how much more technique he has in this type of driving. Add this race to the schedule, and a few drivers will improve each race. The street course, and then adding the rain... I think most of the Nascar drivers adapted pretty damn good. It was the first Nascar race I've sat and watched almost all of in a long time.
For years Nascar hyped the "road course ringers". All of these semi decent drivers from their own discipline was gonna come in and whoop up on them Nascar boys. And they never did. And Nascar got big headed. "Cup drivers are the greatest drivers in the WORLD!!!!". Then a legit road course/street course racer comes in on a brand new street course and beats them and it's an overblown shock to everybody. "Do we suck?". Well, when it comes to racing with a multi time champion on his own playground, yeah you do. Put him on Bristol or Dover and he's gonna suck. I do not understand why van Gisbergen's win is a shock.
Maybe because it was his first run in a Nascar with average brakes and on the opposite side of the car. Knowing where the walls are when you're on the other side wouldn't be something most drivers would pick up over night but SVG does. Anything he gets in he dominates. Just talented.
i feel like on bristol if thats the dirt version of bristol idk svg would do farely well as he one used to be a competitive drift driver drives sprintcars here in nz and drives rally cars get him on a paved oval ur he would finish top 15 at best id say
So, in addition to everything else, Shane migrated from right-hand drive to left-hand drive. He learnt most of what he needed to learn as he was doing laps at the start of the race. He truly is a gifted driver, we hope that our American friends don’t try and steal him from us. Aussies. Hehehe
Nascar should have red flagged the race when Harvick caused that massive pile up and then NASCAR rigged the race by cutting it short. Face it, Cup cars are meant for oval speed ways, not street races.
Imagine making all the V8 Supercar drivers run an oval race during their season and sending a few elite NASCAR drivers over there to race us. We’d get whipped just the same.
NASCAR drivers do suck. Roval turn 1 when 7 cars plowed into the wall showed us that. Indy RC last yr reaffirmed it. COTA this year solidified they are absolutely talentless
for the americans watching this video, go look up bathurst 1000 Its 600 miles, 6 hours, huge technical sections, every type of corner imaginable all while having a literal mountain on the race track. Its a whole sperate beast compared to what nascar deals with and people like Shane Van Gisbergen are a dime a dozen down there. Nascar is simply unequipped to deal with guys like them.
"Beat us at our own game" it's Not your game, it's street racing not an oval, so it ain't your game mate. Beaten by a regular street/road racer who just happens to be the best in the business at that
Learning curve, Shane joined NASCAR right in time for the most Super v8 like Era. 680hp,transaxle, etc, etc.. get back to 930hp and 3500 lbs, 4 speed on a truck arm live axle and see.. lol
This is what happens when you inject talent into a field of rich kids who bought their way to the series. NASCAR has about 6 or 7 good drivers, the rest just aren't. Larson obviously knows this, Kyle Busch as well, they've essentially said the same thing. NASCAR has done a lot to save their lower end talent by making lower horsepower cars with tons of downforce and grip so they're easy to drive. Road racing, and probably more so street circuits, are drivers courses and are challenging enough that talent makes up more than it normally would in a cup car.
This is why Larson is so well liked--humility. Never assumes he can't learn or improve. He's a great driver.
We loved seeing him race speedway down here in New Zealand pre Covid.
Mindset of a champion. I’ll be following him for the rest of the season.
@@Darrenj195
Who are you talking about racing in New Zealand pre-Covid, Kyle Larson??? If so, I had absolutely no idea that he was racing in other countries around the world. If you’re talking about SVG, I thought he was from NZ??? That’s why I’m assuming that you’re referring to KL. Also, if KL was racing down there, what was he racing? From a Texan to a Kiwi, have a great day!!!
Not that I disagree, but all the NASCAR guys pretty much said the same thing after Chicago to be fair.
@@DFWJonhe’s gone many times to run sprints and midgets in NZ and Australia in the winter.
They definitely don’t suck it’s just different racing. I hope NASCAR fans can tune in to watch Supercars in Townsville this weekend and see the racing Shane and the guys normally do on a street circuit. They fly off curbs on 2 wheels with one side of the car a couple of feet in the air and scrape mirrors on the wall. Seriously skilled drivers.
it's fantastic to watch. also Newcastle is a beautiful street race down the beach and gold Coast chicane is iconic , just ask McLaughlin ! shane stopped to see if he was OK. he's an alright bloke I guess 😂🇳🇿
But Bathurst is just like Christmas Day for V8 Supercars, 161 laps of pure intensity
I'm an avid NASCAR fan and attended the Chicago street race. Was mesmerized by SVG's performance. I've never watched Supercars but this week I've been binging old highlights and plan to start following the series because of SVG. Would love to see him run an oval sometime as that is definitely the wheelhouse of stock car racing. But what a driver he is!
What time and date for the race this weekend?
The biggest problem we have here in the US is that they don't show V8 supercars live unless there's a channel or a website that will show the races. I only watch 8 minutes or so highlights on TH-cam :((
Respect to Larson for the respectful comments about SVG.
Such a humble man. I bet Kyle will be on a street course practicing everything he learned watching.
Oh yeah, I absolutely guarantee you he will!!! Kyle is one of a kind and he is ALWAYS looking for the smallest edge and any way he can improve on his own skills and add to his repertoire!!! But honestly, I really do like this SVG guy. He seems like a very talented and humble dude himself. One can only hope that he decides to make the move to the states and the jump to NASCAR after his contract is up that he is currently signed to. He even said, “he’d love to come drive NASCAR” in a year or so, or whatever it was, during his on-track, post race interview right after he had gotten out of the car.
@@DFWJon I bet SVG would be willing to give KL some tips as well, they both seem like good guys.
@@DFWJon Yes i'm sure he would help out, they are both good guys for the sport in general, the upside to all of this is that SVG has a large fan base from NZ & Aussie, so lots like me are now following NASCAR, I would think the number would be in the 10s of thousands so that's gotta be good for NASCAR, I'm hooked, I even have to get up around 5am to watch it live here in NZ, now that I understand how it all works it is gr8, lovin it.
We Aussies don't think you guys suck his back in OZ ready to race this weekend and has never mentioned anything other than he enjoyed the experience he is a very humble guy with a lot of talent 🤘
I loved watching Marcos Ambrose race at Watkins Glen. That guy owned that track! I drove in Australia once and it was one of the coolest things I’ve experienced with the wheel on the opposite side!
Not forgetting SVG is a Kiwi not Australian.
@@kw5732 remember he made his name over here in our australian competition old mate not yours FYI I didn't say he was Australian whys that do you think being a kiwi that your better lol ! give me a break!
But after that performance we might claim him as an Aussie like we do with most successful kiwis 😁
@@AussieRick101 But i'm Im Australian not a kiwi so whats your point man?
The HEADLINE here: ‘I’ve never raced with a spotter before.’
Makes what he accomplished even more impressive. Respect.
and on a street circuit where its about getting close to the wall and pushing the edge as far as she'll go, all whilst sitting on the other side of the car.
he didn't even baconate it once. 😉🇳🇿
And... First Time left hand drive. Insane skills
Not first time at all but yes he usually drives the “same car” a v8 super car on the opposite side of the vehicle .. he’s got so many odds against him he did well
@@jodypresti94 his rally car is left hand drive and so is the mercedes GT3 he drove to a win at bathurst, also drove a left hand drive car at le monds so not really the first time in a left hand drive car, but still what he did was amazing, coming to grip with a new car a new tyre just amazing
@@TheTrueArchanum um, if he wins he IS an Aussie... that's how it works 🤣 When he throws a shoe at someone he goes back to being a Kiwi 😂
I think Larson is the only driver right now in NASCAR that could be ultra successful in other series. He's a solid wheelman. Think of JPM, Foyt, Mario, Gurney could win in NASCAR, IndyCar, SportsCar, F1. I think Kyle could be in that group of drivers who can win in anything.
Kyle Busch is too old for f1 but give him some open wheel experience he would live for that shit
So basically what Shayne is saying is that he wasnt even going hard for most of the race?
He's a good road racer, kinda like AJ Allmendinger is almost always racing for a win at any road courses
Spot on.
What's makes it a !little more impressive is that he was sitting on the wrong side of the car and shifting with his right hand, normally his driving hand on his side of the world.
I am impressed by the attitude and demenour of Kyle Larsen.
When Shane said he never raced with a spotter before, I about fell out of my chair. That shows you how good those guys are, no wonder he came over and whooped us!
yep us aussies are a different breed 💪
@@imonlyhuman69 pitty he’s a kiwi 😂
@@tamakeresoma7712 sorry us aussies adopted him 😂
SVG is a great ambassador for his sport. This American is watching V8 Supercars this weekend!
Do yourself a favour and take a look at the 2014 Bathurst.
They don’t suck and I know this is a first for some nascar drivers on a street track, but damn you could see the difference in the lines SVG was taking and he came from 18th at one stage to clean up. These are meant to be professional race car drivers and he made them look like novices. And did it cleanly on the wrong side of the car also. Congrats SVG !!
This was a first for nearly every regular NASCAR driver, racing on a street circuit. And they all have very little experience running in wet conditions, as until a couple years ago, even a little bit of rain would see a NASCAR race halted. And seeing as there has only been about 5 tracks each season where they could safely run in wet conditions, they haven't had a lot of chances to practice. Juan Pablo Montoya was a F1 and IndyCar winner yet he never won a NASCAR cup race on an oval. Because its an entirely different type of racing. Tony Stewart is one of the best drivers in recent years, and jumping into a drag car, he didn't immediately perform well, because of the difference in disciplines. They are all professional race car drivers, and like all professional race car drivers, they excel at some types of racing more than others.
@@NathanM4A1 SVG was a huge fan of Tony Stewart and Nascar when he was younger
All about the clutch. You seen when svg took the lead he wasnt bouncing up and down under breaks like the others were
@@snoopythedog3266that's too bad
now let's see how SVG does on an oval
You guys don’t suck! You just need to understand that Gizzy is just a unique talent… a once in a generation person born to drive…. Anything!
@@TheTrueArchanum just curious as an American whats it got to do with the Aussies ? From what i understand if it wasnt for the Aussies he wouldnt have somewhere to show off his talent......
@Steve-jo3cl the series he competes in is based in australia. kinda like if suarez or a canadian came into nascar and won three titles. new zealand has its own legit sedan racing but the supercars series is the pinnacle sedan racing series in the australia-new zealand region.
@@LegalFiction-st7db but i still dont understand the last part of his statement ...
" Showing aussies how to drive "
How about I give the dude credit he should have had a massive that's all of the NASCAR drivers first road course race bring him on over to Talladega and let's see how he does are Bristol
@@matttyler1407watch out what you wish for 😂
Larson and SVG are cut from the same cloth... fast in anything with wheels. Would be great to see Larson get a Bathurst drive.
Yeah I'd love to see him get a codriver spot eh.
I agree with Dale Jr. This was the most level playing field it could’ve been for him to come in and do this. It was a new track to everyone and like Shane said this was his bread and butter.
Jr said if it were Watkins Glen or Sonoma where these guys run frequently he thinks the outcome would’ve been different and I’d have to say I agree with that statement
@@Adogsmate4267Im an Aussie and I've never visited NZ but from what I've seen your road conditions on average seem to be steeper narrower and windier. makes perfect sense to me. We have a lot of straighter wider and flatter roads😊
@@Adogsmate4267 I’m not saying he wouldn’t be good I’m just saying racing somewhere else these NASCAR guys race all the time might have evened the playing field a little
@@Adogsmate4267 either way I loved the race I love his attitude I was happy he won and I’m looking forward to seeing him in NASCAR again
As a die-hard NASCAR fan, I loved SVG's win. Aussie Supercars are no joke.
This!! The types of race tracks that make up the majority of the Aussie Supercars season breeds perfect drivers for this kind of track. Yeah, it might have been in the Americans' backyard, but this sort of racing for the Supercar driver is basically every round of the season.
Respect mate. Thanks
SvG drove an amazing race. I think it showed whose of us who are NASCAR fans that there's a lot left in the Next Gen car in terms of what it can do on a road course.
Definitely going to check out the super car series
The big difference between the two classes is brakes. This helps the average Supercar be a lot more nimble than the NASCAR.
You will be hooked
As an Australian I'm so impressed at what great sports the NASCAR drivers are in recognising Gizzy's achievement here. Great people make for a great sport.
Good interviews of 2 class act racers right there! Not to mention talented.... I think that Shane's utilization of the clutch gave him an upper hand in the braking zones. I'm sure you're going to see more old school Ricky Rudd style road course racing from now on in Nascar.... he smoked em....
Nice words from both drivers. Good stuff.
Basically no,NASCAR drivers don’t suck. As SVG has stated he races on these kind of street circuits a lot during the V8 Supercars season so obviously he has a hell of a lot more experience than the NASCAR boys. NASCAR don’t race in the wet so the conditions were all new to the way the cars handled. The right angle turns must be hard to negotiate as well (given that they pretty much all looked the same which could get confusing) especially when your used to the long sweeping corners of a NASCAR oval,again SVG is more used to these type of corners so he would know his breaking zones and the speeds he can take them at. As SVG said himself after the race,it would be a completely different story if he raced on an oval! So no NASCAR drivers don’t suck in my opinion,it was a great result for SVG and hats off and well done to the NASCAR drivers for racing and putting on a show in totally unfamiliar settings and conditions. Hopefully this result will boost an interest in V8 Supercars from the NASCAR fans as well.
I agree. Nascar would do well to invest into this field. Maybe do 3-4 races with this kind of format. I think it would also be cost prohibited to go all out super car setup, (a dedicated car only), but would sure give an injection to this slowly dying series. Fans are hungry for change. Yes, the super speedways are great but boring. Very similar to the Indy 500. Myself, I like the beginning, middle and end of any oval race, otherwise it is just the same thing. Much prefer open wheeled sprint car racing, almost always more action. This is what attracts fans. Times change, as does the fan base.
I'm a Nascar fan and the first time I watched a V8 supercars race I was hooked, I believe Marcos Ambrose won driving a blue Ford Falcon. The biggest problem is, in the US they don't show the V8 supercars races, I only watch like 8 minutes highlights on TH-cam. Trust me, if the show replays of every race, people here will watch because the racing is so good, Ford vs Chevrolet, Mustang vs Camaro
The NASCAR drivers were getting better and better - and they drove awesome considering it was their first street race. The course was tight and unforgiving, and they handled it like real professionals. Clean driving and passing....it could easily have been carnage out there. SVG specialises in this type of racing - and like he said - it would have been completely different on an oval. But, as a Kiwi, it was great to see a fellow countryman do well against names that we idolise down here. It definitely would be a different story on a big wide banked oval.
Chase Elliott tried to follow him in practice and wrecked!
@JakeDemuss90214 wrong, buddy. Never done a street race. And there is 0 drivers racing today rhat races when they had there 50th year season.
@@JakeDemuss90214 You never know lol, I believe guys like Larson or Elliott can do well if given time to be in a V8 supercar.
@@JakeDemuss90214 If Nascar oval racing is so easy and nascar drivers have no talent, why arent hordes of NZ drivers coming over here and kicking their ass, we all know Nascar is where the moneys at, it sure isnt in Supercar racing. Keep talking out of your ass.
@@JakeDemuss90214 you're so upset. it's funny.
This is a great edited video that answers all the questions, thank you 👍
Thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Yep oval is SUPER competitive, very tough racing, ask Marcos Ambrose.
😂😂😂 Seppo... holy fuck I nearly died. Will any even understand that
Don't explain it to them 😐
The super car guys have been good for a long time on street circuits!
I would love to see Scott McLaughlin drive a cup car on a road course. Look at what he's accomplished in IndyCar since he's been there. Good to see international drivers in their prime driving good equipment in Nascar. I would also like to see SVG race Kyle Larson in a sprint car since both of them are good at that also.
I've seen Larson win the Midget 50 lapper at Western Springs. He'd eat SVG
Robbie Gordon, Juan Montoya, Marcos Ambrose were road course drivers who won in nascar. Nobody was saying " we suck " back then when they got beat.
SVG "I left lots on the table in qualifying" after qualifying 3rd LOL
I bet Bubba Smollet would never have been that humble.
I am hoping some nascar drivers/teams could come out to Australia and rice with the V8 supercars
Yeah that will be great but you have to remember Nascar run mostly on ovals with just a few road courses
Lol. I was trying to remember who's good and who's not.
You don’t suck, you just don’t drive in these conditions regularly. GIS is he rain master even in Supercars, where they regularly run in those conditions.
I love Kyle Larson number 5 7/6/23
"Normally, I'd have just barrelled off and joined the crash." 😂😂😂😂😂
I reckon top Nascar guys should run a team at Bathurst.
Reckon the Yanks would love it.
I would genuinely love to see it.
In Supercars all the drivers use the clutch and heel and toe their downshifts. The Nascar guys don't use a clutch. So SVG is in a left hand drive and using his clutch and brake bias front and rear adjustments throughout the race. THis guy can drive the wheels off anything !
One of the problems with NBC's coverage. Failed to show the backfield. I would have loved watching The Gis running the table, as he raised the bar for NASCAR.
Full Disclosure, I am a fan of Dale Jr. but I found it interesting on his podcast he went after FOX for talking about on track action when the video was panned to other events on the track, then. NBC does the same thing several times in Chicago..... it's like they couldn't keep up with the action. JUST SAYING!
A year on, I've had this gripe with every race, every week. I appreciate the front row action, but more mid and backfield coverage would be more interesting and give all drivers better coverage. There's always loads of little battles to watch, why focus everything on the top 10?
Loved Chase and Kyle's comments, i don't think Shane thinks they suck, but how both can translate SVG's performance into a wake up call to improve is amazing. Always strive for excellence.
No you guys definatetly don't suck. He is just that gifted. He drove that Nascar like he drives his V8SC. You don't see the rest of the Nascar field drive like that. Would like to see him on a Oval. He never raced with a spotter before. And was on the Left side of the car.
You all got beat by a Kiwi? Don't tell any of your Aussie buddies (McFadden,Madsen,etc.)
SVG was definitely in his element
It is so ridiculous how nascar had no idea they are talentless drivers and the biggest joke of the racing world until someone on an emergency call up jumped into the car and showed you the cars can actually be driven with a real driver. 😂😂😂😂
Google SVG rally and have a look at how he wheels a 4wd WRC rally car. This guy has talent in spades.
SVG - an Aussie legend - oops - Kiwi legend - if you can find it on TH-cam checkout he and his Dad racing on the track on the family farm-
Glad to see I had the same problem that Ginzzy had from the other side of the car. I went to Australia 7 years ago (where did the time go?), and the other side of the rental car looked like a big conference table, so it took a while to figure out where the edge was.
Driving in America is no picnic either from a kiwi
@@kalitaylor9064 No doubt. It's really weird isn't it.
Yup. It makes you realize just how much of driving is unconscious thought. Things like positioning the car on the road, sightlines to road markings, and the like. All stuff we don't have to think about in regular driving at home, all goes out the window when you swap sides. Heck, even the rear-view mirror. How many times did you glance at the A-pillar, only to find yourself thinking "wait, where'd the mirror g-Oh Sh..."?
cmon SVG next street circuit, you and the team ?
It was one race on a street course that no one was familiar with.
hopefully you can watch the supercars series this weekend , see shane go at it again , but against "better drivers" 🤷♂️🇳🇿😂
Dumb comment dude!!!!......start showing some respect for the USA drivers!!
@d-marie 100% agree, I wouldn't write off what Shane can do with 4 wheels with enough time. He picked up a Sprintcar this season in NZ and by the end of the season he had a feature win.
Don't oval races have weird things where they draft together in little packs. Where it's all agreed pre race who's running who's bumper
Aussie here, I've backed SVG for a long time but don't forget he's racing against a lot of talented drivers here including a lot of his Kiwi countrymen.
Nascar drivers maybe muscles are used to high G left turn and maybe got tired turning right. edit and also lots more gear change they got sore arms
to say that they suck would be harsh, but the fact that the commentators were bamboozled by the heel and toe technique shows that they are a fair bit behind on street and road tracks. Can you imagine if this had been a car he was dialed in, week in week out?....
ovals are a different thing altogether, completely alien to anyone not racing in the US, so it would not be fair to make a comparison on that basis...that would like asking Kyle Bush to compete in Rally Sweden, which is on snow.
Check out any of GVB driving in the Bathurst 1000 race and you’ll see how supercar drivers can really drive
Come to Australia and try our racing..
I have done street racing the first one is really hard its not like any racecourse.
New competition,new driver's to admire,and follow,Giz will always be #1 but for sure,these guy's in the studio after the race,are a breath of fresh air, compared to those in the Super cars,even the reporters are better,with the question's put to the driver's,
Never followed NASCAR,just the stuff in the SH Bathurst Always a weekend of maxing out on the couch,
Now I have a huge appreciation for NASCAR, it's driver's,and it's interviewing,Kiwi fan here,
Dude was so smooth , He said it put him on s SS and he would get schooled
What great job. Just driving a left hand drive car in LA is bad enough, but racing one.... Hang- on, it's probably very similar , LoL.
But I said it on another video, those guys were running some weird lines. You could tell they'd rather just make left turns.
Interesting to see him at Bristol or other short tracks
Street races are even better in cities where the buildings have balconies. Gold Coast Australia is prime example. Indy was great there. Weather plays a part aswell. Miami would be my choice.
We need Kimi back to try again. And Shane needs to try our other street circuit too , and Pocono
I would think any Oz V8 Supercar driver would look down on any Nascar driver.
It is a different discipline that is all. Most Americans would not know we have a Tri Oval here in Straya. Although it hasn't been used for a few years, about 20 miles Nth of Melbourne is the Calder Park Thunderdome, which had full on Nascar and Auscar racing for years.
Nascar drivers dont suck, they just lack experience in street circuit racing! If you want a good laugh look up Channel 7s attempt at Bathurst in 1977 in a Bob Morris prepared A9X Torana where the hot shot American drivers were 10 seconds behind in practice and said the car was no good! Bob did 6 laps in the car and got it within .6 of a second of the lap record , got out and said the car is fine!😅
SVG has been racing big heavy cars on street circuits for years. He is an amazing driver but it would be different on an oval!
The fact the Nascar drivers don't heel-toe shift just shows how much more technique he has in this type of driving.
Add this race to the schedule, and a few drivers will improve each race.
The street course, and then adding the rain... I think most of the Nascar drivers adapted pretty damn good.
It was the first Nascar race I've sat and watched almost all of in a long time.
For years Nascar hyped the "road course ringers". All of these semi decent drivers from their own discipline was gonna come in and whoop up on them Nascar boys. And they never did. And Nascar got big headed. "Cup drivers are the greatest drivers in the WORLD!!!!". Then a legit road course/street course racer comes in on a brand new street course and beats them and it's an overblown shock to everybody. "Do we suck?". Well, when it comes to racing with a multi time champion on his own playground, yeah you do. Put him on Bristol or Dover and he's gonna suck. I do not understand why van Gisbergen's win is a shock.
Maybe because it was his first run in a Nascar with average brakes and on the opposite side of the car. Knowing where the walls are when you're on the other side wouldn't be something most drivers would pick up over night but SVG does. Anything he gets in he dominates. Just talented.
i feel like on bristol if thats the dirt version of bristol idk svg would do farely well as he one used to be a competitive drift driver drives sprintcars here in nz and drives rally cars get him on a paved oval ur he would finish top 15 at best id say
What would be great is a couple of nascar drivers trying supercars.
Shane’s win is proof that Nascar is just the American version of V8 Supercars.😂
just remember shane was driving and shifting with opposit hand and i guess left foot accellerate
So, in addition to everything else, Shane migrated from right-hand drive to left-hand drive. He learnt most of what he needed to learn as he was doing laps at the start of the race. He truly is a gifted driver, we hope that our American friends don’t try and steal him from us. Aussies. Hehehe
& went back to Townsville the next weekend, back to a right hand drive supercar.
@@ianburnett4605 and came from last to 4th mans a monster
All the Blue oval supporter's will be jumping up and down cheering that he's leaving,
Nascar should have red flagged the race when Harvick caused that massive pile up and then NASCAR rigged the race by cutting it short. Face it, Cup cars are meant for oval speed ways, not street races.
Picture this, How can we win the Chicago street race? SIMPLE, Let's hire the best in a world-champion road racer. Thats how.
If thats what they think a out him, imagine what they would think about frosty or lowndes
I guess it's a shock to Americans to find out that there are talented people in other parts of the world.
Really, Your the bigot to think that way.
I can see this turned into a Hollywood movie 🍿
Talladega Nights!
Thanks for this Awesome video
And he left some on the table
Imagine making all the V8 Supercar drivers run an oval race during their season and sending a few elite NASCAR drivers over there to race us. We’d get whipped just the same.
wow larson matured well!
Well, SVG knows how to Shake AND Bake!! Look out Ricky Bobby!!😜
Now I want to see him run Martinsville or Bristol. I'll bet he whoops them there too!
NASCAR drivers do suck. Roval turn 1 when 7 cars plowed into the wall showed us that. Indy RC last yr reaffirmed it. COTA this year solidified they are absolutely talentless
But he (Shane) never actually answered the question if he though the Nascar drivers 'sucked' at the street course.....
…and there’s your answer.
It’s even more incredible knowing that Shane normally drives on the Right side of the car & shifts with his Left hand!
...all were humble,...that is wonderful to see in this woke day & age.
Didn't he also have fresher tires on that last run? Not taking away from his obvious talent.
Larson had the same
How many laps under Yello..??
when svg dropped to 18th only 9 of the seventeen drivers in front of him were on older tires
Let's see SVG at Talladega or Daytona.
i know he will
for the americans watching this video, go look up bathurst 1000
Its 600 miles, 6 hours, huge technical sections, every type of corner imaginable all while having a literal mountain on the race track.
Its a whole sperate beast compared to what nascar deals with and people like Shane Van Gisbergen are a dime a dozen down there.
Nascar is simply unequipped to deal with guys like them.
come play on the ovals with us and see how you do.
Aussies would be pretty poor on oval tracks but the Bathurst track is Amazing.
"Beat us at our own game" it's
Not your game, it's street racing not an oval, so it ain't your game mate. Beaten by a regular street/road racer who just happens to be the best in the business at that
No he just happened to win the race next year if they have the race and he's in it I wouldn't bet that he would win it
Good driver with the freshest tires🏁
There were 25 cars with the same tyres. Only 9 of the 17 in front of him had older tyres
Yes , y’all do !!
2 be honest all the crashes exposed the rookie 101 errors , all were misjudgement of speed & line in2 corners . 😂
This race was soooooo much fun to watch. Unlike the boring driving in circles BS that Nascar usually does.
The simple answer is yes
He comes to Nascar full time, he'll do fine (probably put up similar numbers to Marcos ambrose when he came over.)
he'll do better than ambrose i'd say
It's ashamed that our regular driver are falling all over this guy it was just one race
Learning curve, Shane joined NASCAR right in time for the most Super v8 like Era. 680hp,transaxle, etc, etc..
get back to 930hp and 3500 lbs, 4 speed on a truck arm live axle and see.. lol
This is what happens when you inject talent into a field of rich kids who bought their way to the series. NASCAR has about 6 or 7 good drivers, the rest just aren't. Larson obviously knows this, Kyle Busch as well, they've essentially said the same thing.
NASCAR has done a lot to save their lower end talent by making lower horsepower cars with tons of downforce and grip so they're easy to drive. Road racing, and probably more so street circuits, are drivers courses and are challenging enough that talent makes up more than it normally would in a cup car.