The Surprisingly Different Moral Perspectives of Jedi Council Members [Pt. 3]
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0:00 Intro
0:52 Obi-Wan Kenobi
3:35 Even Piell
5:22 Shaak Ti
7:30 Outro - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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"Strike me down with all of your hatred..."
"No, I'll strike you down with all love, joy and happiness."
"Wait, what? DON'T!"
If this isn't considered Comment of the Week, I'm not sure what will.
Thats what I say to my wife with my light Saber lmao just playin
"Love ya!"
[Decapitates Sith]
Plot twist of the century
@@geetslys Ok now you have done on all my requested characters except for Plo, plssss
Shaak Ti takes "There is no death, there is only the Force" literally as she's died multiple times.
Shaak Ti just won't stay dead, I get the feeling she'd have come back in Legends at some point if given the chance...
Hell, she might in Current Canon anyway given that she's essentially a Memetic Vulkan Clone.
If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
Obi-wan: *Never gave up on his enemies and spared them*
Also Obi-wan: “So I fired that blaster 5 times”
😂😂😂
Also Obi-wan on using blasters after using said blaster: "So uncivilized."
Also Obi-Wan, abandons his brother to burn alive
@this city really looks like a city To be fair Anakin wasn’t sure if he could trust Obi Wan regarding his secret relationship with Padme, since it was unfortunately against the Jedi code? Also, Obi Wan shouldn’t have joined the Jedi High Council, this drove him and Anakin further apart. Didn’t he see that he wasn’t honoring Qui Gon’s memory by joint the Council? He and the rest of the Jedi should’ve tried treating Anakin with more trust and compassion, and they should’ve known better than to let Palpatine have access to him in the first place? They talk about not having attachments when they were so attached to the Republic and the power that it gave them, what blatant hypocrisy.
I honestly love how obi wans character is made. He is arguably the Jediest Jedi. Never losing his faith in the force and the light side. If you search up the phrase, never give in, it's a picture of Obi wan. Can't wait for the obi wan TV show
"Jediest Jedi" is the greatest thing ever said!
Obi-Wan is amazing, but don't forget he learned from the best. Qui-Gon is the quintessential Jedi to me.
And thats my problem with their idea that Obi-Wan will suffer with PTSD like really. Sure hes been known to feel a little down but bounces back. I hope they don't fuck his character up.
@@michaelwachendorf2096 I think Ptsd is normal. Think about it, his entire life, all his friends, people he considered his family, got killed and murdered by someone he called a brother, and by soldiers he trusted with his life. That along with the satine death, would fuck anyone up
@@michaelwachendorf2096 he's still a dude. He's fair game for all the shit that messes up anyone. That's part of what makes him so personable and such an awesome character. We know full well what happens to Obi-Wan in A New Hope. Whatever PTSD he may have suffered before then, he obviously cleared it up and did what had to be done so I'm fine with seeing him going through it and coming out of it
*“If you kill a killer, the number of killers across the galaxy stays the same”* - Jedi Master Even Piell, probably
This is true if you just stop at one, gotta get those numbers up
"But if you kill 10 the number has gone down by 9" -Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, Probably.
I feel like this is a conversation that would actually happen between the 2 lol 😂
Lol, Jedi math
IMO it doesn't matter how many murderers there would be, it's how many horrible or bad people there would be left. i hate this ideology
I like to think that of the Council Members, Shaak Ti was among the ones who hadn't voted to kick out Ahsoka, considering they were the same species.
the only ones I am convinced did not vote for her were Obi-Wan, Plo Koon, and Yoda
I could be wrong but I think it was stated there was only one Jedi master who voted to keep her in the order. Last I heard that was Plo Koon
That would be great if that was what happened! Not too sure though…
@@RJazz909 I'm honestly not surprised even Obi-Wan didn't vote in favor of her. Man's made some QUESTIONABLE decisions like not telling Anakin about the Hardeen thing
@@RJazz909 another reason why the Jedi were evil from my point of view..... _HOW COULD THEY DO THAT TO MY PADAWAN?! THEY THREW HER OUT AS IF SHE WAS NOTHING._ .....I was the only one there for her.....
It'd be great if you do one on Quinlan Vos, Luminara Unduli and Kit Fisto.
I believe he did in the last vid
Vos and unduli were not part of the council
Nice script, Geetsly's. A very good point about Kenobi, I must say.
He was not strong in the Force as a youngster and actually did get assigned to the agri-corp until Jinn picked him up. Fans often see him hold his own against Skywalker and then assume he was one of the most powerful Jedi. Thank you for illuminating Kenobi's character.
Keep up the good work.
in terms of combat prowess he was a bad ass not many jedi could match him a dual
He was strong in the Force, just not as strong as most other Council members. I believe it was primarily his attitude that got him sent to the agri corps.
Shaak Ti is another Togruta I like as well as Ahsoka.
Togurta girls are the best. 😍
Awesome to see some positive Shaak Ti content. All to often she is reduced to the moron TCW made her in the Fives arc. In pre-TCW stories she was, as said, a lot more cunning and perceptive. Ti was, rightfully, one of the orders best (and I'd think any jedi whose presence alters the force signature of an entire planet is a great light sider) and all she really sought was the flurishment and later survival of her people. Her last moments spent in teaching a final lesson to the next generation. Which in the end played a large role in saving the galaxy and reigniting the jedi light in earnest.
no no...she's reduced to dying
Which last moment? She's had several...
@@majinjason the one in the EU: on Felucia, any other isn't part of EU continuity (either from not finished concept scenes or similar).
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 yeah I was being facetious
I would love to see discussion of Kit Fisto, Plo Koon, and, while not Council members, Qui-Gon Jinn and Ahsoka Tano.
I don't think it is surprising that the individuals who comprised the Jedi Council had such differing values. That's the point of a council after all. What is surprising to me is how much influence Mace Windu had over the council. Even Grandmaster Yoda seemed to defer to him despite when he seemingly knew better.
i always hated that about the prequels and clone wars. if you asked me to think of a time mace windu didn't have massive influence in a council session during the clone wars/prequels to save my life, I'd probably die like, seriously, it's offensive how little input most members had compared to him
@@zzeroara9511 I know right? Don't get me wrong. Love Master Windu. But the dude was a serious control even to the point where Yoda was like yeah, whatever he said.
Eh tbf it's Samuel l Jackson out of all the council, he was the only A-List actor. Less of an excuse for clone wars, but that's why Mace is focused on more before the prequels we only knew about the green Muppet, so instead of fleshing out the whole council properly the movies gave us Samuel L Jackson😂😂
Could we get a series about how individual Jedi and Sith of different eras would view each other? With each pairing having something that connects the two being discussed. Bane and Sidious as the first and last of the Rule of Two or Revan and Qui-Gonn Jinn for being atypical Jedi for their times.
So happy there is a Shaak Ti in this list
Shak Ti seems the ideal Jedi In fighting. Fighting with a viciousness but always willing to accept legit surrender or compromises even on the fly. Which is sorta how things work out at times. Even Sith will fight in such ways if outright murder isn't their current goal
I love this series. Shaak Ti is my absolute favorite Star Wars character and you all did her justice, Thank you.
I always liked Shaak Ti, in fact i wish she became Starkiller's master instead of Rahm Kota, she would have been a great mother figure to him. Also instead of Makashi and Ataru as her main lightsaber forms i think Soresu and Niman fits her better.
To be fair, Obi-Wan was also totally fine with deliberately using negotiations as a distraction while Anakin ran black ops behind the scenes. This is, in fact, considered a war crime in real life.
I love how casually that duo pulls out the “fake surrender” war crime, it’s practically their bread and butter strategy
@@Sentient_Blob Another real life no-no is dressing up in the enemy's uniform to trick them, and once you know that you start to notice how often it happens: In Rebels, they end up stealing stormtrooper armor so many times it basically becomes a running gag.
Well as they say.... Everything is fair in Love and War
Obi Wan trained to become a force spirit by unlocking new high ground tactics.
Can u do a video like this with plo koon, kit fisto an eeth koth? Love the content 🙌 have a good day or night geetsly
Love this guy and his Videos. Great work man.
Let’s help him get to the 500K goal guys. Let’s do this.
I'm starting to find myself more and more appreciative of Shaak Ti.
I'd love to see a video on Oppo Rancisis, Saesee Tinn and Stass Allie. Oppo is one of my favourites and he and Stass got absoultely nothing to them in the clone wars series, which I was very sadge about
I would like to see the moral philosophy of Kazdan Paratus if possible but if not then Plo Koon.
Bringing back the “double zoom” in the intro huh
The good ol battlefront ps2 days
Geestlys done a lot of Jedi but now hes done Even Peil...
I'm sorry.
This pun is a disturbance in the force
@@aceundead4750 I felt a million voices suddenly cry out in terror and then were suddenly silenced...
@@Viperfish9000 they're either one with the force now, or were food for Valkorion
@@aceundead4750 with that pun I dread to think...
The Senate has the most valuable moral perspective.
Ah yes, Shaak Ti, best known for her ability to resurrect herself, which she used first after being killed by Grievous above Coruscant, and then again after being killed by Anakin in the Jedi Temple, before finally being eaten by a massive sarlac.
Shaak Ti, the Jedi that won't die but can't live either.
Not sure it’s fair to say Galen killed Shaak Ti. He defeated her in combat, yes, but she jumped into the felucia sarlacc and he seemed rather taken aback, a look of shock on his face and even a hand stretched out as if trying to save her instinctively (at least on the Wii version of TFU, I know there are differences between versions and/or mediums).
Ti used the force like qui gon who she embodies though with much more power and weight, so she subverted her opponents rather than overpowering them outright but in failing that, no problem in clobbering them to heel. She also believes in less physical more spiritual methods of jedi pursuits, living force and all that, in the same wing as yoda, obi wan and she is flexible with her tactics believing in any potental solution with any ally and cause to be possible, like gallia, qui gon, even luminara.
Plo is probably one of the most interesting because he is all about justice and always knowing right from wrong, in many ways unforgiving and unchanging in his judgement, seeing criminals as only that- not worth the same consideration, and defending every decision he makes and using assertion and aggression to end a fight quick and protect the vulnerable, seeing battles or fights as necessary when negotiating doesn’t work. He is loyal though to his allies and would defend them to the hilt within reason. In many ways he is what kenobi embodies though plo is more rigid, hardlined and battle scarred in it
Then billaba. Oh billaba. Spiritual, against any war yet is utterly competent in violence when its called for. No compunction about killing or maiming beings who presume to fight her who she thinks are villainous or gangsters, all for leaving worlds to govern themselves where at all possible and has trouble distinguishing where to apply peace or attribute wrongdoing among certain warring nations like those on haruun kal, and easier time with broader separatist forces.
Tiin, fisto and koth have little light between them, they are like mundi but more flexible, battle for peace, negotiation where possible and as a first response. Fisto believes in free flowing easy going cool headed approaches with levity and connection through humour, making any mission less daunting he knows what is good and just in the fundamental basic ways, which makes his character powerful and balanced.
Agen kolar is as bad as mundi, having no time for diplomacy at all and using violence in any way on anyone to get the job done believing the jedi council to always be correct even in wartime, no views of his own, no strong moral compass other than us good, them bad.
Plo Koon, Saesee Tiin, Oppo Rancisis, Yarael Poof, Eeth Koth, Depa Billaba and Kit Fisto
I love to see more videos like this. Plo Koon, I think would be a very good one to do.
Wow GREAT video! I could listen to fact about jedi all day. Shaak Ti is awesome. Also thats an awesome thumbnail!
Joda's philosofy would be interesting
Rohm Kota is one I’d love to see.
He isnt really canon anymore though, is he?
@@yoursonisold8743, Disney has committed a heresy that cannot be forgiven.
@@MatthewChenault Calm down, I was asking you. I don't know if Kota appeared in anything outside the Unleashed franchise, which is not canon anymore.
@@yoursonisold8743, most of what Geetzly draws on is “non-canon.”
@@MatthewChenault Perhaps, but at least in this series he is only talking about canon Jedi council members, which should be all of them, as they were planned out since Episode 1. Kota is a Jedi master, but I dont remember him being on the council, so that's why his canonicity is in the air.
Who killed Shok Ti? I thought because of a recent "deleted scene" from RotS made canon, Anakin struck her down during Operation: Night Fall, as she calmly resigned herself to her fate.
I'd happily negotiate with TI in force unleashed
Life is complicated it would be hard for a single individual to always behave in a way of certain philosophy let alone multiple individuals, living things survive because they adapt to the environment and its the same with the Jedi.
Plo Koon will be an interesting one. he was very much a black and white view of the world. who can be compared to that?
I’d love to have you guys look at Kit Fisto!
Jorus C’Baoth, Saesee Tiin and Depa Billaba.
Plo Koon, Kyle Katarn and Vandar Tokare.
Obi wan is the epitome of speak soft with big stick.
That's why I love him so much
Can we just stop for a second and wonder why Yoda resembles Ki-Adi-Mundi's illegitimate love child with Yaddle, in the thumbnail? 😂
Piell had the right idea. Some people can't be saved and some aren't worth saving because of their vile deeds.
How about Pong Krell, Plo Koon and Quinlan Vos.
I’m curious on the philosophy of not killing one’s opponent. There is a high probability the person is not going to repent to begin with and will only cause more doom. The scenarios I’m thinking of is Kenobi when he is cornered by savage and maul, he cuts off savages limb, but he could have dealt a killing blow as he escaped. Asoka showed the inquisitors mercy and they for sure wouldn’t repent, and Ezra couldn’t kill an inquisitor because my guess is he has never killed anyone before, which is understandable. Maul then slays the inquisitor saying that next time it could cost him the lives of others if he didn’t take the opportunity. Other than this being a kids show….why not do it? Tactically or per the Jedi code.
Could you do the moral philosophies of some old republic jedi next?
I feel that Qui-Gon taught Kenobi well.
You could make a video about the moral philosophies of the 501st ARC troopers: Echo, 5's and Jesse
Please make more videos on the different moral perspectives of the Jedi we three Jedi per video
I would love to see Kit Fisto for this series
Qui-Gon Jinn, Tholme, Tra Saa and K'Kruhk
Hello geetsly
Geetsly’s is acknowledging Galen Marek/Starkiller? Nice
Obi wan was the one Jedi that went out of his way to avoid bloodshed while Anakin found it fun at times to use his lightsaber to slaughter anything that he thought deserved it
Sweet 👍👍
Can you talk about the Different Moral Perspectives of Jedi Council Members of the New Jedi ORDER from legends please?
Anyone notice the clone armory @5:34 looks like the a single part of the ss symbol
I can't wait for Quinlen's, Master Oppo's, and Fitso's
Please do Qui Gon Jinn
How very interesting.
The talk about the Jedi reminded of the question that I had ever since the video about the concept of the Grey Jedi here. Why don't they just change the names from the Light and the Dakr Side to the Balance State and the Imbalance State? If they simply change the names, things may be clearer between the Jedi and the Sith.
in the movies (first 6 ones at least) the light side was never called the light side of the force but simply the force. the dark side is a descriptor of why you dont want to go that path. basically the confusion has always rested on the fans and not in universe.
Even Piell's philosophy=BASED!!!!!
Still waiting for Plo Koon
Remember when obiwan was trying to free slaves and he happily let Rex kill a slaver
Please do Plo Koon, Oppo Rancisis, and Kit Fisto pleeeease 😭😭
I don't really care how, but I would love to see a video about master Di from the clone wars episode supply lines. Unless I misidentified his species, his kin were a slave race of warriors to the Hutts. They also were know to be aggressive and tended to do mercenary work even when they were free. Also I just respect a man who is willing to fight to the last man to protect innocents, fewer deaths are more honorable.
*later on, in lieu of the description quote* "Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic, TO DEMOCRACY!!!"
I'd like to know more about the other council members.
How about Plo Koon, Eeth Koth, and Seasee Tin next?
Where's our boy Plo-Koon!?
Can you cover the moral philosophies of three sith lords?
The Sith don't do morals.
Sith Lords start out with different philosophies but sadly once they get super deep into the dark side it basically warps their mind to just be pure evil.
@@jamesleduke873 Everyone has a moral philosophy, at least at an unconscious level if not consciously. Even completely amoral people have a moral philosophy that supports their amoral actions, e.g., "might makes right."
@@erickpoorbaugh6728 I take it you tend to miss a lot of jokes.
Stellan Geious High Republic
HOLY SHIT! THE RETURN OF THE DOUBLE ZOOM INTRO!
Space Jesus, my King!
I really want to knot the Moral respective of Luke skywalker
I misspelled know
Offense is the best defense.
Are you ever going to cover masters outside of the films? like KotOR era or New Jedi Order?
You wanna Buy some Death sticks?
You don’t want to sell me death sticks
@@ryanmann1416 I don't wanna sell ya Death sticks!
@@juanpablouriascruz1411 you want to go home and rethink your life
Do plot Koon next
I’d like to see one for plo koon
What about Lucien draay and the Jedi covenant
The Jedi often prevented the saving of lives with their rules.
At least they'll be one Kenobi was on this list... 🤣🤣
please do rahm kota
Quinlan Vos
Basically, Even Piell is me when it comes to confronting hostiles, especially the ones I don't think would like negotiations of any kind.
Still, you can't hate Obi-Wan's take. A bit naive, yes, but worthless, not quite... wonder if he also prefers breaking their spines literally and figuratively, Even Piell?
7:31 don’t you mean 8 Jedi Masters?
Plo Koon moral point of view
The old intro is back
Is this the old intro? The outro was paced a bit awkwardly though
"That makes nine jedi masters"
well
eight plus anakin
Personally, I see myself as sort of a more aggressive Obi-Wan. I try to avoid violence as much as possible, since I see it as kind of unnecessary. I prefer to solve matters with words, rather than with fists. It's ironic how a guy with Autism grew from an easily angered child, to an adult who is generally very difficult to piss off and prefers diplomacy to violence. However, when violence is no longer avoidable, especially when the other person strikes first, I can get pretty aggressive with how I fight. Despite not being in many fights, I'm pretty capable in actual combat. I will try not to kill a person when combat comes about. However, if I cannot think of another alternative, I'm not above killing someone. I have not taken a life yet and I hope I will not be put in a position where I will not be able to find another way.
Old intro?
Poking a Plo
come on...
I find that being a Jedi and a sith overall requires moderation. If you swing too much dark you basically become a slave to the force (I.e insane power crazy deformed person) but if you swing too much to the light you become a weakling when compared to a dark sided. Since yes you get OP but you are weakened by your duty as a Jedi.
Plo Koon
Thanos was right
Yoder