In 2x11, 'Rivals', O'Brien tries to have a rousing game of racquetball and encounters Bashir, captain of his medical racquetball team and sector champion- of course.
They enhanced his intelligence, motor skills, coordination... "What about these social skills and emotional intelligence? They're pretty... uh.... well they could use some work, he's not the brightest bulb in the..." some genetics intern asks. *Everyone looks at them and starts dismissively laughing* . . . 22 years later, on a space station near a wormhole.....
@@Atreides42 When you think about it, Bashir's arrogance and lack of social skills are a direct result of his genetic manipulation, like all Human augments when you artificially increase positive traits like he had, a unnatural superiority complex is created. This is why the Eugenics war happened in Star Trek's 3rd world war. It's why genetic manipulation is illegal. Every human that was genetically modified felt themselves superior to other humans.
@@Finsternis.. But they didn't hasten evolution in positive ways, it lead to two different wars in the Star Trek history. The Eugenics war cost 30+ million lives and the 40 nations that the Augments led, non-modified humans were treated as little more than slaves. This led to a ban on genetic manipulation. WW3 was over whether to continue that ban, it lasted 27 years, destroyed most major cities and governments and cost 600+ million lives. Truth be told Humans don't do well with genetic manipulation. Bashir is literately the only one who didn't have a mental disorder but he was arrogant and had a hard time being social, his redeeming quality was he had no desire to lead, which was a rarity.
@@steeltimberwolf On one hand you are arguing morals which are of no relevance to the evolution aspect. On the other hand you argue edge cases. If humans would not do so great with genetic tampering and came out with mental defects, how would they be able to scare the "healthy" people? Infact, the only reason the Augments lost was because they were warring among themselfes. The "issue" Augments had was ambition. Which, for the sake of morals, was also deemed "defective" in Star Trek canon. It's only the genetics that was done afterwards, after the knowledge was lost, that went bad. Had humantiy not been so ignorant about the topic, that would be a non-issue.
He isn't being an ahole. If anything, he's arrogant, but really, he's not able to read social interactions, if he wasn't GM, I would say he had Aspergers. Maybe he has Aspergers, and his GM wasn't able to eliminate it completely.
By that logic any athlete who had athletes as parents would be cheating. Bashir is still human. In some fields he is just the best of whats humanly possible.
Obrien was one of the most boring cast members on the show. Sure he can be related with but they could of removed his character and replaced it with a new one or nobody and let the other cast have more lines. Its not a knock on the actor either I thought the part of Obrien was boring.
Imagine having to play a decades younger, genetically enhanced superior as a "rival" in your spare time. You'd be losing constantly in every contest of skill or strength, and any win would most likely be an act of pity or intentional self handicap by your opponent. That'd take quite the resiliant ego to endure thatt on a regular basis in good humor.
Yeah, I think that would get annoying. It's more fun when you can actually compete against your opponent as oppose to just getting slaughtered all the time.
*Spoiler* Well, Bashir had to stand a bit further back while him and O'brien played darts at Quarks. That was after it was discovered that he was genetically engineered. I still think he held back :P
O'Brien always suffers. His is a life of suffering and humiliation, work never ending. I kept waiting for him to one day throw a spanner in the works or take a vacation or go on strike and watch the whole station collapse on them to have the last laugh on them all.
With retrospect I like to think that in his frustration of not being able to use all his genetically enhanced abilities, Bashir would instead just use any opportunity where he was pretending to be 'just above average' as a time to troll everyone like this
I love how old trek always had to have like "spaaaace" sports. Like not tennis or racquetball or squash. Has to have space racquets and 90s laser tag arena.
@@michaellejeune7715 true! But that's more because it was Siskos character thing that he liked classic baseball I think. I think O'Brian got hurt regular kayaking in an ep too in a regular wetsuit.
Same. I loved his dorky energetic personality, it was refreshing to see such a different med charecter in Trek. Shame they toned it down a lot after Season 1.
The more that I think about it, I think it was just his way to drive everyone's attention away from the truth that he was a genetically enhanced human.... because they outlawed that after the Eugenics wars.
Wasn't he trying to not attract attention to himself as a product of genetic engineering... Sounds like he wasn't taking that seriously during his academy days.
Seems to be one of the few exceptions; he'd usually deliberately aim to be second best or worse at whatever he did to avoid attracting too much attention.
@@Levi_Skardsen You're right that fictional lore are often created retroactively as storylines by writers who have not seen every episode are written, but we're having fun pointing out the inconsistencies this brings.
I've always wondered why no one at a medical academy ever figured out (considering his both academic and athletic awards level) that he was genetically enhanced? How did he avoid medical checkups that would have revealed things like improved metabolic and digestive properties? Last I heard EVERYONE in med school gets a lot more health scrutiny than normal people as they have students do basic tests on each other and examine the results. By that time in the future that would include genetic tests etc
@@josephteller9715 Thinking he's just naturally genetically gifted would've been a far more plausible explanation than him being genetically engineered. Looking at current athletes, would Lance Armstrong's lung capacity, peak energy output, low lactic acid buildup and freakish recovery speed make him genetically engineered?
@@obliviouz Why are you using a guy that was doping as an example of why we shouldn't worry about "freaks of nature" actually being that way because they broke the rules?
@@threenumbnuts Doping had literally nothing to do with Armstrong's natural freakish lung capacity - drugs don't increase your lung capacity, in case you're confused.
I wonder how many times Alexander Siddig found his part of the script just said, "Be annoying" or "Do something weird"? I remember when when he and Kira went to the Mirror Universe. In the start of that one they had him try to meditate in the most obnoxious way possible. And now that I think about it I can imagine Bashir's annoying factor being turned up to 11 if he was participating in Ambojitsu. They say it was the ultimate evolution in the martial arts but seriously have my doubts.
Was this from the time that O'Brien and Bashir weren't necessarily friends? It's been a while since I saw this series and never re-watched it later but I seem to recall that the first season or two, O'Brien didn't like the doctor much.
this was the moment that cemented bashir in pure hatred in obrians mind. for like a month. a month later and hes practically inviting jullian over to tag team his wife.
Only if he played it before. A Vulcan would stick to the rules. Throwing the ball in such a way to vary the velocity but still end up hitting within a target zone. Then arriving at a base before a Vulcan can catch the ball. Doesn't sound easy.
I can't play tennis to save my life, but I was (been a while since I played) great at badminton. Essentially the same game, but I just couldn't get tennis... Volleyball too I was good at! I should get off my arse one day and play again
I felt like this was the first time they set up that to-be-friendship. Then again, I don't remember season 1 as well since I watched it about half a year ago, while the rest I binge watched just a week ago.
Why is everybody saying that Bashir is an asshole? He’s literally just every good sports player I’ve ever met and additionally he’s just a little bit very weird XD Like, he’s just a socially awkward bisexual, let him live!
They claim this is traditional raquetball but then he serves front wall to back wall (a "long" serve) which should be an out-of-bounds foul and a second serve of the same point. I now have no clue what they're playing. Squash maybe?
This works when the difference in skill is not that great. I think this would be more like a middle-schooler playing a pro. It's no fun for the pro because there is not even the slightest challenge, and it's no fun for the kid because he is so out-classed, it makes improving hard. It would be much more beneficial to play someone only a little better than you.
@@Sindraug25 I think it would depend on if that pro was willing to dole out bits of advice and tricks during and after play. I would have no problems being beat over and over by a pro at something if they were willing to teach while doing so. If it was an absolute jerk I was up against... that'd be a different story.
Its in the same family of games: In the UK, Squash aka Squash 57 was previously called Racketball until 2016. Racquetball (US) uses a softer ball and the ceiling is not out of bounds. Hardball Squash (US) is similar to Squash 57 as it uses a harder ball.
Bashir had to have made up that warm up. It looked to ridiculous not only that he's genetically engineered. He shouldn't need warm ups. But we didn't know at the time bout him when this episode first aired.
Actually in this episode some how the balances of luck are put of balance by some gambling machines in a casino next to quarks and it dos not matter if bashir is biologically better because the odds are against him
I dunno why but Bashir seems to make for really lousy image thumbnails. He's not photogenic or something. In this case he looks like he's wearing a teenage girl's crop top.
Brilliant so you are telling me you were there when Bashir was tested. You must have been there when Bashir was able to lie to Stafleet medical too, I bet you experienced it all. Tell me more jokes TJ
Looking at it from O’Brien’s point of view it’s probably better he versus somebody genetically enhanced. Going against the best makes you better all around.
Meaney throws like a girl 😂😂 its so distracting. Same with the baseball episode. I mean...when they seen him throw a ball...did no one try to help him with his form??
You have a fucking holodeck and you choose to play some kind of racket ball? I'd be fucking and fighting... all day long. These characters are unrealistic.
Dunno why people find this "friendship" so appealing. In his conversations with Bashir, O'Brien ALWAYS comes across as cranky, irritated, impatient, or angry. In short, a Negative Nancy. Even in the later seasons when Bashir's happy-go-lucky attitude had calmed down a bit. O'Brien's character really devolved from bland in TNG to downright nauseating here.
I'm pretty sure that "five thousand year old battle warm up" was made up on the spot just to make fun of Bashir... and he took it seriously.
You mean O’Brian. Otherwise you’re saying Bashir’s making fun of himself
@@teleportedbreadfor3days theyre saying that the person who taught him the warmup was making fun of him, and he took it seriously
I watched Zoolander this makes me feel old to say the list.
I mean, people still perform millennia old war dances before rugby matches....
I love that Bashir can't *not* be an asshole, even when he's genuinely trying to make friends.
They enhanced his intelligence, motor skills, coordination...
"What about these social skills and emotional intelligence? They're pretty... uh.... well they could use some work, he's not the brightest bulb in the..." some genetics intern asks.
*Everyone looks at them and starts dismissively laughing*
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22 years later, on a space station near a wormhole.....
@@Atreides42 When you think about it, Bashir's arrogance and lack of social skills are a direct result of his genetic manipulation, like all Human augments when you artificially increase positive traits like he had, a unnatural superiority complex is created. This is why the Eugenics war happened in Star Trek's 3rd world war. It's why genetic manipulation is illegal. Every human that was genetically modified felt themselves superior to other humans.
@@Finsternis.. But they didn't hasten evolution in positive ways, it lead to two different wars in the Star Trek history. The Eugenics war cost 30+ million lives and the 40 nations that the Augments led, non-modified humans were treated as little more than slaves. This led to a ban on genetic manipulation.
WW3 was over whether to continue that ban, it lasted 27 years, destroyed most major cities and governments and cost 600+ million lives.
Truth be told Humans don't do well with genetic manipulation. Bashir is literately the only one who didn't have a mental disorder but he was arrogant and had a hard time being social, his redeeming quality was he had no desire to lead, which was a rarity.
@@steeltimberwolf On one hand you are arguing morals which are of no relevance to the evolution aspect. On the other hand you argue edge cases. If humans would not do so great with genetic tampering and came out with mental defects, how would they be able to scare the "healthy" people? Infact, the only reason the Augments lost was because they were warring among themselfes. The "issue" Augments had was ambition. Which, for the sake of morals, was also deemed "defective" in Star Trek canon. It's only the genetics that was done afterwards, after the knowledge was lost, that went bad. Had humantiy not been so ignorant about the topic, that would be a non-issue.
He isn't being an ahole. If anything, he's arrogant, but really, he's not able to read social interactions, if he wasn't GM, I would say he had Aspergers. Maybe he has Aspergers, and his GM wasn't able to eliminate it completely.
One of the best things about DS9 is the friendship these two had.
I would argue that Bashir and Garak's relationship was more interesting.
By that logic any athlete who had athletes as parents would be cheating. Bashir is still human. In some fields he is just the best of whats humanly possible.
Obrien was one of the most boring cast members on the show.
Sure he can be related with but they could of removed his character and replaced it with a new one or nobody and let the other cast have more lines.
Its not a knock on the actor either I thought the part of Obrien was boring.
Dan Nolan nope if you don't have anything against the actor why would you change the actor for another character with the same features
His character is boring I would replace with one who wasnt.Not replace him with another boring one.
Imagine having to play a decades younger, genetically enhanced superior as a "rival" in your spare time. You'd be losing constantly in every contest of skill or strength, and any win would most likely be an act of pity or intentional self handicap by your opponent.
That'd take quite the resiliant ego to endure thatt on a regular basis in good humor.
tnerb tnerb and obrien suffers
It doesn't matter here anyway due to Chris Sarandon's luck device. They just keep playing without either losing.
Yeah, I think that would get annoying. It's more fun when you can actually compete against your opponent as oppose to just getting slaughtered all the time.
*Spoiler*
Well, Bashir had to stand a bit further back while him and O'brien played darts at Quarks. That was after it was discovered that he was genetically engineered. I still think he held back :P
O'Brien always suffers. His is a life of suffering and humiliation, work never ending. I kept waiting for him to one day throw a spanner in the works or take a vacation or go on strike and watch the whole station collapse on them to have the last laugh on them all.
With retrospect I like to think that in his frustration of not being able to use all his genetically enhanced abilities, Bashir would instead just use any opportunity where he was pretending to be 'just above average' as a time to troll everyone like this
i read that they wanted meany to wear that skin tight suit and he gave them such a death stare they just let him wear what he was wearing to the set
It works. Makes Bashir look like even more of an ass how he's all dressed up for a casual game.
I would have given them a death glare too
I like that the chief just wears a normal guy’s shabby old workout stuff.
I cannot put into words how much I love DS9.
"a lot"
does that help find the words?
@@PyrokineticFire1 Wow, thanks very much it helps a great deal.
I love how old trek always had to have like "spaaaace" sports. Like not tennis or racquetball or squash. Has to have space racquets and 90s laser tag arena.
@@AltoStratusX1 Baseball featured prominently in DS9 though.
@@michaellejeune7715 true! But that's more because it was Siskos character thing that he liked classic baseball I think. I think O'Brian got hurt regular kayaking in an ep too in a regular wetsuit.
"Do I ... annoy you?"
When your friend convinces you to play their favorite video game you've never heard of for the first time.
I miss over enthusiastic Bashir from the earlier seasons.
Same. I loved his dorky energetic personality, it was refreshing to see such a different med charecter in Trek. Shame they toned it down a lot after Season 1.
@@RIDDICK0911 You mean he grew up. Became more mature. I think that happens to most people :)
The more that I think about it, I think it was just his way to drive everyone's attention away from the truth that he was a genetically enhanced human.... because they outlawed that after the Eugenics wars.
Maybe Julians war never ended and he become more dark and contemplative.
War tends to harden people just a bit
Being friends with Julian is like being friends with a Q, you're never quite sure when they're screwing with you.
The look on O'Brian's face. "What the FUCK are you DOING?"
anyone recon the script said "bashir doesnt something dorky" when it came to the motions
My god, I just read Alexander Siddig's full name for the first time
That guy must hate passport applications
I can just picture him when he has to renew his passport.
NAME: ________________
(Head hits desk, repeatedly)
During the show's run it kept changing and getting longer with each season it felt like as I watched. I was like wtf at the time.
It's like when Banderas's character is explaining his full name in 13th Warrior.
Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi.
Oh my fucking god.
he also hated dealing with paramount via merchandising, thats why his name in the credits keeps changing
Wasn't he trying to not attract attention to himself as a product of genetic engineering... Sounds like he wasn't taking that seriously during his academy days.
Seems to be one of the few exceptions; he'd usually deliberately aim to be second best or worse at whatever he did to avoid attracting too much attention.
show me a 20 year old in college who isn't trying to show off
Those retcon pains be real ;)
Likely hadn't been thought up yet by the writers.
@@Levi_Skardsen You're right that fictional lore are often created retroactively as storylines by writers who have not seen every episode are written, but we're having fun pointing out the inconsistencies this brings.
Bashir was just showing off there.lol who would have guess he turned out to be genetically enhanced.hahaha
+CmdrSloanne mentally enhanced yes, reflexes boosted, but the games is more then just reflexes
I've always wondered why no one at a medical academy ever figured out (considering his both academic and athletic awards level) that he was genetically enhanced? How did he avoid medical checkups that would have revealed things like improved metabolic and digestive properties?
Last I heard EVERYONE in med school gets a lot more health scrutiny than normal people as they have students do basic tests on each other and examine the results. By that time in the future that would include genetic tests etc
@@josephteller9715 Thinking he's just naturally genetically gifted would've been a far more plausible explanation than him being genetically engineered. Looking at current athletes, would Lance Armstrong's lung capacity, peak energy output, low lactic acid buildup and freakish recovery speed make him genetically engineered?
@@obliviouz Why are you using a guy that was doping as an example of why we shouldn't worry about "freaks of nature" actually being that way because they broke the rules?
@@threenumbnuts Doping had literally nothing to do with Armstrong's natural freakish lung capacity - drugs don't increase your lung capacity, in case you're confused.
Chief O'Brien was getting too old for this shit, lol
Lamont Williams
THELASTLIVINGDRAGON yo
And this was Season 2!
I started to think that Bashir purposely acted like an annoying arrogant goofball so people will avoid him , in fear of discovering his augmentation.
Its cool b/c the actor himself (Siddig) has since played such serious roles. Its neat to see the comedic side.
are these the ancient battle warm ups of DORNE?
NC A
I thought it's a Zoolander legacy.
is it me, or is Bashir sticking two fingers up at the Chief before he comes in.
Yeah. Continuity though as in the previous shot, Bashir is holding an open palm towards the chief
@@timorgano i think he's doing part of the warm up exercise he shows obrien later
Being as they became such great friends by the end of the series, it's weird to look back at a time when they didn't get along so well.
I wonder how many times Alexander Siddig found his part of the script just said, "Be annoying" or "Do something weird"? I remember when when he and Kira went to the Mirror Universe. In the start of that one they had him try to meditate in the most obnoxious way possible.
And now that I think about it I can imagine Bashir's annoying factor being turned up to 11 if he was participating in Ambojitsu. They say it was the ultimate evolution in the martial arts but seriously have my doubts.
The start of a beautiful friendship.
The legacy of Zolander
"like I was some kinda fossil!" "slow down like molasses in winter!" - LOL O'Brien is really sensitive about his age
Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi
wots up Doc ?
"One."
*O'Brien phasers Bashir*
You've been served, Chief!
Reminds me of the commercials for Lazer Tag! "From Worlds of Wonder--stadium not included." :)
Was this from the time that O'Brien and Bashir weren't necessarily friends? It's been a while since I saw this series and never re-watched it later but I seem to recall that the first season or two, O'Brien didn't like the doctor much.
Yeah they hadn't hit it off yet, and O'Brien just saw Bashir as insufferable and arrogant.
Yeah it's Season 2. Not long after this they're friends. I never saw Bashir as insufferable and arrogant.
Just a bit inept at social interactions.
this was the moment that cemented bashir in pure hatred in obrians mind. for like a month. a month later and hes practically inviting jullian over to tag team his wife.
Bashir had a long uphill slog to make friends with O'Brien, but he got there in the end.
This was before it was revealed he was genetically enhanced
He beat a Vulcan in racquetball but couldn't even hit a baseball? Baseball is one of the sports that Bashir should actually be good at too.
Only if he played it before. A Vulcan would stick to the rules. Throwing the ball in such a way to vary the velocity but still end up hitting within a target zone. Then arriving at a base before a Vulcan can catch the ball. Doesn't sound easy.
I can't play tennis to save my life, but I was (been a while since I played) great at badminton. Essentially the same game, but I just couldn't get tennis... Volleyball too I was good at! I should get off my arse one day and play again
Why? In the UK we call baseball 'rounders' and its played by little girls.
I think his constant beating him at racquetball is what made Bashir throw his darts with less accuracy on purpose when they switched to that later on.
This is like watching that last swordfight between Rob Roy and Cunningham.
Great comparison
Probably, but I am sure that he's proud of his name.
It reninds me of tennis
Only his mind and reflexes were enhanced
No, he said everything but his name has been changed in that episode it got out he was genetically engineered
Oh my god. The green band and colouring on Bashir's clothes make it look like he's wearing a crop top
Khan would be proud of his superior human
I would like to see Bashir go against Data
same
That would be the most adorkable thing ever
Terran Republic encounters Vanu Sovereignty
Heh, this is before they become super-duper bestest friends forever.
I felt like this was the first time they set up that to-be-friendship. Then again, I don't remember season 1 as well since I watched it about half a year ago, while the rest I binge watched just a week ago.
That one guy in P.E.
DS9 was awesome.
Sure, squash is the one major sport to survive deep space exploration.
Makes sense. It's easy to play on a ship
They're not exploring space, they're stationary
Does Starfleet have a my PT program or PT standards
Pants and a shirt WTF.
Why is everybody saying that Bashir is an asshole? He’s literally just every good sports player I’ve ever met and additionally he’s just a little bit very weird XD Like, he’s just a socially awkward bisexual, let him live!
> every good sports player
> star trek fans
; )
They claim this is traditional raquetball but then he serves front wall to back wall (a "long" serve) which should be an out-of-bounds foul and a second serve of the same point. I now have no clue what they're playing. Squash maybe?
It's definitely not squash.
Incorrect, as he admitted to lying to Starfleet Medical about his history via Section 31.
@cantorock Brilliant name, though
The sexual tension is apparent, even this early into the series.
Oh I cannot unread that now...
I Loved JULIAN'S suit! ; )
You know, I think the costume designers were just looking for another reason to make Sid squeeze into a form-fitting costume. :D
You... do??
The doctor needed a lesson in humility. He doesn't remember he has his ability because someone broke the law and made him superior to others.
Didnt he only get mental enhancements
@@digitaljungle7154 No. It was just the first priority. He had perfect coordination as well.
So they’re playing squash
I'd play against someone better than me any time of the week. Helps me learn and strive to be better.
This works when the difference in skill is not that great. I think this would be more like a middle-schooler playing a pro. It's no fun for the pro because there is not even the slightest challenge, and it's no fun for the kid because he is so out-classed, it makes improving hard.
It would be much more beneficial to play someone only a little better than you.
@@Sindraug25 I think it would depend on if that pro was willing to dole out bits of advice and tricks during and after play. I would have no problems being beat over and over by a pro at something if they were willing to teach while doing so. If it was an absolute jerk I was up against... that'd be a different story.
What sneakers is O'Brien wearing?
Nike Section 31's
Holy cow!
That silver outfit! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
thry should have inserted Garak into this scene somehow, hahaha
Another great example of how O'Brien must suffer...
OMG its hannibal
no it's not O_o
Actually, yes it is! th-cam.com/video/T7E-8CL4n-I/w-d-xo.html
looks a bit like squash
Its in the same family of games: In the UK, Squash aka Squash 57 was previously called Racketball until 2016. Racquetball (US) uses a softer ball and the ceiling is not out of bounds. Hardball Squash (US) is similar to Squash 57 as it uses a harder ball.
@@jezz2k Wow you must really like racketball to know this
@@limiv5272 Not really. I looked it up.
Bashir had to have made up that warm up. It looked to ridiculous not only that he's genetically engineered. He shouldn't need warm ups.
But we didn't know at the time bout him when this episode first aired.
Neither did the writers...
1:03 to 1:06 would make a nice gif.
How those two became such close friends, is unbelievable. I guess Miles would find any excuse to be away from Keiko.
Oh, BTW, I'm not going to mention I'm genetically enhanced for superior hand-eye coordination.
If I was a O'Brian I'd hate Julian
bashir should try baseketball, he's good at the psyche-out 🤣
What I don't get is why he has to wear his officer colour on that thing.
It's probably the outfit he wore when he was on the medical academy tennis team
Actually in this episode some how the balances of luck are put of balance by some gambling machines in a casino next to quarks and it dos not matter if bashir is biologically better because the odds are against him
I dunno why but Bashir seems to make for really lousy image thumbnails. He's not photogenic or something. In this case he looks like he's wearing a teenage girl's crop top.
Sahuagin, He wears that on the weekends.
Now that you said it I can't unsee it
Brilliant so you are telling me you were there when Bashir was tested. You must have been there when Bashir was able to lie to Stafleet medical too, I bet you experienced it all. Tell me more jokes TJ
Is this episode bad because of Joe Menosky?
Siddiq is underrated.
People wonder why I hate Bashir
Looking at it from O’Brien’s point of view it’s probably better he versus somebody genetically enhanced. Going against the best makes you better all around.
Ngl, I have no idea what this game is
TheRealTerranMarine looks like future squash
I love this scene, I think it was the start of their friendship , or at least what sparked it
Statistically the video gets one downvote a year
pity they don't write any enjoyable ST shows any more . . .
lower decks is great fun
Obrien looks out of shape period
It’s hard to explain exactly why but Julian Bashir is the most attractive man possible to me
Genetically Modified Bashire cheats
It doesn't matter here anyway due to Chris Sarandon's luck device. They just keep playing without either losing.
I wouldn't count it as cheating since he was a child when all fo that happened, it wasnt his choice.
@Illogicbomb In the case of this specific episode my reason makes more sense but any other time yeah.
true true~
Why doesn't O'Brien just use a holosuite?
Quark owns them that's why.
This game should be played nude.
Lol Bashir is so fucking skinny no muscle tone at all
He's so thin. I love thin men. They're so rare. Every men wants to be all big and muscular these days.
All that bragging on how he has won at racket ball. And he was genetically engineered.
the cringe must flow I guess
Meaney throws like a girl 😂😂 its so distracting. Same with the baseball episode. I mean...when they seen him throw a ball...did no one try to help him with his form??
You have a fucking holodeck and you choose to play some kind of racket ball? I'd be fucking and fighting... all day long. These characters are unrealistic.
Dunno why people find this "friendship" so appealing. In his conversations with Bashir, O'Brien ALWAYS comes across as cranky, irritated, impatient, or angry. In short, a Negative Nancy. Even in the later seasons when Bashir's happy-go-lucky attitude had calmed down a bit. O'Brien's character really devolved from bland in TNG to downright nauseating here.