It's really very relevant... I can't understand why some people come here without knowing the science and without making any extensive research. In 2018 it's very painful that we are still stuck in this decriminalization. I just think personally it should have to go one step forward at this time.Its be better if we discuss about "homosexual marriage" but we are stuck in the 1862 damp law....its really ridiculous..
Not the whole section is irrelevant... It just needs amendment to exclude any two consenting sane adults from it's purview... We can't allow bestiality, pedophilia, extreme BDSM, etc...
Vibhor pratap singh You mention, and kindly so, about excluding two consenting sane adults from its purview. I don't think you have the qualifications to conduct a litmus test to come to a conclusion that meets the definition of sane. You also mention we can't allow extreme BDSM etc. Extreme is open to interpretation by anyone who has an opinion. Your interpretation may different than mine. It's really nobody's business what two consenting adults do in privacy. That includes hotels, motels, or the back seat of a car. I must admit though some cars don't create an environment for romance. You take a boring car like a Toyota. I bet you a dollar to a donut you never heard a cry of ecstasy emerge from the back seat of one of them. But a five litre four barrel Mustang? They have to put heavy duty shock absorbers on them to keep up with the action in the back seats. All carried out by consenting adults I might add. So if two people want to engage in sex, swinging from a chandelier it's nobody's business, neither yours or mine. So I would ask you when you are giving an opinion and use the word we, could you kindly say this doesn't include James_Langan. Isn't democracy great Vibhor, so lets you and me just keep on rockin' in the free world.
James langan firstly, yes there are many tests to determine sanity as propounded by courts and jurists. These interpretations are widely used in range of legal cases including criminal, matrimonial, contractual cases etc. Secondly, right to privacy between two consenting sane adults is of utmost importance but anything detrimental to human dignity if done out of privacy has to be controlled. Thirdly, you missed the point of bestiality which would still require a law of crimes for prohibition. Hence section 377 in it's present form may be Draconian but instead of scrapping it out altogether we need to amend it and add provisos.
Vibhor pratap singh I didn't miss any points to be honest. I was using satire in my reply to you. I used it to try to get you soften your approach and stand when we're dealing with people's lives. Emotional and mental health of each other should be paramount. Why should anybody have any right to deprive someone of affection and love that comes in many forms. Let's start taking care of each other. Life can be hard enough as it is. No Vibhor, I don't miss too much. This isn't my first rodeo. What did you think of that five litre four barrel Mustang. Did you like that one.
Ohhh nice debate on Section 377 Seriously Section 377 should go in dustbin that is only place for Section 377.... Missing Lakshmi Narayan Tripathi in this debate... Sab Alien kii vaat Laga detii...😂😂🙏 Love you maa❤️😍💐( Laxmi mam)
Human Being Don't back down now. I can't see that Supreme Court ruling against it and becoming a laughing stock among the judiciary of the free world. Keep the push on. Does your group have lawyers who are experts in international law represent you in any shape or form. Either paid or pro bono.
Human Being I'm sorry. I thought it was the other way around. Did I ever get the wrong end of that stick. My apologies. And I've being laying a beating on your Government every chance I get on the sites and giving kudos to the court for doing what their supposed to do under the Constitution. I must have read a site that gave me that impression. As one human being to another I just don't know what to say.
Human Being I think my reply at the end will explain my remarks that were made with good intentions. I was talking about not backing down from the government.
I am a tamil iyengar, we are a very tiny minority in India, by Kritika khatri's argument our fundamental rights also should be up for debate... Absolutely shitty argument .... Its time to get rid of 377 And btw MADAM , marriage is a human institution not a natural institution.... Nature doesnt have marriages.... So is religion unnatural but synthetic made by humans... These people dont understand science or logic... All that sawdust or gowmutram for brains
@@yagnampathak7327 she is allowing each member to put their point of view But when their point of view is wrong she needs to correct them It's not a political debate to be nuetral it's a matter of human rights and freedom Say tmrw someone supports terrorism and do you think she should not correct them to be "neutral" Its not a game or sport it's truth vs false Even in sports if one player does something wrong umpire penalises the player because that's right
Now I have to comment...Which Sansthaaaa this Kritika madam is from...I could not believe her statements..Soooo hypocite and backdated. She is so confusing, dumb and unclear with her points..She is actually making joke about herself...Sashay awayyyyyyyyyyyyy
Best debate I have ever seen about Homosexuality.. 👍 and Kritika my god I have never seen a foolish woman like her.. 😅😅😅 I fully supported LGBTQ...keep going...💪💪👭👬💪💪
Why is that caption saying privacy in THEIR BEDROOMS on the screen. Why doesn't it say OUR BEDROOMS. It has a ring of discrimination against Gays, Lesbians and all the LBGT community of India. Take that caption DOWN and start recognizing you don't refer to communities as THEM OR THEIR. THE MORE INCLUSIVE WORD IS US.
agr haq nhi doge to log normal kaise behave krenge aur society mai change nhi laoge ab to wo accept kaise krenge .time chaiye per har Kisi ke pas time hai kha???
Aur abhi bhi same sex marriage allowed nhi kiya.ek insaan ki individual rights uska fir kya hua??. kya fir s 100 se 200 sal lagenge same sex marriage ke liyee..How can someone convinced their parents to love and marriage.if we have not rights .Why it takes too much time and no one can think or talk about it.Yaa bhut saari problem hai per solutions nikalo.aur sabko apne hisab s jeene do kya ab marriage krne ke liye dusare country jaye vha per struggle kre aur middle class aur gareeb logo ka kya wo kaise afford krenge out of country
Can anyone please please please suggest any section to protect straight spouse arranged marriage with gay or lesbian. Marriage or union should be mutual and not forced! Please stop marrying straight ppl for the sake of family and society. P.S I know this comment is irrelevant to the topic but I am desperately looking for an answers. My intention is not to hurt LGBTQ community. I am just seeking for an answer.
Faye if you have guts than do a debate with me, you don't challenge any old beliefs you simply try to pretend as if you are modern by being against our culture, but you still have same rotten ideas about education, religion and everything, if you have guts than challenge formal school education, corrupt medical education n capitalist thinking,
That opening introduction by vikram sir and hi-five made my day!
It's really very relevant... I can't understand why some people come here without knowing the science and without making any extensive research. In 2018 it's very painful that we are still stuck in this decriminalization. I just think personally it should have to go one step forward at this time.Its be better if we discuss about "homosexual marriage" but we are stuck in the 1862 damp law....its really ridiculous..
I lovd it when faye gave hifive
377 should b throw into dustbin as it is irrelevant
Not the whole section is irrelevant... It just needs amendment to exclude any two consenting sane adults from it's purview...
We can't allow bestiality, pedophilia, extreme BDSM, etc...
Vibhor pratap singh You mention, and kindly so, about excluding two consenting sane adults from its purview. I don't think you have the qualifications to conduct a litmus test to come to a conclusion that meets the definition of sane. You also mention we can't allow extreme BDSM etc. Extreme is open to interpretation by anyone who has an opinion. Your interpretation may different than mine. It's really nobody's business what two consenting adults do in privacy. That includes hotels, motels, or the back seat of a car. I must admit though some cars don't create an environment for romance. You take a boring car like a Toyota. I bet you a dollar to a donut you never heard a cry of ecstasy emerge from the back seat of one of them. But a five litre four barrel Mustang? They have to put heavy duty shock absorbers on them to keep up with the action in the back seats. All carried out by consenting adults I might add. So if two people want to engage in sex, swinging from a chandelier it's nobody's business, neither yours or mine. So I would ask you when you are giving an opinion and use the word we, could you kindly say this doesn't include James_Langan. Isn't democracy great Vibhor, so lets you and me just keep on rockin' in the free world.
James langan firstly, yes there are many tests to determine sanity as propounded by courts and jurists. These interpretations are widely used in range of legal cases including criminal, matrimonial, contractual cases etc.
Secondly, right to privacy between two consenting sane adults is of utmost importance but anything detrimental to human dignity if done out of privacy has to be controlled.
Thirdly, you missed the point of bestiality which would still require a law of crimes for prohibition.
Hence section 377 in it's present form may be Draconian but instead of scrapping it out altogether we need to amend it and add provisos.
Vibhor pratap singh I didn't miss any points to be honest. I was using satire in my reply to you. I used it to try to get you soften your approach and stand when we're dealing with people's lives. Emotional and mental health of each other should be paramount. Why should anybody have any right to deprive someone of affection and love that comes in many forms. Let's start taking care of each other. Life can be hard enough as it is. No Vibhor, I don't miss too much. This isn't my first rodeo. What did you think of that five litre four barrel Mustang. Did you like that one.
James langan 😀😀😀yes that was appropriate (I think) and well used...
Huge huge huge respect for vikram sir....we need more people like you sir!!😱😘😘
Good for the Dgp
Minority???? More than 30 million people waiting 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
377 ko htana chahiye...
Ohhh nice debate on Section 377
Seriously Section 377 should go in dustbin that is only place for Section 377....
Missing Lakshmi Narayan Tripathi in this debate... Sab Alien kii vaat Laga detii...😂😂🙏 Love you maa❤️😍💐( Laxmi mam)
Sonusid sonu 😂😂😂😂
Yay for the dgp😃😃😃
Why would court decide whom I should love
rajesh rai Because narrow minded fools create the Government and courts.
Human Being You got rid of those parasites didn't you.
Human Being Don't back down now. I can't see that Supreme Court ruling against it and becoming a laughing stock among the judiciary of the free world. Keep the push on. Does your group have lawyers who are experts in international law represent you in any shape or form. Either paid or pro bono.
Human Being I'm sorry. I thought it was the other way around. Did I ever get the wrong end of that stick. My apologies. And I've being laying a beating on your Government every chance I get on the sites and giving kudos to the court for doing what their supposed to do under the Constitution. I must have read a site that gave me that impression. As one human being to another I just don't know what to say.
Human Being I think my reply at the end will explain my remarks that were made with good intentions. I was talking about not backing down from the government.
When Faye gave a hi Fi I was literally dead! Yeah! Go girl😘😘😘
One of the best debate on sec377 I have seen so far. Faye has handled it really well. More power to you mam.
Kritika please don't give this type of arguments..... Please
I am a tamil iyengar, we are a very tiny minority in India, by Kritika khatri's argument our fundamental rights also should be up for debate... Absolutely shitty argument .... Its time to get rid of 377
And btw MADAM , marriage is a human institution not a natural institution.... Nature doesnt have marriages.... So is religion unnatural but synthetic made by humans... These people dont understand science or logic... All that sawdust or gowmutram for brains
I have heard DGP last time about this. And now after heard him really good DGP....
if we live by the population percentage, chickens should rule the world
haha
Hrithik Gupta 😂😂wooooh !
Human Being i was just explaining with an example, if you wanna be specific it should be jellyfish of something
Human Being and tbh, chickens ruling the world is funnier than ants, a world ruled by ants would be terrifying
😘
I love Fay the way you have defined the journalism in your own way... It is refreshing to watch you talking about real issues in your way...
I thought the Anchor must be neutral especially in debates..
She herself taking 'A' side in A vs B debate!
Taking right stand is more important than taking neutral stand
@@Sk-if4hf when U r the host n calling 2 players to represent their part
U simply can't join ur personal bias
'right' side is subjective.
@@yagnampathak7327 she is allowing each member to put their point of view
But when their point of view is wrong she needs to correct them
It's not a political debate to be nuetral it's a matter of human rights and freedom
Say tmrw someone supports terrorism and do you think she should not correct them to be "neutral"
Its not a game or sport it's truth vs false
Even in sports if one player does something wrong umpire penalises the player because that's right
@@Sk-if4hf Agreed over this 👍🏼
Faye you just nailed the discussion at 18:45. Hats off
Love knows No GENDER age Caste race Religion
Love knows No GENDER age Caste race Religion
SHUBHAM ILHE you're right. Now if we could only say the same about life itself.
It's not love. It's LUST.
From which planet is krithika coming from?
Shermin's Vlog main hu he nahi iss duniya ki 👌
She just doesn't understand english
she hails from Iran
Krittika doesn't know what she is saying !!
Go away 377
The way Faye summed it up in the end!!! I mean hands down!!🙇♂🙇♂
ms kritika you should educate your self about Human right.....
exactly
It seems she is educated only by the Bible 😂😂
Youth want scraping of Section 377. Democracy means voice of minorities are heard.
At this point I would like to have an grandpa like Vikram sir .....
Lots of love 🙂🙂
section 377 chapter should be closed very soon
Faye is best
Yeh kritika dihaati jaise baat karri hai 😐😐😐 "kuch bhi"
Nice debet
Now I have to comment...Which Sansthaaaa this Kritika madam is from...I could not believe her statements..Soooo hypocite and backdated. She is so confusing, dumb and unclear with her points..She is actually making joke about herself...Sashay awayyyyyyyyyyyyy
A 💜
Best debate I have ever seen about Homosexuality.. 👍 and Kritika my god I have never seen a foolish woman like her.. 😅😅😅 I fully supported LGBTQ...keep going...💪💪👭👬💪💪
This debate is peaceful
On the screen Demand 4 and 5 is same!!!
Why is that caption saying privacy in THEIR BEDROOMS on the screen. Why doesn't it say OUR BEDROOMS. It has a ring of discrimination against Gays, Lesbians and all the LBGT community of India. Take that caption DOWN and start recognizing you don't refer to communities as THEM OR THEIR. THE MORE INCLUSIVE WORD IS US.
Who is this kritika khatri 🤣🤣🤣
This anchor herself a product of British colonial era
Proudly gay 🤘🤘🤘❤❤
agr haq nhi doge to log normal kaise behave krenge aur society mai change nhi laoge ab to wo accept kaise krenge
.time chaiye per har Kisi ke pas time hai kha???
Throw sec 377 because i say that I’m gay
this debate is still very special :)
tomorrow the Sc will again hear the case.. best wishes !
I love Jerry Johnson
KARTIKA KHATRI - tumara kuch nahi ho sakta... Tumse nahi ho payega hahaha
Aur abhi bhi same sex marriage allowed nhi kiya.ek insaan ki individual rights uska fir kya hua??. kya fir s 100 se 200 sal lagenge same sex marriage ke liyee..How can someone convinced their parents to love and marriage.if we have not rights .Why it takes too much time and no one can think or talk about it.Yaa bhut saari problem hai per solutions nikalo.aur sabko apne hisab s jeene do
kya ab marriage krne ke liye dusare country jaye vha per struggle kre
aur middle class aur gareeb logo ka kya wo kaise afford krenge out of country
dont bother with this guy > Akash dwivedi... he must have studied science in the gowshala of higher mutram...
I want to be surrounded by these kind of people
Just like ellen degeneres India have faye dsouza best journalist luv u mam
Is every sanatan sanstha member is identical to this lady empress?
Dibakar Halder u r from Kolkata too!!
Kritika khatri from Sanatan Sansthan is a misinformed person on this panel.
❤❤❤👍
we want fredom
Can anyone please please please suggest any section to protect straight spouse arranged marriage with gay or lesbian. Marriage or union should be mutual and not forced! Please stop marrying straight ppl for the sake of family and society. P.S I know this comment is irrelevant to the topic but I am desperately looking for an answers. My intention is not to hurt LGBTQ community. I am just seeking for an answer.
Faye if you have guts than do a debate with me, you don't challenge any old beliefs you simply try to pretend as if you are modern by being against our culture, but you still have same rotten ideas about education, religion and everything, if you have guts than challenge formal school education, corrupt medical education n capitalist thinking,
Agla janam lena padega tb jakar Normal life milegi 😊 india m to