As a Sacramento fan, I dont really watch too many Cavs games but recently my Kings played against them and I gotta say....Spida and entire Cavs punkd Kings like Steph/Dubs did it in 2023 R1G7. Actually, Max Strus and Levert are the ones people are not talking about. Alex, if possible, make a video about best role players from playoffs teams
Was just thinking I’d love to see a “Specialists” Tier List on The Shootaround pod. Alex, Rusty, and Rudy arguing over what defines a “specialist” would be peak content.
Look folks, I've been a Cavs fans since the Astin Carr era, its apparent why DM is not in the MVP conversation,its because the media has no respect for the Cleveland Cav's, it would be different if DM was playing with a big market team
If he was on the Lakers or Knicks he'd for sure be in talks. Media is so weird bc they never talk about the Cavs but absolutely LOVE the Browns and even handed a trophy to Myles Garrett for DPOY when he vanished the last 7 weeks of the season. I just don't get it
@@jeffeyjeffey8The nfl media and nba media are two separate entities. People like cleveland in football bc they’re perennially a laughing-stock, the cavs were great less than 10 years ago
@@jeffeyjeffey8the Knicks? Bro stop it, the NbA hates the Knicks.. Jalen Brunson is doing just as good as Mitchell and no one but NY talking about Jalen being mvp
Love that you mentioned Mitchell as a legit MVP candidate. Tired of the same candidates every season. I will however say that I can’t trust the construction of this roster come playoff time. We haven’t seen two bigs that can’t score outside the paint win together in the last decade, and haven’t seen two 6’1 guards win in probably even longer than that. Let alone both occurrences on the same team.
@@cedwards2845 he has been shooting better this year but shots outside of 10 feet still account for only like 2 percent of his shot diet. That doesn’t help much when your front court mate is not shooting outside the restricted area.
The key is to stagger minutes as much as possible. Mitchell should always share the floor with Allen and Garland should aways share the court with mobley, but limit how much time all 4 play together
Donovan is right up there but it's doubtful anyone other than SGA will win it this year. Luka's team isn't good enough (again) and Jokic has won it twice already. The NBA doesn't like giving it to the same person every year.
The story cycle is dominated with the fact that everybody thinks he's going to leave Cleveland. Maybe there's something about this perceived temporary nature there that is distracting people from voting for him for MVP.
He's been amazing, but let's be honest, he's only going to as far as 'in the conversation' for MVP. There are players who are more genuine contenders for the award
But are they really, or is it a product of media narrative? Frankly, if you watch the Cavs, you can say he is a top 3 most VALUABLE player on his team. Doncic team stinks, only Jokic and SGA I personally feel should be above him.
cavs dont get any media since lebron left, i dont think we are real contenders but i wont be suprised if dmitch takes us to the eastern confrence finals
They only talk about Mitchell when its about him potentially jumping ship the moment the offseason starts..basically just fantasy booking him in another jersey instead of watching him and the Cavs play 🙄
It’s Cleveland versus the world yet again. What else is new? When he comes up in conversation, it’s never about how well he’s doing or how well the Cavs are doing with him… it’s about “when is he going to the Knicks??” It’s so obnoxious
DM points don't seem to hold any weight in any important way he's e empty stats been putting up these numbers for years and it takes his team no where Donovan is sure fire number 2 He's forced into 1 in cle but on a true contender he's 2 or 3 option in my mind 💯
I drafted Devin booker and tyreese haliburton over SGA and Donovan Mitchell, regret it everyday💀 (chill it was my first time in years watching/analyzing basketball in year)
Hes not in the convo because the cavs have easily the grossest unis in the league. No one outside of ohio can bare to subject themselves to the pure torture of looking at those dead kits. So we are missing out on spida being a superstar
I never got why they had 2 ball dominant guards and 2 big men who did the same thing in the starting lineup. Now that garland and mobley are injured they finally see what spida can do with allen, both are great players and were held back by having 2 guys that negatively affect their game in the starting lineup. Hopefully they trade garland and try to turn mobley to a 6th man role or other way around. They would win 6th man of the year every year and be a positive to the team.
On 5 years or so he'll end up in today's Westbrook's place .don't get me wrong though. No shame in that at all! He is so strong and athletic The way he tosses off defenders on his drives is unreal... ...i love Donovan .remember guys when he won dunk contest and afterwards for interview he sat there with his mom and wee Sisi ?
Mitchell’s gravity has Evan Mobley shooting 41% from 3. That alone should put him in the top 5 in the MVP race. He’s also #4 in the NBA in net rating. He’s clearly among the top 5 MVP candidates. If the season ended today I’d probably give it to Luka, but that team just isn’t excelling like Cleveland and Boston are so I’d say Mitchell and Tatum are right there
@@justinholland6132 Nice extreme logic. You talking like there are only casuals and elitists in our society. There are bunch of people in the middle. Just like me.
@@dearmas9068 so you just assume I am a knicks fan? Hmm.. and besides that, its not about the opinion of the knicks fans, its about spida's. He is a knick.
@@derfdessert773 in my opinion, spida is not the best fit, so I agree with that. But I'm sure it will happen and its just the matter of time. Brunson would play more off ball, like in dallas, but thats not that bad because he can't create for others. He is a walking bucket [for himself].
If he doesn't ball hog so much in the playoffs, cavs can win it all. Thats his problem, he shoots too much in the playoffs. Downfall during his utah days.
lets be honest, he can be in the mvp conversation. But does he have a real shot? No. Shai easily has better stats and efficiency, plus his team is probably top the league. his win shares are also double of Mitchells. So yeah, we can talk about him, but realistically shai easily outclasses him for MVP
Because as good as he is. No one believes in this team after what Jarret allen and evan mobley said about the bright lights of the playoffs lol mitchell is gonna ball and they're gonna get owned again
Donovan Mitchell is top __ in the MVP race 👇
He’s top 3 at least.
Playing both ends of the floor while leading a 2 seed team is worthy of MVP award.
Go Cavs!
not even top 5
6
4/5
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As a Sacramento fan, I dont really watch too many Cavs games but recently my Kings played against them and I gotta say....Spida and entire Cavs punkd Kings like Steph/Dubs did it in 2023 R1G7. Actually, Max Strus and Levert are the ones people are not talking about. Alex, if possible, make a video about best role players from playoffs teams
Good video idea 💯
Was just thinking I’d love to see a “Specialists” Tier List on The Shootaround pod.
Alex, Rusty, and Rudy arguing over what defines a “specialist” would be peak content.
please
I agree. I'm a Cavs fan but Levert and Max are really playing well.
But Spida is having a special season.
Thank you for talking about the Cavs without any Donovan trade rumors.
He's not going anywhere.
Ya, better give him the world, because he's going to get better, a lot better.
Cavs have done a much better job of spacing the floor and getting him downhill to create advantages and maximize his playmaking this year
He's a tremendous talent. The Cavs are going to be a problem come playoff time.
As someone relatively new to watching the NBA, your videos help to get a small understanding of the tactical side of things, thank you!
Look folks, I've been a Cavs fans since the Astin Carr era, its apparent why DM is not in the MVP conversation,its because the media has no respect for the Cleveland Cav's, it would be different if DM was playing with a big market team
The fact that he’s not in the MVP conversation is absolutely absurd.
If he was on the Lakers or Knicks he'd for sure be in talks. Media is so weird bc they never talk about the Cavs but absolutely LOVE the Browns and even handed a trophy to Myles Garrett for DPOY when he vanished the last 7 weeks of the season. I just don't get it
who'd you take out from the pool of Luka, Giannis, Jokic and SGA to shove him in?
@@jeffeyjeffey8The nfl media and nba media are two separate entities. People like cleveland in football bc they’re perennially a laughing-stock, the cavs were great less than 10 years ago
@@duyanhng8430 I would be fine with him over luka for mvp talks.
@@jeffeyjeffey8the Knicks? Bro stop it, the NbA hates the Knicks.. Jalen Brunson is doing just as good as Mitchell and no one but NY talking about Jalen being mvp
Love that you mentioned Mitchell as a legit MVP candidate. Tired of the same candidates every season. I will however say that I can’t trust the construction of this roster come playoff time. We haven’t seen two bigs that can’t score outside the paint win together in the last decade, and haven’t seen two 6’1 guards win in probably even longer than that. Let alone both occurrences on the same team.
Mobley can score outside the paint
@@cedwards2845 he has been shooting better this year but shots outside of 10 feet still account for only like 2 percent of his shot diet. That doesn’t help much when your front court mate is not shooting outside the restricted area.
The key is to stagger minutes as much as possible. Mitchell should always share the floor with Allen and Garland should aways share the court with mobley, but limit how much time all 4 play together
Two 6’1 dudes won in 2019 vanvleet/lowry
@@Sleazemcnair they weren’t both starting
Finally Cavs getting attention they deserve 🙏🏿 thank you 😁
Mitchell is a top 5 MVP candidate!
SGA,Mitchell,GREEK,LUKA,
Jokic,
actually 9th according to Vegas
he's gotten better year after year, his scoring and shooting is elite and his defense has also improved significantly in the last 2 seasons
I never knew he was THAT good especially on defense. I might become a little of a fan
Mitchell is my fave route player in the league
Nice👩🏽🍳
Great video!! Love the stuff ❤
Crazy how 28.3 points on a 2nd seed won’t get you in any mvps talks nowadays. Ridiculous how mvp voters overlook these guys.
Love your analysis, the only problem I have is that you used the washington defense in an example hahaha
Media and fans will always take what he does with a grain of salt until he has deep playoff success. That’s just how it works i guess
He got the Jazz to a 3-1 lead in the WCF. Is it only a “deep” run if he takes a team to the finals?
Donovan is right up there but it's doubtful anyone other than SGA will win it this year. Luka's team isn't good enough (again) and Jokic has won it twice already. The NBA doesn't like giving it to the same person every year.
The story cycle is dominated with the fact that everybody thinks he's going to leave Cleveland.
Maybe there's something about this perceived temporary nature there that is distracting people from voting for him for MVP.
Severely underrated. Got robbed by ben simmons for roy imo as well. Gonna be an all star for a long time. Hopefully people start noticing
You should make a Podz video, he's been crazy
He's been amazing, but let's be honest, he's only going to as far as 'in the conversation' for MVP. There are players who are more genuine contenders for the award
But are they really, or is it a product of media narrative? Frankly, if you watch the Cavs, you can say he is a top 3 most VALUABLE player on his team. Doncic team stinks, only Jokic and SGA I personally feel should be above him.
@@essential_listening are we voting for most valuable player or most valuable cav 😂
I think he stacks up against both Tatum and Luka, especially as a two way player who is elite in the mid range and at the rim.
cavs dont get any media since lebron left, i dont think we are real contenders but i wont be suprised if dmitch takes us to the eastern confrence finals
They only talk about Mitchell when its about him potentially jumping ship the moment the offseason starts..basically just fantasy booking him in another jersey instead of watching him and the Cavs play 🙄
That's because the media only wants star players on large market teams.
0:35 idk what type of no call that was but lol dude is definitely mvp worthy. He was an impact since he stepped onto the Jazz’s court
I'll keep my expectations low until he performs and achieves well in the playoffs.
No !
It’s Cleveland versus the world yet again. What else is new? When he comes up in conversation, it’s never about how well he’s doing or how well the Cavs are doing with him… it’s about “when is he going to the Knicks??” It’s so obnoxious
Wish my team Chicago had him
W content creator 🔛🔝
Where is garland?
God bless everyone and have a wonderful day ❤🙏
DM points don't seem to hold any weight in any important way he's e empty stats been putting up these numbers for years and it takes his team no where
Donovan is sure fire number 2
He's forced into 1 in cle but on a true contender he's 2 or 3 option in my mind
💯
I've never understood ts% what does it actually mean
It's fg% but counts 3s as 3 points
@@allele8995its a metric calculated by efficiency and points scored
As good as he is playing it's hard to put him above SGA
Can you make a Paul George breakdown
I drafted Devin booker and tyreese haliburton over SGA and Donovan Mitchell, regret it everyday💀 (chill it was my first time in years watching/analyzing basketball in year)
Feel like Brunson should also be in this convo by this logic
Why? Brunson doesn’t have nearly the same defensive impact or net rating, or team success.
Probably not. Just because fans outside of Cleveland not really paying attention.
Hes not in the convo because the cavs have easily the grossest unis in the league. No one outside of ohio can bare to subject themselves to the pure torture of looking at those dead kits. So we are missing out on spida being a superstar
Simple answer… no?
No, no he is not.
No
I called it
His referee assist numbers going up🎉
I never got why they had 2 ball dominant guards and 2 big men who did the same thing in the starting lineup. Now that garland and mobley are injured they finally see what spida can do with allen, both are great players and were held back by having 2 guys that negatively affect their game in the starting lineup. Hopefully they trade garland and try to turn mobley to a 6th man role or other way around. They would win 6th man of the year every year and be a positive to the team.
On 5 years or so he'll end up in today's Westbrook's place .don't get me wrong though. No shame in that at all! He is so strong and athletic
The way he tosses off defenders on his drives is unreal...
...i love Donovan .remember guys when he won dunk contest and afterwards for interview he sat there with his mom and wee Sisi
?
bro does not know ball
Mitchell’s gravity has Evan Mobley shooting 41% from 3. That alone should put him in the top 5 in the MVP race. He’s also #4 in the NBA in net rating. He’s clearly among the top 5 MVP candidates. If the season ended today I’d probably give it to Luka, but that team just isn’t excelling like Cleveland and Boston are so I’d say Mitchell and Tatum are right there
Once again I think Milwaukee should’ve gotten dmitch ova dame
how? You just can't randomly pick which player play where you want them to.
No,Luka is the MVP
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He is the MVP as of now.
Because Jokic, Giannis, Shai, Luka, Kawhi, Tatum etc are all better than him.
Why is no1 talking bout him? He’s carrying his team by himself with most of his best teammates missing lots of games
Yea the casual mindset
@@abouttime2569better to be a casual than elitist.
@@TheyhateJay_2005he definitely isn’t carrying and garland is back
@@justinholland6132 Nice extreme logic. You talking like there are only casuals and elitists in our society. There are bunch of people in the middle. Just like me.
Future Knick.
@@dearmas9068 so you just assume I am a knicks fan? Hmm.. and besides that, its not about the opinion of the knicks fans, its about spida's. He is a knick.
@@Yogenachi Why the hell would the Knicks sign him when they have Brunson?
@@derfdessert773 in my opinion, spida is not the best fit, so I agree with that. But I'm sure it will happen and its just the matter of time. Brunson would play more off ball, like in dallas, but thats not that bad because he can't create for others. He is a walking bucket [for himself].
except Donovan publicly has repeated his desire to play for the Knicks. NYC or Cleveland? choice is easy. no one chooses Cleveland. @@dearmas9068
Knicks need this dude badly
Well, not really lmao
They don't though. His role would be redundant as they already have brunson
@@dearmas9068 yap session
If he doesn't ball hog so much in the playoffs, cavs can win it all. Thats his problem, he shoots too much in the playoffs. Downfall during his utah days.
lets be honest, he can be in the mvp conversation. But does he have a real shot? No. Shai easily has better stats and efficiency, plus his team is probably top the league. his win shares are also double of Mitchells. So yeah, we can talk about him, but realistically shai easily outclasses him for MVP
Yeah, his team is top in the league with elite scorers like Dean Wade and George Nyang.
Because as good as he is. No one believes in this team after what Jarret allen and evan mobley said about the bright lights of the playoffs lol mitchell is gonna ball and they're gonna get owned again
Overrated