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the true skadi buff is 6 enemy nodes
a really good buff would have been anything on her 3rd skill. yes a 50% is huge but not having a np/star gain or even a normal atk up is just lacking compared to other top supports (yes I mean castoria)
With np gain we can get more np loop servants and that seems good
She's good as she is. I hate power creep.
They should have made the evade at least be able to stack with other evades 😔
Doesn’t matter because so many enemies have sure hit
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Honestly it doesn't really change much about her role as a support. You would need to go out of your way to give her a kscope and max append her charge skill to get the np for farming while general play it's almost impossible to do it naturally as quick doesn't give much charge.
Her competition like double waver and Merlin can get to 60 with skills and append and double castoria at 0 could get to 100 turn one with just her first skills max append and the 20 charge mystic code if somehow you needed help getting an extra np for some reason or turn one np.
Overall for those who like longer play quick units this will make skadis np somewhat more useful but I don't see much of a change to her overall play set as her death gimmick was destoryed after ereshkigal got one which is faster and does damage at the same time so she trades one for the other.
Eh, using support NPs for farming is sus you're supposed to reduce the farm time not increase it.
Merlin np never gets any TA use out of me since it doesn't give damage up the only one which gets any regular use out of me was waver and now reines who gives more attack mod compared for a T3 nuke.
Skadis np buff is trying to subscribe to the new NP stacking meta which was brought with Castoria Van Gogh and miss Crane which is fine, gives quick a new option/approach for units that don't have good card performance and prefer to get carried along side the newly added Martha I could see some potential for support quick NPs since Martha gives 50% powerod against many traits and a 70% attack up for the DPS. On the other side this makes Skadi a decent 3rd member in the double Van Gogh setup for stalls since she gives a very long term attack up tho a healer like the new Martha could also be a budget option worth checking.
Quick support eresh Vs king Hassan and the ruler pillar in Agartha pogchamp literally the only 2 times instant death was relavent KEKW.
@@ACertainMan yeah it's especially unneeded with the whole 6 wave Farming thing and the damage won't be an issue in general. It's extremely niche and only wastes time not help.
Merlin and waver were just examples of how the other support casters were and are better at np gain in general play getting a start at 60 with just append and thier charge skills while skadi at most is at 20
Martha I like. She looks cute and it's logical for her to get it as well as makes her a nice heal support attack booster for people to get as well as somehow being better at np gain than skadi on release. Skadi will probably still stay a meme so unless you directly go out of your way to charge it up but that will just make battles run longer or force a kscope instead of just using her bond ce instead for the constant support instead.
You forgot cu and old hag cq too as well as any Hassan battle or death situation np like lobo and so on. Those come up eventually and while we can't trigger it the enemy can. It's an annoying system but overall ereshkigal still does it better as she will probably have double Merlin or Merlin vitch to help her do it again and again. Skadi really can't do it without Merlin or castoria to protect her and get her charged up faster.
@@ivanbluecool @ivanbluecool if you wanna compare the quick stallers to waver and merlin then double Van Gogh can start with full guage T1 very easily, Skadis np gain is equivalent to tam in that regard, I never use support bond ces as they are generally inferior to support NPs so they are never a thought to cross my mind
Like if I want to charge a support casters np I never use there cards so it's just a matter of cost allocation on my part and if I wanna stall, np gain stops being an issue since I always np every other turn with triple np chain, it's why I don't like the himiko team since it's np rate is so much worse than what I am running at the moment all because castorias invul has a 3T duration and so people try to min max around it and building a team soly dedicated to a SINGLE effect ain't my style.
Nah those weren't relevant enough since Cu and old hag you can just nuke turn 1 with little effort, Hassan parade you can just Medea cheese and normal death NPs aren't much of a disturbance to force anyone to bring a unit Soly for the instant death immunity at best I'd just bring a unit who buffs my team and seals enemy np Oh hi Martha Santa.
@@ACertainMan well that's Van but she is more card support than np for general farming. Tamamo like skadi is skill set than np but both are ones who need time to load up in longer battles for the np to go off.
Well yeah it's not ideal but the fact the append system shot the arts units up to the sky while patch the quick and buster units to use a normal kscope for thier loops really shows who gets the most benefits in the system. Castoria being able to get a full charge np by turn 3 with the chain really goes to show the 30 charge is huge. Not needed but it can be used for 3 turn story battles without manually setting up like the other units.
Martha santa is more so stepping on skadi than ereshkigal as she is a support caster who can get somewhat faster np of herself if the kit I saw was real. I like that they added her so that's just a plus for me when she comes to na in many years so I can have 3 Martha and double that as she has historical references which is a nice touch. Death is always a thing that is either overclocked or useless to see.
Honesty now I'm picturing dw thinking Merlin or castoria will need a buff which they don't if skadi the original queen of memes got one but it was in the wrong place it should have been a skill buff instead of np buff
@@ivanbluecool I can say the same about merlin being not farming based more so than Van Gogh and her elite comps.
Append system didn't shoot up anyone really haven't seen a case were it made a major difference so far it's just a short buff that comes with a cost.
She gives the team so much attack up and stars it's nuts it's like a remastered version of Okki tbh what she should have been.
The real red flag is waver tbh he might get a skill buff if things continue down this path.
you really should do more of this, i really like this kind of analysis
Her 1 hit team wide evade looks like a thin ice layer of protection to me
Honestly think the evade should have been moved to overcharge and just let it stack like castorias. Or just make it it 2 hits 3 turn evade. If I wanted a 1 hit evade I have the artic mystic code for that
Yaaay a vid from myst! And I honestly agree with your opinion, at least her np still have this unique insta death immune and party evade can still save you at least from nps, if not sure hit or pierce invul ofc
A pleassure to hear your opinion Myst!
Awesome content!
Agreed, I bet most people have used her NP less than 5 times since she first was released.
This does basically nothing for her.
it does nothing for her, because she is a support servant. Gate of Skye is now going to be bonkers for Melt, that's for sure
I've seen people hype it up as she can solo with her upgrade now *face smacks*
Everytime I see people give reasons to complete defend this upgrade I just go "okay grandpa whatever you saaaaay, let's bring you back to your chair.....okay, who the heck didn't give grandpa his meds?"
@@7jaws7 Uhh yeah? "It does nothing for her" is in reference to her role in the game.
@@krismarshall3803 Skadi can 7t full power Kiara now but yeah you know better buddy lol.
I love this "buff break down" show! Woud've loved to see one for the Arthur and Ozy most recent buffs but I guess its too late now
Pog another nice vid
I actually really like it since I enjoy using her as a support for cqs. But I don't like using double skadi for them so this is really nice for me.
Tbh I like this kind of videos a lot, I'm way too out of the loop with the game that I can't comprehend really well if a buff like this is good or bad and having a trusty reference is more than welcome
I’d love to see her 3rd skill buffed to add on a 3 turn buff removal resistance, %30 np gain, or an on crit heal buff. Skadi comps lack sustain so that could be a unique addition to keep the main DPS alive. And maybe when all the on crit heal charges are used up, it reduces Skadi’s cooldowns by 1, even though the on crit buff was applied to the DPS.
That’s way too much to give on one buff
I'd prefer a flat NP Party Charge Up on her S2 or S3, like what OG Abby gives. Would take a LOT of edge off when it comes to trying to loop, without having to deal with Quick's inherent lackluster NP Gain Card Mod.
@@anonjohn9760 he said either of those and not all, kinda showing ur comprehensive level dude ngl.
Nicholas Wilson I could have been more clear, but I was presenting a selection of buffs that could be added, not all of them.
@@gaminggamer1918 I see no problem with that, and I suppose I was not clear either about JUST have an Abby S1 effect appended onto one of her skills. Though at this point Skadi probably DOES need all the buffs she can get to compete with Castoria, if she doesn't end up getting powercrept by another Quick Support in the future.
Well at least now we have the perfect textbook example of a strong buff that just doesnt work because its not what the servant needed.
I use double skadi + bradamante for challenge quests a lot. With this buff, you get 20% + 20% attack up for 5 turns , you can't go wrong.
They buffed the most underwhelming thing in her kit, but their approach was wrong.
Quick setups are not lacking in damage at all.
It would be better to get a way to NP more often on Skadi, or to increase one of its defensive properties (more evades or more dmg cut)
This mainly helps for low end setups
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub and people who don't bother with the loops
And evade that scaling through overcharge sounds really great
harp of healing lasts forever ;) not just 3 turns
got the notif 6 days later, nice TH-cam
Oof, algorithm being whacky again
Before watching this I feel like 1 of 2 things needed to happen and I'm not sure if you touch on this but I think that either you could go further into the quick looping meta and give her NP up like 20 to 30% buff for all of the party members for quick related NP gain or just trying to go hard defense give her the same thing that's on Is Castor Artoria's NP and called it a day these are just off the cuff ideas and neither were it
While the buff doesn't fully change her role much as a farming support, it does make her more viable on challenge quests and boss fights, especially since you can't count on Shivering Blizzard giving you extra damage since most bosses nowadays have passive debuff immunity or debuff removal on break, the additional ATK damage will give you that option instead. And since it lasts for 5 turns, you only need to pop it once and you're good to go.
Sound nice for Challange Quest but nothing for farming. Maybe one turn evade or an improved damage cut for more turns would have been nice if they really wanted to ignore the fact that she needs a targetable np gain
Idk, but im gonna use her np more now
Gotta wait 2 years for this
Pretty much adding to her true niche which is quick crit support so not too surprised. Was kinda funny seeing others forget that with her being incidentally good for looping.
dope
Feels exactly like Okita Alters recent buff and comparing it to what Okita saber alter had on release. Kind of still sucks a bit. Maybe party 2-3 hit evade would be wiser.
barely use her np since I'm mostly using her ce bond or bond/qp ce instead of a kscope on her
Me, looking at the skill description of popular support Servants post-Skadi: wow sheesh they've got so many effects per skill
Skadi's 3rd skill: *sad trombone*
They're trying to appeal more for her np... Maybe since Castoria is already broken in term of defense(and other things, I know), they're trying to make her more offensively... But I actually wanted for them to add that evade, at least 2. 1 attack evade almost never make any big difference.. But.. All those effects might be stacking better than I think.. I'll try see it.
Damn I was kinda hoping her third skill was buff like crit increase, atk increase or a 3 turn evade lol
Holy shit I actually got NP2 Skadi off of one 11 roll, so the NP2 isn't a waste??
would have prefered her getting a full turn of evasion. Overall its a good buff. Her NP was always very crappy and this makes it actually impactfull and the additional attack damage might actually help with farming high HP notes as well as sometimes helping with overkill as well.
What i personally like about this buff is that it expands her to be more of a crit support then a pure quick support. I can totally see players with not that stacked accounts use her much more flexibly. Once should not forget that a good amount of people use her as a 50% charger and debuffer and dont get tooo much usage out of the quick buff.
TlDR: a single skadi can now do more and her gameplay did expand beyond the pure super specific double skadi quick looping meta.
Hopefully they give merlin a 30 or 50% np charge or his hero creation that would make him useful again
I guess he still better than after upgrade Skadi. Even NP or skill.
Cause of that he dont need a buff forever
Geronimo be dying out here, DW
Meanwhile poor Jekyll and Hyde are still at the bottom of the barrel with Geronimo.
Getting buffed is better than getting replaced in my opinion even if it’s kinda a weak buff
I GOT JUMPSCARED SINCE THIS WAS RECOMMENDED RIGHT NOW SO I THOUGHT AIN'T NO WAY SHE GOT A BUFF NOW
tbf if you have 2 kscopes and someone who can give AoE 20% charge, you can get free 40% damage buff that will be multiplicative with her 1st skill and help some characters with overkills on assassins and zerks.
She is better at helping deal more damage, the problem with Skadi wasn't damage though since she has defense down and the targeted quick buff to break bars. Her issue is lack of defense since 1 evade is not going to do much as well as measly damage cut. If break bars didn't exist, she would naturally be much better with all offense and no defense, but break bars exist courtesy of Merlin.
@@dstreetz91 that's the thing, damage was not enough to consistently refund on some characters. and people complaining about her defensive effect on np even though how often you tank more than one NP in one turn? and if you are dying from normal attacks the problem is not in Skadi's evade, he problem is in a team you use.
Not sure what they were going for here, just makes the NP less of a disgrace but ultimately still a disgrace as her weakness in CQs was lack of staying power/defence and this buff does nothing to help that
When's my boy Merlin getting buffed
I say this might help DSS comps. Use Skadi's NP before your Quick Servant's NP in Turn 1. IDK about yall but personally I really like this.
To do that you would need to run a MLB Scope/ Scope + Append Skills on her.
Alternatively you could use her bond CE which buffs quick damage and crit damage.
The former is 10% rather than the NPs 20% Charisma but it has the following benefits
1) Its on a 4 Star CE So it lets you slot in higher cost backline for CQs
2) Its also technically more F2P Friendly (Like I dont want to assume everyone has Scopes lying around)
Another thing to note is that if by DSS Comps you mean Farming, then this idea is technically bad on the paper.
in DSS Farming comps you want to maximize on drop CEs, utilizing a non drop CE on a support might be far more unoptimal than just, swapping in another support unit that could provide buffs to clean up the turn.
Also in a DSS Farming comp, the 5 turn benefit on the NPs Charisma wouldn't be as relevant as the CQ scenario as in most cases you wont be letting Skadi just bite it so her Passive CE buff would still be beneficial if you REALLY need it.
(Like Waver swap in to provide any missing Charge + Extra buffs, And while yes one would consider a SSR not as F2P Friendly as a 5* CE, we are getting a SSR ticket early next year so having a Waver isnt out the question for most playerbase before this buff happens (We get like another ticket after that anyways))
You would need mlbscope or scope with append skill and still it would increase the time
With me this buff is really good cause it give me 2sq
Me: where's merlins buff.
Failed to get skadi no more sq
Where's my Merlin Buff?
merlin buff when ?
For all those mfs asking for a merlin buff, I honestly cannot see what they would add to him that would make him any better besides a secondary np battery or star bomb. He's already pretty insane based on his kit alone. Maybe 30%np charge on hero creation? that way he has 50% like other supports and is literally on the same level as waver.
There's literally no place for Merlin to get buffed.
He's still a CQ king especially in the Castoria / Merlin / Himiko or Morgan line ups.
They aren't going to make him a better a farmer, there's already Vitch and Oberon for that.... Buster doesn't need 3 options when Arts and Quick are still on one for farming....
Skadi has a NP?
people were literally memeing Skadi's NP out of existence, of course she needed an NP buff. Her skills are just fine for farming, but Gate of Skye was always intended to be for CQs
Melt is the biggest winner I'd say
A longer and more casual-ish gameplay, maybe oriented to crits, probably gains the most benefit out of this buff, not just to Melt necessarily. But majority of people won't care about that kind of gameplay and will still think her NP is shit as she can't charge her own NP, so you will need MLB scope or scope + max append to use it (apparently use her NP on T1 or bust is the only option we have in here) and her defensive buffs are still suck. :/
Shame her evade didn't get buffed, though.
No one's gonna complain about more damage
While I like what they did, I would have also liked a second hit of evade.
Comparing defensive support buffs:
Merlin- teamwide invulnerable 1 turn
Castoria-teamwide enhanced invulnerable for 2 hits that increases with overcharge. Also standard invulnerable in a skill
Reines: standard targets lnvulnerable, massive 3 turn def up, np gets rid of class weakness
Skadi:............team 1 hit evasion and 500 damage cut. I would rather them upgrade her defenses and utility on np. Heck, not saying the Atk up buff isn't appreciated, but I'd rather that be placed on one of her skills. To make her a generic support unit, and have done something different with her np. But a chunk of the jpn fanbase openly mocked this on the fgo Twitter so you know it's not that good of a buff lol.
@@krismarshall3803 Castoria gives only 1 hit at OC1
Funnily enough, quick is now the lesser meta out of arts and buster again. History repeats itself, huh?
DW should start giving out more defensive/utility buffs instead of going DPS on almost everyone.
Based on how FGO releases "meta supports," the next one in 2022 should be Quick. I just see this buff as trying to carve out more of a niche for Skadi (all in on offense) so that when the new Quick support is released, she isn't completely outclassed.
Accidentally new 2022 quick meta support also carved more of a niche for Skadi.
a good buff but kinda useless, np generation up in the skill would be better i think
still doesnt change the fact that quick loop is still the worst
Why no np gain or heal or debuff clearance?
They save that skills for new 5 star Quick support
*wonders why no np gain buff*
*ignores that they released Castoria last year to fix Arts and Vitch + Oberon this year for Buster*
I didn't know that Myst was fluent in Japanese
Ya boi learned Japanese to read doujins and play H games. No joke
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Honestly, this buff doesn't seem great to me, ignoring the unnecessariness of it, the biggest gain from this buff is NP2 specifically, as it gains 75% Crit Damage and 25% Attack up, which is an obviously substantial increase from NP1's 50%CD and 20%AU, or pre-buff NP2's +40% CD. And in comparison to NP5 it's obviously a lot cheaper than well, NP5. The issue is that it, a). is still very oriented towards those of us who have multiple copies of her, and b). That it's a buff which predominantly focuses on the part of her NP _which needed buffing the least of all._
Her 3rd Skill or her NP's Defensive abilities should've been what was buffed honestly. The Crit Damage buff for _most_ people is only going to be helpful 3 times at all in an entire fight, and the only units who are gonna be able to benefit from all 9 ticks completely are main DPS' who turn their own supports into Sub DPS, and can function as Supports as well. --Which is basically Van Gogh, Sherlock, Himiko, and Quirinus exclusively.
Oh and since she already had the Main 3 Damage Modifiers built into her kit as is, this becomes even less useful than it appears on the surface, because it's not offering any new Damage Increment types, just enhancing ones she already had, and it's locked behind her abysmal NP gain.
Don't get me wrong, it's a 'nice' buff, but that's about it; nothing substantial enough to merit a massive change in what she offers, she's basically the same as before, you'll just see occasionally slightly bigger numbers in Challenge Quests and boss fights, and pretty much nowhere else.
I think her skills should’ve been buffed instead.
Skill 1 could include a 25% NP charge. This would allow for double Skadi teams to be more flexible with their CE choices.
Or Skill 3 includes a gain NP per turn to make up NP in those 3-2-3 nodes that higher end farming nodes like to do now.
Eh, I would say np gauge Regen or npgain up would be feasible. No support increases more than. 50 besides Oberon. But they gave his skill a demerit to compensate. So unless she has a demerit with that then I don't see her giving more actual flat npgauge
does myst knows japanese?
Yeah I can read most mundane stuff
@@MystFGO Just wondering, what JLPT level are you at to be able to read most of the mundane stuff.
@@GamesRusTheGamingCubicle I've only taken one JLPT so far and it was in 2018 and I passed it at N3. I've been wanting to take N2 for a long time now but rona ended up cancelling all that stuff sadly.
... I mean it's a buff. Can't be anything but good, right?
A buff can be bad simply for the fact that they will probably never buff her NP again or at least not for a long time and have it be a buff in relevant, namely defensive, ways. They can still buff her skills at least though to give her some sort of defensive options besides crit chance down.
Yeah obviously its still nice but there is one negative that I also mentioned in the video that her NP will probably never be touched again so it will always remain as something that doesn't solve her bigger problems, rather only helps her add damage which she already did pretty well as is.
@@MystFGO Yeah, I've seen the vid already know. Seems like you will most likely be right regarding her NP
@@MystFGO But they could release another Quick support to help out those other problems and make her Np more accessible at the same time.
I think it's a fine buff, they were never going to buff the Quick np gain issue when they could just sell the solution like they did for arts and buster farming.... and her np is decent now and could be a lot better after the new quick support is out (Seimei? Proto Merlin? Someone else?)
Okitas NP is the one you knew you were trying to think of. Defense down scales from 30% to 50% depending on charge
I really like that damage buff.
My team: Dantes(kscope)+merlin+skadi(nf3+kscope)+skadi(support) will do more damage for 3t farm, I hope
Fym it’s a cute NP
Obviously Skadi is cute, so all her abilities are cute.
@@amai2307 I don’t even remember posting this comment
is it on English server too?
2 years
Bruh
Feels like a waste of buff
P.S Ok, 5 turns, not that bad but still
She’s Scathách, she should give PFA that can stack over other evasions
As Dipper once said:
"This is worthless!"
its adissapointing buff imo. No one cares about 20% attk, we already have +200% crit dmg so more is meh
Everyone would have appreciated asimple 30% or 50% np gain rate on skill 1. Just that and quick is meta once more
Bro are you aware, that such buffs are multiplicative, not additive? so it would be base * crit damage bonus * attack bonus.
So with 200% crit damage or 2000% crit damage - it still the same 20% boost if we dont have other attack buffs.
So a buff just so they can say they buffed her? Like who actually uses her NP?
DW: Here. Here’s a buff to emphasize what we want you to use Skadi for: boss fights.
Players: No. Looping or gtfo
The schism between DW’s intentions and players’ desires is still hilarious.
even then this really doesn't change the issue people had for her in boss fights. Its not a matter of looping or gtfo its a matter of the other options provide sustain for themselves.
This isn't the case at all lol. She's still bad for boss fights unless you're 3 turning it because of her survivability sucks. All other supports can last longer than she can. (Well besides vitch, but she's super transparent that you need to bring another support to keep her alive. Skadi still half asses def support during boss fights)
@@krismarshall3803 lol learn to min turn boss fights.
I mean her NP doesn't really help for boss fights considering of that terrible 1 attack evade.
If the evade was 3 attacks or 1 turn, then it would be pretty busted.
Also her skill kit is designed for looping, so DW didn't really think ahead when her skills are just meant to do a lot of damage and loop.
They could have given her NP charge an np gain as well, so that some quick AOE characters would be able to loop.
Okitas NP is the one you knew you were trying to think of. Defense down scales from 30% to 50% depending on charge