I have a 2018 JKU Willys Wheeler Edition. It's just a Sport with upgraded suspension and a couple of exterior additional upgrades. Nothing spectacular. No Lockers, No Disconnects, a Dana 30 up front and a 44 in the rear.
I got in mine and ask the sales guy heh where are the window knobs or buttons?? He said "oh you want roll up windows "" those are extra. Then I said what about power windows and he said "Oh power windows are #3 times as much as roll up windows. Then I said a heater He said oh a heater is "extra". The whole conversation was about "extras"" ...!!! That's the truth more or less too. You want things that are standard on a Chevrolet or Ford. Are not standard on Wranglers. On Wranglers it's all about different packages and costs. And each upgrade = $$$$$$$$$$$$$...!!! Mine was $ 58,000, but we got it down to 48K it was a brand new 2022 with everything. Including the turbo diesel and rear lockers and full plates underneath. Came with everything but #4 goats and a servant. Drives like a Mercedes, and has the Torque and power of Tractor. Peace.
I like this style of filming better because you point out the details with hand motion and your more forced on the vehicle then trying to get good angles. Definitely keep this style!
Tires are 32's not 33's and it does not have lockers or sway bar disconnect. What it does have is the Rubicon's rock rails and shocks; which will get changed anyway as soon as it's lifted. The MT tires are only 0.5 inches bigger than the Sports if you calculated it, and only 0.7 inches smaller than the Rubicon.
In the difference between the Rubicon , Willys, and Sahara ,,, you really need to go over the Differentials. and Locking 4x4 options . Jeeps are without a doubt great in the Snow , rain, ,,, But will it pull a small trailer, will it climb out of a hurricane/ tornado , mud ? Ground clearance ? This is where the Jeep shines ,,, Not how well it performs going back and forth to the grocery store !
Ive always loved the Wrangler. I think my biggest complaint (besides the price) is that the bumpers, fenders etc fade way way to fast. I bought a 2018 JK, and within 8 months, my fenders were dark grey. My roommate bought a 2019 JL, and his front bumpers are already showing that weird "faded unevenly" look.
Budget rubicon? You literally don’t talk about any of the running gear and components that make a rubicon different from both sport and safari and this willies. What’s the gearing running gear motor options etc
Would've been a much better video if he went over the differences between Rubicon and Willy's. At least point out if the Willy's is simply am appearance package if nothing else.
Bruce Wayne the Willy’s has rock rails, mud terrains (32”s), limited slip and rear Dana 44. So yes it is the spec for getting below 32k. Check current prices... Yes no lockers or Dana wide trac 44. Not a lot of you tubers know much though...
@@chrisramsey3603 It's 2020 and all new vehicles are way too expensive! Jeeps do more tricks than any other vehicles and make a model for any market segment.
Actually the shocks are upgraded, you also get rock sliders. But yeah that’s it. Really pretty wack. There is an anti spin differential. Not sure if the sport has that
@@confettihunterminus1 Nope the spin differential is an almost $600 add-on... black wheels/grill, LED lights, all-weather mats. Difference between the S and W packages is $2,495.
@@chuppyjoejackson8322 ...I would imagine so. Again, sticker is the suggested price; not the firm/actual selling price. Use your resources, make a reasonable offer (start at 12-15% off MSRP), then negotiate to 5-10% off MSRP, but do not pay at or above MSRP. Jeep just did the F&F promotion and 10-11% was the going rate discount. There is a bunch of overhead on these and there is room to deal/negotiate. Stay in control (but don't threaten or be mean), if they aren't willing to work, or you don't like their finance terms, you walk (or bring you own finance). Go to the next dealer 10-20 miles away (in fact use dealers to battle each other in a ways, best deal gets you $$. There are dozens upon dozens of Jeeps (Wranglers/Grand Cherokee) so, if one dealer does not have the one for you, I'm pretty sure the other two in close proximity might.
Is this the Willys Sport trim or the Willys trim? There is a $5k difference in the staring prices. I guess with the LED light package, this is the Willys trim. The Willys Sport does not come with LED lights and only gets the small 5" Radio screen. Would you spend the extra $5k+ on the Willys? Is the Willys that much better?
I wouldn't touch a jl, huge frame issues, windshjeld problems, electrical issues etc.. give it a few years, look underneath and look at the frame on a newer jk then look at the frame on a jl, it looks like its stamped and made of lego plastic.. I bought a 2018 jk when the new jl was also available and am glad I did!!
You_Are_Cleared_Hot lol. The first unlimited adjusted for inflation would be around $23,000.The difference is that the new ones have all the tech, better safety equipment, better materials, better gas mileage, etc.
@Honest Fellow well that info is what I thought this video would describe, so now I know. But even that crap isn't enough to brag about. Maybe the axle but any rear 44 is pretty well good to go
@Honest Fellow I have a decently built jku on 37s. I'm at the 100k mile debate of staying committed with it or start with a fresh JLU build. Good luck with your new jeep!
You beat me to it Ben. I do like this style of filming for reviews. I just notice in all of your reviews you always your Ram Rebel in the frame. I love it. Great work.
Not really a budget rubicon, now if it was a sport package but had locking difs, and disconnecting sway bars, THEN it would be a budget rubicon, but this is just a more expensive sport with okay tires 😂😂
I would say though that locking diff and electric sway disconnect is the options that differentiate it the mose onmther than Dana 40 and 30 rear ends in reality I can disconnect the sway bar on any vehicle with a ratchet and locking diffs aren't required in most scenarios
Domngus Locking diffs are extremely important for off reading in many scenarios. Rubicons come with Dana 44s also. Nobody is going to hop out of their Jeep while off-roading and manually disconnect their sway bay lmao. If you actually go mudding, rock crawling, etc often locking diffs are essential for off-road.
...not intitially, but as the Mud terrains begin to wear down, the potential for more noise will increase. I'd only expect 30k miles out of those tires, so worst case, you are only stuck with them for 2-3 years. But if you want to change them early, I'm pretty sure there are a dozen other tires to choose from to suit your road/AT/MT/winter needs...
Yeah but like nobody and I mean nobody pronounces it that way. You have to spend more time and energy explaining it so it’s not worth it... Only the hardcore fans know this.
I just bought a 2019 Ram 1500 Crew 4x4 5.7 Sport loaded up for $35,000 less than a Gladiator Rubicon after taxes. Tons of room and a V8 with better fuel mileage than the jeep with a 6 lol.
@@IMiss_The90s well damn where do you live. Only the base models go for that in Jersey. Did u get the 12" screen with sunroof. I paid 60 for my Laramie Black
@@acebuick Canada. My truck was on for $46,000 after discounts. The jeep was $74,000 with basically no discounts. Then tax on top of the $28,000 difference. Tax is 13% here.
thumbs up but a some thoughts on it - nomenclature you know this "thing" thingy" better to say what it is or not at all. you do talk a little fast... remember slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
I'm sorry but I can't believe how bad these are compared to even the compass Trailhawk... I think a compass Trailhawk would smoke this thing in the snow....
How is this a comparison between a Rubicon and the Willys. Tires have nothing to do with what separates the Rubicon from the other models. People dont buy Rubicons for the radio
Ikr all the Sally's crying cuz that cant buy one, so they tryna put it down! These are the best offroad vehicles right off the showroom floor! Try that with your Kias!
Well...those Rubicons that haven't been taken offroad are great candidates to buy used. Probably minimal abuse. A key giveaway is when you see one with 20" wheels and skinny tires 🤣🤣🤣. Scoop those up all day, and be thankful that the previous owner was a pavement princess.
Jaydog74 they can set that price because there is no other car like the Jeep Wrangler. Ever since the FJ died Jeep had free reign. The good thing about Wranglers are that they keep their value
Its not smoke at all, its steam. They either just washed it and got water in the exzaust or its cold out and its burning the condensation off in the exzaust.
First of all it is pronounced Willis! Second those are Freedom Panels, not T-tips. T-tops were on 80’s muscle cars. Ignorance is no excuse if you’re doing a review. Know what you are talking about.
Advice you sound too much like a sales person ... know more about the car and don’t pause so much when thinking of your next point ... and the spot between the cup holders is for the key that’s how they presented it during the first release of the jl...
I have a 2018 JKU Willys Wheeler Edition. It's just a Sport with upgraded suspension and a couple of exterior additional upgrades. Nothing spectacular. No Lockers, No Disconnects, a Dana 30 up front and a 44 in the rear.
Budget and Jeep Wrangler should not be made in the same sentence... nothing about Wranglers are budget... even base models...
I got in mine and ask the sales guy heh where are the window knobs or buttons?? He said "oh you want roll up windows "" those are extra. Then I said what about power windows and he said "Oh power windows are #3 times as much as roll up windows. Then I said a heater He said oh a heater is "extra". The whole conversation was about "extras"" ...!!! That's the truth more or less too. You want things that are standard on a Chevrolet or Ford. Are not standard on Wranglers. On Wranglers it's all about different packages and costs. And each upgrade = $$$$$$$$$$$$$...!!! Mine was $ 58,000, but we got it down to 48K it was a brand new 2022 with everything. Including the turbo diesel and rear lockers and full plates underneath. Came with everything but #4 goats and a servant. Drives like a Mercedes, and has the Torque and power of Tractor. Peace.
I like this style of filming better because you point out the details with hand motion and your more forced on the vehicle then trying to get good angles. Definitely keep this style!
Romario Perez 🧐🧐🧐
@@BenHardyCars I heard that 2020 jeep don't use ez torque on that 2.0 l anymore wonder why.
Tires are 32's not 33's and it does not have lockers or sway bar disconnect. What it does have is the Rubicon's rock rails and shocks; which will get changed anyway as soon as it's lifted. The MT tires are only 0.5 inches bigger than the Sports if you calculated it, and only 0.7 inches smaller than the Rubicon.
In the difference between the Rubicon , Willys, and Sahara ,,, you really need to go over the Differentials. and Locking 4x4 options . Jeeps are without a doubt great in the Snow , rain, ,,, But will it pull a small trailer, will it climb out of a hurricane/ tornado , mud ? Ground clearance ? This is where the Jeep shines ,,, Not how well it performs going back and forth to the grocery store !
Exactly my dude
Great review, I recommend upgrading the microphone. There was a lot of feedback from the device you were recording with.
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WILL-ISSSSS not WILL-EEEEZ
The man himself pronounced it Will issssss not Will ezzzzz but try telling these idiots that.
For some reason people think it’s Willy’s, like it’s the Jeep Willy made. WRONG! The guy’s name is Willys, pronounced Willis.
I’d consider the Willys, except for the fact that I’d pull my hair out every time someone asked me if it’s a “Willies”.
Yep, theee tires, theee hood, theee this and theee that. Can't stand to listen to this guy talk.
I spend my days correcting this mistake as well.
Ive always loved the Wrangler. I think my biggest complaint (besides the price) is that the bumpers, fenders etc fade way way to fast. I bought a 2018 JK, and within 8 months, my fenders were dark grey. My roommate bought a 2019 JL, and his front bumpers are already showing that weird "faded unevenly" look.
ceramic coat the plastic, it will slow down the fading process
Thank you for the tutorial, LOL! I Just bought one and pick it up on Friday. Very thorough
Budget rubicon? You literally don’t talk about any of the running gear and components that make a rubicon different from both sport and safari and this willies. What’s the gearing running gear motor options etc
Would've been a much better video if he went over the differences between Rubicon and Willy's. At least point out if the Willy's is simply am appearance package if nothing else.
Like I said in my post, if you’re doing a review know what you’re talking about. Ignorance is no excuse.
Does it have the two Dana 44 axles?
Bruce Wayne the Willy’s has rock rails, mud terrains (32”s), limited slip and rear Dana 44.
So yes it is the spec for getting below 32k. Check current prices...
Yes no lockers or Dana wide trac 44. Not a lot of you tubers know much though...
Solar Fry only the rear
My sister in-law just got the Willys Unlimited. I was really taken with it. It’s really nice. Looks awesome! So much to like about it.
Great video and like this style with you in front of the camera - nice car in a good spec
Malcolm Scott took longer to film, but might be worth it
Pronounced Will-iss after John Willys of the Willys-Overland Company that made the first Jeep’s.
Great review. Best one I've seen on this trim.
Hello from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
These are not cheap but at least they keep their value fairly well. I hope to buy one of these soon
Great review! Super helpful - just got my willy’s 2021 edition in sarge green 🤩
Ain’t nothing budget about new cars these days brother.
I have to admit the jeep is really growing on me..
Hope your wallet is growing as well if you plan to buy one.
@@chrisramsey3603 It's 2020 and all new vehicles are way too expensive! Jeeps do more tricks than any other vehicles and make a model for any market segment.
@@jamesmccarthy942 nope, Jeep just tricks people into paying too much.
@@chrisramsey3603 Dont like jeeps then dont buy one! Stick with your lil Hyundai's and Kias! Sound like lil whiny 5 girl!
@@Gonzo1968 I have a jeep and my comment is my opinion, don't like it then don't read it, moron.
Good review, though the Willy's comes with 32 mud terrains...not 33's...unless they added that at the dealership...
Ian D or I just messed up while talking😂😂
@@BenHardyCars 😂 happens to the best of us.
Very professional looking video! 👍👏
Surinder Mediratta thank you!
No interior hood release? Do you even Jeep?
Snell World 😆
Liked your video format. Thanks for the review..
44K for a sport with a minor sticker trimming and mud style tires is crazy.
Mister lll Limo lucky you, here in canada 55k... for 55k i can get a trd off road 4runner..
And red seat belts
Actually the shocks are upgraded, you also get rock sliders. But yeah that’s it. Really pretty wack. There is an anti spin differential. Not sure if the sport has that
They are so expensive. Base with nothin on it was 40k
@@confettihunterminus1 Nope the spin differential is an almost $600 add-on... black wheels/grill, LED lights, all-weather mats. Difference between the S and W packages is $2,495.
So you can see. You can see. We can see.
som3drunkguy lol
It certainly gets a little annoying. It's conversational filler like "uhm" "like" "uh huh" "ya know". But it makes Ben seem nervous/amateur.
My father loved the old school willy jeep
Sam Khan they are sweet
Yes, this camera angle is better than the selfie style filming. There is more in the picture. 👍 Willy’s Wheeler👍👍👍 Outtakes!!😂😂👍👍
shift intohigh outtakes are the best 😂
Ben Hardy 👍
Handsome jeep and salesman.
I just bought this one in sarge green I paid 39 thousand and change out the door great deal love it !
I was wondering the trim package on yours? I have not been able to find one under 40k. Did you negotiate to get that price?
@@chuppyjoejackson8322 ...I would imagine so. Again, sticker is the suggested price; not the firm/actual selling price. Use your resources, make a reasonable offer (start at 12-15% off MSRP), then negotiate to 5-10% off MSRP, but do not pay at or above MSRP. Jeep just did the F&F promotion and 10-11% was the going rate discount. There is a bunch of overhead on these and there is room to deal/negotiate. Stay in control (but don't threaten or be mean), if they aren't willing to work, or you don't like their finance terms, you walk (or bring you own finance). Go to the next dealer 10-20 miles away (in fact use dealers to battle each other in a ways, best deal gets you $$. There are dozens upon dozens of Jeeps (Wranglers/Grand Cherokee) so, if one dealer does not have the one for you, I'm pretty sure the other two in close proximity might.
Hello from Russia 👍🇺🇸
Сергей Шевцов 🙋♂️
I have this exact jeep, it gets 18mpg pretty much always. Not bad
Great video! I just bought the Willard
Every time he ses "you can see" take a drink!
Or "pop"
Great review!
Great job, enjoyed your video.
Mary Jane Jovenall thank you
5:36 touch screen lags.
After a few years the sun will destroy the screen
"The", not "Thee"
It'd be nice to say "so here's a link to the sport review; this video will just talk about things that Willy's has that are unique to Willy's".
I like that kind of review better
Nice review.🙂👍
Christian Garcia thank you!
Whh not put emphasis on the difference of the willys version rather than telling the same old stuff like a regular one,,
That's because it's the same thing other then the decal and tires everything is pretty much the same...
No hood lock.. i live in the ghetto man >,
Is this the Willys Sport trim or the Willys trim? There is a $5k difference in the staring prices. I guess with the LED light package, this is the Willys trim. The Willys Sport does not come with LED lights and only gets the small 5" Radio screen. Would you spend the extra $5k+ on the Willys? Is the Willys that much better?
Willys don’t cost that much less than Rubicon to be referred to as “budget”.
Fun fact, there is a new willys sport. It’s between the sport and sport S. 18k less than a base rubicon. That’s quite a bit.
@@btrapp37 😭 not in 2022 in north Carolina my 2021 willys was 43k and the rubicon was 49k-57k but Willis cost more then some rubicons
@@aaronjones9227 I paid $31k for my base willys soft top manual trans. Power nothin…it’s feckin sweet
@@btrapp37 facts mines is automatic
I've owned Subarus for years. I would suggest that you are going to have a lot more issues with a turbo 2.0 than the 6cyl.
I wonder if that’s why the turbo is cheaper
What ? Are you dumb?
Andrew Muston Stfu
@@NemeanLion- The turbo actually costs more.
@@johnhipp8267 Right now it’s the same price, it’s just that the transmission changes it. On the site build a few months ago, the turbo was cheaper.
Yes like 2 people
Never buy a turbo in anything
Someone tell me, why does it make sense to have your window controls in the middle because the doors come off. Think about it. Haha
Hmm because of Wiring, of course!
much better view!!
Does anyone know why the Jeep Wranglers don't have a dead pedal to rest your foot on?
I wouldn't touch a jl, huge frame issues, windshjeld problems, electrical issues etc.. give it a few years, look underneath and look at the frame on a newer jk then look at the frame on a jl, it looks like its stamped and made of lego plastic.. I bought a 2018 jk when the new jl was also available and am glad I did!!
Showing the handles and exhaust really wow AWESOME Features in a Jeep (sarcasm)
What diff axels are in the Wyillis?
I think dana 44? and 30?
hes actually right lol it is pronounced willis even though its spelt willys :)
When the Wrangler Unlimited first cam out it was starting at 18k now they're starting at 30k. Sorry Fiat, i'll pass.
You_Are_Cleared_Hot lol. The first unlimited adjusted for inflation would be around $23,000.The difference is that the new ones have all the tech, better safety equipment, better materials, better gas mileage, etc.
9;30 "floats around " that changed my mind ,I will not buy a new jeep. thanks for this video. you just saved me $50K
Has anyone told you that you look like the kid off of sixth sense
I thought they were 32” tires not 33” on the Willys
In no way does this jeep have anything comparable to the Rubicon features
@Honest Fellow Exactly the information he should have covered in this video!
@Honest Fellow well that info is what I thought this video would describe, so now I know. But even that crap isn't enough to brag about. Maybe the axle but any rear 44 is pretty well good to go
@Honest Fellow I have a decently built jku on 37s. I'm at the 100k mile debate of staying committed with it or start with a fresh JLU build. Good luck with your new jeep!
With the savings in willys over rubicon, dude can stop wearing his little brothers jeans . Dang
What does the Willys package actually give?
can someone count how many times he said "you can see"
yondaime hokage make a drinking game out of it
First🥳
They got rid of the rear usb's and 12v house plug under the power window switches for 2020????
You beat me to it Ben. I do like this style of filming for reviews. I just notice in all of your reviews you always your Ram Rebel in the frame. I love it. Great work.
Alec J finding the rebel is like where’s Waldo lol
@@BenHardyCars I'll find you Ben
Not really a budget rubicon, now if it was a sport package but had locking difs, and disconnecting sway bars, THEN it would be a budget rubicon, but this is just a more expensive sport with okay tires 😂😂
Alann Mac lol😂
Disagree the axle is different.
Domngus even if it is different, still no locking front or rear diffs, and no disconnecting sway bars.
I would say though that locking diff and electric sway disconnect is the options that differentiate it the mose onmther than Dana 40 and 30 rear ends in reality I can disconnect the sway bar on any vehicle with a ratchet and locking diffs aren't required in most scenarios
Domngus Locking diffs are extremely important for off reading in many scenarios. Rubicons come with Dana 44s also. Nobody is going to hop out of their Jeep while off-roading and manually disconnect their sway bay lmao. If you actually go mudding, rock crawling, etc often locking diffs are essential for off-road.
Do the rugged knobby tires give it more of a "rough" ride than the typical Sahara?
...not intitially, but as the Mud terrains begin to wear down, the potential for more noise will increase. I'd only expect 30k miles out of those tires, so worst case, you are only stuck with them for 2-3 years. But if you want to change them early, I'm pretty sure there are a dozen other tires to choose from to suit your road/AT/MT/winter needs...
I own this same jeep
That’s not the 7inch screen but great review overall!
Usman Abbas, that is the 7 inch screen.
Yo, you look exactly like me.
I thought they were 32” not 33”?
It has lockers and sway bar release 😋?
Are the rear seats retractable? Or fixed.
Can you rest the hood back against the windshield like you could on old Jeeps?
Yes
What about the Wrangler hybrid?
Does the willie have navigation??
def looking at the Willys.....gotta get one!!! It is actually pronounced Willis btw
Yeah but like nobody and I mean nobody pronounces it that way. You have to spend more time and energy explaining it so it’s not worth it... Only the hardcore fans know this.
@@seadoo4life127 haha... yeah that’s why I just went with the Rubicon
@@socalnsx yeah not me soooo lol
The new jeeps are just too expensive. I'd go with a Ram for those prices. Nice to look at. Interiors are also no good for anyone over 6ft.
Agree on price, but I’m 6"5’ and my JL fits great and easy to get comfortable.
Sorry to inform your the mid range ram is starting at 50k now. Top of the line is 70k+. Fiat is robbing people, but I had to get that new ram. Lol
I just bought a 2019 Ram 1500 Crew 4x4 5.7 Sport loaded up for $35,000 less than a Gladiator Rubicon after taxes. Tons of room and a V8 with better fuel mileage than the jeep with a 6 lol.
@@IMiss_The90s well damn where do you live. Only the base models go for that in Jersey. Did u get the 12" screen with sunroof. I paid 60 for my Laramie Black
@@acebuick Canada. My truck was on for $46,000 after discounts. The jeep was $74,000 with basically no discounts. Then tax on top of the $28,000 difference. Tax is 13% here.
thumbs up but a some thoughts on it - nomenclature you know this "thing" thingy" better to say what it is or not at all. you do talk a little fast... remember slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
Fuel economy 21 around town LOL
Wrangler Willys Wheeler: Jeep WWW
I'm sorry but I can't believe how bad these are compared to even the compass Trailhawk...
I think a compass Trailhawk would smoke this thing in the snow....
Ya imagine thinking a truck was designed to race a suv
How is this a comparison between a Rubicon and the Willys. Tires have nothing to do with what separates the Rubicon from the other models. People dont buy Rubicons for the radio
Yes but honestly why buy a Rubicon when you can buy a sport lock it yourself and have manual disconnects that never fail you
That’s a $25,000 vehicle
Ikr all the Sally's crying cuz that cant buy one, so they tryna put it down! These are the best offroad vehicles right off the showroom floor! Try that with your Kias!
If that were true, I'd take 2!
Short answer, No. It's a sport with a good sticker guys.
how much this 2020 jp
Wow. Would you look at that.
Would you look at that
Oh my. Just look at that
Would you look at that
Just look at that
Umm no it's not.
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I see so many Rubicons running around that haven't ever been offroad. For most drivers, it's just a poser status symbol
weirdshibainu truth
@Cloud Nine Nope.
Well...those Rubicons that haven't been taken offroad are great candidates to buy used. Probably minimal abuse. A key giveaway is when you see one with 20" wheels and skinny tires 🤣🤣🤣. Scoop those up all day, and be thankful that the previous owner was a pavement princess.
You should thank those buyers. If only hardcore bros like you bought Jeeps there would be no Jeeps to buy.
@@ABCD-uj6gd absolutely
Pronounced "Willis." #FTFY
I like everything but the price. Way over priced!
Jaydog74 they can set that price because there is no other car like the Jeep Wrangler. Ever since the FJ died Jeep had free reign. The good thing about Wranglers are that they keep their value
Introducing... 2021 FORD BRONCO 😝
omg I want a v6 willys so bad, unlimited red plz :p so sexy!
Does it come with a lift ?
Same suspension as a rubicon
Can you see??
Jeep website, you can buy the Rubicon for $45K
A "Budget" Rubicon it is not...
The way the Smoke was pouring out the exhaust is Shameful🙈
Its not smoke at all, its steam. They either just washed it and got water in the exzaust or its cold out and its burning the condensation off in the exzaust.
the amount of money jeeps cost is criminal. Who in the right mind would pay that much for a vehicle with cloth seats
Although I agree they're WAAAY to expensive, I'd pay EXTRA for cloth seats. Hate leather, don't like vinyl.
First of all it is pronounced Willis! Second those are Freedom Panels, not T-tips. T-tops were on 80’s muscle cars. Ignorance is no excuse if you’re doing a review. Know what you are talking about.
Lol
Advice you sound too much like a sales person ... know more about the car and don’t pause so much when thinking of your next point ... and the spot between the cup holders is for the key that’s how they presented it during the first release of the jl...
Is it thee or the?