I use gunslinger but I lower my gun like a hunter whenever I get the chance. It gives me a clearer field of view when walking and scanning, not to mention a smaller target to spot. I just switch the Q key for one of my mouse buttons and built up the habit of holding it down whenever I can.
I look at it as a question of frequency and urgency. ADS vs lowering/raising weapon; which one will you want to do more often and which one is a more sudden concern when you want to do it? ADS is my answer for both of those questions, so I'd give that the best and simplest control bindings. Hunter is essentially using prime A1 real estate - a primary mouse button - for something you only need to deliberately do like a dozen times in a full match.
I use gunslinger with "keep weapon lowered" option as well It always keeps your weapon lowered and directly goes into aim when you click right You can get shoulder aim back if you hold-release Q but not recommended with shotguns, fanning, levering where you need shoulder aim
I use gunslinger, I don't really see a reason to use hunter. There used to be a small pro for hunter where you could avoid having your weapon looking through the wall, but now on gunslinger you can have the same thing by holding q (default). The only thing that is a bit annoying on gunslinger is that normal knives attack with left click, throwing knives/axes throw with left click (need to use melee button to melee) and hammers etc are melee with left click and throw after right click (ADS) with tomahawk skill. I don't really see a reason why we need 3 different systems for something where the latter one would work just fine for all of them... Maybe give us an option at least.
Just for extra control over your character is good. One more input to ads and shoot but also takes away a lot of room for error that gunslinger has. Fumbling Q hold and switching weapons or accidentally igniting dynamite. I played gunslinger for 600 hours at 5 star and after a day of playing hunter and getting used to it I got 6 star and haven't dropped back into 5 star yet. Who knows though honestly maybe it's literally just how different people's brains work. Maybe left handed people prefer the left hand to ads when they get the chance. The difference is miniscule but sometimes that small of a difference is what puts you at 6 star. Id recommend to anyone to at least try both inputs for a day or two no matter which they are used to.
Hunter Controlscheme... becasue Im a early access OG. I dont feel like I have any disadvantage compared to traditional FPS schemes like gunslinger is. If you're used to it, R-Click with shift is really quick.
I started with Gunslinger as it felt more natural coming from other FPS games. Sticked to it for a month or maybe a bit more and made a switch to Hunter to see how it feels. Was rough at the beginning, but now I'm used to it and it feels... Just right for game like Hunt. I still got some issues with quick flicks where I need to ads at the same time too, but I've been happy using hunter scheme.
I have been playing Hunter and rebound my aiming down sights to a mouse button. I can press right click plus MB5 at the same time and will be instantly aiming down sights. Great workaround for the "slower" aiming in Hunter mode, really recommend for anyone to try it.
I remaped my Hunter shift button into the forward thumb mouse button which is i belileve the M5 button since the early beta days, I tried Gunslinger from a month ago maybe and couldn't get used on it at all especially during intense fights which needs to run and aim and run again instantly, i got killed couple of times due to that delay between aiming down sight and running, switched back to hunter mode directly again, Hunter ads FTW indeed!
yea thats fine, but you dont need to switch your keybinding off of SHIFT if you want to " Instantly " aim down the sights. You just right click and press down shift at the same time, or shift right after right click super fast. You wont see any hipfire animation or crosshair if you do it fast enough, which is easy with a bit of practice.
in the 500+ hours i've played hunt using almost exclusively gunslinger, i've never once been wallbanged from my gun clipping through a hole in the wall, just dont put your nose up against the wall and you're fine, use whatever control feels more comfortable and ignore the elitists saying your control scheme is worse
So i started out as gunslinger, thought the hunter mode was ridiculous and dumb ( because every other FPS game i played is gunslinger mode, R6 siege, CSGO, apex legends... so on... ) But after noticing that all the good youtubers / streamers and best players in the game were playing hunter, i thought to myself.... why? I should probably switch..... So i did try switching, but i could never stay, i was getting killed by forgetting to hold shift and stuff like that. I always went back to gunslinger. I switched back and forth about 4 or 5 or 6 times, never being on hunter for more than 3 or 4 games. Always couldnt stay. BUT ! FINALLY !! I switched to hunter mode and i never went back to gunslinger! i just decided one day to not go back ! once i realized my aim was the same holding down shift vs not holding it down ! Plus its true. HUNTER MODE LOOKS SO DAMN COOL. A true badass ! Love the wild west outlaw slickster style of hunter mode ! and playing romero and other hipfire shotguns is so damn better!
This. I left a comment with something similar. The feel of hunter mode is just so... good. Feels so right for a game like this, ain't it? I got only... Um... Around 350h I think? I thought I could never go hunter (started as gunslinger), but after switching and sticking to the learn curve I stayed on hunter and never looked back.
Hunt has an extra option to auto lower the weapon. This makes it possible to decide ingame if you want to have the normal gunslinger or the always down gunslinger where you can still fast ads. It's the best option for good gunslinger players.
Nooo Hornet you missed the melee delay bug with Gunslinger In Hunter, you can chain weapon bashes much faster due to Gunslinger having to hip aim in between each action
there is also a funny one i had when i was recording where when i finished my reload and pressed left click to cancel it my guy meleed in gunslinger lol
Finally a hunt tuber who gives an honest, unbiased take on gunslinger. So many other people have said hunter is just better and everyone should learn it when in reality if you just learn to lower your weapon when up against walls gunslinger is perfectly usable.
I honestly don't like the way gunslinger looks with all the hipfire, nohipfire, hipfire swapping when switching from sprinting to walking and so on. Also Hunter is more fun for me :)
I notice with some guns in gunslinger, that when cycling a bolt on mosin or sniper/marksmen scopesmith it holds me in ADS for the animation. Same with the spitfire. It has got me killed a fair few times as well
As a new player (154 hours) who's also relatively above average (I've reached 6 star and am consistently 5 star) personally I've found heaps of success by swapping to hunter. I watch my favorite hunt TH-camrs (you and rachtaZ) and I take inspiration from both of you and your play styles, basically combining both into one play style. And, the number of times I've been shot behind walls has decreased, and honestly the grip on my mouse by having to press 2 buttons to aim makes aiming significantly easier. Personally, I vouch for hunter. At least for myself.
When i start playing Hunt i was using gunslinger but i like shotguns most and there was a big issue with using hipfire on gunslinger. There was (and i think it still is) a common bug - when i click left mouse button i start melee insted of hipfire shooting. Especialy when i go from running to shooting. I died few times and made a fool out of myself when meleeing in front of enemies and changed to hunter. Suprisingly i found same bug on hunter too but it happens only once so i consider it not appearing. Also i saw people having same bug and it was funny seeing them meleeing the air in front of me instead of shooting xD
Hunter is great for stealth and specifically controller players. I have an easier transition on the default controls playing hunter. For stealthy you obviously lower your weapon and hands so tools and barrels aren't sticking out in front of you making it easier to change between items without waving an obvious to see object around. If you every try stutter stepping it seems to have less frames to go from sprint to walk and it feels like I can do melee or switch items faster since the weapon is already lowered and the game doesn't have to animate lowering it. Gunslinger is better in a lot of situations as I've been in a situation where someone corner camping got me because I didn't have my gun raised but I was also able to have people run right past me in melee range because they didn't see me in a bush or in a dark corner.
Worth noting that the animation queue out of sprint garbage effects different weapons based on their swap speed - the romero and the crossbow have it the absolute worst, because not only are they slow swaps, you're completely hosed if the timing on the shot gets fucked up.
don't forget that if your peaking a hole in a wall gunslinger can have your gun go through the wall because its at the ready I've wall banged quite a few people because they didn't know
Started with Gunslinger, ain't changing cause I already got over 2k hours and I don't really want to memorize more buttons. It's just simpler, yeah there's a weird af delay but I'm able to work around it 90% of the time.
with hunter yo need some specific settings to make it optimal, if you guys like i can post the settings. this WILL make the difference between a crappy Hunter setup and a Good one.
I see Hunter better for Mnk and Gunslinger is a godsend if you play controller. The issues of Gunslinger are part of the low optimization for controller in Hunt imo. I mean, don't get me wrong its good; but there is definitely some clunkiness playing controller: melee punch on ADS, stuck on ADS, input lag are more frequent on controller for some reason. That kind of thing. The shift values for the sticks are high (this is not a sensitivity issue since that is the rate at which your input shifts values) like say increasing your speed on car in increments of 5-no matter how fast, you are still going up or down in increments of 5. Also there seems to be SOME "aim assist" which causes some weird aim. Its VERY sublte, but there is a "drag" when your aim enters or exits a target. In practice, it makes you miss those super easy close shots or take forever to line up a long shot before you get spotted. Best aim on controller is flicking and quick scoping like a madman. I mean at the of the day its like fk it-just play MnK which is always supreme on FPS games. Im just sharing what I have noticed on both control settings.
If you have a gaming mouse with 2 side buttons, you can play around in both hunter and gunslinger mode. Simply bind hipfire or melee to one of the 2 buttons (Mouse 4 or Mouse 5 are the side buttons) and you should be all set with one extra button to your convenience (I bind the spare to Tool slot 4 as thats where my melees at).
You really dont need to utilize any mouse buttons for melee actions or aiming actions. with hunter or gunslinger mode. You just need to keybind melee button, which can be V or C or x or z ! BUT if you DO have mouse buttons ( i have 2 buttons on my FK2) what you probably want to do is this : You want to use your mouse buttons to switch to your knife, or switch to flashbang or grenade, or also your vitality shot. SO you can heal, throw grenade, or pull out knife with your mouse buttons. I use my left mouse button to switch to knife, and my 2nd left mouse button to switch to vitality shot for fast heal. Those you want to be super quick, switch to knife for fast melee, and fast heal.
@@JackJackKcajify Its just to make it easier and as an alternative for anyone who also has a gaming mouse. I'm really comfortable with this set up in gunslinger mode. I personally dont mind using c or v, but ofc they are binded to other action (For me, c is vault and v is for consumable 3). all choices are optional and customizable to anyone.
@@Re-Hong but the most important thing im saying is that your two mouse buttons on your side ( some mice have more than two, but are not standard), You USE the two side buttons to SWITCH to knife and vitality shot. THIS WAY you get fast knife switch and fast heal.
@@JackJackKcajify Still a valid option, but others would rather have another set of combinations. I rarely run vitality shots. Its more of a suggestion than anything like gunslinger would have melee + "insert option here" and hunter mode would be hipfire/ads button + "insert option here" to the side buttons. Again nothing wrong to your choice for tool switching and immediate consumable, its how the person would utilize their options for their best adaptability and ease in the game where ALL CHOICES MATTERS in split seconds. Its all trial and error.
I'm more comfortable with gunslinger because I've played other games with similar control schemes. I try to put my gun into the unreadied postion as often as I can, just a quick holding of q.
I love gunslinger cause idk why but my hand, wrist and stuff cramp up really really easily (Ive played FPSs for several years lol, flicking isn't a new pattern to me despite my shortcomings) The greatest thing about gunslinger for me was that I had the choice to "stow" my weapon by pressing and holding the weapon swap button But as of about a week or so ago, its stopped working, giving me more of a reason to use hunter, which I don't mind too much but I'm moreso pissed at seeing another case of hunt being made of spaghetti code
@@de4dbutdre4ming Sorry I didn't edit my comment I ended up rebinding the key from "Z" to " ` ", which works just fine now (I also only use that button for stowing, I swap to my weapons with 1 or 2) Regardless, I appreciate the tip!
Great video! I would like to see the guide about your movement, all those jumps, turn, sits. Very interesting, when I try to do so, my hunter just go in slow mode (((
If you have a thumb button on your mouse there's literally no reason not to use gunslinger. I transitioned after playing on Hunter for AGES and it was well worth it, despite the struggle.
Surprised you didn't mention melee weirdness on some specific guns and tools in Gunslinger, like how with the Romero Hatchet, Crossbow, throwing axes and knives, that trying to do multiple melee attacks is a LOT slower if you don't have your gun holstered.
Yeye its the same thing as going hipfire because the game goes hipfire and then after that melee attack so its kinda queued , same like in hunter you have to let go off hipfire so u melee with left click but in gunslinger the game has to do it for you
Hornet, could you make a video about your movement on gunfights? Explaining things like the way you strafe, peek, micro crouch, and the thing you do when you shoot and instantly rotate your view 90 degrees
its hard to explain those things because they happen in a split second during the fight , the mouse thing tho I use no forearm on my table I anchor my wrist on the edge and thats how i play so i can doo quick flicks
@@hornetlul I see. Makes sense. Then I might just ask: is it faster to go back into cover when you turn your vision to that side vs just strafing, or do you move that way just to make your model head harder to hit?
It's not hard since most gaming mouses have two buttons Maney good have Mouse 4 be your melee and mouse 5 as your lower weapon because you can actually select a key to specifically do that meaning you get the benefit of being in Hunter so literally the only thing is that essentially you have them what is technically in a way a minor bug either where Hunter doesn't have that delay or more realistically, where Gunslinger does have a input delay
hey hornet. I'm recently having mouse issues (right click can't be held consistently) so I switched to toggle for shoulder aim, (I already had aim down sight on toggle) and I just wanted to say it's a bit interesting if you ever wanna make a similar video on it.
I'm gunslinger. I've weighed the pros and cons of both and really, I get the same thing out of hunter by manually lowering my weapon, but having the relative speed of Gunslinger.
Currently am a gunslinger but as of this second I am commenting I am going to try and figure out good binds for hunter since I don't like pressing shift to aim
I play on console and started with gunslinger. Tried hunter and was hooked. Idk I just love the way it feels. Going back to gunslinger feels really strep he to me now lol.
@@hornetlul I mean,do you think it’s a necessary trait for taking bolt action rifles? I love to watch you using Mosin to click players head,but I always wonder that while watching your vids
I tried my fucking best to get use to Hunter but I just couldn't, I played too much on Gunslinger lol. Getting use to putting the weapon down in important though, at least if you're trying to hide.
I cant un leard 1500 hours of hunter muscle memory just to have an easier time playing on gunslinger. Plus the melee system feels just so wrong. Especially for bomblance
"the people don't play games to have fun anymore"... I actually stopped playing Hunt because of how upset it made me after being headshoted 5 games in a row without the chance to do anything... Hunt is no fun if you're mediocre
@@rancidraw making a race to see who is faster headshoting the other player makes it really competitive and half of the time I'll be frustrated from working all day, wanting to chill out 2 hours before sleep, only to receive 1 headshot and got send back to lobby, wait 5 minutes and repeat
@@rancidraw let's make it clear that I'm not complaining about the game, the game is good (even with the server issues and the bugs), I'm just saying that after 2.5k hours of playing, this game is not for me anymore
I'm not sure if it works on PC, since I haven't had the chance to test it, but I did find a bug that can circumvent the Hunter's problem with being unable to ADS right away. If you hold down the ADS button while lowering your gun, the next time you press the hipfire button, it goes straight to ADS.
Well it was easy for my brain to make the transition. Your gun doesnt fire if you dont use RMB to go into hipfire mode either. It's logical, if not how people expect it to work
@@Ace-qo9syHe's not preventing from having an opinion, he's just dismissing it. People disagreeing with you are not stopping you from having an opinion.
Hunt is dead. It was a good 5 years, but the community has finally reached the levels of toxicity that I can not deal with anymore. I might as well go play call of duty now because the Chinese and Russian hackers/ping abusers ruined this gem of a game. And on top of that, crytek thought it would be a good idea to spam events like an emotionally unstable partner that texts you every 5 min in a relationship. "Event fatigue? what is that? Never heard of it! " -Crytek probbably Grinding events and quests and dailies feels like a chore now, and not like a cool and fun oppertunity. Because if you do good for one game, you get placed in lobbies with derankers and Rus/Chin profiles of VERY suspicious players. 3 bosses killed, 153 duos wiped, 2.16k/d. 78 hours on the game, lands only headshots. HMM HMM! It's just not fun anymore the way it is now. Every game feels like there is some kind of cheater in it now. Or some 6 star fuckhead that deranked because his ego can't take a beating. Case and point: "People don't play the game for fun anymore, they just sweat. They need to proove....something..." - Hornet 2023. All because Crytek refused to implement a ping cap when they should have... Fucking asshats... A ping cap would have kept at least half of the scum out of EU servers. Why can't they stay and ruin their own servers? Why do they have to come to EU to fuck over our fun? Oh well, it's in the past... Uninstalling and trying to focus on the fun, and not where the game went. Never fixing anti cheat, never fixing desync.... GG crytek, you failed... BUT AT LEAST WE GOT SKINS FOR ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ITEM IN THE GAME NOW! YAY REVENUE! Fucks sake...
Gunslinger I think teaches some bad habits, since while you can put your gun down most players don't, and since the game was designed for Hunter their muzzles clip through walls and give away their position. If you are a new player you should try Hunter, and switch to gunslinger if you are having too many difficulties, but Hunter I think teaches better habits and is part of what drew me to this game as unique. The more features that water it down to a bog-standard FPS the worse and less unique of a game it is. Also saw way more whiffed shots in your gunslinger gameplay. Maybe that says something. I've seen a few hunt youtubers making videos promoting gunslinger recently; is there some sort of push or something for it?
yea thats a good point in gunslinger i just tend to wanna shoot immediately since i can , not really a reason for the video its just maybe if someone starts hunt for the first time they have an easy to find video explaining the differences , I just recommended gunslinger cause 90% of players choose that nowadays . I still like hunter wayy more
Hunter control elitists showing up in comment section displaying why their control is superior 🤡 eventhough its pretty much the same thing as hornet said in the beginning xD
forget about the queuing for melee and fanning and hipfire out of sprint? the game has to bring to hunters ready state before doing what you want. its a small difference but it is a difference.
Only reason i moved to Gunslinger is that using rifles or bow with it is a pain, while in ADS you don't have easy access to crouch button and i put it on my mouse but still it is pain to click multiple buttons at once only to dodge a bullet. And bow ow my, i hate that some times i do melee attack as you need to re click right mouse after every shot you make. Idk i love Hunter controls but i really need convenient button bindings. Can anyone give me an advice on controls and binding you guys use?
I use default bindings, that are like they are since all shooters stick to it more or less. Shift for sprinting and ADS right click for hip fire mode left click to shoot control to crouch Right click goes into bow hipfire mode. Left click pulls the string, and shift to ADS. If you feel like hipfire suits you better, just hit shift again
@@Sk1nSz I will probably use hunter again as i really love smooth animations more than comfort, tried using gunslinger with keep weapon lowered by default and it is nice but have disadvantages when it comes to shotguns and any pistol with fanning. Also tried to set shift ADS for toggle instead of hold but it doesn't sit right to me. I really need some way to crouch mid fight without taking off my picky finger from shift(without leaving ADS). Maybe will try to set crouch on SPACE but i will need get used to jump on mouse buttons which is going to be very hard. Man how are you using crouch without rebinding on Hunter controls?
The only reason I was unironically thinking of switching from Gunslinger to Hunter was because of the Spyglass, you can't change its magnification in Gunslinger
im pretty sure you can its the same as you would do it in hunter : right click then press shift to zoom , its funny as you can see small things like that are still left because how gunslinger works
Hunter users that clown on gunslinger is for people who think they soo special because Hunt is their first video game ever. Imo, use whatever you want, i just think Hunter is aiming with more steps. Which is a hassle when you have played shooters for 20 years the normal way
hunter has benefits. gunslinger i don't think actually does. if you are used to playing hardcore shooters then the hold breath mechanic makes hunter feel normal. having 3 fov choices is another benefit with hunter, melee responsiveness, and no "gunslinger moment" all make hunter just the best way to go. but non of these are huge enough to really hinder your performance. oh and the most important reason to play hunter, think of your hunters arms! with gunslinger that dude's arms got to be burning by the end of the match!
@@Bups693 well lets be real. gunslinger bois rarely use it. i have like 3k hours in hunt and i can tell you that the only time i see a gunslinger use it is when they get in an outhouse. and im normally a 5 star.
@@RazeAndJadith Can you actually tell in every encounter that someone was using a particular control scheme? Majority of the playerbase seems pretty oblivious in general but I am sure that I never had a gunslinger moment, once the possibility to lower your weapon was introduced. And I am closing in on 2100 hours.
@@dankmemer5699 It's just somewhat pride. Actually my brain is hardwired to the control scheme if I play hunt after 800 hours. It would be awkward and hard to train and use a default control scheme like in any shooter. Also I feel the control it gives is quiet fitting. Just imagine having a stressfull fight and going back to your old ways because you don't think straight in that situation anymore and would mess up big time..
And I think I saw in the last fov value video that 100 was used... did you change it to 95? I didn't understand the video very well because it was in English. Why is it 95 and 100 instead of 90 and 100?
@@quintindanzi2631 hello quint. the poster of the comment is talking about mouse DPI, not the FOV. So he is asking whether hornet uses 400 or 800 dpi. Not 100 or 95 or 90 FOV.
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I use gunslinger but I lower my gun like a hunter whenever I get the chance. It gives me a clearer field of view when walking and scanning, not to mention a smaller target to spot.
I just switch the Q key for one of my mouse buttons and built up the habit of holding it down whenever I can.
You don't need to hold it. You just have to hold it for a second and it lowers your gun until you hold it again for a second.
I look at it as a question of frequency and urgency. ADS vs lowering/raising weapon; which one will you want to do more often and which one is a more sudden concern when you want to do it? ADS is my answer for both of those questions, so I'd give that the best and simplest control bindings.
Hunter is essentially using prime A1 real estate - a primary mouse button - for something you only need to deliberately do like a dozen times in a full match.
I use gunslinger with "keep weapon lowered" option as well
It always keeps your weapon lowered and directly goes into aim when you click right
You can get shoulder aim back if you hold-release Q but not recommended with shotguns, fanning, levering where you need shoulder aim
These videos discussing aspects of the game while showcasing with some amazing footage are amazing! Same as the FOV vid, keep up the good work hornet!
thanks i hope when somebody is curios what is what they find it so they know the differences
I use gunslinger, I don't really see a reason to use hunter. There used to be a small pro for hunter where you could avoid having your weapon looking through the wall, but now on gunslinger you can have the same thing by holding q (default).
The only thing that is a bit annoying on gunslinger is that normal knives attack with left click, throwing knives/axes throw with left click (need to use melee button to melee) and hammers etc are melee with left click and throw after right click (ADS) with tomahawk skill. I don't really see a reason why we need 3 different systems for something where the latter one would work just fine for all of them... Maybe give us an option at least.
Just for extra control over your character is good. One more input to ads and shoot but also takes away a lot of room for error that gunslinger has. Fumbling Q hold and switching weapons or accidentally igniting dynamite. I played gunslinger for 600 hours at 5 star and after a day of playing hunter and getting used to it I got 6 star and haven't dropped back into 5 star yet. Who knows though honestly maybe it's literally just how different people's brains work. Maybe left handed people prefer the left hand to ads when they get the chance. The difference is miniscule but sometimes that small of a difference is what puts you at 6 star. Id recommend to anyone to at least try both inputs for a day or two no matter which they are used to.
Hunter Controlscheme... becasue Im a early access OG.
I dont feel like I have any disadvantage compared to traditional FPS schemes like gunslinger is. If you're used to it, R-Click with shift is really quick.
I've been playing Hunter since Early Access in 2017. No chance in Stillwater that I'm unlearned all of that!
I started with Gunslinger as it felt more natural coming from other FPS games. Sticked to it for a month or maybe a bit more and made a switch to Hunter to see how it feels. Was rough at the beginning, but now I'm used to it and it feels... Just right for game like Hunt. I still got some issues with quick flicks where I need to ads at the same time too, but I've been happy using hunter scheme.
nuh uh
I have been playing Hunter and rebound my aiming down sights to a mouse button. I can press right click plus MB5 at the same time and will be instantly aiming down sights. Great workaround for the "slower" aiming in Hunter mode, really recommend for anyone to try it.
exactly how i am doing it right now and i love it
Same, been doing that since the beginning, 1600 hours
Bro literally do the same thought I was the only one
I remaped my Hunter shift button into the forward thumb mouse button which is i belileve the M5 button since the early beta days, I tried Gunslinger from a month ago maybe and couldn't get used on it at all especially during intense fights which needs to run and aim and run again instantly, i got killed couple of times due to that delay between aiming down sight and running, switched back to hunter mode directly again, Hunter ads FTW indeed!
yea thats fine, but you dont need to switch your keybinding off of SHIFT if you want to " Instantly " aim down the sights. You just right click and press down shift at the same time, or shift right after right click super fast. You wont see any hipfire animation or crosshair if you do it fast enough, which is easy with a bit of practice.
in the 500+ hours i've played hunt using almost exclusively gunslinger, i've never once been wallbanged from my gun clipping through a hole in the wall, just dont put your nose up against the wall and you're fine, use whatever control feels more comfortable and ignore the elitists saying your control scheme is worse
So i started out as gunslinger, thought the hunter mode was ridiculous and dumb ( because every other FPS game i played is gunslinger mode, R6 siege, CSGO, apex legends... so on... )
But after noticing that all the good youtubers / streamers and best players in the game were playing hunter, i thought to myself.... why? I should probably switch.....
So i did try switching, but i could never stay, i was getting killed by forgetting to hold shift and stuff like that. I always went back to gunslinger.
I switched back and forth about 4 or 5 or 6 times, never being on hunter for more than 3 or 4 games. Always couldnt stay. BUT ! FINALLY !!
I switched to hunter mode and i never went back to gunslinger! i just decided one day to not go back ! once i realized my aim was the same holding down shift vs not holding it down !
Plus its true. HUNTER MODE LOOKS SO DAMN COOL. A true badass ! Love the wild west outlaw slickster style of hunter mode ! and playing romero and other hipfire shotguns is so damn better!
This. I left a comment with something similar. The feel of hunter mode is just so... good. Feels so right for a game like this, ain't it? I got only... Um... Around 350h I think? I thought I could never go hunter (started as gunslinger), but after switching and sticking to the learn curve I stayed on hunter and never looked back.
Hunt has an extra option to auto lower the weapon. This makes it possible to decide ingame if you want to have the normal gunslinger or the always down gunslinger where you can still fast ads. It's the best option for good gunslinger players.
Nooo Hornet you missed the melee delay bug with Gunslinger
In Hunter, you can chain weapon bashes much faster due to Gunslinger having to hip aim in between each action
there is also a funny one i had when i was recording where when i finished my reload and pressed left click to cancel it my guy meleed in gunslinger lol
@@hornetlul LOL I've never seen that one. I love Crytek but man it seems like such a jank workaround to just have Gunslinger hold RMB the whole time
You get around this by running or holding Q when going for repeated melees
@@felixLucretius yuuup
Finally a hunt tuber who gives an honest, unbiased take on gunslinger.
So many other people have said hunter is just better and everyone should learn it when in reality if you just learn to lower your weapon when up against walls gunslinger is perfectly usable.
This is pretty much entirely down to preference, both settings have very slight situational downsides that can be easily avoided with experience.
I honestly don't like the way gunslinger looks with all the hipfire, nohipfire, hipfire swapping when switching from sprinting to walking and so on.
Also Hunter is more fun for me :)
I notice with some guns in gunslinger, that when cycling a bolt on mosin or sniper/marksmen scopesmith it holds me in ADS for the animation. Same with the spitfire. It has got me killed a fair few times as well
This might be because of iron/scopesmith perks. But idk I don't use gunslinger
As a new player (154 hours) who's also relatively above average (I've reached 6 star and am consistently 5 star) personally I've found heaps of success by swapping to hunter. I watch my favorite hunt TH-camrs (you and rachtaZ) and I take inspiration from both of you and your play styles, basically combining both into one play style. And, the number of times I've been shot behind walls has decreased, and honestly the grip on my mouse by having to press 2 buttons to aim makes aiming significantly easier.
Personally, I vouch for hunter. At least for myself.
When i start playing Hunt i was using gunslinger but i like shotguns most and there was a big issue with using hipfire on gunslinger. There was (and i think it still is) a common bug - when i click left mouse button i start melee insted of hipfire shooting. Especialy when i go from running to shooting. I died few times and made a fool out of myself when meleeing in front of enemies and changed to hunter. Suprisingly i found same bug on hunter too but it happens only once so i consider it not appearing. Also i saw people having same bug and it was funny seeing them meleeing the air in front of me instead of shooting xD
Hunter is great for stealth and specifically controller players. I have an easier transition on the default controls playing hunter. For stealthy you obviously lower your weapon and hands so tools and barrels aren't sticking out in front of you making it easier to change between items without waving an obvious to see object around. If you every try stutter stepping it seems to have less frames to go from sprint to walk and it feels like I can do melee or switch items faster since the weapon is already lowered and the game doesn't have to animate lowering it.
Gunslinger is better in a lot of situations as I've been in a situation where someone corner camping got me because I didn't have my gun raised but I was also able to have people run right past me in melee range because they didn't see me in a bush or in a dark corner.
Worth noting that the animation queue out of sprint garbage effects different weapons based on their swap speed - the romero and the crossbow have it the absolute worst, because not only are they slow swaps, you're completely hosed if the timing on the shot gets fucked up.
Hornet my guy... when you're in Hunter mode, your 'Sprint-to-aim transition' is to ADS or Hipfire? That can explain many things..
don't forget that if your peaking a hole in a wall gunslinger can have your gun go through the wall because its at the ready I've wall banged quite a few people because they didn't know
Started with Gunslinger, ain't changing cause I already got over 2k hours and I don't really want to memorize more buttons. It's just simpler, yeah there's a weird af delay but I'm able to work around it 90% of the time.
with hunter yo need some specific settings to make it optimal, if you guys like i can post the settings.
this WILL make the difference between a crappy Hunter setup and a Good one.
can you post those?
24:34 Soul of the hunter fly away with crows, i saw that😊
I see Hunter better for Mnk and Gunslinger is a godsend if you play controller.
The issues of Gunslinger are part of the low optimization for controller in Hunt imo. I mean, don't get me wrong its good; but there is definitely some clunkiness playing controller: melee punch on ADS, stuck on ADS, input lag are more frequent on controller for some reason. That kind of thing.
The shift values for the sticks are high (this is not a sensitivity issue since that is the rate at which your input shifts values) like say increasing your speed on car in increments of 5-no matter how fast, you are still going up or down in increments of 5.
Also there seems to be SOME "aim assist" which causes some weird aim. Its VERY sublte, but there is a "drag" when your aim enters or exits a target. In practice, it makes you miss those super easy close shots or take forever to line up a long shot before you get spotted. Best aim on controller is flicking and quick scoping like a madman.
I mean at the of the day its like fk it-just play MnK which is always supreme on FPS games. Im just sharing what I have noticed on both control settings.
If you have a gaming mouse with 2 side buttons, you can play around in both hunter and gunslinger mode. Simply bind hipfire or melee to one of the 2 buttons (Mouse 4 or Mouse 5 are the side buttons) and you should be all set with one extra button to your convenience (I bind the spare to Tool slot 4 as thats where my melees at).
You really dont need to utilize any mouse buttons for melee actions or aiming actions. with hunter or gunslinger mode. You just need to keybind melee button, which can be V or C or x or z ! BUT if you DO have mouse buttons ( i have 2 buttons on my FK2) what you probably want to do is this :
You want to use your mouse buttons to switch to your knife, or switch to flashbang or grenade, or also your vitality shot. SO you can heal, throw grenade, or pull out knife with your mouse buttons. I use my left mouse button to switch to knife, and my 2nd left mouse button to switch to vitality shot for fast heal. Those you want to be super quick, switch to knife for fast melee, and fast heal.
@@JackJackKcajify Its just to make it easier and as an alternative for anyone who also has a gaming mouse. I'm really comfortable with this set up in gunslinger mode.
I personally dont mind using c or v, but ofc they are binded to other action (For me, c is vault and v is for consumable 3). all choices are optional and customizable to anyone.
@@Re-Hong but the most important thing im saying is that your two mouse buttons on your side ( some mice have more than two, but are not standard), You USE the two side buttons to SWITCH to knife and vitality shot.
THIS WAY you get fast knife switch and fast heal.
@@JackJackKcajify Still a valid option, but others would rather have another set of combinations. I rarely run vitality shots. Its more of a suggestion than anything like gunslinger would have melee + "insert option here" and hunter mode would be hipfire/ads button + "insert option here" to the side buttons. Again nothing wrong to your choice for tool switching and immediate consumable, its how the person would utilize their options for their best adaptability and ease in the game where ALL CHOICES MATTERS in split seconds. Its all trial and error.
I'm more comfortable with gunslinger because I've played other games with similar control schemes. I try to put my gun into the unreadied postion as often as I can, just a quick holding of q.
"Why is he sitting there in the bush"? To nitro you.
Not an early access player but i switched to hunter a little after i bought the game and now i can’t imagine playing gunslinger again.
I love gunslinger cause idk why but my hand, wrist and stuff cramp up really really easily (Ive played FPSs for several years lol, flicking isn't a new pattern to me despite my shortcomings)
The greatest thing about gunslinger for me was that I had the choice to "stow" my weapon by pressing and holding the weapon swap button
But as of about a week or so ago, its stopped working, giving me more of a reason to use hunter, which I don't mind too much but I'm moreso pissed at seeing another case of hunt being made of spaghetti code
hey, dunno if this bug has been fixed yet for but incase it happens, an alternative would be to make shoulder aim a toggle.
@@de4dbutdre4ming Sorry I didn't edit my comment
I ended up rebinding the key from "Z" to " ` ", which works just fine now (I also only use that button for stowing, I swap to my weapons with 1 or 2)
Regardless, I appreciate the tip!
Great video! I would like to see the guide about your movement, all those jumps, turn, sits. Very interesting, when I try to do so, my hunter just go in slow mode (((
If you have a thumb button on your mouse there's literally no reason not to use gunslinger. I transitioned after playing on Hunter for AGES and it was well worth it, despite the struggle.
Surprised you didn't mention melee weirdness on some specific guns and tools in Gunslinger, like how with the Romero Hatchet, Crossbow, throwing axes and knives, that trying to do multiple melee attacks is a LOT slower if you don't have your gun holstered.
Yeye its the same thing as going hipfire because the game goes hipfire and then after that melee attack so its kinda queued , same like in hunter you have to let go off hipfire so u melee with left click but in gunslinger the game has to do it for you
i will stick with hunter for life
Hornet, could you make a video about your movement on gunfights?
Explaining things like the way you strafe, peek, micro crouch, and the thing you do when you shoot and instantly rotate your view 90 degrees
its hard to explain those things because they happen in a split second during the fight , the mouse thing tho I use no forearm on my table I anchor my wrist on the edge and thats how i play so i can doo quick flicks
@@hornetlul I see. Makes sense.
Then I might just ask: is it faster to go back into cover when you turn your vision to that side vs just strafing, or do you move that way just to make your model head harder to hit?
@@JorgeLTE depends , do you wanna go back reload or rish death and getting a kill
It's not hard since most gaming mouses have two buttons Maney good have Mouse 4 be your melee and mouse 5 as your lower weapon because you can actually select a key to specifically do that meaning you get the benefit of being in Hunter so literally the only thing is that essentially you have them what is technically in a way a minor bug either where Hunter doesn't have that delay or more realistically, where Gunslinger does have a input delay
hey hornet. I'm recently having mouse issues (right click can't be held consistently) so I switched to toggle for shoulder aim, (I already had aim down sight on toggle) and I just wanted to say it's a bit interesting if you ever wanna make a similar video on it.
I'm gunslinger. I've weighed the pros and cons of both and really, I get the same thing out of hunter by manually lowering my weapon, but having the relative speed of Gunslinger.
Whats your KD :D
@@RenTGen666 Not nearly high enough because I make bad decisions in 4-5 star. 0.90
Currently am a gunslinger but as of this second I am commenting I am going to try and figure out good binds for hunter since I don't like pressing shift to aim
I play on console and started with gunslinger. Tried hunter and was hooked. Idk I just love the way it feels. Going back to gunslinger feels really strep he to me now lol.
There are no legitimate cons to gunslinger. It's just preference. You will be elite with whatever you practice.
"Circumvent the issue if you go ads" What do you mean? 1:38
Hipfire delay of gunslinger
@@hornetlul so how do you solve the issue if you go ads?
@@adrianoss.bougas3720 because you can shoot the moment u go ads hip fire for gunslinger the game presses the button after u syop sprinting
Do you have iron sharpshooter trait when using Mosin,or without it?
sometimes
@@hornetlul I mean,do you think it’s a necessary trait for taking bolt action rifles? I love to watch you using Mosin to click players head,but I always wonder that while watching your vids
@@塔納托斯-v6l its nice to have but there is rarely a situation where u get more than 1 shot off
@@hornetlul I see,thanks for replying
thats traitors tooth knife is sick, is this from a previous event ?>
no its from the bark bone and blood dlc , the latest one can recommend with code HORNET ;)
I tried my fucking best to get use to Hunter but I just couldn't, I played too much on Gunslinger lol. Getting use to putting the weapon down in important though, at least if you're trying to hide.
I cant un leard 1500 hours of hunter muscle memory just to have an easier time playing on gunslinger. Plus the melee system feels just so wrong. Especially for bomblance
"the people don't play games to have fun anymore"... I actually stopped playing Hunt because of how upset it made me after being headshoted 5 games in a row without the chance to do anything... Hunt is no fun if you're mediocre
Ended back in 4 stars only to have a full 6 star lobby... come on
@@rancidraw making a race to see who is faster headshoting the other player makes it really competitive and half of the time I'll be frustrated from working all day, wanting to chill out 2 hours before sleep, only to receive 1 headshot and got send back to lobby, wait 5 minutes and repeat
@@rancidraw let's make it clear that I'm not complaining about the game, the game is good (even with the server issues and the bugs), I'm just saying that after 2.5k hours of playing, this game is not for me anymore
For me it's gonna be gunslinger, since Hunter throws me off in other FPS games
Have you played bug fables, hornet?
I'm not sure if it works on PC, since I haven't had the chance to test it, but I did find a bug that can circumvent the Hunter's problem with being unable to ADS right away. If you hold down the ADS button while lowering your gun, the next time you press the hipfire button, it goes straight to ADS.
500 hour gunslinger here , when you are peaking walls just hold Q it would lower your weapon make it a habit and u don't get wallbang 😮
after 17-18 years of FPS experience its pretty easy for me.. gunslinger🤷🏻♂️😂
Hornet legendary Officer Carbine when?
i like hunter cuz it feels nice...I know its debatably worse than gunslinger but idk...its just nice ya know?
7:50 What ... ?
The one thing i dont like about hunter. You have to press RB to use consumables
@@gronek_let him have an opinion
An opinion is fair but it's really not a big issue however you look at it.
okay but what if I wanna punch a bitch with a hive bomb in my right hand?
Well it was easy for my brain to make the transition. Your gun doesnt fire if you dont use RMB to go into hipfire mode either. It's logical, if not how people expect it to work
@@Ace-qo9syHe's not preventing from having an opinion, he's just dismissing it. People disagreeing with you are not stopping you from having an opinion.
Hunt is dead. It was a good 5 years, but the community has finally reached the levels of toxicity that I can not deal with anymore. I might as well go play call of duty now because the Chinese and Russian hackers/ping abusers ruined this gem of a game.
And on top of that, crytek thought it would be a good idea to spam events like an emotionally unstable partner that texts you every 5 min in a relationship.
"Event fatigue? what is that? Never heard of it! "
-Crytek probbably
Grinding events and quests and dailies feels like a chore now, and not like a cool and fun oppertunity.
Because if you do good for one game, you get placed in lobbies with derankers and Rus/Chin profiles of VERY suspicious players.
3 bosses killed, 153 duos wiped, 2.16k/d. 78 hours on the game, lands only headshots. HMM HMM!
It's just not fun anymore the way it is now. Every game feels like there is some kind of cheater in it now.
Or some 6 star fuckhead that deranked because his ego can't take a beating.
Case and point:
"People don't play the game for fun anymore, they just sweat. They need to proove....something..."
- Hornet 2023.
All because Crytek refused to implement a ping cap when they should have... Fucking asshats... A ping cap would have kept at least half of the scum out of EU servers.
Why can't they stay and ruin their own servers? Why do they have to come to EU to fuck over our fun?
Oh well, it's in the past... Uninstalling and trying to focus on the fun, and not where the game went.
Never fixing anti cheat, never fixing desync.... GG crytek, you failed...
BUT AT LEAST WE GOT SKINS FOR ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ITEM IN THE GAME NOW! YAY REVENUE!
Fucks sake...
Gunslinger I think teaches some bad habits, since while you can put your gun down most players don't, and since the game was designed for Hunter their muzzles clip through walls and give away their position. If you are a new player you should try Hunter, and switch to gunslinger if you are having too many difficulties, but Hunter I think teaches better habits and is part of what drew me to this game as unique. The more features that water it down to a bog-standard FPS the worse and less unique of a game it is.
Also saw way more whiffed shots in your gunslinger gameplay. Maybe that says something. I've seen a few hunt youtubers making videos promoting gunslinger recently; is there some sort of push or something for it?
yea thats a good point in gunslinger i just tend to wanna shoot immediately since i can , not really a reason for the video its just maybe if someone starts hunt for the first time they have an easy to find video explaining the differences , I just recommended gunslinger cause 90% of players choose that nowadays . I still like hunter wayy more
Hunter control elitists showing up in comment section displaying why their control is superior 🤡 eventhough its pretty much the same thing as hornet said in the beginning xD
Keep gunslinger moment alive!
forget about the queuing for melee and fanning and hipfire out of sprint? the game has to bring to hunters ready state before doing what you want. its a small difference but it is a difference.
I say play whatever you are happy with lol 🎉
Only reason i moved to Gunslinger is that using rifles or bow with it is a pain, while in ADS you don't have easy access to crouch button and i put it on my mouse but still it is pain to click multiple buttons at once only to dodge a bullet. And bow ow my, i hate that some times i do melee attack as you need to re click right mouse after every shot you make. Idk i love Hunter controls but i really need convenient button bindings. Can anyone give me an advice on controls and binding you guys use?
I use default bindings, that are like they are since all shooters stick to it more or less.
Shift for sprinting and ADS
right click for hip fire mode
left click to shoot
control to crouch
Right click goes into bow hipfire mode. Left click pulls the string, and shift to ADS. If you feel like hipfire suits you better, just hit shift again
@@Sk1nSz I will probably use hunter again as i really love smooth animations more than comfort, tried using gunslinger with keep weapon lowered by default and it is nice but have disadvantages when it comes to shotguns and any pistol with fanning. Also tried to set shift ADS for toggle instead of hold but it doesn't sit right to me. I really need some way to crouch mid fight without taking off my picky finger from shift(without leaving ADS). Maybe will try to set crouch on SPACE but i will need get used to jump on mouse buttons which is going to be very hard. Man how are you using crouch without rebinding on Hunter controls?
The only reason I was unironically thinking of switching from Gunslinger to Hunter was because of the Spyglass, you can't change its magnification in Gunslinger
You can tho
im pretty sure you can its the same as you would do it in hunter : right click then press shift to zoom , its funny as you can see small things like that are still left because how gunslinger works
Hunter users that clown on gunslinger is for people who think they soo special because Hunt is their first video game ever.
Imo, use whatever you want, i just think Hunter is aiming with more steps. Which is a hassle when you have played shooters for 20 years the normal way
Since I played hunt, I actually felt like a aiming mode like hunt should be in any shooter. I kinda like the control it gives.
Game is packed with hackers, not worth playing.
which one is better? look at the chapter sizes. hunter is shorter cause he killed them faster ;)
haha nah i just put less hunter because thats what you see 99% on my channel anyway :p
You plaing 95 fov?
atm yes
damn this vid has been done like 40 times already running out of titles huh
hunter has benefits. gunslinger i don't think actually does. if you are used to playing hardcore shooters then the hold breath mechanic makes hunter feel normal. having 3 fov choices is another benefit with hunter, melee responsiveness, and no "gunslinger moment" all make hunter just the best way to go. but non of these are huge enough to really hinder your performance.
oh and the most important reason to play hunter, think of your hunters arms! with gunslinger that dude's arms got to be burning by the end of the match!
Gunslinger moment does not happen if you lower your weapon so...
@@Bups693 well lets be real. gunslinger bois rarely use it. i have like 3k hours in hunt and i can tell you that the only time i see a gunslinger use it is when they get in an outhouse. and im normally a 5 star.
@@RazeAndJadith Can you actually tell in every encounter that someone was using a particular control scheme? Majority of the playerbase seems pretty oblivious in general but I am sure that I never had a gunslinger moment, once the possibility to lower your weapon was introduced. And I am closing in on 2100 hours.
Hunter mode doesn't even have a reason to exist anymore. It's only used by people who used it since early access and are too prideful to change
@@dankmemer5699 It's just somewhat pride.
Actually my brain is hardwired to the control scheme if I play hunt after 800 hours. It would be awkward and hard to train and use a default control scheme like in any shooter. Also I feel the control it gives is quiet fitting.
Just imagine having a stressfull fight and going back to your old ways because you don't think straight in that situation anymore and would mess up big time..
maaaaaan i thougt this guy was cheating on me xD xD it was just hornet DAAAAAMN
already? yeaaah
*The only thing is good in Hunter, you can do the same in Gunslinger holding Q for a sec, so yeah, Hunter is trash.*
keep in mind Gunslinger is hunter but the game is holding buttons for you
Salty Boi
@@DaussPlays Are you dumb ?
@@DaussPlays nah, we know to hold Q when peeking through cracks 😊
Hunter users are the vegans of the community. Randoms see me in gunslinger and always mention it
Hunter players incoming, who for some reason feel superior because they dont play the "casual control scheme"
100th😊
I am a foreign viewer. What dpi are you currently using? 400? 800?
And I think I saw in the last fov value video that 100 was used... did you change it to 95? I didn't understand the video very well because it was in English. Why is it 95 and 100 instead of 90 and 100?
He posts his specs in the description. 400
prefrence
thank you, guys
@@quintindanzi2631 hello quint. the poster of the comment is talking about mouse DPI, not the FOV. So he is asking whether hornet uses 400 or 800 dpi. Not 100 or 95 or 90 FOV.