I have seen a few comments mentioning the fact you can hold Q to lower/raise your weapon when using gunslinger, and quite frankly I did know and should have mentioned it in the video and I'm not sure why I didn't. But when it comes to holding Q I honestly find it to be inconsistent, finicky, and generally a worse alternative to just using Hunter. While gunslinger has the Q function the control scheme wasn't designed with that specific function in mind. Second thing, there is a setting to leave your shouldered FOV at the same as your lowered FOV and that is just a mistake on my part, so sorry about that guys. Not sure how I missed these two things and I apologize.
Eh, I've become distinctly aware of scenarios where my gun might clip through a wall, so holding Q is basically fine for me. Hipfire at the ready is basically a better state to be in in most intense conflict scenarios. I think a reason most pro hunt players/ TH-cam videos still use hunter is because well, there was a time when there WASNT gunslinger, so they've adapted already?
Q holding sounds absolutely inconsistent way to play, like you already deny your chances on strafing left because you are holding one button down, plus Gunslinger has you holding weapon up all times mostly so you are blocking right side of screen. When holding weapon up, your BARREL of a gun can be seen over corners and THROUGH WALLS Melee'ing as Gunslinger makes you already remap your melee button from V to somewhere else WIth Hunter, just left click, that is faster, no need to press q all times to keep weapon down and you can strafe when ever you need, no need to remap melee button because you just left click Hunter has advantage on said problems that Gunslinger has, your weapon barrel can gets you killed but Hunter automatically keeps your weapon down, so this doesn't happen Advantages on Hunter scene are noticeable when you start playing much more higher ranks
@@mozkuthehermit5909 you hold a for a second, and then you can let go. Holding Q just "activates" the "hunter mode/weapon down" position. Hah if I actually had to hold q the entire time that would indeed be crazy!
dude, when running gunslinger also lowers your weapon, also it stays lowered until you aim after running. There is so much misinformation coming from old players who never learned gunslinger after the patch it’s unreal. Even Hornet and Rachta sound as dumb as you so don’t worry
For any player that actually Is fast AND accurate with hip fire ( firing without downsights) hunter slows you down. Just hold the switch weapons AND boom you got the "cool hunter mode"
I'm already consistently 5 star playing casually and I play a lot of other games. I get muscle memory interfering on tons of games already so I'm less interested in some weirdo control scheme that adds.... kinda minimal advantages. I've hit 6 star plenty of times and while I don't stay there I think decision making and aim is way more important in hunt than your control scheme. Don't get me wrong it has it's advantages but unless hunt is your only game I just don't see a reason to bother personally.
It honestly sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that being different is cool. Understanding that your weapon sticks through walls is easy to learn and adjust to. I genuinely don't see any reason why Hunter is useful at all tbh. FOV , clipping, it all sounds like a skill issue.
Many good streamers admit that nowadays this difference isn't that big anymore and it's down to the person's preference. Many of them say they just stick to hunter because at first that was the only control scheme and they are used to it. Also, having your gun up has the advantage that you hip fire without a second button press. It gives you the extra speed advantage over ADS users you want when you are using shotguns or are fanning/levering.
This* Let's say you are in a scenario, like for example, 2 people facing each other on a corner One hunter, the other one gunslinger Both fin pistol, let's say even the same pistol Like half of the pistols with fin shoot as fast as you click The hunter guy has to press crosshair first, the shoot 2x input, 1 shot The gunslinger guy press lpm twice instead, 2x input 2 shots fired Hunter lose Right now i don't see a single reason to run hunter other than being used to it And the whole video is just repeating use hunter bcs it's the same but it's better xD
Hunter boils down to easier melee (less fumbling in clutch moments), preventing accidental discharges (very important), less screen obstruction during exploration, not having your 2m long paddle sticking out in front of you in 3rd person through walls/windows or around corners). Its just the matter of habit. ADSing on thumb mouse button 1 along with darksight on TMB 2 is second nature to me at this point.
Option 3. Buy widescreen monitor and get bigger vision than hunter while using gunslinger. Jokes aside as a veteran fps player there's no way i'd trade hipfire readiness for fov.
Yeah I used to play Hunter on console but now that I’ve picked the game back up, I’m sorry but it’s just a bad control scheme. There are ways to get all the same benefits as hunter on gunslinger, why would I add an extra input to pull up my weapon followed by a seperate input for ADS, the only reason people still play Hunter is A. They are just used to it, or B. They want to get used to it because it feels more unique.
I was a die hard COD player then I watched PsychoGhost pone kids, and being that late 1800's time frame is on point and it is absolutely the BEST GAME!!! I haven't touched another game after playing hunt!
The main problems with gunslinger is as u said are fov when gun is up , and that ur gun is always up , and I can give u 3 ways to fix the problems , there is 2 settings u can change one the fov , u can set it so it doesn’t change when u lower or raise ur gun , and the second one is you can choose to keep ur gun always at a lowered position with out holding Q all the time
@@dantealighieri1265 yes. you would be surprised just what setting are hiding in your games today (or lack) that the game just simply don't tell you about or added later on. Like the ability to disable the FOV zoom. That was added in after the game was released. Don't know about the lowing the weapon but I think it was after as well. This is likely the reason the pros use hunter setting because after using it for so long it's just natural
@@LordRazer3 found the fov zoom option. But I don't think there is an option to automatically lower weapon in Gunslinger mode. I just can't get used to Hunter mode, the standard layout at least is not good because aiming down sights is on shift, which sucks because sprinting is also shift. Dunno which buttons pros use for it, but it just feels clunky.
You can change your FOV for gunslinger to be the same when lowered and in hipfire. You can also lower your weapon by holding Q in gunslinger. Please do some research before making a video that’s intended to be informative.
that still isnt as good though. you lose a layer of control choosing how zoomed in you want to be. holding Q to slightly zoom out your FOV is a ridiculous prospect.
@@duskworker8469 I'd say adding an extra step to ADS in a game that doesn't have great hipfire is probably a similar tradeoff. Realistically, the FOV tradeoff can be mitigated with a setting and the in-between zoom of hipfire makes very little gameplay difference unless you're really anal about it and playing something like a shotty or magdump perks, in which case the zoom is more of a hinderance with faster relative movement and closer range. If you're just out in the open trying to get a better look at something, ADS is functionally identical aside situations where the gun model is abnormally obtrusive.
@@duskworker8469 Yeah, I mean ultimately play how you want. I was just saying that the differences are incredibly minor and don't really act as downsides as long as you have the muscle memory for it. Switching off of what works for you is almost certainly not worth it. That said, I think discouraging gunslinger by accenting its downsides overstates the problems it has significantly.
agree 100% I went back and forth at first. couldn't get Hunter, now I play with MY heavily modified version of Hunter. MY CONTROLS include shortcuts to get me to tools then I scroll up or down. Q (switch between primary and secondary)is a lifesaver and once I learned of it's existence I never forgot. melee weapon is thumb on mouse and the left click to melee once mastered is so good. one thing is for certain. I can always tell when a Gunslinger is on my team, the random gun shots are too hard to ignore.
I love gunslinger more, I did something weird where my Q is now a melee attack and middle mouse hold bring my weapon down. If I click middle mouse, I can swap weapons and my ping is now C. I think this style works really well and helps with making Gunslinger better than hunter. I just cant do hunter cause holding right in every other shooter is aiming down sights so its weird not doing that. Having to press shift to aim isn't the worst but then I need to take my finger off shift and press shift to run again and that doesnt feel good.
That’s not weird at all. Brother with EVERY game I play I clear every keybind and engineer my own scheme. On hunt I have consumables bound to E, G, Q and Z; melee is E, Medkit is G, chokes/throwables/traps are Z/Q. Tools bound to 1, T, 3, and 4 (tool 2/T is always vits). Melee and Switch weapons are mouse buttons. Dark sight is B/Caps.
Imo The only real advantage hunter gives you is it forces you to practice snap shots and trains you set the camera closer to the guns actual line of sight. Gunslinger allows you to unready a weapon with a input as well. Without the downside of having to constantly having to ready your weapon.
- 1:555:06 Well, with Gunslinger control scheme, by pressing & holding Q for a second, you can lower your weapon (added with the most recent control scheme retouch, in 2021). - 6:34 Most Hunt streamers use the Hunter control scheme, because they either started Hunt before the addition of the Gunslinger control scheme to the game, or (most importantly) because they started Hunt before the most recent control scheme retouch, in 2021. What I say about the two control schemes today: With the aforementioned retouch, both control schemes can be considered the same overall (in terms of the options available to them), but they have different starting point.
Gunslinger can gets you killed because your gun barrel is poking over corners and through walls, with Hunter this is not a issue, because your gun is down automatically No accidental fire, you do not need remap new button just to melee monsters, just left click is faster or even pvp situations when you are that rare situation near player, just left click Yea Gunslinger has its perks but those are minimal when you remember that Hunt is more than PVP shooter, there is also PVE elements and area awareness, you cant have your weapon block right side of your screen all times can you? That gets you killed real quick and i learned this hard way
It’s mostly true and I prefer gunslinger but hunter scheme have few interesting abilities like - harpoon hip fire shooting, toggling of spyglass zoom and the ability to stop pulling the bowstring without shooting. Pretty helpful things but not deciders for me. To be honest that’s the intel I wanted to learn from such a new video is not “if you don’t know what you do you gun barrel with show off your position” what was actual at the release of the game.
Yeah no. It's about the fact what you need more often. Hipfire or downed weapon. If you choose gunslinger, you are basically saying "I constantly need hipfire and only take my weapon down on special occasions", which there is for me no good reason for. You need melee and downed weapons all the time, but hipfire only in fights.
1: You can manually lower your gun when approaching corners. 2: Accidental fire only occurs for noobs. If you're a noob, then Gunslinger will be easier for you overall. 3: Most games require you to bind a button for melee, so this is not a new issue. 4: Left click is not faster, because there are plenty of other buttons that you can click just as fast. 5: There is a lot of unused screen space above your crosshair that you can utilize in order to bypass the issue of your gun blocking you view. If you're in a situation where you need to have your gun raised for pvp, then it doesn't matter, because you would have your gun raised anyways when using Hunter mode. There is no disadvantage in using gunslinger mode, because the only difference is needing to hold to keep your gun lowered or needing to hold keeping your gun raised. You wouldn't notice a thing if you were watching me play with gunslinger on while keeping my weapon lowered.
Honestly, nowadays, the only thing that still makes me play hunter mode is the melee attack, is huge advantage. Since they added the FOV settings for each mode, and you can hold Q or any other button to down your gun, there's no big difference. (And no, I don't want to bind my mouse button to do a melee atack, if it does it naturally. I use the extra buttons to my tools and consumables.) If you're new to Hunt, use Gunslinger, if you're oldschool play Hunter, since you're already used to it. Most important, play the way you want and feel more comfortable!
played hunter for 1000+hrs but switched to gunslinger after they made it viable. did it for ergonomic reasons so i don't have to press less buttons over longer period of time (and i don't like toggle aim)
When in hunter, you right click to hip fire and press shift to ADS. After you press shift you can let go of it if you have it set to toggle. its the best way imo. easy to activate and hold without pressing lots of buttons.
Well since you can change fov and lower guns in gunslinger i don't see single reason why would or should you play with hunter I take guns pulled up and ready to shoot any time over better melee control since game is focused around shooting And that small time lag between pulling your gun up ans shooting can easily fuck you over
I play gunslinger on console and generally have better aim because of it. You can also customize your fov so it stays the same when in lowered and raised state.
Yea super confused on the actual consensus from the community on this one, the other night some guy basically didnt want to play with me if was using gunslinger .
Being that you have access to the wider and narrow field of view in both hunter and gunslinger, I'd say its largely a moot point. That being said, If you are surprised and have to make a very quick shot, hunter adds a step to that process. I'm not sure about everyone, but I've been using a shotgun or got a lucky head shot more than once when some sneaky cowboy comes around a corner with an axe raised.
As a console player it’s way better to use gunslinger since your shotgun always needs to be ready and holding triangle to rest your weapon is a really easy
I prefer hunter, mostly because it makes the game feel so much more unique. Trudging through swamps and feilds rifle down, alert and sweeping the surrounding for threats. Hunter feels like it has so much more player interaction and tactility, its gives texture to its gameplay. I truly do feel as though people that use gunslinger are really missing out, i was one of them. Glad i tried out hunter
@@BrenoAmado Ye i do that the whole game, its called muscle memory. And wym caught by it? Its not like i cant shoot, and its obv that u aint aiming from hip when u close to the wall.
You lose and gain nothing almost nothing between the control configuration. There just that; configurations. Gunslinger can still lower there gun, there's a sepurate button for melee like most games have and you can literally just turn off the FOV zoom. The only thing I can think of as a bonus to hunter is that it's harder to miss fire your gun when you go to melee something but the game did swap to your melee tool when you hit the key
after 5000 hours of gunslinger i'm changing to hunter mode .. it feels more smooth in terms of peeking turning and positioning but it will take a while to adapt
im an old school fps player who played pro level in most of the games i played. im new to hunt and not sure if i will stay because it seems to be very campfriendly and seems to benefit the passive players. (alone because of the delay u have when shooting out of movement/sprint) so yeah if you say its designed for the hunter style and the game is meant to sit behind a stone, pressing your 56 buttons to ads your weapon---> yes then its better with hunter. but just only then. maybe its because im a noob in this game and i really dont mean that offensive or something but are you really trying to say that pressing more buttons before u can shoot precise is better then pressing no button? because that is what you are doing in this vid. (but not only you...many videos suggest that, as if now...after decades of fps games...the makers of hunt came to the genius idea pressing more buttons before shooting improves any kind of skill? i really cant believe that.) in every video im waiting for the big upside of the hunter-style...something like...your weapon is 20% more accurate or you reload faster or anything that has value. but all i hear is "if you camp behind a wall/in a building noone can see your gun!") well if thats the downside of gunslinger, i can live with that. because if i know it...i dont stand directly next to a wall then. if really most good players are playing hunter-style, i maybe should stick to it because then there are not many players with fps experience in that game then. also the fov thing....i play on max fov...so i should have compensated the fact that i use gunslinger...or? i really have no experience in that game but just out of logic...such a "style" can never be better. or do i oversee anything? upsides of hunter are just the weapon glitches through a wall and slightly more fov? please say yes then the case is closed for me :D
I wouldn't consider Hunt a campers game actually, maybe to a newer player it might seem like a camper got them but in reality they were making so much commotion that I decided to follow them until I catch up and get the jump on them. Hunt is a stealth game where the quickest and quietest have an advantage in a positioning heavy game. My gun play in this game is actually very average but I make up for it by ending up behind my opponents.
Hunter is the way the game was meant to be played. It's better because it forces you to play slower and more methodically. Hunt is not a campers game, nor is it a fast paced shooter. Please play gunslinger and run around like call of duty so I can hear you from a mile away and get an easy kill. I have played countless FPS games so not sure what you mean by "not many players with fps experience". I regularly server wipe and get out with two boss bounties. If I can kill you and your whole squad while you're playing gunslinger and I'm playing hunter, what does that say about your "FPS pro level experience" and I don't camp at all. If you need to play gunslinger because you aren't fast enough to press an extra button, that's fine. Me? I won't get caught with my pants down fumbling to raise my gun because I won't put myself in that position. Bottom line is, hunter or gunslinger, it's subjective. There is no benefit to using either mode besides a small adjustment to the way you play the game.
and to add on that. Performing a melee attack is much easier on hunter with your gun down. When a Immolator runs up to me I can just hold click to melee and not worry about accidentally shooting it. I know I'm late to this lol but just thought I'd drop some knowledge on you
@@MrWatZitTooya You can bind a melee key in gunslinger. I use V and press it with my thumb so I can WASD without losing a finger. There's no misinputs there for me. It's far easier to get used to a melee key and the holster bind than it is to get used to the clunk of a 2 stage ADS in a game where hipfire isn't the best, at least for me.
hunter mode is essential if youre using romero hatchet so other hunters will think youre holding an axe and not expect you to shoot suddenly and yea FOV zoomed in on gunslinger is poopy
The only points I'm seeing it "casually or competitively." The competitive players just sit around with long ammo waiting to ambush. Not much skill when all they care about is their KDA. Then there's the 2% of 6 stars that actually know most mechanics and can headshot you through a wall just by hearing your foot steps. Competitive is more down to playstyle, aim and mechanics.If you want to be more competitive it shouldn't matter if you use hunter or gunslinger, more so if you allow to left peak instead of right peak. Now THAT has major advantages over the key binds.
Man, people who love hunter really love hunter huh. I have over 4k hours in the game and the ability to put your weapon away exists on gunslinger. You can turn off zoom in the menu, so the fov argument is moot. With gunslinger you are more alert, and ready to shoot. Holding down q isnt finicky, liar. And on gunslinger you can just shoot and get out of the lowered state.
What button do you have mapped for ads? That's my main problem, which button am I going to use to bind to ads where it's not annoying to press and still move around while ads'ing and also being able to instantly press it when needing to
i watched the video and i dont understand the problem. you think the gun blocks your view too much? but your just gonna not see the floor whats the big deal? and not having your gun peek through wall graphics?
I think it's not a good argument to say: use Hunter because most of the good players use it. You should use the control scheme that fit's best for you playstyle. I like how you pointed out the pro's and con's of each scheme but I would have liked the video more if your suggestion would have been more open minded.
can you go straight from Sprint to ADS to Sprint????? or do i need to hold down both hipfire button AND ADS button to ADS, and then hit the hipfire button to "holster" and sprint again?
You don't win or loose a fight because you play Hunter or Gunslinger , you loose it because you fucked up or the game fucked you with bugs or rng. Back in 2020 you would be right , Gunslinger was worse and had a ton of bugs but these days play whatever fits you more it won't make a difference at all. At least that's my experience after 1.5k hours Gunslinger and 3k hours Hunter even tho I returned to Hunter after trying Gunslinger.
Since noone really said it here you go Step 1: Settings Step 2: Game Step 3: Turn on "keep lowered" box. Step 4: Key customization- Toggle Weapon is the Hold down button for you to manually lower your gun... Step 5: FYI turning ON keep lowered box in step 2 won't make you lower your weapon until your firefight is done. Happy Hunting, You're welcome.
You don't have to use the higher FOV on Gunslinger, I changed it right away because I don't like it. For the melee section, its much better to just bind a different key. Most of the argument seems to be "the pros do it so it must be better" and that's fine, but I feel like you're much more biased against Gunslinger because of that view.
this topic will be talked about until someone gains control do the infinity stones and blows up the earth, with no proper answer/solution on which one is better. I respect the gigachad energy of trying to tackle this topic with this video, I avoided making one because the reason stated above. It's very 50/50 split on what is better and it just depends who you ask. Again, you're a gigachad for trying to do this ahhaa btw, hunter for me. You said all the problems with gunslinger perfectly
Thanks bro I appreciate it, it really is something that will be debated until the end of time but I will always argue for hunter until the end of time so at least we have balance in that sense lmfao.
LMFAO, yeah at the end of the day if you're good at the game you're good no matter the settings. I just think if you're going to learn the game from scratch its best to just learn hunter.
The game was designed for hunter, back then there was no other option. Gunslinger was introduced, and made default upon the game being ported to consoles. The "lower weapon" mechanic was introduced after new player outrage on reddit about getting headshot through walls bc their barrels were clipping through.
You could do better with this video by, rather than using your own personal anecdotes, actually talk to people who use both control schemes and those who switched. My genuine critique for your own content growth.
Gunslinger is superior on PC! I have my melee button on my thumb mouse button=melee ez anytime Always having a crosshair and being ready to fire has saved me countless times My previous experience with competitive FPS games has my crosshair placement on point. Hunter is just a useless gimmick on PC Cant comment on console, due to me not being a peasant
Hunter mode is useless old relic since you can just set shoulder fov normal and hold weapon toggle key with thumb button to lower gun. Witch i'll never use it. It makes my movement and aiming slow and complicated as f
Once you get used to hunter i find it objectively better. But how long that takes can vary by player. Maybe some people will never get it to be automatic. I suspect for many payers it's not worth the time to train it. But for me, my overall speed and movement improved ten fold once I got hunter rolling. It forces faster play and more deliberate actions. I went from 4 to now full time 6 star after the switch. It just made me so much faster. (i mean this is like 1.5k hours ago, but it really sped me up) -Not to mention, higher FOV without active effort (lower button for gunslinger - which i rarely see used in the heat of battle/between shots. whereas with hunter, it just happens once you release all input) -i cant tell you how many wall bang kills i get on gunslinger players because their barrels are poking! It's insane. Maybe one/two a game? Sometimes more. -Melee with left click and thus transition back into guns is so fast and slick with hunter. My melee game went from zero to hero after hunter. All i can say is for people to at least give it a try. Play hunter for a week or something. No harm to try. But thus far, anyone who I have gotten to tried it for a week or so.. has never gone back
I switched on to Hunter at day 1 i started playing 7 months ago and it felt much better to use than Gunslinger play scene With Hunter, you do actions with INTENT, no accidental fire, you are not seen at corners because your guns barrel is poking at the corner (this is real thing and gets me free kill every here and there, plus your weapon is poking outside of walls too so this is downgrade on Gunslinger) You do not think about what frikking button you are going to use to melee NPC monsters, just left click and thats it
gunslinger all day. I don't feel the need to hit 3 buttons to ADS lol. fuck dat. if I want my gun down I press and hold Q. and it's rare I feel the need to do that. the only down fall is pistol whipping. that's it lol put it on my thumb button, problem solved
Kinda misleading with FOV, you can set FOV for SHOULDER AIM and LOWERED WEAPON to Default, so there is no difference in FOVs at all... Hunter is such shitty scheme for someone who played decades of FPS games, it fucks your muscle memory, so unintuitive. No point switching to Hunter for people who play other FPSes, since you can set FOVs as you want. Binding ADS or Shoulder Aim is weird AF, just use Q in Gunslinger and move on sheesh, it works like Holstering in other FPS games like PUBG or APEX. I play mostly R6 nowadays but i keybind my stuff like in R6 now in almost all FPS games which is V for melee, C for toggle crouch, CTRL for prone, if there is ofcourse. Q and E for leans, if there are any, or Q and E for nades, skills. The only thing to change is to seperate Vault and Jump like in PUBG, which gives benefits for window jumping without animation lock.
You're correct about the FOV part but I have also played FPS games for an extremely long time, my main game is CS which I have over 7K hours in and I've played thousands of hours in other FPS games. It really isn't that difficult to learn, it just takes time to learn it. Using Q to lower your weapon is what's unintuitive. When you're in a gun fight you need to constantly lower and raise your weapon for a multitude of different reasons and using Q is extremely janky. Using gunslinger actively makes the game harder for yourself. Saying it fucks with your muscle memory is literally just a cop out to rationalize wanting to stay comfortable and not have to change anything since its "just as good," therefore not progressing. But hey, this comment isn't gonna change your mind but just thought I should throw it out there.
@@maverickiwnl Like i mentioned APEX, PUBG, also COD:WZ and many other BR FPS games have Stowing/Holstering/Lowering weapon under a button mechanics and most got Melee keybind (every time on console it is R3, on PC it's V, F, or B) But i can't find a game where i need to bind a key for Crosshair/Shoulder Aim or Bind ADS to a freaking Shift. Majority of games have similar scheme so people don lose that muscle memory. ADSing with w SHIFT and not with a RIGHT mouse button is JANKY AF, i know you can switch around, but i still need to bind a button for normal aiming which is super odd... Gunslinger offers with Q same mechanic as APEX with keybind 3, same as COD:WZ that has 3, PUBG with keybind X and so on ( i won't name less popular games, no point here, but they share similar schemes) And it doesn't have to be Q, you can bind anywhere, it is mechanic that matters and is shared along many other games. You played CS a lot, but aparently you didn't play other games that much to have that comparison and CS is tac shooter not an open world BR styled game.
@@maverickiwnl "When you're in a gun fight you need to constantly lower and raise your weapon for a multitude of different reasons and using Q is extremely janky" LOL what? 4 star Jimmy detected
As a concole player i prefer hunter, the biggest reason being the more efficient melee and i dont feel like pressing a button to lower my weapon. Makes more sense to take an action pressing a button to cause my hunter to make an action, rather than pressing a button to go into rest. Imo gunslinger is lazy. Nobody wants to take the time to learn and excuse that with "it just fits me better." Hunter should be the only control scheme, and like you said the higher echelon players mostly use it because it gives you more control. Ill say all this so you dont have to take all the hate for saying it.
I just hope cryek adds the option to remove right stick melee cuz it's annoying when I'm trying to aim and I panick sometimes and melee, still a while lot better than using gunslinger.
Video with zero content. All points against gunslinger are either made up, or fixed by a setup (FOV, wall clipping). On the other end, the point in favor of hunter is pressing more buttons to get at the same state as gunslinger, somewhat better? What a 5 minute lost.. (didn't even finish the video)
@@julianoraven I saw it my friend.. the first sentence he says is: "Aproaching a compound like this i look like an idiot" at 0:50 of that video... he didn't switch to Gunslinger, he just made a video.. you just need to watch his stream and you'll see that he made that just for that video.
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I have seen a few comments mentioning the fact you can hold Q to lower/raise your weapon when using gunslinger, and quite frankly I did know and should have mentioned it in the video and I'm not sure why I didn't. But when it comes to holding Q I honestly find it to be inconsistent, finicky, and generally a worse alternative to just using Hunter. While gunslinger has the Q function the control scheme wasn't designed with that specific function in mind. Second thing, there is a setting to leave your shouldered FOV at the same as your lowered FOV and that is just a mistake on my part, so sorry about that guys. Not sure how I missed these two things and I apologize.
All good man. Ive been on gunslinger for a while and dont really feel any inconsistency with holding Q or mby im just used to it.
Eh, I've become distinctly aware of scenarios where my gun might clip through a wall, so holding Q is basically fine for me. Hipfire at the ready is basically a better state to be in in most intense conflict scenarios.
I think a reason most pro hunt players/ TH-cam videos still use hunter is because well, there was a time when there WASNT gunslinger, so they've adapted already?
Q holding sounds absolutely inconsistent way to play, like you already deny your chances on strafing left because you are holding one button down, plus Gunslinger has you holding weapon up all times mostly so you are blocking right side of screen.
When holding weapon up, your BARREL of a gun can be seen over corners and THROUGH WALLS
Melee'ing as Gunslinger makes you already remap your melee button from V to somewhere else
WIth Hunter, just left click, that is faster, no need to press q all times to keep weapon down and you can strafe when ever you need, no need to remap melee button because you just left click
Hunter has advantage on said problems that Gunslinger has, your weapon barrel can gets you killed but Hunter automatically keeps your weapon down, so this doesn't happen
Advantages on Hunter scene are noticeable when you start playing much more higher ranks
@@mozkuthehermit5909 you hold a for a second, and then you can let go. Holding Q just "activates" the "hunter mode/weapon down" position. Hah if I actually had to hold q the entire time that would indeed be crazy!
dude, when running gunslinger also lowers your weapon, also it stays lowered until you aim after running. There is so much misinformation coming from old players who never learned gunslinger after the patch it’s unreal. Even Hornet and Rachta sound as dumb as you so don’t worry
You could also just hold Q when using gunslinger to lower/raise your weapon, this is a feature i see very few people talking about.
Legit.
I do it a lot, just learned to do it by habit wich means i can "play hunter" without doing it :D
If you hold the left mouse button down it does the same thing - I have found this is a good way to toggle between the two modes.
exactly, this entire video is disgusting hunter propaganda
Actually this. I also have a mouse button mapped for melee. I will never have an issue.
Pffft. Gunslinger- set max FOV, hold Q when you need to lower weapon, add custom keys on mouse for the weapon melee attack. Problem solved.
This ^
For any player that actually Is fast AND accurate with hip fire ( firing without downsights) hunter slows you down. Just hold the switch weapons AND boom you got the "cool hunter mode"
This is what I do
This is the way
Amen!
I'm already consistently 5 star playing casually and I play a lot of other games. I get muscle memory interfering on tons of games already so I'm less interested in some weirdo control scheme that adds.... kinda minimal advantages. I've hit 6 star plenty of times and while I don't stay there I think decision making and aim is way more important in hunt than your control scheme. Don't get me wrong it has it's advantages but unless hunt is your only game I just don't see a reason to bother personally.
I totally agree. Cant tell you how many times I've thrown grenades in games when I meant to "interact" with something lol
It honestly sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that being different is cool. Understanding that your weapon sticks through walls is easy to learn and adjust to. I genuinely don't see any reason why Hunter is useful at all tbh. FOV , clipping, it all sounds like a skill issue.
Many good streamers admit that nowadays this difference isn't that big anymore and it's down to the person's preference. Many of them say they just stick to hunter because at first that was the only control scheme and they are used to it.
Also, having your gun up has the advantage that you hip fire without a second button press. It gives you the extra speed advantage over ADS users you want when you are using shotguns or are fanning/levering.
This*
Let's say you are in a scenario, like for example, 2 people facing each other on a corner
One hunter, the other one gunslinger
Both fin pistol, let's say even the same pistol
Like half of the pistols with fin shoot as fast as you click
The hunter guy has to press crosshair first, the shoot
2x input, 1 shot
The gunslinger guy press lpm twice instead, 2x input 2 shots fired
Hunter lose
Right now i don't see a single reason to run hunter other than being used to it
And the whole video is just repeating use hunter bcs it's the same but it's better xD
Hunter is 100% the way to enjoy this game, see it as a non typical shooter experience and combine that with a unique control scheme!
Hunter boils down to easier melee (less fumbling in clutch moments), preventing accidental discharges (very important), less screen obstruction during exploration, not having your 2m long paddle sticking out in front of you in 3rd person through walls/windows or around corners).
Its just the matter of habit. ADSing on thumb mouse button 1 along with darksight on TMB 2 is second nature to me at this point.
ADS HOLD ON TB1!?
@@mhrndzs ads toggle on TB1 and aim hold on RMB
Option 3. Buy widescreen monitor and get bigger vision than hunter while using gunslinger. Jokes aside as a veteran fps player there's no way i'd trade hipfire readiness for fov.
i agree hipfire readiness is more important and in this game you can just widen the fov in settings anyway
The fov thing he talks about is plain wrong, there's a setting to adjust it
Yeah I used to play Hunter on console but now that I’ve picked the game back up, I’m sorry but it’s just a bad control scheme. There are ways to get all the same benefits as hunter on gunslinger, why would I add an extra input to pull up my weapon followed by a seperate input for ADS, the only reason people still play Hunter is A. They are just used to it, or B. They want to get used to it because it feels more unique.
I was a die hard COD player then I watched PsychoGhost pone kids, and being that late 1800's time frame is on point and it is absolutely the BEST GAME!!! I haven't touched another game after playing hunt!
4:45 you can assign a melee input to any key and it works the same way.
The main problems with gunslinger is as u said are fov when gun is up , and that ur gun is always up , and I can give u 3 ways to fix the problems , there is 2 settings u can change one the fov , u can set it so it doesn’t change when u lower or raise ur gun , and the second one is you can choose to keep ur gun always at a lowered position with out holding Q all the time
Teach me master! How you do that?
@@dantealighieri1265 xd , my dude i have to go to the game and check the settings , so you can do it my guy ❤️
@@brothermancalvin so its all in the game settings?
@@dantealighieri1265 yes. you would be surprised just what setting are hiding in your games today (or lack) that the game just simply don't tell you about or added later on. Like the ability to disable the FOV zoom. That was added in after the game was released. Don't know about the lowing the weapon but I think it was after as well. This is likely the reason the pros use hunter setting because after using it for so long it's just natural
@@LordRazer3 found the fov zoom option. But I don't think there is an option to automatically lower weapon in Gunslinger mode. I just can't get used to Hunter mode, the standard layout at least is not good because aiming down sights is on shift, which sucks because sprinting is also shift. Dunno which buttons pros use for it, but it just feels clunky.
you can press "Q" KEY in gunslinger mode and it will lower the gun.
You can change your FOV for gunslinger to be the same when lowered and in hipfire. You can also lower your weapon by holding Q in gunslinger. Please do some research before making a video that’s intended to be informative.
that still isnt as good though. you lose a layer of control choosing how zoomed in you want to be. holding Q to slightly zoom out your FOV is a ridiculous prospect.
@@duskworker8469 I'd say adding an extra step to ADS in a game that doesn't have great hipfire is probably a similar tradeoff. Realistically, the FOV tradeoff can be mitigated with a setting and the in-between zoom of hipfire makes very little gameplay difference unless you're really anal about it and playing something like a shotty or magdump perks, in which case the zoom is more of a hinderance with faster relative movement and closer range. If you're just out in the open trying to get a better look at something, ADS is functionally identical aside situations where the gun model is abnormally obtrusive.
@@TheEpicPancake yeah i often use steel ball bomb lance w uppercut so it would be annoying for me
@@duskworker8469 Yeah, I mean ultimately play how you want. I was just saying that the differences are incredibly minor and don't really act as downsides as long as you have the muscle memory for it.
Switching off of what works for you is almost certainly not worth it. That said, I think discouraging gunslinger by accenting its downsides overstates the problems it has significantly.
agree 100% I went back and forth at first. couldn't get Hunter, now I play with MY heavily modified version of Hunter. MY CONTROLS include shortcuts to get me to tools then I scroll up or down. Q (switch between primary and secondary)is a lifesaver and once I learned of it's existence I never forgot. melee weapon is thumb on mouse and the left click to melee once mastered is so good. one thing is for certain. I can always tell when a Gunslinger is on my team, the random gun shots are too hard to ignore.
I love gunslinger more, I did something weird where my Q is now a melee attack and middle mouse hold bring my weapon down. If I click middle mouse, I can swap weapons and my ping is now C. I think this style works really well and helps with making Gunslinger better than hunter.
I just cant do hunter cause holding right in every other shooter is aiming down sights so its weird not doing that. Having to press shift to aim isn't the worst but then I need to take my finger off shift and press shift to run again and that doesnt feel good.
That’s not weird at all. Brother with EVERY game I play I clear every keybind and engineer my own scheme. On hunt I have consumables bound to E, G, Q and Z; melee is E, Medkit is G, chokes/throwables/traps are Z/Q. Tools bound to 1, T, 3, and 4 (tool 2/T is always vits). Melee and Switch weapons are mouse buttons. Dark sight is B/Caps.
I made the switch to Hunter, and I've struggled far less than I imagined. Thanks for making this video! :-)
Imo The only real advantage hunter gives you is it forces you to practice snap shots and trains you set the camera closer to the guns actual line of sight. Gunslinger allows you to unready a weapon with a input as well. Without the downside of having to constantly having to ready your weapon.
- 1:55 5:06 Well, with Gunslinger control scheme, by pressing & holding Q for a second, you can lower your weapon (added with the most recent control scheme retouch, in 2021).
- 6:34 Most Hunt streamers use the Hunter control scheme, because they either started Hunt before the addition of the Gunslinger control scheme to the game, or (most importantly) because they started Hunt before the most recent control scheme retouch, in 2021.
What I say about the two control schemes today: With the aforementioned retouch, both control schemes can be considered the same overall (in terms of the options available to them), but they have different starting point.
Gunslinger can gets you killed because your gun barrel is poking over corners and through walls, with Hunter this is not a issue, because your gun is down automatically
No accidental fire, you do not need remap new button just to melee monsters, just left click is faster or even pvp situations when you are that rare situation near player, just left click
Yea Gunslinger has its perks but those are minimal when you remember that Hunt is more than PVP shooter, there is also PVE elements and area awareness, you cant have your weapon block right side of your screen all times can you? That gets you killed real quick and i learned this hard way
It’s mostly true and I prefer gunslinger but hunter scheme have few interesting abilities like - harpoon hip fire shooting, toggling of spyglass zoom and the ability to stop pulling the bowstring without shooting. Pretty helpful things but not deciders for me.
To be honest that’s the intel I wanted to learn from such a new video is not “if you don’t know what you do you gun barrel with show off your position” what was actual at the release of the game.
Yeah no. It's about the fact what you need more often. Hipfire or downed weapon. If you choose gunslinger, you are basically saying "I constantly need hipfire and only take my weapon down on special occasions", which there is for me no good reason for. You need melee and downed weapons all the time, but hipfire only in fights.
1: You can manually lower your gun when approaching corners.
2: Accidental fire only occurs for noobs. If you're a noob, then Gunslinger will be easier for you overall.
3: Most games require you to bind a button for melee, so this is not a new issue.
4: Left click is not faster, because there are plenty of other buttons that you can click just as fast.
5: There is a lot of unused screen space above your crosshair that you can utilize in order to bypass the issue of your gun blocking you view. If you're in a situation where you need to have your gun raised for pvp, then it doesn't matter, because you would have your gun raised anyways when using Hunter mode.
There is no disadvantage in using gunslinger mode, because the only difference is needing to hold to keep your gun lowered or needing to hold keeping your gun raised. You wouldn't notice a thing if you were watching me play with gunslinger on while keeping my weapon lowered.
Honestly, nowadays, the only thing that still makes me play hunter mode is the melee attack, is huge advantage. Since they added the FOV settings for each mode, and you can hold Q or any other button to down your gun, there's no big difference. (And no, I don't want to bind my mouse button to do a melee atack, if it does it naturally. I use the extra buttons to my tools and consumables.)
If you're new to Hunt, use Gunslinger, if you're oldschool play Hunter, since you're already used to it.
Most important, play the way you want and feel more comfortable!
played hunter for 1000+hrs but switched to gunslinger after they made it viable. did it for ergonomic reasons so i don't have to press less buttons over longer period of time (and i don't like toggle aim)
When in hunter, you right click to hip fire and press shift to ADS. After you press shift you can let go of it if you have it set to toggle. its the best way imo. easy to activate and hold without pressing lots of buttons.
@@RazeAndJadith Right? Allways pressing q when near a wall needs way more button presses wtf
so... un-toggle it...
@@dem4xed Exactly... the problem is: Gunslinger Enjoyers don't even pay attention to that my friend.. that's why they're always easy to kill.
Well since you can change fov and lower guns in gunslinger i don't see single reason why would or should you play with hunter
I take guns pulled up and ready to shoot any time over better melee control since game is focused around shooting
And that small time lag between pulling your gun up ans shooting can easily fuck you over
I play gunslinger on console and generally have better aim because of it.
You can also customize your fov so it stays the same when in lowered and raised state.
Yea super confused on the actual consensus from the community on this one, the other night some guy basically didnt want to play with me if was using gunslinger .
Being that you have access to the wider and narrow field of view in both hunter and gunslinger, I'd say its largely a moot point. That being said, If you are surprised and have to make a very quick shot, hunter adds a step to that process. I'm not sure about everyone, but I've been using a shotgun or got a lucky head shot more than once when some sneaky cowboy comes around a corner with an axe raised.
As a console player it’s way better to use gunslinger since your shotgun always needs to be ready and holding triangle to rest your weapon is a really easy
U can hold Q to lower ur gun and you can adjust your fov so that it's identical in gunslinger. It is objectively better than hunter.
I prefer hunter, mostly because it makes the game feel so much more unique. Trudging through swamps and feilds rifle down, alert and sweeping the surrounding for threats. Hunter feels like it has so much more player interaction and tactility, its gives texture to its gameplay. I truly do feel as though people that use gunslinger are really missing out, i was one of them. Glad i tried out hunter
you can now adjust your fov so that it's identical in gunslinger, so that argument is moot.
Holding Q for a second lowers your weapon, meaning the one benefit that gunslinger has, isn't even a unique benefit
U can just hold Q to lower ur weapon so its the same as hunter, no?
You do that the whole game? I'm pretty sure you don't... i'm also pretty sure you're getting caught by that and not paying attention to it.
@@BrenoAmado Ye i do that the whole game, its called muscle memory. And wym caught by it? Its not like i cant shoot, and its obv that u aint aiming from hip when u close to the wall.
I used hunter for 800 hours but Gunslinger with melee on middle mouse is just so much better, especially in close range fights.
Nevermind, I switched back to hunter lmao. Old muscle muscle memory started to wake up and it is just tooo strong.
You lose and gain nothing almost nothing between the control configuration. There just that; configurations. Gunslinger can still lower there gun, there's a sepurate button for melee like most games have and you can literally just turn off the FOV zoom. The only thing I can think of as a bonus to hunter is that it's harder to miss fire your gun when you go to melee something but the game did swap to your melee tool when you hit the key
after 5000 hours of gunslinger i'm changing to hunter mode .. it feels more smooth in terms of peeking turning and positioning but it will take a while to adapt
im an old school fps player who played pro level in most of the games i played. im new to hunt and not sure if i will stay because it seems to be very campfriendly and seems to benefit the passive players. (alone because of the delay u have when shooting out of movement/sprint) so yeah if you say its designed for the hunter style and the game is meant to sit behind a stone, pressing your 56 buttons to ads your weapon---> yes then its better with hunter. but just only then. maybe its because im a noob in this game and i really dont mean that offensive or something but are you really trying to say that pressing more buttons before u can shoot precise is better then pressing no button? because that is what you are doing in this vid. (but not only you...many videos suggest that, as if now...after decades of fps games...the makers of hunt came to the genius idea pressing more buttons before shooting improves any kind of skill? i really cant believe that.) in every video im waiting for the big upside of the hunter-style...something like...your weapon is 20% more accurate or you reload faster or anything that has value. but all i hear is "if you camp behind a wall/in a building noone can see your gun!") well if thats the downside of gunslinger, i can live with that. because if i know it...i dont stand directly next to a wall then. if really most good players are playing hunter-style, i maybe should stick to it because then there are not many players with fps experience in that game then. also the fov thing....i play on max fov...so i should have compensated the fact that i use gunslinger...or? i really have no experience in that game but just out of logic...such a "style" can never be better. or do i oversee anything? upsides of hunter are just the weapon glitches through a wall and slightly more fov? please say yes then the case is closed for me :D
I wouldn't consider Hunt a campers game actually, maybe to a newer player it might seem like a camper got them but in reality they were making so much commotion that I decided to follow them until I catch up and get the jump on them. Hunt is a stealth game where the quickest and quietest have an advantage in a positioning heavy game. My gun play in this game is actually very average but I make up for it by ending up behind my opponents.
Hunter is the way the game was meant to be played. It's better because it forces you to play slower and more methodically. Hunt is not a campers game, nor is it a fast paced shooter. Please play gunslinger and run around like call of duty so I can hear you from a mile away and get an easy kill. I have played countless FPS games so not sure what you mean by "not many players with fps experience". I regularly server wipe and get out with two boss bounties. If I can kill you and your whole squad while you're playing gunslinger and I'm playing hunter, what does that say about your "FPS pro level experience" and I don't camp at all. If you need to play gunslinger because you aren't fast enough to press an extra button, that's fine. Me? I won't get caught with my pants down fumbling to raise my gun because I won't put myself in that position. Bottom line is, hunter or gunslinger, it's subjective. There is no benefit to using either mode besides a small adjustment to the way you play the game.
and to add on that. Performing a melee attack is much easier on hunter with your gun down. When a Immolator runs up to me I can just hold click to melee and not worry about accidentally shooting it. I know I'm late to this lol but just thought I'd drop some knowledge on you
@@MrWatZitTooya You can bind a melee key in gunslinger. I use V and press it with my thumb so I can WASD without losing a finger. There's no misinputs there for me. It's far easier to get used to a melee key and the holster bind than it is to get used to the clunk of a 2 stage ADS in a game where hipfire isn't the best, at least for me.
hunter mode is essential if youre using romero hatchet so other hunters will think youre holding an axe and not expect you to shoot suddenly
and yea FOV zoomed in on gunslinger is poopy
Thanks for the tip man I think this is going to help
The only points I'm seeing it "casually or competitively." The competitive players just sit around with long ammo waiting to ambush. Not much skill when all they care about is their KDA. Then there's the 2% of 6 stars that actually know most mechanics and can headshot you through a wall just by hearing your foot steps. Competitive is more down to playstyle, aim and mechanics.If you want to be more competitive it shouldn't matter if you use hunter or gunslinger, more so if you allow to left peak instead of right peak. Now THAT has major advantages over the key binds.
also, if you were ADSing in hunter mode, how do you crouch while still keeping ADS?
Man, people who love hunter really love hunter huh. I have over 4k hours in the game and the ability to put your weapon away exists on gunslinger. You can turn off zoom in the menu, so the fov argument is moot. With gunslinger you are more alert, and ready to shoot. Holding down q isnt finicky, liar. And on gunslinger you can just shoot and get out of the lowered state.
Man...people who love gunslinger really love gunslinger huh? Settle down tough guy.
What button do you have mapped for ads? That's my main problem, which button am I going to use to bind to ads where it's not annoying to press and still move around while ads'ing and also being able to instantly press it when needing to
i watched the video and i dont understand the problem. you think the gun blocks your view too much? but your just gonna not see the floor whats the big deal? and not having your gun peek through wall graphics?
I think it's not a good argument to say: use Hunter because most of the good players use it. You should use the control scheme that fit's best for you playstyle. I like how you pointed out the pro's and con's of each scheme but I would have liked the video more if your suggestion would have been more open minded.
me personnaly im a new player cause of RDR2 that got me wanting to play more 19th century games
what button do high end players use to ads? in hunter? because if i remember correctly, you have to press 2 buttons to ads right?
can you go straight from Sprint to ADS to Sprint????? or do i need to hold down both hipfire button AND ADS button to ADS, and then hit the hipfire button to "holster" and sprint again?
You don't win or loose a fight because you play Hunter or Gunslinger , you loose it because you fucked up or the game fucked you with bugs or rng. Back in 2020 you would be right , Gunslinger was worse and had a ton of bugs but these days play whatever fits you more it won't make a difference at all. At least that's my experience after 1.5k hours Gunslinger and 3k hours Hunter even tho I returned to Hunter after trying Gunslinger.
are players good because they use hunter or do they use hunter because they are good?
Would it be correct comparing Hunter Scheme to the Dayz gun controls?
Since noone really said it here you go
Step 1: Settings
Step 2: Game
Step 3: Turn on "keep lowered" box.
Step 4: Key customization- Toggle Weapon is the Hold down button for you to manually lower your gun...
Step 5: FYI turning ON keep lowered box in step 2 won't make you lower your weapon until your firefight is done.
Happy Hunting, You're welcome.
IF YOURE ON GUNSLINGER AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOWER AND UPPER YOURE WEAPON
also, I MEANT "STEP 3" FROM the 5th step line.... NOT STEP 2
I think its just preferensis , am 5 star gunslinger,and i comfortabl with GS.
You don't have to use the higher FOV on Gunslinger, I changed it right away because I don't like it. For the melee section, its much better to just bind a different key.
Most of the argument seems to be "the pros do it so it must be better" and that's fine, but I feel like you're much more biased against Gunslinger because of that view.
thank for video. I do not agree at all. for good player there is no difference
this topic will be talked about until someone gains control do the infinity stones and blows up the earth, with no proper answer/solution on which one is better. I respect the gigachad energy of trying to tackle this topic with this video, I avoided making one because the reason stated above. It's very 50/50 split on what is better and it just depends who you ask. Again, you're a gigachad for trying to do this ahhaa
btw, hunter for me. You said all the problems with gunslinger perfectly
Thanks bro I appreciate it, it really is something that will be debated until the end of time but I will always argue for hunter until the end of time so at least we have balance in that sense lmfao.
Also Hunter is great because you can't accidentally shoot and give your position away.
YES! That's a huge advantage... and also with Hunter you can stand closer to doors and corners and don't get caught because your gun is not sticking.
You can accidentally melee and still give away your position
@@Khaons and think about the size of your own outline holding a gun while always hipfire aiming... it is so much bigger than while lowered state.
@@Khaons Melee give you away at max 90 meters, but shots is at least half of the map, and also people will know wich gun you're using..
Hold on did yu win that fight? 😮
Me with 5 Stars rank used gunslinger from the beginning: "Am a joke to you?"
LMFAO, yeah at the end of the day if you're good at the game you're good no matter the settings. I just think if you're going to learn the game from scratch its best to just learn hunter.
dint know this was a feature , if have standard settings
hold q to lower your gun.
the console version tells what the controls schemes do.
i prefer hunter.
The game was designed for hunter, back then there was no other option. Gunslinger was introduced, and made default upon the game being ported to consoles.
The "lower weapon" mechanic was introduced after new player outrage on reddit about getting headshot through walls bc their barrels were clipping through.
You could do better with this video by, rather than using your own personal anecdotes, actually talk to people who use both control schemes and those who switched. My genuine critique for your own content growth.
Throw some music in the back ground mate
Hold Q to lower weapon in gunslinger. Problem solved
Gunslinger is superior on PC!
I have my melee button on my thumb mouse button=melee ez anytime
Always having a crosshair and being ready to fire has saved me countless times
My previous experience with competitive FPS games has my crosshair placement on point.
Hunter is just a useless gimmick on PC
Cant comment on console, due to me not being a peasant
hunter forever. the sad gunslinger incels in comments lmao.
I chose Hunter thinking it was a stealth heavy game. I’m glad I started off that way
epic
Hunter mode is useless old relic since you can just set shoulder fov normal and hold weapon toggle key with thumb button to lower gun. Witch i'll never use it. It makes my movement and aiming slow and complicated as f
Once you get used to hunter i find it objectively better. But how long that takes can vary by player. Maybe some people will never get it to be automatic. I suspect for many payers it's not worth the time to train it.
But for me, my overall speed and movement improved ten fold once I got hunter rolling. It forces faster play and more deliberate actions. I went from 4 to now full time 6 star after the switch. It just made me so much faster. (i mean this is like 1.5k hours ago, but it really sped me up)
-Not to mention, higher FOV without active effort (lower button for gunslinger - which i rarely see used in the heat of battle/between shots. whereas with hunter, it just happens once you release all input)
-i cant tell you how many wall bang kills i get on gunslinger players because their barrels are poking! It's insane. Maybe one/two a game? Sometimes more.
-Melee with left click and thus transition back into guns is so fast and slick with hunter. My melee game went from zero to hero after hunter.
All i can say is for people to at least give it a try. Play hunter for a week or something. No harm to try. But thus far, anyone who I have gotten to tried it for a week or so.. has never gone back
I switched on to Hunter at day 1 i started playing 7 months ago and it felt much better to use than Gunslinger play scene
With Hunter, you do actions with INTENT, no accidental fire, you are not seen at corners because your guns barrel is poking at the corner (this is real thing and gets me free kill every here and there, plus your weapon is poking outside of walls too so this is downgrade on Gunslinger)
You do not think about what frikking button you are going to use to melee NPC monsters, just left click and thats it
gunslinger all day. I don't feel the need to hit 3 buttons to ADS lol. fuck dat. if I want my gun down I press and hold Q. and it's rare I feel the need to do that. the only down fall is pistol whipping. that's it lol put it on my thumb button, problem solved
i have hundreds of clips when i kill Gunslinger with wallbang because i see the gun :DD
Kinda misleading with FOV, you can set FOV for SHOULDER AIM and LOWERED WEAPON to Default, so there is no difference in FOVs at all... Hunter is such shitty scheme for someone who played decades of FPS games, it fucks your muscle memory, so unintuitive. No point switching to Hunter for people who play other FPSes, since you can set FOVs as you want. Binding ADS or Shoulder Aim is weird AF, just use Q in Gunslinger and move on sheesh, it works like Holstering in other FPS games like PUBG or APEX. I play mostly R6 nowadays but i keybind my stuff like in R6 now in almost all FPS games which is V for melee, C for toggle crouch, CTRL for prone, if there is ofcourse. Q and E for leans, if there are any, or Q and E for nades, skills. The only thing to change is to seperate Vault and Jump like in PUBG, which gives benefits for window jumping without animation lock.
You're correct about the FOV part but I have also played FPS games for an extremely long time, my main game is CS which I have over 7K hours in and I've played thousands of hours in other FPS games. It really isn't that difficult to learn, it just takes time to learn it. Using Q to lower your weapon is what's unintuitive. When you're in a gun fight you need to constantly lower and raise your weapon for a multitude of different reasons and using Q is extremely janky. Using gunslinger actively makes the game harder for yourself. Saying it fucks with your muscle memory is literally just a cop out to rationalize wanting to stay comfortable and not have to change anything since its "just as good," therefore not progressing. But hey, this comment isn't gonna change your mind but just thought I should throw it out there.
@@maverickiwnl Like i mentioned APEX, PUBG, also COD:WZ and many other BR FPS games have Stowing/Holstering/Lowering weapon under a button mechanics and most got Melee keybind (every time on console it is R3, on PC it's V, F, or B) But i can't find a game where i need to bind a key for Crosshair/Shoulder Aim or Bind ADS to a freaking Shift. Majority of games have similar scheme so people don lose that muscle memory. ADSing with w SHIFT and not with a RIGHT mouse button is JANKY AF, i know you can switch around, but i still need to bind a button for normal aiming which is super odd... Gunslinger offers with Q same mechanic as APEX with keybind 3, same as COD:WZ that has 3, PUBG with keybind X and so on ( i won't name less popular games, no point here, but they share similar schemes) And it doesn't have to be Q, you can bind anywhere, it is mechanic that matters and is shared along many other games. You played CS a lot, but aparently you didn't play other games that much to have that comparison and CS is tac shooter not an open world BR styled game.
@@maverickiwnl "When you're in a gun fight you need to constantly lower and raise your weapon for a multitude of different reasons and using Q is extremely janky" LOL what? 4 star Jimmy detected
Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself. Lol.
Idk! I'm scared. Im on controller
You get used to hunter on controller pretty quickly. I played in training mode for a bit to get used to it
Hold Y/triangle to change from each on controller
in conclusion, Hunter is for sweaty meta gamers that have never actually enjoyed playing a game by just playing it
to quote a wise man: "If you are learning a new game learn it right" ~Fabian Sigismund
As a concole player i prefer hunter, the biggest reason being the more efficient melee and i dont feel like pressing a button to lower my weapon. Makes more sense to take an action pressing a button to cause my hunter to make an action, rather than pressing a button to go into rest. Imo gunslinger is lazy. Nobody wants to take the time to learn and excuse that with "it just fits me better." Hunter should be the only control scheme, and like you said the higher echelon players mostly use it because it gives you more control. Ill say all this so you dont have to take all the hate for saying it.
I just hope cryek adds the option to remove right stick melee cuz it's annoying when I'm trying to aim and I panick sometimes and melee, still a while lot better than using gunslinger.
Agreed
gunslinger gay
talking about nothing....
Video with zero content. All points against gunslinger are either made up, or fixed by a setup (FOV, wall clipping). On the other end, the point in favor of hunter is pressing more buttons to get at the same state as gunslinger, somewhat better? What a 5 minute lost.. (didn't even finish the video)
Have you seen any Streamer or Hunt TH-camr playing Gunslinger mode? There is a reason why they're better...
@@BrenoAmado Some of the best hunt players switched to Gunslinger after thousands of hours in hunters.
@@BrenoAmado Hornet just released a video titled "I switched to gunslinger and it made me unstoppable". I rest my case.
@@julianoraven I saw it my friend.. the first sentence he says is: "Aproaching a compound like this i look like an idiot" at 0:50 of that video... he didn't switch to Gunslinger, he just made a video.. you just need to watch his stream and you'll see that he made that just for that video.
@@greenteaenjoyer9068 Naaah, they don't..