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0:00 Identity
1:33 Runes
5:30 Items
14:00 Summs
14:40 Abilities
19:16 Combos
29:31 Laning
40:42 Teamfighting
45:01 Matchups
48:07 Outro
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Was praying for you to post an Ahri guide since I picked her up as my secondary pick. You’re the goat, your videos have helped me peak to D1. Onto masters
Who’s your primary pick?
@@bluebeast1583became an Akali one trick in season 13
Gl homie you got this!
Great video, as always! I've been watching your old videos recently and it's great to have new ones for it as well! Thank you!
Another combo worth knowing:
E flash can be used to charm at an angle. So you click on an enemy champion or where you think they're going, then immediately flash in a different direction. This will make the charm appear from where you flashed to and will go towards the original target location. This is a bit niche but can be useful if the enemy is in kill range but is hiding behind minions for example
I love the in depth explanation, really nice tips and strategies how to abuse Ahri! Great content well done man!
I was hoping you post an ahri guide. Shok the Goat! imo my laning phase with ahri is okay, just certain matchups that i don’t know how to play in, but i’m sure this guide will help a lot!
I wish when people made guides for League, instead of saying “You might want to buy *insert random item* against a match-up like Syndra” they instead explained in what situation you'd want to build that specific item. I understand that saying “against Syndra” is when you'd do it, but there are likely many more match-ups, and knowing the situation in which you should buy the item would help me apply it so much more.
This is probably just a case of I've explained it so many times that it sorta becomes natural for me just skip over it. For merc treads they are strong if you need the combination of both tenacity + MR + movespeed which is really good against champions that have a combination of AP CC and skillshots. E.g. Zoe, Syndra, Lissandra etc
Great video, as an ahri main I agree on every point and picked up some tips. Thanks!! 🙏
Amazing guide once again :) Eagerly waiting for the Jayce one 🙌
Been playing Ahri/Kass. So glad to see this video up! Your videos are insanely helpful
Kass its hard on this season? Good WR?
@@bernam13 good WR. Haven’t been able to play Ahri lately. Current meta is double ap mid/jg, so it’s been very good. Only issue has been speed of games with grubs.
yay thank you shok ive been waiting to see the rank 1 challenger play my favorite champ and main :3
I got u
was just learning ahri! thank you
Love this Ahri vid
Ya holding charm is +500 LP at least
yo shok! great video and thanks for that. i was wondering about the itemization part that is there any reason why you didnt recommend shadowflame or voidstaff to be built on ahri?
Void is just inferior to Cryptbloom on Ahri because it doesn't give any CDR. Shadowflame can maybe be good if you're solo AP but I think lich bane is just better overall.
The throwback! Enjoying this a lot. But still waiting for the aviator-glasses-cigar-montage...
Such a good video on Ahri! Any chance of a Veigar guide from you? Would love to get your take on his builds & matchups
Not high on the list right now but my guess would be either ROA > shurelya > dcap or maybe just Seraph > Dcap, not sure which is better
great vid as always. keep it up.
Amazing video, Ive been looking to pick up ahri for a while, wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts on void staff on ahri instead of cryptbloom especially if your entire team is ahead?
imo cryptbloom is pretty much always better since the ability haste is very valuable, and generally ahri isn't meant to kill full MR tanks (so your targets won't have huge amounts of MR anyway)
@@ShokLeague Oh, that makes sense yea, thank you! Im still pretty new to the game and I've learned so much from your videos
dam your video are really well made, you really learn a lot from them. Hope you get rewarded for that
You can also e+q and than flash. Doesnt change much but you can flash in both spells with 1 flash. Also you can charm and than ult to hide your charm a bit. But overall i dont use this techs. Maybe in 1 out of 50 games^^
Nice guide as always.
Good feedback
Bonjour Shok !
Great video, I was thinking about playing Ahri a bit recently, so thank you.
I wanted to know whether you've still planned to do an unranked to master series? If yes, maybe Syndra would be a great champion to start with, no?
I am going to do unranked to master but I think I'm going to do a general one before I do champion specific ones
Thanks very much for the guide ^^
i havent played for a few months, i know that they removed everfrost, but what about items like Void staff, shadowflame and ludens companion? Do you not buy those? Also my mate said to use stomrsurge, is that any good on ahri?
Cryptbloom is just better than void on Ahri because the CDR is more valuable. Malignance is much much better than Luden's every single game, stormsurge got nerfed into the ground so it isn't really worth building. Shadowflame could maybe be good as solo AP but I think lich bane is just better if you want damage.
Great guide, Shok!
Could you elaborate on how to use the minion dematerializer? I’m a midlane noob, and I usually just use them on canons when I want to push quick. You mentioned using it on ranged minions during the rune section, but you didn’t say anything about it during the laning section.
Minion demat increases the damage dealt to that creep type, so for Ahri using 3 demats on the ranged creeps can allow you to kill the ranged creeps with 1 Q a level earlier than you would normally. Using them on cannons to push quickly can be useful sometimes tho so keep that in mind too!
@@ShokLeague Than you, Shok!
Hey. This guide is genuinely helpful as a fellow Ahri main who started maining her since November the last year with a great deal of insight from the runes to the matches and every aspect of the game. I would like to ask your thoughts on the rune arcane comet on Ahri what is your personal opinion and how much do you benefit from it, especially vs long-ranged champions and matches, where you wouldn't like to risk to go nearby to attack them (for an example, like taking electrocute vs Lux or Orianna, where they would outzone you if you don't bait their skillshots and risk being chunked and not successfully proccing the electro or attempting to proc it) and rather proc the rune from a safe range?
And my other question is what is the benefit for Ahri to be taken as a first bonus stat rune attack speed instead of 9 AP? Isn't it better to have more AP for the butterfly effect and being capable of one-shotting waves as soon as you have maxed your Q and have bought a lost chapter and dealing more damage?
imo comet isn't that great because you are going to have a hard time procing it consistently and also have no slow to help guarantee it hitting (obviously if you charm someone that's great, but then electrocute probably does more dmg anyway). Electrocute can be really nice vs Lux and Ori for the taste of blood to help lane and then the electrocute proc is good in the skirmishes. I think if you wanted the strongest setup possible vs Lux/Ori you would probably want either Aery resolve or Aery domination (and just take the healing runes).
Extra AP is really nice if you can get away with it, in high elo though a lot of the time the mid laner with more attack speed gets priority over the wave because they get more auto attacks off. If you know you're getting prio no matter what though then double AP is good I think!
I haven't even started and i know its gonna be great
About itemization on Mages: is Rabbadon a must in every build? I tend to pay attention to team comps and I tend to build utility but I always have the same doubt.
For example, if I already bought a Landry's and anti healing but I feel like I am not dealing that much damage because two guys on the enemy team have 1 MR item. Should I go magic pen next or Rabbadon? Is It worth to make a full build including m pen and leaving Rabbadon out of it?
Pretty much yes, I'm going to make a video on ap itemization because it's very confusing. Normally you want rabadons ideally in your first 3 items, at the latest in your first 4 items. So if you know you're gonna need % magic pen early, you could go Malignance > Dcap > Cryptbloom or if they have MR super early you could go Malignance > Cryptbloom > Dcap. If you already went a second item (say liandry) you could do Malignance > Liandry > Cryptbloom (if you need the pen) > Dcap but this isn't ideal, it's more because you didn't realize in time that you would need the cryptbloom earlier. Lemme know if that makes sense, I am gonna make a longer video though!
@@ShokLeague you rock! Glad to know that I was on the right path but lacked the balls to actually execute it haha.
Can you please do an Orianna or a Syndra guide next that would be much appreciated :)
I just started to play Ahri and I find her very OP. I saw a guide where it said to max W first and I like the playstyle. Do you have any thoughts on maxing W first ? Also I loved the video and your content and stream. Keep it up man! 😄
Not really a fan of W first, it can maybe be used if you really want to hard bully a melee lane but you're better off playing a different champion if that's your goal. Pushing and moving is what makes Ahri OP.
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Shok, I'm curious on why you put Taliyah as an "easy" matchup. I find myself struggling against her and find I am losing push on the waves, and then can't match roams with her TP+R. If I try to pressure her with poke/damage, her E causes a lot of threat. Any thoughts? Thanks
imo you should be able to match the waveclear post 6 and if she commits too many abilities onto the wave you may find a window to all in. It could be that you're falling too far behind pre 6 or maybe not taking advantage of her cooldowns early in the lane?
what you think about rushing verdant barrier against heavy ap enemy or just losing matchup ? for example kata vs brand or fizz edit: i waiting for ori,asol,liss or veigar indeph ") you not playing kata but i need for other picks, there is not rly any indeph for syndra in this season
Normally it's better off just to sit on a null magic mantle if you want MR that early in the game, you don't need to go the full barrier
@@ShokLeague thanks for answers you always helping me when i not sure about something
Now we need that Jayce guide!
Hi shok, why do you think veigar is a easy matchup as ahri? I usually struggle against him and have hard time getting a lead on him before he outscales me.
imo you can just spam push him in for the entire early game which should allow you to get 1-2 roams or invades off + deeper vision. He's also pretty gankable and weak in skirmishes so you should win fights around mid early. You can also just take first strike for a bit more scaling since he can't punish at all
What's a good replacement for material demat now?
Biscuits or triple tonic are both fine
Hey Shok, what about Liandry's as a situational item ? Did you miss it or it's absolutely trash on ahri ?
I can imagine vs beefy comps it's of great value instead of lich bane
It's alright, I probably should have included it. The nice thing about Liandry is it'll extend the window you have to get ulti charges refunded from people, but I don't really like it because Ahri kinda sucks at killing tanks anyway and it has no CDR on it anymore
Why do not take shadowflame second? Is it not better than horizon focus/lichbane?
It can be if you're solo AP and they don't have any MR, but that's kinda rare because normally people build mercs into Ahri
Hey Shok, I was just wondering why you recommend buying Sorcs if you are the only AP, but not if there’s multiple AP. I always thought it was the opposite… If the enemy team is stacking MR, wouldn’t you want the additional Magic Pen?
The TLDR is flat magic pen is good against targets with low MR, and % magic pen is good against targets with high MR. Your sorc shoes (18 flat mpen) is very good against someone with 40 MR (40-18 = 22) whereas the 18 flat magic pen against someone with 200 MR (200-18 = 182) is not very effective.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why would sorc boots be bad if they enemy is building lots of mr? Isn't that even more reason to go for extra pen?
Flat pen is good against low amounts of MR but bad against high amounts of MR. For example, if your opponent only has 40 MR, 40-18 (from sorcs) = 22 which is cutting their MR almost in half. If they have 100 MR, 100-18 is pretty negligible and % pen from cryptbloom or void staff will be more effective, especially as the MR gets even higher.
@ShokLeague Makes sense. I appreciate the response!
Finally a Shok video! Great content, as always, really enjoyed it. I was wondering why in many competitive matches Taliyah is picked as a matchup against Ahri, when it is very hard for her to "counter" Ahri's ult with her e. Any thoughts?
Because she can use E preemptively to deny Ahri's flanks, Ahri cannot dash in for a few seconds allowing Taliyah's team to kill one or multiple targets.
No need to stun Ahri if she doesn't come.
Her E ends up being so low cooldown that it can just be spammed out non stop. Also Taliyah scales incredibly well and Ahri isn't very good at punishing the lane, just neutralizing it.
why no ingenious hunter? and do you have any thoughts on ghost poro- wards?
Ultimate hunter is just better on Ahri overall, I tried to make ghost poro/zombie ward work and while they are kinda good early on it's much harder to get it fully stacked in soloq compared to eyeball
@@ShokLeague ty:)
Hi Shok! I like your shirt. Thank you for the update. I always feel greedy when I get my dark seal, but the VALUE!
Thank you
I'm talon main only what do you think ahri fit for my pool ? I like roam alot and oneshot things xd
Yeah it's good, gives you a solid AP option. Katarina is closer to Talon's playstyle tho imo
@@ShokLeague katarina so hard for me :( but tyyyy
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I started playing her as a solid blind pick after you suggested her, having a good time with her!
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What do you think of Electrocute as the go-to rune on Ahri now after its buff?
Yep elec + sorc is the standard most games
What tier would u put karma in after nerfs?
High B probably, feels like Ahri is just a better version of the push and move playstyle at the moment
Any changes to runes now that demat is gone?
Just replace demat with triple tonic most of the time, or biscuits if you have trouble managing mana.
Been spamming Ahri in solo queue, took me from low emerald to diamond on a 58% overall wr this split. Honestly kinda surprised to see my permaban marked as an easy matchup - honestly feels like whenever I play against a naafiri, I can build up a multiple level 1000g+ lead and then they start dropping waves to run around the map and pick up random soloq kills, buy an edge of night, and suddenly I'm not allowed to be within 3 screens of them without getting ran down and killed under 3rd tower when they still haven't taken the 1st.
She definitely can scale out of control and I don't think you're expecting to win 1v1s in the sidelane, but overall your impact should be much higher than hers
i've been seeing a fair amount of people going liyandris 2nd in games where enemies are very tanky - whats ur thoughts on this as a situational item?
It's ok, imo cosmic is better at dealing with tanks but it's a decent item
@@ShokLeague im guessing u like the cosmic better so kiting will be easier? would u go it as a 2nd item or what would u recommend :P
btw i totally love your educational content, keep it up! :P
Can you make a how to buy items for midlane ? what to complete first and how to build 2 items correct and maybe timings etc ?
Yep gonna make an AP itemization guide soon
@@ShokLeague Thanks, becouse im new so i started building a complete item before i move on to the next, but i see "pros" build multiple at the same time. the items in general is confusing. but love your guides. i went from failing to owning even if its bot levels im playing against.
I don't understand the point in triple tonic? Can someone pls explain? How is 60s of dmg, 60s of minion damage, 40g and a skill point better than free boots (300g)?
Because in some matchups you want boots very early and with free boots rune you are forced to wait
A skill point (depending on champ) can be worth a lot of gold, but as the other comment says sometimes you need boots for skillshot matchups
@@ShokLeague got it, thanks! :)
Do you have any tips for yasuo? Or are you mostly a mage player?
Mostly a mage player but the most important things in Yasuo are wave control in the early game and knowing how to play sidelane in mid game to be super efficient with pressuring, taking jungle camps and pushing
@@ShokLeague thank you, youre guide on wave control has been really helpfull, just gotta Clear up the teamfighting And spæitpushing dilemma
I main ahri, and it is always nice to get a refresher each season!
so replace malign with black fire?
Blackfire isn't good on ahri imo
I always found the Veigar matchup to be difficult as Ahri bc his stun is so annoying
Nice!
random question but how much Cassio mastery? I've always wondered lmao
Only 800k, I've played on a lot of different accounts and also I played 550 games on her before they even added mastery points. I would guess I have around 2.5k games on her across all accounts + tournament realm/customs
I'm confused. I thought Lucidity, Malignance, Liandry's was meta now. Some kind of CDR build or w/e. I think it was supposed to compensate for her lack of damage by giving you a lot of rotations in team fights. Was I misinformed or was that like a niche KR build?
Lucidity/Sorcs are just situational and dependent on how much gold you base on. Malignance is definitely the default yeah. 2nd item is just situational as well, Liandry can be good vs tanks but Lich bane/horizon is played a lot too
That archangel staff one?
Not that good on Ahri
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I swear to G, my first three ahri games after watching this guide were 4/1, 13/0, and 7/0
bless
That's my goat
Would love a quick update now that runes have changed and minion dem is not there anymore
Hasn't changed much, you normally just go either cosmic + biscuits secondary if you're going elec (or sorc transcendence if you prefer). If you're going first strike primary then you can take triple tonic instead
Would love a guide on how I can justify spending $500 on a skin.
Much love, thanks!
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Updated rune suggestions now w/ changes?
Pretty much the same tbh, still elec + sorc most games
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Tips to not get autofilled please i want to be midlaner but i get jungle 60% pf the time bcs my main champ only rôles are mid and jung
So you mean you get your secondary role more than your primary? Autofilled according to the game is getting something that isn't your primary or secondary. If you get your secondary a lot, maybe having a less popular secondary makes sense. Then again I play mid/support and even though support is marked as priority I most often get mid
I queue mid/top and i get 95% midlane. If i get top i still play Ahri in those rare games.
@@dannywiegand4919 How much do you change your strategy and build in top lane?
Hmm I queue mid > adc but I think as a mid laner you just have to play other roles fairly often :/
Yasuo guide pleeease
jayce next pls
Syndra guide? Genuinely want to know why you consider her and Ori the best champs in the game constantly season to season.
I did a reworked syndra guide already last season, the gameplay is pretty up to date just the runes/items aren't the same
@ShokLeague Thanks for responding. In terms of information and presentation, its very good.
I guess what I'm really looking for is an item guide for her and Ori.
Returning player with no idea what to do this season.
But I also see you made an item guide for all champions.
I assume it still holds up despite any Nerfs/buffs since then?
@@SumThingFawful The item guide is slightly out of date already I think, I'd refer to this www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/14-8-shoks-rank-1-challenger-syndra-guide-602710 as I normally keep it updated
@@ShokLeague Exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks.
Thoughts on Malignance and Void Staff
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It sucks when you already do everything a guide says and have been playing since season one but still hard silver 😂😭. Like I go 15/3 as Ahri constantly and I go off as Leblanc but still manage to lose, almost considering coaching .
I liked the video but it feels weird for you to present the abilities after build and runes. I feel that we need to know the abilities so we can understand why runes synergies or not, same with the build. Thats how i feel anyway ! But otherwise, very informative.
Hmm I somewhat agree, I guess the way I see it is I want all the pregame stuff out of the way before we talk about the in game stuff. Appreciate the feedback!
you clikc so far from your champ