The biggest difference is the two completely different roles they were designed for. F22 Raptor is the king of air-denial and CAP. It is designed for maneuverability, speed, and interception capability, and it succeeds brilliantly at that role. There is no other aircraft that can compete with an F22 in a duel, not even the Su35 people fanboy over. And it's not even close. It is the natural replacement of the F15, which was the king of air to air of its day, despite the Mig27A's attempt at beating it. There is no aircraft currently deployed that can take an F22. There's no aircraft known in development capable of taking on an F22. In the role of A2/AD (Anti Access / Area Denial), it has no peer. However, it is specifically built and designed with this one role in mind, and it isn't as capable of filling other roles, such as ground strikes, CAS, or surveillance. It is not capable of deploying a nuclear payload, and most of its payload is designed with its anti-air role in mind. As the saying goes... the first time you realize there's a Raptor in your airspace is when you've got a missile trace on final acquisition. It also requires a landing strip, and is not designed to be launched from or land on a carrier. The F35, however, is the replacement to the F16 multi-role strike fighter, and its capabilities reflect this flexible doctrinal role. There's three variants of the basic chassis, which further complicates the matter, as they have very different capabilities. However, the one to really take a look at is the F35-C, which is the first STOVL/VTOL aircraft with supercruise (Harrier could go supersonic, but had to hit the afterburners to do it), specifically designed to be able to be deployed by Carrier and even taking into consideration and taking maximum advantage from the new magrail launchers the Gerald Ford class Supercarriers possess. As with the F16, it is capable of significant payloads, including nuclear capable payloads, while still retaining stealth, supercruise, and range. It can use JDAM targeting packages to provide CAS on targets with what are normally considered 'dumb' munitions, such as bombs, and is capable of being a drone-tender as well, able to relay instructions to nearby UAV's to perform additional tasks in tandem or in support of the aircraft. This includes things like accepting firing solutions from a drone so the F35 doesn't have to light off its sensor package to acquire targets, having UAV's fire a missile or other weapon package from an oblique angle simultaneous to their own launch to increase the difficulty of interception, and probably a bunch of other possibilities that either haven't yet been considered or are still classified so we haven't heard of them yet. The F22 is a bird dog, pure and simple. Anything entering airspace covered by a Raptor will wish they hadn't in the very brief time they have left to regret anything. The F35 is a multi-role JDF aircraft capable of ground strikes, air engagements, CAS, CAP, and probably even surveillance since it can relay information back from drones sent remotely, and can do so from a Carrier. These are two totally different aircraft for different jobs. On the whole, the F35 is a much more flexible package, and can fill the same role the F22 does, although not as well (still better than any other aircraft that exists). Both are good aircraft, but you're comparing apples and oranges. It's like comparing the F15 to the F16.
I enjoyed your assessment. One item the f-35 is stealthier than the 22. It's a newer design by the king of stealth Lockheed. The internet got it backwards but that myth like all should go away after awhile.
Great assessment and I really enjoyed reading it and agreed with most everything you said. I can’t stand seeing all the hate people throw out there at the F35 because it’s an amazing airplane. I mean even our military has played a hand in this negative image by giving her the nickname of Fat Amy,🤣. Although that is done out of love based on her looks, not her capabilities because our guys know what she’s capable of! I feel the F35 is very misunderstood by most people as they think it’s supposed to be a BFM dogfighting beast like the raptor. When in reality it is a JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER, taking on multiple rolls, with dogfighting only being a small part of that. And while it’s no F22, from what I’ve read it still holds it’s own very very well in BFM. Now back to my point, the only two things I saw that I wanted to address were first of all, the VTOL variant of the F35 is the marine corps F35B. The F35C is the navy’s normal carrier catapult launched version and the F35A is the Air Force version. Also from everything I’ve ever read, the F35 is not technically a super cruise capable aircraft. It can “super cruise” in short dashes of about 150 miles at Mach 1.2 before gradually slowing back below Mach 1 unless she lights the blower in which case she WILL speed back up above the Mach but she isn’t super cruising then. Where as the F22 is capable of continuous super cruise at Mach 1.6 until either the pilot doesn’t want it anymore or he runs out of gas! I really enjoyed reading your response though and I wasn’t intending to try to poke holes in it. You had really great info in there about both airplanes Good day
@@davidargon6623 F35-A is a multi-role aircraft which can fill the same niche as the F16 but with stealth and enhanced support. It is to the F16 what the F22 is to the F15.
stan lee I don’t think we would order 4th gen non stealth fighters when we have f-35s and f-22s and even if we did they would probably be tested then put in inventory.
I am really impressed with the helmet technology of the f35! The use of cameras around the fuselage to make it appear to the pilot that there is no aircraft under him is brilliant. He is able to see blind spots other pilots cannot. That's freaking awesome.
Cloud Burst 117 well your comment doesn’t support that position and no one is getting worked up . Just simply insulting you for making dumb comments . I’ll share some info to help you out , it’s one of many . th-cam.com/video/5ogvPFwW6U0/w-d-xo.html
Cloud Burst 117 ok beta.. apparently you are in the know a lot than the guy in link I sent . Maybe I’ll send more links from other pilots and perhaps they can educate you . Here I’ll even share one from a Russian expert . th-cam.com/video/uZbqkxjAK8E/w-d-xo.html
Cloud Burst 117 I bet your a Liberal .. I can tell from the lack of reasoning and logic . Have you read the DOT&E report ? Since your so “researched “ .
That's why using text to speach is always terrible. The bot is so jarring as well as harder to time in post (harder in that the effort it takes to line the script up with video time wise)
As someone who works on the F22 I find it really iritating that your thumbnail is completely false as far as loadouts go. It is very misleading and to be a "military info" channel that is just straight up annoying and damn near an insult to your viewers just saying.
@ ware is the proof both thos planes would shoot your ass out of the sky with out you even knowing it was coming have you ever heard of stealth you would not see the plain until it was Wright on top of you
The whole section about engines was a long list of numbers that made absolutely no sense to anybody who isn’t an engineer. There’s an art to simplifying complex information and this video makes absolutely no attempt to do that.
What was not included in the comparison is the ability to fire in multiple directions. The F35 can basically fire spherically. The F22 couldn’t do anything like that and is now being updated with some of the F35’s capabilities but not all because it would entail too much of a redesign. The fact that the F22 will be able to fire behind itself is quite an enhancement, though the F35 has always had that ability. What wasn’t included in enough detail is the F35’s data sharing capabilities, which are being enhanced in the F22 but not to the F35’s level. Aside from sharing data with other assets to the point where the pilot can see the whole battlefield, the F35 can function as a sort of baby AWACS. The F35 can also be used to give ships early warning about incoming missiles because its downward facing sensors operate from so much higher than those on a ship, allowing it to see further around the Earth’s curvature (farther horizon) and from farther afield. Because of data sharing, the F35 doesn’t even need to fire at the target it locates - another asset can do that. F35 power can easily be projected. To use an F22 you need a proximate base. The F35C can be projected by carrier. The F35B can operate from an amphibious ship designed primarily for helicopters and is way more flexible in terms of how small a remote field it can use. This is an enormous advantage over potential enemies, none of which even have stealth carrier-based aircraft under development. Given lead times from concept to deployment, that gives the US one Hell of a window. No other country has a stealth aircraft that is remotely as stealthy as either the F22 or F35. Any potential enemy is operating at a massive disadvantage against either aircraft. Another issue is numbers. There is a lot of doubt as to whether the Chinese have an actual functioning stealth fighter at all given recent reports from India’s Air Force about being able to spot “stealth” Chinese fighters very easily on radar. If we look at Russia’s stealth fighters, the SU35 is not as stealthy as either American aircraft. But even if the SU35 and the coming SU57 were as stealthy, if we look as far out as 2028 the combined Russian inventory of SU35’s and SU57’s will not reach American numbers of F22’s alone. In terms of aircraft, if we’re looking at 1:1 competition of stealth aircraft, which given our stealth advantage is unrealistic as our kill ratios would be way better than that, that essentially leaves the F35 program entirely unanswered. We’re in better shape than most analysts give us credit for.
The F22 can be updated to have more of the F35's features. Like shooting behind itself. And seeing the entire battlefield. Also the amazing helmet technology. But no matter what they do you can't make the F35 fly or out perform the F22 in terms of manuverability, top speed etc. Because the F35 single engine just can't match the F22. Not to mention the weight etc. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Pagani Zonda. Both amazing cars. But DAMN that Pagani is a Beast!!!!
Chinese aircraft were using luneberg lens during peace time. Don't underestimate your enemy especially over something said by Indian officials, they tend to make false/misleading statements to increase their nation's morale.
“it’s not 16, there was 17 difference between them. the F35 lightning II is compatible with Apple Lightning cable to recharge its Lithium-ion stealth battery”
Tsk, oh...you haven't upgraded to the newest iOS yet. Ya, the software kills the battery faster on purpose. You can either pay Apple for a replacement battery for the iplane. Or fork out the cool. 5Billion for the next Gen. I switched to Droid years ago because, Fuck Apple! Fuck them and their under handed tactics.
What’s even more sad is that the Apple Phantom 12 Pro Max ++ 360° Ultra Max A12 Bionic Quad Thrust I-Promise-This-Is-The-Last-Max’s engine isn’t even built in-house by Apple. Apple buys the engine from Lockheed Martin, as well as that Lockheed makes the body structure for the Phantom 12 Pro Max ++ 360° Ultra Max A12 Bionic Quad Thrust I-Promise-This-Is-The-Last-Max. The Phantom 12 Pro Max ++ 360° Ultra Max A12 Bionic Quad Thrust I-Promise-This-Is-The-Last-Fucking-Max costs $899M per unit, and the Air Force gotta buy the armaments separately... for $139.9M, as the official documents state. And it doesn’t even have as good manoeuvrability as the F-22A... everythibg else is relatively the same in performance. Now you tell me... is Apple better than Samsu- I meant Lockheed?
VERY GOOD! I always wanted a side-by-side comparison. They are now using the 35's in a SWARM pattern! They can see things that nobody else can in the sky.
Can't sell the f22 cause we cannot provide the support needed to keep them flying. The production line is also discontinued for some time now. And no one would pay that price anyway which is where the f35 came in. The idea of f22 export was flirted for a minute but that never came through
I came straight to the comment section just to see if the video was worth it, so after reading multiple comments I decided not to watch it and watched other videos instead
I should ignore (on account of your username) what you said and I hope you are just being sarcastic haha. There's no such thing as "wing missile pod". What you see under the wings is just the weapons bay on the belly being copy-pasted onto under the wings
Yep. Well the edit on the thumbnail is just there to attract viewers, at the cost of accuracy on what the F-22 really looks like. Clickbait thumbnail is all there is
@@ravenslikewritingdesks wow what snark.. Ignored Advice Productions is correct though. Those are an artists rendition of the disposable enclosed weapons pods, similar to those of the latest proposed super hornet. Although not operational they are/were planned to improve stealth performance with external loads. And no, they are literally not a copy-paste of the weapons bay in the 3d model that was used (2:20), other than the missile models themselves. But yeah, partial clickbate thumbnail since they're not in use (yet).
So we have approximately 140 Billion dollars worth of JUST F-22’s. (195 including the 8 test birds) 700,000,000 X 195. That’s insane. And expensive. And awesome at the same time.
next time you throw strings of letters and/or numbers at the audience (like engine variants) use an editing software to put them on the screen as well. Would make it a lot easier to digest, especially for people whos english is not their native tongue.
Bro. I I was thinking the same thing I Must have rewinding the video when they were talking about engines and weaponry like 10 different times for each section to try to understand what they were saying.! Thanks I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who couldn't understand what the hell they were saying and hates the computer voice. Here's a tip spend the extra hundred bucks And get a person to read it so people can understand it
@@goonigoogoo5868 if the point is to go to another place to read on it then this vid is pointless and might as well not exist. This was something called constructive criticism. Go to a wiki an read on it. It's a rather usefull thing for people that actually want to develop their skills.
especially when the grammar is just wrong. 'gives to ability to supercruise' like what? that may be a typo when writing, but nobody would actually make that mistake when speaking.
F-35 is a multi-combat aircraft for both air superior and strike mission, F-22 is a air to air fighter mainly for air superiority ( it can do ground strike like any model fighter , but thats not what it is built for)
@@Barefoot433 What do you mean by "authoritative?" Clearly, you've put forth more effort in school than 90% of the dopes your age but would you clarify what you mean by your comment?
@@fredsanford336 The video is attempting to define important differences between two complex machines; when one purports to do that they are attempting to gain recognition as an authority on the subject. When that is the case, I believe they should use a human voice as a signature responsible for what they are saying. If there are errors, which there likely are, it should be an individual discredited, not just a channel. They’re acting like an authority toward teaching subject matter. Does that make sense? And yes, I was a high achiever years ago; I put my sons name on it because he uses my account to watch silly videos. But he’s an A+ GATE student as well, just very young.
as though you have any experience in what you're yapping about, remind us how many hours you've logged in each plane, how many kills you've racked up in arial combat and lastly where you received your degrees in aeronautical design otherwise stop posting garbage as though you're some kind of self imposed expert
Avionics System is prophetic for my AS in Business. This brings thought to the navigating of it after my first four semesters landing there at my college graduation where I graduated all eight of my college semesters. Terrill TC!
You forgot to mention that both the F-22 and F-35 are also equipped with rotary cannons to supplement their missiles. The F-22 is equipped with a 20 mm M61A2 Vulcan rotary cannon with 480 rounds, while the F-35 is equipped with a 25 mm GAU-22/A 4-barrel rotary cannon with 180 rounds.
They serve different roles, our military is really ducking good at war and the air superiority of the f22 allowed us to design a weapon that doesn’t necessarily need to be dominant in air to air combat. The f 35 is meant to be a joint strike air to ground strike fighter for the navy air force and marines while the f 22 is meant to be an air superiority fighter for the Air Force. They are different weapons for different needs.
Very indepth and comprehensive comparison. Summing up, F35 is a weaker version of the F22 for export purpose. F35 is a mult-purpose aircraft and F22 is specialized for air to air combat.
Hey, the last pure air superiority fighter the US created, the F-15, currently has a kill record of 173-0 and the 22 eats 15s for breakfast. If that's any indication of what we can look forward to in terms of air dominance I'm all in. Wipe out the enemy's jets and then escort the 35s as they tear up ground assets. Then the A-10s can provide that invaluable close air support role that it was purpose built for unchecked.
My 120 college credits to the second power that concludes my bachelor degree's is not only prophetic for the F 22 Raptors double engine but also prophetic for it's joystick. The 120 pertaining to the joysticks up and down of 20°. Terrill TC!
No, it was what reduced the cost and made the aircraft this good. A product completely built by one company will be extremely expensive because they are now kind of a monopoly in the product thus charging high but when it's shared, companies gotta give reasonable price in order to win the contract. The aircraft is this good cause it was built by different companies with different expertise in their department. Sure, one company can build a fighter and still make it good but it will take a lot of luck or maybe too much upgrades.
The issue with the F35 on costs has to do with a perverse incentive to get manufacturing in as many congressional districts as possible. We have always relied on companies developing certain components they are experts at, but this was not the case with the F35. The supply chain was needlessly expanded.
... F-35 has a larger payload, a newer RADAR with better targeting range, and is way more expensive. You hit the wrong points. F-22 has a better engine system for a better top speed, better weapon selection, exclusivity to the US, and a bigger frame with a wider D-wing for better maneuverability. F-35 is a multi-role aircraft with variants and interchangeable parts to operate as a conventional, VSTOL, or Aircraft Carrier based aircraft with emphasis on air-to-air, air-to-ground, electronic warfare, and early warning. F-22 is a dogfighting machine, and while it does have air-to-ground capabilities, the largest bomb it can carry is 1000 lbs. where the F-35 can carry up to 5000 lbs. bombs. The F-22 excels in the fact that it can carry 14 AIM-120 missiles, which makes it the perfect air-to-air intercept machine.
@@ZelphrinsGaming F-35A costs only about half as much as the F-22 though. Its mission availability rate is better as well due to more durable stealth coating on the F-35.
Well obviously. It was designed to fix all the problems with the F-22, over priced and totally exclusive. Being a globally developed and built machine makes its cost effectiveness far greater. It's like saying "what's better, a depleted uranium tipped tungsten core .50 BMG round or 50 regular ones"
@@jarebare555 How does it not make sense? They are not wired, only plumbed. An F-22 cannot guide any weapons launched from those pylons because there is no communication between the mission computer and the weapon.
@@jarebare555 It is true. F-22s do not carry weapons externally and only use those hardpoints to carry external fuel tanks. The pylons are rated for 5000lbs because that is how heavy the fuel tanks are. There were tests of potential external weapons racks, but they were never funded.
A document was accidentally disclosed to a private source that there were 242 F22’s in operation as of 2019 , quite a few more than claimed numbers of 120-150.
Basically the F-22 can either be equipped in air to air or air to ground rolls while the F-35 can be equipped air to air and air to ground roll simultaneously
I just get up and go to work everyday. I support the rich, the poor, and the military budget. Since I am not part of a special interest group, I just get up and go to work every day
The US sells allot of F35's all over the world. But NOBODY is allowed to buy the F22 Raptor. I think that pretty much sums it up. For me the F22 is the ultimate.
I just have this feeling that it's not as incredible in a large scale scenario, and that much like nukes, the idea of it is used as a deterrent except with less to back it up.
F22 is still the greatest air superiority fighter of all time and will continue to be so for decades. Just way too expensive, and banned from foreign sales is what killed it. F35 program is very expensive, but foreign sales help offset it.
It isn’t a good idea to give our most superior plane away but I guess you’re right. I mean why do we need 200 planes that are literally never going to get shot down and even if 5 at the most would get shot down.
@@Man0War with modern air to air missiles, AWACS, and satellites, the F35 can do anything the F22 can do just as well. F22 is overkill, and it's avionics are aging fast.
@@Starlesslemon not exactly. The F22 has capabilities that are classified and the pilots aren't allowed to show in training exercises. The problem with not being allowed to use the aircraft to it's full potential is that the pilots will develop bad habits.
josh denton Hello fellow Denton! If a bird incident were to occur, it would likely be caused by a critical failure of their radar and threat detection systems.
They are developing the aircraft in which the video is about is his point. No Country should base what they do on what other Countries do unless it benefits that specific Country. In other words, do you and worry about yo self! US seems to be okay using the system it uses. Having said all that, I couldn't care less what we use👍
The F35 has never impressed me. The F22 is way superior as a fighter. I’ll take a F15 or F18 over a F35. The F16 is still a awesome plane and hard to replace. The F22 is more expensive but you get what you pay for.
The F35 is what happens when you try to stuff a bunch of novel features into a plane that is supposed to do everything for everyone and for cheap (relative to the f22). You end up pleasing nobody and doing nothing exceptionally well. They also ended up making 3 different planes anyways, so this joint strike fighter was a conceptual failure from the beginning. If they were actually interested in building a cheap strike fighter, they should've followed a 5th generation version of the F16 model of development i.e. for shared parts and cheaper maintenance instead of a gluten of varied novel technology that may not even be practical for deployment at this point. If they wanted an advanced stealth fighter for each service branch, they should've developed three entirely different planes for 3 entirely different roles.
As an engineer, you have to make concrete decisions about which processes you wish to maximize over others. The success of the F15, F16, F18, and A10 were all due to the fact that the planes were well engineered for their respective roles. Taking the A10 as an example, it's redundancy and durable build make it an ideal ground strike aircraft. Another feature is that it's engines are easily fixable with parts that are readily available due to their use in commercial turbofan engines. The engineers sacrificed speed, maneuverability, and technological advances; for a plane that was legendary for it's durability and cheap cost.
The problem with these two planes is they're irreplaceable due to their massive cost, which would become a problem in a long war of attrition as replacing them would be way too expensive.
The F-35 is cheaper to build than a F-15 *At $78 million the fifth-generation F-35A's unit cost compares favorably to the latest non-stealth 4.5-generation Western fighter. *The F-15EX costs $87.7 million per aircraft, and can fly for up to 20,000 hours at a cost of $29,000 per hour.
@@Tgodson69 12 - 32 million would be more practical and build a shitload then ramp up recruiting, going by the way things are we could always overwhelm their air force. I'm sure Putin would have kittens
If you're going to talk about different aspects of the machines, you need to have video that meshes with the topic. What we have here is random video of the two fighters flying around while the synthesized voice narrates about a completely different topic.
I’ve always thought that the YF23 was a superior air frame. Unfortunate the manufacturer failed to get it weapons ready at the time of the competition.
A lot of airplanes are great on paper. If a manufacturer can not get a prototype plane ready on time, it is a big leap of faith to think that they can design a production version and produce the real thing in large quantities
This video wouldve been much more organic if you spoke instead of using a computerized voice. Still a good video, just giving tips to make it more palatable for people
It took a while before I realized it was an electronic voice. It's getting better and better these days. I don't hate it as long as it sounds good. Anyways, great video.
I worked Aerospace for 20 yrs and I worked on the slit tape for the Rapture it was a fun project even met a f22 pilot it was more exciting than meeting kobe Bryant I said to him..Rapture or Nonthing..
@@farzana6676 actually Finnish air force uses the F/A-18C model, and has veen doing it for a long time, untill the new aircraft has been chosen. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force
Great video. One little correction is, and all I can say is that your top speed estimate and a few other details of the F22 are simply wrong, as not even close.
The F14 will always be my favorite jet, the F 15 its still out there and they're pretty bad ass, not to mention the top secret Jets we don't know about, kind of like how we bombed Panama and 77 with the stealth bomber ,and they didn't tell about the stealth bomber till 1991 or 1992, and all those drones that have now, but the F-22 is badass jet
@RC213V Well it was a modernized '1960's missile from the late eighties with equally capable radar against an antiquated aircraft that lacked any form of countermeasures save for being low observable...
@RC213V Oh it certainly was impressive on the end of the Serbians. But the USAF made several mistakes, and never claimed the _F-117A_ was untouchable. I think those aircraft (the _F-35_ and _F-22A)_ are fairly capable against those systems. There is no video of such regarding the _F-22A_ and _Su-35._ The claim came from a Russian civilian news organization. They asked a Russian Air Force spokesperson, but asked in the form of a shotgun of multiple questions at once where he then he replied a simple "yes."
@@RedRider1600 That's a big negative. There is no way of knowing how long, and when stealth will be necessary. It will largely depend on who you are fighting. If you were to fight Russia, or China, it would likely be needed for much longer.
Michael Stidham I doubt it would be longer than a week. Day 1: Destroy radar sites, communications and command and control, and any aircraft that oppose. Day 2: Finish off survivors from day 1. Day 3: Finish off survivors from day 2. Day 4: Bomb tactical and strategic targets.
@@RedRider1600 It would likely take months to even years. If we ever fought a conventional war with someone like Russia, stealth would be paramount to the F-35's survival since almost all Russian fighters are much more maneuverable than the F-35, and are equipped with very long range missiles. Beast Mode may also allow Russian SAMS to detect, and track the F-35, which would make it a sitting duck. It would definitely take months, if not years to take most of them out. You would never be able to take them all out, since some are underground. Stealth would once again be the key factor to it's survival. If Beast Mode did result in a large enough radar signature to allow it to be detected & tracked (it most likely would) then you wise wells to send an F-15 instead because it can carry twice the payload, and would have a better chance at escaping the SAM (unless F-35 ditches all external payload to regain stealth) considering it is about twice as fast, and can climb about twice as high (F-15 has a recorded test flight of (102,000 feet in 1979, newer F-15s can likely beat that due to an even higher thrust to weight ratio).
Because this is a Russian owned channel. They are spreading this shit to make you think that war is still only fought conventionally so that we ignore their constant cyber-threat.
The biggest difference is the two completely different roles they were designed for.
F22 Raptor is the king of air-denial and CAP. It is designed for maneuverability, speed, and interception capability, and it succeeds brilliantly at that role. There is no other aircraft that can compete with an F22 in a duel, not even the Su35 people fanboy over. And it's not even close. It is the natural replacement of the F15, which was the king of air to air of its day, despite the Mig27A's attempt at beating it. There is no aircraft currently deployed that can take an F22. There's no aircraft known in development capable of taking on an F22. In the role of A2/AD (Anti Access / Area Denial), it has no peer. However, it is specifically built and designed with this one role in mind, and it isn't as capable of filling other roles, such as ground strikes, CAS, or surveillance. It is not capable of deploying a nuclear payload, and most of its payload is designed with its anti-air role in mind. As the saying goes... the first time you realize there's a Raptor in your airspace is when you've got a missile trace on final acquisition. It also requires a landing strip, and is not designed to be launched from or land on a carrier.
The F35, however, is the replacement to the F16 multi-role strike fighter, and its capabilities reflect this flexible doctrinal role. There's three variants of the basic chassis, which further complicates the matter, as they have very different capabilities. However, the one to really take a look at is the F35-C, which is the first STOVL/VTOL aircraft with supercruise (Harrier could go supersonic, but had to hit the afterburners to do it), specifically designed to be able to be deployed by Carrier and even taking into consideration and taking maximum advantage from the new magrail launchers the Gerald Ford class Supercarriers possess. As with the F16, it is capable of significant payloads, including nuclear capable payloads, while still retaining stealth, supercruise, and range. It can use JDAM targeting packages to provide CAS on targets with what are normally considered 'dumb' munitions, such as bombs, and is capable of being a drone-tender as well, able to relay instructions to nearby UAV's to perform additional tasks in tandem or in support of the aircraft. This includes things like accepting firing solutions from a drone so the F35 doesn't have to light off its sensor package to acquire targets, having UAV's fire a missile or other weapon package from an oblique angle simultaneous to their own launch to increase the difficulty of interception, and probably a bunch of other possibilities that either haven't yet been considered or are still classified so we haven't heard of them yet.
The F22 is a bird dog, pure and simple. Anything entering airspace covered by a Raptor will wish they hadn't in the very brief time they have left to regret anything. The F35 is a multi-role JDF aircraft capable of ground strikes, air engagements, CAS, CAP, and probably even surveillance since it can relay information back from drones sent remotely, and can do so from a Carrier. These are two totally different aircraft for different jobs. On the whole, the F35 is a much more flexible package, and can fill the same role the F22 does, although not as well (still better than any other aircraft that exists). Both are good aircraft, but you're comparing apples and oranges. It's like comparing the F15 to the F16.
I enjoyed your assessment. One item the f-35 is stealthier than the 22. It's a newer design by the king of stealth Lockheed. The internet got it backwards but that myth like all should go away after awhile.
Great assessment and I really enjoyed reading it and agreed with most everything you said. I can’t stand seeing all the hate people throw out there at the F35 because it’s an amazing airplane. I mean even our military has played a hand in this negative image by giving her the nickname of Fat Amy,🤣. Although that is done out of love based on her looks, not her capabilities because our guys know what she’s capable of! I feel the F35 is very misunderstood by most people as they think it’s supposed to be a BFM dogfighting beast like the raptor. When in reality it is a JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER, taking on multiple rolls, with dogfighting only being a small part of that. And while it’s no F22, from what I’ve read it still holds it’s own very very well in BFM. Now back to my point, the only two things I saw that I wanted to address were first of all, the VTOL variant of the F35 is the marine corps F35B. The F35C is the navy’s normal carrier catapult launched version and the F35A is the Air Force version. Also from everything I’ve ever read, the F35 is not technically a super cruise capable aircraft. It can “super cruise” in short dashes of about 150 miles at Mach 1.2 before gradually slowing back below Mach 1 unless she lights the blower in which case she WILL speed back up above the Mach but she isn’t super cruising then. Where as the F22 is capable of continuous super cruise at Mach 1.6 until either the pilot doesn’t want it anymore or he runs out of gas! I really enjoyed reading your response though and I wasn’t intending to try to poke holes in it. You had really great info in there about both airplanes Good day
Which harrier you talking about? Harrier never had afterburners,
I get that the F-35 makes sense for Navy. What I don’t get is the F-35A for the Air Force.
@@davidargon6623 F35-A is a multi-role aircraft which can fill the same niche as the F16 but with stealth and enhanced support. It is to the F16 what the F22 is to the F15.
F22 will always be my all-time favourite.
F22 is useless .... F22 is afraid of jf17 of pakistan air force.... America is afraid of pakistan
@ I'm sure they are mate.
stan lee the jf17 is a flying death trap
@@R_Alexander029 yes they should afraid of almighty pakistan
stan lee I don’t think we would order 4th gen non stealth fighters when we have f-35s and f-22s and even if we did they would probably be tested then put in inventory.
I am really impressed with the helmet technology of the f35! The use of cameras around the fuselage to make it appear to the pilot that there is no aircraft under him is brilliant. He is able to see blind spots other pilots cannot. That's freaking awesome.
Cloud Burst 117 your out to lunch . Do some research couch potato.
Cloud Burst 117 well your comment doesn’t support that position and no one is getting worked up . Just simply insulting you for making dumb comments .
I’ll share some info to help you out , it’s one of many .
th-cam.com/video/5ogvPFwW6U0/w-d-xo.html
Cloud Burst 117 ok beta.. apparently you are in the know a lot than the guy in link I sent .
Maybe I’ll send more links from other pilots and perhaps they can educate you .
Here I’ll even share one from a Russian expert .
th-cam.com/video/uZbqkxjAK8E/w-d-xo.html
Cloud Burst 117 I bet your a Liberal .. I can tell from the lack of reasoning and logic .
Have you read the DOT&E report ? Since your so “researched “ .
@@donlarsen4841 lol, my man! Truth!
He’s talking about the F22 WHILE SHOWING THE f 35 and vice versa
"It", not "He" is talking about THE F22 WHILE SHOWING THE f 35 and vice versa.
Same thing. I feel safe
@@pukavoket slow down grammar nazi. That was only a summary offense
That's why using text to speach is always terrible. The bot is so jarring as well as harder to time in post (harder in that the effort it takes to line the script up with video time wise)
That's because he took another video, took the sound from it, and put over another video.
The robot voice has to go and you were showing the wrong jets when you were talking about them
Worm Science no he wasn’t
Joshable 4:24 he was talking about do US introducing the F 35 into the Air Force, but it shows the blueprints of an F 22
also he called he aim 9 m an air to ground missile , it is in fact air to air 6 km short range missle
Thatdoesnt really matter
He also called a aim 120 an air to grund missile
As someone who works on the F22 I find it really iritating that your thumbnail is completely false as far as loadouts go. It is very misleading and to be a "military info" channel that is just straight up annoying and damn near an insult to your viewers just saying.
@rrobertt13 it's the 8AAM missle pods from ace combat 7, its fictional but pretty badass
It's a fictional weapon from ace combat 7 that allows you to fire at 8 aircraft at once, its completely fake tho
Nevermind the stuff they dont know about the planes haha 1A pilot here
Pakistan Air force jf17 is thousand times better than f22 and f35 ... We defeated f22 and f35
@ ware is the proof both thos planes would shoot your ass out of the sky with out you even knowing it was coming have you ever heard of stealth you would not see the plain until it was Wright on top of you
The F22 looks more Cooler and more Badass❤️
7 ad breaks in 17 minutes. Your channel isn’t worth a sub
TH-cam premium bro get it
@NA Phiri yeah 😂 let him breathe
Bro he doesn’t choose how many
@@masonfrench3475 he chooses where and how many
TH-cam premium bro
The whole section about engines was a long list of numbers that made absolutely no sense to anybody who isn’t an engineer. There’s an art to simplifying complex information and this video makes absolutely no attempt to do that.
thats cause he most likely just googled it lol or Wikipediad it xD
The numbers made plenty of sense to me. Oh, wait, I'm an engineer.
What was not included in the comparison is the ability to fire in multiple directions. The F35 can basically fire spherically. The F22 couldn’t do anything like that and is now being updated with some of the F35’s capabilities but not all because it would entail too much of a redesign. The fact that the F22 will be able to fire behind itself is quite an enhancement, though the F35 has always had that ability.
What wasn’t included in enough detail is the F35’s data sharing capabilities, which are being enhanced in the F22 but not to the F35’s level. Aside from sharing data with other assets to the point where the pilot can see the whole battlefield, the F35 can function as a sort of baby AWACS. The F35 can also be used to give ships early warning about incoming missiles because its downward facing sensors operate from so much higher than those on a ship, allowing it to see further around the Earth’s curvature (farther horizon) and from farther afield. Because of data sharing, the F35 doesn’t even need to fire at the target it locates - another asset can do that.
F35 power can easily be projected. To use an F22 you need a proximate base. The F35C can be projected by carrier. The F35B can operate from an amphibious ship designed primarily for helicopters and is way more flexible in terms of how small a remote field it can use. This is an enormous advantage over potential enemies, none of which even have stealth carrier-based aircraft under development. Given lead times from concept to deployment, that gives the US one Hell of a window.
No other country has a stealth aircraft that is remotely as stealthy as either the F22 or F35. Any potential enemy is operating at a massive disadvantage against either aircraft. Another issue is numbers. There is a lot of doubt as to whether the Chinese have an actual functioning stealth fighter at all given recent reports from India’s Air Force about being able to spot “stealth” Chinese fighters very easily on radar. If we look at Russia’s stealth fighters, the SU35 is not as stealthy as either American aircraft. But even if the SU35 and the coming SU57 were as stealthy, if we look as far out as 2028 the combined Russian inventory of SU35’s and SU57’s will not reach American numbers of F22’s alone. In terms of aircraft, if we’re looking at 1:1 competition of stealth aircraft, which given our stealth advantage is unrealistic as our kill ratios would be way better than that, that essentially leaves the F35 program entirely unanswered.
We’re in better shape than most analysts give us credit for.
Relax bro you don't even know half the abilities of f22 yet neither do their pilots why do you think it cost 750 million dollars to obtain 1 f22?
@@ZhawK_5010
That was the estimated cost including maintenance for the life of the airframe, wasn't it?
Yep
The F22 can be updated to have more of the F35's features. Like shooting behind itself. And seeing the entire battlefield. Also the amazing helmet technology. But no matter what they do you can't make the F35 fly or out perform the F22 in terms of manuverability, top speed etc. Because the F35 single engine just can't match the F22. Not to mention the weight etc. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Pagani Zonda. Both amazing cars. But DAMN that Pagani is a Beast!!!!
Chinese aircraft were using luneberg lens during peace time. Don't underestimate your enemy especially over something said by Indian officials, they tend to make false/misleading statements to increase their nation's morale.
You forgot the most important one: F-22 has stealth engine exhaust, F-35 does not and thus has limited rear quarter stealth.
Rear 😏
Maybe not. RCS measurements show that the F-35 is much stealthier overall, even the DoD was surprised by that.
Why does anyone use these computerized voices? Literally any *real* voice would be preferable.
theyre kids who dont know what theyre talking about and got no shit
I assume because they can't speak English.
@@Idontbelievethehype2 russian communists
Chinese commies.
@@kendricklamarfan21 youre describing yourself
“it’s not 16, there was 17 difference between them. the F35 lightning II is compatible with Apple Lightning cable to recharge its Lithium-ion stealth battery”
Tsk, oh...you haven't upgraded to the newest iOS yet. Ya, the software kills the battery faster on purpose. You can either pay Apple for a replacement battery for the iplane. Or fork out the cool. 5Billion for the next Gen. I switched to Droid years ago because, Fuck Apple! Fuck them and their under handed tactics.
What’s even more sad is that the Apple Phantom 12 Pro Max ++ 360° Ultra Max A12 Bionic Quad Thrust I-Promise-This-Is-The-Last-Max’s engine isn’t even built in-house by Apple. Apple buys the engine from Lockheed Martin, as well as that Lockheed makes the body structure for the Phantom 12 Pro Max ++ 360° Ultra Max A12 Bionic Quad Thrust I-Promise-This-Is-The-Last-Max.
The Phantom 12 Pro Max ++ 360° Ultra Max A12 Bionic Quad Thrust I-Promise-This-Is-The-Last-Fucking-Max costs $899M per unit, and the Air Force gotta buy the armaments separately... for $139.9M, as the official documents state.
And it doesn’t even have as good manoeuvrability as the F-22A... everythibg else is relatively the same in performance.
Now you tell me... is Apple better than Samsu- I meant Lockheed?
Uchiha409 hui and there is a lightning cord in the cockpit to charge your phone
So yes, AMD and Radeon is better than Nvidea and intel
I love the 35. The philosophy behind that plane just makes so much sense in today’s world.
VERY GOOD! I always wanted a side-by-side comparison. They are now using the 35's in a SWARM pattern! They can see things that nobody else can in the sky.
Videos of the 2 aircraft were often shown while talking about one. This was distracting.
When you and your mate accidentally drop the missile while mounting it to the plane:
I love you mom and dad.
My heart still belongs to the F4 Phantom. But then I am 76 years old.
This is why we don't sell the F-22 Raptor
Many other countries already have stealth technology that's far superior to that of the F-22. So that's not the reason. It's about money.
@@benanders4412 such as?
Can't sell the f22 cause we cannot provide the support needed to keep them flying. The production line is also discontinued for some time now. And no one would pay that price anyway which is where the f35 came in. The idea of f22 export was flirted for a minute but that never came through
Watched video: I know a lot about these jets now!
Looked at comments: oh... nvm
I came straight to the comment section just to see if the video was worth it, so after reading multiple comments I decided not to watch it and watched other videos instead
That F-22 edit in the thumbnail is hilarious.
The weapons bay just hanging on the wings lol
Those are wing Missile pods, look closely
I should ignore (on account of your username) what you said and I hope you are just being sarcastic haha. There's no such thing as "wing missile pod". What you see under the wings is just the weapons bay on the belly being copy-pasted onto under the wings
Yep. Well the edit on the thumbnail is just there to attract viewers, at the cost of accuracy on what the F-22 really looks like. Clickbait thumbnail is all there is
@@ravenslikewritingdesks wow what snark.. Ignored Advice Productions
is correct though. Those are an artists rendition of the disposable enclosed weapons pods, similar to those of the latest proposed super hornet. Although not operational they are/were planned to improve stealth performance with external loads. And no, they are literally not a copy-paste of the weapons bay in the 3d model that was used (2:20), other than the missile models themselves.
But yeah, partial clickbate thumbnail since they're not in use (yet).
the stilted vocals of the TTS aside, you might find it advantageous to *proofread* the copy before sending through TTS.
So we have approximately 140 Billion dollars worth of JUST F-22’s. (195 including the 8 test birds) 700,000,000 X 195. That’s insane. And expensive. And awesome at the same time.
The original goal was to have 700 of them but they proved to be too expensive.
next time you throw strings of letters and/or numbers at the audience (like engine variants) use an editing software to put them on the screen as well. Would make it a lot easier to digest, especially for people whos english is not their native tongue.
Bro. I I was thinking the same thing I Must have rewinding the video when they were talking about engines and weaponry like 10 different times for each section to try to understand what they were saying.! Thanks I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who couldn't understand what the hell they were saying and hates the computer voice. Here's a tip spend the extra hundred bucks And get a person to read it so people can understand it
Those making these vids can barely speak english either. That's why they use a super annoying computerized voice.
just go to wikipedia. the uploader did. so why not you
@@goonigoogoo5868 if the point is to go to another place to read on it then this vid is pointless and might as well not exist. This was something called constructive criticism. Go to a wiki an read on it. It's a rather usefull thing for people that actually want to develop their skills.
especially when the grammar is just wrong. 'gives to ability to supercruise' like what? that may be a typo when writing, but nobody would actually make that mistake when speaking.
F-35 is a multi-combat aircraft for both air superior and strike mission, F-22 is a air to air fighter mainly for air superiority ( it can do ground strike like any model fighter , but thats not what it is built for)
Why are computer voices so annoying to listen to. Getting better with time. But still annoying. I keep expecting to hear beep beep bop
It's better then the indian sounding one that calls me telling me I'm going to jail. Lmao
Yeah soon we won't be able to distinguish between the computer voice and a human.
I know, if you don’t have the talent to narrate coherently, or at least find someone who does, you shouldn’t be making “authoritative” videos.
@@Barefoot433 What do you mean by "authoritative?" Clearly, you've put forth more effort in school than 90% of the dopes your age but would you clarify what you mean by your comment?
@@fredsanford336 The video is attempting to define important differences between two complex machines; when one purports to do that they are attempting to gain recognition as an authority on the subject. When that is the case, I believe they should use a human voice as a signature responsible for what they are saying. If there are errors, which there likely are, it should be an individual discredited, not just a channel. They’re acting like an authority toward teaching subject matter. Does that make sense? And yes, I was a high achiever years ago; I put my sons name on it because he uses my account to watch silly videos. But he’s an A+ GATE student as well, just very young.
"Together they operate in the sixty-five zero zero pound seventy-thousand pound thrust class".
The huge touchscreen control panel in the F35 is a game changer. It gives it a tactical advantage.
as though you have any experience in what you're yapping about, remind us how many hours you've logged in each plane, how many kills you've racked up in arial combat and lastly where you received your degrees in aeronautical design otherwise stop posting garbage as though you're some kind of self imposed expert
@@slowery43 Well said, that's only an assertion that someone with experience in both set-ups can make.
you talk about 1 jet but show the other a lot in this video
Lol
Oh man, I was really looking forward to this..
Avionics System is prophetic for my AS in Business. This brings thought to the navigating of it after my first four semesters landing there at my college graduation where I graduated all eight of my college semesters. Terrill TC!
Too nice video with clear explaining about differentiation between F-22,F35 versions
AIM-9X sidewinder for air to ground attack.😂😂
That's what I thought he said! I didn't want to rewind it, these videos are so bad!!
Lol i heard that... This video is more hilarious than it is informative 😂😂
Perhaps if a plane stands, engine running, on taxi-way...
www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/33797/watch-a-jas-39-gripen-fighter-fire-a-new-ground-attack-version-of-the-sidewinder-missile
@@JDStone20 good info! Thanks
F22 is a masterpiece
@ you and your country is shit
@ the only thing pakistan did was begging to other countries money..your country is shit
@ as i say your country is shit ,beside nobody wants to go there.
@ your country should stand on its own feet and stop begging money from other country..
@ jf17 is old rusty shit
I love the Naval f 14 tomcat, even tho it 40 years old, still one of the fastest around and the moveable wings were just crazy for it's time,
My favorite jet when i was a kid. had a small metal model with moving wings used to play with that hours.
You forgot to mention that both the F-22 and F-35 are also equipped with rotary cannons to supplement their missiles. The F-22 is equipped with a 20 mm M61A2 Vulcan rotary cannon with 480 rounds, while the F-35 is equipped with a 25 mm GAU-22/A 4-barrel rotary cannon with 180 rounds.
I dont think he actually knows what he's talking about
F 14 will always be my all time favourite
I really didn't notice the mechanical voice because I was focused on information. It's a pretty good voice.
"Engines" 00:40
@Military Power The whoosh and swish sound efx work with a snap zoom or wipe, not a blurring merge.
I have seen the F-22 fly at Dobbins AFB in Georgia. And it did some weird shit that i've never seen before
The F22 was too good so our genius generals decided to build an inferior aircraft! F22 is the greatest fighter ever built!
They serve different roles, our military is really ducking good at war and the air superiority of the f22 allowed us to design a weapon that doesn’t necessarily need to be dominant in air to air combat. The f 35 is meant to be a joint strike air to ground strike fighter for the navy air force and marines while the f 22 is meant to be an air superiority fighter for the Air Force. They are different weapons for different needs.
Sexiest as well
Whats the point of having a super dog fighter when you can design a plane that can take out other planes without going in a dog fight ?
@@oosamaaaa i do agree f22 is hella sexy
Very indepth and comprehensive comparison. Summing up, F35 is a weaker version of the F22 for export purpose. F35 is a mult-purpose aircraft and F22 is specialized for air to air combat.
Hey, the last pure air superiority fighter the US created, the F-15, currently has a kill record of 173-0 and the 22 eats 15s for breakfast. If that's any indication of what we can look forward to in terms of air dominance I'm all in. Wipe out the enemy's jets and then escort the 35s as they tear up ground assets. Then the A-10s can provide that invaluable close air support role that it was purpose built for unchecked.
My 120 college credits to the second power that concludes my bachelor degree's is not only prophetic for the F 22 Raptors double engine but also prophetic for it's joystick. The 120 pertaining to the joysticks up and down of 20°. Terrill TC!
F-22 is my favorite plaane ever .
The cost of these aircraft is due to Congress requiring that Manufacturing be shared with dozens of companies which increased cost .
No, it was what reduced the cost and made the aircraft this good. A product completely built by one company will be extremely expensive because they are now kind of a monopoly in the product thus charging high but when it's shared, companies gotta give reasonable price in order to win the contract. The aircraft is this good cause it was built by different companies with different expertise in their department. Sure, one company can build a fighter and still make it good but it will take a lot of luck or maybe too much upgrades.
@@yestermonth I am not an Air Force guy but isn't getting other countries involved in production reducing costs?
The issue with the F35 on costs has to do with a perverse incentive to get manufacturing in as many congressional districts as possible. We have always relied on companies developing certain components they are experts at, but this was not the case with the F35. The supply chain was needlessly expanded.
This vid sounds like siri explaining me jet facts off of Wikipedia
I've seen the F22 up close. It's sick...
Old school: Better in EVERY way
Radar, Max Ammo capacity, and Cost.
... F-35 has a larger payload, a newer RADAR with better targeting range, and is way more expensive. You hit the wrong points. F-22 has a better engine system for a better top speed, better weapon selection, exclusivity to the US, and a bigger frame with a wider D-wing for better maneuverability. F-35 is a multi-role aircraft with variants and interchangeable parts to operate as a conventional, VSTOL, or Aircraft Carrier based aircraft with emphasis on air-to-air, air-to-ground, electronic warfare, and early warning. F-22 is a dogfighting machine, and while it does have air-to-ground capabilities, the largest bomb it can carry is 1000 lbs. where the F-35 can carry up to 5000 lbs. bombs. The F-22 excels in the fact that it can carry 14 AIM-120 missiles, which makes it the perfect air-to-air intercept machine.
@@ZelphrinsGaming
F-35A costs only about half as much as the F-22 though. Its mission availability rate is better as well due to more durable stealth coating on the F-35.
Well obviously. It was designed to fix all the problems with the F-22, over priced and totally exclusive.
Being a globally developed and built machine makes its cost effectiveness far greater.
It's like saying "what's better, a depleted uranium tipped tungsten core .50 BMG round or 50 regular ones"
F-22 has range advantage too.
@Erich Von Manstein What are you trying to say? The F22 sucks at close range air to air combat?
3:05 the F-22 has four hardpoints on the wings that can each carry 2270 kg, meaning it too can use additional armaments for non-stealth missions.
They can only carry external fuel tanks. None of them are wired for weapons.
@@dumdumbinks274 what? That literally makes no sense and is not true at all. Idk where you guys get this stuff
@@jarebare555 How does it not make sense? They are not wired, only plumbed. An F-22 cannot guide any weapons launched from those pylons because there is no communication between the mission computer and the weapon.
@@dumdumbinks274 that's not true though, they have 4 hard points that can each carry about 5000 lbs of weapons.
@@jarebare555 It is true. F-22s do not carry weapons externally and only use those hardpoints to carry external fuel tanks. The pylons are rated for 5000lbs because that is how heavy the fuel tanks are. There were tests of potential external weapons racks, but they were never funded.
Looking forward to seeing the NEXT generation Fighter aircraft!!👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
*Useful and informative, giving viewers a lot to think about*
The f-22 looks newer and more futuristic even though its older than the f-35
It's more expensive
A document was accidentally disclosed to a private source that there were 242 F22’s in operation as of 2019 , quite a few more than claimed numbers of 120-150.
Basically the F-22 can either be equipped in air to air or air to ground rolls while the F-35 can be equipped air to air and air to ground roll simultaneously
Nice Video
The ads man, come on lol
@3:32 “Two AIM-9x missiles for air-to-ground combat.” Yeah. So *that* is new. 🙄🤦♂️
oooof a robot reading to some ones incorect facts
I just get up and go to work everyday.
I support the rich, the poor, and the military budget. Since I am not part of a special interest group, I just get up and go to work every day
The F 22 Raptor aid over all stealth profile wow!! Terrill TC!
Thanks. No bs just broke it down easily.
it's 17 minutes long
Lmao. What's your point?!!!!
really, ads every minute?
Thank you for saying "Lightning II" because so many ppl say "Lightning" and I'm like "what about the P-38 :("
The US sells allot of F35's all over the world. But NOBODY is allowed to buy the F22 Raptor. I think that pretty much sums it up. For me the F22 is the ultimate.
If you apply life cycle costs to anything this can be misleading. Still a good vid brother.
F22 is a sexier aircraft.
It's the sexiest aircraft in the history of aircraft
@@farzana6676 no that prize goes to the su-34
@@notmyrealname5473 Lol, or Su 27, or Su 30, or Su 35. They all look like the same jet.
But nah, the Raptor looks like something from the future.
I’m gonna have to insert the SR-71 and A-12 as contenders here
they're both ugly as sin.
Love your videos thank you but if you ever go old school would love to see F-4u Coursai and japanese zero again thank you for everything
I just have this feeling that it's not as incredible in a large scale scenario, and that much like nukes, the idea of it is used as a deterrent except with less to back it up.
F22 is still the greatest air superiority fighter of all time and will continue to be so for decades. Just way too expensive, and banned from foreign sales is what killed it. F35 program is very expensive, but foreign sales help offset it.
It isn’t a good idea to give our most superior plane away but I guess you’re right. I mean why do we need 200 planes that are literally never going to get shot down and even if 5 at the most would get shot down.
@@Man0War with modern air to air missiles, AWACS, and satellites, the F35 can do anything the F22 can do just as well. F22 is overkill, and it's avionics are aging fast.
@@Starlesslemon not exactly.
The F22 has capabilities that are classified and the pilots aren't allowed to show in training exercises. The problem with not being allowed to use the aircraft to it's full potential is that the pilots will develop bad habits.
one can be taken down by a bird to the engine intake, the other has 2 engines and therefore could survive such an instance.
josh denton Hello fellow Denton! If a bird incident were to occur, it would likely be caused by a critical failure of their radar and threat detection systems.
@@Rwdphotos lols
Never had a problem on the 16
F22 and F35 will save the world for sure
The passive ability to share radar information to other fighters in your formation is probably the best argument for taking the f35 over the f22.
You know that most country's in world use metric Right? using both would have been nice.
Sorry to hear that. Too bad those country's aren't the ones developing the fighters.
@@DoctaFlood yes they are .what are you blind?sukoi ,mig, Saab ........
They are developing the aircraft in which the video is about is his point. No Country should base what they do on what other Countries do unless it benefits that specific Country. In other words, do you and worry about yo self! US seems to be okay using the system it uses. Having said all that, I couldn't care less what we use👍
@@chriswilliams2652 I love our system in the United States like you
The F35 has never impressed me. The F22 is way superior as a fighter. I’ll take a F15 or F18 over a F35. The F16 is still a awesome plane and hard to replace. The F22 is more expensive but you get what you pay for.
The F35 is what happens when you try to stuff a bunch of novel features into a plane that is supposed to do everything for everyone and for cheap (relative to the f22). You end up pleasing nobody and doing nothing exceptionally well. They also ended up making 3 different planes anyways, so this joint strike fighter was a conceptual failure from the beginning. If they were actually interested in building a cheap strike fighter, they should've followed a 5th generation version of the F16 model of development i.e. for shared parts and cheaper maintenance instead of a gluten of varied novel technology that may not even be practical for deployment at this point. If they wanted an advanced stealth fighter for each service branch, they should've developed three entirely different planes for 3 entirely different roles.
As an engineer, you have to make concrete decisions about which processes you wish to maximize over others. The success of the F15, F16, F18, and A10 were all due to the fact that the planes were well engineered for their respective roles. Taking the A10 as an example, it's redundancy and durable build make it an ideal ground strike aircraft. Another feature is that it's engines are easily fixable with parts that are readily available due to their use in commercial turbofan engines. The engineers sacrificed speed, maneuverability, and technological advances; for a plane that was legendary for it's durability and cheap cost.
Biggest difference is the F-22 is a good combat rated jet, the F-35 is not.
The F-35 is currently the best strike fighter available and has been used in combat for the last 2 years.
f22 is the best I even got to fly one in 2016
Very well done video. Informative and captivating.
The problem with these two planes is they're irreplaceable due to their massive cost, which would become a problem in a long war of attrition as replacing them would be way too expensive.
The F-35 is cheaper to build than a F-15
*At $78 million the fifth-generation F-35A's unit cost compares favorably to the latest non-stealth 4.5-generation Western fighter.
*The F-15EX costs $87.7 million per aircraft, and can fly for up to 20,000 hours at a cost of $29,000 per hour.
@@Tgodson69 12 - 32 million would be more practical and build a shitload then ramp up recruiting, going by the way things are we could always overwhelm their air force. I'm sure Putin would have kittens
@@williambuchanan77 The Military already has 1400 F-35s ordered to be filled by 2024
Good point, actually. Hopefully we’ll never be in another war of attrition. Or another war period. See also B1B.
@@davidargon6623 There's something worth raising a glass to! Hopefully little Puta doesn't cause any more of a ruckus than he already is.
We have F-35s here in Italy but I wish we had F-22s too 😢💔
If you're going to talk about different aspects of the machines, you need to have video that meshes with the topic. What we have here is random video of the two fighters flying around while the synthesized voice narrates about a completely different topic.
I’ve always thought that the YF23 was a superior air frame. Unfortunate the manufacturer failed to get it weapons ready at the time of the competition.
A lot of airplanes are great on paper. If a manufacturer can not get a prototype plane ready on time, it is a big leap of faith to think that they can design a production version and produce the real thing in large quantities
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Well f22 has android system and f35 has microsoft which means while f35 is packed with counter strike, the f22 has mobile legend
This video wouldve been much more organic if you spoke instead of using a computerized voice. Still a good video, just giving tips to make it more palatable for people
the f22 is just beautiful beautiful machine. could look at it all day.
Needs a cloaking device bro!
No Turkey involved now .
The dictator really screwed up. Turkey can fly their 5th gen plywood model instead.
It took a while before I realized it was an electronic voice. It's getting better and better these days. I don't hate it as long as it sounds good. Anyways, great video.
I worked Aerospace for 20 yrs and I worked on the slit tape for the Rapture it was a fun project even met a f22 pilot it was more exciting than meeting kobe Bryant I said to him..Rapture or Nonthing..
Finland does not operate f-35, It operates F-18.
F18 is for carrier based operations. Finland does not even have a carrier?!?
@@farzana6676 actually Finnish air force uses the F/A-18C model, and has veen doing it for a long time, untill the new aircraft has been chosen.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force
@@jpelmola I wonder why they've chosen F18 above F16 for a conventional fighter aircraft.
the difference is that ONE IS AIR TO AIR AND 1 IS AIR TO GROUND
And the real truth is as soon as on is lost to ground fire no more will be used! More cost effective to use an A10 for ground support!
The A-10 is air to ground. The F-35 is not much more than a flying computer.
Great video. One little correction is, and all I can say is that your top speed estimate and a few other details of the F22 are simply wrong, as not even close.
The F14 will always be my favorite jet, the F 15 its still out there and they're pretty bad ass, not to mention the top secret Jets we don't know about, kind of like how we bombed Panama and 77 with the stealth bomber ,and they didn't tell about the stealth bomber till 1991 or 1992, and all those drones that have now, but the F-22 is badass jet
@RC213V Well it was a modernized '1960's missile from the late eighties with equally capable radar against an antiquated aircraft that lacked any form of countermeasures save for being low observable...
@RC213V Oh it certainly was impressive on the end of the Serbians. But the USAF made several mistakes, and never claimed the _F-117A_ was untouchable.
I think those aircraft (the _F-35_ and _F-22A)_ are fairly capable against those systems.
There is no video of such regarding the _F-22A_ and _Su-35._ The claim came from a Russian civilian news organization. They asked a Russian Air Force spokesperson, but asked in the form of a shotgun of multiple questions at once where he then he replied a simple "yes."
Try fixing the F-144 or F-111...
Beast Mode= Loss of Stealth
Beast mode only applies once air dominance as been met.
Michael Stidham
After the first few hours, or the first few days, stealth isn't necessary.
@@RedRider1600 That's a big negative. There is no way of knowing how long, and when stealth will be necessary. It will largely depend on who you are fighting. If you were to fight Russia, or China, it would likely be needed for much longer.
Michael Stidham
I doubt it would be longer than a week.
Day 1: Destroy radar sites, communications and command and control, and any aircraft that oppose.
Day 2: Finish off survivors from day 1.
Day 3: Finish off survivors from day 2.
Day 4: Bomb tactical and strategic targets.
@@RedRider1600 It would likely take months to even years. If we ever fought a conventional war with someone like Russia, stealth would be paramount to the F-35's survival since almost all Russian fighters are much more maneuverable than the F-35, and are equipped with very long range missiles. Beast Mode may also allow Russian SAMS to detect, and track the F-35, which would make it a sitting duck. It would definitely take months, if not years to take most of them out. You would never be able to take them all out, since some are underground. Stealth would once again be the key factor to it's survival. If Beast Mode did result in a large enough radar signature to allow it to be detected & tracked (it most likely would) then you wise wells to send an F-15 instead because it can carry twice the payload, and would have a better chance at escaping the SAM (unless F-35 ditches all external payload to regain stealth) considering it is about twice as fast, and can climb about twice as high (F-15 has a recorded test flight of (102,000 feet in 1979, newer F-15s can likely beat that due to an even higher thrust to weight ratio).
You sound like youre poorly reading specs and have no clue what it means
Kind of like a...... Computer generated voice?
Because this is a Russian owned channel. They are spreading this shit to make you think that war is still only fought conventionally so that we ignore their constant cyber-threat.
Looks like a frigging spaceship. I love it ! ❤️
For that kind of price tag per plane, I hope they are effective for a long time.
Man, you can't compare a C.A.S plane with an A.S plane
Ya. The first one you touched on has a C in it. Clearly the second one doesn't. There is no comparison...
@@christopherboucher2887 C.A.S means close air support and A.S means air superiority. That's the difference
@@koskchris5288 lol. I figured it would be something along those lines.. Cheers
@@christopherboucher2887 a real scramble with those words, cheers my friend
I just woke up and have nothing witty or sarcastic to add here. My name is Christopher (Chris) and that's all I got....
The Cost of f - 35 is much Cheap than F - 22 Raptor
And yet everyone is still bitching abiut its expensive
Mukita12 because the F35 project has exceeded almost 2 billion and only about 60 airframes have been produced.
F22 is a thing of beauty. F 35 looks like a toilet paper roll with wings
Scambag u are
No wonder guys. This is the greatest legacy that you have to your children.