Don't You Dare Pass Me! | BMW F900XR vs. Honda CB1000R

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2020
  • This video is about rider behavior when being passed, that is all. It is not about him or me, nor is it about our skill level. This is just to show that if you do this, this is what you look like to others and please stop this and be nice and let others pass, even when they are on lesser-powered bikes.
    So any rude/inappropriate comments left about either one of us will be removed.
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  • @SsiolisP
    @SsiolisP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I met the "Blocker", he was sweaty and exhausted, we spoke. He told me fascinating stories of how other bikers repeatedly tried to pass him. "I held my line" he proclaimed while continually wiping the sweat off his forehead. "Did you see all the marvelous spring flowers?" I asked. "What flowers?" he replied.

  • @AlienApe.
    @AlienApe. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    honestly, i think he was just a very new/poor rider. Don't think it was anything personal. Yes, he should know better, but hopefully he'll quickly learn that it is ok to be passed!

    • @larsw.3240
      @larsw.3240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He probably wasn't even really aware of what was going on behind him. New riders tend not to pay enough attention to their surroundings.

    • @johnsumser9743
      @johnsumser9743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s what it looked like to me, too.

    • @andrewd7586
      @andrewd7586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That guy was completely out of his depth on that bike & totally unaware. Simple.

    • @stevesinclair640
      @stevesinclair640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He knew what he was doing, why else did he suddenly start speeding up. His friends told him that a CBR makes him a badass and badasses don’t get passed by lesser bikes. Dick.

    • @samsara3694
      @samsara3694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts are the same, that this appeared to an inexperienced rider who simply looked out of his depth but who was guilty of not being honest about that - he was probably speeding up out of wanting to convince you of his ability, more than blocking you. That said, lots of nuances that you pick up in 'real-time' that might tell you differently. Either way, "Nothing to Prove" should be the first rule of motorcycling.

  • @Bannister99
    @Bannister99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You timed your overtake to perfection.

  • @mickshere9642
    @mickshere9642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You did him a favour by passing him, he was outside his comfort zone and didnt have the self confidence to say come by and just carry on with his own journey

  • @dgomes265
    @dgomes265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Think he had no idea you were behind him. He was clenching the bars and just focused on keeping up with your friend and agree was over his head and skill level. Great post, Nice roads near you and great to see people riding again. Mine is still parked (Toronto, Canada)

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea, this could very well be true that he had no idea I was behind him. And that is the sad part, since the two of us were behind him for a few minutes before the road got curvy.
      Ride safe, when you can again,
      Scott

  • @jorgemtds
    @jorgemtds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That rider was a total newbie. Maybe he didn't even thought about it. He just wanted to have some fun riding a little fast with you guys.
    Rookie mistakes...

  • @Fernando90054
    @Fernando90054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good advise! Thanks for that, because there are times, moments where we tend to forget this basic fundamentals of enjoyment.

  • @AF-O6
    @AF-O6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I come across idiots, 4 wheels or two, in my older years I just pull over and take a break. It’s obvious this fellow doesn’t know how to ride. You look very smooth, by the way, and I’m loving your channel.

  • @komalley35
    @komalley35 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ride a Versys 650, not tons if power so timing is important in passing. I try hard to be chill. Give lots of room, friendly wave. A lot of riders still take being passed personally especially HD riders it seems.

  • @MrJohnnynapalm7
    @MrJohnnynapalm7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of learning points there - thanks for sharing, Scott 👍

  • @hawkwood6405
    @hawkwood6405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nothing to Prove, the name of your TH-cam channel says it all Scott.
    I'd agree that he is likely a new rider whose ego got in the ways of his safety, and yours. Been there done that, it is so easy to get carried away out there over stupid little things. Common sense must prevail. Hopefully he survives long enough to learn from his mistakes. No one wants to see a fellow enthusiast injured or killed.

  • @chabaneouali1955
    @chabaneouali1955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Insightful thank you. Keeping calm is the key and not taking unnecessary risks

  • @JeffHenshaw
    @JeffHenshaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Safety reminders are always appreciated. Thanks for the channel.

  • @craigfavorito9050
    @craigfavorito9050 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Class act! - Thanks for posting a "good manners" road skills...There needs to be more!

  • @johnambro7181
    @johnambro7181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a guy riding alone who doesn't understand yet it finally dawned on him, he was the turtle not the hare. Great vid, ride safe ride happy.

  • @jeffiles7953
    @jeffiles7953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that he got excited as he was still learning his craft. I also think your overtake was perfectly acceptable as you could just see enough road around the bend.

  • @pafo46
    @pafo46 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best lesson all riders need to learn before riding or driving. Nothing to prove to nobody is all about. Most of the time the ego is beyond riders skill and bad things happen. I found your channel randomly(Bmw f900xr search)😎, i subscribed and i love it. I like how calm you are.

  • @wiz5x905
    @wiz5x905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the views of the beautiful countryside. I agree that it was a skill level - new rider based on the things you pointed out. It looked liked a great day to ride!

  • @thejohnnerparty
    @thejohnnerparty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A big thumbs up on this video! I totally agree with you. This idea also applies to cars on the FWY (and perhaps other situations). Thanks a bunch for this one. ;-)

  • @RE650NZGraeme
    @RE650NZGraeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the heads up and the commentary. Yes a new rider stiff in the saddle, a powerful bike - you can't get by me... attitude. His rear tyre looked a little square too - a lot of upright straight riding and few corners ... Well done, great patience and a very instructional video, thanks.

  • @trekkydelirium-vroom5821
    @trekkydelirium-vroom5821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss so much to do those kind of rides with a friend on twisty roads; were still in lock down here in Montreal & for now we can only ride alone close to where we live & it got to be to go to essential jobs, to the pharmacy or to the grocery. Stay safe, take care, keep faith...

  • @nicolasroy273
    @nicolasroy273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey very nice video Scott!
    Good patient riding!
    I agree the CB guy does'nt look very confident out there... you safely did the right move. Stay safe buddy! 🤟🏻

  • @dariot707
    @dariot707 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid advice and good temperament, like a professional ;)

  • @oldmanvatne2911
    @oldmanvatne2911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I have a mix of riders out on a range in a class I remind them, ride your own ride. All types of riders are out there, what matters most is what type of rider you are.

  • @thesmithsteron2wheels362
    @thesmithsteron2wheels362 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    new subscriber and a new rider, used to find when riding with a group my skill level was well below most of the group, trying to keep up caused anxiety , approaching corners too fast, wrong positioning etc, did i really have some think to prove, i ride as a lone biker these days, enjoy biking again, took a bike safe course with the police, which gave me a taster to advanced riding, i ride to my sill level and enjoy every second, cheers for sharing

  • @ahadfakhar1408
    @ahadfakhar1408 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing lesson... Thank you... And awesome video

  • @stephenchapman8344
    @stephenchapman8344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great advice Scott. To quote a phrase , ‘ a good man knows his limitations! ‘ Have seen this a few times when guys feel under pressure to keep up with a more skilled rider. Nothing to prove buddy. Stay safe and enjoy the new bike.👍

  • @Robtorre9
    @Robtorre9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The video summarize the meaning and importance of the project "NothingToProve". Very well expressed, is always a pleasure to watch your video Sir, thanks and best greetings from Italy! 👍😃😎

  • @mikegodfrey2221
    @mikegodfrey2221 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Sentiments -it would be good just to see you ride in that countryside -it looks beautiful.

  • @jvl4832
    @jvl4832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ˋNothing to Prové is the best riding Mantra . Everytime something annoys me
    or makes me aggressive, i think of this and the family back home. Regarding the ˋblocker´, if he didn’t see you it’s poor riding technique and if he did see you and didn’t let you by, it’s even worse. Two thumbs down for the blocker! I tend not to ride fast and always let fellow motorcyclist by. Also, with regards to this theme, i have friends who can ride faster and when i ride with them, i have the feeling ìm chasing them. Also stressful. That is why i prefer mostly to ride alone. Two thumbs up for Scott... love your videos!!

  • @furstl
    @furstl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a new biker and ironically I ride a CB1000R (learned on a CB650R). I can handle it very well, but of course I'm not yet as fast as some other riders out there. Sometimes I'm in the same situation of riding in front of faster approaching bikes/cars (most of all locals who know the roads very well!). When the road's free I just give them a hand signal showing that they can overtake me. They usually greet by sticking out their right foot when overtaking. (not the car drivers!)
    Some of them will stay behind you for a while just to check your riding abilities and maybe hoping for a little race, especially when you're on a powerful bike. I think this is the moment when many slower riders don't manage to shut their ego off. They start riding way out of their comfort zone just to impress the other riders/drivers behind them. I think this is what happened in the video.
    Since you are driving in Germany, the guy in the video must at least be 24 years old or - if younger - have been riding for two years (Class A2) to get the driving licence that is needed to ride a CB1000R (Class A). Therefore he should have some riding/traffic experience. I think he just focused on both of you too much and got nervous, which made him screw up his lines, breaking and accelerating.
    Instead of just crossing the line for a second or two, you could just have indicated (I also heard the term "blinker" / "to blink", which is actually the german noun/verb for indicator/indicating) to show him that you want to overtake and kept a little more distance, which may had been a more de-escalating move - just for the safety of all of you in this very situation - no offense!
    Even if it feels unfair and you did nothing wrong, but especially as a biker you sometimes have to hold back a little for you own safety and the safety of others.
    For me this is a very nice side effect of riding and a good mental training, but of course it's not always that easy...
    Thank you for your videos, I enjoy your calm way of presenting!
    Be safe and always ride your own ride!

  • @ShineBright__
    @ShineBright__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review sa always but i still prefer the boxer !! What do you do in Germany ?

  • @jamespaologarcia458
    @jamespaologarcia458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You meet the nicest people on a Honda -- but you can also meet some of the worst.

  • @davidfennessey2727
    @davidfennessey2727 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have cb 1000r but only returned to riding after 28 years last year I’m 53 here in London and always watch for faster guys coming from behind just put your leg out to show you have seen them and they can pass safely and everyone rides at there comfort level no pressure on anyone safe riding Scott

  • @reananam3717
    @reananam3717 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate these videos, NTP, includinc your track day and wife-learning-to-ride videos! They're all educational, and it's done with your calm enjoyable to hear voice, and mature honest manner. Such a pleasure! I'd love to see more of this sort of thing.
    If you don't mind, would you list out your gear? My wife thinks you're sexy and she wants me to find those pants, but I can't seem to locate them! Much appreciated!
    I can tell it's the Rukka gore-tex jacket, so you are putting safety high on your list, but I'm curious about your jean, helmet, and boot choices as well!
    It'd also be great to get a little 'Nothing No Prove' license plate bracket. Can only help if I'm stopped, and would let me show my appreciation for your work.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🥰 Thank you for the nice compliments.
      Gear, yes, Rukka Jacket, very good for all weather conditions and safety. Pants - depends on the weather, cold = Rukka Thermo pants, warmer = Trilobite Agnox jeans and really warm Trilobite Parado jeans. Helmet = Schubert R2 & rarely S2. Boots = AlpineStars for winter and TCX F1 style shoes for spring, summer & fall.
      I don't have any merchandise yet, perhaps in a year or two, I need to grow my channel more before that happens but thank you for asking.
      Thank you again for the nice words of encouragement and for people like you that I do this channel.
      Take care & ride safe,
      Scott

  • @rds4629
    @rds4629 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a new rider, I don't mind getting passed... but I am cognizant of creating a backup if there are a bunch of bikes or cars behind me so I'll turn off a side-road when I can. If I feel I'm being hounded on my tail, I may speed up a bit like this guy did, but I'd rather he go around me. Interesting analysis of the turns/braking.

  • @dogshmog
    @dogshmog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was behind 2 guys on the 1 up by Bodega Bay last year, while riding my s1000r. These guys were riding a first gen R1 and a Ducati 919 in jeans and loafers. Choppy stabbing at the brakes through corners, clearly not knowing what they’re doing. I am directly behind them for miles, and instead of letting me pass, I’m getting brake checks and hand signals of get off my ass. Finally got an open and safe stretch of road to let the s1k sing. I agree... there’s absolutely no excuse for this behavior. If someone is clearly ready to pass or exceeds your riding ability, just let them by. Nothing to prove indeed!

  • @stevesanelli90
    @stevesanelli90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Scott, expertly explained & it just shows the CBR rider isn’t a competent rider. Because other riders that have powerful bikes, doesn’t make them a competent rider so they think they can go faster along the straights, just not around corners. Well done for proving by showing this.👌🥇

  • @baconbaconbobacon
    @baconbaconbobacon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In mexico when on a single lane, usually mountain road if there is a driver thats slow infront, they will pull a little to the right to let faster cars pass, also slow cars/semis that are in front will put their left turn signal to indicate when the oncoming road is clear letting faster cars pass.

  • @brianglendenning1632
    @brianglendenning1632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, it is frustrating. When I realise I am behind someone who has ego/pride pushing a pace that exceeds their ability, I lay right off, and often they pull back their pace, and time my pass as a quick move.

  • @davidtasker3057
    @davidtasker3057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand why people act like that sometimes. We were all new riders at some point. I remember the week after I passed my test I picked up my first bike. I was nervous. It was my first ride without an instructor and I was holding on way too tight and I was on unfamiliar roads. A sports bike rider came speeding up behind me, really close. As soon as it was safe to do so I indicated in and waved him by. It made me feel better as I wasn't under pressure. So why make yourself feel uncomfortable by holding someone else up? Just let them past. Likewise now I have more experience I will give new / nervous riders space and time so they don't go too fast for their skill level and have an accident. I would hate it if another biker got hurt because I was putting pressure on them. We're all on two wheels to have fun. So let's make sure we do have fun. Love your attitude to riding, it's spot on. And thank-you for all your videos on the F900XR. They really helped me make the decision to buy one.

  • @picrr529
    @picrr529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Often newer or lessor-skilled riders will feel that they are holding up others and the only place they can try to speed up and not do that is in the straights. As a result, you get what you see here. That MIGHT have been what happened as I cannot get inside the head of the CBR rider. Hopefully, it was that and not the other rider being a jerk. Eventually, they often give this up, especially in the twisties, and then fall back quickly as was shown.
    Btw, I am a riding instructor and license tester, and often see these habits come to the surface once they graduate into more advanced courses. I like the way you spoke about the incident - without the attitude that happens a lot on social media. Well done. Hope you're enjoying the new XR.
    Ride safe, ride often.

  • @bc67
    @bc67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd guess new rider. He may have interpreted your moves to the left as an indication that he needed to ride faster. If he had something to prove he would have shown more aggression in trying to block you. Just my $0.02.

  • @larryvanputten4048
    @larryvanputten4048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He (the cbr) rode like he had something to prove ;-)

  • @ross5506
    @ross5506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should of pull next to him hit the kill switch 😂 He was total squid. 🇨🇦

  • @progste
    @progste 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As some others have said I also think he was just trying to keep up with your friend since he didn't seem to be looking back at you.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is just FYI, not trying to start a discussion with you or anything like that.
      I saw his visor in his mirror when he crossed from the right tire track into the left tire track. And then his erratic behavior really increased...meaning he was pissed that I wanted to pass him. So the gopro does not pick up every thing that the human eye does in real time. So try not to come to a quick judgement based on one camera lens.
      I saw this playing out in real time with two good human eyes, you only see with one eye and that camera eye is less than half the resolution of the human eye. :)
      I could have acted way different and just cut him off at the next corner entrance and let him deal with it (and probably would have crashed) but I was kind and nice and waited for a nice long sweeper to pass.

    • @progste
      @progste 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NothingToProve In that case I believe you, there are this kind of people on the road too.

  • @bizzmotovlogs6
    @bizzmotovlogs6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    firstly i have to agree,if he was a new rider then he should have simply pulled to the right and waved you guys past...no issues.Secondly....oh my word i was loving that road,nice long curving bends one after the other,just sublime...ride safe dude,bizz

  • @geecee4746
    @geecee4746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video 😍😍

  • @hansjoerg348
    @hansjoerg348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super gemachte Videos. Du scheinst ein besonderer Freund der F900XR zu sein 🤗

  • @TheGtman523
    @TheGtman523 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which road is this?

  • @NFL2337
    @NFL2337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some riders are so inexperienced that they don't even realize they have people behind them, taking how much he was struggling to corner his last toughts were to look in the rearview mirror lol

  • @jgk9820
    @jgk9820 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your comments can very easily apply to automobile drivers as well!

  • @sinishasekulich1979
    @sinishasekulich1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice driving Scott !! Very good drive…
    People don’t realise the catch nothing to prove …

  • @Dunwelll
    @Dunwelll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there any aftermarket exhaust options for the F900XR yet? Will you be modifying yours at all?

    • @gpzfan5272
      @gpzfan5272 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ZeeTwentyFour yes there are quite a few already available to order

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just got it! Give me some time...LOL! 😁

    • @Dunwelll
      @Dunwelll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NothingToProve Awesome! Cant wait.

  • @socalpipedude
    @socalpipedude 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I see this all the time.

  • @brianglendenning1632
    @brianglendenning1632 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to tell if it was inexperience or ego, but not uncommon. Most rides, and some drives, I come up on a slower rider or motorist and they do similar to what your vid depicts. I do not want to race just want to continue on at the pace that resulted in me catching the person. Almost without exception the other vehicle will pick up 15-30kph, but after I pass they drop back to their previous speed. Perhaps they are fearful of being overtaken, or it is ego? Most time I think it is the former, because often as I pass I see a person gripping the bar or wheel tightly.

  • @nemesisabaddon5628
    @nemesisabaddon5628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And on that moment, you might have thought : "I should have kept my 1290 Superduke !!!! …" VVV

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      actually that thought did cross my mind in those moments!

  • @MAK9246
    @MAK9246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't get this. I just have a 125 at moment but I love pulling over to let other bikers past as I get to have a look at their bikes and it's the courteous thing to do.

  • @andrewd7586
    @andrewd7586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have riders like this in Australia. Thankfully very few. But we call em dickheads! Guys riding bikes they’re completely incapable of riding! Unfortunately about 10 years ago a friend of a friend bought a road bike after riding dirt bikes most of his life. His best mate said to him that this machine was completely different to what he was used to. He didn’t listen. Two hours into our annual pilgrimage to Phillip Island, while riding through high country, our mate lost control, hit a tree & died in front of us. That had a major major impact on us as you would expect. That hit home. Some time later another good mate of mine went from a Trumpy 675 to a Honda VTR1000. He just could not ride let alone something that powerful! Honestly he was an unknown quantity to ride with. I told him just to get off bikes full stop! His wife in the end said he had to sell it. He did. On occasion a newbie comes into our ride group of 4-6. If he does stupid things like you’ve shown Scott, he is never invited back. It’s just too damn dangerous. More than likely he’ll cause the accident! Sometimes logic is lost between brain & throttle!

  • @pistolpete6321
    @pistolpete6321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great points, excellent pass on your part, totally agree he was blocking for some reason.

  • @danielwardley4185
    @danielwardley4185 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like a great day!, you guys pick good lines, in contrast to The Blocker! I don't know why ego takes over with some guys, but you have to make a decision to either get past before either of you make a mistake, or what i do sometimes is just back off and pull over, especially when you get stuck behind a car on your favorite road. a relaxing ride is one where you are in control, and as you say, Have Nothing To Prove . .Watching the footage, you passed in a good spot but perhaps that road is different in reality.

  • @markhyoutube
    @markhyoutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, nice honest share! He was definitely a newbie, as others hint, he probably had no idea you were there, or was looking at you, the faster rider, too often in his mirror and as a result, braked through corners. I'd have done the same as you did.

  • @francis105G
    @francis105G 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Living in the Southeast Asia, I find some 150cc scooters trying to impress me by passing me and my Tiger. I could care less as I have Nothing to Prove either. (Love Your Channel).
    Usually I am enjoying the easy riding or looking for something. Furthermore, I know a small scooter has nothing on my Tiger 800 and I could pass them easily anytime i needed to.

  • @veljkovic92
    @veljkovic92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not only about skill level but about the way how you feel at the particular moment on the bike or just of the way you ride. I like to ride to enjoy the ride and sometimes see people who go over speed limit and in my opinion faster than they can brake at the particular road. Sometimes they rush cause they go home from work or late to somewhere. I'm not doing that, I'm riding to enjoy... So I let them pass.

  • @adamvanlewen7712
    @adamvanlewen7712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard brake straight up - utter panic setting in. 😂

  • @dukeviper8385
    @dukeviper8385 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello good sir I have a question is f900xr or r has plastic tank cover? Thanks

  • @The333
    @The333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know this is not the right attitude, but as a relatively new rider (2 years), I sometimes get annoyed by more experienced, arrogant riders who come up on you super fast, and then weave around you - as if you are "in their way" - I get it, you guys are out on a "spirited" ride etc. but I still find it to be a very annoying, distracting and potentially dangerous practice - particularly if I am going safely above the speed limit already (which I usually am).
    When I am out and I see a slower rider up in the distance, generally I will reduce speed and keep a safe distance from them. I won't ride up their ass (immediately agitating them, distracting them and putting them on the defensive), instead I will hang back a bit, wait for a nice clean passing straight, giddy up on he throttle and then just easily overtake them before they can even really think about it or be annoyed by it - I feel this approach prevents these types of rider "duels" from happening.
    Alternatively if I am the "slow guy" - IE the guy who is being overtaken (and this is probably NOT a good attitude, I admit - but I am a bit feisty and it is how I am) - in cases where someone rides my up ass like this, I will definitely slow, go over to the right a bit and allow them to pass (as I agree with you is the proper thing to do out on the road) - BUT- once you overtake me - yeah, now I am going to hang on YOUR ass for the remainder of your ride so you can now feel how annoying it is to be distracted and constantly checking your mirrors etc, riding faster than you want to be , etc. If you are skilled enough to pull away from me cleanly and leave me in the dust - bravo to you - but I find that in most cases you really aren't and won't be able to. Instead you will now get to be annoyed and distracted on YOUR ride like you caused me to be. Sorry - use better passing etiquette next time - that is how I see it. On a more positive note, I have also found that some experienced riders will welcome another bike hanging with them - which is cool too. Either way, if you treat me like furniture, I am probably going to hang right with you once you pass me - just how I am.
    I know this is being sort of a "jerk" on my part but I also think that when spirited, experienced riders use the "up-your-ass-passing-approach" instead of slowly steadily gaining, then overtaking, it's also kinda "jerky" - I equate it to experienced golfers who tee off while you are still on the fairway (as opposed to asking to play through) and you see their balls drop and roll by your feet while you are trying to focus on your approach shot - it's aggressive, arrogant and annoying and I don't react well to it.
    Just my two cents. Enjoy your channel!

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Umm...we were doing the speed limit when approaching him. and as you can see in the video, my friend in front of me was not "up his ass" but a safe distance. The only time I got close to him was when he was braking hard into the corner and I was not ready for this hard braking.
      So I see your point but we were not doing any of those things. And yes I hate that too when a rider comes up on me fast, but when it does happen, I just let him pass by me by me giving a simple wave of my hand. Over. Simple. No drama.
      Thanks for watching and thank you for taking the time to comment.
      Ride safe,
      Scott

    • @SiriKaktiki
      @SiriKaktiki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you are being sort of a "jerk" and I am glad you know it. I am a new rider myself and I wouldn't dream of blocking someone more skilled. This happens to me all the time, I just scoot to the right and let them pass. Live and let live. I know that as time goes by, as I am riding and practicing, my skills will get better and one day not so many people will be passing me. For now I just enjoy the ride and don't care what speed I am going. This is not a competition. I did not feel they were on his ass as you put it, of course if they are more skilled they approach more quickly. And it is a good habit to be checking the mirrors, that's called situation awareness. You have a lot to learn yet, especially about leaving that road rage at home when you take the bike out. Ride safe!

    • @The333
      @The333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SiriKaktiki With all due respect my friend, it is obvious you are the bigger JERK. I really don't give darn about your self righteous opinion about me - quite frankly. You only read what YOU wanted to read - not what I actually wrote. Show me in my comment where I stated that I would "intentionally block" anyone - you cannot, because that is NOT what I said at all. I ACTUALLY said I would move to the right and allow him to pass - my point being that (especially in the US) experienced riders often, aggressively ride up newer riders asses and it is JUST as dangerous as "blocking someone". Read the comment fully and understand it next time before leaving a dumb-ass, ignorant response.

    • @The333
      @The333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NothingToProve You guys clearly are skilled riders, and I was not specifically referring to your approach in this post (it seemed reasonable) - but here in the states, skilled riders (or riders who THINK they are skilled) will ride up on people very aggressively and I think it is just as dangerous as not allowing someone to pass.

    • @SiriKaktiki
      @SiriKaktiki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The333 I have not said that you would block someone, I said that I would not. And I have not professed any opinion about you other than commenting on your rage, which clearly shows in your aggressive reply. I hope you work on that because it can be dangerous to you as well as others. And please stop insulting people just because they dare to disagree with you.

  • @forthcoming-d8694
    @forthcoming-d8694 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, I am a newbie as well and want you please to explain the mistake of “look at his plate holder vibrate, traction control kicks in” thank you much

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure, when the rear tire is under a lot of load/force from the engine the tire will compress slightly and then slip/spin but before the wheel slip, traction control kicks in and prevents slipping or spinning. It's this action of TC working several times a second, adding & taking away power, very very quickly that causes this. And really only noticeable on bikes that have the license plate attached to the rear tire hub like this bike. On bikes where the plate is attached to the tail of the bike, sub-frame, you won't notice it, at least I don't.
      Hope this helps,
      Scott

  • @bakerrv
    @bakerrv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done Scott. When your friend passed the Honda rider he should have realized you were both together and yielded. I'm confused by his actions? And a little confused at some of the comments from new riders. "Ride like you have nothing to prove", says it all.

  • @phar2slor3cpilot55
    @phar2slor3cpilot55 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What you did to past was totally fine from my point of view.
    You could see along way down the road and nothing was coming.
    Here in New Zealand a lot of the main Highways is single lane each way and have now been alot of the road made no passing.
    Bloody hard not to overtake on the 2300cc Rocket.
    I have a bloody big bike but always move over and indicate so that they can past as I have nothing to prove.
    Always move over in the car to when I see motorbikes coming up from behind or even the other way move as far over as I can.
    Great video to

  • @amhqualitybuilding8096
    @amhqualitybuilding8096 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure what his problem was. Being overtake by our bikes does tend to wind some people up!. Nice video 👍

  • @g.r.scanlon1265
    @g.r.scanlon1265 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on, my friend

  • @darvelbidenisapuppet7275
    @darvelbidenisapuppet7275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cars do this to me often on twisty roads. Also groups of Cruiser riders who are in my way far too often. Getting around a group of cruisers is far more annoying. I don't have a lot of HP but my bike is only 330# so I corner well and it never fails that I catch up to group of cruisers and then they want to not let me pass on the straights and suffocate my fun in the corners. I've pulled over and spent a few minutes drinking water to get back on the road and catch back up with the same group that wont let me pass. Southern California is plagued with bad drivers.

  • @davidbadham3712
    @davidbadham3712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You’ve got a great attitude to life and you’ve got the patience of a saint, I would’ve let him have it a lot sooner! Another lesson learned✌️🖖

  • @nicholaschai4458
    @nicholaschai4458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% agreed....i dislike being tailgated ,call me a noob or wad i dun care...i owes have the road courtesy when i saw a fast rider behind and jz give way and let him pass,coz there’s no medal to get if im just an obstacle .

  • @steve-wu7jp
    @steve-wu7jp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always let a faster rider pass me. But usually they can't keep up with me on my local roads 😀

  • @alexmorgan3435
    @alexmorgan3435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His road positioning wasn't great especially when he ran wide over the central line suggesting he was riding beyond his limits. A biker has gotta know their limits.

  • @kribaska
    @kribaska 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a really nice curvy road 🙂

  • @IanDocherty
    @IanDocherty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely explained

  • @LokkieF
    @LokkieF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe this road is much to beautiful to do 125 k/h. To get rid of irritating guys it is sometimes better to just stop for a minute and then have that fine road for your self again. That's the reason why I avoid large groups. Four bikes is really the max for me. You getting to busy looking for each other instead of enjoying the scenery and the driving itself.

  • @georgeblumenthal7938
    @georgeblumenthal7938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    absolutely. i have been riding for 54 yeara and I have always been a low skill level ridet. happy to ride. within my own abilities. nothing to prove

  • @epicrider7861
    @epicrider7861 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate those blockers. The blockers try to share their own mediocre riding skills (ie. misery) with the others. Better to keep them behind you rather than in front of you. They are the ticking time bomb which will explode at any moment. :)

  • @mmusic9194
    @mmusic9194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    On point man.

  • @aureliederomedis8159
    @aureliederomedis8159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So true, so many incidents caused by the "need" of prove something.... so stupid! Thanks for this video :-)

  • @kevincraig8257
    @kevincraig8257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Life it keeps you thunking

  • @kugangles9860
    @kugangles9860 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't count the number of times some couch cruiser rider ends block me in the twisties. I frequently end up performing a dangerous maneuver just like in this video to get around them. Some of these guys ride slower than the mini van cagers in the canyons.

  • @jernejsvab8114
    @jernejsvab8114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi is this road in Austria or Germany? Cheers

  • @marcpilon9189
    @marcpilon9189 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe he wasn't even aware of your presence

  • @pascallenoir5917
    @pascallenoir5917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need to take care that the bike doesn’t go faster than the rider....

  • @j.mendizzle3237
    @j.mendizzle3237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was necessary. Many people do not respect each other on the road. Idk maybe COVID-19 affects people’s brain as much as it does to the respiratory system.

  • @tomquinn607
    @tomquinn607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good case for learning to ride on a much smaller machine. Inexperience and ego mix a dangerous cocktail.

  • @jmr8742
    @jmr8742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It can happen with a supermarket trolley too 😄

  • @craigmorrison7937
    @craigmorrison7937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like a middle aged newbie getting back into biking after years off going from the new rukka and choice of bike .

  • @mopedblade
    @mopedblade 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Review the new tracer 700 please

  • @aK1baby
    @aK1baby 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    one very good example is shown here, how NOT to behave on the streets.
    keep your competitive thinking to yourself and save it for the racetrack (if you even dare). the only thing you do is endanger yourself and OTHERS if you ride like the CBR guy does.
    too many people have forgotten about the very first thing (and rule) you learn in driving school: *mutual consideration*
    it's the very foundation in every aspect of driving.

  • @anupee1
    @anupee1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad that reason prevailed soon enough. So many accidents occur exactly with such behaviour.

  • @ippudkiippude5811
    @ippudkiippude5811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    " It's all right ", Try riding motorcycles in India. You'd end making a Oscar winning movie (kidding) !

  • @AMPJ08
    @AMPJ08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just cover his plate because he could put a complain.

  • @kowalski2334
    @kowalski2334 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    its even worse when you have a whole group of slow riding bikers in front of you, they wont let you pass. its the worst that can happen.

  • @avrc9285
    @avrc9285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking at the footage, I dont think he was aware of you being there and he was obviously not an experienced rider...
    I think, we should be a bit more patient and forgiving. I say "we", cause I would probably do the same as you.
    I do agree with the general message though.