I’ve recently stumbled across your channel, and I have to say that it is a refreshing change from a lot of other bike channels. Useful information and bikes ridden in a realistic way- not at 12000rpm from beginning to end. Good job Scott. Subscribed.
I ordered a Givi, waited 2 months for delivery then received an email informing me that it was not available 😧 Actually did me a favour as I then ordered the MRA which turned out to be the better screen 😀
Hey Scott. Good piece. I run an MRA X-Screen on my GSX and it makes all the difference. The bike becomes way more rideable at higher speeds or more adverse conditions. I have had mine over 6 years now and it still looks great!
Thanks for the review of the MRA Windscreen as well as your reviews of the BMW F900XR. I just bought the windscreen to install on my 2020 XR (which I purchased about 2 months ago). Having ridden a Ninja for years and now in my 60's the last 18 months what with Covid and all has not seen many miles on two wheels ( the sport bike riding position doesn't agree with my back anymore). The new bike has totally reignited my love of riding. It is the perfect bike for riding in the Hill Country of Central Texas. Again thanks. You deserve a kick back from BMW Motorrad and MRA as you helped me to pull the trigger on both. Cheers!!
I fitted an MRA spoiler to my Yamaha FJR 1300 stock screen and it absolutely transformed the wind flow and noise for the better. I was able to keep the screen at the lowest level all the time - the spoiler did all the work. I would definitely recommend MRA spoilers.
Enjoy all your reviews, including this one. I actually took delivery of my MRA Vario Touring screen for my 2020 Yamaha Tracer 900 gt. Without doubt a vast improvement on the stock screen. After much research and a few emails to the super friendly folks at MRA, the decision was easy. Also €142 included the shipment to Southern Spain. Definitely stronger, nicely tinted in the smoked version and more ridged than the stock version. Very importantly, it is engineered correctly so as to ensure that on full lock, neither the mirror or hand guards hit the screen. As it is slightly wider and slightly higher it reduces the wind effect well, although I still feel some wind on the top part of my crash helmet, there is no severe buffeting and noise is greatly reduced. As I am 1.82cm, I was not expecting miracles as you say 😂. Keep up the good work. Regards Paul
i had to remove the OEM windscreen from my KTM 790 ADV as I had terrible buffeting. I ended up with the Racing Screen from PUIG which fits very well the KTMs Design and then I added the Spoiler from Touratech. Now all the buffeting is gone and the Weather Protection for long distance travelling is still "OK". Thanks for your effort - I know it takes a lot of time with the testing but happy to hear you found your solution. Greetings
Another great review, thanks Scott. I have a similar MRA screen with spoiler lip on my Kawasaki 1400GTR (Concours 14) and can echo all of your comments. While it's not as silent as my Pan-Euro screen was at full height, it really does a great job of cutting wind noise and buffeting, and wait until you ride with in the rain, mine does a great job of pushing rain-drops off my visor. The finish is just as good as the stock Kawasaki screen, with no high speed flex (I read lots of aftermarket screens are made of cheaper and inferior plastic, which can flex at highway speeds) and they look good on the bike too, plus the adjustability means you can tweak it exactly how you want it. I am a big fan of the MRA screens and think they represent good value for the quality of product. Cheers :-)
Hey NTP, Ive heard a lot of complaints that the Handle for raising/lowering the screen is on the wrong side (throttle hand). I've just moved mine to the other side while I was removing the screen to add a TFT security device & it works a treat. Tried posting a photo but can't do it here. Its a really easy mod & takes 10 mins max & it doesn't cost anything.
Hi Scott, I'm wondering if You could feel any difference after mounting the engine spoiler except visual?😂 Like less buffeting or more stability at high speeds? Or maybe You sold that bike before it came?
Hi there ! Just fitted and tested the MRA vario touring. Really efficient ! When screen is set in high position, no more turbulences in the Helmet and a significant noise reduction. Enjoyed it ! Thanks for the advice
Hi Scott. Thanks for the informative review of the MRA screen. I took delivery of my new F900XR two months ago. Fantastic motorcycle, with the wind roar (in low screen position) and a bit of buffeting (in the high position) being the only negative. A bit of research pointed me in the direction of MRA. Your review helps a lot. The only problem is probably going to be delivery times with the current state of world supply chains. Down here in NZ we are a long way from Europe, and I fear most of summer will pass before it gets here. I'm still waiting for the panniers and top box to arrive from BMW.
Hi, I have the exact same behaviour with the screen position. Did you got this MRA screen? I'm affraid that due to that windshield is higher the buffeting effect occur on lower position, however the design is different and air migth flow in a different way.
@@josecarlosvaladas9773 Hi Jose. Yes, I did get the MRA vario touring screen. A definite improvement over the standard screen. I got the tinted screen and it looks good on the bike (rather than the clear standard screen). I ordered it directly from MRA on their website. Airfreighted by DHL and took only 3 weeks from Germany to New Zealand. Pleased with the product and the service.
@@josecarlosvaladas9773 With the original screen I was getting buffeting in the high position only. In the low position it was wind roar. With the MRA vario touring screen I now have no buffeting and the wind roar seems to be reduced. However, remember that there are many variables comparing one person's experiences with another, such as helmet shape and both the height and posture of the rider.
Hey, I'm considering to buy a spoiler. But I don't know if I should get a tinted or a transparent one. My question would be, if you could see everything with the tinted spoiler or is it distracting while riding? Greetz
Hey Scott Just got myself a f800GT. Now duh shopping for a spoiler. Which one is best for me? I’m 1.70 5”8 with a fat seat on it. Feeling I need 2 “ lower or higher. What’s your thoughts?
I always wonder WHY manufactures can't supply a windscreen that actually works. I have recently bought a BMW R1200RS and the screen is useless at highway speeds here in Australia. 100 - 110 kph. I sold my Honda ST1300 because it was becoming too heavy to maneuver in parking lots etc., but at least the electrically adjustable screen had LOTS of adjustment to suit whatever speed you were doing. I have fitted an MRA extension to the stock R1200RS screen, it's an improvement but still a long way short of what a touring machine should offer. Great review as always Scott.
Well, you just said the magic word there, "touring" machine. Both bikes you talk about are sport/touring machines and not touring. This is why I got the 1250RT, it has the wind protection of a tour but weighs about 50kg lighter than the ST1300. And still has shaft drive :) So there's your solution, get the RT :) Let me know what you decide? take care, Scott edit: I do agree with you on the windscreens, almost all OEM's screens suck.
Excellent review as always! As TexMexStrada has already stated it's worth fiddling with the various settings to get it perfect for you. From what I've read the general consensus is the spoiler should be parallel with the main screen with a small gap between the two to improve the airflow. ( I haven't got a BMW but I do have the MRA spoiler) One thing I will say, if it's set up wrongly it makes things worse rather than better! (Just my experiences, as always YMMV)
Great looking XR Scott. I wish you all the best with the bike. I do hope you get the spoiler soon, that definately will make the bike even prettier than it already is.
MRA is making great screens, I had one on my CBR1100XX also VarioTouring with spoler. Best one! Try it on Autobahn speeds like 150+ kmh, mine on CBR1100XX was noisy on these speeds, but I can also say I do not ride on speeds like these without earplugs.
I'm looking forward to installing a freaking huge adjustable windshield on the "for looks only" windshield on the GSX650... Don't give a damn how it looks if it is quite on a 5 hour freeway trip. Thumbs up for the review buddy. Ich gratuliere dich!!!!
Good review! I recommend to keep fiddling with the angle of the spoiler till you find just the right angle for you. I loved the MRA spoiler on my Multistrada, made a world of difference once I had it dialed in.
@@Scootir185 I had a 2014 1200S GT. I used an MRA clip-on spoiler in combination with an Puig touring screen. Worked awesome. I will link my review in the next response
@@TexMexStrada Hey thanks so much. I’ve got a Givi add on one at the moment and it does a nice job as well. I was hoping to get a slicker looking all in one however it seems I’m out of luck. Really appreciate your reply!
Your video is one week late, I just bought a Puig without the airfoil for my Tiger 1200 XCA and like you with so many different option its just a guess to know which one's going to work, so that being said I think you need to order all the screens on the market to do a comparison so your subscribers will know which one works best. Lol 😁. I went with the clear, why did you go with the tint? The puig being a little taller than the original moved the air over my head to reduce wind noise, but did not eliminate the wind noise, in 5' 9" tall. I'm assuming if I add the airfoil it will reduce more wind noise, but I really don't want to because I like a clear view, and I'm thinking those black brackets would drive me nuts. I almost went with the MRA, but being in the states the puig was quickly available. The packaging from RevZilla was great but my screen was scratched, most likely from the factory because the original packaging was in perfect condition. If you haven't tried the product Plexus for plastic, I highly recommended it, it removed all the scratches, I was very impressed with the product. Thank you for the review.
Thanks for the informative video and foreign name pronunciations! You asked what's missing and as well as the engine bars (mine came from the factory on the new bike), I would say also absent are: 1) SW Motech upper bars. They share a common mounting point with the stock engine bars so can coexist. These heavy gauge items also stick significantly prouder of the engine bars giving better all-round protection for bike and also any lights attached to them. 2) A slip-on titanium Akrapovič exhaust to add bling and a richer sound Incidentally, are you aware that Hornig do a touring windscreen with not add-on parts?
So if I understand it right, the standard BMW bars (low) can be used in conjuction with the SW Motech upper bars? Without modification? Have you got pics of them mounted on your bike? PM me pls.
@@roythompson6137 How odd, I wonder therefore how my dealer fitted them! Incidentally, my incentive to fit both originally came from an F900R/XR forum where somebody in the US showed off his bike with them both on as well as confirming to me they were compatible. Curiouser and curiouser! I might email SW Motech for their comment unless you beat me to it!
Scott, Very useful video thanks. I have been struggling to get the right setting for a Puig touring screen on my KTM 1190 and now will try a spoiler. Charlie P.S. I was stationed in Detmold in the 80s and great to see it is still a beautiful part of Germany.
I ordered a Puig and received, I don't like it because it is the tall version and the 650 V-strom hasn't the nice lever adjuster. I may cut it down and install a spoiler. Thank you for this review!
Really good video, just what I am looking for for my GS, a question please, your audio is really good apart from at higher speed there is some crackles of interference, I also have this is sue, I use a GoPro Hero 8, have you found a fix for this? Ride safe
Thanks for posting Scott, I think you’ve just saved me a lot of time and money with this review. My XR came with the lower sport screen, fine down but really noisy when raised so not much use really. I’m noticing a lot of engine noise at tickover which disappears when pulling the clutch in. The dealer tells me it’s the clutch basket and that’s normal, are you getting this on yours? Cheers.
Yea, I hear it too. It's a sound that I knew that I'd have to live with when I bought it but just about every bike has something that one has to "live with". This is probably my one biggest complaint about this bike, the sound of the motor, not the exhaust, the exhaust note is good. Oh well...sigh. 😒
I had one on a GSX1250 FA i was never too sure if it worked properly then I got my present bike GSX750F K4 and it has a touring screen which has no blades on it just a tall screen I think it’s probably the better option in my opinion I think it’s a bit of a lottery?
Hi Scott, there is some hope for your engine spoiler. I ordered mine in june and got it yesterday. By the way: Great clip as always! I also decided for the MRA screen and I think the noise is ok... But I am 1.96m tall and therefor it could be a little higher. Regards from bavaria!
The other side of good wind protection is that when you have too good protection, you don't have enough air flow and in summer i personally feel hotter and in winter my glasses fog up and does not clear because there is no air flow. So sometimes i lower my windscreen to get more air flow in my face =)
Hi Scott! Your bike looks great and the engine spoiler will add to its looks for sure! I am a T9 owner and have lots of noise from the shield, do you think that a spoiler like that would help? Thanks in advance and wish I had the same bike like you, it would all be easier..:)
I’ve bought two very similar screens with wind deflectors and put them on the same bike; one worked well, one didn’t. For the record, the MRA worked, but the other one worked well on another bike. My takeaway is to do the research and listen to the forms, these things are very nuanced and performance depends on bIke/rider variables beyond the design of the windscreen.
So true! The windscreen mfg. has to know the aerodynamics of the bike to make sure it compliments that first, then improve upon it. Looks like MRA did their homework on this one. 👍
Thank you Robert, I look above the windshield, even in the up position. The gopro is on my chin that is why in the video it looks through the windshield. Ride safe, Scott
Your XR looks great! Like the colour matched BMW cases instead of the common grey ones I have. Just about to order an MRA with spoiler for my 2017 R1200R
The stock screen had lots of buffeting and wind noise...as most OEM screens do in the middleweight group...so no surprise there. I'd say (if I had to give a number) the MRA screen reduced buffeting buy about half, 50%. Made it tolerable, but and this is a big but, reduced the wind noise by about 75%, which made it great for touring at highway speeds. take care, Scott
@@NothingToProve Thanks so much for your reply, Scott. That's a considerable improvement over the stock screen, and likely to yield similar results for me, as we're of similar height / build. Thanks for your detailed response and the MRA is now on the top of my wish-list! Happy new year.
Thanks for this review - I’ve fitted a MRA Vario screen and I agree with your findings. I’m now trying to decide on a rear hugger, maybe Puig or Powerbronze ? If you could advise on the most protective hugger I would appreciate it - my bike gets filthy riding around here !
Thanks Gordon, Yea, I'm thinking about doing one too. Just briefly looked but not serious as of yet. But did look at the Puig and it looks good but that's about it. I've never heard of Powerbronze. Hmm....
I thought I would ask you a quick question have you chosen to install a tempered glass protector for your tft screen? I ask as this week I am taking delivery of a 2021 s1000r sport and would like to know from those who have had use of the BMW tft like the one on my new bike if a tempered screen protector would be a good addition. If you have got one which one did you get anti glare or ultra clear ? Please can you let me know thanks
Picked up mine today after having the top box fitted and was surprised how small it is. It definitely doesn't fit my Schuberth C3 Pro. Until I laid it on the side.
I've got one on my KTM 1290 SAS. It's wider than the original but no taller. With the spoiler up it makes it a bit taller but slightly disappointed as if I duck down just a couple of inches I get completely still air. I'm 6'2".
Great review Scott. Except, please wash your BMW! 😎😂😂. I know you rode it everywhere & that is it’s intention, but keep your beautiful motorcycle clean 😉🙏
Yea, where I live, and at this time of the year, rain, cold and even when it's not raining I run into roads that are still wet and the bike just gets so dirty so quickly. 😒😢 Once I get the engine spoiler on there, I'll keep it clean 😁🤣😂
Great video! I just wanted to hear about the comfort seat! I made a test drive and my only complain was the lack of comfort on the seat. Does it make a differens to spend 400 euro to get the comfort seat from BMW?
Here in Spain it's about 350 euros. The sick thing is you've already paid for/got a seat. When I bought my XR a few weeks ago, the BMW dealer told me not to bother with the confort seat...he advised me to take it to a local shop (motorbike or upholstry). For 80 euros they can give me a nice gel comfort filling.
I have Givi airflow, also a spoiler like windscreen. Oddly enough I have with this windscreen an opposite experience. I am 6.3 foot. I have been fumbling around with it for half a year in the highest position mounted on the bike, crappy results, whatever I did. Now it is in the lowest position, tilted back a little. Much, much better. Thing is.. it's different for every rider and moto combination. Keep thinking out of the box. maybe it helps someone.
I noticed you change gears very fast when accelerating staying in low rpms is there a particular reason for that or its just the matter of driving style?
Hello! How is the comfort seat as compared to the original? I have an extra gel+visco layer added to the original and I'm thinking about buying the wunderlich komfort seat. Any thoughts ? Good day!
Well, the original is hard, stiff and uncomfortable over long distances, so anything is an improvement upon that. I don't know the Wunderlich komfort seat but I do know that it will be better than the original and if it's cheaper than the BMW comfort seat, then try it 👍 Ride safe, Scott
The previous owner put it, but shouldn't be difficult to find a place that does it. Even some BMW dealers send you directly to them when you buy an F900. I was thinking about buying the wunderlich seat and try it, as they have a 60 day return policy and, if I don't like it 400€-much, just return it.
I noticed that a larger windshield makes visor on my helmet fog-up due to reduced air flow. Also it created a lot of buffeting noise. I fixed the buffeting by adding an adjustable windshield spoiler, which however reduced airflow even more and increased fogging up. Maybe buying a different helmet with larger vents might help...
Heated vest only when it's really cold, when it's getting close to freezing. Na, I have not done a video on riding gear, I don't think I have the audience for it yet, nor do I have the variety of gear to do a good video imho.
I have the MRA screen on my 750GS at the moment but not having much success. I like the look but it’s too narrow, the wind over the top is fine and I can ride with my visor up at speed. However the wind comes off the sides and hits me both sides of the helmet making for a very noisy ride. I also have the Puig touring screen, it wasn’t much better but what an ugly screen. Plan to try the Powerbronze next, I’m going to have a whole collection of different screens sitting around the garage hopefully one of them will work.
@@ray8328 the powerbronze screen with a slight kick up on the top edge seems to be ok. Although, I have only ridden once with it at 'motorway!' speeds.
Just google "MRA Windscreen" and it will pull up offers in your country. For example I ordered directly from MRA, (mrashop.de) because I'm in Germany. Ride safe, Scott
Oh, that's just a cheap multi-purpose screw driver with multiple heads that I picked up at the local hard ware store. There is no name brand on it (probably from china). I think it was like 10 euros or something like that.
I have same side cases on my f900xr and am really dissapointed with them... Look good but compared to my Versys 650 cases they are way to small and unusable and I can't even fit my schubert in the right case. Have Givi Trekkker 52 as top case, I need more than the 30l BMW one...
Very good initiative! Too little is mentioned about screens as it makes a huge difference depending on your lenght! Important on longer trips. Tried MRA and now a Puig as the stock screen on Ktm’s big adventures are bad when you’re 1,95 m. Now I’ll watch your vid! 😀
I’ve recently stumbled across your channel, and I have to say that it is a refreshing change from a lot of other bike channels. Useful information and bikes ridden in a realistic way- not at 12000rpm from beginning to end. Good job Scott. Subscribed.
BTY, stole my words from my mind... I think exactly the same about the channel
I ordered a Givi, waited 2 months for delivery then received an email informing me that it was not available 😧 Actually did me a favour as I then ordered the MRA which turned out to be the better screen 😀
Why do you say it's better? You have both to compare?
Smoothest voice of motorycle reviewers! Good work mate ;)
Hey Scott. Good piece. I run an MRA X-Screen on my GSX and it makes all the difference. The bike becomes way more rideable at higher speeds or more adverse conditions. I have had mine over 6 years now and it still looks great!
Thanks for the review of the MRA Windscreen as well as your reviews of the BMW F900XR. I just bought the windscreen to install on my 2020 XR (which I purchased about 2 months ago). Having ridden a Ninja for years and now in my 60's the last 18 months what with Covid and all has not seen many miles on two wheels ( the sport bike riding position doesn't agree with my back anymore). The new bike has totally reignited my love of riding. It is the perfect bike for riding in the Hill Country of Central Texas. Again thanks. You deserve a kick back from BMW Motorrad and MRA as you helped me to pull the trigger on both. Cheers!!
I fitted an MRA spoiler to my Yamaha FJR 1300 stock screen and it absolutely transformed the wind flow and noise for the better. I was able to keep the screen at the lowest level all the time - the spoiler did all the work. I would definitely recommend MRA spoilers.
Enjoy all your reviews, including this one.
I actually took delivery of my MRA Vario Touring screen for my 2020 Yamaha Tracer 900 gt.
Without doubt a vast improvement on the stock screen.
After much research and a few emails to the super friendly folks at MRA, the decision was easy. Also €142 included the shipment to Southern Spain.
Definitely stronger, nicely tinted in the smoked version and more ridged than the stock version.
Very importantly, it is engineered correctly so as to ensure that on full lock, neither the mirror or hand guards hit the screen.
As it is slightly wider and slightly higher it reduces the wind effect well, although I still feel some wind on the top part of my crash helmet, there is no severe buffeting and noise is greatly reduced. As I am 1.82cm, I was not expecting miracles as you say 😂.
Keep up the good work.
Regards Paul
That is the way all reviews should be done ,well done I have just bought one for my tiger 900 get pro
i had to remove the OEM windscreen from my KTM 790 ADV as I had terrible buffeting. I ended up with the Racing Screen from PUIG which fits very well the KTMs Design and then I added the Spoiler from Touratech. Now all the buffeting is gone and the Weather Protection for long distance travelling is still "OK". Thanks for your effort - I know it takes a lot of time with the testing but happy to hear you found your solution. Greetings
Another great review, thanks Scott. I have a similar MRA screen with spoiler lip on my Kawasaki 1400GTR (Concours 14) and can echo all of your comments. While it's not as silent as my Pan-Euro screen was at full height, it really does a great job of cutting wind noise and buffeting, and wait until you ride with in the rain, mine does a great job of pushing rain-drops off my visor. The finish is just as good as the stock Kawasaki screen, with no high speed flex (I read lots of aftermarket screens are made of cheaper and inferior plastic, which can flex at highway speeds) and they look good on the bike too, plus the adjustability means you can tweak it exactly how you want it. I am a big fan of the MRA screens and think they represent good value for the quality of product. Cheers :-)
I’ve got the exact same setup on my XR. The MRA screen is 10x better than the standard tall screen. Buffeting is almost zero.
The wind noise can be a serious issue. Good to hear a review of one and inclusive of price and install. Winter air usually involves more noise.
Hey NTP, Ive heard a lot of complaints that the Handle for raising/lowering the screen is on the wrong side (throttle hand). I've just moved mine to the other side while I was removing the screen to add a TFT security device & it works a treat. Tried posting a photo but can't do it here. Its a really easy mod & takes 10 mins max & it doesn't cost anything.
Hi Scott, I'm wondering if You could feel any difference after mounting the engine spoiler except visual?😂 Like less buffeting or more stability at high speeds? Or maybe You sold that bike before it came?
Hi there ! Just fitted and tested the MRA vario touring. Really efficient ! When screen is set in high position, no more turbulences in the Helmet and a significant noise reduction. Enjoyed it ! Thanks for the advice
Bought that one for my XR. It worked wonderfully for me with the right setting. A lot less turbulence and much quieter at higher speeds.
Interesting review. Did you consider just getting the MRA spoiler with clamp add on to go onto the BMW screen?
Hi Scott. Thanks for the informative review of the MRA screen. I took delivery of my new F900XR two months ago. Fantastic motorcycle, with the wind roar (in low screen position) and a bit of buffeting (in the high position) being the only negative. A bit of research pointed me in the direction of MRA. Your review helps a lot. The only problem is probably going to be delivery times with the current state of world supply chains. Down here in NZ we are a long way from Europe, and I fear most of summer will pass before it gets here. I'm still waiting for the panniers and top box to arrive from BMW.
Hi, I have the exact same behaviour with the screen position. Did you got this MRA screen? I'm affraid that due to that windshield is higher the buffeting effect occur on lower position, however the design is different and air migth flow in a different way.
@@josecarlosvaladas9773 Hi Jose. Yes, I did get the MRA vario touring screen. A definite improvement over the standard screen. I got the tinted screen and it looks good on the bike (rather than the clear standard screen). I ordered it directly from MRA on their website. Airfreighted by DHL and took only 3 weeks from Germany to New Zealand. Pleased with the product and the service.
@@motorman7113, thanks for the reply! What about the buffeting ? Did it disapeared on both positions?
@@josecarlosvaladas9773 With the original screen I was getting buffeting in the high position only. In the low position it was wind roar. With the MRA vario touring screen I now have no buffeting and the wind roar seems to be reduced. However, remember that there are many variables comparing one person's experiences with another, such as helmet shape and both the height and posture of the rider.
@@motorman7113 thanks for feedback!
Hey, I'm considering to buy a spoiler. But I don't know if I should get a tinted or a transparent one. My question would be, if you could see everything with the tinted spoiler or is it distracting while riding?
Greetz
Hey Scott
Just got myself a f800GT.
Now duh shopping for a spoiler.
Which one is best for me?
I’m 1.70 5”8 with a fat seat on it. Feeling I need 2 “ lower or higher.
What’s your thoughts?
Same here, 62cm head! Hi from Alaska! Motorcycle season is done here. Looking forward to next season.
I always wonder WHY manufactures can't supply a windscreen that actually works. I have recently bought a BMW R1200RS and the screen is useless at highway speeds here in Australia. 100 - 110 kph. I sold my Honda ST1300 because it was becoming too heavy to maneuver in parking lots etc., but at least the electrically adjustable screen had LOTS of adjustment to suit whatever speed you were doing. I have fitted an MRA extension to the stock R1200RS screen, it's an improvement but still a long way short of what a touring machine should offer. Great review as always Scott.
Well, you just said the magic word there, "touring" machine. Both bikes you talk about are sport/touring machines and not touring. This is why I got the 1250RT, it has the wind protection of a tour but weighs about 50kg lighter than the ST1300. And still has shaft drive :)
So there's your solution, get the RT :)
Let me know what you decide?
take care,
Scott
edit: I do agree with you on the windscreens, almost all OEM's screens suck.
Excellent review as always! As TexMexStrada has already stated it's worth fiddling with the various settings to get it perfect for you. From what I've read the general consensus is the spoiler should be parallel with the main screen with a small gap between the two to improve the airflow. ( I haven't got a BMW but I do have the MRA spoiler) One thing I will say, if it's set up wrongly it makes things worse rather than better! (Just my experiences, as always YMMV)
Great looking XR Scott. I wish you all the best with the bike. I do hope you get the spoiler soon, that definately will make the bike even prettier than it already is.
Hi Scott! Don't know if it's been answered before but how's the BMW comfort seat for the XR? Thanks
MRA is making great screens, I had one on my CBR1100XX also VarioTouring with spoler. Best one! Try it on Autobahn speeds like 150+ kmh, mine on CBR1100XX was noisy on these speeds, but I can also say I do not ride on speeds like these without earplugs.
I'm looking forward to installing a freaking huge adjustable windshield on the "for looks only" windshield on the GSX650... Don't give a damn how it looks if it is quite on a 5 hour freeway trip.
Thumbs up for the review buddy. Ich gratuliere dich!!!!
Good review! I recommend to keep fiddling with the angle of the spoiler till you find just the right angle for you. I loved the MRA spoiler on my Multistrada, made a world of difference once I had it dialed in.
May I ask which Multi you have? I’ve been trying to find this screen for my 1260 Enduro but it doesn’t look like MRA makes one.
@@Scootir185 I had a 2014 1200S GT. I used an MRA clip-on spoiler in combination with an Puig touring screen. Worked awesome. I will link my review in the next response
@@TexMexStrada Hey thanks so much. I’ve got a Givi add on one at the moment and it does a nice job as well. I was hoping to get a slicker looking all in one however it seems I’m out of luck. Really appreciate your reply!
Your video is one week late, I just bought a Puig without the airfoil for my Tiger 1200 XCA and like you with so many different option its just a guess to know which one's going to work, so that being said I think you need to order all the screens on the market to do a comparison so your subscribers will know which one works best. Lol 😁.
I went with the clear, why did you go with the tint?
The puig being a little taller than the original moved the air over my head to reduce wind noise, but did not eliminate the wind noise, in 5' 9" tall. I'm assuming if I add the airfoil it will reduce more wind noise, but I really don't want to because I like a clear view, and I'm thinking those black brackets would drive me nuts.
I almost went with the MRA, but being in the states the puig was quickly available. The packaging from RevZilla was great but my screen was scratched, most likely from the factory because the original packaging was in perfect condition. If you haven't tried the product Plexus for plastic, I highly recommended it, it removed all the scratches, I was very impressed with the product.
Thank you for the review.
Thanks for the informative video and foreign name pronunciations! You asked what's missing and as well as the engine bars (mine came from the factory on the new bike), I would say also absent are:
1) SW Motech upper bars. They share a common mounting point with the stock engine bars so can coexist. These heavy gauge items also stick significantly prouder of the engine bars giving better all-round protection for bike and also any lights attached to them.
2) A slip-on titanium Akrapovič exhaust to add bling and a richer sound
Incidentally, are you aware that Hornig do a touring windscreen with not add-on parts?
So if I understand it right, the standard BMW bars (low) can be used in conjuction with the SW Motech upper bars? Without modification? Have you got pics of them mounted on your bike? PM me pls.
@@roythompson6137 Happy to do this if you can point me to an email address (I can't see one under 'About').
@@kevinmobile sent you a msg on your channel... Thanks!
just checked on the SW Motech page and it specifically says that they are not compatible with the original bars....
@@roythompson6137 How odd, I wonder therefore how my dealer fitted them! Incidentally, my incentive to fit both originally came from an F900R/XR forum where somebody in the US showed off his bike with them both on as well as confirming to me they were compatible. Curiouser and curiouser! I might email SW Motech for their comment unless you beat me to it!
Scott, Very useful video thanks. I have been struggling to get the right setting for a Puig touring screen on my KTM 1190 and now will try a spoiler. Charlie P.S. I was stationed in Detmold in the 80s and great to see it is still a beautiful part of Germany.
I ordered a Puig and received, I don't like it because it is the tall version and the 650 V-strom hasn't the nice lever adjuster. I may cut it down and install a spoiler. Thank you for this review!
Thanks a lot.
Your test will be helpfull of I need to replace the windscreen of my future F900Xr.
The MTA-screens are great. Had one like that on my bike. It was a major improvement compared to the stock screen.
Take care Scott
Really good video, just what I am looking for for my GS, a question please, your audio is really good apart from at higher speed there is some crackles of interference, I also have this is sue, I use a GoPro Hero 8, have you found a fix for this? Ride safe
Thanks for posting Scott, I think you’ve just saved me a lot of time and money with this review. My XR came with the lower sport screen, fine down but really noisy when raised so not much use really.
I’m noticing a lot of engine noise at tickover which disappears when pulling the clutch in. The dealer tells me it’s the clutch basket and that’s normal, are you getting this on yours? Cheers.
Yea, I hear it too. It's a sound that I knew that I'd have to live with when I bought it but just about every bike has something that one has to "live with". This is probably my one biggest complaint about this bike, the sound of the motor, not the exhaust, the exhaust note is good. Oh well...sigh. 😒
@@NothingToProve
Thank you for replying Scott, much appreciated and reassuring about engine clatter.👍👍
mine does the same, really rattly...
Hello Scott, nice video, as always. I will also buy the MRA for my XR. Do you have the clear or smoke grey version on your bike? Thanks
Nice video. One question: With the screen and spoiler up, are you looking through it or above? I appreciate your help.
through it.
@@NothingToProve Thanks!
I had one on a GSX1250 FA i was never too sure if it worked properly then I got my present bike GSX750F K4 and it has a touring screen which has no blades on it just a tall screen I think it’s probably the better option in my opinion I think it’s a bit of a lottery?
Hi Scott, there is some hope for your engine spoiler. I ordered mine in june and got it yesterday. By the way: Great clip as always! I also decided for the MRA screen and I think the noise is ok... But I am 1.96m tall and therefor it could be a little higher. Regards from bavaria!
Looks well on the bike. Have been waiting for Puig frame sliders for 4 months! 👍
The other side of good wind protection is that when you have too good protection, you don't have enough air flow and in summer i personally feel hotter and in winter my glasses fog up and does not clear because there is no air flow. So sometimes i lower my windscreen to get more air flow in my face =)
i already have a givi windshield , but is that enough reason for me to buy the mra vario windshield?
I need an opinion from someone who has used both
Backorder... sounds familiair ...
Thanks for the video !
Put one on my Mutistrada 950.
What a difference.
Top screen MRA.👍
Hi Scott! Your bike looks great and the engine spoiler will add to its looks for sure! I am a T9 owner and have lots of noise from the shield, do you think that a spoiler like that would help? Thanks in advance and wish I had the same bike like you, it would all be easier..:)
Yea, a MRA windshield will really improve the wind protection on the T9, also there are others...take a look at all of them. :)
Of course it does work and very much! MRA I’m Germany is one of the best imo
I’ve bought two very similar screens with wind deflectors and put them on the same bike; one worked well, one didn’t. For the record, the MRA worked, but the other one worked well on another bike. My takeaway is to do the research and listen to the forms, these things are very nuanced and performance depends on bIke/rider variables beyond the design of the windscreen.
So true! The windscreen mfg. has to know the aerodynamics of the bike to make sure it compliments that first, then improve upon it. Looks like MRA did their homework on this one. 👍
Scott is this clear or the smoked grey version ? Planning to buy one. If it is a smoked grey one. Do you have visibility issues ?
It is smoked but I look over it so it does not bother me at all, even when I look down it's really not dark enough to bother me.
Ride safe,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thank you for the reply sir. Im 5'7'' , not sure I'll be able to see from above it.
Anyway feel that the clear one will look quite odd on the bike.
Thanks for the excellent videos. Do you look through or above the windshield?
Thank you Robert,
I look above the windshield, even in the up position. The gopro is on my chin that is why in the video it looks through the windshield.
Ride safe,
Scott
Beautiful machine!
And excellent review like always!
Your XR looks great! Like the colour matched BMW cases instead of the common grey ones I have.
Just about to order an MRA with spoiler for my 2017 R1200R
My enginespoiler was ordered on the 22th of February 2020 and still is in backorder. Hope to get it before the bike gets traded in...
I have the ERMAX windshield and im happy with it.
I wonder if you kept the MRA screen because I haven’t seen it on newer videos?
I have an MRA on my 1250GS, it does a great job for me.
Hi Scott. Did MRA cause or reduce/improve any head buffeting?
The stock screen had lots of buffeting and wind noise...as most OEM screens do in the middleweight group...so no surprise there. I'd say (if I had to give a number) the MRA screen reduced buffeting buy about half, 50%. Made it tolerable, but and this is a big but, reduced the wind noise by about 75%, which made it great for touring at highway speeds.
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thanks so much for your reply, Scott. That's a considerable improvement over the stock screen, and likely to yield similar results for me, as we're of similar height / build. Thanks for your detailed response and the MRA is now on the top of my wish-list!
Happy new year.
Awesome video, exactly what I was looking for
Thanks for this review - I’ve fitted a MRA Vario screen and I agree with your findings.
I’m now trying to decide on a rear hugger, maybe Puig or Powerbronze ? If you could advise on the most protective hugger I would appreciate it - my bike gets filthy riding around here !
Thanks Gordon,
Yea, I'm thinking about doing one too. Just briefly looked but not serious as of yet. But did look at the Puig and it looks good but that's about it. I've never heard of Powerbronze. Hmm....
it looks cool and this is a improvement for sure, cheers V!
I thought I would ask you a quick question have you chosen to install a tempered glass protector for your tft screen? I ask as this week I am taking delivery of a 2021 s1000r sport and would like to know from those who have had use of the BMW tft like the one on my new bike if a tempered screen protector would be a good addition. If you have got one which one did you get anti glare or ultra clear ? Please can you let me know thanks
Nope, nothing. The screen doesn't need protection & it's optically bonded so it is already anti-glair.
Picked up mine today after having the top box fitted and was surprised how small it is. It definitely doesn't fit my Schuberth C3 Pro. Until I laid it on the side.
Just got mine enginespoiler. Looks great.
I've got one on my KTM 1290 SAS. It's wider than the original but no taller. With the spoiler up it makes it a bit taller but slightly disappointed as if I duck down just a couple of inches I get completely still air. I'm 6'2".
Nice video interesting experimentation! Did the windscreen damage the paint work?
No, at least no yet. I will keep an eye on it and it if does...oh yea, video will be made!
@@NothingToProve otherwise add a washer on the inside of the bottom screws to prevent touching
Great review Scott. Except, please wash your BMW! 😎😂😂. I know you rode it everywhere & that is it’s intention, but keep your beautiful motorcycle clean 😉🙏
Yea, where I live, and at this time of the year, rain, cold and even when it's not raining I run into roads that are still wet and the bike just gets so dirty so quickly. 😒😢
Once I get the engine spoiler on there, I'll keep it clean 😁🤣😂
Very cool. Excellent review and looks really nice on the bike. That's fantastic for a crusin' machine.
Great video! I just wanted to hear about the comfort seat! I made a test drive and my only complain was the lack of comfort on the seat. Does it make a differens to spend 400 euro to get the comfort seat from BMW?
I don't remember it costing that much, more like under 300 euro.
But yes, it's worth it to me, imho.
Here in Spain it's about 350 euros. The sick thing is you've already paid for/got a seat. When I bought my XR a few weeks ago, the BMW dealer told me not to bother with the confort seat...he advised me to take it to a local shop (motorbike or upholstry). For 80 euros they can give me a nice gel comfort filling.
I have Givi airflow, also a spoiler like windscreen. Oddly enough I have with this windscreen an opposite experience. I am 6.3 foot. I have been fumbling around with it for half a year in the highest position mounted on the bike, crappy results, whatever I did. Now it is in the lowest position, tilted back a little. Much, much better. Thing is.. it's different for every rider and moto combination. Keep thinking out of the box. maybe it helps someone.
Hello, I bought a used one, received without its gaskets and screws, could I use those of the original? Are they the same? Thank you
Nope, sorry, they are different.
@@NothingToProve I bought it used and did not receive its screws, how could I do? 😅
I noticed you change gears very fast when accelerating staying in low rpms is there a particular reason for that or its just the matter of driving style?
Never thought about it. hmm. I guess it's a habit developed over time, the lower the RPM the better the gas mileage. Usually.
Hello!
How is the comfort seat as compared to the original?
I have an extra gel+visco layer added to the original and I'm thinking about buying the wunderlich komfort seat.
Any thoughts ?
Good day!
Well, the original is hard, stiff and uncomfortable over long distances, so anything is an improvement upon that. I don't know the Wunderlich komfort seat but I do know that it will be better than the original and if it's cheaper than the BMW comfort seat, then try it 👍
Ride safe,
Scott
where did you find gel/visco cover?
Just checked out the Wunderlich Komfort seat...390 plus postage.... Has anyone tried it? Looks very well made but a 400 euro risk if itys not right...
The previous owner put it, but shouldn't be difficult to find a place that does it.
Even some BMW dealers send you directly to them when you buy an F900.
I was thinking about buying the wunderlich seat and try it, as they have a 60 day return policy and, if I don't like it 400€-much, just return it.
I would like to suggest a review on the "new" airbag vests, mainly the Dainese smart jacket and Alpinestars Tech Air 5. Thank you, great videos!
Cool. Do you use ACF50 on your bike?
Are you looking above the windscreen in the high position ? How tall are you ?
Yes, 5'10"
Wish sells this spoiler (Also in silver / red) for like $45,- with 3 weeks shipping time!
I noticed that a larger windshield makes visor on my helmet fog-up due to reduced air flow. Also it created a lot of buffeting noise. I fixed the buffeting by adding an adjustable windshield spoiler, which however reduced airflow even more and increased fogging up. Maybe buying a different helmet with larger vents might help...
Are you wearing a heated vest or liner? Do you review winter riding gear?
Heated vest only when it's really cold, when it's getting close to freezing. Na, I have not done a video on riding gear, I don't think I have the audience for it yet, nor do I have the variety of gear to do a good video imho.
I have the MRA screen on my 750GS at the moment but not having much success. I like the look but it’s too narrow, the wind over the top is fine and I can ride with my visor up at speed. However the wind comes off the sides and hits me both sides of the helmet making for a very noisy ride. I also have the Puig touring screen, it wasn’t much better but what an ugly screen. Plan to try the Powerbronze next, I’m going to have a whole collection of different screens sitting around the garage hopefully one of them will work.
I'm the same, had most success with Powerbronze.
I have a F850GS and tried the puig, buffeting was treble. If you find a good solution, please let me know. Thanks in advance.
@@ray8328 the powerbronze screen with a slight kick up on the top edge seems to be ok. Although, I have only ridden once with it at 'motorway!' speeds.
@@mickmacman Hope it's twice as good as the Givi, it's twice the price...
Thank you very much for the MRA info review. Where can I purchase the MRA Windshield with the spoiler attachment?
Just google "MRA Windscreen" and it will pull up offers in your country. For example I ordered directly from MRA, (mrashop.de) because I'm in Germany.
Ride safe,
Scott
I have one on my V Strom and find it helps although kinda distracting
It is kind of odd looking.
Hi Scott, which make of heated vest do you use please?
I might have missed it. But how is the Comfort seat.
man that was easy its always cool to ad new things to the bike I have a the mra screen for the MT-10 gonna see if they have a spoiler for it
I had the MRA and then got one from ebay for 30$. Works the same :)
Thank you....pretty nice review!
Thanks for the video 🙏
Very helpful. Thank you.
did you ask what year the spoiler was coming?
LOL! it came in January! so 21! AND not 20, when I ordered it in April!
Could I have the link of your cool screw driver, please?
Oh, that's just a cheap multi-purpose screw driver with multiple heads that I picked up at the local hard ware store. There is no name brand on it (probably from china). I think it was like 10 euros or something like that.
@@NothingToProve Thank you for your reply!
Mine touched the paint, I had to put some plastic protection on there
Nice stuff, great review and it looks good too! 👍
Where did you buy that nice topcase?
BMW
Ktm 1090 Adventure S, anyone solved the buffeting issues?
I bought Givi Windshield from Motostorm.it around USD76
Did you check your junk folder for givi registration?
Yep, of course.
Your funniest yet!
Very informative review... thanks! How about a brief review of your luggage? 👍
I have same side cases on my f900xr and am really dissapointed with them... Look good but compared to my Versys 650 cases they are way to small and unusable and I can't even fit my schubert in the right case. Have Givi Trekkker 52 as top case, I need more than the 30l BMW one...
Absolutely superb channel Scott... keep up the amazing reviews... looking for a touring screen for my XR... stay safe...
Very good initiative! Too little is mentioned about screens as it makes a huge difference depending on your lenght! Important on longer trips. Tried MRA and now a Puig as the stock screen on Ktm’s big adventures are bad when you’re 1,95 m. Now I’ll watch your vid! 😀