Meditation: I Am That Which Knows
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.พ. 2020
- In this meditation we are guided to become aware that 'I' is the continuous element of all experience and that this 'I' knows itself simply by being itself.
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Wow just imagine, back in the old days you'd have to travel a whole entire village, find a library or find some scrolls, or having to find a master willing to teach you what he knows.. . Now we can just find knowledge right in front of us. Idk if this is good or bad, but we gotta use it wisely. Thanks for the amazing videos.
You're 100% correct. It IS one of the few entirely GOOD things of these times. ❤
Astonishingly clear and potent pointers to on'es essential nature without the trappings of Guru gazing as though the jewel above all jewels is somewhere other than one's very self. Thank you Rupert.
Thank you Rupert you are a blessing!!
After many years of studying Tibetan Buddh’ism’, I discovered your videos and meditation sessions on TH-cam a while ago. I caught myself copying the links to - what I planned - the most essential videos, because everything felt like one big door-opening, so clear, so simple, so ‘down to earth’. The problem is, that I find myself copying the link to about every video and this one will go on top of the list again. After having now more than 100 links in my ‘essential video’ file, I might as well accept that every video you share is ‘essential’. Thank you so much for opening all these doors, for being the open door. 🙏🏻
I can relate to that!
Thank you
Wah wah Aha aha wonderful understanding dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude Rupertspira dhanyabad
Thank you. I was in need of a teacher that were speaking with the clarity that you are. It shows that you really know what you are talking about. I'm in need myself in knowing things, as clear as possible. I've had psychosises, and after my awakening I started to try to find out truths about reality. You are helping me see what's real and I'm really grateful! Much love to you rupert, and thank you for the services you provide.
Thank you Rupert what you said at the beginning touched me I have been in physical and emotional pain for too long
Thank you 🙏🏼 great start to my morning and day
Find really peace after watching ur video... Hatss off sir
This teaching takes my being into Nirvana!
I’m so grateful for your daily wisdom. 🙏
Thank you for this experience, it is greatly appreciated! :)
🙏🏾🧡 I was there. What a blissful contemplation! ☺️
Thank you, Rupert.
Hvala ( Thank you ) 🙏🏻💖
Excellent Explanation as always🙏🙏🙏
Wow..."happiness must be its consequence..." that's a realization in and of itself...
Thank you for leaving us high and dry, obviously happiness wasn't the consequence of this meditation.
Tears of joy
Thank you 🤗♥️
My master 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great video Rupert!!
That I am that which is, is prior to what I am and who I am and is that from which they arise and that to which they return. What I am currently is embodied as a human being. Who I am changes with time place and circumstance. Only that I am that which is remains constant throughout all experience.
It seems asking the question 'how do you know your experience' is a trick question for there isn't a knower to know. There is only relentlessly emergence as brain activity. But in asking the question and waiting and waiting and waiting there is the possibility of silence.
Even more powerful than the words I am are the words I am not.
The Neti neti
I am not this nor that.
Yes I agree. Of course I feel the logical conclusion is that one cannot say anything about oneself. Even what they aren’t.
If I deny all about me, then I become the denier. I can not deny myself as the denier. So I become the denier. BUT.
We also know nothing can act upon itself. Fire can’t burn itself, a hand can’t grab itself etc.
So the denier can’t deny himself. But denies everything else. Seems like we’ve wrapped this up.
But now that I know I am a denier, I also become the knower. Because I know that I deny. But now I can’t know that I am the knower/denier because that would be something that acts on itself.
So now that I can’t know that I know, or that I deny, what am I?
Rupert!!!!!!!!! I finally got it! Thank you so much 🙏 self inquiry is the direct path ❤️❤️❤️
Love to read as often i can "The Enclosed Garden of the Truth" of Hakim Sanai. My best regards to you Rupert
an enlightenment gives realization of "I", as an eternal and empty consciousness, after what, another parts of "I" -body, thinking, an intellect, feelings, senses are visible as temporary and according to nature, empty too. an enlightened "I" don't worry more on itself, living in feeling - eyes see, ears hear and nothing more. thinking becomes not necessary function and no discussion more, naturally.
Makes me ponder if ny time spent listening to Mooji was worth the squeeze. They both say similar things, but mooji is more mystical. And Rupert more contemporary and linear.
Maybe they marry up well. Thoughts?
in the 80s there was a motivational speaker named Dennis Waitly. I was just a young kid, but my mom bought me his cassette tapes on ‘winning’. They were pretty good for the 80s. He asked: how do you know?
Some was insulted today, I was happy just as I am and someone was surprisingly offended, even asked, "is your life so f*****g happy is it?" I said, " happy is who I am, not what i do!"
While Rupert says we cannot stand back and know ourselves as an object, which I understand, and which is true of course, we can see a reflection of ourselves in the mind. Yes, we are the pure consciousness or awareness, but as long as we are with the mind, the light of the consciousness that we are, can be seen lighting up the mind.
The ever persistent struggle I have is how does one move from intellectually fully understanding this enquiry - to the realisation. Why do I seem to understand Intellectually I am the awareness behind all that I am but not realise it. How does one transcend from understanding which is (thought based) of which I am aware to the realisation 😶 !
By rejecting the mind completly in its quest. Its holding onto mind that prevents the clear sight of your truth.
Use thoughts and mind to enquire. Like the stick used to ignite the self and understanding. Once the stick has been used. Your self will burn the question or stick in its own fire of truth.
Hope this helps.
Yes my conscious presence is always there but it doesn’t follow that it will still be there after the body dies.
"I am" knows but the problem starts when "I" leaves "am" and merges with experience that leads to "I experience". Most of us live in "I experience" and seek for "experience".
When I was at University in Kent in the 1980s, my theology lecturer Leon Schlamm actually was a follower of Gurdjeff so he did hint at "what is it that knows?" to me and his other students.
But to be fair he never asked the question directly..
Very deep and thoughtful look at the question : "Who am I?"
Contemplating that question always brings peace to my being/consciousness.
Do you have to make a little effort to remwmber and not forget that you are that which knows or is it totally effortless and natural?
How do you know that our being is unborn, eternal, unchangeable. Or who or what is that that knows that ?
It becomes obvious that there's no place to go.
It's so simple that its very hard to be noticed ...
I love Rupert's teachings about non-duality but it is interesting to me that Descartes' dualistic theory was based on I doubt (or I think), therefore I am. He concluded that the mind and body were separate and that reason was the source of knowledge rather than the experience of the senses.
No flowers , the render of experience wasn’t finished :P
It's part of the teaching. You have to accept the absence of flowers. It's challenging I know.
Alex Shailer , but the flowers are more exiting then seeing your true self :/
Dashamastvamasi(you're the 10th- ) :) my favourite story
I love crickets ❤️
I Am That Which Knows Which Implies Not Knowing.
To me only brain makes experience knowable
The I defines itself in the exprience ....when I let's go of dualities which defines itself that's non duality then I doesn't exist ... then there is tranquility inner peace ... as well god bless
Dont know for others but for me the discovering of my Self, or I, is totally unfamiliar and exotic, exceptional. Not like Rupert here says
i dont know why i understand your words even though that words sounds a pure insanity
Wow
The trouble is that there doesn’t need to be something that is ‘aware of’ the aspects of what we call experience.
Aware of them? In what way? That it sees yellow when looking at a yellow paper placed near the eyes? If it’s just the fact of seeing yellow, then there’s just the fact of yellow, no need for anything extra to be aware of it. Being arising as yellow. To be yellow, amongst other aspects such as feeling, sound etc.
What does it mean to be ‘aware of’ some aspect of experience? If it’s not the fact of any of the changing aspects of sound vision etc, then what is it?
Being can be yellow, red, a certain taste, sounds. Being IS these things.
Awareness if it exists ultimately has to be a form of being because being is all that is possible. Everything has to be or otherwise it just is not present at all. Being is infinite and is therefore everything that is.
So it’s not ‘awareness of’ it is ‘potential to be x’ and to have x as part of the field or space of your being. When we remove all the elements there’s simply energy with the potential to arise as blue or some sound or whatever. Also the energy has the potential to filter out the being of other apparent people with their unique experience.
The separation of being and being ‘aware of’ is a false division. There is no such thing as awareness, there’s just being arising as vision, sounds, tastes, apparent space, emotions.
Being doesn’t need something to be aware of it. It is one fact in and of itself and thus so is yellow or any particular taste or sound. These are just what it is to be what we are.
You can also exercise the same deconstruction with the term "being". All you're left with then is something called an "infinite regression". It is a lingual situation. As is your, respectively Rupert's starting points. So it's just words pointing more or less awkwardly at silence.
If you have a term you use for what you yourself mean by say yellow, there’s no deconstruction. There’s simply the symbol and what points to.
All you need do is understand the simple fact of what being is symbolising and then you understand my whole point.
Rupert is using language which not only can we deconstruct but we can actually see is unnecessary unhelpful, false and misleading.
Awareness is none sense.
Silence is golden lol.
Mellow Birds ever seen the delayed double slit experiment? Being aware makes a lot of difference , but you do have a point because with out it , it also changes everything. I still can’t figure it out but i just wanted to point it out to you.
JP Mantz
Well I’ll talk to anyone even if it’s really just a someone lol. Yes I’ve heard a lot about quantum mechanical phenomena. But the thing to remember is that these are facts which really demonstrate just how false the impression of 3D space with material. Talk of extra dimensions and particle positions doesn’t have any relevance other than to indicate that we don’t really know what something like vision is. We try to explain vision using extracts from vision but that doesn’t tell us what vision itself is. Do you see what I mean?
Mellow Birds yes i see what you mean.
Nisargadatta was quite clear that I Am is an arising and that by staying with the I Am it will eventually be transcended......."I am that which knows I Am".........in other words
I Am is "known" and, as such, it is an object, albeit a very subtle object. There is no I Am in deep, dreamless sleep. The reason you know that you've slept well is an inference; you wake up feeling refreshed, therefore you must have slept well. "I" as the knowing subject of all objects is still dualistic. What Rupert seems to be talking about is self-realisation which is very different to, say, Jim Newman or Tony Parsons, where there is no self, no awareness, simply what is happening. See th-cam.com/video/A1VKC1N5L6A/w-d-xo.html&t=4612 for Tony Parsons' take on Rupert.
David Janssen interesting I do find when Spira talks about God that he makes very little sense - as Tony says in that snippet. My take on these meditations is that Rupert has what he calls the “inward facing path” and the “outward facing path” and the latter is not dualistic and the former is but is a necessary step. This video is part of the inward facing path. Do you have a take on that?
@@augmentedphallus4596 I'm with Krishnamurti when he said "truth is a pathless land". It seems to me that the 'path' is only discernible with hindsight, we can look back and see where the footprints were but we have no idea where the next step will land until it lands. From the perspective of awareness there is no inner or outer, but that's OK as a provisional teaching of the gradual path. For me the stumbling block is 'I' or 'I Am'. For a long time I've felt that 'I Am', as a pointer, is way too concrete. What's noticed is a sense of being, or existence. There is 'Aming' or Being, but no I is necessary for that......... So 'who' has a sense of being? Fred Davis is quite clear on this....try "I Am is the first story" th-cam.com/video/tuW4A_G4P5w/w-d-xo.html
David, you are exactly correct. The “I”, as a “Knowing I” is the deluded egoic self illusion. This has always been Ruperts failure.
If we really want to completely avoid speaking in dualistic language, we have to remain silent.
I wonder why he says, "Nothing spiritual" when referring to our True Nature....to me it's the pinnacle of spirituality it-"Self" !!
These men didn't take math in school? They also didn't know each other either, look around and recognize the faces, you don't even need to count, if they didn't know each other either it seems odd that they would have such a sad reaction. Or maybe they were just sad that it was so hard to cross the river and find nothing new on the other side, that's depressing for sure.
If window is dirty you cannot see the street. It is impossible. Because of the dirt. It is a fact. First you must clean the dirt. Rupert already cleaned his dirt in his past lives. So in this life he achieved his goal. Now he speaks for humans who already cleaned themselves. They will benefit from him. But this is only a tiny percentage of people who listen to him. If waters of the ocean of subconsciousness are dirty and strong wind of prana is blowing and there are titanic waves there because of wind, no one can remember himself no matter how hard he tries. First dirt must be cleaned, wind subside and waters calm down. Then one can benefit from Rupert. This knowledge is not for everyone. Rupert must warn against this. Not everyone can do these things no matter how hard he tries or how attentively he listens. One thing detaching himself from a wave of 1sm, another thing from a wave of 20 meters. Also people having gigantic waves are weakest in will, knowledge and everything. So tell me how on earth will they do this? Why they waste their time listening to him, when they can engage in cleaning proceses.
Agreed, but most non-dualist simply ignore this by saying that it is so simple that even people whose minds are absolutely a mess can do it as well. Of course, when they say that they are referring to their own experience and presume that it is such for all others since it was relatively effortless for them.
@@nzsombor13 It isnt effortless for anyone! Why Titans like Sw. Sivananda of Risikesh, Ramana Maharshi did so difficult austerities? If Ramana acieved his goal why then he did so much austerities in ashram? Today 99% who claim to achieved anything actually dont have anything tangible in their hands. It is God himself dreaming. And to wake up you must be God already. Because only God can wake up. Dreamed caracter cannot wake up.
philosophy ( foolosophy ) is for fools - osho