AMAX i still dont see it i never knocked dude as a player i think he will be a good defender good passer but i dont understand this "great" or "transcended" talk i just don't lol
Lonzo having a C+ at best right now but he will be an A type player in the future he has so many unteachable things he does you can tell his IQ is insane for his age an 10,7,7 for a rookie aint no damn D if that was any other rookie people would give him at least the a C
nba 2kking lebrons rookie season had way more pressure placed on it and he was infinitely better as a rookie on a worse team. You can’t say (skip says) “he has had the highest degree of difficulty” when bron literally was called the chosen one from the very being. If bron in his rookie year played like Lonzo has played it would have been called an F.
^ This. It's seriously ridiculous people will point out players and say "They impact the game in other ways besides scoring" not only is he getting 7 rebs and 7 asts, he has 1.5 steals and nearly a block a game. The shooting will improve. This is his first season. This is coming from a Celtics fan. Give the kid another year or so. He'll be fine.
Y’all are crazy thinking people hating! He’s the no.2 pick in the national basketball association! He’s SUPPOSED to be playing better. That’s just simple facts. Then you compare him to other one-and-done rookies and he’s still not playing how he should be. Stay calm and watch him grow if you think he WILL be Magic Johnson, but y’all need to calm it with the fake news attitudes ☺️
Maq IS he's forced too grow up fast in Boston. LA ain't doing nothing, ain't making the post season. So he's been playing on a higher level, better team higher stakes. Lay off Tatum
LoveMusicVideoArt False. If you're drafting players for just one year then yes your argument makes sense. But that's not what teams are drafting for. It's about the upside of a player. Being picked second doesn't mean that a player should be expected to play well out the gate. Conditioning, off the court adjustments, team role and alot of other things play into how a rookie looks out there. It takes time!
Maq IS you are so wrong um let bring up some other rookies that better than lonzo kuzma,lauri from the bulls,Smith jr you can also argue if Fox is better also bogdan and josh Jackson but those first 3 I just mentioned are better than lonzo
MURRAY RHYMES WITH CURRY Yeah D is a bit harsh but he's been far from great. He has no midrange game and only has floaters and 3pt shot (which he shoots 30% from) in his scoring arsenal. He plays with little aggression, his off the ball movement is TERRIBLE (he just stands in the corner). And yeah when you FT% is lower than most centers that doesn't help either.
I will say this: Lonzo Ball fans are probably the most statical savvy fans in the NBA. Ya'll be pulling crazy stats out the air the prove this kids greatness. Lonzo Ball fans be like: He the youngest player in the NBA to have the highest defensive efficiency rating out anybody drafted on Tuesday as the #2 or #7 pick in the last 13 seasons. He's decent though. Easily top 40 PG in the NBA
Ball 10.2, 7.1, 7.2 Tatum 13.5, 5.1, 1.4 Simmons 16.8, 7.8, 7.4 Mitchell 19.5, 3.6, 3.4 Fox 11.3, 2.6, 3.4 Jackson 11.3, 4.2, 1.2 Smith 14.8, 3.9, 4.9 Lonzo ain't that bad or maybe the whole class might get a D after all???
I give him a C- based on his rebounds, assists, and inconsistencies, and because he missed six weeks so it isn't fair to grade him completely after missing a ton of games.
Lonzo Ball is having a real good year if not for his injury we might be talking about him as rookie of the Year. The way this guy throws that ball is amazing as fast as he throws it he doesn't hesitant to pass
Back in his espn days Skip said the triple double is the most overrated stat in all of basketball but now he gives props to Lonzo for two of them so far smh.
People talk about lonzo rebounds but with the way the NBA is structured now any one can get rebounds. If it were not for his father with his numbers we wouldn't be talking about lonzo. But it's not fair to condemn him because not every players blossoms at the same rate. Look at who coached him up and we all know his daddy is more business man that coach but kudos to him.
carlos harris “anyone can get rebounds” uhhhh yeah it’s always been that way. Just sg’s and pg’s are much taller and more athletic in the current nba compared to the old nba
Shannon is a Lonzo hater. The last 15 games before he got injured, he was averaging 12, 7 & 7 on 40% shooting from 3. He was improving. How can Shannon expect a 20 year old to lead the youngest team in the league to a lot of wins in the Western Conference? If it wasn’t for Lavar, Lonzo wouldn’t be getting all this hate, it ain’t fair
How bout breaking it down. Lonzo Defense grade A+, rebounding A+, passing A+, shooting a D. It was an F but he picked it up since mid December. Only way you give him a D or lower is cuz of bias
Honestly I'm not even a huge Lonzo fan, just a fan of the NBA and I think Lonzo is having one of the best rookie seasons I've ever seen. He has future superstar written all over him plus he is highly marketable
I give him a C+ because for a 2nd pick who’s offensive game wasn’t this bad in college he’s underperforming but at the same token he’s one of the best defensive rookies rn & is also averaging 7 rebounds & 7 assists.. Only thing holding him back is his shooting
I'll give him a B- as a rookie he's been good the people who bash him bring up his shooting and have no other argument but can't stand to talk about his other numbers
Jeremiah Scott because his shooting percentages are just that bad. not a little bad. but record breaking bad. he's on pace to have the worst percentages in NBA history.
Ok here's my argument why he's not a B-. He has no midrange game and only has floaters and 3pt shot (which he shoots 30% from) in his scoring arsenal. He plays with little aggression, his off the ball movement is TERRIBLE (he just stands in the corner). And yeah when you FT% is lower than most centers that doesn't help either. He's not a D but he's definitely not a B-.
Lonzo deserves a B-/B With the potential this year to be much higher. Lonzo has been really good in every aspect except his shooting this season. His defense, Rebounding and passing has been excellent
Shannon:“Those numbers might be even worse if he wasn‘t injured.“ Before his injuries Lonzo averaged 14 ppg, 7.5Apg, 7.5Rpg, 1.5SPG, 1BPG on 40% shooting from 3 and around 44% shooting from the field.
Once Lonzo get his shot together he’s gonna be unstoppable I wish people would get that thru their head and Shannon don’t like zo because of what Lavar said about him 😂😂
He’s a solid starter at best not even close to an Allstars he will ever be. Delusional idiots. There’s a bunch of other rookies that were picked after him that have much higher potential and playing better
GIVE THIS MAN TIME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! 10-7-7 is pretty damn good for a rookie and his shooting was slowly progressing before he got injured. RELAX SHANNON
Lonzo just came back to play last night against the Mavs, and he made a big, big, big difference in improving the team's overall play. You can see the obvious boost in confidence and just better team play with Lonzo in there. Who cares about his numbers right now! Lonzo and IT look like a very, very good combination together.
A: rookie of the year candidate (20-7-5ish) B: great (15-6-4ish) C: average (10-5-3ish) D: barely off the bench (6-5-2ish) F: forever benched (2-2-1ish) He’s a C.
As a Lakers fan...........C. I do appreciate the 7.1 RPG and 7.1 APG though. That's impressive. Maybe I'm being kinda nice but....eh idk haha. Point is he gotta be way better if ppl like Skip wants him to be transcendent...
Russell Westbrook’s rookie numbers were 8.3 PPG 4.1 assists and 3.2 rebounds. He also shot 32% from the field. Now he’s an mvp and one of the best point guards in the NBA
Lonzo has potential but he hasn’t lived up to the hype. The funny thing is the lakers are playing better and Brandon Ingram is playing better basketball at the point guard position
C -Makes his team better and ok numbers -Terrible percentages -Defense better then my expectations -Hurt a little bit too much All in all a pretty good rookie year obviously could be better. Hopefully improves those percentages in the second half of the season and stays healthy.
In the long-term, Lonzo Ball will be the best rookie of the 2017 draft. I can't wait to see him fill out to get his dad's frame and get stronger (and possibly grow taller).
He’s a solid B-... he can’t shoot but he contributes. Just bc he isn’t the best in his class doesn’t mean he can’t improve... also has an all around game better than most rookies when we KNEW he wasn’t going to be
Skip's wrong. Zo's got upside. But he doesn't look like a franchise cornerstone as of yet. Brandon, though. All BI needs is time, a better off hand dribble, and for the franchise to sign off on him as the point guard. The guy's special.
If it ain’t LeBron everyone sucks according to Shannon. The biggest LeBron rider ever. Ball is a pass first guard and he’s averaging 7apg which is 3-4 more than those other rookie PG.
10 7 7 with great defense as a rookie is great! Dennis smith? Can he defend? Markannen? Defense? Tatum is nice Mitchell scores high every time so he makes up
Lonzo is a pretty decent nba player Whose a streaky shooter and a great passer. But, I think everyone can agree that is ceiling is a lot lower than we originally thought
The kid just turned 20 years old, 2nd pick overall playing for his hometown Lakers, the most storied franchise in basketball. That combined with the constant media pressure, his dad's antics, and all the other family issues he's had, this kid STILL averages 10 points, leads his team in assists and rebounds, and no matter who you ask is already one of the better (best?) passing point guards in the league. All this criticism is becoming pathetic.
So sick of these analysts talking about his shooting like we were expecting him to be the next steph... He is a PG and we tend to forget what a true pg is today
the problem is, if you're a pass-first guy like a nash or stockton, in order for that to work people have to fear your shot. if they're perfectly happy to let you shoot the ball, it makes stopping your playmaking much easier.
The ONLY Bad Thing They Can Say About Lonzo Is His Shooting Percentage Smh What Do These Other Rookies Have In Common? They All Surrounded By Better, Veteran Players So Of Course Their Numbers Are Going To Be Better.
Lol “you look at shaq, you look at Jordan with the third pick in the draft” the guys mentioning all time greats and only listed 2 guys and the list stopped. 10, 7 & 7 first season is pretty solid. I thought he was gonna be a rondo type player and that’s exactly how he’s been playing, if he stays at that level he’ll have a solid nba career as a starting pg. he’s a point guard, what’s he expecting from him? 20+ ppg? That’s his game? Assists, triple doubles, play making and if you can get over 15 ppg from him than it’s a bonus. How are you gonna compare him to Jordan or shaq when those guys biggest strength were ppg and scoring. Sharpes an idiot
its not about him being 10-7-7, thats alright but its being outweighed by the fact that hes a point guard who can't put the ball in the basket. Literally the worst shooter in the nba and how does a PG have worse FT% than shaq. When your starting point guard has to be subbed out of 4th quarters because hes an offensive liability you know you have an issue.
I think Lonzo will be ok. Lots of pressure on him because of his father's rants how great he is. He is under the media microscope. He sneezes wrong, it's news. My only complaint is his free throw shooting. That's something that he should be way better at.
Top 10 in assist out of all players. More assist than Kyrie, Steph, Lowry, Lillard, Oladipo, Mitchell . More rebounds than KD, Lillard, Steph, Kyrie, Demar, Kemba, pozingas, PG13, Jimmy Butler, Klay, Mitchell. As a rookie...
To answer your question Skip: LeBron was took his talents to South Beach because after 7 years in CLE and giving his absolute everything and making them a relevant contender all by himself, Dan Gilbert would not get LeBron even one single co-star while Bron was having to constantly battle 2 stars and Big 3’s.
Lonzo is a good rookie and will be just fine. It's just that this draft class is really talented and other rookies just adjust quicker. You need to physically watch the games to see this kids point guard and passing potential and he husltes on rebounds. For once agree with skip. 10/7/7 B- is good enough for now.
Shannon Sharpe rating system: LeBron James: A+++, 104/100 ez extra credit Everyone else: C Players with dislikable family members: D Players I don't like: F
i say solid C. maybe a C+. his shot is bad but it's improving. at one point, he led his team in assists, rebounds, blocks, and steals. that shows that he can be productive on offense and defense. when/if his shot improves, he'll be at a B+ to an A but as of now, a C
Once the season is over, the next stage of his career truly begins. He needs to get various expert trainers to come and help him reconstruct his shooting form and jump-shot, strengthen his entire body, improve his cardio and energy, tighten his handles, develop hesitation moves, and work like mad on improving his athleticism and explosion. Also needs to make his arms and legs really much stronger. Also needs to improve his left hand/arm. He’s got his work cut out.
His rookie year isn't over. He's been hurt. All you want is for him to command the offense, regardless of his feelings of a coach. If he wants everything based upon his way as a rookie, he's going to have to get over that, unless he has 100% word from Magic Johnson on how this thing will go. We'll see what they do with Luke Walton in the off season but Lonzo just needs to get healthy, command the offense, learn how to win games, and enable his team as an asset not a liability. His grade is a D+ so far.
What do you think about Lonzo's rookie season so far?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED C-
He’s having a solid rookie year. He’s a rookie, he has so much time to grow
He gets an F!!! Kobe,KG and LeBron had more pressure they were straight outta High School!!!
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED D+
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED c-
I'll give him a BBB+
Yo Mammas Boo BBB positive
😂😂😂 stop stealing demarvelous derozan joke u fraud
That was funny.
Yo Mammas Boo does BBB means Big Baller Bust?
I'll give him a BBC tbh
I'm going to give Lonzo a C thus far, but he can be really good, even great, but only time will tell.
AMAX yeah C is fair. Slow start but was picking it up. Def needs to practice his shoot though
AMAX i still dont see it i never knocked dude as a player i think he will be a good defender good passer but i dont understand this "great" or "transcended" talk i just don't lol
Cmon man you really think he can be great?? You even watching lakers games? Yes I’m a laker fan...but I’m a realist first.
D+
C is very fair but I do not believe he will be a grade A player. I hope he can be as good as Anfernee Hardway who was another tall PG.
Lonzo having a C+ at best right now but he will be an A type player in the future he has so many unteachable things he does you can tell his IQ is insane for his age an 10,7,7 for a rookie aint no damn D if that was any other rookie people would give him at least the a C
Super saiyan Cabby28 in 2018 your starting PG has to be a scorer as well as a good Passet
A Trap no bruh an on top of that lonzo will average at least 15-20 while giving you near double digits in rebounds an assists
Those stars would be a C for a rookie that plays 20-25 minutes. Not leading his team in minutes when he played
Super saiyan Cabby28 great comment
Super saiyan Cabby28 agreed
I’m confused on why they never mention his last 17 games where he was shooting 45% from the field and 39% from three while avg 14/7/7
Because it was a fluke
Well, it's not like they watch an entire bball game that isn't mainstream....they are clueless
Because he played more then 17 games
because he played way more games than 17
Exactly, their grading the first half NOT 17 games..
Why are they having whole segments on Lonzo instead of Sean Lee??
Emmpeccable Eats damm queen your gorgeous
Why him???
who is that?
Because nobody knows him?
Why not a segment on cookies and milk?
I never thought I'd agree with Skip over Shannon smh
Why are u comparing a rookie to LeBron give the man time
everyone was comparing Lebron to MJ since he was in high school...it comes with the territory when people are calling someone a "transcendent" player
nba 2kking lebrons rookie season had way more pressure placed on it and he was infinitely better as a rookie on a worse team. You can’t say (skip says) “he has had the highest degree of difficulty” when bron literally was called the chosen one from the very being. If bron in his rookie year played like Lonzo has played it would have been called an F.
nba 2kking they basically had the same level of expectations rookie year so yeah it’s fair
Vintage Monte we were watching Lebron in his Senior Year thinking he’s gonna be special , Lonzo had way less pressure
Lonzo’s Dad is the one who is comparing him to the greats
I give him a B because he is averaging 7 rebs and 7 ast as a rookie. Once his shot start falling I don't want to see you haters no more.
Folesadelphia, Wentzsylvania I agree
^ This. It's seriously ridiculous people will point out players and say "They impact the game in other ways besides scoring" not only is he getting 7 rebs and 7 asts, he has 1.5 steals and nearly a block a game. The shooting will improve. This is his first season. This is coming from a Celtics fan. Give the kid another year or so. He'll be fine.
Y’all are crazy thinking people hating! He’s the no.2 pick in the national basketball association! He’s SUPPOSED to be playing better. That’s just simple facts. Then you compare him to other one-and-done rookies and he’s still not playing how he should be. Stay calm and watch him grow if you think he WILL be Magic Johnson, but y’all need to calm it with the fake news attitudes ☺️
What's the first pick doing?
Maq IS he's forced too grow up fast in Boston. LA ain't doing nothing, ain't making the post season. So he's been playing on a higher level, better team higher stakes. Lay off Tatum
LoveMusicVideoArt False. If you're drafting players for just one year then yes your argument makes sense. But that's not what teams are drafting for. It's about the upside of a player. Being picked second doesn't mean that a player should be expected to play well out the gate. Conditioning, off the court adjustments, team role and alot of other things play into how a rookie looks out there. It takes time!
Maq IS you are so wrong um let bring up some other rookies that better than lonzo kuzma,lauri from the bulls,Smith jr you can also argue if Fox is better also bogdan and josh Jackson but those first 3 I just mentioned are better than lonzo
Maq IS if you switch players which team ends up better ?
C- full of injury and inconsistencies but not bad enough for a D.
MURRAY RHYMES WITH CURRY Yeah D is a bit harsh but he's been far from great. He has no midrange game and only has floaters and 3pt shot (which he shoots 30% from) in his scoring arsenal. He plays with little aggression, his off the ball movement is TERRIBLE (he just stands in the corner). And yeah when you FT% is lower than most centers that doesn't help either.
100% agree
I will say this: Lonzo Ball fans are probably the most statical savvy fans in the NBA. Ya'll be pulling crazy stats out the air the prove this kids greatness. Lonzo Ball fans be like: He the youngest player in the NBA to have the highest defensive efficiency rating out anybody drafted on Tuesday as the #2 or #7 pick in the last 13 seasons. He's decent though. Easily top 40 PG in the NBA
10 7 7 all the stats you need. good defense. thats a good rookie
Gabe The Great hes top 10 guy not no top 40. Kobe averaged 7 a game his first year.
John Pierre Kobe was deep on the bench tho
Ball 10.2, 7.1, 7.2
Tatum 13.5, 5.1, 1.4
Simmons 16.8, 7.8, 7.4
Mitchell 19.5, 3.6, 3.4
Fox 11.3, 2.6, 3.4
Jackson 11.3, 4.2, 1.2
Smith 14.8, 3.9, 4.9
Lonzo ain't that bad or maybe the whole class might get a D after all???
Fox wasn't a starter since the beginning of the season.
aicalj well that's true, so much pressure
I give him a C- based on his rebounds, assists, and inconsistencies, and because he missed six weeks so it isn't fair to grade him completely after missing a ton of games.
He ain’t passing? He’s averaging 7apg! That’s more than most average PG veterans.
aicalj he is involved enough if he has the same averages as draymond green and same usuage rate he doesn't dribble the ball to sleep
The whole show pls!! Not just the podcast a day later. 1080p full show, get that youtube shmoney!!
Skip’s “MmM” everytime shannon says something absurd is funny lmfao
Lonzo Ball is having a real good year if not for his injury we might be talking about him as rookie of the Year. The way this guy throws that ball is amazing as fast as he throws it he doesn't hesitant to pass
Back in his espn days Skip said the triple double is the most overrated stat in all of basketball but now he gives props to Lonzo for two of them so far smh.
No he said that cause it applied to Westbrook. He stat pats. And it applies today
People talk about lonzo rebounds but with the way the NBA is structured now any one can get rebounds. If it were not for his father with his numbers we wouldn't be talking about lonzo. But it's not fair to condemn him because not every players blossoms at the same rate. Look at who coached him up and we all know his daddy is more business man that coach but kudos to him.
carlos harris “anyone can get rebounds” uhhhh yeah it’s always been that way. Just sg’s and pg’s are much taller and more athletic in the current nba compared to the old nba
shiiid the lakers cant they need lonzo for those rebounds
Shannon is a Lonzo hater. The last 15 games before he got injured, he was averaging 12, 7 & 7 on 40% shooting from 3. He was improving. How can Shannon expect a 20 year old to lead the youngest team in the league to a lot of wins in the Western Conference? If it wasn’t for Lavar, Lonzo wouldn’t be getting all this hate, it ain’t fair
Jon Swavyy
He's grading the *FIRST HALF* of the season, we are currently in the *2nd Half* of the season.
Lonzo also played more than 15 games
They not talking bout the 15 games they talking about his first half of the season
Cry me a river!
"You tell me" 😂
I give him a C+ nothing special bout his game just another good passer
How bout breaking it down. Lonzo Defense grade A+, rebounding A+, passing A+, shooting a D. It was an F but he picked it up since mid December. Only way you give him a D or lower is cuz of bias
Daniel Munoz that's hella biased
Shannon, you are way off. He started to figure it out then got injured. You can't give him any grade other than INCOMPLETE
Venice Beach Sports Network plzz dog hes so garbage non athlete n worst shooter for a non big in the leauge
Mark Freeman he started making some 3's before he got hurt
Honestly I'm not even a huge Lonzo fan, just a fan of the NBA and I think Lonzo is having one of the best rookie seasons I've ever seen. He has future superstar written all over him plus he is highly marketable
"Mmm"
"Mmmmmm"
"Tell me when its my turn"
~GOAT Bayles.
I give him a C+ because for a 2nd pick who’s offensive game wasn’t this bad in college he’s underperforming but at the same token he’s one of the best defensive rookies rn & is also averaging 7 rebounds & 7 assists.. Only thing holding him back is his shooting
I'll give him a B- as a rookie he's been good the people who bash him bring up his shooting and have no other argument but can't stand to talk about his other numbers
Jeremiah Scott ikr he been playing pretty well he is what I pretty much expected
Jeremiah Scott B- is a little high for me. His shooting percentage is bad and his defense isn’t amazing. For a Rookie it’s like either a C or a C-
Jeremiah Scott because his shooting percentages are just that bad. not a little bad. but record breaking bad. he's on pace to have the worst percentages in NBA history.
Elijah arvinger if you're going to try to form proper sentences to make points at least capitalize after periods
Ok here's my argument why he's not a B-. He has no midrange game and only has floaters and 3pt shot (which he shoots 30% from) in his scoring arsenal. He plays with little aggression, his off the ball movement is TERRIBLE (he just stands in the corner). And yeah when you FT% is lower than most centers that doesn't help either. He's not a D but he's definitely not a B-.
Kyle kuzma deserves a A+
Lonzo Ball a solid D
I'm a big Lakers fan, I'll give Zo. a. C+ once the team is complete. This off season additions we can see if he has it.
Lonzo deserves a B-/B With the potential this year to be much higher. Lonzo has been really good in every aspect except his shooting this season. His defense, Rebounding and passing has been excellent
Shannon:“Those numbers might be even worse if he wasn‘t injured.“ Before his injuries Lonzo averaged 14 ppg, 7.5Apg, 7.5Rpg, 1.5SPG, 1BPG on 40% shooting from 3 and around 44% shooting from the field.
Dude is top 10 of active pgs In the league in Rebs, stls, and asts. Let him develop and ball out. No pun intended.to
Once Lonzo get his shot together he’s gonna be unstoppable I wish people would get that thru their head and Shannon don’t like zo because of what Lavar said about him 😂😂
AlmightyTaka. What lavar said about Shannon?
Unstoppable? LMFAOO he has no heart yet, well wait and see, Softer then toilet paper.
Great Start for a rookie. He's not a superstar yet but he definitely will be Shannon sharpe is the biggest hater. Just because Lavar called him fake
Ryan never will be a star, good starter at best. LaVar is a fake, Sharpe just speaking the truth
No lonzo is trash his team played way better without him and Brandon Ingram is a better PG than him
Great start lol come on... his father ruined him before his career started, Tatum is way better
He’s a solid starter at best not even close to an Allstars he will ever be. Delusional idiots. There’s a bunch of other rookies that were picked after him that have much higher potential and playing better
Ryan true
Skip killed him in that last few minutes with the 2 max players comment 😂
GIVE THIS MAN TIME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! 10-7-7 is pretty damn good for a rookie and his shooting was slowly progressing before he got injured. RELAX SHANNON
Lonzo just came back to play last night against the Mavs, and he made a big, big, big difference in improving the team's overall play. You can see the obvious boost in confidence and just better team play with Lonzo in there. Who cares about his numbers right now! Lonzo and IT look like a very, very good combination together.
Lonzo is the most valuable player on the lakers and makes his teammates look much better. Those aren’t empty stats I give him a C+
A: rookie of the year candidate (20-7-5ish)
B: great (15-6-4ish)
C: average (10-5-3ish)
D: barely off the bench (6-5-2ish)
F: forever benched (2-2-1ish)
He’s a C.
As a Lakers fan...........C. I do appreciate the 7.1 RPG and 7.1 APG though. That's impressive. Maybe I'm being kinda nice but....eh idk haha. Point is he gotta be way better if ppl like Skip wants him to be transcendent...
Russell Westbrook’s rookie numbers were 8.3 PPG 4.1 assists and 3.2 rebounds. He also shot 32% from the field. Now he’s an mvp and one of the best point guards in the NBA
B he's averaging 10 7 7 hes lead his team in rebounding and assist and changed the culture there
I give him an "L"
Nigel Verdell L
Yeah because his name is “L”onzo!
L for Lonzo!!!!
Nah a z
Skip said, "Im gonna give him a B-" and almost started laughing at hmself... lol
Lonzo Ball C+ on a HUGE curve✌🏓🏒🏏🏑🎳🎱🎾🏉🏈🏐⚾️⚽️🏀⬅️BALLS
Shannon killing me 🤣🤣🤣 "SKIPPPP STOP"
Lonzo has potential but he hasn’t lived up to the hype. The funny thing is the lakers are playing better and Brandon Ingram is playing better basketball at the point guard position
He averaging a damn near triple double?
shooting like 35%
#Dubnation that was in the beginning of the season. So far he shoots above 40% now let’s see how he does when he comes back.
J Jordan ben simmons is better
Ben Simmons is 7 feet with ball handling skills I hope so for him buth he better work on that jumper he scared for his life to take one!
sjaak verduijn at least he knows not to shoot.
C
-Makes his team better and ok numbers
-Terrible percentages
-Defense better then my expectations
-Hurt a little bit too much
All in all a pretty good rookie year obviously could be better. Hopefully improves those percentages in the second half of the season and stays healthy.
B- grade he literally held our team together and controlled our offense very well. But his shooting is a red light
FACTORY!!! We got 23 wins this season
They have a better record without him..
In the long-term, Lonzo Ball will be the best rookie of the 2017 draft. I can't wait to see him fill out to get his dad's frame and get stronger (and possibly grow taller).
I'd give it a *BBB-*
He’s a solid B-... he can’t shoot but he contributes. Just bc he isn’t the best in his class doesn’t mean he can’t improve... also has an all around game better than most rookies when we KNEW he wasn’t going to be
I’ll give Lonzo a B+. He’s gonna be a great player. 10pts 7ast 7reb as a rookie. Jason Kidd numbers as a rookie are alike.
cant wait to see what they say about last night | he went 100% in shooting
Skip's wrong. Zo's got upside. But he doesn't look like a franchise cornerstone as of yet. Brandon, though. All BI needs is time, a better off hand dribble, and for the franchise to sign off on him as the point guard. The guy's special.
Leigh Arlington but he wasnt his first year
BI did NOT look like a franchise cornerstone in his first year and neither did Kobe.
The one thing that hurts zo is this draft class was so deep, imagine if Donovan was on the lakers I think they would sneak in the playoffs this year
"No He Can Fill A Space." 😂😂😂 #UncleShan
Skip is hella funny. He hella serious too lmao
lavar ball is the biggest hustler we have seen in nba history! lonzo and the shoplifter are total busts.
samsa deniz huge L
I'd give him a C+/B- as a rookie he's having an ok season gets a lil bump in grade due to keeping his cool despite the craziness of his dad
If it ain’t LeBron everyone sucks according to Shannon. The biggest LeBron rider ever. Ball is a pass first guard and he’s averaging 7apg which is 3-4 more than those other rookie PG.
10 7 7 with great defense as a rookie is great! Dennis smith? Can he defend?
Markannen? Defense?
Tatum is nice
Mitchell scores high every time so he makes up
LakerHead d
Smith having a better season then lonzo
LakerHead tatum, kuzma, Mitchell, Smith, simmons are better than lonzo tbh
He gon be in the same classroom🤣🤣🤣 - Shannon Sharpe
He's going to be great. The only thing he needs to improve is scoring. As far as shot iq & onball/offball movement, it's exceptional
I'd say C+. Lonzo had slow start but was starting to pick it up before his injury.
Lonzo is a pretty decent nba player Whose a streaky shooter and a great passer. But, I think everyone can agree that is ceiling is a lot lower than we originally thought
Easily a B. averaging 7 assists and 7 rebounds as a rookie is crazy.
Damn I never thought I would agree with skip
The kid just turned 20 years old, 2nd pick overall playing for his hometown Lakers, the most storied franchise in basketball. That combined with the constant media pressure, his dad's antics, and all the other family issues he's had, this kid STILL averages 10 points, leads his team in assists and rebounds, and no matter who you ask is already one of the better (best?) passing point guards in the league. All this criticism is becoming pathetic.
I'll give him a c- everybody said he was gonna be great rookie and it backfired.
Just keep watching....
For everybody saying give him time to grow. They are talking about right now! 2:58 if you didn't hear it.
Skiiiiip cmon skiiiip
I don’t get why everybody hates on lonzo. He’s been playing great after a bad stretch and is a top 5 rookie this year.
So sick of these analysts talking about his shooting like we were expecting him to be the next steph... He is a PG and we tend to forget what a true pg is today
the problem is, if you're a pass-first guy like a nash or stockton, in order for that to work people have to fear your shot. if they're perfectly happy to let you shoot the ball, it makes stopping your playmaking much easier.
2:22 'Skip you got to be fucki.. uh uh'
Shannon hating on lonzo and BBB
The ONLY Bad Thing They Can Say About Lonzo Is His Shooting Percentage Smh What Do These Other Rookies Have In Common? They All Surrounded By Better, Veteran Players So Of Course Their Numbers Are Going To Be Better.
B+ for playing the role of a “True Point Guard”
He hasn't played enough. I'll grade his game by this time next season.
Lol “you look at shaq, you look at Jordan with the third pick in the draft” the guys mentioning all time greats and only listed 2 guys and the list stopped. 10, 7 & 7 first season is pretty solid. I thought he was gonna be a rondo type player and that’s exactly how he’s been playing, if he stays at that level he’ll have a solid nba career as a starting pg. he’s a point guard, what’s he expecting from him? 20+ ppg? That’s his game? Assists, triple doubles, play making and if you can get over 15 ppg from him than it’s a bonus. How are you gonna compare him to Jordan or shaq when those guys biggest strength were ppg and scoring. Sharpes an idiot
its not about him being 10-7-7, thats alright but its being outweighed by the fact that hes a point guard who can't put the ball in the basket. Literally the worst shooter in the nba and how does a PG have worse FT% than shaq. When your starting point guard has to be subbed out of 4th quarters because hes an offensive liability you know you have an issue.
I think Lonzo will be ok. Lots of pressure on him because of his father's rants how great he is. He is under the media microscope. He sneezes wrong, it's news. My only complaint is his free throw shooting. That's something that he should be way better at.
Top 10 in assist out of all players. More assist than Kyrie, Steph, Lowry, Lillard, Oladipo, Mitchell . More rebounds than KD, Lillard, Steph, Kyrie, Demar, Kemba, pozingas, PG13, Jimmy Butler, Klay, Mitchell. As a rookie...
4 years later shannon really needs to bring this back up.
He does not get a D. He's still very young, had some really good games as well. He gets a C, averaging 7 rebounds is impressive
To answer your question Skip: LeBron was took his talents to South Beach because after 7 years in CLE and giving his absolute everything and making them a relevant contender all by himself, Dan Gilbert would not get LeBron even one single co-star while Bron was having to constantly battle 2 stars and Big 3’s.
Lonzo is a good rookie and will be just fine. It's just that this draft class is really talented and other rookies just adjust quicker. You need to physically watch the games to see this kids point guard and passing potential and he husltes on rebounds. For once agree with skip. 10/7/7 B- is good enough for now.
Look at his numbers hes doin pretty good
It's a miracle they aren't talking about lebrob
Shannon Sharpe rating system:
LeBron James: A+++, 104/100 ez extra credit
Everyone else: C
Players with dislikable family members: D
Players I don't like: F
That boy garbage
THE DUB lol
Im a big Lonzo fan a C+/B- is the right grade
i say solid C. maybe a C+. his shot is bad but it's improving. at one point, he led his team in assists, rebounds, blocks, and steals. that shows that he can be productive on offense and defense. when/if his shot improves, he'll be at a B+ to an A but as of now, a C
10 7 7 is great stat line for a rookie
Once the season is over, the next stage of his career truly begins. He needs to get various expert trainers to come and help him reconstruct his shooting form and jump-shot, strengthen his entire body, improve his cardio and energy, tighten his handles, develop hesitation moves, and work like mad on improving his athleticism and explosion. Also needs to make his arms and legs really much stronger. Also needs to improve his left hand/arm. He’s got his work cut out.
His rookie year isn't over. He's been hurt. All you want is for him to command the offense, regardless of his feelings of a coach. If he wants everything based upon his way as a rookie, he's going to have to get over that, unless he has 100% word from Magic Johnson on how this thing will go. We'll see what they do with Luke Walton in the off season but Lonzo just needs to get healthy, command the offense, learn how to win games, and enable his team as an asset not a liability. His grade is a D+ so far.
In his last 17-20 games he's been shooting better, and averaging more points. They just completely ignore that