Armitage III | KYOTO VIDEO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2019
- In 1996, Pioneer wanted to compete with Ghost in the Shell and decided that the best way to do so was to re-cut an OVA they licensed just last year and give it all star cast. What follows is a thought-provoking cyberpunk narrative involving country music, feminism and Elizabeth Berkley.
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I love how you talk about animation and industry history in depth in these.
Ahh, Armitage. I vividly remember reading about cyberpunk anime back in the 90s and this one was on the list along Cyber City Oedo, GITS, Bubblegum Crisis and some others. I had to wait almost a decade until I gained access to these movies (bless the internets) and now I felt like rewatching them. I'm so glad to report that they didn't loose any charm for me in the last 15 years. Still love their aesthetic, these metallic blueish cities, the blinking and whirring tech they use, the guns, the cars... It's just so 90s and so awesome. This will be forever my favorite flavor of cyberpunk, the one with CRT screens and people hooked up by wires to the Cyberspace.
I'm in my 30's and this is one of my first EVER animes I saw on SciFi channel when they had "Saturday Night Anime" a billion years ago. Fell in love with the medium immediately.
Bro SAME!!!
SAME! Back when I was a teenager in the 90's the UK Sci-fi channel showed anime at the weekends after midnight! I saw so much!
I remember that exact moment myself.
The only anime I'm still missing from that program line up is New Dominion Tank Police.
Although being a few years into anime, we also had anime nights on TV.
Polymatrix was one of the diamonds they broadcasted, among Evangelion, Bubblegum Crisis, Lodoss War....
There's a sweet spot in my heart missing this time
20:25 You will be missed Super Best Friends Play.
They might not be friends anymore. But they always will be, super
Oh man, how refreshing it is to see a video where someone isn't crapping all over this anime. Have you thought of changing the title to this video? I came upon it completely by fluke searching for tracks from the armitage soundtrack. This deserves 100k views!
Your interpretation of the feminist angle to the story is fascinating, I never really thought about it that way. It's such a crime this and the OVA haven't been released on Bluray....
Yup. It’s always a pleasure to find a reviewer that gives reasons behind their objective opinions, instead of just loudly shouting this is BAD or this is GOOD.
I think the part that I find interesting about this movie is how the Third-types can get pregnant, which thins the line between human and robot. It is something that was not touched on in the original Blade Runner movie, which heavily inspired this movie, but later added to the sequel Blade Runner 2049 where it is revealed the two characters from the original had a baby together. I think this aspect makes this movie very interesting particularly with the back drop of social and political tension that exists in this movie. Also another interesting plot point I see is the fact most of the female Thirds are often in the creative fields such as music, art, and literature, which is something the other designs don't seem to be capable of. To do something like this means you need to have a mind of your own, so it would also be an incentive for the villains to want to get rid of these robots who might end up creating a distinct Martian identity the Earth's movements do not want.
Love Naomi Armitage. Im 37 now and this was my first anime crush so i love the movie. It doesn't get the attention that it deserves. Whenever i play games like the Fallout series; anytime i play a female character i name her Naomi Armitage. Sorry i know that's very weeb of me 😅. I just really like the movie
A 80s tinged power metal band called beast in black actually just released an album called Dark Connection which has a few songs take inspiration from this. The song Moonlight Rendezvous even uses a voice clip from Armitage III.
I taped the film version off of the SciFi channel in the mid-90s. It was one of the first mature works of anime I had seen as a teenager, and I fully blame Armitage for my long-time love of short blondes in red.
I loved Armitage ever since renting the movie and it's sequel on vhs as a teen, recently went back and finally watched the original OVA.
How did it hold up? I ask as I watched Wicked City more than 25 years later and parts of it did not hold up at all, still enjoyed it but it wasn't the same.
I remember seeing the Armitage movie really early on the sci-fi channel back in the mid-late 90’s. I hadn’t even seen dragon ball at this point, so I had no idea wtf I was witnessing.
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hard core fan of armitage III here i think the anime deserves a longer run and more fleshing out for everything and most importantly the characters it has alot of potential i cant believe its just sitting there under the shadows of larger anime it's freaking awesome. better late then never #ARMITAGEIIIREBOOT
Honestly stories that have something to say are probably the least likely to get rebooted in anyway meaningful currently, because it's too easy to offend someone when you try to deal with issues that people can see themselves in and Armitage was for the time it came out was touching on some issues that might have seemed like sci-fi then, but would certainly be recognizable now.
@@NelsonStJames unfortunate yet true. People wouldn't be able to handle armitage lol... they are so weak minded nowdays. I for one would pay to see some more tho fur sure
I always wait for your video notifications!
I now got to know this thanks to the Beast in Black song Moonlight Rendezvous. The band's guitarist songwriter is a fan of anime, likely old ones, though I know his tastes are different from mine and others. That being said, I get to discover another good 90s anime. Armitage III may not be my most favorite and cyberpunk may not be my most preferred genre, but it is kind of interesting and still good in it's way; having that 90s cyberpunk goodness.
Despite it's flaws, several as they are, the Armitage franchise as a whole is largely responsible for catching my curiosity as a teen and eventually expanding my horizons as fan. Even still tracks from both osts pop up on my phone's shuffle mode. If I didn't see it back then, I would have missed out on quite a lot since.
Wow the Feminist theme is ahead of its time.
Whoa, I had no idea this was an OVA before the "movie". I've seen the movie many times. I need to go watch the OVA now. Thanks for your videos!
Pretty interesting that this review came out recently because I've just seen a review of the OVA and its sequel by Professor Otaku about a month ago, he was less positive about it to put it lightly. I like your review better because I feel you handled it better and you provided more information behind its production.
I'm surprised Prof's still making videos after D2 Brigade fell apart
I saw this OVA when I was like 11 and it was the first anime I had seen besides Gundam 0080 War in the Pocket. Weird first series to see. I always really enjoyed it but I completely forgot about it for a long time. These videos are great.
Fascinating analysis of a series I watched back in the 90s, but never thought particularly deeply about.
Goooooosh, Armitage was such a quintessential part of my formative anime years as a teen. Taped it off the sci fi channel when they did their Saturday anime block along with tenchi muyo in love and galaxy Express 999. I was less impressed by the sequel's with the cgibbut the original armitage movie? Gorgeous!
So happy I found your channel!
I'm coming out of watching this one as of today, and I have to say that, considering her record, Elizabeth Berkley might as well be given a pat on the back. That was an upgrade from what she'd been involved with, she did well, and considering I've heard worse for celeb dubs, that's saying a lot.
great work as always
I seen this movie like 15 years ago late night on TV once. I was sure this was a fever dream because I could never remember the name of it or find it since watching it. Thank you for making this video and unlocking a memory for me.
This channel is great and you are criminally under-recommended by the Algorithm. I'm getting in on the ground floor.
"If humans don't want me why did they make me!?"
This was quite interesting, more than I expected when I clicked on the link.
Wonderful and refreshing break down of this fantastic OVA. You should break down Fight! Iczer-One that ones a doozy
Boy does this bring back some old memories. First time I saw the OVA on the SiFi Channel in the mid '90s as a young child. My mom was asleep on the couch so I got to stay up into the early morning exposed to something completely different than the cartoons I had been watching until then.
I distinctively remember D'anclaude coming back every time he was defeated, and thinking how terrifying such a villain like him was to have resources and couldn't just die. I was too young to follow the story and was struggling to stay awake though, so I had thought he was just some rich bad guy lmao.
Nice video. I learned a good amount about one of my favorite animes. I think anyone interested should also check out the soundtrack, I still believe its one of the best soundtracks ever made.
So I have always watched this anime, thanks for the review
love the roger rabbit bit in the video
Wow this was what my dad and I watched we also were watching Appleseed
The OST is amazing!
How come poly matrix says pretty hate machine on it? Pretty sure nine inch nails was first
18:37 If the movie is just an edited down version of the OVA, how can it show something that isn't shown in the original OVA? Where did they get the footage? I can think of possible explanations for this, but I'm not immediately finding any answer as to which (if any) is the case.
What’s the name of that song at 6:46 - 6:50
Bro, IRL humans would be right to d1scr1m1n8 against AI robots, because it's pure self defense. There's no place for humanity in a world where skynet flat out out classes us at everything.
I wonder if we need another cyberpunk anime, movie or game in which robots are replacing humans in the workforce but it's pointed out that it's what the intention because robots could work 24/7 without complaining, demand unionization or even pay, something capitalists dream of for centuries. Maybe have one disgruntled human destroy a robot but is then flatout denied his job back and is blacklisted.
At one point, I would love to see talk about Central Park Media and John
18:41 snake dying noise
I love Armitage III … It still remains a favorite… My first exposure to it wasn't on SciFi Channel like so many others because I was a very poor student at the time I came across it and didn't have TV of any kind-but that's what a computer is for, right? Bought the DVD when a guy at the store recommended not because I was such a fan of Ghost in the Shell (which I am), but because of my love for the 2nd anime I ever saw… Bubblegum Crisis. (Haven't looked but surely you've done a video on the story behind that one-it's QUITE a story!)
Dual-Matrix is good, but I'm not sure it lives up to the original. Would love to see proper treatment to the OVA though. I don't think it ever got a proper blu-ray release. Actually I don't know if any of the Armitage III stuff ever did.
I kind of don't want to give Konaka credit now that I know a few more things about him but... I like the reading.
Any chance you’ll do a video on Dual Matrix?
Wow
welp time to search up naomi cosplays
While Ghost in the Shell came out AFTER, I saw that first at a friend's house many moons ago. It wasn't until years later that I rented Poly-Matrix from Blockbuster (remember that place?!) And I instantly fell in love with it and actually preferred it over GitS. Wasn't until way later that I discovered that Jack Bauer and Jessie Spano were the voices and was kinda my first anime where Hollywood did anime voices. Doing the vocal comparisons between the OVA and Poly, boy there is a huge difference. That scene with Armitage having her breakdown works better with Elizabeth because of the scene where Jessie gets hooked on those caffeine pills.
Great video. Hope Dual-Matrix gets reviewed, even if my memories of it were...not terribly favorable.
Sci-Fi showed it on their anime weekend or whatever, which is what originally got me into anime. I went out and bought the movie a few years later and was surprised to see it had quite a bit of nudity in it. Made it impossible to pass around in conservative Christian circles.
But note that the movie got the future exactly right, except that Earth is like Mars. Women might as well not exist for men.
Also literally every school of feminism is toxic and reduces birth rates. Matriarchy is a fever dream of masochistic males and subversive destroyers who think they can survive without a host civilization.
Are you going to review the sequel Armitage III Dual Matrix? I don't really watch anime but those Armitage movies are easily in my top 20 movies list.
both endings were inspired by blade runner even having two endings is very blade runner thing
Gives me Institute vibes from Fallout 4, the whole Third stuff.
Does anyone know where the intro music is from?
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@@KaiserBeamz Thank you. I was about to comment to ask. But I guess this spared me the comment, so that I can comment something else. ^^
@@KaiserBeamz Thank you so much. I have been trying to find it since I started watching your videos almost a year ago. Just finally decided to ask.
there was an episode on MTV's Road Rules where the cast did rough dubs for various scenes for Armitage.
Finally saw the series and ova. The sequel was better after the halfway point.
For all the anime's flaws, you gotta admit
The opening them song *SLAPS.*
finishing it myself i find it more palpable than blade runner, but that's only because armitage 3 is really an action romance flick at it's core hahaha
Everyone's latching on to the "feminist" thing in their reviews. This I believe is probably a translation issue.
Mars is a colony and most colonies in history have been primarily founded and settled by men. Without women, there's not really a way to have a continued population, hence the need for the 3rds, and the designs of the 2nds as primarily eye candy.
Earth is ideological in their views of humanity first, which is also the current sentiment on Mars, (hence the protests and so on. It's why there's so many anti-android sentiments in the populace, ect).
Mars is happy to rejoin with Earth (that is primarily female, not feminist), but they're trying to get rid of their dirty secret of the 3rds.
Armitage is a truly underappreciated classic and has many themes and ideas that are ahead of its time and amazingly different. (bio-punk in the firsts through 4ths, the terraforming, and the whole child bearing androids posing an existential threat theme got revisited in Bladerunner 2049).
I own the 4k release.
I had a copy of the OVA version.
even more blatant bladerunner inspiration than gits lol
Hello sailor moon 28:07
I'm amazed to just how quick you can get out video reviews like this. I used to do anime reviews just like you, and I was lucky if I could get out at least once a month. Tell me, what's your secret!
I don't think there really is a secret. I've just been in the rhythm for so long that I can't get out of it.
best gal
Off topic but I'm surprised that there isn't really any good kimagure orange road, city hunter, or urasei yatsura reviews.
Well those are very long anime with established histories, so watching those anime and researching them would be a massive timesink that one would need to prepare months in advance for. Not saying such videos aren't possible (I wanna get around to Kimagure Orange Road one of these days), but it's just that video producers would prefer to go after anime that would take 26 episodes maximum to binge first.
@@KaiserBeamz That's completely understandable. I myself am watching city hunter 2 right now. That said though I appreciate the work put in your videos. Sadly as time goes on I think the newer fans will eventually forget about the older classics and the origins of today's tropes.
Nomi Malone and Naomi Armitage unite!
Was gonna write a long comment, but I decided to just get to the point. Loved this video, sold me on it
What a beautiful mess that I'm eager to get into, all of it. And that's not me thrashing or mocking it,
but expressing my genuine fascination with the whole marketing push. Because the story itself, 100% my thing
Also, trans rights. Androids too, I'd support their rights
In a way, Armitage can be seen to be anti-TERF.
Exactly ! And no matter how one tries to spin it, TERF's are defined as feminists; just like the radical right are still considered Republicans. Armitage is simply doing what good sci-fi is supposed to do and extrapolating a possible future based on current conditions. How someone chooses to interpret it really says more about the person interpreting it, and artists and creators really can't be worried about that, or we'd never get art that tackled tough issues, because there'd always be sacred cows somebody considered to be beyond question.
Lol now I love Armtage more
@@Jorogumojinx same
I haven’t seen Poly Matrix since I was a teen but I was also hoping you’d touch on Dual Matrix to save me the trouble of sitting down to watch it cause I heard it wasn’t a good follow up 😂
Duel-Matrix is its own video. There's some aspects I really I wanna go into detail on in that anime.
This is like how Filmation released the first 5 episodes of 'She-Ra' as a theatrical film, 'The Secret Of The Sword', and show the episodes on the series proper after leaving theaters. Only differences is that we get no celebrity talent doing the voices. Though I will give 'Artimage III' props for how it comments on society by using robots as a minority, or seen as less than the women in power. (Cough*Kathleen*Kennedy*Cough)
thanks for the review. im quite fascinated by konaka's work and ive been hoping to watch more of his stuff beyond SEL and texhnolyze. that plot point does come off a little bit prickly to say the least but based on what youve said about it i might be willing to look past that and give it a shot anyways
I vaguely remember watching this (the movie) on early morning weekend scifi channel.
I was at an age where I prooobably shouldn't have been watching it 😕
ANSWER ME: Is that a ``Video Girl Ai`` clip at the start?
Indeed it is
@@KaiserBeamz Thanks for the answer...and whaaaaaaat? Since when has that been a thing? Who did it? Video Girl has to be my all time fav.
Ah, so this is the future JK Rowling wants
OOF.
7:47 thats so fucking cool, literally the reason why i watched this series, anybody knows where can i find the video/gif?
Lesson of the day: you can't force something to be a cult classic.
Space Jam says otherwise.
(full disclosure: I hate Space Jam. Don't take my example to mean that I like that it's a fact. But it is a fact that somehow, WB completely sold out and flushed away all of their many years of animation history and legacy with the Looney Tunes down the toilet, just to make an awful, forced, cringe-packed full-length, theatrically released basketball shoe commercial.... and it somehow became a 'beloved classic')
She voiced by Elizabeth berkley (i love her on saved by the Bell and showgirls). She's Jessie spano and Nomi Malone turns into Sora takenouchi from Digimon tri as Naomi armitage. Shinji ikari wants her. She's pretty hot.
dude your intro made me think hey made a new armitage lol
Showgirls Is not a bad move, it is sexy. Because I love showgirls. Nomi Malone love this anime.
The original OVAs were superior the the cut job voiced by Kiefer Sutherland
RWBY & Red Earth Capcom
Haha that's hilarious, I was thinking the earth 'feminists' were just like terfs right as you said it in the video
@27:30
Imagine if they use the same technology to give transwomen the ability to reproduce.
With both sets.
As a trans woman myself, thank you for the chuckle
In my head, I was thinking that was likely the reason that the male Third was created, though I didn't see any discussion of that. A sort of prototype model for helping to create offspring with human women. I'm new to the movie and the series, so if there's further evidence to support what I've supposed, I have yet to uncover it.
never watched ghost in the shell, sounds too much like critic bait.
I wonder if you're this dismissive about everything. I'd respect it if it wasn't for such a shallow reason
I know this is me nitpicking you for essentially being "too well read" (i.e. using a word you have only encountered in print and GASP pronouncing it incorrectly! Honestly, how dare you???) but when you say "sow" you're pronouncing it like the animal, what you want to say is the version of the word that sounds exactly like "sew" but is spelled "sow" and means "to spread" sorry, rant over.
Have you ever considered kissing a loaded gun?
Too edgy for me sir
The word Edgy itself is overrated, immediately loses it's impactful meaning the moment it's mentioned.
@@Mecks089 ok boomer
@@KhayJayArt K zoomer.
As someone who was born and head-first into early 2000s content.
What a _gross_ misuse of the term, you want your definition of edgy? One name: Genocyber
I'd say calling this anime a classic is an exaggeration. This series doesn't have nearly enough time to develop its themes properly, it should have lasted for at least 10 episodes.