Genocyber, no one EVER mentions the source material which had so much potential and was a completely different story and less hateful. The fact that this anime got so many episodes is bonkers. Tony really left a lot hanging on the plate that didn't involve minor child abuse.
What the hell are you talking about? Of course there was child abuse in the manga. Elaine and Diana we’re experimented on! How the hell is that not abuse!?
@@mrsticky005 Elaine and Diana are older teens in the manga. Maybe even college students. They're willing participants in their father’s research. The Dead parents and Kuryu Group abduction stuff actually happens a bit later, and Kenneth being a surrogate father was the anime's invention.
I know genocyber hasn't aged well, but its apocalyptic imagery and myra's tragic backstory that resonates with me, and her increasingly deteriorating mental state as she deals with the complete madness and death of the situation she puts through has had a significant impact on me artistically. I found it in 2010, about the same time as akira and newgrounds. the death and horror seemed almost subversive to what was on TV in those days.
I think that Part 3 was less of a remake of CyGuard, and more of Ohata's take on Daimajin. Think about it, both stories center entirely around a city ruled by dictatorship with the leaders being very dismissive of legends surrounding a statue coming alive and bringing ruin to the city, both stories feature a massacre at the hands of the government with one person's dying wish to awaken the monster triggering its wrath, both stories essentially switch to the kaiju genre as the awakened monster lays waste to everything in its path before returning back into a fossilized state. I think that the plot structure falls more in line with the basic formula of the Daimajin Trilogy.
It hoenstly feels like, if it had more budget and fanbase, Genocyber could have basically been a Cyberpunk Violence Jack, it just feels like we have the origin story, one of the story arcs / villian battles, then it rushes to a really weak ending because it had to scrounge just to get it made.
26:06 if I remember correctly that's just her subconscious, as she looks up and a tear from the boy falls on her face it changes back to the monster and that's actually his blood dripping on the monster's face.
Holy shit, that explains why some of the stuff in Full Metal Alchemist (2003) was so exquisitely dark. People should cut Full Metal Alchemist (2003) some slack. That show was awesome - until it really wasn't.
I love it too despite its flaws, I don't care about how people look at me when I say it (actually, maybe a little). That SA scene should have been cut, or rewritten entirely though.
@@sumdood8563Yeah that scene felt shoe horned in there with no substance . There's a scene like that in Beserk but it has substance to the main characters backstory. They don't show it for edge they show why Guts is the way he is and why he reacts the way he dose. It's an uncomfortable and sad part of his childhood. It's disturbing and trust me as much as I love Beserk as a story some parts are really hard to read because of certain scenes that are very intense in nature due to subject matter or viseral imagery. The great writting and characters is why I love Beserk and why I read the Manga though
@@sumdood8563Genocyber has potential to have a unqiue and even dare I say well written story. It's Manga counterpart shows this more so but the Ova never explored the Manga's ideas. Which is unfortunate. If given the chance, this story could have been better. I like the concept and designs . I just wish there was more substance and development in it's Anime counterpart story and character development wise . And I wish the Manga version was longer to explore it's ideas further.
4:43 I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU REVIEWING THIS TRASH!!!! I have several other pieces of trash that I would like to see reviewed sooner rather than later. Like Wrath of the Ninja, the crap movie edit of Yōtōden. That first release dub was a mess to watch upon revisiting it.
I only discovered Genocyber by watching a list about bloody anime, then seeing someone had uploaded the whole series. I do think the first episode has some interesting elements that could be expanded into an decent series of handed by the right people. I did think it was sad when her friend died, and wished there had been more character. I also think the main theme that plays when the monster is about to begin ruining things is fantastic. I have to agree with a lot of your points about the downsides, and it won’t be an anime I return to.
I don't think there's ever been an anime TV, movie, and OVA series out there that has made me want to inflict bodily harm on its director and screenplay writer other than _Genocyber_ . It's amazing to me what anime franchises Koichi Ohata and Sho Aikawa would go to work on in their later years considering some of their earlier works didn't have them institutionalized or at least get psych evaluations. Then again, the original _MD Geist_ is one of my favorite guilty pleasures despite all of the strikes against it, so do with that information what you will. XD Nice video, although I could only stand to listen to your narration; the absurdly graphic violence, brutality, and nihilism of _Genocyber_ has scarred me for life. Keep up the good work.
19:28 theres a part you missed here. Diana and Elaine were reborn and fused into one baby. This is hinted at several times in the first episode when kenneth and later diana mentions elaine and her are part of eachother. Later mentioning the vajra expeirment their mother went through is what resulted in there being two girls born instead of one which is where their own problems came from. Diana being crippled and elaine having the mind of an animal.
Honestly, the best way to enjoy Genocyber is to just read the original manga. Despite it being cut short after the first volume, but I would argue it's a better story, even with its flaws.
Reminded me of Elfen Leid, but with organic/psychic mechs, and on a global level of death. Both had appeals, but missed many marks that they could have hit. And that's very accurate about Berserk, 1000% I recommend the series, all the anime, the movies, and the manga!
@@MonsieurMaouji yep, it's the only place that you'll get any semblance of an animated continuation after the golden age. Manga is still the number 1 source
15:51 Elaine, who has been mistaken for a survivor. No. She is not mistaken as a survivor. She did feel like a refugee after she transformed back to normal. She ended up exhausted after this.
12:10 When I was 14, I rented the first volume of Genocyber. My mom walked in during this scene. I wasn't allowed to rent anime for a while after that.
Genocyber is just a metalhead anime fan ultraviolent wet dream, i dont think theres a 'story' for it, fairy dreamin is a bop tho. Also i like your editing of videos, cool to find another channel like kennys (i hope i can see it grow too like i did with kennys [found him before the nora video])
The story is really as straightforward as it gets. Two young girls are experimented on and transformed into a weapon, forced to fight against their will. In their clashes with military forces from around the world they trigger a near-extinction event. The sisters finally find a way to go enter a state of hibernation and the Genocyber body is petrified. Then ep. 4 and 5 queue, which show two strangers navigating a dystopian city, only for them to be brutally murdered and the city be burned to a crisp when the sisters, this time more or less voluntarily, give the city the good ole Sodom and Gomorrha treatment. What happens to the sister is, for all intents and purposes, left ambiguous.
@@mannyfresh03 That's funny because you cared enough to comment regardless. Also no reason to be butthurt just because Leeccdoo is right and you're not!
I un-apologetically love Genocyber. I discovered it around... 2012 and it's been one of my favorites. I understand it's disjointed, hateful, gritty and all that but I still love Genocyber. :] I actually went out and bought the viz comics, soundtrack and I even had a cel of the anime of my wall. Got the blu-ray re-release as well! I'm not defending it though because I understand that it's a schlocky-mess but that adds to the charm for me! Great work on this video, KaizerBeamz. Thanks for covering one of my favorites and giving it a chance. Fairy Dreamn' >:3
Yes. If they did that , it could be something truly great. Devilman Crybaby was fantastic on it's delivery with it's story and themes that feel real and authentic not cheep. I feel Genocyber deserves a remake.
This was a really good coverage of what I watched and yeah I feel the same way, you could really see the progressive drop off in quality I started to get irritable later on and even fell asleep for 5mins on episode 3. It's a shame really that it actually is just a potentially good story told very poorly, it had alot of cool themes and unique visuals but it just fumbled the bag in alot of key important ways that just makes it just slightly below being a middling anime, the violence is really what keeps the anime in any type of discussion i'm sure. Also that Kickass Ending theme.
Great overview of this series. I see I am not the only one that was ultimately disappointed. I loved the potential this series had in part 1 and it just squanders it with each successive episode. I can imagine a talented team taking the story, or remaking the story into something cool and impactful. All we are left with are memes about the terrible voice acting in the Ark de Grande City arc.
Agree with everything you said. It's stuff like this I think would benefit from getting a remake. Rather than redoing stuff thats already good, take something like Genocyber and give it to a competent writer who can effectively realise and communicate its potential. The end theme is pretty cool tho.
@@leeccdoo Nah I disagree. The entire OVA feels really disjointed. I think it would be better if they forgot about the bits on the ship and the last city. And just fleshed out the story of the first part. That part was really rushed and actually potentially has a pretty interesting plot. It fits what I feel the standard for remaking something should be, something that has potential but was executed poorly. Saying that, I do enjoy Genocyber for what it is. It could just have been better.
I never liked Genocyber from the start. I was unfortunate to have been exposed to this as a kid and I had constant nightmares from it. And one of those nightmares instilled my fear of heights into my heart. Thank you for your insight and I wholeheartedly agree.
Is nobody going to bring up the fact that the leader of Ark De Grande looks exactly like Bill Clinton? Like, EXACTLY? In that there is NO way it’s a coincidence? He was president at the time.
No arguments here. So far your take on all these anime is fairly spot on. Your channel is a great resource for the classics. I hope you get in to some stuff like Prince of Tennis, Future Boy Conan, Bubble Crash and Crisis... etc.
Are you kidding? His take on all of these Anime is ANYTHING but "fairly spot on"! This guy literally never knows what he's even talking about and is a faux Anime fan.
I've seen a few of the titles Sho Aikawa wrote or created, and the biggest themes I notice from them is an interest in Japanese history, especially the Showa era and 60s and 70s pop culture. What's weird is that outside of his work with Ichiro Itano and the odd title like this, his work by and large isn't that violent.
I'd honestly forgotten I'd watched this so many years ago - and then there was the clip of Davey's final fate which you showed. And then you showed it again. And again. And AGAIN. (Seriously, how DID he end up that way?) But now I recall how much I hated this one, and for most of the reasons you talk about here. It's gratuitous violence for the sake of gratuitous violence, while trying to pass off having a plot. Speaking of which...why HAVEN'T you done an episode on Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend? I'm guessing I have a good idea what you thought of it based on this one, but still, I'd be interested to hear your take on it. Great video as always!
I always remember that shot of Davey waking up to find his body eviscerated because it was in an anime music video that we showed at Anime Weekend Atlanta in the late 90's. These guys had what must have seemed like a hilarious and brilliant idea at the time of combining Hanson's MMMBop with scenes of anime characters in absolute torment and shocking gore.
I feel like if they just hacked off everything past episode 1 and expanded that story into a full OVA, it could have been something so much better than the rushed mess we got.
Since Genocyber need some company, I would like to see Genocyber crossover with: Mortal Kombat (crossfire between Earthrealm and Netherrealm, with Liu Kang, Raiden, Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Scropion, Sub Zero, Sonya Blade, Kitana etc) Aliens (assist Ripley and Marine to fight Mother Alien and Alien Queen), Predators, Terminator, Hellraiser (encounter Pinhead), Ash Williams of Evil Dead, X-men (where Charles Xavier and Magneto approach Genocyber), Superman, Supergirl or Justice League, Incredible Hulk and She Hulk, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Thor or Avengers, Guyver, Doom, Watchmen, Warhammer 40000, Suicide Squad (Harley Quinn, Peacemaker), Mutant League, Spawn, Hellboy, Invincible (with Omni Man), The Boys and Gen V (with Homelander), Starship Troopers, Planet Of The Apes, Underworld (Lycan, Selene), Marvel Midnight Sons (Ghost Rider), Inhumaniods, Jurassic World, Turok The Dinosaur Hunter, Godzilla and Kong
I can’t be the only one who thinks some of the plot elements of Genocyber (OVA and manga) feel ESPECIALLY reminiscent of Bubblegum Crisis...but god DAMN, what was people’s obsession with taking BGC and making it dark and gritty? The fucking bright colourful pop and rock 80’s fun action cheesefest that is BGC? Like...why tho?? First you have the AD Police Files OVA (the manga for AD Police was way better imo and actually felt tonally consistent with BGC with actually alright writing), then you get that awful BGC comic by Dark Horse that was so bad and fanfic-y it got canned after it’s initial miniseries debut that turned Priss into an emo bitch, and now Genocyber being BGC but for edgelords. Fucking hell man...
thought I could finally understand the plot of this mess by watching the wonderful summary section but alas, it's still too freaking confusing lmao. fantastic video btw
The only edgy death and it wasnt even that edgy was the little boys death. Little dude tried his best trying to protect elaine all the time. also beserk is one of the best anime just saying
Part of me wishes to peek into the universe where part 3 of genocyber was replaced with two episodes of Maple Town, as long as they remain in-continuity
I grew up watching it, and and since i've watched it countless times. It's on my #1 top 3 anime list, imo I think it's rlly good. If u think it's bad, say in ur opinion lol. Cuz there ppl who think it's good 😂
I’ll always have a soft spot for genocyber. Watched an amv that was just the gore. Disgusted me at the time, but it was definitely the reason why I got into anime. I still stand that it’s the best way to watch the show
There's actually been a pretty good slate of isekai anime with this season titles like Cautious Hero, Kemono Michi and Ascendance of a Bookworm. Especially since the majority of them play around with the formula.
@@KaiserBeamz Haha What a pitiful, worthless excuse of a "review" this was. Could your laughable opinion be anymore pretentious as it is extremely asinine?
Yeah seriously! I couldn't agree more with you. To be brutally honest, this was made during the golden age of Anime. Stuff like this separates the boys between the men!
Hey KaiserBeamz, Great vid. Quick question: Were you around / are you old enough to remember when Geno Came out? I remember it have quite the buzz surrounding it. There were far fewer titles available at the time and in 94 this was very scary to me.
@@KaiserBeamz Hey thanks for getting back. Yeah, with no offence being attended here; it's hard to watch someone criticize this title so harshly when you weren't renting on VHS back in the day. Maybe another way of looking at it, but there such few titles available to us. It was just the next release in the ongoing "any anime is good enough to quench my thirst is enough". I don't think the slice of life genre would have cut it. These hard hitting, gratuitous films is what imo peeked the interest of a lot of the outliers (we did't have any other options). Alas, every genre needs a punk phase. I like most of the newer stuff, but I do miss the "Non porno adult themed" stuff. Keep up the good work
Look... *Genocyber,, M.D. Geist* and *Mad Bull* are not bad anime. *Black Cat* is bad anime. If you create something, regardless of how simple or straight forward, and achieve your goal, that is a mission: accomplished. I have never found any of the hardcore animes you mentioned to be _boring._ *Black Cat* is only saved in the terrible english dub, if even that. 38:00 actually... yes. Even without the gore, it's still a decent B movie with well executed action scenes. Sometimes you're in the mood for *Bridge on the River Kwai,* and sometimes you're in the mood for *Invasion U.S.A*
This guy's videos are really well done, but his take on classic anime is almost always wrong. Genocyber is is a beautiful and brilliant anime. I thought there were only 2 episodes on my old DVD tho, I have to check out parts 3 to 5!
where do you even find this stuff to watch it? also, why do you expect an action gore focused show to have a good story? It's like you're complaining mario's combat is too simple or complaining that the need for speed games' story is bad; you say it's bad because the show is not about what you value, but for what they are, they're very good.
Once you've watched the hundredth body explode for no reason other than the shock, you are literally desensitized. That's what separates good dark anime from bad: do I still care when it run time is complete?
I don't think Genocyber is bad because the use of ultra-violence lacks a deeper meaning. Some artists just want to create dark and violent art because they enjoy it, and I see value in it. I enjoyed Genocyber mainly because I wanted to see death, gore, and destruction. The fact that ultra-violence is so rare in anime only makes me appreciate more that the artists behind it were willing to go that far. I also recommend the animated short Hammerhead and Housing Complex C for some modern animated gore.
I loved Geist, one of the first animes I'd seen. Goofy, fun, poorly animated yet stylish, a good concept handled poorly in the most charming way, and it's amazing soundtrack. Then I watched Genocyber cus of the director. I didn't watch past the beginning of ep 2. It was too much. No charm, no fun, just existed to be as graphic (in both violence and subject matter) as possible.
@@funkyweapon1981 That whole anime scene from around the mid 80's to the early 90's where we had all these small independent studios putting out crazy idiosyncratic passion projects and weird stuff with unapologetic sexual content or gore was always going to be unsustainable. The money was always gonna run out or it was always gonna be co-opted and watered down by mainstream commercial interests because sadly that's how these sorts of things always end up and it's usually the natural progression of these unexpected pop culture movements.
Its just the design that sticks with me lol. Every once and awhile the thought pops up of a mess of a show vaguely remembered, but a really rad bio angel demon thing doing anime nonsense
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Genocyber, no one EVER mentions the source material which had so much potential and was a completely different story and less hateful. The fact that this anime got so many episodes is bonkers. Tony really left a lot hanging on the plate that didn't involve minor child abuse.
What the hell are you talking about? Of course there was child abuse in the manga.
Elaine and Diana we’re experimented on!
How the hell is that not abuse!?
@@mrsticky005 Elaine and Diana are older teens in the manga. Maybe even college students. They're willing participants in their father’s research. The Dead parents and Kuryu Group abduction stuff actually happens a bit later, and Kenneth being a surrogate father was the anime's invention.
The source material of Genocyber definitely has potential but it's ova never explores that . :(
@@alexanderford3831 you know what I think you're right.
though I think Kenneth was still abusive in both parts.
I wouldn't mine taking a crack at Adapting the manga and filling the gaps
I know genocyber hasn't aged well, but its apocalyptic imagery and myra's tragic backstory that resonates with me, and her increasingly deteriorating mental state as she deals with the complete madness and death of the situation she puts through has had a significant impact on me artistically. I found it in 2010, about the same time as akira and newgrounds. the death and horror seemed almost subversive to what was on TV in those days.
I un-ironically enjoy Genocyber.
Me too uwu.
I could see why it is kinda silly tbh
What do you enjoy about it?
Me too!
Same.
Cyber City Oedo is probably the best of the bunch imho.
Cyber City Oedo is one of those titles I'm saving for a special occasion because its an anime that fills me with pure joy.
@@KaiserBeamz The hype is now real.
I agree Cyber City Oedo is like really sophisticated, its violent but like fuckin cool, its like a really classy anime.
@@KaiserBeamz 4 years and still waiting... lol
@@KaiserBeamz
Me too
Word is, KaiserBeamz is still getting around to reading the comments by people criticizing him for looking at Genocyber critically to this day.
I think that Part 3 was less of a remake of CyGuard, and more of Ohata's take on Daimajin. Think about it, both stories center entirely around a city ruled by dictatorship with the leaders being very dismissive of legends surrounding a statue coming alive and bringing ruin to the city, both stories feature a massacre at the hands of the government with one person's dying wish to awaken the monster triggering its wrath, both stories essentially switch to the kaiju genre as the awakened monster lays waste to everything in its path before returning back into a fossilized state. I think that the plot structure falls more in line with the basic formula of the Daimajin Trilogy.
The Manga art was so gorgeous though. I remember buying the series in the comic store Atomic Comics back in the 90's and was floored by the artwork.
Nice use of Einhander music! I am DYING to play that game!
He also threw in some Battle Garegga and Radiant Silvergun music as well. Dude has great taste.
15:15 "what sick man sends babies to fight me?"
It hoenstly feels like, if it had more budget and fanbase, Genocyber could have basically been a Cyberpunk Violence Jack, it just feels like we have the origin story, one of the story arcs / villian battles, then it rushes to a really weak ending because it had to scrounge just to get it made.
26:06 if I remember correctly that's just her subconscious, as she looks up and a tear from the boy falls on her face it changes back to the monster and that's actually his blood dripping on the monster's face.
It was grotesque but dang, it has those moments of awesome
Holy shit, that explains why some of the stuff in Full Metal Alchemist (2003) was so exquisitely dark. People should cut Full Metal Alchemist (2003) some slack. That show was awesome - until it really wasn't.
This was a super cool video, glad to see people researching this show. It might be my personal favorite anime.
I love it too despite its flaws, I don't care about how people look at me when I say it (actually, maybe a little). That SA scene should have been cut, or rewritten entirely though.
@@sumdood8563Yeah that scene felt shoe horned in there with no substance . There's a scene like that in Beserk but it has substance to the main characters backstory. They don't show it for edge they show why Guts is the way he is and why he reacts the way he dose. It's an uncomfortable and sad part of his childhood. It's disturbing and trust me as much as I love Beserk as a story some parts are really hard to read because of certain scenes that are very intense in nature due to subject matter or viseral imagery. The great writting and characters is why I love Beserk and why I read the Manga though
@@sumdood8563Genocyber has potential to have a unqiue and even dare I say well written story. It's Manga counterpart shows this more so but the Ova never explored the Manga's ideas. Which is unfortunate. If given the chance, this story could have been better. I like the concept and designs . I just wish there was more substance and development in it's Anime counterpart story and character development wise . And I wish the Manga version was longer to explore it's ideas further.
@@sumdood8563That SA scene was unnecessary. Idk why that was included. Was very uncomfortable bearing witness to that .
@@foregroundeclipse8725 you're preaching to the choir right now.
4:43 I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU REVIEWING THIS TRASH!!!!
I have several other pieces of trash that I would like to see reviewed sooner rather than later. Like Wrath of the Ninja, the crap movie edit of Yōtōden. That first release dub was a mess to watch upon revisiting it.
Takeshi Takezaki's been slept on for real. I recommend picking up Takezakis' Evangelion for a goof mad magazine piss take at Anno's expence.
7:19 I absolutely love that song. Trash Gang’s “Can’t Get It Enough” is the most metal song in any anime.
This was really well written, edited and produced. Thanks for all your hard work.
Ohshit, R-Type Delta music out of nowhere.
I only discovered Genocyber by watching a list about bloody anime, then seeing someone had uploaded the whole series. I do think the first episode has some interesting elements that could be expanded into an decent series of handed by the right people. I did think it was sad when her friend died, and wished there had been more character. I also think the main theme that plays when the monster is about to begin ruining things is fantastic. I have to agree with a lot of your points about the downsides, and it won’t be an anime I return to.
28:11
Okay, now I'm subbing.
I don't think there's ever been an anime TV, movie, and OVA series out there that has made me want to inflict bodily harm on its director and screenplay writer other than _Genocyber_ . It's amazing to me what anime franchises Koichi Ohata and Sho Aikawa would go to work on in their later years considering some of their earlier works didn't have them institutionalized or at least get psych evaluations. Then again, the original _MD Geist_ is one of my favorite guilty pleasures despite all of the strikes against it, so do with that information what you will. XD Nice video, although I could only stand to listen to your narration; the absurdly graphic violence, brutality, and nihilism of _Genocyber_ has scarred me for life. Keep up the good work.
Take a xanax.
@@owendavis2731: I'd have to down the whole bottle.
Yeah, I actually watched it because I wanted to see that 90's gore aesthetic...I got bored fast but I enjoyed the gory parts.
19:28 theres a part you missed here. Diana and Elaine were reborn and fused into one baby. This is hinted at several times in the first episode when kenneth and later diana mentions elaine and her are part of eachother. Later mentioning the vajra expeirment their mother went through is what resulted in there being two girls born instead of one which is where their own problems came from. Diana being crippled and elaine having the mind of an animal.
Honestly, the best way to enjoy Genocyber is to just read the original manga. Despite it being cut short after the first volume, but I would argue it's a better story, even with its flaws.
They are the same story.
The anime takes place AFTER
the manga.
-Would you watch this anime if the gore was turned down/removed?
Yes, and yes. I loved this anime growing up, and I still do- warts and all.
Reminded me of Elfen Leid, but with organic/psychic mechs, and on a global level of death. Both had appeals, but missed many marks that they could have hit. And that's very accurate about Berserk, 1000% I recommend the series, all the anime, the movies, and the manga!
"All the anime"
So, even the 2016 series?
@@MonsieurMaouji yep, it's the only place that you'll get any semblance of an animated continuation after the golden age. Manga is still the number 1 source
Elfen Leid did have sad moments.
Berserk works because it wasn’t meant to be exploitative.
It is shame, the manga of Genocyber, has yet to be continued and reach a conclusion.
15:51 Elaine, who has been mistaken for a survivor. No. She is not mistaken as a survivor. She did feel like a refugee after she transformed back to normal. She ended up exhausted after this.
Great channel man. The golden boy vid made me sub. Super nostalgic watching your reviews....reminds me of when I first got into anime. Great reviews 👍
Weirdly enough I just got done watching the Mad Bull review you did, so in a way it eased me into this review. Don't know if that coincidental or not.
Jon Arbuckle's greatest weapon -- "Genarfield"
12:10 When I was 14, I rented the first volume of Genocyber. My mom walked in during this scene. I wasn't allowed to rent anime for a while after that.
Genocyber is just a metalhead anime fan ultraviolent wet dream, i dont think theres a 'story' for it, fairy dreamin is a bop tho.
Also i like your editing of videos, cool to find another channel like kennys (i hope i can see it grow too like i did with kennys [found him before the nora video])
The only time it actually had a story was in the first part
The story is really as straightforward as it gets. Two young girls are experimented on and transformed into a weapon, forced to fight against their will. In their clashes with military forces from around the world they trigger a near-extinction event. The sisters finally find a way to go enter a state of hibernation and the Genocyber body is petrified. Then ep. 4 and 5 queue, which show two strangers navigating a dystopian city, only for them to be brutally murdered and the city be burned to a crisp when the sisters, this time more or less voluntarily, give the city the good ole Sodom and Gomorrha treatment. What happens to the sister is, for all intents and purposes, left ambiguous.
@@leeccdoo I’m not reading all that dawg. Idc
@@mannyfresh03 That's funny because you cared enough to comment regardless. Also no reason to be butthurt just because Leeccdoo is right and you're not!
@@tomdavis2299 Again idc.
Of course it's this one on Halloween.
Manga UK dub: has charms
CPM dub: Garbage and Kill it with fire!
The original Japanese with subtitles is the best and only way to watch this extremely underrated hidden gem.
A Garcian Smith reference at 32:15.
I un-apologetically love Genocyber. I discovered it around... 2012 and it's been one of my favorites. I understand it's disjointed, hateful, gritty and all that but I still love Genocyber. :]
I actually went out and bought the viz comics, soundtrack and I even had a cel of the anime of my wall. Got the blu-ray re-release as well! I'm not defending it though because I understand that it's a schlocky-mess but that adds to the charm for me!
Great work on this video, KaizerBeamz. Thanks for covering one of my favorites and giving it a chance.
Fairy Dreamn' >:3
YO! I hear some Battle Garegga music in the background here! Great choice of BGM ✌️
The ost *Fairy Dreaming* STILL THE BEST anime soundtrack EVER !!!!
Facts.
Anyone else want Genocyber part one remade into something like devilman crybaby?
Yes. If they did that , it could be something truly great. Devilman Crybaby was fantastic on it's delivery with it's story and themes that feel real and authentic not cheep. I feel Genocyber deserves a remake.
Thanks for reminding me why I never went passed the first volume with this series.
This was a really good coverage of what I watched and yeah I feel the same way, you could
really see the progressive drop off in quality I started to get irritable later on and even fell asleep for 5mins on episode 3.
It's a shame really that it actually is just a potentially good story told very poorly, it had alot of cool themes and unique visuals but
it just fumbled the bag in alot of key important ways that just makes it just slightly below being a middling anime, the violence is really what
keeps the anime in any type of discussion i'm sure. Also that Kickass Ending theme.
Great overview of this series. I see I am not the only one that was ultimately disappointed. I loved the potential this series had in part 1 and it just squanders it with each successive episode. I can imagine a talented team taking the story, or remaking the story into something cool and impactful. All we are left with are memes about the terrible voice acting in the Ark de Grande City arc.
Agree with everything you said. It's stuff like this I think would benefit from getting a remake. Rather than redoing stuff thats already good, take something like Genocyber and give it to a competent writer who can effectively realise and communicate its potential.
The end theme is pretty cool tho.
No.
@@leeccdoo what?
@@leeccdoo Nah I disagree. The entire OVA feels really disjointed. I think it would be better if they forgot about the bits on the ship and the last city. And just fleshed out the story of the first part. That part was really rushed and actually potentially has a pretty interesting plot.
It fits what I feel the standard for remaking something should be, something that has potential but was executed poorly.
Saying that, I do enjoy Genocyber for what it is. It could just have been better.
@@leeccdoo Not seen that one. There are definitely plenty of 80s and 90s OVA's that are far worse than Genocyber tho.
I never liked Genocyber from the start. I was unfortunate to have been exposed to this as a kid and I had constant nightmares from it. And one of those nightmares instilled my fear of heights into my heart. Thank you for your insight and I wholeheartedly agree.
LMAO
Is nobody going to bring up the fact that the leader of Ark De Grande looks exactly like Bill Clinton? Like, EXACTLY? In that there is NO way it’s a coincidence? He was president at the time.
I would say that Apocalypse Zero definitely fits the Violence Canon.
Wait that's not Genocyber, That's Stardust dragon from Yugioh 5Ds...or so I assume with the sfx they used for their roar lol
GUYS
GUYS HE KNOWS WHAT VIDEO TOASTER IS
HES MY FAVORITE VIDEO ESSAYIST. I LOVE HIM
I truly believe this anime could be back but better and still has potential
No arguments here. So far your take on all these anime is fairly spot on. Your channel is a great resource for the classics. I hope you get in to some stuff like Prince of Tennis, Future Boy Conan, Bubble Crash and Crisis... etc.
Are you kidding? His take on all of these Anime is ANYTHING but "fairly spot on"! This guy literally never knows what he's even talking about and is a faux Anime fan.
@@haillucifer8294 let me guess, He’s not misogynistic enough to be an anime fan
I've seen a few of the titles Sho Aikawa wrote or created, and the biggest themes I notice from them is an interest in Japanese history, especially the Showa era and 60s and 70s pop culture. What's weird is that outside of his work with Ichiro Itano and the odd title like this, his work by and large isn't that violent.
I'd honestly forgotten I'd watched this so many years ago - and then there was the clip of Davey's final fate which you showed. And then you showed it again.
And again.
And AGAIN.
(Seriously, how DID he end up that way?)
But now I recall how much I hated this one, and for most of the reasons you talk about here. It's gratuitous violence for the sake of gratuitous violence, while trying to pass off having a plot.
Speaking of which...why HAVEN'T you done an episode on Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend? I'm guessing I have a good idea what you thought of it based on this one, but still, I'd be interested to hear your take on it.
Great video as always!
I always remember that shot of Davey waking up to find his body eviscerated because it was in an anime music video that we showed at Anime Weekend Atlanta in the late 90's. These guys had what must have seemed like a hilarious and brilliant idea at the time of combining Hanson's MMMBop with scenes of anime characters in absolute torment and shocking gore.
@@Strideo1 So he was essentially repeating the same images being generated in the minds of those hearing the music? ;)
@@emperordalek Haha! If your ears are gonna bleed might as well make your eyes bleed too.
This soundtrack is so damn good.
I feel like if they just hacked off everything past episode 1 and expanded that story into a full OVA, it could have been something so much better than the rushed mess we got.
Have all three vhs tapes love this shit
Since Genocyber need some company, I would like to see Genocyber crossover with:
Mortal Kombat (crossfire between Earthrealm and Netherrealm, with Liu Kang, Raiden, Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Scropion, Sub Zero, Sonya Blade, Kitana etc)
Aliens (assist Ripley and Marine to fight Mother Alien and Alien Queen),
Predators,
Terminator,
Hellraiser (encounter Pinhead),
Ash Williams of Evil Dead,
X-men (where Charles Xavier and Magneto approach Genocyber),
Superman, Supergirl or Justice League,
Incredible Hulk and She Hulk,
Captain Marvel,
Doctor Strange,
Thor or Avengers,
Guyver,
Doom,
Watchmen,
Warhammer 40000,
Suicide Squad (Harley Quinn, Peacemaker),
Mutant League,
Spawn,
Hellboy,
Invincible (with Omni Man),
The Boys and Gen V (with Homelander),
Starship Troopers,
Planet Of The Apes,
Underworld (Lycan, Selene),
Marvel Midnight Sons (Ghost Rider),
Inhumaniods,
Jurassic World,
Turok The Dinosaur Hunter,
Godzilla and Kong
That creature in the thumbnail looks like if Imperfect Cell and Burter fused
0:33 God, how I love this opening!
Yes I would watch it without the gore because my eyeballs can't stay away from 90s anime artstyle no matter what.
I can’t be the only one who thinks some of the plot elements of Genocyber (OVA and manga) feel ESPECIALLY reminiscent of Bubblegum Crisis...but god DAMN, what was people’s obsession with taking BGC and making it dark and gritty? The fucking bright colourful pop and rock 80’s fun action cheesefest that is BGC? Like...why tho?? First you have the AD Police Files OVA (the manga for AD Police was way better imo and actually felt tonally consistent with BGC with actually alright writing), then you get that awful BGC comic by Dark Horse that was so bad and fanfic-y it got canned after it’s initial miniseries debut that turned Priss into an emo bitch, and now Genocyber being BGC but for edgelords. Fucking hell man...
16:18 John Arbuckle? I guess he's going to find out that bullets don't work.
Jan Scott Frazier...what would the U.S. anime industry be without you
Ahhhhh good ol' einhander music
31:30 ya, when you seen the tragic death once, you seen them all.
This was once the finest of the culture that was Central Park Media, second only to MD Geist.
This anime killed my discord server. Some people got into an argument and it got so intense that I had to delete it lol
thought I could finally understand the plot of this mess by watching the wonderful summary section but alas, it's still too freaking confusing lmao.
fantastic video btw
The only edgy death and it wasnt even that edgy was the little boys death. Little dude tried his best trying to protect elaine all the time.
also beserk is one of the best anime just saying
It's still better than most anime now.
Thank fuck for Diskotech for bringing back classic stuff
I mean sure, if you have shit taste.
Part of me wishes to peek into the universe where part 3 of genocyber was replaced with two episodes of Maple Town, as long as they remain in-continuity
It would've made zero difference the story with the added benefit of making Genocyber an easier watch.
I grew up watching it, and and since i've watched it countless times. It's on my #1 top 3 anime list, imo I think it's rlly good. If u think it's bad, say in ur opinion lol. Cuz there ppl who think it's good 😂
I’ll always have a soft spot for genocyber. Watched an amv that was just the gore. Disgusted me at the time, but it was definitely the reason why I got into anime. I still stand that it’s the best way to watch the show
N it is at the end of episode 2 that Myra goes full blown Reiko from Golden Boy crying out 4 Kintaro Oe
Writer guy redeemed himself with concrete revolution at least :)
Eh, I'll take Genocyber over whatever Shitty Isekai anime is coming out nowadays.
I don't know, I'd put all this season's isekai anywhere between mediocre and solid. Last season's isekai, though, were so bad they were insulting.
There's actually been a pretty good slate of isekai anime with this season titles like Cautious Hero, Kemono Michi and Ascendance of a Bookworm. Especially since the majority of them play around with the formula.
@@KaiserBeamz Haha What a pitiful, worthless excuse of a "review" this was. Could your laughable opinion be anymore pretentious as it is extremely asinine?
Yeah seriously! I couldn't agree more with you. To be brutally honest, this was made during the golden age of Anime. Stuff like this separates the boys between the men!
Of course you would, you don’t watch isekai and just parrot other people’s opinion on isekai.
Watched it yesterday for the first time, and I liked it...
Gotta turn off your brain a little but other than that it's pretty dope.
Song at the end?
Hey KaiserBeamz,
Great vid. Quick question: Were you around / are you old enough to remember when Geno Came out? I remember it have quite the buzz surrounding it. There were far fewer titles available at the time and in 94 this was very scary to me.
In 1994, I was in preschool. Nearly all of my knowledge of American otaku culture from before 2000 is completely second-hand.
@@KaiserBeamz Hey thanks for getting back. Yeah, with no offence being attended here; it's hard to watch someone criticize this title so harshly when you weren't renting on VHS back in the day. Maybe another way of looking at it, but there such few titles available to us. It was just the next release in the ongoing "any anime is good enough to quench my thirst is enough". I don't think the slice of life genre would have cut it. These hard hitting, gratuitous films is what imo peeked the interest of a lot of the outliers (we did't have any other options). Alas, every genre needs a punk phase. I like most of the newer stuff, but I do miss the "Non porno adult themed" stuff.
Keep up the good work
Can you do legend of the overfiend, it’s an essential in 90s adult anime.
1:27 & 1:53 | The beloved *Violence Canon*
2:41 | Really?
21:35 | Look at that Detail!
Look... *Genocyber,, M.D. Geist* and *Mad Bull* are not bad anime. *Black Cat* is bad anime. If you create something, regardless of how simple or straight forward, and achieve your goal, that is a mission: accomplished. I have never found any of the hardcore animes you mentioned to be _boring._ *Black Cat* is only saved in the terrible english dub, if even that.
38:00 actually... yes. Even without the gore, it's still a decent B movie with well executed action scenes. Sometimes you're in the mood for *Bridge on the River Kwai,* and sometimes you're in the mood for *Invasion U.S.A*
hmm....i spotted a killer7 reference? very very good....
Yo that fairy dreaming song freaking slaps harder than it needs to though. Unfortunately it was wasted on this anime
This guy's videos are really well done, but his take on classic anime is almost always wrong. Genocyber is is a beautiful and brilliant anime. I thought there were only 2 episodes on my old DVD tho, I have to check out parts 3 to 5!
SHOUT OUT BOTCHAMANIA REFERENCE!
where do you even find this stuff to watch it?
also, why do you expect an action gore focused show to have a good story? It's like you're complaining mario's combat is too simple or complaining that the need for speed games' story is bad; you say it's bad because the show is not about what you value, but for what they are, they're very good.
Once you've watched the hundredth body explode for no reason other than the shock, you are literally desensitized. That's what separates good dark anime from bad: do I still care when it run time is complete?
4:50 where is this from
Sometimes you just have to wonder what were the creators on when they made this?
Whats the name of the opening song
I have the DVD that has all episodes I love genocyber thank you for reviewing it you're awesome😉
I don't think Genocyber is bad because the use of ultra-violence lacks a deeper meaning. Some artists just want to create dark and violent art because they enjoy it, and I see value in it. I enjoyed Genocyber mainly because I wanted to see death, gore, and destruction.
The fact that ultra-violence is so rare in anime only makes me appreciate more that the artists behind it were willing to go that far.
I also recommend the animated short Hammerhead and Housing Complex C for some modern animated gore.
the guyver!
I loved Geist, one of the first animes I'd seen. Goofy, fun, poorly animated yet stylish, a good concept handled poorly in the most charming way, and it's amazing soundtrack.
Then I watched Genocyber cus of the director. I didn't watch past the beginning of ep 2. It was too much. No charm, no fun, just existed to be as graphic (in both violence and subject matter) as possible.
greeaaaat channel
KaiserBeamz what anime is that at 29:25-29:33?
This is the first anime I watched when I was 4 years old.... I'm not that big of an anime fan now
I really enjoyed this anime, kids today are soft and dont appreciate 80's and 90's adult anime. Too scary for them.
Anime should never, eeeeeeeeveeeeerrrrr have become mainstream.
@@funkyweapon1981 That whole anime scene from around the mid 80's to the early 90's where we had all these small independent studios putting out crazy idiosyncratic passion projects and weird stuff with unapologetic sexual content or gore was always going to be unsustainable. The money was always gonna run out or it was always gonna be co-opted and watered down by mainstream commercial interests because sadly that's how these sorts of things always end up and it's usually the natural progression of these unexpected pop culture movements.
Or they don’t have the tolerance for shit that you have.
Its just the design that sticks with me lol. Every once and awhile the thought pops up of a mess of a show vaguely remembered, but a really rad bio angel demon thing doing anime nonsense