And thats why i will forever give halo a chance, bc ill never forget the great times ive had with my same friends throughout halo life. Its given me the most enjoyment out of any multiplayer game over the past 20 years, easily.
I mean this restructure of the studio basically is a studio change. The axed all of the old leadership and now there is new players in the game. Pierre is the one who honestly saved MCC I'm going to give my attention to him I want this franchise back it was my childhood If he was able to save MCC I feel like he could save the franchise.
Most of 343s senior leadership were shown the door after infinite. Kiki was sent to work on expanded media (which lead to the hilariously bad Halo TV show) and Bonnie Ross was ushered out of the studio. Id be somewhat interested to see what a new 343 could bring now that the worst at the top have gone, but at the same time I moreso agree with you. Just hand the franchise to someone else. 343 had plenty of chances.
What made Halo great was Master Chief, the gameplay, mission design, and story telling. Graphics were hella good for it's time, but I think about everything else I mentioned first before the graphics when I fondly look back on the Halo 1-3, reach, and odst days. Their concentration on the graphics, visuals, and locations makes me doubt this studio really knows what Halo is truly about that made it awesome in the first place.
Like most publishers and development companies who are publicly traded it's basically all flash and no substance. It's enough to fool the shareholders and the masses but this IP doesn't have mass appeal so it'll never succeed as a shallow "good looking" shooter
Always shocking to me that people are unsatisfied with the Tiger engine. All the enemies on screen, the gunfire, abilities, five other dudes running around doing the same shit, and my game is running at 144fps on high settings.
Grandmaster excision almost broke the tiger engine. I would throw a grenade and it would instantly despawn , people had their capability to sprint randomly disabled, rockets would land and do nothing
I think that dropping ps4 and xbox1 and remaking the game just for current gen would help. If that's a real option. Hunt showdown did this recently and it was worth it for that game at least.
Exactly. UE5 has horrible traversal stutter issues and frametime pacing problems. Imagine destiny on it at its current graphical fidelity. It would be a mess.
@@pecador-torr😂fuck a destiny 3. It will create the same problems, lack of unique content, boring after we exhaust that content, same bs new game. Destiny 2 peaked at Forsaken and is now creatively dead.
They can change studio’s name and engines all they want. Graphical fidelity was never the issue in 343’s Halo games, it was literally everything else. They have proven time after time they don’t understand Halo and they never will.
Craig. Halo infinite looked bad now they fixed it up and now it looks good. Infinite still had graphical issues at launch as well. It has been an issue before but not always an issue. Saying it was never an issue is still wrong.
Halo 4 was amazing in pretty much every regard. Infinite feels like a modernized Halo 3, it had a simple yet solid campaign experience, and it's only real issues were a lack of content which has been resolved and the monetization. In fact Infinite was originally praised when the multiplayer launched for how much is felt like classic Halo but in a modern setting, it wasn't until a month or two later people started to start mentioning the issues.
@@GeremyG Does that change anything? The reception at that time was the reason they delayed the game. They were originally going to release it at that quality.
UE scares me. The engine relies heavily on TAA to support its nanite tech, which can severely hinder performance. TAA is used to reduce the impact of nanite, but creates immense ghosting issues. We've been seeing this with recent UE5 releases. I hope they're using a custom in house UE branch... PLUS, now there's one less proprietary engine. It's a shame to see, because engine monopolization makes the games begin to feel the same.
Nanite is memory bandwidth intense along with software lumen. UE5 is still basically in beta form plus I honestly think the problem lies more with the extra effort involved with optimizing UE5 games. It is so much easier for studios just to lower the resolution to save on memory than it is to optimize.
@@shredenvain7 Exactly. Nanite creates more problems than it solves with triangle overdraw, TAA creates blurry visuals, and upscaling causes ghosting... Yet UE enforces all of these. They're good on paper, but are all just technologies made to hide cost cutting measures.
there's a reason there hasn't been a big blockbuster game, especially FPS, built in UE5. It makes development easy and looks good, but under the hood the performance sucks and you can't have that UE stutter in a competitive FPS game
While yes, it’s still the same studio, changes have been made. Also, no longer having to split their team 50/50 between the game and the engine, means that everyone can focus on the game without having to worry about their own engine. I think this will be a good change for Halo (or at least I hope so). PS getting rid of bad leadership like 343 is doing is absolutely something that needs to be done at Bungie. Just saying
I just want a good halo game with GOOD campaign to remember GOOD PVP with plenty of content GOOD Forge , Custom games GOOD FIREFIGHT GOOD PROGRESS WITH SPARTAN ARMOR HAVING FREE COLOR CUSTOMIZATION AND UNLOCK ARMOR THRU EFFORT AND CHALLENGES NO BATTLEPASS OR SHOP ALL DAY ONE NO BS
People seem to be missing the point. This is basically a recruit ad for their studio. Saying “Hey you don’t have to spend years learning how the tools work, you can just use your unreal knowledge”. Engine switch isn’t about fidelity it’s more about streamlining content production.
Or It shows how they now have a crappy team compared to before, that they can't run their own engine and make a game. probably because incompetent hiring.
@@SillyName4U but then that doesn’t make sense because they fired most of the leadership and the team, and the guy replacing them is the guy who saved halo mcc. So logically that doesn’t make sense.
@@arshdeepsandhu look at the leads and producer. Logically it's not the guy your talking about. You can fire leadership and hire new inexperienced terrible leadership. And yes it doesn't make sense, but sadly happens
They also axed the entire upper management staff and replaced them, let's be hopeful they made better picks this time and they can recapture Og Bungie energy, it's not like Bungie is even Bungie anymore with how D2 is dying along with all there other projects
The one who is running the team is the guy who saved MCC. That doesn't mean anything right now but it does show some hope. Just wait for gameplay to come out then weigh in your hopes or depression.
All new leadership, that's what matters the most also pretty sure they did a bunch of layoffs as well, trimmed the bad fat now they are hiring new talent, this is a big shake up, I would rather be optimistic and give it a shot, would love to have old halo back
I love and still semi regularly play Infinite Multiplayer. I enjoyed the campaign as well, granted not near as much as the Bungie ones. But there has been a massive exodus of the old 343 devs. Most if not all the people there now are new and are doing great stuff with infinite! I think the name change just was the final mail in the coffin to distance themselves from the negativity toward 343 and Infinite launch. Hopefully Halo has great days ahead, I’m excited! A bit nervous, but excited!
Yep, Infinite is in a really good place now. I'm still upset they blew it at launch & lost so much of the playerbase but glad they've turned it around.
“We have a studio that’s really passionate about halo”… as they cut core halo content like split screen and make the multiplayer bare bones fry! Don’t believe a word until they show they can be trusted
Where is the split screen in space marine 2, Last of us 2, Spiderman 2, Doom eternal? I dont hear people bitching about it being absent in any other tentpole shooters! I think its just trendy to hate on everything 343, Halo and Xbox.
@@megabomb808 Seriously? What a dumb response! Bungie made Halo and transitioned into Destiny! Since that legacy originates with Bungie why doesn't Destiny have split screen coop or split screen multiplayer?? You are being short sighted.
@@shredenvain7The difference is that 343 literally promised that there would be split-screen in Infinite after it was absent in 5. Then they walked it back. That's why people were annoyed.
Halo was what got me into gaming I was a complete super fan. Ive now watched 343 kill it for over a decade. I can't watch this video without it feeling like its complete satire, nothing will convince but an actually good game.
Why halo was so special, it always had a waouh effect: Discovering unbelievable places coming from mind with other visions (the halo which is a viable landscape, the forerunner floating buildings, light bridges, covenant civilization and use of their strange weapons) Music has also a big part, which by the theme counted stories and epicness And finally the fun, with dialogues
Prioritizing graphics and not experiences is what they’re getting wrong. It looks amazing, and that’s really impressive, but there’s no shot the next Halo ends up great if they aren’t actually putting the actual experience and gameplay first.
These "developers" don't even look like they've worked on halo. They look like Microsoft spokesmen who don't understand what made Halo so cool. It's not the graphics. It's not the technical achievements. It was an amazing storyline and mystique world with characters that had.... character. I don't care how good your graphics are if I don't care about the game.
@starcraftflyer17 I've worked with developers from 2 companies (one of them owned by Microsoft) in several states, and tbh I only saw a handful of females actually working on games and even less in positions of meaningful power. It's kinda the same when someone says they're a mechanic and doesn't know how to take something apart, but they can spin a ratchet and fit a socket on a bolt head. You can tell they have an idea of what to do/talk about, but they don't really know what they're doing. I would like to add that if your franchise is hanging on by a thread like Halo is, then you're probably going to mention improvements to player feedback before showing (let's call it what it is) an ad for unreal engine. If you're gonna be a game developer, lawyer, doctor, mechanic, truck driver, graphic designer, etc. You're going to walk, talk, and act like one is my point.
I don't think a lot of people realize that most of (if not all) the old 343 leadership is gone, from what I've heard from the people I know who still play halo the new leadership is pretty alright
i also feel like people hate on infinite too much. In my opinion its problems stemmed primarily from a complete lack of content, something that ue5 will more than likely fix. The only thing that remains to be seen is if this new leadership will keep going in the right direction, or if they'll do a 180 and make something stupid or silly.
Why does Master Chief look like an Action Figure. He looks so Shiny and Clean. That was my issue with 5, and Infinite. Reach and 3 Armor looked so realistic and rough. War is not Clean and Shiny.
I thought Halo Infinite was as close to OG Halo MP as they can possibly get. I'm not sure how much more it can be improved in order to draw me in like I was before. However, I'll play new story content forever!
They don't need to improve 4v4. They need to get rid of it entirely. The 4v4 sandbox died years ago. Halo 5 warzone was the best 343 multi-player they've done. They need to make a new pvp experience.
Halo's PVP formula was simple. Spend 10 -15 minutes battling other people with your friends or a few strangers. Laugh/Get Mad, run for the power weapons, everyone Win/Lose, repeat for 5 hours. It was so much fun. Now it's all about build crafting, goofy gimmicky weapons, sliding and flipping around like a goofball, constantly changing weapons and how they work. The main changes within Halo games were new maps. Same gameplay, just new and improved maps. I never needed to watch a 30 minute video about how I needed to prep my character for anything new in Halo. I simply turned on my XBOX, signed in, chose a cosmetic setup for my Spartan and went to work shooting things. Oh, and made a pee filled toilet with my emblem.
The sky boxes ,lore and fun gunplay all with a great multi-player made halo my first ever game played on the original Xbox the best time ever and it was truly EPIC. I'll never forget it. Bungie and 343 have always had my heart from day 1 and that's why I even play xbox tbh. Forgot to add the environments have always been beautiful. Cheers
Let's look at the issues that current and past employees of 343 have pointed out: 1. The old heads of 343 that won't let devs do what they want or need to make the games great. They said they've fired people and are looking to hire more some new blood, but nowhere have they placed blame on individuals and nowhere have we heard that the problem individuals were removed. 2. Current and past employees have said that almost if not actually everyone is under an 18 month contract and this leads to a ton of issues as they don't have enough time to get familiar with tools, teams, and overall production of anything promising. You can see how this would be an issue when new faces come into the studio in the middle of changes or fixes and they have no clue what's up and won't have enough time to properly help. We've heard NOTHING about this changing. 3. Microsoft. They regularly push 343 to release projects FAR before they are ready. In fact, the last time we had a "more feature complete" game release, it was Halo 4. Halo 5, MCC, and Infinite all released broken, unfinished, and with major issues. All of this while taking FAR too long to add needed things or changing things to help the health of their games. Nothing said or shown in the last few years suggests that Microsoft has changed, and is it has been made PAINFULLY clear: Microsoft is still at the top and will always have the final say on when things will release, regardless of any needed extended deadlines. These are the biggest issues that have plagued 343 and continue to do so. They've not acknowledged any of this and as for Microsoft's part in it, they've not spoken about this either. So there is absolutely ZERO evidence to suggest that anything meaningful has changed. I desperately NEED the Halo fanbase to stop enabling this cycle. They keep convincing themselves "THIS IS THE ONE" when it's really not. They then preorder, and when the game isn't good they will STILL keep playing because "I don't have anything else to play" or sunk cost fallacy, or unchecked addiction(which is a major issue within the gaming industry.) And the playtime + money spent enables the studio/Microsoft to keep doing this. It's fucking MIND NUMBING.
number 2 changes by them moving to UE5. They will be hiring people with UE5 experience. with Number 3 you contradict yourself by blaming MS for pushing for earlier releases only for you to the claim that 343 takes forever to put out fixes and content. Again UE5 will help with their ability to push out the content being that the slipspace engine is the tiger engine.
There's a whole new management team and the studio is now led by the guy responsible for saving MCC, the reason they're no longer called 343 is because it's basically a new company. Most of what you said isn't applicable.
@@realtuber101 sorry bad wording, I meant to say that because of all the past negatives and Halo Studios not admitting to what we're the actual causes of 343i's downfall doesn't mean it's over for Halo Studios. You got to remember that right now they are on a thin line right now, the Halo community is mostly supportive of what's happening however there are still many who are skeptical and for good reason It's best to judge when the product comes out and the reason why I'm hopeful is because the people who've been running the franchise to the ground have been mostly removed from working with Halo. However on the note of the rebranding many have started to be toxic just because of woman being prominent in the team or the fact there's a black woman with colored hair working in Halo Studios, while it may seem like a red flag it's not the end and should not be pushed to the side because of looks. Like the old saying goes you can't judge a book by its cover. I know I'm rambling but it's better to judge the product rather than manufacturer.
halo had splitscreen, uncapped multiplayer fun with customs (with forge also ofc), amazing story and just amazing multiplayer for the time it grew up in. I don't know if you could do this again, you could get close but online games are different now and peoples attention spans / lives are way different.
Cross has definitely been talking to game developers because everything he was saying throughout the video is accurate. Game engines are not going to magically make a game better or worse depending on which is being used. It's about which engine fits better with the project you're trying to realize. For games like Smite or Dead by Daylight, those were developed in an older verion of unreal engine, so making the transition will come with major benefits. But the tiger engine was developed with a core purpose to develop destiny, so switching to unreal would not only come with limitations, but would also require several employees to waste their years of experience in tiger to learn a brand new engine, which takes time and thus costs money.
The only thing that scares me about the switch to UE is what if they/Microsoft keeps the stupid contractor method going? As in they have 15-18 month "contractors" working on the game, instead of dedicated devs, and then they switch them out for new contractors. REALLY hope we get some sort of consistency.
Grew up with the OG Halo along with 2 & 3 but after those, I kind of stopped playing the series entirely. Spent 100hrs in Halo Infinite for the multiplayer but it never reached that potential that the OG Halo did back in the 2000s. A different era.
How will it lose its feel? You know nothing yet you're already see it as that. All FPS games look and feel the same to a certain degree. You know what's called? A formula. First person, shoot guns, running, sliding. What will Halo lose going to UE5 that will make it feel like a "Generic" FPS game?
@@heroicxidiot have you played games like this? the halo engine has a distinct "feel" to it; the physics, the look, everything about it. Same thing with the source engine, you can feel when a game is made using source. While it may be subtle, it IS noticeable, and that's enough. oh, sure, there's a specific formula that's used. but the implementation of the formula is what makes it feel. And the engine has a key part in that implementation. Unless they can figure out how to make UE5 feel like the Blam engine, Halo might lose some of the charm it still has (I'm not a game designer lmao, this is just random knowledge i may or may not have heard, so take everything with a grain of salt)
They have stated in multiple articles that they are working to keep the games true to what they were. Art, physics everything. Physics was mentioned a lot in the articles plus interviews with Pierre he doesn't want the core Halo experience to be gone, including working on the classic Halo physics. I mean look at Satisfactory for example super floaty game honestly feels like Halo sometimes with the movement. Its something completely different than most standard UE5 games just give em time to cook thats it.
Being able to focus on the game and not the engine at the same time for future development is a huge change that also invites creativity and forethought! Finally!
What made Halo special was player expression. Players were able to customize their Spartan to their heart’s content, customize the campaign through a variety of skull modifiers, make their own game modes, even their own maps later on through forge. The problem is that Halo’s core has shifted from that to the competitive scene and micro transactions. Thats why Halo is struggling, not its graphics. If it’s going to survive, it NEEDS to go back to focusing on player expression and providing the tools and resources for that to flourish again. A graphics overhaul isn’t going to accomplish anything.
I think the change is great, I mean it’s not like they were on an upward trajectory, it can’t get worse for them and at least now they have no excuse for something being wrong. Unreal engine 5 works really well and with Microsoft money they can get all the help they need with unreal, plus they can get additional help like making custom modules for halo studios. The next halo will look great for sure and I’m also sure that the performance will be just fine, but the writing, gameplay, tone, atmosphere, etc is all up to halo studios. I’m cautiously hopeful and excited.
The change was made not because the last Halo game looked bad but the effort to get to the point it looked and the maintenance of the engine code base. Switching to an external engines frees resources that can be used for visual fidelity. Furthermore you have the experts besides Epic in house with The Coalition. Those are masters of the Unreal Engine as we all know. As a platform holder and also a big publisher Xbox will assumably get the best support Epic is able to provide for Engine customizations necessary to bring it to a performance level a Halo game needs/deserves. Using Unreal also does not mean you cannot rewrite parts of the engine to your requirements, though it counters the effect of freeing resources as you yourself have to maintain that code base and not Epic.Another important point is the fact that with the change it is easier to get contractors or new talent on board as there is way more experience in the market than for a proprietary engine like Slipspace. I am cautious optimitic that the move is for the better.
Thats cause Red engine is to much of a hassle. I mean think of how long it took them to make the game and the game came out a buggy mess. Red engine is a problem and they are getting rid of it due to, to much dev stress.
This IS really simple. SOMEHOW BUNGIE (the original bungie) NEEDS TO DO ANOTHER HALO GAME. This would save them, restore the glam to the Halo franchise...AND (I think) satisfy US. Thanks for trying 343. After 10 years of trying to satisfy the itch, it's time to let go. It's time for Bungie to at least try to "come home" to what they introduced to the world. It's time for daddy to come home.
At least for me, the story is what I play halo and destiny for. I loved halo's story up till 4 and then 5 was a rough ride for me. Loved spartan Buck, I really hated where they went with Cortana. I loved the introduction of the banished in HW2 I really hated an off screen death for antag cortana. I'm curious about these new species they introduced in infinite but at this point idk. It will take me a lot to come back to halo. I'm tired of these blind alley stories. I want a more complete narrative arc. I'll read the reviews for the new projects and see the community feedback before I get reinvested.
Dude the last major engine upgrade was in beyond light, you can literally see it, I’m not saying they haven’t added things to the engine, for instance loadouts and fireteam finder, they need to do better simple
Whatever dev told you that BS about tiger engine being more sophisticated for destiny than UE5, needs to be questioned further, cause that’s a load of BS. What they meant to say is, porting over all the systems used in tiger to UE would take quite a bit of resources and time, which the leadership team at Bungie doesn’t want to do. Destiny porting over to UE would allow so much more options for spectical that’s it’s insanity.
Why port Destiny 2 to a new engine and not just develop a new one. Destiny 2 is just too ingrained in the tiger engine to ever be ported, at that point it would need to be remade from scratch which is dumb.
@@nicholaslowe2401 The reason why is dev time, as cross said in the video. They have to actively dev the engine so it take time and resources away from the game. Porting would do the same thing, they could port the game over but that also cost time and money plus reconfiguring a lot of systems.
@@nicholaslowe2401 you’re saying 2 things at once, yet saying the same thing. The franchise definitely needs a new coat of paint, as the formula itself is, as you say, ingrained…and that formula is stale and horribly outdated. At the same time, the franchise definitely needs a new game, which would require a new engine. They can DEFINITELY port existing foundations into UE (abilities, perks, exotics, gunplay etc…), but with the added benefit of having an engine that can realize the potential of the vastness of the universe far better (better skyboxes, enhanced physics, enemy density and AI behavior). While UE isn’t the only engine available, it definitely is the most widely known and very capable of fulfilling the artistic vision of destiny.
I’m in the camp of making Destiny 3 on a new engine it doesn’t need to be UE5 specifically, however with how much code bloat that Destiny 2 has been stacked with legacy code spanning back all the way to the Blam engine I see little value in spending man time remaking Destiny 2 from almost scratch on a new engine when it would take the same amount of time to just make Destiny 3 which in my opinion is the better option. I want to do more in the game then just explore the limited open worlds or sandbox that can never be expanded because the Tiger engine has a meltdown if Bungie ever tries to add a new perk slots to guns. While we can port or remake Destiny’s foundation using the code used to make the physics, abilities, gunplay, etc it’s better to utilize Unreals better tech such as graphics, memory, AI generation, and offloading engine development costs that could of been spent on building the game rather than reworking the Tiger engine for a fifth time just to buy Destiny 2 another three years on the shelf.
Halo Combat Evolved was my first game on PC. They say you always remember your first time....certainly true for me. The first time the elite jumped out of the darkness with the sword I almost lost my SH_T. I loved Halo CE, and Halo 2 and Reach. I so wanted the storyline to end with MasterChief and Cortana evolving TOGETHER. When they took Cortana down the dark path, I HATED IT. I felt they betrayed the love story concept and killed it. The best parts of Halo were when Master CHief and Cortana worked together. Who can forget 'Me inside your head now' or 'He flew pretty good- for a brick'. (Sergeant Johnson was epic too). I want a campaign based story that helps you move along if you get stuck. I don't like games that rely on ytubers to explain everything you can't figure out. I'm hoping for something positive.
It'd be nice to see the triumphant return of Michael Salvatori. I never cared for infinite, my favorites were reach and 4, and the firefight in halo 5. Hopefully, Halo will come back into the light again
Just bring back peak halo 3, give us forge and custom game modes, give us bungies funniest pictures of the week submitted by players. give us ranked slayer and doubles and swat and let us grind to lvl 50. Halo 3 was absolutely perfect.
I don't understand why there is so much hype for this. The engine has never been the problem for the 343i Halo titles. A new engine won't all of a sudden fix bad game dev choices. I've read that there is new leadership at the studio but I don't know.
Its not just a new name, leadership in the company has changed as well. Right now it looks for the better but I will still wait and see what they make. I see the sliver of hope, but I understand why people want to hate.
Its funny how a lot of people says "Infinite is not that bad..." Dude, Infinite causes all of this changes, its the dark spot of 343 legacy. And no Bungielievers, Halo 4 and 5 are not that bad, they´re good halos even if u cry, but Infinite´s multiplayer... damn
The team that gave us 4 5 and Infinite are gone. This team was introduced to us around the time season 4 of Infinite came out and they have been working on this project behind the scenes rather than all hands on Infinite. 343i as we knew them is gone, but we’ll just have to wait and see.
@@snypes38actually started studying Game Dev/Design recently! But it’s pretty obvious what it means… As a musician and audio engineer, there are similar terms out there!
Let's hope they figure out how to bring back one of my favorite series. Halo got me into FPS so this series was my starting point and I would love to see it make a comeback.
Engine/graphics are not the current problem. What made halo epic was the INCREDIBLE story. Halo 5/6 gave us absolute garbage that was disjointed and didn’t follow the promotional media. It left massive gaps in continuity. 343’s decision to not have campaign DLC continues to be baffling. It just shows they have zero passion for the game and just want a solely competitive esport like PvP.
Hey guys, if I wanted to experience halo for the first time, what order should I play the games in? Halo was way before my time and I’ve only ever heard good stuff about it
Halo Reach was the last highpoint of the series. Infinites issues weren't cosmetic, I wonder how a studio rebrand and UE5 will remedy them. I don't think the fans want a more pretty Halo infinite.
The real question is, how many are actually there from infinites development? Bc i dnt recognize any of those devs. Everyone seems to be so sure its just 343 renamed halo studios....
I've been seeing this hyped for the past 24 hours and I got to say DON'T fall for the BS, this is still 343 studio with a name change only and a engine switch nothing else. The engine they are whining about was only used for Halo Infinite so that doesn't excuse them for Halo 4-5 which the writing and direction of the games sucked, this will be a remake of Halo nothing new because they lack the talent to create their own Halo story.
They need to do MORE with the Halo world. Don't just give us a "new" story because we all know it's going to be some generic trash that has already been done by someone else. Don't just give us "new" physics and graphics because I can just go watch an UE5 youtube video for that. Give us something MORE, something that expands the Halo universe beyond just "Master Chief."
Love all the people on twitter and here who claim themselves "true Halo fans" but they don't even know what the hell has been happening at the company that produces it lol. 3 rounds of lay offs that unfortunately effected the developers, Microsoft completely replacing the executive board of the studio, and then Pierre Hintz taking the CEO spot with Bonnie Ross leaving. It is, quite literally, a brand new studio at this point.
I would pay $$$ to play crossover D2 character in a the Master Chief collection. Play my hunter or warlock against the covenant and flood. Just takes one vex gate and wtf....
Guys don't get your hopes up to much its still 343 just new brand and new engine that was never the problem it's the people in 343 that don't have a clue what there doing and that's not going to change
Some good here, some red flags. Visuals are great but not at the expense of feel or performance. It definitely needed a shake up. I don't know that we're getting a stoic badass Master Chief from this team but we'll see.
Halo had that epic scale and mystery to it. I feel Destiny 1 also captured this as well. Combined with the music it made both games something special.
This. 100% this.
OMG, how good it was with D1! Recaptured the magic for a few glorious years.
I’ll always remember the time I had on Halo, but it’s either time for a studio change or let the franchise enter the gaming hall of fame
And thats why i will forever give halo a chance, bc ill never forget the great times ive had with my same friends throughout halo life. Its given me the most enjoyment out of any multiplayer game over the past 20 years, easily.
There has been new leadership changes though. This is the result of the new management. The old 343 leadership no longer work there.
I mean this restructure of the studio basically is a studio change. The axed all of the old leadership and now there is new players in the game. Pierre is the one who honestly saved MCC I'm going to give my attention to him I want this franchise back it was my childhood If he was able to save MCC I feel like he could save the franchise.
Most of 343s senior leadership were shown the door after infinite. Kiki was sent to work on expanded media (which lead to the hilariously bad Halo TV show) and Bonnie Ross was ushered out of the studio. Id be somewhat interested to see what a new 343 could bring now that the worst at the top have gone, but at the same time I moreso agree with you. Just hand the franchise to someone else. 343 had plenty of chances.
@@ForceFedBaltdon't forget time splitters 2
What made Halo great was Master Chief, the gameplay, mission design, and story telling. Graphics were hella good for it's time, but I think about everything else I mentioned first before the graphics when I fondly look back on the Halo 1-3, reach, and odst days. Their concentration on the graphics, visuals, and locations makes me doubt this studio really knows what Halo is truly about that made it awesome in the first place.
Bingo
Like most publishers and development companies who are publicly traded it's basically all flash and no substance. It's enough to fool the shareholders and the masses but this IP doesn't have mass appeal so it'll never succeed as a shallow "good looking" shooter
Always shocking to me that people are unsatisfied with the Tiger engine.
All the enemies on screen, the gunfire, abilities, five other dudes running around doing the same shit, and my game is running at 144fps on high settings.
Grandmaster excision almost broke the tiger engine. I would throw a grenade and it would instantly despawn , people had their capability to sprint randomly disabled, rockets would land and do nothing
I think that dropping ps4 and xbox1 and remaking the game just for current gen would help. If that's a real option. Hunt showdown did this recently and it was worth it for that game at least.
Exactly. UE5 has horrible traversal stutter issues and frametime pacing problems. Imagine destiny on it at its current graphical fidelity. It would be a mess.
That's why we need destiny 3 you fool, that's why we're unsatisfied, we want more, it's been a decade of nothing big
@@pecador-torr😂fuck a destiny 3. It will create the same problems, lack of unique content, boring after we exhaust that content, same bs new game. Destiny 2 peaked at Forsaken and is now creatively dead.
"Child of my enemy, why have you come? I offer no forgiveness, a father's sins, passed to his son"
They can change studio’s name and engines all they want. Graphical fidelity was never the issue in 343’s Halo games, it was literally everything else. They have proven time after time they don’t understand Halo and they never will.
Craig. Halo infinite looked bad now they fixed it up and now it looks good. Infinite still had graphical issues at launch as well. It has been an issue before but not always an issue. Saying it was never an issue is still wrong.
Halo 4 was amazing in pretty much every regard. Infinite feels like a modernized Halo 3, it had a simple yet solid campaign experience, and it's only real issues were a lack of content which has been resolved and the monetization. In fact Infinite was originally praised when the multiplayer launched for how much is felt like classic Halo but in a modern setting, it wasn't until a month or two later people started to start mentioning the issues.
@@heroicxidiotCraig was a year before the game launched brother
@@GeremyG Does that change anything? The reception at that time was the reason they delayed the game. They were originally going to release it at that quality.
@@orangesoda51414 Halo 4 was terrible in every regard. What are you talking about?
UE scares me. The engine relies heavily on TAA to support its nanite tech, which can severely hinder performance. TAA is used to reduce the impact of nanite, but creates immense ghosting issues. We've been seeing this with recent UE5 releases.
I hope they're using a custom in house UE branch...
PLUS, now there's one less proprietary engine. It's a shame to see, because engine monopolization makes the games begin to feel the same.
Yea, I'm not keen on engine monopolization either...
Nanite is memory bandwidth intense along with software lumen. UE5 is still basically in beta form plus I honestly think the problem lies more with the extra effort involved with optimizing UE5 games. It is so much easier for studios just to lower the resolution to save on memory than it is to optimize.
@@shredenvain7 Exactly. Nanite creates more problems than it solves with triangle overdraw, TAA creates blurry visuals, and upscaling causes ghosting... Yet UE enforces all of these.
They're good on paper, but are all just technologies made to hide cost cutting measures.
there's a reason there hasn't been a big blockbuster game, especially FPS, built in UE5. It makes development easy and looks good, but under the hood the performance sucks and you can't have that UE stutter in a competitive FPS game
@@utmastuh 100% agree. How is traversal and shader stutter still such a problem in that engine?
While yes, it’s still the same studio, changes have been made. Also, no longer having to split their team 50/50 between the game and the engine, means that everyone can focus on the game without having to worry about their own engine. I think this will be a good change for Halo (or at least I hope so). PS getting rid of bad leadership like 343 is doing is absolutely something that needs to be done at Bungie. Just saying
Up to 2/3rds of the original people are gone. It’s basically a brand new company
Exactly
I just want a good halo game with
GOOD campaign to remember
GOOD PVP with plenty of content
GOOD Forge , Custom games
GOOD FIREFIGHT
GOOD PROGRESS WITH SPARTAN ARMOR HAVING FREE COLOR CUSTOMIZATION AND UNLOCK ARMOR THRU EFFORT AND CHALLENGES
NO BATTLEPASS OR SHOP
ALL DAY ONE NO BS
People seem to be missing the point. This is basically a recruit ad for their studio. Saying “Hey you don’t have to spend years learning how the tools work, you can just use your unreal knowledge”. Engine switch isn’t about fidelity it’s more about streamlining content production.
Or It shows how they now have a crappy team compared to before, that they can't run their own engine and make a game. probably because incompetent hiring.
@@SillyName4U but then that doesn’t make sense because they fired most of the leadership and the team, and the guy replacing them is the guy who saved halo mcc. So logically that doesn’t make sense.
@@arshdeepsandhu look at the leads and producer. Logically it's not the guy your talking about. You can fire leadership and hire new inexperienced terrible leadership. And yes it doesn't make sense, but sadly happens
Cross you played Concord. You will absolutely play whatever Halo game they come up with.
Lol, true. Especially if it's sponsored.
"graphic showcase .. thats what halo needs to be again" um no, it needs to be a good fucking game -_-
"so you can feel like you're on a hike" I want to feel like I'm in a space war -_-
what else do you expect from the guy that's in charge of graphics?
@@mati_abc fair enough, but if they're only confident in their graphics, then halo is going down the drain again
its just a rebranded 343, fingers crossed something good will come from this but dont get your hopes up
They also axed the entire upper management staff and replaced them, let's be hopeful they made better picks this time and they can recapture Og Bungie energy, it's not like Bungie is even Bungie anymore with how D2 is dying along with all there other projects
The one who is running the team is the guy who saved MCC. That doesn't mean anything right now but it does show some hope. Just wait for gameplay to come out then weigh in your hopes or depression.
All new leadership, that's what matters the most also pretty sure they did a bunch of layoffs as well, trimmed the bad fat now they are hiring new talent, this is a big shake up, I would rather be optimistic and give it a shot, would love to have old halo back
@@spacejammer1991 New leadership is fine but you need to temper your hopes. That won't do anything until we actually see concrete gameplay
@@spacejammer1991 Destiny is not dying not time soon tbh. Even if it did it would be brief because Destiny didn't last 10yrs for no reason 😂.
I love and still semi regularly play Infinite Multiplayer. I enjoyed the campaign as well, granted not near as much as the Bungie ones. But there has been a massive exodus of the old 343 devs. Most if not all the people there now are new and are doing great stuff with infinite! I think the name change just was the final mail in the coffin to distance themselves from the negativity toward 343 and Infinite launch. Hopefully Halo has great days ahead, I’m excited! A bit nervous, but excited!
Yep, Infinite is in a really good place now. I'm still upset they blew it at launch & lost so much of the playerbase but glad they've turned it around.
“We have a studio that’s really passionate about halo”… as they cut core halo content like split screen and make the multiplayer bare bones fry!
Don’t believe a word until they show they can be trusted
Where is the split screen in space marine 2, Last of us 2, Spiderman 2, Doom eternal? I dont hear people bitching about it being absent in any other tentpole shooters! I think its just trendy to hate on everything 343, Halo and Xbox.
what a dumb comparison, none of those games are known for a legacy of splitscreen coop compared to halo
@@megabomb808 Seriously? What a dumb response! Bungie made Halo and transitioned into Destiny! Since that legacy originates with Bungie why doesn't Destiny have split screen coop or split screen multiplayer?? You are being short sighted.
@@megabomb808 infact Halo 5 didn't have split screen coop either so your legacy argument is null
@@shredenvain7The difference is that 343 literally promised that there would be split-screen in Infinite after it was absent in 5. Then they walked it back. That's why people were annoyed.
These guys have failed at every single HALO title they've put out. A name and engine change isn't going to change anything.
343 was fired broski. Management changed, staff changed, this is a whole new studio than the one that launched Infinite.
@@nitsuA_LHyea, tho it would be wise to be skeptical after everything
@@hiroshiarturolopezsashida6071it’s wise to be skeptical about every single triple A development team/company now
This is what Bungie needs badly. New engine , new leadership .
This is a bad opinion. You know who failed, Concord and firesprite studios. They failed. 😂
Halo was what got me into gaming I was a complete super fan. Ive now watched 343 kill it for over a decade. I can't watch this video without it feeling like its complete satire, nothing will convince but an actually good game.
01:15 The Halo 2 theme with Steve Vai still absolutely, unequivocally f’n SLAPS. That’s what makes Halo
Halo died after Bungie left. Let’s not pretend that the corpse that Microsoft has been parading around is the same thing at all
Why halo was so special, it always had a waouh effect:
Discovering unbelievable places coming from mind with other visions (the halo which is a viable landscape, the forerunner floating buildings, light bridges, covenant civilization and use of their strange weapons)
Music has also a big part, which by the theme counted stories and epicness
And finally the fun, with dialogues
Bringing back The Flood is one of the best things they can do. Halo without The Flood is just a generic, Sci Fi shooter
Prioritizing graphics and not experiences is what they’re getting wrong. It looks amazing, and that’s really impressive, but there’s no shot the next Halo ends up great if they aren’t actually putting the actual experience and gameplay first.
These "developers" don't even look like they've worked on halo. They look like Microsoft spokesmen who don't understand what made Halo so cool. It's not the graphics. It's not the technical achievements. It was an amazing storyline and mystique world with characters that had.... character. I don't care how good your graphics are if I don't care about the game.
- Some guy on the internet that knows how to distinguish someone's career by how they look.
@starcraftflyer17 I've worked with developers from 2 companies (one of them owned by Microsoft) in several states, and tbh I only saw a handful of females actually working on games and even less in positions of meaningful power. It's kinda the same when someone says they're a mechanic and doesn't know how to take something apart, but they can spin a ratchet and fit a socket on a bolt head. You can tell they have an idea of what to do/talk about, but they don't really know what they're doing. I would like to add that if your franchise is hanging on by a thread like Halo is, then you're probably going to mention improvements to player feedback before showing (let's call it what it is) an ad for unreal engine. If you're gonna be a game developer, lawyer, doctor, mechanic, truck driver, graphic designer, etc. You're going to walk, talk, and act like one is my point.
I don't think a lot of people realize that most of (if not all) the old 343 leadership is gone, from what I've heard from the people I know who still play halo the new leadership is pretty alright
i also feel like people hate on infinite too much. In my opinion its problems stemmed primarily from a complete lack of content, something that ue5 will more than likely fix. The only thing that remains to be seen is if this new leadership will keep going in the right direction, or if they'll do a 180 and make something stupid or silly.
It's not just leadership, it's devs too, Halo is done either way so not much point going too deep into it.
The new leadership will have the game plastered with pronouns and driven down your throat wokeism. Enjoy
Why does Master Chief look like an Action Figure. He looks so Shiny and Clean. That was my issue with 5, and Infinite. Reach and 3 Armor looked so realistic and rough. War is not Clean and Shiny.
I get the hate but let’s not act like halo 3 armour didn’t look like it was made of plastic lmao
Also going back to the halo 1 look? Like can the nostalgia pandering be any more obvious?
This new look better not be what they're going for with Chief's armor. Infinite's look was better and this feels like a step backwards.
I thought Halo Infinite was as close to OG Halo MP as they can possibly get. I'm not sure how much more it can be improved in order to draw me in like I was before. However, I'll play new story content forever!
They don't need to improve 4v4. They need to get rid of it entirely. The 4v4 sandbox died years ago. Halo 5 warzone was the best 343 multi-player they've done. They need to make a new pvp experience.
@@cephydash1533 Agree.
Halo's PVP formula was simple. Spend 10 -15 minutes battling other people with your friends or a few strangers. Laugh/Get Mad, run for the power weapons, everyone Win/Lose, repeat for 5 hours. It was so much fun. Now it's all about build crafting, goofy gimmicky weapons, sliding and flipping around like a goofball, constantly changing weapons and how they work. The main changes within Halo games were new maps. Same gameplay, just new and improved maps. I never needed to watch a 30 minute video about how I needed to prep my character for anything new in Halo. I simply turned on my XBOX, signed in, chose a cosmetic setup for my Spartan and went to work shooting things. Oh, and made a pee filled toilet with my emblem.
The sky boxes ,lore and fun gunplay all with a great multi-player made halo my first ever game played on the original Xbox the best time ever and it was truly EPIC. I'll never forget it. Bungie and 343 have always had my heart from day 1 and that's why I even play xbox tbh. Forgot to add the environments have always been beautiful. Cheers
No one does a sky box like bungo I'll give them that lol
Still playing OSRS myself! I’m actually very close to maxing! 30 years old and still loving the grind!
Halo3 is the classic and why I play Destiny today! Narrows!
Let's look at the issues that current and past employees of 343 have pointed out:
1. The old heads of 343 that won't let devs do what they want or need to make the games great. They said they've fired people and are looking to hire more some new blood, but nowhere have they placed blame on individuals and nowhere have we heard that the problem individuals were removed.
2. Current and past employees have said that almost if not actually everyone is under an 18 month contract and this leads to a ton of issues as they don't have enough time to get familiar with tools, teams, and overall production of anything promising. You can see how this would be an issue when new faces come into the studio in the middle of changes or fixes and they have no clue what's up and won't have enough time to properly help. We've heard NOTHING about this changing.
3. Microsoft. They regularly push 343 to release projects FAR before they are ready. In fact, the last time we had a "more feature complete" game release, it was Halo 4. Halo 5, MCC, and Infinite all released broken, unfinished, and with major issues. All of this while taking FAR too long to add needed things or changing things to help the health of their games. Nothing said or shown in the last few years suggests that Microsoft has changed, and is it has been made PAINFULLY clear: Microsoft is still at the top and will always have the final say on when things will release, regardless of any needed extended deadlines.
These are the biggest issues that have plagued 343 and continue to do so. They've not acknowledged any of this and as for Microsoft's part in it, they've not spoken about this either. So there is absolutely ZERO evidence to suggest that anything meaningful has changed. I desperately NEED the Halo fanbase to stop enabling this cycle. They keep convincing themselves "THIS IS THE ONE" when it's really not. They then preorder, and when the game isn't good they will STILL keep playing because "I don't have anything else to play" or sunk cost fallacy, or unchecked addiction(which is a major issue within the gaming industry.) And the playtime + money spent enables the studio/Microsoft to keep doing this. It's fucking MIND NUMBING.
number 2 changes by them moving to UE5. They will be hiring people with UE5 experience. with Number 3 you contradict yourself by blaming MS for pushing for earlier releases only for you to the claim that 343 takes forever to put out fixes and content. Again UE5 will help with their ability to push out the content being that the slipspace engine is the tiger engine.
There's a whole new management team and the studio is now led by the guy responsible for saving MCC, the reason they're no longer called 343 is because it's basically a new company. Most of what you said isn't applicable.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is just all assumptions, what if they succeed?
@@NoNameTaken117 except none of what I posted was assumptions and was all reported on by more trustworthy individuals??
@@realtuber101 sorry bad wording, I meant to say that because of all the past negatives and Halo Studios not admitting to what we're the actual causes of 343i's downfall doesn't mean it's over for Halo Studios.
You got to remember that right now they are on a thin line right now, the Halo community is mostly supportive of what's happening however there are still many who are skeptical and for good reason
It's best to judge when the product comes out and the reason why I'm hopeful is because the people who've been running the franchise to the ground have been mostly removed from working with Halo.
However on the note of the rebranding many have started to be toxic just because of woman being prominent in the team or the fact there's a black woman with colored hair working in Halo Studios, while it may seem like a red flag it's not the end and should not be pushed to the side because of looks. Like the old saying goes you can't judge a book by its cover.
I know I'm rambling but it's better to judge the product rather than manufacturer.
halo had splitscreen, uncapped multiplayer fun with customs (with forge also ofc), amazing story and just amazing multiplayer for the time it grew up in.
I don't know if you could do this again, you could get close but online games are different now and peoples attention spans / lives are way different.
Cross has definitely been talking to game developers because everything he was saying throughout the video is accurate. Game engines are not going to magically make a game better or worse depending on which is being used. It's about which engine fits better with the project you're trying to realize. For games like Smite or Dead by Daylight, those were developed in an older verion of unreal engine, so making the transition will come with major benefits. But the tiger engine was developed with a core purpose to develop destiny, so switching to unreal would not only come with limitations, but would also require several employees to waste their years of experience in tiger to learn a brand new engine, which takes time and thus costs money.
The only thing that scares me about the switch to UE is what if they/Microsoft keeps the stupid contractor method going? As in they have 15-18 month "contractors" working on the game, instead of dedicated devs, and then they switch them out for new contractors. REALLY hope we get some sort of consistency.
Grew up with the OG Halo along with 2 & 3 but after those, I kind of stopped playing the series entirely. Spent 100hrs in Halo Infinite for the multiplayer but it never reached that potential that the OG Halo did back in the 2000s. A different era.
Straight up we are going to lose the “FEEL” of halo tho its going to feel like every single other UE5 FPS game with a halo skin
How will it lose its feel? You know nothing yet you're already see it as that. All FPS games look and feel the same to a certain degree. You know what's called? A formula. First person, shoot guns, running, sliding. What will Halo lose going to UE5 that will make it feel like a "Generic" FPS game?
@@heroicxidiot have you played games like this? the halo engine has a distinct "feel" to it; the physics, the look, everything about it. Same thing with the source engine, you can feel when a game is made using source. While it may be subtle, it IS noticeable, and that's enough.
oh, sure, there's a specific formula that's used. but the implementation of the formula is what makes it feel. And the engine has a key part in that implementation. Unless they can figure out how to make UE5 feel like the Blam engine, Halo might lose some of the charm it still has
(I'm not a game designer lmao, this is just random knowledge i may or may not have heard, so take everything with a grain of salt)
They have stated in multiple articles that they are working to keep the games true to what they were. Art, physics everything. Physics was mentioned a lot in the articles plus interviews with Pierre he doesn't want the core Halo experience to be gone, including working on the classic Halo physics. I mean look at Satisfactory for example super floaty game honestly feels like Halo sometimes with the movement. Its something completely different than most standard UE5 games just give em time to cook thats it.
Agreed. UE5 makes everything look nice but soulless and unstylized.
@@heroicxidiot Have you played a single Halo game before?
Being able to focus on the game and not the engine at the same time for future development is a huge change that also invites creativity and forethought! Finally!
I'm glad cross mentions performance cause my pc might run this with a 4070 but my series x would blow up trying to boot this up
What made Halo special was player expression. Players were able to customize their Spartan to their heart’s content, customize the campaign through a variety of skull modifiers, make their own game modes, even their own maps later on through forge.
The problem is that Halo’s core has shifted from that to the competitive scene and micro transactions. Thats why Halo is struggling, not its graphics. If it’s going to survive, it NEEDS to go back to focusing on player expression and providing the tools and resources for that to flourish again. A graphics overhaul isn’t going to accomplish anything.
I think the change is great, I mean it’s not like they were on an upward trajectory, it can’t get worse for them and at least now they have no excuse for something being wrong. Unreal engine 5 works really well and with Microsoft money they can get all the help they need with unreal, plus they can get additional help like making custom modules for halo studios. The next halo will look great for sure and I’m also sure that the performance will be just fine, but the writing, gameplay, tone, atmosphere, etc is all up to halo studios. I’m cautiously hopeful and excited.
The change was made not because the last Halo game looked bad but the effort to get to the point it looked and the maintenance of the engine code base. Switching to an external engines frees resources that can be used for visual fidelity. Furthermore you have the experts besides Epic in house with The Coalition. Those are masters of the Unreal Engine as we all know. As a platform holder and also a big publisher Xbox will assumably get the best support Epic is able to provide for Engine customizations necessary to bring it to a performance level a Halo game needs/deserves. Using Unreal also does not mean you cannot rewrite parts of the engine to your requirements, though it counters the effect of freeing resources as you yourself have to maintain that code base and not Epic.Another important point is the fact that with the change it is easier to get contractors or new talent on board as there is way more experience in the market than for a proprietary engine like Slipspace. I am cautious optimitic that the move is for the better.
Yeah I got really bummed to see the CDPR is moving to UE when Cyberpunk Looks amazing.
Thats cause Red engine is to much of a hassle. I mean think of how long it took them to make the game and the game came out a buggy mess. Red engine is a problem and they are getting rid of it due to, to much dev stress.
At least Halo seems to have a future now. Bungie and Destiny seem to be on a knife's edge.
Watching this because the Saints are cooked
This IS really simple. SOMEHOW BUNGIE (the original bungie) NEEDS TO DO ANOTHER HALO GAME. This would save them, restore the glam to the Halo franchise...AND (I think) satisfy US. Thanks for trying 343. After 10 years of trying to satisfy the itch, it's time to let go. It's time for Bungie to at least try to "come home" to what they introduced to the world. It's time for daddy to come home.
At least for me, the story is what I play halo and destiny for. I loved halo's story up till 4 and then 5 was a rough ride for me. Loved spartan Buck, I really hated where they went with Cortana. I loved the introduction of the banished in HW2 I really hated an off screen death for antag cortana. I'm curious about these new species they introduced in infinite but at this point idk. It will take me a lot to come back to halo. I'm tired of these blind alley stories. I want a more complete narrative arc. I'll read the reviews for the new projects and see the community feedback before I get reinvested.
names have power. changing one has a funny way of bringing greater change with it. hopefully that happens here.
Dude the last major engine upgrade was in beyond light, you can literally see it, I’m not saying they haven’t added things to the engine, for instance loadouts and fireteam finder, they need to do better simple
Now we know what's coming on the Xbox/halo 25th anniversary in 2026 - Halo: Combat Evolved remastered 😍
Halo needed this but i think it might be one of those games that is know for its old games
Halo 4 multiplayer was so badass
There’s something we need to realize here too. This is more of a “We’re hiring” video for those in the field, not entirely for the fans
I dont even remember the story between 4 to Infinite, Halo was golden between 1-3 ODST and Reach 🔥
Whatever dev told you that BS about tiger engine being more sophisticated for destiny than UE5, needs to be questioned further, cause that’s a load of BS.
What they meant to say is, porting over all the systems used in tiger to UE would take quite a bit of resources and time, which the leadership team at Bungie doesn’t want to do.
Destiny porting over to UE would allow so much more options for spectical that’s it’s insanity.
No
Why port Destiny 2 to a new engine and not just develop a new one. Destiny 2 is just too ingrained in the tiger engine to ever be ported, at that point it would need to be remade from scratch which is dumb.
@@nicholaslowe2401 The reason why is dev time, as cross said in the video. They have to actively dev the engine so it take time and resources away from the game. Porting would do the same thing, they could port the game over but that also cost time and money plus reconfiguring a lot of systems.
@@nicholaslowe2401 you’re saying 2 things at once, yet saying the same thing.
The franchise definitely needs a new coat of paint, as the formula itself is, as you say, ingrained…and that formula is stale and horribly outdated.
At the same time, the franchise definitely needs a new game, which would require a new engine.
They can DEFINITELY port existing foundations into UE (abilities, perks, exotics, gunplay etc…), but with the added benefit of having an engine that can realize the potential of the vastness of the universe far better (better skyboxes, enhanced physics, enemy density and AI behavior).
While UE isn’t the only engine available, it definitely is the most widely known and very capable of fulfilling the artistic vision of destiny.
I’m in the camp of making Destiny 3 on a new engine it doesn’t need to be UE5 specifically, however with how much code bloat that Destiny 2 has been stacked with legacy code spanning back all the way to the Blam engine I see little value in spending man time remaking Destiny 2 from almost scratch on a new engine when it would take the same amount of time to just make Destiny 3 which in my opinion is the better option. I want to do more in the game then just explore the limited open worlds or sandbox that can never be expanded because the Tiger engine has a meltdown if Bungie ever tries to add a new perk slots to guns. While we can port or remake Destiny’s foundation using the code used to make the physics, abilities, gunplay, etc it’s better to utilize Unreals better tech such as graphics, memory, AI generation, and offloading engine development costs that could of been spent on building the game rather than reworking the Tiger engine for a fifth time just to buy Destiny 2 another three years on the shelf.
Not getting hyped for a halo again
Halo Combat Evolved was my first game on PC. They say you always remember your first time....certainly true for me. The first time the elite jumped out of the darkness with the sword I almost lost my SH_T. I loved Halo CE, and Halo 2 and Reach. I so wanted the storyline to end with MasterChief and Cortana evolving TOGETHER. When they took Cortana down the dark path, I HATED IT. I felt they betrayed the love story concept and killed it. The best parts of Halo were when Master CHief and Cortana worked together. Who can forget 'Me inside your head now' or 'He flew pretty good- for a brick'. (Sergeant Johnson was epic too).
I want a campaign based story that helps you move along if you get stuck. I don't like games that rely on ytubers to explain everything you can't figure out. I'm hoping for something positive.
New CEO looks like a concord character
Do you even know who the CEO is lol
Your brain is paste in a bowl you call a skull
"...that grind itch." I believe there's a cream for that.
It'd be nice to see the triumphant return of Michael Salvatori. I never cared for infinite, my favorites were reach and 4, and the firefight in halo 5. Hopefully, Halo will come back into the light again
Just bring back peak halo 3, give us forge and custom game modes, give us bungies funniest pictures of the week submitted by players. give us ranked slayer and doubles and swat and let us grind to lvl 50. Halo 3 was absolutely perfect.
Welcome to the Halo Community (hopefully)! I currently make custom campaigns in Infinite, including taking back The White House!
When I saw the BabBoone that is in charge of Halo now, I immediately tanked any expectations.
It's going to suck.
The Halo Slipspace engine that was abandoned from the Tiger engine that Bungie uses
It baffles me how and why microsoft won't give Halo to another one of their studios. 343 has had like 5 chances!
I don't understand why there is so much hype for this. The engine has never been the problem for the 343i Halo titles. A new engine won't all of a sudden fix bad game dev choices.
I've read that there is new leadership at the studio but I don't know.
Its not just a new name, leadership in the company has changed as well. Right now it looks for the better but I will still wait and see what they make. I see the sliver of hope, but I understand why people want to hate.
Its funny how a lot of people says "Infinite is not that bad..." Dude, Infinite causes all of this changes, its the dark spot of 343 legacy. And no Bungielievers, Halo 4 and 5 are not that bad, they´re good halos even if u cry, but Infinite´s multiplayer... damn
Halo 3 and Reach had perfect endings
The team that gave us 4 5 and Infinite are gone. This team was introduced to us around the time season 4 of Infinite came out and they have been working on this project behind the scenes rather than all hands on Infinite. 343i as we knew them is gone, but we’ll just have to wait and see.
I know I will pass away before fruition shows but please Lord lets hope Halo works out
Nah big studios should always be using their own engine, this is like if your local bakery started stocking name brand products.
Not when it’s spaghetti code lol
@@michaelrhernandez2428 I feel like you heard that phrase in a youtube video but dont really know what it means and now u just using it willy-nilly
@@snypes38actually started studying Game Dev/Design recently! But it’s pretty obvious what it means… As a musician and audio engineer, there are similar terms out there!
@@snypes38cooked your dumbass
"As long as there are those who remember what was, there will always be those who cannot accept what can be" Thanos “
They need to start supporting new ips not just redoing successful hits trying to recreate greatness
Would be perfect to come out with next gen in 2028, then they really can push Unreal Engine to the limit
They should have either named themselves Ark Studios or Reach Studios.
I really hope it has the same movement, gun play and overall feel of infinite
Let's hope they figure out how to bring back one of my favorite series. Halo got me into FPS so this series was my starting point and I would love to see it make a comeback.
it was amazing when it was first released and few titles were great afterwards
but that's it imo
please let the franchise die as one of the greats
Engine/graphics are not the current problem. What made halo epic was the INCREDIBLE story. Halo 5/6 gave us absolute garbage that was disjointed and didn’t follow the promotional media. It left massive gaps in continuity. 343’s decision to not have campaign DLC continues to be baffling. It just shows they have zero passion for the game and just want a solely competitive esport like PvP.
Halo needs those hilarious death screams.
If we slow down the pace of this guys talking he sounds exactly like Walter white Jr.
Black girl with purple hair: “intricate stories with meaningful characters”.
We all know what that means.
my fear exactly
That's not fair. We've got a hurricane 😂
Hey guys, if I wanted to experience halo for the first time, what order should I play the games in? Halo was way before my time and I’ve only ever heard good stuff about it
Halo Reach was the last highpoint of the series. Infinites issues weren't cosmetic, I wonder how a studio rebrand and UE5 will remedy them. I don't think the fans want a more pretty Halo infinite.
The real question is, how many are actually there from infinites development? Bc i dnt recognize any of those devs. Everyone seems to be so sure its just 343 renamed halo studios....
Last time I had fun with halo, it wasn’t with 343 😂 I won’t be holding my breath.
I've been seeing this hyped for the past 24 hours and I got to say DON'T fall for the BS, this is still 343 studio
with a name change only and a engine switch nothing else.
The engine they are whining about was only used for Halo Infinite so that doesn't excuse them for Halo 4-5
which the writing and direction of the games sucked, this will be a remake of Halo nothing new because
they lack the talent to create their own Halo story.
The graphics can be great, but do we think they'll make it "for modern audiences" ?
They need to do MORE with the Halo world. Don't just give us a "new" story because we all know it's going to be some generic trash that has already been done by someone else. Don't just give us "new" physics and graphics because I can just go watch an UE5 youtube video for that. Give us something MORE, something that expands the Halo universe beyond just "Master Chief."
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Love all the people on twitter and here who claim themselves "true Halo fans" but they don't even know what the hell has been happening at the company that produces it lol. 3 rounds of lay offs that unfortunately effected the developers, Microsoft completely replacing the executive board of the studio, and then Pierre Hintz taking the CEO spot with Bonnie Ross leaving. It is, quite literally, a brand new studio at this point.
I would pay $$$ to play crossover D2 character in a the Master Chief collection. Play my hunter or warlock against the covenant and flood. Just takes one vex gate and wtf....
Guys don't get your hopes up to much its still 343 just new brand and new engine that was never the problem it's the people in 343 that don't have a clue what there doing and that's not going to change
What made Halo great was Bungie making it. Period.
Some good here, some red flags. Visuals are great but not at the expense of feel or performance.
It definitely needed a shake up. I don't know that we're getting a stoic badass Master Chief from this team but we'll see.
Very very excited for the future of Halo man
Rainbow flags and having people on your team that are afraid to make guns definitely isnt the issue it was the studio name
Runescape and Halo; that's what I wished Destiny was, a perfect mix of the two :/
Idk why people are mad at 343
Had Halo stayed in bungies' hands, it would have ended worse than Destiny 2.