weird choice. a 3080 non-ti would've performed within 2-5% of a 3080 ti, and would've been 500$ cheaper. the performance results would largely remain unchanged, while the 3080 would appear as a better deal.
@@d4nith3 I have an EVGA 1000 G2 Supernova PSU. I also live in Canada where electricity is cheap because it comes from clean sources like CANDU and hydro. I don't give a damn about a little extra power draw. You can always tell when someone is clueless about tech and hopelessly in love with nVidia. You sound more than a little butthurt. Sux 2 b u bruh. 🤣
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 The problem is that the RX 6800 wasn't competent at 4K which means it can't be the best card of the generation. The RX 6900 XT is only 8% faster than the 6800 XT (which puts them in the same performance tier) but cost hundreds more. OTOH the RX 6900 XT is a full 22% faster than the RX 6800 which puts it two true tiers higher. There's also the fact that the RX 6800 XT was a BETTER VALUE than the RX 6800. Don't believe me? The RX 6800 XT was only 12% more expensive than the RX 6800 but was 14% faster. The MSRP of the RX 6800 XT was $649 while the RX 6800 was $579. Value doesn't normally increase with price, it decreases but the RX 6800 XT really bucked that trend.
I got the 6900XT for 900 bucks when it first fell under 1000 bucks. I worked two 80 hour weeks due to an emergency at work and it was a great purchase. I still use that card, now on a 4k 60 hz tv
The RX 6000 series was the most competitive AMD lineup since the R9 200s era. AMD could compete even at high end while offering more VRAM. Meanwhile, on the RX 8000 series, AMD wont even have a high end option...
I think it's fine really as long as the 8000 series provide good value. If they lean into being the good value option for people on the low-mid end (which Nvidia basically doesn't care about anymore) then they can increase their market share.
@@NoThisIsntMyChannel At least the top end will be 64 CU's. Less than id prefer from a monolithic dye since the 6900xt had 80 CU's and was still monolithic, but better than stopping at 40 CU's like they did last time they skipped the high end.
If they make a gpu a bit stronger than a 4070 ti super for 500 or stronger than 4080 super for 600 then i'd say they got a shot as long as they release em this year
When the limited brains figure out that team green pulled a scam stunt with the RT gimmick all will turn to team red for gaming. NVidia has turned their ressorces to generative AI and upscaling rather then to compete against AMD for RAW power. It's like comparing the electric car to an old Mustang in tourque at quarter mile....
I have the standard 3080FE which I was actually able to get at MSRP over 3 years ago. I recently paired it with a 5700X3D and at 1440P, it's still going strong. I'm most likely going to upgrade to the 5080 which I'm hoping is at least 4090 performance with 16gb of Vram at $999.99 USD but that could be wishful thinking with Team Green.. Great videos!
@@einarbakkerud3742 O God no. That would be an epic fail. $1200 max is my prediction otherwise it's a confirmation of a big fuck you to gamers from Nvidia.
I'm a RX6800 owner, and I am super happy about the amount of VRAM I got. Playing mostly at ridiculous resolutions in VR I often end up utilizing 13-14GB of VRAM. Even though games like HL: Alyx has exceptional texture streaming. It wasn't until I had 16GB where I could run the game, and all its mods without any meaningful stutters.
I’m not sure why I’m so interested in these videos, they’re literally just graphs with gameplay in the background every time, yet I still tune into most videos😭
I think he's been giving Nvidia an upper hand in this serious, but the fix to that isn't giving AMD the upper hand. The 3080ti is 2 entire GPU's below the best, the 3090ti, while also having not the best AMD GPU the 6950xt. Based on a lot of reviews, and tomshardware GPU hierarchy, the 6950xt and 3090ti are basically tied at 1440p.
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 Oh I don't agree with that assessment at all. I think that the RX 6800 XT would destroy the RX 6900 XT in this competition. The RX 6900 XT is about 8% faster than the 6800 XT but 54% more expensive. The RX 6800 XT is the card that he should have used. Incidentally, it would've been appropriate because there were two cards above the RX 6800 XT just like there were two cards above the RTX 3080 Ti. The RTX 3090 and RTX 4090 Ti were the top GeForce cards while the RX 6900 XT and RX 6950 XT were the top Radeons. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the RX 6800 XT is the ONLY card that is a worthy opponent for the GTX 1080 Ti. Its performance and value are just incredible.
I got my 6900xt for MSRP for 1k.. my buddies got their 3080s for 1700 and 1850 respectively. I never seriously considered an Nvidia card ever again and likely never will. Their price gouging, whether on them or their board integrators is just an insult.
@@cozmorules6983 .. lol there's literally a chart showing them being scalped for over 2k in THIS VIDEO. the Radeon could be obtained for either small premium or waiting in line for MSRP which is what I did. The first buddy I'm talking about waited to snipe an EVGA for "only" 500 something over MSRP. That's like .. just a fact. I don't know why you're capping 😭😂
Yeah unless you have F U money or use a gpu for your job or something buying Nvidia makes less and less sense for most people. It's too bad most people just don't consider AMD because of the perception their drivers are bad (they're not now) like it was 6-7 years ago.
Wow your buddies made really questionable purchasing decisions. I just bought a used 6900 XT for 400 and I'm so excited for the performance over my GTX 1070.
As an RTX 3090 Ti owner, I am pretty disappointed in seeing what NVIDIA has done with their 3000 series cards: they’re still really powerful but it don’t seem like they care about them at all, hence why Black Myth: Wukong’s performance were abysmal when compared to equivalent 4000 series cards…
This really made me miss my 6900 XT. I don't regret downgrading to a 3060, I needed the money and the lower TDP is nice, but it was so nice to set my games to 4k and high/max presets and not worry about FPS and fine-tuning settings
@@Yardo ahh gotcha. It would definitely be worth the upgrade but i cant swing spending 250 on tech rn :/ definitely worth keeping in mind for the future tho, maybe in a few more paychecks
Cant wait for the RX 6950 XT and 3090 Ti to be glossed over in the 2022 review since they came out in Early 2022 and were instantly made obsolete by their next-gen counterparts
I don't think he has a 4080 or a 7900xtx. I mean, he has a 7900xt, but I don't think that would be a fair comparison since the xtx started out 200$ cheaper at 1000$. Plus, the 4090 was more popular and performant than the 3090, so it's more arguable for that to be Nvidia's entry.
@@ronchum5178 not the point of my comment at all, but I still agree with you. He didn't do the best GPUs of 2020 review so that he wouldn't have to go out and buy an RTX 3090
Based on Iceberg's criteria, no card from the Ampere / RDNA2 generation even comes close to the RX 6800 XT. The RX 6900 XT was only 7% faster than the RX 6800 XT but was 54% more expensive. In this competition, the RX 6800 XT would be the only card to have a chance against the GTX 1080 Ti.
@@AvroBellowIm late to the conversation but I literally commented the same on scattervolts channel awhile ago about that card. The 6800xt is an anomaly for the 6000series lineup and maybe the 1080ti version of AMD. They won't make another card like that one ever again! Trade blows or even sometimes beat the newer 7800xt Totally blows off its old competitor 3080 out of the water And beats even the 4070 in raster performance on almost all games. Can even under volt it with no performance loss and can play all games max settings at 1440p and even 4k
3080 Ti enjoyer, here. I got it for $900 at a local retailer open box back when they were going for $1500 online due to AI and covid. I got it specifically for VR an CUDA, and it still absolutely slays for both.
@eddezz same here, I had to repaste my 6900xtxh chip though, 40 degree delta, now it's 12-20. I also washermodded it. Memory is unstable anything past 2150 mhz.
Both of these cards can be found for weirdly cheap in my area. I’ve seen 6900xts dip down into the low $400s range a couple times. Making it an amazing medium budget card. On the used market there seems to be a heavy Nvidia tax for newer cards though, making them almost unviable on a tighter budget.
When I had seen all the reviews about the 3080ti, I put it out of my mind and didn't think I'd get an Ampere series card at MSRP. As Cyberpunk, Metro Exodus and RE 3 Remake taxed my poor GTX 970, it was time for an upgrade. I visited Microcenter and ended up picking an EVGA 3080ti open box on extra sale for 3080 MSRP + tax. That was honestly the best decision and I don't regret it. There were 6900 XTs as well and as much as I would have enjoyed the extra VRAM, I think the DLSS benefit has been fantastic.
I bought a reference 6950XT a few months ago for $505 shipped from eBay. Mainly because it has a type c video out for my oculus 2 and I had a HD6950 back in 2011. It's been a good card, played more Diablo 4 than VR gaming but it handles 3440x1440 with everything cranked pretty high around 130-140 fps. My brain still explodes looking at it and thinking back to D1 graphics.
This is literally one of, if not the most disappointing video on this channel. Almost like it was for the thesis about radeon supremacy. In this segment it's not fair to skip rt performance. It's also not fair to skip upscaling topic, where geforce is much better. And last but not least, this is basically the 4070/4070s segment. It's still far from being obsolete. Your games choice should go until today and beyond.
Still rocking my 3080ti which I bought 2nd hand for $600 last 2022 just when the pandemic was ending. I haven't found any game that can make this card struggle or dip below 60 fps at 1440p so I wont be upgrading this bad boy anytime soon.
I kind of expected this...yet there is something I find bizarre here: Playstation ports, designed for RDNA2, run poorer on RDNA2 than a "foreign" architecture, while for almost any other game, it's the opposite.
@@JEdVcM that baffles me to this day. the very reason there was no 5800XT or anything beyond 5700XT in it's hayday is the PS5 and Xbox Series APU that swooped the production partially. but also PlayStation's OS is completely different than Windows so that's probably why. intentionally, unintentionally? who can say with 100% certainty which is it. maybe the rework studios are to blame for it. because more often than not it's not the same publisher that made the port as the OG game.
Anyone that's kept up with PC hardware over the past few years know that AMD is now competitive or even ahead in raster performance, while Nvidia goes and focuses more on other features. So in raw performance per dollar, AMD has been known to be ahead on that front, but the actual comparison now between the two is... blurred, if other factors are taken into account. It's less straightforward, really. Also, the argument of driver stability between the two, for whatever that might be worth.
I need good advise. I've bought used RTX 3070 for 225$ working and in great condition couple of month ago(because deal was in my city and for best price for the moment). Still no PC for it and I need a job first. In my region I can already find used 3080 - 3080ti for 310$-360$ but I would need to test them before buying. Should I try to sell my 3070 now or keep it? (I have planned to upgrade it like 1 year after PC build to used 4080 or smth)...
You bought a GPU without a computer lined up and no job to provide an income for buying parts? Honestly, just sell the 3070 ASAP while it still has some value, find employment, and save up for new midrange parts next gen with a warranty. You don't have enough money to be gambling on used parts lasting you a while.
the thing i love about my rx 6899 xt is its overclockability. mine can draw over 320 watts and becomes an absoloute beast. Its also just more fun for me to tinker with it instead of the limited tuning you get with with nvidia
This video has shown, at least to me that there's definitely a greater driver overhead cost with the RTX 3080 ti over the 6900XT as those 1080P results in particular are impressive stuff from the 6900XT.
*rewatching this real quick as in my country both these cards are within 1% of pricing meaning you don't lose when going for either unless the latest and greatest titles are what you are focused on which need more VRAM however at 1080p 12gigs is still fine so i feel whichever card i can get for a better deal is the key and not which benched the best here*
I can barely be bothered to play games any more but am a gear slut so here I am... Kingdom Come Deliverance, despite some jank, was well worth my very limited gaming time. A gem. Thanks for yet another solid video
After 2 founder 3080Tis failing on me, going through the RMA, Nvidia admitting manufacture defect with cheap MLC capacitors, and then only offering me a _partial refund,_ I ditched Nvidia and snagged a 6950XT in summer of 2022 and have been loving AMD since. Ray Tracing is entirely useless in gaming still, as it's still in its infancy, and will be for at least 5 more years. So RT performance disparity between Nvidia and AMD ignored, AMD is far greater cost-to-performance; and for those gamers switching en-mas to Linux, Driver support is still years ahead of Nvidia.
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights The 3090 is a halo product, meaning the absolute top tier of consumer grade cards. It's priced and has specs more in line with a titan card. The difference is that if someone bought a 3080ti, they could at least pretend that they didn't spend a crap ton.
Anyone know which i should get ? Im saving up, the 6900 xt has worse ray tracing but i have a 1080p 165 hz monitor, and i assume on that it would acrually have good ray tracing peformance probably better than my 3060 ti, i plan to stay on 1080p for a few years
Using old drivers for these comparisons doesn't make sense. If someone were to buy either of these cards on the used market, they'd use the latest. As it stands, you're just rehashing the numbers from the year of release with a stronger CPU.
The purpose of The GOAT Project is to pit the best GPUs from each generation against each other in order to decide which is the greatest of all time. If you're looking for more practical buying advice, I've already reviewed the RTX 3080 Ti and RX 6900 XT in 2023 and 2024 games, using the latest drivers at the time those videos were made. I'll update the description to include links to those videos.
I had a Power Color Red Devil 6900XT I got for $1100 when it came out at Micro Center. I upgraded to a 4090, but that 6900 is still a beast. It is in my friend's PC.
Ghostwire Tokyo hiccups could have been Denuvo related, since it was added later, just before DLC, and we all know what Denuvo did to village before it was removed
What this video has shown me is that almost every game that I want to play is from before 2023 or a good port of a pre-2023 console release. Nvidia's biggest problem might be that fewer people want to play the latest AAA output (see especially the last two big Star Wars games)
The 6950XT is 5 to 10% faster and draws a bit more power, the 6900XT would also never match the 6950XT since the 6950XT has faster memory. If buying brand new or if not much more expensive go for the 7900GRE, I would also opt for a 7800XT over a 6900XT and possibly even a 6950XT if around similar price, you would always want to go for the latest generation even if a little slower because of extra features support and power characteristics, they will also be better geared for future games while being fast enough already for older games. If going used there is also the 6800XT, its not much slower than the 6900XT and can be had for cheaper, the 6800XT has fewer active cores with around 95% the performance of the 6900XT. Basically: 7900GRE > 6950XT > 7800XT = 6900XT > 6800XT
I have one of the rarest 6900XT, It is from a fairly unknown brand "Sonnettech" in theory it was designed to work with MAC and I bought it second-hand for only 550usd practically new
@@inkredebilchina9699 Well it is true there really wasn’t an AMD card in its league, but the 7900XTX was its closest competitor (and it beat it in MW2 for a while)
@@ultamate4734 me personally don't think the XTX card is beating the 4080 Super nowadays, maybe the OG 4080 but not Super. could be interesting to see them trade blows, but that too would have to be Raytraceless test.
Lovely video but I would prefer tests with everything maxed out including RT. Who buys a $1500+ card to play atmospheric single player games at these preset settings (or 1080p)
The Champion is here, get RX 6900 XT for 220$ from RTX 2060 Super, and It was such an upgrade for this money! Now I can play 4K/60 solid lock, thanks AMD.
The 6900XT was a welcome return to form after many years of not getting close to Nvidia's top cards. However, the real "goats" of that generation were the 6800XT and 3080, which gave you most of the performance of the top cards at a fraction of the price. If covid and crypto didn't disrupt prices, those two were probably the last time high end gaming was relatively affordable
My old 6900 XT runs great in my Dad's rig these days und I'm still very happy with my 6950 XT. We both play on Linux and all the bad games are thankfully "gifts" from the Epic Store. The only time I ever used RT is for Photo Mode in Cyberpunk 2077 and for that it's good enough 🙂I honestly find that reflective shit rather annoying during gameplay.
3080 ti owner here, I paid $550 (more than I would’ve liked) about a year and a half ago now but I got probably the single coolest model, the palit gamerock which is impossible to find in the USA
This video is making me question whether or not I should wait until the RX 8000 series GPUs come out or to take my chances in a 6000 series GPU. I'm working with a budget of roughly $320-370.
i have a rog 6900xt with water cooler should i change the 6900xt into 3080ti ? nvidia graphics are way more better than the amd graphics in renderimg almost 2 times in 3080ti and the 6900xt
To be honest. I dont think games will be created without FSR or DLSS anymore. All big games are using it. Microssoft announced a Direct-X update Upscaling/frame Gen being easy to add on games. This thing about "raw performance" makes no sense in my mind. Ray Tracing is just another slider on game menu, and people who buy new cards dont want to turn things off. It was the same when PhysX got on borderlands 2, my gtx 650ti could play the games, but the radeon 7770 could not.
I know you just uploaded and you're probably resting, I just gotta ask. You think a RX 6700 XT or RX 6800 XT is a good pair with my Ryzen 7 5600g and 1080p monitor?
I think either is a good buy, but if you're looking for a longer term solution it might be worth going for the 6700 XT and putting the money you save into a Ryzen 5700X3D. That should take you through at least the next GPU update cycle, maybe more!
Got myself a 3080Ti a couple of weeks ago used for 400 Euros. Sold my 3070 for 270. It was an excellent upgrade until something more serious arrives. I had to upgrade the VRAM, 8GB is really not enough anymore for 1440p.
My daily driver, RX 6900XT is a beast! Can run almost anything at ultra settings. With some workarounds and overclock i can play even Cyberpunk 2077 with pathtracing.
This is actually very surprising I do wonder why AMD has a lead from 2018 to 2021 then as soon as it hits 2022 the 3080 ti takes over. Very interesting I wonder if this applies to 2023 and 2024 as well and how they both react to unreal 5 games.
1) I have owned the 6900 XT for a while, and the idea of selling it to buy a 6950 XT just for a small memory overclock didn't seem worth it. 2) I took a poll asking which GPU was the successor to the 2080 Ti. The 3080 Ti won.
Iceberg Tech : the true competitor to the RX 6900 XT was the RTX 3090 24GB....whereas the RX 6950 XT was faster (due to its 18 GBPs memory) and it had to be compared to the RTX 3090 Ti 24GB. I personally have the RX 6900 XT 16GB and a 5 Manli RTX 3080 Ti 12GB cards....have been playing on both of them for the past 2 years....and the RTX 3080 Ti 12GB is no match for AMD in any rasterized game at any resolution....it's simply not in the same league. The 3080 Ti 12GB is in practice around 30-40 % slower. Your benchmarks show to little of a difference compared to the real world difference.
wow. i did not know about this. well at that time, it's very hard to get a gpu. because of the price even from non scalpers. because the stores and distributor themself raises the prices for the GPU. at that time i bought my 6600xt for more than 5 times the price of when i bought my RX 580. i thought that 3080 TI beats 6900XT. like they used to. no wonder nvidia released the 3090. currently using RX 6800 non XT (i hate having to write the non XT thing). that i bought for quite cheap after the mining crashed. i wonder if i need to upgrade to RX 6800 XT. just so that i don't need to write non XT part. i sold my 6600XT for about the price of old price of a brand new RX 580.
I think another good point of comparison would be power consumption. I have an AMD and Nvidia card from this generation. (RX6800 and RTX3090) And the AMD card draws much less power at same resolution(1440p) with a capped framerate.
(If I sound a bit weird at times it this one, it's because I picked up a chest infection while on holiday)
hope you get better and i barely even noticed
np
Pro tip. Don't pick up infections lying around the floor. You might get sick.
Get well soon!
Why is a 6900 series competing against a 3080 series? It should be 3090 series, and since XT, it's the 3090 Ti
weird choice. a 3080 non-ti would've performed within 2-5% of a 3080 ti, and would've been 500$ cheaper.
the performance results would largely remain unchanged, while the 3080 would appear as a better deal.
3080ti owner reporting, playing at 4k: I got the card used, as a gift. Would have never payed full price. But I’m not disappointed by any means.
almost bought one myself befvore i bought the 4090
Great product, just bad price
I'll probably use mine til it dies
A beast!
I got one for 450 the other day
Got a 6950XT at $650 and the 3080TI was over $1000 at the time of my purchase. $350 for a better Ray Tracing performance wasn't worth it imo
agreed. that's why i picked RX 6800. rather than nvidia equivalent. because of the 16GB of VRAM.
@@DMDMDM7that card is a killer deal, I have one myself and runs like a dream
@@jerphf2096 agreed. but i hate having to write down non XT part. because if i do not say the non XT part, sometimes there are people asking "XT ?"
and this comparison has the 6900xt, 69 *50* xt even outperforms 3090's
still, only 4 games currently offer anything with RT and it's more likely 4080+DLSS+FG type of RT
Was half expecting him to refer to the 6900xt exclusively with soixante-neuf-hundred xt 😅
Thought about it, but I guess I'm just not French enough 😢
@@IcebergTechthank goodness for that
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@@IcebergTech « Six-mille-neuf-cent » 💀💀💀
@@IcebergTech Proud Bri'ish moment. 😎
Not quite at the same spec, but i just upgraded from a Arc A580 to an RX 6800 XT. Wild difference between the two and im very happy with team red!
You got a new-ish A580 and already changed it?
they were the same MSRP so that's why they are being compared.
@@raresmacovei8382 I got the A580 as a holdover upgrade from an RX-580, then upgraded to a stronger card when I started working for the summer
If you got lucky with your 6800 XT and tune it right it comes verry very close to most 6900 XTs
What's really funny is that, in value, the RX 6800 XT mops both of these cards. I still have mine as a backup card to my RX 7900 XTX.
Hopw u like the +400W power draw on the 7900xtx
I think the 6800 non xt was the king of the generation, but the XT was still a killer card
@@d4nith3 Probably better than he would like the 600+ watts on a 4090
@@d4nith3 I have an EVGA 1000 G2 Supernova PSU. I also live in Canada where electricity is cheap because it comes from clean sources like CANDU and hydro. I don't give a damn about a little extra power draw.
You can always tell when someone is clueless about tech and hopelessly in love with nVidia. You sound more than a little butthurt. Sux 2 b u bruh. 🤣
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 The problem is that the RX 6800 wasn't competent at 4K which means it can't be the best card of the generation. The RX 6900 XT is only 8% faster than the 6800 XT (which puts them in the same performance tier) but cost hundreds more. OTOH the RX 6900 XT is a full 22% faster than the RX 6800 which puts it two true tiers higher.
There's also the fact that the RX 6800 XT was a BETTER VALUE than the RX 6800. Don't believe me? The RX 6800 XT was only 12% more expensive than the RX 6800 but was 14% faster. The MSRP of the RX 6800 XT was $649 while the RX 6800 was $579. Value doesn't normally increase with price, it decreases but the RX 6800 XT really bucked that trend.
Great work mate, it's clearly noticeable how much effort you're always putting into your test ;)
I got the 6900XT for 900 bucks when it first fell under 1000 bucks. I worked two 80 hour weeks due to an emergency at work and it was a great purchase. I still use that card, now on a 4k 60 hz tv
The RX 6000 series was the most competitive AMD lineup since the R9 200s era. AMD could compete even at high end while offering more VRAM. Meanwhile, on the RX 8000 series, AMD wont even have a high end option...
I think it's fine really as long as the 8000 series provide good value. If they lean into being the good value option for people on the low-mid end (which Nvidia basically doesn't care about anymore) then they can increase their market share.
@@NoThisIsntMyChannel At least the top end will be 64 CU's. Less than id prefer from a monolithic dye since the 6900xt had 80 CU's and was still monolithic, but better than stopping at 40 CU's like they did last time they skipped the high end.
If they make a gpu a bit stronger than a 4070 ti super for 500 or stronger than 4080 super for 600 then i'd say they got a shot as long as they release em this year
When the limited brains figure out that team green pulled a scam stunt with the RT gimmick all will turn to team red for gaming.
NVidia has turned their ressorces to generative AI and upscaling rather then to compete against AMD for RAW power.
It's like comparing the electric car to an old Mustang in tourque at quarter mile....
I have the standard 3080FE which I was actually able to get at MSRP over 3 years ago. I recently paired it with a 5700X3D and at 1440P, it's still going strong. I'm most likely going to upgrade to the 5080 which I'm hoping is at least 4090 performance with 16gb of Vram at $999.99 USD but that could be wishful thinking with Team Green.. Great videos!
More like 1,500 bucks for the 5080 ;) But hey i would love to be surprised
@@einarbakkerud3742 O God no. That would be an epic fail. $1200 max is my prediction otherwise it's a confirmation of a big fuck you to gamers from Nvidia.
hahahah when they can sell basically the same silicon as an "AI Card" for 5k ...
I'm predicting it will be 4080 non-Super priced.
I'm a RX6800 owner, and I am super happy about the amount of VRAM I got. Playing mostly at ridiculous resolutions in VR I often end up utilizing 13-14GB of VRAM. Even though games like HL: Alyx has exceptional texture streaming. It wasn't until I had 16GB where I could run the game, and all its mods without any meaningful stutters.
I’m not sure why I’m so interested in these videos, they’re literally just graphs with gameplay in the background every time, yet I still tune into most videos😭
Same, I've been watching iceberg for two years and I have no idea why I'm so interested!
Ah the rx6900xt, the card im using currently!
I think he's been giving Nvidia an upper hand in this serious, but the fix to that isn't giving AMD the upper hand. The 3080ti is 2 entire GPU's below the best, the 3090ti, while also having not the best AMD GPU the 6950xt. Based on a lot of reviews, and tomshardware GPU hierarchy, the 6950xt and 3090ti are basically tied at 1440p.
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 Oh I don't agree with that assessment at all. I think that the RX 6800 XT would destroy the RX 6900 XT in this competition. The RX 6900 XT is about 8% faster than the 6800 XT but 54% more expensive. The RX 6800 XT is the card that he should have used. Incidentally, it would've been appropriate because there were two cards above the RX 6800 XT just like there were two cards above the RTX 3080 Ti. The RTX 3090 and RTX 4090 Ti were the top GeForce cards while the RX 6900 XT and RX 6950 XT were the top Radeons.
In fact, I would go so far as to say that the RX 6800 XT is the ONLY card that is a worthy opponent for the GTX 1080 Ti. Its performance and value are just incredible.
@@AvroBellow how about the rx 6800 xt and rtx 3080 if both were same price?
same!
I got my 6900xt for MSRP for 1k.. my buddies got their 3080s for 1700 and 1850 respectively. I never seriously considered an Nvidia card ever again and likely never will. Their price gouging, whether on them or their board integrators is just an insult.
There is no time in history was the 6900xt $1000 and the 3080 was 1700/1850. Your friend must have bought at a different time than when you bought.
@@cozmorules6983 .. lol there's literally a chart showing them being scalped for over 2k in THIS VIDEO. the Radeon could be obtained for either small premium or waiting in line for MSRP which is what I did. The first buddy I'm talking about waited to snipe an EVGA for "only" 500 something over MSRP. That's like .. just a fact. I don't know why you're capping 😭😂
Yeah unless you have F U money or use a gpu for your job or something buying Nvidia makes less and less sense for most people. It's too bad most people just don't consider AMD because of the perception their drivers are bad (they're not now) like it was 6-7 years ago.
Wow your buddies made really questionable purchasing decisions. I just bought a used 6900 XT for 400 and I'm so excited for the performance over my GTX 1070.
Some driver updates do suck and I have a 6950xt. 😂 @@Flyon86 the newest one is pretty solid tho.
Loved the video, as usual, can’t wait for the finale!
P.S: description still mentions this video as part 4 of the GOAT project, it’s part 5.
As an RTX 3090 Ti owner, I am pretty disappointed in seeing what NVIDIA has done with their 3000 series cards: they’re still really powerful but it don’t seem like they care about them at all, hence why Black Myth: Wukong’s performance were abysmal when compared to equivalent 4000 series cards…
This really made me miss my 6900 XT. I don't regret downgrading to a 3060, I needed the money and the lower TDP is nice, but it was so nice to set my games to 4k and high/max presets and not worry about FPS and fine-tuning settings
You could sell that 3060 for $150 and buy a used 6900xt for $250 now. Definitely worth it.
@@Yardo thats a crazy good deal! Where did you see one for that price? Ebay seems to have them for around $400 as far as i can tell (in the US)
@@Shadowauratechno oh sorry I meant $400 hahaha I was saying that it would be a $250 upgrade. Lol
@@Shadowauratechno but clearly worth it. No offense but the 3060 is a trash tier gpu (which you obviously know since you’ve seen the alternative)
@@Yardo ahh gotcha. It would definitely be worth the upgrade but i cant swing spending 250 on tech rn :/ definitely worth keeping in mind for the future tho, maybe in a few more paychecks
Big ups for including Kingdom Come Deliverance! =D
Cant wait for the RX 6950 XT and 3090 Ti to be glossed over in the 2022 review since they came out in Early 2022 and were instantly made obsolete by their next-gen counterparts
I don't think he has a 4080 or a 7900xtx. I mean, he has a 7900xt, but I don't think that would be a fair comparison since the xtx started out 200$ cheaper at 1000$. Plus, the 4090 was more popular and performant than the 3090, so it's more arguable for that to be Nvidia's entry.
@@ronchum5178 not the point of my comment at all, but I still agree with you. He didn't do the best GPUs of 2020 review so that he wouldn't have to go out and buy an RTX 3090
Based on Iceberg's criteria, no card from the Ampere / RDNA2 generation even comes close to the RX 6800 XT. The RX 6900 XT was only 7% faster than the RX 6800 XT but was 54% more expensive. In this competition, the RX 6800 XT would be the only card to have a chance against the GTX 1080 Ti.
@@RobloxianX Oh, I think I responded to the wrong comment lol
@@AvroBellowIm late to the conversation but I literally commented the same on scattervolts channel awhile ago about that card. The 6800xt is an anomaly for the 6000series lineup and maybe the 1080ti version of AMD. They won't make another card like that one ever again!
Trade blows or even sometimes beat the newer 7800xt
Totally blows off its old competitor 3080 out of the water
And beats even the 4070 in raster performance on almost all games.
Can even under volt it with no performance loss and can play all games max settings at 1440p and even 4k
Went from a RX 6650 XT to a RX 7900 GRE (literally rx 6900 xt but 7000 features) and the performance was essentially doubled.
this worries me, because my 3070 is double the sons rx6600 and i just grabbed 6900xt on ebay for 200 bucks
Maybe I don't get something, but why not the RX 6950 XT vs RTX 3090 Ti? Surely those cards were the "flagship" releases?
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Poca diferencia, no salió muy buena la 6950 xt es una 6900 disfrazada
3080 Ti enjoyer, here. I got it for $900 at a local retailer open box back when they were going for $1500 online due to AI and covid. I got it specifically for VR an CUDA, and it still absolutely slays for both.
Got basically a NIB 6900XT from Microcenter's "open box" list back in December 2021 for $650. Best GPU investment I've made in my entire life so far.
The 6900XTXH still goes nuts even today. 2.5GHz at 1.1 volts does not even hit 60 degrees under air (edge)
Run 2.5Ghz at 1.125v on my normal 6900 XT with the same temps. Also run my memory with 2150mhz and fast timings.
6900XTXH is wild
@eddezz same here, I had to repaste my 6900xtxh chip though, 40 degree delta, now it's 12-20. I also washermodded it. Memory is unstable anything past 2150 mhz.
@@mustangmanx yeah i did the same got some PTM7950 like a 2 weeks after i got the card.
I have the rx6900xt toxic le, runs 2.7ghz and 2150mhz memory at 1.175v, gpu 50c-60c, hotspot 70c-80c, might need repasting to lower temps 😅
So what i learned is i just need a platform upgrade. Thx 🙏 you so much this video rocked!
Both of these cards can be found for weirdly cheap in my area. I’ve seen 6900xts dip down into the low $400s range a couple times. Making it an amazing medium budget card. On the used market there seems to be a heavy Nvidia tax for newer cards though, making them almost unviable on a tighter budget.
Yeah I've seen that too I saw a 6900 xt for 400 bucks on the dot on eBay
Great video, looking forward to the 2080ti ray tracing video as I have a 2080ti but never turn on ray tracing.
what about GOAT mid tier 2021 card? Oh my beloved 6700xt, they could NEVER make me hate you
It's still a great mid-end card
I kinda regret choosing my 3060 ti over the 6700 xt two months ago, but I also do really like the ray tracing performance tbh
When I had seen all the reviews about the 3080ti, I put it out of my mind and didn't think I'd get an Ampere series card at MSRP. As Cyberpunk, Metro Exodus and RE 3 Remake taxed my poor GTX 970, it was time for an upgrade. I visited Microcenter and ended up picking an EVGA 3080ti open box on extra sale for 3080 MSRP + tax. That was honestly the best decision and I don't regret it. There were 6900 XTs as well and as much as I would have enjoyed the extra VRAM, I think the DLSS benefit has been fantastic.
i just upgraded from a 6650xt to a 6800xt for £150 it does really well in 1440p
The 6000 series has turned into a used market beast. The 6800xt being particularly worth it
I bought a reference 6950XT a few months ago for $505 shipped from eBay. Mainly because it has a type c video out for my oculus 2 and I had a HD6950 back in 2011. It's been a good card, played more Diablo 4 than VR gaming but it handles 3440x1440 with everything cranked pretty high around 130-140 fps. My brain still explodes looking at it and thinking back to D1 graphics.
Thank you. I always wondered who used the Type C out. Makes sense.
This is literally one of, if not the most disappointing video on this channel. Almost like it was for the thesis about radeon supremacy. In this segment it's not fair to skip rt performance. It's also not fair to skip upscaling topic, where geforce is much better. And last but not least, this is basically the 4070/4070s segment. It's still far from being obsolete. Your games choice should go until today and beyond.
Still rocking my 3080ti which I bought 2nd hand for $600 last 2022 just when the pandemic was ending. I haven't found any game that can make this card struggle or dip below 60 fps at 1440p so I wont be upgrading this bad boy anytime soon.
Huh, I would not have expected this outcome one bit. It feels a bit like a reverse bizzaro type universe situation
I kind of expected this...yet there is something I find bizarre here: Playstation ports, designed for RDNA2, run poorer on RDNA2 than a "foreign" architecture, while for almost any other game, it's the opposite.
@@JEdVcM that baffles me to this day. the very reason there was no 5800XT or anything beyond 5700XT in it's hayday is the PS5 and Xbox Series APU that swooped the production partially. but also PlayStation's OS is completely different than Windows so that's probably why. intentionally, unintentionally? who can say with 100% certainty which is it. maybe the rework studios are to blame for it. because more often than not it's not the same publisher that made the port as the OG game.
It’s a good day when iceberg posts
Someone's discovered their free Epic library....
Bros gonna have to shell out 3000 dollars for the best of 2022💀
Sittin' happy with my 6650XTs
One on each computer of mine.
The video we expected.
Anyone that's kept up with PC hardware over the past few years know that AMD is now competitive or even ahead in raster performance, while Nvidia goes and focuses more on other features. So in raw performance per dollar, AMD has been known to be ahead on that front, but the actual comparison now between the two is... blurred, if other factors are taken into account. It's less straightforward, really.
Also, the argument of driver stability between the two, for whatever that might be worth.
6900 XT on Pop OS butter smooth
I love this series and because of it I bought a vega 56, I didn’t even know about it and now I love it.
will there be a benchmark test for the cpu of that time as well? i mean like for the 3700x, 5800x, and their intel counterpart etc.
I need good advise. I've bought used RTX 3070 for 225$ working and in great condition couple of month ago(because deal was in my city and for best price for the moment). Still no PC for it and I need a job first. In my region I can already find used 3080 - 3080ti for 310$-360$ but I would need to test them before buying. Should I try to sell my 3070 now or keep it? (I have planned to upgrade it like 1 year after PC build to used 4080 or smth)...
You bought a GPU without a computer lined up and no job to provide an income for buying parts? Honestly, just sell the 3070 ASAP while it still has some value, find employment, and save up for new midrange parts next gen with a warranty. You don't have enough money to be gambling on used parts lasting you a while.
I never got any slow downs in Odyssey on my GTX 1080 that were noticeable without some kind of monitoring.
the thing i love about my rx 6899 xt is its overclockability. mine can draw over 320 watts and becomes an absoloute beast. Its also just more fun for me to tinker with it instead of the limited tuning you get with with nvidia
This video has shown, at least to me that there's definitely a greater driver overhead cost with the RTX 3080 ti over the 6900XT as those 1080P results in particular are impressive stuff from the 6900XT.
a proud rx6900xt owner.it's been amazing for me and what deal it was. i got for 261$ at that time and i think i snatch gold.(an xfx swft rx6900xt)
The glimpse of Joker from dark Knight returns gave me goosebumps
*rewatching this real quick as in my country both these cards are within 1% of pricing meaning you don't lose when going for either unless the latest and greatest titles are what you are focused on which need more VRAM however at 1080p 12gigs is still fine so i feel whichever card i can get for a better deal is the key and not which benched the best here*
Just got the 6900 xt extreme waterforce.for $450. Should return it and wait for relaeses in Janurary?
Love the series!
I always thought 3080ti was better but it got humbled lmao
Makes me happy to see my gpu in a video- I have an EVGA FTW3 Ultra that I spray painted white though
Were these tested using DLSS and or ray tracing?
I can barely be bothered to play games any more but am a gear slut so here I am...
Kingdom Come Deliverance, despite some jank, was well worth my very limited gaming time. A gem.
Thanks for yet another solid video
I thought the Radeon might win on cost per frame, did not expect it to win the majority of the benchmarks too. (admittedly on the older games.)
After 2 founder 3080Tis failing on me, going through the RMA, Nvidia admitting manufacture defect with cheap MLC capacitors, and then only offering me a _partial refund,_ I ditched Nvidia and snagged a 6950XT in summer of 2022 and have been loving AMD since.
Ray Tracing is entirely useless in gaming still, as it's still in its infancy, and will be for at least 5 more years. So RT performance disparity between Nvidia and AMD ignored, AMD is far greater cost-to-performance; and for those gamers switching en-mas to Linux, Driver support is still years ahead of Nvidia.
I'm curious what your issues were... would you mind sharing?
@@Lord_Zath dude literally wrote "manufacturing defect with cheap MLC capacitors" in his comment.
I still think 3080ti was the better value. DLSS is far superior, and ray reconstruction furthers the 3080TIs lead in modern games.
if it was like 16gigs, yeah. But it's kinda a tie, if you dont care about RT
@ I have no vram issues at 21:9.
Am I missing something? Why use the 3080ti and not the 3090?
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights The 3090 is a halo product, meaning the absolute top tier of consumer grade cards. It's priced and has specs more in line with a titan card. The difference is that if someone bought a 3080ti, they could at least pretend that they didn't spend a crap ton.
Anyone know which i should get ? Im saving up, the 6900 xt has worse ray tracing but i have a 1080p 165 hz monitor, and i assume on that it would acrually have good ray tracing peformance probably better than my 3060 ti, i plan to stay on 1080p for a few years
I just got a used sapphire nitro+ OC RX6800 to replace the RX 5600 XT. It's all relative😶🌫✌
Using old drivers for these comparisons doesn't make sense. If someone were to buy either of these cards on the used market, they'd use the latest. As it stands, you're just rehashing the numbers from the year of release with a stronger CPU.
The purpose of The GOAT Project is to pit the best GPUs from each generation against each other in order to decide which is the greatest of all time. If you're looking for more practical buying advice, I've already reviewed the RTX 3080 Ti and RX 6900 XT in 2023 and 2024 games, using the latest drivers at the time those videos were made. I'll update the description to include links to those videos.
Ya, he's making videos for that time of the gpu release....
I had a Power Color Red Devil 6900XT I got for $1100 when it came out at Micro Center. I upgraded to a 4090, but that 6900 is still a beast. It is in my friend's PC.
Ghostwire Tokyo hiccups could have been Denuvo related, since it was added later, just before DLC, and we all know what Denuvo did to village before it was removed
What this video has shown me is that almost every game that I want to play is from before 2023 or a good port of a pre-2023 console release. Nvidia's biggest problem might be that fewer people want to play the latest AAA output (see especially the last two big Star Wars games)
Any thoughts on the AMD RX 6950XT Vs 6900XT?
The 6950XT is 5 to 10% faster and draws a bit more power, the 6900XT would also never match the 6950XT since the 6950XT has faster memory. If buying brand new or if not much more expensive go for the 7900GRE, I would also opt for a 7800XT over a 6900XT and possibly even a 6950XT if around similar price, you would always want to go for the latest generation even if a little slower because of extra features support and power characteristics, they will also be better geared for future games while being fast enough already for older games. If going used there is also the 6800XT, its not much slower than the 6900XT and can be had for cheaper, the 6800XT has fewer active cores with around 95% the performance of the 6900XT.
Basically: 7900GRE > 6950XT > 7800XT = 6900XT > 6800XT
Considering heaps of people were comparing the 6900XT to the 3090 in other videos i was already expecting the 6900XT to beat the 3080ti
Happy 6900xt owner here :D
I have one of the rarest 6900XT, It is from a fairly unknown brand "Sonnettech" in theory it was designed to work with MAC and I bought it second-hand for only 550usd practically new
Can't wait for the 7900 XT/XTX vs 4080S/4090
4090 vs what exactly? another 4090? 😁 even AMD said they weren't competing there.
@@inkredebilchina9699 Well it is true there really wasn’t an AMD card in its league, but the 7900XTX was its closest competitor (and it beat it in MW2 for a while)
@@ultamate4734 me personally don't think the XTX card is beating the 4080 Super nowadays, maybe the OG 4080 but not Super. could be interesting to see them trade blows, but that too would have to be Raytraceless test.
Lovely video but I would prefer tests with everything maxed out including RT. Who buys a $1500+ card to play atmospheric single player games at these preset settings (or 1080p)
The Champion is here, get RX 6900 XT for 220$ from RTX 2060 Super, and It was such an upgrade for this money!
Now I can play 4K/60 solid lock, thanks AMD.
The 6900XT was a welcome return to form after many years of not getting close to Nvidia's top cards. However, the real "goats" of that generation were the 6800XT and 3080, which gave you most of the performance of the top cards at a fraction of the price. If covid and crypto didn't disrupt prices, those two were probably the last time high end gaming was relatively affordable
The 2020's have certainly been an interesting decade thus far...
My old 6900 XT runs great in my Dad's rig these days und I'm still very happy with my 6950 XT. We both play on Linux and all the bad games are thankfully "gifts" from the Epic Store. The only time I ever used RT is for Photo Mode in Cyberpunk 2077 and for that it's good enough 🙂I honestly find that reflective shit rather annoying during gameplay.
I bought the 7800xt a few months after it came out. Best GPU I've ever used.
Bought a 6900xt over a 3080 back when they released, and it was an absolute monster. Probably mu favourite card I've ever owned
The 7800 XT competes with the RX 6900 XT and the 7900 GRE competes with the RX 6950 XT.
3080 ti owner here, I paid $550 (more than I would’ve liked) about a year and a half ago now but I got probably the single coolest model, the palit gamerock which is impossible to find in the USA
This video is making me question whether or not I should wait until the RX 8000 series GPUs come out or to take my chances in a 6000 series GPU. I'm working with a budget of roughly $320-370.
This is why I still love my rx6950xt.
i have a rog 6900xt with water cooler
should i change the 6900xt into 3080ti ?
nvidia graphics are way more better than the amd graphics in renderimg almost 2 times in 3080ti and the 6900xt
To be honest. I dont think games will be created without FSR or DLSS anymore. All big games are using it. Microssoft announced a Direct-X update Upscaling/frame Gen being easy to add on games. This thing about "raw performance" makes no sense in my mind. Ray Tracing is just another slider on game menu, and people who buy new cards dont want to turn things off. It was the same when PhysX got on borderlands 2, my gtx 650ti could play the games, but the radeon 7770 could not.
As our Chumba (Jackie) would say: "WELCOME TO THE MAJOR LEAGUES🎉"
I know you just uploaded and you're probably resting, I just gotta ask.
You think a RX 6700 XT or RX 6800 XT is a good pair with my Ryzen 7 5600g and 1080p monitor?
I think either is a good buy, but if you're looking for a longer term solution it might be worth going for the 6700 XT and putting the money you save into a Ryzen 5700X3D. That should take you through at least the next GPU update cycle, maybe more!
Either would work, but the 6800 is a beast at 1080p
5600g is definitely getting a little weak for a 6800 xt. I personally wouldn't go higher than a 6800 if your on 1080p
either card will be fine i run a 6900xt with a i5 12600 non k 1440p 144hz, the i5 is about 6% better than the 5600g
I got the 6900 xt new at 471$ outside the US, so im fairly happy with what i have
I just bought a 6900xt for 350 euro a month ago and i am loving it!!!! Im only playing warzone on it but I cant wait to play other stuff on it!!!!
I just bought a 6900xt on eBay for $300 and am very happy about it
IMO, DLSS is truly a major advantage for the Nvidia cards. Then the better RT performance and energy efficiency are the cherries on top
Got a college Admission test in two days but sorry I can't miss an iceberg video on release
Got myself a 3080Ti a couple of weeks ago used for 400 Euros. Sold my 3070 for 270. It was an excellent upgrade until something more serious arrives. I had to upgrade the VRAM, 8GB is really not enough anymore for 1440p.
i bought the 6900s little brother the 6700 xt and its one of the best purchases ive ever made. 300 dollars for an absolute beast of a card
My daily driver, RX 6900XT is a beast! Can run almost anything at ultra settings. With some workarounds and overclock i can play even Cyberpunk 2077 with pathtracing.
This is actually very surprising I do wonder why AMD has a lead from 2018 to 2021 then as soon as it hits 2022 the 3080 ti takes over. Very interesting I wonder if this applies to 2023 and 2024 as well and how they both react to unreal 5 games.
Got my 3080 ti the other day for just 450 bucks (FE) I think I’ll be very happy with it
why not the 6950xt and 3090?
1) I have owned the 6900 XT for a while, and the idea of selling it to buy a 6950 XT just for a small memory overclock didn't seem worth it.
2) I took a poll asking which GPU was the successor to the 2080 Ti. The 3080 Ti won.
I got my 6959xt for like 470. Really good card for gaming. Everything else though not so much.
Iceberg Tech : the true competitor to the RX 6900 XT was the RTX 3090 24GB....whereas the RX 6950 XT was faster (due to its 18 GBPs memory) and it had to be compared to the RTX 3090 Ti 24GB. I personally have the RX 6900 XT 16GB and a 5 Manli RTX 3080 Ti 12GB cards....have been playing on both of them for the past 2 years....and the RTX 3080 Ti 12GB is no match for AMD in any rasterized game at any resolution....it's simply not in the same league. The 3080 Ti 12GB is in practice around 30-40 % slower. Your benchmarks show to little of a difference compared to the real world difference.
should i get the 6900 xt second hand for 500$?
wow. i did not know about this. well at that time, it's very hard to get a gpu. because of the price even from non scalpers. because the stores and distributor themself raises the prices for the GPU. at that time i bought my 6600xt for more than 5 times the price of when i bought my RX 580.
i thought that 3080 TI beats 6900XT. like they used to. no wonder nvidia released the 3090.
currently using RX 6800 non XT (i hate having to write the non XT thing). that i bought for quite cheap after the mining crashed.
i wonder if i need to upgrade to RX 6800 XT. just so that i don't need to write non XT part.
i sold my 6600XT for about the price of old price of a brand new RX 580.
I think another good point of comparison would be power consumption. I have an AMD and Nvidia card from this generation. (RX6800 and RTX3090) And the AMD card draws much less power at same resolution(1440p) with a capped framerate.