I haven't finished this video yet... but I want to scream.... There Is No Body!!!!. It is meant to represent Wanda and the "death" of the hex that the Scarlet Witch placed (and possibly a stand-in for the Darkhold itself).Episode one was a fantasy inside Agatha's mind. The body is a manifestation within Agatha's fantasy world. Nothing in the "cop" part of the episode was exactly as we saw it. The car. The yellow tape. The body.
Vision has the best lines in the MCU. 🤗 I particularly enjoyed his discussion with Ultron at the end of Avengers: Age of Ultron. Ultron : You're unbearably naive. Vision : Well, I was born yesterday. 🤗🤗🤗
Since Wednesday I've actually seen two people on the internet claim they've never seen a single Marvel movie and Agatha is their first Marvel experience and I find that mind boggling 😂 it makes sense when people watch only WandaVision and move onto Agatha since they're connected but only watching Agatha must be such a unique experience 😅
@Markus2E5I6 that was my thought! I saw people who just saw WandaVision and were asking if they needed a refresher and I had to tell them to watch DSMOM because in my opinion you can't even watch the first Agatha teaser without knowing what happened in MOM, because it spoils the end 😂
I have some wild theories about thr Teen and this is definitely one of them... it just seems so obvious and that's why I feel they are going to subvert our expectation. But this is definitely my number one thought for his journey.
Yep this has been my theory since I saw the first episode. (that is, my theory is that "Teen" is being controlled by Mephisto/Chthon and he'll betray the other witches at the end and use the wish + their power to bring Wanda back. Agatha might escape alive, but I expect the rest will not)
@@taysluvv Kinda.. Basically not every Wanda became the Scarlet Witch. Only 616 Wanda became the Scarlet Witch. There’s only one Scarlet Witch in the multiverse.
I think they made it pretty clear "Teen" is already touched by the Darkhold and his trip to the Witches road is to free himself from it like Agatha did. Which means another copy exists in some shape or form
If they wouldn’t even come back for Fuller House, I doubt they can be brought back for this, but they can at least offer them as costume designers maybe since they are in fashion, I think.
But Wanda was wearing that same outfit in WandaVision, the second to last and final episodes of the series. Gray sweat pants, red hoodie, barefoot, same color hair. (It is roughly the same color, I did a side-by-side comparison)
I think "Wandavision" was the equivalent of "House of M" (changing reality due to grief), killing the Illuminati was the equivalent of killing some heroes in the comics (Hawkeye, for example). So, I think what's next is the "Children's Crusade" comic events, where the Young Avengers find out Wanda was brainwashed (or something) by Doctor Doom; the MCU is assemblig the Young Avengers and bringing Doom, so...
White Vision was given all of his memories back by hex Vision. I think that this means white Vision might have also been given hos feelings for Wanda, the Avengers and humanity back, at least to some degree.
When he was in love with Wanda, Vision had the Mind Stone embedded in his brain, which I presume has far greater emotion processing capabilities than a bunch of memories being thrown at him. If I'm showing you a few pictures of your ex, it might remind you of better times, it will not necessarily re-ignite your love for that person. White Vision has memories of his time with Wanda, but he doesn't remember living these events and his emotional system might not be able to process this data *right now.* Wanda is still in love with Vision, but I think Vision will have to walk down his own memory lane to discover his true feelings towards Wanda. And what to we call this process? Well, a "quest" is the first word that comes to my mind... 😇😇😇
white vision is still a robot with memories from an evolved body capable of emotion. he will never be able to replicate the natural emotion capable of a sentient being without the mindstone that allowed for it to happen
The thing about Teen that is reminding me of Wiccan specifically was when he said “what body” and kinda gestured before the image changed. Same with the painting he verbally mentioned the object to distract (which is how wiccan’s reality bending works as well distinct from Wanda’s)
sure, but what does it represent in agathas psyche? it could just be agathas power, or it could be wanda, or the darkhold. "only you can solve the riddle to your heart"
@@fernandorios474 As we have seen at the end of Love and Thunder, Heimdall (who's supposed to be dead too) is guarding Valhalla, so we can assume that Loki, Hela and the rest of the dead Asgardians are also there waiting for the rebirth of Asgard. 🤷🏼♂️
I think that teen is Billy maximoff from another dimension, when they get to the end of the witch's road and get their wish teen will get his mother back so Wanda will be back. Bonus points if the series ends with another Wanda vs Agatha battle
6:02 The other seven slots might refer to the other Marvel TV shows. Iirc 2-3 people used it in Agents of Shield. Morgan Le Fey owned it in Runaways, and then it was used by 2(?) other characters. And the last one could be our Doctor Strange in MoM.
I like the theory that the "body" was the Darkhold, but I just wanted to mention that there are 7 more slots on the library card besides Wanda and Agatha. And if you count all the witches in the coven going on the road and Rio, there are seven of them. I don't know if this is relevant or purely a coincidence, but it's notable. The card could've foreshadowed how many people would significantly influence this next adventure, even if not all are physically present like Wanda.
Well the flowers in the pictures were technically on Herbs property. So it wouldn’t really make sense why there are flowers in the middle of the woods that these detectives are investigating, if there was no body= no case
What if Teen and his full belief in the witches road is what actually opened the door to the road? The door doesn’t appear until right before he gets close to it and he is the first to enter. Also could tease the fact he has powers too assuming that’s the case.
I love how at the end of wandavision, when wanda and vision are saying goodbye, vision sheds a tear. The emotionless robot was still able to feel his love for wanda 😭😭. Thats why i think the white vision will regain that love.
Also, I may be reaching but the shelf that is burned at the library looks like top shape of the castle on the top of Mount Wundagore… Maybe I’m trippin’… 🤷🏾♂️
I wonder if Agatha's last trial or 1 of the trials on the wirches road requires a sacrifice, specifically Teen. Going back to Rio Vidal mentioning Agatha sacrificing another child. I wonder if that is in context to Agatha's first witches road journey.
To my friends who have grieved a loved one, I've actually said that to them: "What is grief, if not love persevering?" Thank you WandaVision for helping us to deal with loss.
My hope is that Wanda is resurrected at the end of the road. If Wanda’s story is one of loss, isolation, and lashing out that you can’t control because of pain, and Agatha’s story is one of loss, isolation and lashing out you create yourself because of selfishness, there are exciting stories to have with those two paths personified in the people. There is also a reality where regardless of their pasts neither one is a hero or a clear villain. That regardless of how they got to the outcomes they did, they both created trauma and pain and destruction. Two sides of the same coin.
Hopefully they use the corpse to retcon the future of both Scarlet witch and Quicksilver in the 616 universe… it would be great to have them both especially now that mutants are in the MCU
All very good points, but I really think in a much simpler way the entire purpose of the ship of Theseus segment was to define to the audience that at this point the difference between these two versions of vision is minimal and that they are so essentially the same that it’s worth debating whether they are different at all.
A personal belief of mine is that Wanda at the last second teleported out of mount wundagore or was forcefully teleported and thats why the Teen character who could possibly be playing Wiccan in the MCU wants to walk the witches road so bad because at the end of it Wanda will be there, perhaps unconscious or in a comma but I do feel as if the Scarlet Witch is somehow involved in the greater narrative of the MCU.
What I would love to see would be that there's some "monster" Agatha and the coven faces in AaA, that in the Scarlet Witch movie is shown to be Wanda trying to reach out to them.
There's seven names above Agath's on the list, as if seven people had the book before here. (Glances over at the Salem *Seven* with their blackened hands coming for Agatha for some reason...)
the body flashed into the morgue, which tells us this is just a figment of Agatha's imagination. Which makes me wonder about Rio and The Teen's existence, as well.
If Mephesto is named in episode 3, then he needs a vessel to come through if the darkhold is gone, so it would make sense that he manipulates Agetha to get through. Also, to defeat the Salem 7 then it would make sense to bring Wanda back from the dead and it would be 7 against 7.
The things Erick says i've thought about already. I love watching both of them. There are details that help me since i didnt read the comics as a kid....
I disagree. I think the dark hold marks you. The dark hold has been around for years, magic generally in lore comes with a price but also if you're using it, you can't hide that
Two years from now…It should not just be a Wanda movie; needs shared characters even into a live action magneto and some entity like ..Mephisto/sasha who had a story with Wanda and Agatha. Mephisto is a shape shifter too.
There's no way it will just be Wanda BUT they won't have a movie without Lizzie Olsen so they're starting there and then they'll get Bettany, Spader, Hahn, Plaza, Peters Johnson, Magneto ECT
The body represented the DH that's why it had both Wanda's and Agatha's names on it. Definitely a physical representation of the book that's been destroyed IMO 🤔
If we dont want a House of M story an EASY slam dunk for Scarlet Witch movie building off everything we already have would be THE CHILDREN’S CRUSADE!!!!! Retool some aspects but is very doable and less overdone
i was about to sk the same question. their theory works except for Stephen strange. but this is what I think literally as I typed this. Stephen used the darkhold from another universe. so maybe, this list only includes those who used the darkhold from the current universe. And, the darkhold from this universe was destroyed, so he never even touched it.
I love the idea of Wanda and Agatha bonding over their lost children. Also, philosophical question related to Vision and Wanda: what makes a relationship? Feelings? Shared experiences? Memories? All of the above? So just sharing memories with White Vision won’t necessarily rekindle feelings for Wanda. Or is it enough to jump start something?
No one wants to say the big M yet but I think Wanda is trapped with Mephisto and Teen is a merging akin to Sylvie mixing Wiccan and Blackheart. Wiccan would be a child of Agatha, Rio and Mephisto where he unknowningly gathers Agatha and a group of witches for daddy at the end of the road, where Wanda might still be bound.
I feel that Billy actually wants his mother back. Why would he need more power when he is just as powerful as the scarlet witch? He is using agatha to get to the end of the witches road and bring his mother back. After all the road gives what the heart trully desires, i feel "teen" dosnet really seek power, but his mother. And considering we will never be able to desifer what he saus about his origins further elluminates this mystery.
We need a video about the differences in magic. Like what makes the difference between the witches and the sorcerers, and how the powers are similar or how they clash. That's also what needs to be represented in the next Doctor Strange Movie. The most interesting part of the Doctor Strange character IS the Sanctum Santorum. I would love to see him use more of the artifacts, like he does in the comics. made it such a more lively place rather than just a landmark they use as an in-between point in movies. And obviously introduce brother voodoo or similar characters, clea(dark dimension sanctum), Nico Minoru maybe even.
Westview is going to be very important in the MCU, in the Westview Wanda creates different reality, under Westview (in Agatha's witchy basement) Agatha opens Witches road reality door. Wanda is sincerely dead Maybe scarlet witch is alive in witches road because it's a prophecy scarlet Witch destroying the world written in darkhold, it has to come true, like book of Vashanti giving solutions at right time
I'm curious your all's thoughts on what Teen hopes to get from the witches' road. Obviously, each witch has something they want from the road. Teen is the one who initiated this journey, helping convince Agatha and the other witches to join. What does he hope to gain by going? Are his intentions good or bad?
Netflix now also has “The Terror” from AMC. I enjoyed it thoroughly and it got me thinking deeply about colonialism/imperialism. The acting is fantastic, especially from Greta Sacchi and of course Ciaran Hinds and Jared Harris. There are a ton of well written characters that have all started to fall apart by the time the audience is getting to know them. Highly recommend.
I think the Darkhold is being represented as Wanda because of the Scarlet Witch’s connection to Wundagore (it being like the ancient source of the Darkhold and holds the prophecy of the Scarlet Witch). I think the demise of them both created some type of cosmic singularity point in the multiverse as Wanda destroyed every Darkhold across the multiverse. That energy is in a state of nonexistent existence trying to “claw its way out” of some purgatory outside of the multiverse. I can imagine the Darkhold using Wanda/Scarlet Witch as a vessel as a means to resurrect itself. Possibly making way for the one who created the Darkhold to return. Whether the mcu uses Chthon or Mephesito who knows with MCU lore rewrites. Either way I’m here for the ride.
I feel like Vision Quest will require him to have someone from his past (one of the Avengers) to assist him in his search for Wanda. This person will act as a touchstone, a validator, & help him process the "human" emotions Vision is bound to have during his journey. Perhaps Hawkeye? They made a point of showing Wanda and Clint comfort each other at Tony's memorial.
Me personally it’s not Wanda that really draws me to this. I’ve been wanting them to explore magic more and Agatha’s wandavision exposition was the first real “explainer” after the ancient one gave us a taste in the 1st Dr. Strange. So I’m SUPER excited for them to expand on the magical lore side of the MCU
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Well… the darkhold did say that the scarlet witch has no coven, so it would make sense for Wanda to go down the witches’ road alone.
Fair point!
Fair point!
Or need for incantation
omg yes
I have been reading comic books since 1967. Nobody ever stays dead.
Just Uncle Ben
@@Kllgg in some universes he lived
How old are you? 😅
Except Uncle Ben.
death has stayed dead though. Hehehe
Yes to a Scarlet Witch movie! She's the best character in MCU.
Yes, please and thank you! Do the House of M!!!!!
I would love it sm
I haven't finished this video yet... but I want to scream.... There Is No Body!!!!. It is meant to represent Wanda and the "death" of the hex that the Scarlet Witch placed (and possibly a stand-in for the Darkhold itself).Episode one was a fantasy inside Agatha's mind. The body is a manifestation within Agatha's fantasy world. Nothing in the "cop" part of the episode was exactly as we saw it. The car. The yellow tape. The body.
That's what I don't get - why is no one realizing that this was all part of the hex and not real 😫
They have literally said this in every video.
Vision has the best lines in the MCU. 🤗
I particularly enjoyed his discussion with Ultron at the end of Avengers: Age of Ultron.
Ultron : You're unbearably naive.
Vision : Well, I was born yesterday.
🤗🤗🤗
😂😂😂😂😂
His WandaVision quote is maybe one of the best things said in the MCU. Closely followed by the Ultron convo.
Since Wednesday I've actually seen two people on the internet claim they've never seen a single Marvel movie and Agatha is their first Marvel experience and I find that mind boggling 😂 it makes sense when people watch only WandaVision and move onto Agatha since they're connected but only watching Agatha must be such a unique experience 😅
They must be hella confused, most of it is dependant on Wandavision and MoM
Could you give their links? I’m curious 😆
@Markus2E5I6 that was my thought! I saw people who just saw WandaVision and were asking if they needed a refresher and I had to tell them to watch DSMOM because in my opinion you can't even watch the first Agatha teaser without knowing what happened in MOM, because it spoils the end 😂
I think Wanda is dead right now and Billy is acting like he wants to help Agatha just so he can travel the witches road to bring Wanda back to life.
I’m not sure if you came up with that on your own or you took that from somebody but that is brilliant! 👏🏻
I have some wild theories about thr Teen and this is definitely one of them... it just seems so obvious and that's why I feel they are going to subvert our expectation. But this is definitely my number one thought for his journey.
Great plot twist. “IT WAS TEEN ALL ALONG”. PLOT TWIST
Yep this has been my theory since I saw the first episode.
(that is, my theory is that "Teen" is being controlled by Mephisto/Chthon and he'll betray the other witches at the end and use the wish + their power to bring Wanda back. Agatha might escape alive, but I expect the rest will not)
How could Rumble kill a Multivers al being..
When Teen tells Agatha, “what body?” It reminded me of Wanda vs Blackbolt “What mouth?”
Doesn’t Teen say “these are flowers”.
@@JL-up5sy the inflection was the same
@@JL-up5syyea he says both back to back.
You dont just "kill" Scarlet Witch.
Exactly
I wonder if the other Scarlet Witches, in the other universes, went down the witch's road in order to gain their kids back or keep their kids.
Only one Scarlet Witch lots of Wandas.
Omg what a great theory!
The Scarlet Witch doesn't have variants (Wanda does).
@@taysluvv Kinda.. Basically not every Wanda became the Scarlet Witch. Only 616 Wanda became the Scarlet Witch. There’s only one Scarlet Witch in the multiverse.
I think they made it pretty clear "Teen" is already touched by the Darkhold and his trip to the Witches road is to free himself from it like Agatha did. Which means another copy exists in some shape or form
Agatha will be surprised that at the end of the Witches' Road, it was Wanda all along
Idk if I’m trippin but they should pull Elizabeth’s sisters out to play witches at some point!
That would be amazing but I don't think they act anymore 😕
@@boyinterrupted7204they retired before the 2010’s unfortunately.
Well, the MCU/Marvel has some history in unexpected cameos... I wouldn’t put it behin them 😊
If they wouldn’t even come back for Fuller House, I doubt they can be brought back for this, but they can at least offer them as costume designers maybe since they are in fashion, I think.
I unfortunately don’t think marvel could offer them enough money to come out of retirement and get back infront of a camera.
But Wanda was wearing that same outfit in WandaVision, the second to last and final episodes of the series. Gray sweat pants, red hoodie, barefoot, same color hair. (It is roughly the same color, I did a side-by-side comparison)
The dead body is wearing a gray hoodie, so it’s similar, but not the same.
Also. The events of Strange and the multi verse of madness takes place after wandaviaion. I'm sure wanda had a costume change after.
to quote one of the greats: “don’t do this… don’t give me hope”
I think "Wandavision" was the equivalent of "House of M" (changing reality due to grief), killing the Illuminati was the equivalent of killing some heroes in the comics (Hawkeye, for example). So, I think what's next is the "Children's Crusade" comic events, where the Young Avengers find out Wanda was brainwashed (or something) by Doctor Doom; the MCU is assemblig the Young Avengers and bringing Doom, so...
Been saying this for a while now 🤷🏾♂️
White Vision was given all of his memories back by hex Vision. I think that this means white Vision might have also been given hos feelings for Wanda, the Avengers and humanity back, at least to some degree.
When he was in love with Wanda, Vision had the Mind Stone embedded in his brain, which I presume has far greater emotion processing capabilities than a bunch of memories being thrown at him. If I'm showing you a few pictures of your ex, it might remind you of better times, it will not necessarily re-ignite your love for that person. White Vision has memories of his time with Wanda, but he doesn't remember living these events and his emotional system might not be able to process this data *right now.* Wanda is still in love with Vision, but I think Vision will have to walk down his own memory lane to discover his true feelings towards Wanda. And what to we call this process? Well, a "quest" is the first word that comes to my mind... 😇😇😇
white vision is still a robot with memories from an evolved body capable of emotion. he will never be able to replicate the natural emotion capable of a sentient being without the mindstone that allowed for it to happen
In the comics. White Vison has all the memories but none of the emotions
I think the bookshelf in the library being burnt represented the Darkhold in all realities being destroyed
That "really most sincerely dead" line put such a big smile on my face.
The thing about Teen that is reminding me of Wiccan specifically was when he said “what body” and kinda gestured before the image changed. Same with the painting he verbally mentioned the object to distract (which is how wiccan’s reality bending works as well distinct from Wanda’s)
If the funko pop leak is anything to be trusted... yep!
The corpse in episode 1 wasn't real, that was all happening in Agatha's mind.
sure, but what does it represent in agathas psyche? it could just be agathas power, or it could be wanda, or the darkhold. "only you can solve the riddle to your heart"
What if the 7 other slots on the library card are the Salem 7? Agatha may have took the Darkold from them?
It’s definitely their mothers if not
Morgan La Fey probably
You see you have *NO CHOICE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON BODIES!* Cause if Ultron is coming back Wanda's coming back, if Wanda's coming back so is Hela
Hela was absolutely annihilated by Surtur if you watch closely
Hela was defeated by prophecy
No body, no death
@@fernandorios474 As we have seen at the end of Love and Thunder, Heimdall (who's supposed to be dead too) is guarding Valhalla, so we can assume that Loki, Hela and the rest of the dead Asgardians are also there waiting for the rebirth of Asgard. 🤷🏼♂️
@@ironshoes1720 He's there because he's dead, right? That's what Valhalla is?
I think that teen is Billy maximoff from another dimension, when they get to the end of the witch's road and get their wish teen will get his mother back so Wanda will be back. Bonus points if the series ends with another Wanda vs Agatha battle
6:02 The other seven slots might refer to the other Marvel TV shows. Iirc 2-3 people used it in Agents of Shield. Morgan Le Fey owned it in Runaways, and then it was used by 2(?) other characters. And the last one could be our Doctor Strange in MoM.
I haven't been this on time to a NR video ever looooool😂
sameee lol
I like the theory that the "body" was the Darkhold, but I just wanted to mention that there are 7 more slots on the library card besides Wanda and Agatha. And if you count all the witches in the coven going on the road and Rio, there are seven of them. I don't know if this is relevant or purely a coincidence, but it's notable. The card could've foreshadowed how many people would significantly influence this next adventure, even if not all are physically present like Wanda.
47 minute video all about Wanda yes thats all ive ever wanted
I never made the connection until 7:17 that the "Dark" "Hold" makes your hands _dark_ when you _hold_ it. 🤯
I think the body they(Herb & Agatha) are standing over was just a row of dead flowers .
Well the flowers in the pictures were technically on Herbs property. So it wouldn’t really make sense why there are flowers in the middle of the woods that these detectives are investigating, if there was no body= no case
@@NoonMight I meant a row of dead flowers on Agatha's property not in the woods because they were never in no woods
@highwithhobbs1173 I'm pretty sure the yellow flowers they were talking over was represented with the yellow caution tape.
What if Teen and his full belief in the witches road is what actually opened the door to the road? The door doesn’t appear until right before he gets close to it and he is the first to enter. Also could tease the fact he has powers too assuming that’s the case.
Jessica is right about the AMC shows on Netflix. I have been binging "Discovery of Witches", which has 3 seasons. HIGHLY RECOMMEND
Anyone notice Joe lockes Belt Buckle looks VERY similar to the icon on the front of the Dark Hold? - Chthon Confrimed? 🤔
I love how at the end of wandavision, when wanda and vision are saying goodbye, vision sheds a tear. The emotionless robot was still able to feel his love for wanda 😭😭. Thats why i think the white vision will regain that love.
Also, I may be reaching but the shelf that is burned at the library looks like top shape of the castle on the top of Mount Wundagore… Maybe I’m trippin’… 🤷🏾♂️
No, you were right. Cause that also represented all of the destroyed darkholds
Wanda was wearing a hoodie and sweats during the final fight sequence with Agatha in WandaVision Ep9. Looks pretty similar to the outfit on the body
i'm going to laugh if the body ends up being Jean Grey as a random cameo......make it lead up to a scarlet witch vs Dark Phoenix movie lol
That would be crazy but idk how jean would've ended up there
@@ISEEYOUgonefree-mv3lf willpower and coffee
No
I doubt doubt that would even happen
It's In Agathas head.
I wonder if Agatha's last trial or 1 of the trials on the wirches road requires a sacrifice, specifically Teen. Going back to Rio Vidal mentioning Agatha sacrificing another child. I wonder if that is in context to Agatha's first witches road journey.
To my friends who have grieved a loved one, I've actually said that to them:
"What is grief, if not love persevering?"
Thank you WandaVision for helping us to deal with loss.
When I am watching shows/movies with the darkhold, I am always hoping for an agents of shield cameo
Why do you have the Darkhold with you?!🤔😹
Did anyone genuinely think Wanda was dead though?
Exactly I will never understand this topic lol
Not me
I absolutely love your theory about the dark hold being the tagged body
My hope is that Wanda is resurrected at the end of the road. If Wanda’s story is one of loss, isolation, and lashing out that you can’t control because of pain, and Agatha’s story is one of loss, isolation and lashing out you create yourself because of selfishness, there are exciting stories to have with those two paths personified in the people. There is also a reality where regardless of their pasts neither one is a hero or a clear villain. That regardless of how they got to the outcomes they did, they both created trauma and pain and destruction. Two sides of the same coin.
why did Agatha say “check both” when they were going to investigate the Jane Doe’s body? I have been rewatching this part but can’t figure it out 😮
Same! Hands and feet maybe?? They were panning between those at the time? That's the best guess I got.
Hopefully they use the corpse to retcon the future of both Scarlet witch and Quicksilver in the 616 universe… it would be great to have them both especially now that mutants are in the MCU
All very good points, but I really think in a much simpler way the entire purpose of the ship of Theseus segment was to define to the audience that at this point the difference between these two versions of vision is minimal and that they are so essentially the same that it’s worth debating whether they are different at all.
A personal belief of mine is that Wanda at the last second teleported out of mount wundagore or was forcefully teleported and thats why the Teen character who could possibly be playing Wiccan in the MCU wants to walk the witches road so bad because at the end of it Wanda will be there, perhaps unconscious or in a comma but I do feel as if the Scarlet Witch is somehow involved in the greater narrative of the MCU.
Wanda had that hoodie on on the last episode of Wanda vision
Saying that viewers are waiting for him to say “There’s Mephisto” is so real 😭
The border you guys are in is kinda weird, like it messes with my depth perception
Jessica mentioned a mutant who's like Poison Ivy; that would be Klara Prast (yes, chloroplast) from the Runaways, aka Rose Red and Tower of Flower.
Upon verrrrry good authority one of the Wandavision /Dr.Strange 2 actors already has been in talks for upcoming Wanda project. 😉
What I would love to see would be that there's some "monster" Agatha and the coven faces in AaA, that in the Scarlet Witch movie is shown to be Wanda trying to reach out to them.
I think the body is way past to be shown on a later episode since it was already established that everything was agaha's halucinations
"most sincerely dead" sounds like a wizard of oz "wicked witch" reference!
It was lol
There's seven names above Agath's on the list, as if seven people had the book before here.
(Glances over at the Salem *Seven* with their blackened hands coming for Agatha for some reason...)
the body flashed into the morgue, which tells us this is just a figment of Agatha's imagination.
Which makes me wonder about Rio and The Teen's existence, as well.
If Mephesto is named in episode 3, then he needs a vessel to come through if the darkhold is gone, so it would make sense that he manipulates Agetha to get through. Also, to defeat the Salem 7 then it would make sense to bring Wanda back from the dead and it would be 7 against 7.
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he’s mentioned!
@@johnsantos507ghost rider?
@@spamspamspam3spamsnow4 Bingo.
I think Wanda is in the same dimension as the Darkhold entities
Thanks, thumbs up, have a great day.
Rio needs to be Morgan le Fay
The things Erick says i've thought about already. I love watching both of them. There are details that help me since i didnt read the comics as a kid....
Jessica Clemons!!! Your hair and skin is giving me life!!! 💕💕💕
I disagree. I think the dark hold marks you. The dark hold has been around for years, magic generally in lore comes with a price but also if you're using it, you can't hide that
I always thought the way to incorporate the X-Men universe into the Avengers was to change Wanda’s iconic line to:
“No… _More_ Mutants!”
26:30 I love that I’m hearing this so late and thinking “oh there was a big reveal alright”
The Pokemon reference earned my like
Two years from now…It should not just be a Wanda movie; needs shared characters even into a live action magneto and some entity like ..Mephisto/sasha who had a story with Wanda and Agatha. Mephisto is a shape shifter too.
There's no way it will just be Wanda BUT they won't have a movie without Lizzie Olsen so they're starting there and then they'll get Bettany, Spader, Hahn, Plaza, Peters Johnson, Magneto ECT
The body represented the DH that's why it had both Wanda's and Agatha's names on it. Definitely a physical representation of the book that's been destroyed IMO 🤔
I love the friendly checking each other
I love your interaction ❤❤❤❤❤❤ your friendship is so nice. You bring so nice complementing ideas to each other's thoughts.
If we dont want a House of M story an EASY slam dunk for Scarlet Witch movie building off everything we already have would be THE CHILDREN’S CRUSADE!!!!! Retool some aspects but is very doable and less overdone
Regardless of whether Wanda is alive or not, I think the body was dressed the same way Wanda was in the final episode of WandaVision.
If Wanda isn’t down there I’ll be pissed
Why wasn't Steven Strange's name on the library card? Wasnt he technically the last one to use it?
from what I remember, it's an alternate universe version of the darkhold that dr strange used
i was about to sk the same question. their theory works except for Stephen strange. but this is what I think literally as I typed this. Stephen used the darkhold from another universe. so maybe, this list only includes those who used the darkhold from the current universe. And, the darkhold from this universe was destroyed, so he never even touched it.
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@@gianjacinto I didnt see your reply. i dont know why. but im glad we shared a brain cell
Theres multiple copies of the book, Right? so he may have had a different book.
2 mins ago is crazy
thats how times works dawg
I love the idea of Wanda and Agatha bonding over their lost children. Also, philosophical question related to Vision and Wanda: what makes a relationship? Feelings? Shared experiences? Memories? All of the above? So just sharing memories with White Vision won’t necessarily rekindle feelings for Wanda. Or is it enough to jump start something?
“That’s why you have covens.” was priceless, so you don’t lose out on tv networks. ❤ 😂 ❤
Love the Gary analogy
No one wants to say the big M yet but I think Wanda is trapped with Mephisto and Teen is a merging akin to Sylvie mixing Wiccan and Blackheart. Wiccan would be a child of Agatha, Rio and Mephisto where he unknowningly gathers Agatha and a group of witches for daddy at the end of the road, where Wanda might still be bound.
I feel that Billy actually wants his mother back. Why would he need more power when he is just as powerful as the scarlet witch? He is using agatha to get to the end of the witches road and bring his mother back. After all the road gives what the heart trully desires, i feel "teen" dosnet really seek power, but his mother. And considering we will never be able to desifer what he saus about his origins further elluminates this mystery.
I think it would've been funny if the previous two names on the library ticket was Robbie Reyes and Aida.
Did they not mention the scarlet witch’s hands literally wrapping around one of the trees in the trailer
WAKE WANDA FOREVER
@34:50 I'd love to see Scarlett witch and Jean Greys dark Phoenix interact!
Jac Schafer I think is a real Scarlet Witch fan
People being worried about tropes are the people ruining storytelling
We need a video about the differences in magic. Like what makes the difference between the witches and the sorcerers, and how the powers are similar or how they clash. That's also what needs to be represented in the next Doctor Strange Movie. The most interesting part of the Doctor Strange character IS the Sanctum Santorum. I would love to see him use more of the artifacts, like he does in the comics. made it such a more lively place rather than just a landmark they use as an in-between point in movies. And obviously introduce brother voodoo or similar characters, clea(dark dimension sanctum), Nico Minoru maybe even.
Crazy how people think the Scarlet Witch went down like Cersei Lannister via bricks! Madness indeed!
I’d be pissed if Aubrey plaza (who is one of the most underrated actresses) play Mephisto or nightmare but blackheart is perfect
So want our chaos queen Wanda back!!❤❤
Westview is going to be very important in the MCU, in the Westview Wanda creates different reality, under Westview (in Agatha's witchy basement) Agatha opens Witches road reality door. Wanda is sincerely dead Maybe scarlet witch is alive in witches road because it's a prophecy scarlet Witch destroying the world written in darkhold, it has to come true, like book of Vashanti giving solutions at right time
I'm curious your all's thoughts on what Teen hopes to get from the witches' road. Obviously, each witch has something they want from the road. Teen is the one who initiated this journey, helping convince Agatha and the other witches to join. What does he hope to gain by going? Are his intentions good or bad?
Netflix now also has “The Terror” from AMC. I enjoyed it thoroughly and it got me thinking deeply about colonialism/imperialism. The acting is fantastic, especially from Greta Sacchi and of course Ciaran Hinds and Jared Harris. There are a ton of well written characters that have all started to fall apart by the time the audience is getting to know them. Highly recommend.
I looked at the dates on the library card and I found several were either exactly or around the dates of things like witch burnings
They were also release dates and birthdays
I think the Darkhold is being represented as Wanda because of the Scarlet Witch’s connection to Wundagore (it being like the ancient source of the Darkhold and holds the prophecy of the Scarlet Witch). I think the demise of them both created some type of cosmic singularity point in the multiverse as Wanda destroyed every Darkhold across the multiverse. That energy is in a state of nonexistent existence trying to “claw its way out” of some purgatory outside of the multiverse. I can imagine the Darkhold using Wanda/Scarlet Witch as a vessel as a means to resurrect itself. Possibly making way for the one who created the Darkhold to return. Whether the mcu uses Chthon or Mephesito who knows with MCU lore rewrites. Either way I’m here for the ride.
I feel like Vision Quest will require him to have someone from his past (one of the Avengers) to assist him in his search for Wanda. This person will act as a touchstone, a validator, & help him process the "human" emotions Vision is bound to have during his journey. Perhaps Hawkeye? They made a point of showing Wanda and Clint comfort each other at Tony's memorial.
Me personally it’s not Wanda that really draws me to this. I’ve been wanting them to explore magic more and Agatha’s wandavision exposition was the first real “explainer” after the ancient one gave us a taste in the 1st Dr. Strange. So I’m SUPER excited for them to expand on the magical lore side of the MCU
Why are we acting like the scarlet witch can’t teleport? 🤦🏽♂️
Honestly, most of the time I see a video of yours I really wanna watch I know it's what I'm looking for when Jess is there