It's pretty clear why Wooting keeps kicking a$$ with each of their releases... These guys are absolute PERFECTIONISTS!!! They sweat over the tiniest (but super important!) details that other much larger brands just gloss over.
I think the aging/patina of the raw alloy case over time will hopefully be one of the best qualities of this case, as it'll add uniqueness to every board.
True, i've work with patinas before. It comes with different results depending on how long it was submerge into the patina(concentration of the solution, etc). Though if you wanna keep the raw look without using clear coat, you can always use wax coating to keep the metal from oxidizing. Edit: Wax coat helps protect the metal from most liquid/fingerprint stains too
I can't wait to see how artists will put their spin on the raw zinc with electroform or torch patinas! KneeDeep did a batch a year or so ago for the TYP60 keyboard and it was awesome.
I just spent wwwaaaayyy to much money preordering the top top top end 80HE with all the extras. Buuut this will probably be my forever keyboard. Can't wait to see it
I bought myself a wooting 60he+ and I'm in love so I think I might aswell get the 80he and give my 60he+ to my younger cousin. Y'all make really nice keebs
I do love the idea that the zinc case ages with you. That means every keyboard will become unique eventually and that's not a bad thing in the hobby, no? If you dislike it, you may buy a new one. But what I've been wondering was, if a clearcoat of any kind is an option? It would alter the feel, obviously, but also preserves the look, no? So could there be the option to have a clearcoated raw and a pure raw? So that people can decide what they want most - long lasting raw looks, or a truly evolving raw case.
This might be a stupid suggestion, but why not use a clear cerakote/ceramic coating on the raw finish to preserve the "freshly machined" look while still offering solid corrosion and stain resistance? Obviously it would be pricier but you could maybe offer it as an add-on. Just a thought :)
I just ordered one of your 80HE keyboards, thinking maybe it would help with my declining skills....I'm a 78-year-old gamer, been playing since the late '80s, but it probably won't help me much unless you would be so kind as to restrict your sales to gamers 78 and over. ☺
We considered it, but the light gray feet complete the styling of the 80HE and is the linking chain. But not off the table for future iterations or accessories option
@@Wooting what complete the white cases then? do black feet on white cases then.... Why u dont listen to your customers?! do a poll! u will be surprised! we want black feet on black cases.
@@Wooting what is the linking chain and what complete the style on white cases then? do black feet on white cases then!? Why u dont listen to your customers? do a poll and u will be surprised! we want black feet on black cases.
itd be roughly the same seeings its about 0.5ms ahead. 1khz means your average press will be 0.5ms from an update and 8khz neans your average press will be about 0.06ms away from.a refresh/update which is about 0.45ms difference. Add that on and you get the same latency roughly at 1.2ms
Can we please get a more in-depth video on rappy-snappy? Im very interested in the feature and how much of an advantage it will provide in games like CS.
Why did you choose to make the sides on the plastic case glossy? Not worried about it getting scratched up cleaning it, when trying to remove dust or likewise? 🙂 I have preordered one and am excited to recieve it though. I know it is a small thing, but just wondering.
Nice work I’m really hyped 2 get my 80he delivered. One thing I’m a little unsure is how rappysnappy is going to work. Is it 2 keys u configure or does it compare 2 keys regardless of what exact key is pressed? If 2nd I wonder how u would be able to walk diagonally (w+d / w+a / s+d …)
@@Wooting Just the idea of having a strap that pulls about the keyboard and hold down the flap sound so satisfying as a 2 in 1 solution. Yet , it seems to be good as it is. Good look with getting things shipped. i will get one of your products if I ever stop traveling.
All 3 Zinc cases look really good. Please do update us once the White and Raw ones are fully final. I like the look of the raw one a lot but IDK if I can keep it in pristine condition. So I may go for white. But if you manage the final effort for making the Raw stronger... Just update us Wooting. Amazing work either way.
When it comes to the raw zinc alloy case, I would honestly prefer longevity over a slight hit to the looks, part of the zinc alloy appeal at least to me is that this is a piece that could last with you for the rest of your life, something memorable that you could use and keep forever without having to babysit it.
Since you have that modified keyboard testing rig, it would be helpful to check how much latency and deviation usb hubs add. (while other hub's port doing big data transfer as well) I've heard that it is sub millisecond, but haven't seen any sub millisecond precise tests.
I am getting one of the testers. I will be testing and publishing results for around 35 different HE keyboards. I think this is really awesome for them to be doing this. I honestly only expect only a couple keyboards to come close to Wooting latency wise. Latency is only one aspect of judging a good gaming keyboard, but it probably the most important thing. The software is the next most important feature, and this is where Wooting is leading also. There are a couple others that are getting close, and that is also something that can improve over the life of whatever keyboard you choose. I believe picking a keyboard from a company that plans on activity developing and supporting that keyboard is also super important. Build quality, layout, how it feels and sounds are also important. Some get that part right but screw up the technical aspects, and others get the technical part right, but the keyboard it's self feels cheap. Lastly I would say the price of the board is also important. Some buyers may have a limited budget and a lot of the best keyboards will be out of their reach. There are definitely a few sub $100 keyboards that a decent, but if you can afford it, I do recommend going for a quality keyboard like a Wooting.
Counter-strafing is a skill demand of CS. I genuinely hope Valve comes up with some method of scanning for this. SOCD/rappy snappy subverts the skill level required to play the game proficiently. Competitive esports are nothing without a high skill ceiling. Really cool tech, and thank you for having an open ear to your user-base, Wooting. This isn't a good thing though. It's bad for competitive play.
I wonder how ceramic coating the RAW case would be. Like not as a huge assembly line production thing but more so consumer thing. I haven't checked prices in forever but I feel like you could get a $20-30 bottle and completely/perfectly coat the raw case and this would 100% keep it safe from anything and clean up easier.
You can see wooting is scamming their customers by making the 80he press at a higher actuation point, if you look at the competitors its pressing way deeper to actuate
should work like normal tbh, unless its drawing a lot more power which shouldn't happen. And if it does just contact support but i really doubt it or just lower the polling rate
How does 8k polling affect CPU’s especially when paired with 8k mice or 4K motion sync mice? How much volatility can it introduce to frametime? Mainly for demanding games like BR, and other non-arena shooters.
Yes, the PVT samples just arrived at the warehouse and will be sent towards me this week. So hopefully in 2 weeks I have something ready. We did do some sound tests in the pre-built mods video we did a while ago as well.
Does anyone know if the 8khz polling rate will cause fps lag in CPU-bound games? When I use 8kz polling on my mouse some games become unplayable when moving the mouse around fast due to the fps drops/stuttering.
Please make a definitive statement about which cases get which LED bar - the light diffused and the dark one. I am getting 2 cases just so I can get the one presumed to come with a dark LED bar transferred to the one that would presumably come with a light LED bar or vice versa.
It would have been great if you had shown the latency for corsair k65 pro mini, it has an 8K Hz polling rate but no rapid trigger. however, it is currently the fastest keyboard as tested by rtings but I guess we will soon find out once rtings gets one.
Please let the raw metal to oxidise.. It will let the keyboard to develop "patina" overtime and it's no necessary a bad thing because it's a beauty in itself.
I really like the raw concept and is what i ordered. The actual finish looks cool, a bit too shiny for my taste. My only concern is that i live in a high humidity country (75-90% almost all year), hopefully the final product will be more durable or at least will get a nice patina overtime.
купил себе wooting 60he+ и она оказалась топовой,на классическую механику или оптомеханику переходить не охота.Не хватает только регулировки высоты. Спасибо разрабам за данный продукт👍
It's pretty clear why Wooting keeps kicking a$$ with each of their releases... These guys are absolute PERFECTIONISTS!!! They sweat over the tiniest (but super important!) details that other much larger brands just gloss over.
I know right? how much effort and thought go into designing a travel case? Wooting, knocking it out
I think the aging/patina of the raw alloy case over time will hopefully be one of the best qualities of this case, as it'll add uniqueness to every board.
Agreed, but hard to tell as there are no samples that have gone through the test of time yet.
True, i've work with patinas before. It comes with different results depending on how long it was submerge into the patina(concentration of the solution, etc). Though if you wanna keep the raw look without using clear coat, you can always use wax coating to keep the metal from oxidizing.
Edit: Wax coat helps protect the metal from most liquid/fingerprint stains too
I can't wait to see how artists will put their spin on the raw zinc with electroform or torch patinas! KneeDeep did a batch a year or so ago for the TYP60 keyboard and it was awesome.
All those little nuances makes Wooting! Lets hear it THOCK :)
passion project comes to life, truly a rare sight to behold ❤️❤️❤️
I just spent wwwaaaayyy to much money preordering the top top top end 80HE with all the extras. Buuut this will probably be my forever keyboard. Can't wait to see it
I am in shock what these guys are doing, BIG Respect for them. Can't wait to get one 🤯
I love the concept of Rappy Snappy, I sometimes click W and D on accident but with Rappy Snappy, it will just have D active which is a win in my book!
I'm so hyped for this keyboard. I can't wait to receive it.
I bought myself a wooting 60he+ and I'm in love so I think I might aswell get the 80he and give my 60he+ to my younger cousin. Y'all make really nice keebs
I do love the idea that the zinc case ages with you. That means every keyboard will become unique eventually and that's not a bad thing in the hobby, no? If you dislike it, you may buy a new one.
But what I've been wondering was, if a clearcoat of any kind is an option? It would alter the feel, obviously, but also preserves the look, no? So could there be the option to have a clearcoated raw and a pure raw? So that people can decide what they want most - long lasting raw looks, or a truly evolving raw case.
still savings for the zinc alloy combo for the free travel case... hope they can release other alloy case design like Tofu redux style
Can you guys please add the new keycaps for iso german layout?
This might be a stupid suggestion, but why not use a clear cerakote/ceramic coating on the raw finish to preserve the "freshly machined" look while still offering solid corrosion and stain resistance? Obviously it would be pricier but you could maybe offer it as an add-on. Just a thought :)
Thanks for finally showing this!!!!!!
I just ordered one of your 80HE keyboards, thinking maybe it would help with my declining skills....I'm a 78-year-old gamer, been playing since the late '80s, but it probably won't help me much unless you would be so kind as to restrict your sales to gamers 78 and over. ☺
Declining skills don't matter much, enjoying the games you play is most important! :D
Change or give us an option to change that white(grey) silicone feet for black cases to black ones please! ( like if u agree )
The white feet stand out on an otherwise sleek product
We considered it, but the light gray feet complete the styling of the 80HE and is the linking chain.
But not off the table for future iterations or accessories option
@@Wooting what complete the white cases then? do black feet on white cases then.... Why u dont listen to your customers?! do a poll! u will be surprised! we want black feet on black cases.
@@Wooting what is the linking chain and what complete the style on white cases then? do black feet on white cases then!? Why u dont listen to your customers? do a poll and u will be surprised! we want black feet on black cases.
We all said last time we don't want white feet on a black keyboard. My whole setup is black
I'm down for the raw one if it ages well. Looks really good.
have y'all at any point considered a 65% layout board and/or module? Would love to see that.
please show a test latency between 80he and 60he both at 1K polling rate!
itd be roughly the same seeings its about 0.5ms ahead. 1khz means your average press will be 0.5ms from an update and 8khz neans your average press will be about 0.06ms away from.a refresh/update which is about 0.45ms difference. Add that on and you get the same latency roughly at 1.2ms
Petition for a brass case… c770 to be exact 😆😊
i would love to see German kana keycap set black and white 🤩
Are you guys going to make low profile keycaps?
Can we please get a more in-depth video on rappy-snappy? Im very interested in the feature and how much of an advantage it will provide in games like CS.
I have a question… which one is better for gaming, wooting 60he + or wooting 60he. And also, what are the differences between these keyboards?
There’s a video about it
60he+, no difference other than the 60he+ allows more customization with stabilizers, that's if you're modding it.
Why did you choose to make the sides on the plastic case glossy? Not worried about it getting scratched up cleaning it, when trying to remove dust or likewise? 🙂 I have preordered one and am excited to recieve it though. I know it is a small thing, but just wondering.
We’re removing the gloss on the black pcr plastic version. It wasn’t hitting right.
@@Wooting Thank you for the reply, first of all. And it sounds amazing, I'm glad you had thought about yourself! ;-)
Nice work I’m really hyped 2 get my 80he delivered.
One thing I’m a little unsure is how rappysnappy is going to work. Is it 2 keys u configure or does it compare 2 keys regardless of what exact key is pressed? If 2nd I wonder how u would be able to walk diagonally (w+d / w+a / s+d …)
You choose 2 keys.
Thanks. That makes sense :)
pls sound tests for the zinc alloy
Will the 80HE have the same LED options for the keys as the 60HE. Specifically the AOE effect?
Yes, it will receive the same options from the 60HE and more will come! :)
@@Wooting Thats great! Thanks a lot
how about only one flap in the middle with velcro? should be enough to hold it down and will be less cumbersome to zip the case.
Good point. This is doing the job though and at a deadline. That said, will experiment for future iteration.
@@Wooting Just the idea of having a strap that pulls about the keyboard and hold down the flap sound so satisfying as a 2 in 1 solution. Yet , it seems to be good as it is. Good look with getting things shipped. i will get one of your products if I ever stop traveling.
Is Rappy snappy 80HE exclusive or will it be available as an update for 60He users too?
Rappy Snappy will be for all of our current products. :)
@@amshermansen you guys are the best. Love the Wooting products and brand keep up the hard work guys :)
so what happens when you use w and d or is this exclusive to a and d keys
what you mean?
I was in-between plastic and metal but that raw metal looks so good
What are the differences between the plastic and zinc cases? Does it affect gaming performance?
No it's aesthetics, heft, and acoustics
@@Jamesified thank you, i was worried i was gonna miss out by ordering the plastic case.
Heavier keyboard - more stable on the table ;)
can i have one for review
Be sure to reach out to marketing@wooting.io for review samples! :D
I need a zinc alloy orange
woo woo woo
Keyboards soo expensive, why?
Is still the best gaming keyboard in the world so I think it’s warranted
Do you really notice 2 ms?
no
Hey!! :)
when you would finally make a 92-96% and low profile im still waiting
Day 1 of asking Wooting for a free Wooting 80he because im to broke
Can you guys PLEASE make a proper sound test between zinq and plastic. PLEASE.🙏🏼
They already did...
th-cam.com/video/kSCcVL1qAik/w-d-xo.html
They’ve done it now
@@-Dexr yeah i saw. 2 months to late if you ask me
All 3 Zinc cases look really good. Please do update us once the White and Raw ones are fully final. I like the look of the raw one a lot but IDK if I can keep it in pristine condition. So I may go for white. But if you manage the final effort for making the Raw stronger...
Just update us Wooting. Amazing work either way.
Incoming new Wooting product......"Smacky-Fast Thingy"
When it comes to the raw zinc alloy case, I would honestly prefer longevity over a slight hit to the looks, part of the zinc alloy appeal at least to me is that this is a piece that could last with you for the rest of your life, something memorable that you could use and keep forever without having to babysit it.
Nah, Raw Zinc is for the aesthetic non-slobs. Buy plastic or painted zinc if you can’t keep your stuff clean and eat/drink at your computer.
Since you have that modified keyboard testing rig, it would be helpful to check how much latency and deviation usb hubs add. (while other hub's port doing big data transfer as well) I've heard that it is sub millisecond, but haven't seen any sub millisecond precise tests.
Super happy with the Raw Zinc look except for the feet colour. Hope we can get something that matches the case better.
yeah i would love a metallic looking feet
please release the 80he already im so tired of my £20 keyboard
happy to see the raw case in all its glory,
wished it was slightly more protected
Can we get black rubber feet for the black cases?
are you coming ot Gamescom?
No booth but probably a few teammates
Please don't put that giant sticker on the bottom of the zinc case. Especially if it might strain from the glue
Oh no ... can I change my order to zinc cases lol?
Wooting, please never stop Wooting!😀
I am getting one of the testers. I will be testing and publishing results for around 35 different HE keyboards. I think this is really awesome for them to be doing this. I honestly only expect only a couple keyboards to come close to Wooting latency wise. Latency is only one aspect of judging a good gaming keyboard, but it probably the most important thing. The software is the next most important feature, and this is where Wooting is leading also. There are a couple others that are getting close, and that is also something that can improve over the life of whatever keyboard you choose. I believe picking a keyboard from a company that plans on activity developing and supporting that keyboard is also super important. Build quality, layout, how it feels and sounds are also important. Some get that part right but screw up the technical aspects, and others get the technical part right, but the keyboard it's self feels cheap. Lastly I would say the price of the board is also important. Some buyers may have a limited budget and a lot of the best keyboards will be out of their reach. There are definitely a few sub $100 keyboards that a decent, but if you can afford it, I do recommend going for a quality keyboard like a Wooting.
Counter-strafing is a skill demand of CS. I genuinely hope Valve comes up with some method of scanning for this. SOCD/rappy snappy subverts the skill level required to play the game proficiently. Competitive esports are nothing without a high skill ceiling. Really cool tech, and thank you for having an open ear to your user-base, Wooting. This isn't a good thing though. It's bad for competitive play.
need a sound difference between zinc alloy and the plastic, waiting to order once this is released
This week I should receive the PVT samples. Will try to get a sound test video up in about 2 weeks!
@@Wooting absolute legends
I wonder how ceramic coating the RAW case would be. Like not as a huge assembly line production thing but more so consumer thing. I haven't checked prices in forever but I feel like you could get a $20-30 bottle and completely/perfectly coat the raw case and this would 100% keep it safe from anything and clean up easier.
You can see wooting is scamming their customers by making the 80he press at a higher actuation point, if you look at the competitors its pressing way deeper to actuate
Really good thing to hear that you're close to really get to the end of the development process. Also, my black zinc alloy looks f*cking hotttttttttt.
Well this made me change my order to the black zinc alloy model!
raw case with wood keycaps would be 😮💨🤤
Will the keyboard come with the cable we see when you show the carrying case?
14:05 so no doing coke off the keyboard, understood boss
can you please add black feet or put that in option during buying it :)
Was the PCR Frost case scrapped? I see its an option on the 80he main page but when you enter the order now page, its no longer an option.
I heard that magnetic keyboards require more electricity compared to other keyboards, will their performance work normally when connected to Laptop?
should work like normal tbh, unless its drawing a lot more power which shouldn't happen. And if it does just contact support but i really doubt it or just lower the polling rate
jo can u do an a update board 8kz polling rate for the 60he ?
no, updating the mcu for the 60he is really difficult and also due to space so it wouldn't fit even if they added it.
honestly i dont even want to watch these videos because its going to make me feel bad about going for a different brand for rapid trigger 😭
How does 8k polling affect CPU’s especially when paired with 8k mice or 4K motion sync mice? How much volatility can it introduce to frametime? Mainly for demanding games like BR, and other non-arena shooters.
they said it barely affects cpu at all unlike a mouse. Its not equivalent
@@Frozoken that’s awesome to hear
W IM GONNA BUY IT ONE DAY
Are we going to see a sound difference test between the zinc version and the pcr version?
Yes, the PVT samples just arrived at the warehouse and will be sent towards me this week. So hopefully in 2 weeks I have something ready.
We did do some sound tests in the pre-built mods video we did a while ago as well.
@@Wooting thank you
Does anyone know if the 8khz polling rate will cause fps lag in CPU-bound games? When I use 8kz polling on my mouse some games become unplayable when moving the mouse around fast due to the fps drops/stuttering.
will the module version complete assembled?
Module version you need to assemble yourself, but it’s easy and we’ll have a video with instructions.
Please make a definitive statement about which cases get which LED bar - the light diffused and the dark one. I am getting 2 cases just so I can get the one presumed to come with a dark LED bar transferred to the one that would presumably come with a light LED bar or vice versa.
It would have been great if you had shown the latency for corsair k65 pro mini, it has an 8K Hz polling rate but no rapid trigger. however, it is currently the fastest keyboard as tested by rtings but I guess we will soon find out once rtings gets one.
Just wondering im new to the space. Why zinc alloy over aluminium? Had he60 for 2 years and just ordered black zinc alloy letss gooo
Please let the raw metal to oxidise.. It will let the keyboard to develop "patina" overtime and it's no necessary a bad thing because it's a beauty in itself.
IS IT WIRELESS? Also will we have a Two 80HE version? Need a full size keyboard
Those Kana keycaps are horrribly aligned
How come?
Hi I am using woohting 60he but is Kip making some bug how to fix it can you tell me pls I am not tuching but is tipping pls help me
I really like the raw concept and is what i ordered. The actual finish looks cool, a bit too shiny for my taste. My only concern is that i live in a high humidity country (75-90% almost all year), hopefully the final product will be more durable or at least will get a nice patina overtime.
I love the 80HE but can we please get a TKL/75%? I’d buy one right off the bat!
Honestly would prefer the raw case to have a more matte/sandblasted finish as it would be easier to match aesthetic and hide smudges and stains
You should rename Rappy Snappy, while you can ... will there be a 8000 Hz pcb for the 60HE?
When you guys create a ueber gamecontoller???? Fry:" shut up and take my money" 😬
so much awesome stuff to look forward to from Wooting. Just got my 60HE+! When is the release of Rappy Snappy? can't wait to try it out!
cant wait for my 80he
Omg, the patina on the zinc alloy raw case will be amazing. What’s the release date?
купил себе wooting 60he+
и она оказалась топовой,на классическую механику или оптомеханику переходить не охота.Не хватает только регулировки высоты.
Спасибо разрабам за данный продукт👍
I hope the Kana-keycaps will come for other languages as well in the close future :D
Which language would you like?
@@Wooting Iso Layout.
And about the JIS Dye-Sub keycaps, are those shinethrough? At least the upper part I mean. :P
@@Wooting I would love an ISO/German dye-sub set, also interested whether the keycaps are shinethrough
this was fucking dope and I really want one of these keyboards!
Estimate date release for Rappy Snappy on 60HE/Module ??
I know hipyotech and optimum are the first ones to get the xlats lol
Whats the led bar for? & any plans on adding a volume knob?
me buying a wooting 80he just to get F keys 💀
That raw zinc looks delicious, might have to snag one of those
Little disclaimer: It isn't meant for consumption. 😋
@@Wooting that won't stop me if I get my hands on it ;P
can you use Icurrent usb c to usb a coiled cable with the 80he?
The keycaps look cool but wish you would put the katakana in the bottom right and the font at the top right + perhaps make it abit bolder font.
I really hope you make ISO versions of those white on black keycaps! Would buy instantly