"The Adderall of gaming keyboards? Frank, I told you those Lekker switches aren't for snacking! 😩 Thanks for the great review! We're thrilled our hard work paid off, and must say, the 80HE does look really sexy in those clean b-roll shots. P.S. You were 2 hours too early for the embargo you naughty boy. 😶🌫
@@thrasher6752 he accidentally released the vid 2 hours before he was allowed to but unlisted the video and made it public again after the reviews were allowed to come out
I preordered mine in march and shipping has finally been anounced last Saturday, should be here by friday, right before i have 1 week of vacation, I'm so hyped
Great video, mate! I've been using Keychron's Q1 HE for several months. It's been a fantastic keyboard in all respects -- build quality (emergency bludgeoning weapon if you run out of ammo during a zombie apocalypse), HE switches, 2.4GHz, to name a few. I think I'll pull the trigger on the 80HE to see if it improves on the Keychron.
@@clarkettinger6958 what makes people criticize this keyboard materials way more over the 60he? it's only 30 eur more than the 60he so i dont get why suddenly its such a big deal
@@breter98 because the 60HE was shit too, it's just that you could switch the case and choose not to use it. Now you're forced to only buy Wooting's cases. So now the quality of their cases actually matter.
@@clarkettinger6958 i see, thank you for clarifying. however, wooting said that they will publish the design files so manafacturers can make their own cases.
Seems pretty good, The non standard tkl layout is a bit odd, it doesn't sound top tier but its decent and it is a little on the expensive side for the zinc alloy case. Personally its not my favorite thing in the world, but for gaming performance and great software its gonna be hard to beat. Plus supporting a brand like wooting who actually take feedback and attempt to satisfy customers is cool
Got mine today. Swapped over to the 45g switches and it is the best board I have by a long shot now. I love me some classic cherry cooler master boards for affordable typing and wooting boards for gaming
200 for the plastic keybord is a damn good price. Wooting also has the best Linux support out of all other companies. Had to cancel my preorder cause I need a wireless keyboard, so ended up choosing Keychron Q1 HE instead. The Wooting customer support was awesome and everything was very easy with refunds and cancellation. Watching this review I just want to order again, just to support Wooting. :D
i totally agree , i had a change of heart too after i saw the keychron K2HE , i don't need 8k pooling rate . I'm not a competitive player . and the built quality is a must , even corsair has aluminum, body , why the plastic on 200 $ ?
This costs almost $400 in Canada for the plastic version which is just nuts. I ended up getting a MADE86 Pro instead just for $180 and performs the same anyways
I ordered the new V2 Lekker (L45) switches for my 60 HE. IMO, these switches are where the biggest improvement will be felt for 80 HE buyers. Huge difference in sound and wobble and couldnt be happier with the upgrade.
@@stewRS if you are still using the original Lekkers I would say any of the newer versions are worth it. They are pre lubed and Wooting was offering a 20% discount when I ordered them. Very easy and satisfying upgrade.
Mine arrived tonight. I just did the plastic ghost case with the wrist rest. I have a 60HE that I put into their aluminum case last year as well. The 80HE and the v2 switches just feel a little more polished all around. Other than that it's a Wooting. Nice benefit with this board is the included customizeble angled feet, and I strongly recommend the wrist rest. I tried a couple other hall effect boards the past year, and I would say where they primarily fail is software compared to Wooting. I also just noticed some quality inconsistencies like my Arbiter board will just randomly stop working for 5 seconds at a time.
the light bar to let u see the pressure is nice but of course u have more space on the board to add it , the 8k polling is also good to have nowdays , for me i allready have the 60h+ so for now no upgrade but they are doing a great job with those keyboards , keep the competition in check thats what i like to see , better product for us :)
Have mine on pre-order and it arrives in Nov. Can't wait! Already picked up a set of Jades and have a set of GUGU Black Knights on the way. Looking for that THOCK!
SOCD got banned by Valve in CS, bad example to use in the gameplay footage 😂but afaik Riot still allows it for Valorant, although Valorant doesn't have counter-strafing imbued as a mechanic in the game so it doesn't matter as much as it does in CS
I wouldn’t say it’s a “bad” example, when it literally shows it off so perfectly in execution that it was banned. I’d argue it’s the best example to show it off lol
To be honest this keyboard is not to my liking. Transparent case make it looks cheap, and the typing sound is still a little too annoying for me. Switches maybe super advance can do this and that tricks other keyboards cannot, but still thats a 200$ plastic cheap looking keyboard! I am currently using Razer huntsman elite V2, I know people hate Razer now for whatever reason, But it's quieter, cheaper, and all white looks just nicer in my opinion. Great video Franky! Love it as usual.
Upgrading from my G910 with its double press issue. I'd rather spend $200 for this keyboard knowing that it would last 5+ years with no issue than a $100 one that uses proprietary parts that are soldered onto the PCB even though i had bought and installed replacements just to buy me time until this arrives at my house. It's s weird time I'm living in SUPER exited about a keyboard but Wooting never disappoints.
@@Dan-Simms The only remedy I was able to discover is to keep it unplugged and not use it for two weeks straight. After the two weeks, every time I’m done using the pc and actually turn it off, unplug the keyboard. Leaving it plugged in overnight seems to bring the issue back. Just a note that all of this only applies when you have replaced the double press key. It seems to refresh the pcb to a non double press state. I’ve been doing this for 3-4 months now and it will come to an end when my 80HE comes in this week or next. I can’t stand Logitech anymore and it says a lot when they have more money and recognition than wooting and still fall behind them in product quality.
Yeah it’s a crazy price for a plastic keyboard. I instead got myself a MADE86 keyboard from their kickstarter. Looks better and has the same performance
i just wish there's a full size wireless version of this (with macro keys, volume scroll or knob and media buttons)it would literally be my endgame keyboard, I'm sick of all companies abandoning the full size keyboards for smaller keyboards, and i hate small keyboards (no offense to Wooting)
@@marsgod2867 over bluetooth option maybe,but with a specialized dongle that might not be a problem since its much better and faster in terms of latency,i mean pro esports wireless mice are a thing after all so if wireless tech is fast enough for pro esports mice then it surely can be fast enough for keyboards as well (i say i might cuz i dont know much about wireless tech,and you got a point on how wireless even at its best might affect features like socd and rapid trigger),and lol personally if the dongle makes it more expensive idc ill buy XD
@@marsgod2867exactly... wireless completely defeats the purpose of the keyboard lol there are far better for typing and casual gaming. Only top 1% of fps players need this and none of them would want something that adds the latency.
Personally, I will skip this model and stick to my 60HE, but it's great to see Wooting release 80HE, hopefully they will start exploring new layouts more.
I need a good recommendation for Mac. I need one that’s 100% (has to have a number pad of matching number bad separate) I’d like it to be silver metal to match the Apple athletic. Full metal heavy metal body.
Hi randomfrankp. I've been a long time subscriber since you had 10k subs. I've been looking for an 8khz keyboard that's metal and has optical/HE switches for a long time now and finally some have appeared that don't have that ugly "gamer" look like the razer and corsairs. You recently reviewed both the keyboards I was eyeballing. Do you think the new Wooting is better than the GMMK 3 pro or is the GMMK better? I'm stuck between these 2 as both of them have the features I want with customizable actuation and the works.
The 80HE does NOT run 8KHz straight out of the box. It runs at 1k giving ~1ms latency, and 8k is activated using tachyon mode in Wootility giving ~0.125ms latency
You can just put volumen to layer 2 and be cool. Anyone that encounters actuation problems. Go check if the gasket mount is seated corectly and then click in the swithes again. Sadly they shiped me the black instead of the ghost but actually it probably looks better since I have space keycaps that are dark blue.
Bruh I really want it in metal since I've been waiting for a better layout to get a wooting but the CAD exchange rate is really fucking me up, I can't justify the $400+ price tag 💀 I'm a keeb enthusiast but crossing the 300 mark is hard to go above especially with QK and other budget enthusiast boards like the being so amazing for under 200
I'm confused regarding the position of the right CTRL and Fn keys. On the website presentation, the CTRL key is on the right side of the Fn key, but in every unboxing I saw they are the other way around. What's the catch here?
would be BIS if came out 5 months ago. Dunno if you guys know about those new switches coming from TTC and Gateron, new jade pro switches and more on their way, we talking about 0.005m RTs.
They threw their "Universal Tray-mount" marketing right out of the window with this non-standard layout The outcry when they revealed this weird misc-mash of a layout, one unit longer than a regular 65/75 and one short from a regular TKL. People didn't buy your 60HE because they needed the arrow keys. They simply left their Wooting One customers high and dry after making a TKL and simply leaving them out of the experience of having HE switches. I was watching their videos about discussing the issues with 80HE and thinking they could fix it by simply moving that arrow key cluster 0.5u to the right is just... ugh
"The Adderall of gaming keyboards? Frank, I told you those Lekker switches aren't for snacking! 😩
Thanks for the great review! We're thrilled our hard work paid off, and must say, the 80HE does look really sexy in those clean b-roll shots.
P.S. You were 2 hours too early for the embargo you naughty boy. 😶🌫
hello wooting!!!
woot woot
why did you think you could ignore the embargo?
Punish him ;)
@@fakrn he did not, he just incorrectly did timezones math
bro did not sign the NDA
blud dropped before the embargo
8k Polling so fast even the embargo can't hold it back.
Embargo?
@@thrasher6752 he accidentally released the vid 2 hours before he was allowed to but unlisted the video and made it public again after the reviews were allowed to come out
@@peanutbutterbean1738 ahhh thank you
I preordered mine in march and shipping has finally been anounced last Saturday, should be here by friday, right before i have 1 week of vacation, I'm so hyped
ripppp, L board
dang that is a long wait
I was part of the founder’s campaign for the 80HE and I got the ghost version too. Glad to see it looks amazing
Great video, mate! I've been using Keychron's Q1 HE for several months. It's been a fantastic keyboard in all respects -- build quality (emergency bludgeoning weapon if you run out of ammo during a zombie apocalypse), HE switches, 2.4GHz, to name a few. I think I'll pull the trigger on the 80HE to see if it improves on the Keychron.
I also have the Q1HE with the brass plate. It is a fantastic keyboard, especially for typing.
Nice review! I'm typing this on my new Wooting 80HE Zinc Alloy. It's so nice and the new V.5 of the Wootility is also so much better!
Reminder SOCD is labeled as cheating in CS
yeah now officially
they cant prove you use it because it's hardware related.
@@dutyofcall7659 bruh they literally kick you if you strafe like "adadadad" too much (even with a membrane kb)
But spinning is ok 😂 Volvo for you
dont care lol
This is a really good review. The detail level was really nice to see. Getting more and more excited for the Pre-order to ship ... in Mid-November.
Glad you enjoyed it!
same here
Anyone who follows Wooting can see the passion that they put into creating this keyboard.
So glad I ordered mine back in may. Couple more weeks! Great review as always
Your video has the best explation of SOCD! Thank you! Wish you talked about the weight difference but is just an extra. Thanks!
I'm just glad that they release this variant as well, and not only the 60% form factor
I'm hype about the Wooting 80 HE
I'm hype you're the first with a video
Get them views brother (;
Cant wait until I can pick one up. Wooting knows what they are doing and it shows.
bro these baords are ass, you can save money with something half the price that will feel and sound better. plus they wont get banned in games
@@angooyschannel721name one keyboard better than a wooting lol
This is perfect! I got the ghost case too :D. I ordered it 3-4 months ago so I am so glad that I get to finally watch a ton of videos about it.
Same 🔥🔥
Finally a good review unlike Hipyo doesnt know anything abt magnetic keyboards' review
ur tripping its ass
no, he is just glazing the shitty hardware
but hey, if you want to pick and choose reviewers to listen to by all means
@@clarkettinger6958 what makes people criticize this keyboard materials way more over the 60he? it's only 30 eur more than the 60he so i dont get why suddenly its such a big deal
@@breter98 because the 60HE was shit too, it's just that you could switch the case and choose not to use it. Now you're forced to only buy Wooting's cases. So now the quality of their cases actually matter.
@@clarkettinger6958 i see, thank you for clarifying. however, wooting said that they will publish the design files so manafacturers can make their own cases.
Seems pretty good, The non standard tkl layout is a bit odd, it doesn't sound top tier but its decent and it is a little on the expensive side for the zinc alloy case. Personally its not my favorite thing in the world, but for gaming performance and great software its gonna be hard to beat. Plus supporting a brand like wooting who actually take feedback and attempt to satisfy customers is cool
Can't wait. Ordered mine as soon as it was released. Looks like it is at the port in CA waiting to be released to the warehouse in Las Vegas.
Got mine today. Swapped over to the 45g switches and it is the best board I have by a long shot now. I love me some classic cherry cooler master boards for affordable typing and wooting boards for gaming
i've been fucking waiting with delays for my NA-champion 80% wooting to come in...
Not long now! The ship landed at LA Harbour yesterday, and is waiting to be processed by customs and then off to the warehouse. 😊
Same I bought mine back in April
I’m na bridge be happy bro
@@KingDiamondBones SAME
same here man, i bought mine as soon as it launched and it continues to get delayed :///
I love how RandomFrankP's review is the exact opposite of Hipyotech's
200 for the plastic keybord is a damn good price. Wooting also has the best Linux support out of all other companies. Had to cancel my preorder cause I need a wireless keyboard, so ended up choosing Keychron Q1 HE instead. The Wooting customer support was awesome and everything was very easy with refunds and cancellation. Watching this review I just want to order again, just to support Wooting. :D
i totally agree , i had a change of heart too after i saw the keychron K2HE , i don't need 8k pooling rate . I'm not a competitive player .
and the built quality is a must , even corsair has aluminum, body , why the plastic on 200 $ ?
This costs almost $400 in Canada for the plastic version which is just nuts. I ended up getting a MADE86 Pro instead just for $180 and performs the same anyways
200$ for plastic? My dude how much did they payed you for you to say that 😂😂
Lmao for real @S7ORM3X
200 for plastic is criminal.
One of my favorite things is softwareless config. I will only use peripherals that don't require software installs now.
I bought during founder's campaign, arriving early to mid Oct and I can't wait to get my hands on this sexy beast.
Couldnt agree more. Amazing company and ill continue to support them.
Just preordered mine in zinc alloy so excited
Cant wait to receive mine. Ordered a month ago and just waiting for it to ship in oct/nov!! Come oooonnn!! 😁
I ordered the new V2 Lekker (L45) switches for my 60 HE. IMO, these switches are where the biggest improvement will be felt for 80 HE buyers. Huge difference in sound and wobble and couldnt be happier with the upgrade.
Worth the purchase? Debating on it, were they pre-lubed?
@@stewRS if you are still using the original Lekkers I would say any of the newer versions are worth it. They are pre lubed and Wooting was offering a 20% discount when I ordered them. Very easy and satisfying upgrade.
4:47 I love the Tactiles When? printed on the PCB ahahahaha
Mine arrived tonight. I just did the plastic ghost case with the wrist rest. I have a 60HE that I put into their aluminum case last year as well. The 80HE and the v2 switches just feel a little more polished all around. Other than that it's a Wooting. Nice benefit with this board is the included customizeble angled feet, and I strongly recommend the wrist rest.
I tried a couple other hall effect boards the past year, and I would say where they primarily fail is software compared to Wooting. I also just noticed some quality inconsistencies like my Arbiter board will just randomly stop working for 5 seconds at a time.
the light bar to let u see the pressure is nice but of course u have more space on the board to add it , the 8k polling is also good to have nowdays , for me i allready have the 60h+ so for now no upgrade but they are doing a great job with those keyboards , keep the competition in check thats what i like to see , better product for us :)
Have mine on pre-order and it arrives in Nov. Can't wait! Already picked up a set of Jades and have a set of GUGU Black Knights on the way. Looking for that THOCK!
Great stuff as always !
Thanks for sharing, cant wait for my unit to arrive.
I cant wait, i got the module with jades, hopefully sound better than lekkers...
Super excited myself man I went with the zinc alloy case though and stock switches
Lets go!!!! Can't wait to get my 80 HE in November :)
i cannot WAIT, i ordered this back in MARCH😫
just received mine today and it is absolutely a beast. I have 60HE aswell but personally, I just missed Fkeys. Sound is much better than 60HE too.
Can't wait for mine to get here. Ordered it in April 😬
it honestly sounds amazing
SOCD got banned by Valve in CS, bad example to use in the gameplay footage 😂but afaik Riot still allows it for Valorant, although Valorant doesn't have counter-strafing imbued as a mechanic in the game so it doesn't matter as much as it does in CS
I wouldn’t say it’s a “bad” example, when it literally shows it off so perfectly in execution that it was banned. I’d argue it’s the best example to show it off lol
@@randomfrankpi recon overwatch is best usecase
@@geoff_5888 nah
I heard wooting is also banned in fortnite lan events. Most of them are running apex pros or razer
@@aphaewait fr? I thought since it was a keyboard it wouldn't matter? + double movement got in game support so it shouldn't matter right?
Torn between Zinc and that Ghost edition. Great review
Get both cases
I’m torn too I keep swapping back and forth lol
I can only dream on getting one of these lol but love the review on this!
waiting on my pre-order cant wait
Good review Frank
Looking forward to receiving mine.
Been eyeing the 80HE as a more versatile 60HE... Really have to sell my old keyboards
You really need to check out the Kyubi Kit. You get an Alice board, a 75%, a numpad, and 500 switches for $260. They are all aluminum cases too.
Can't wait to get mine
To be honest this keyboard is not to my liking. Transparent case make it looks cheap, and the typing sound is still a little too annoying for me. Switches maybe super advance can do this and that tricks other keyboards cannot, but still thats a 200$ plastic cheap looking keyboard! I am currently using Razer huntsman elite V2, I know people hate Razer now for whatever reason, But it's quieter, cheaper, and all white looks just nicer in my opinion. Great video Franky! Love it as usual.
Upgrading from my G910 with its double press issue. I'd rather spend $200 for this keyboard knowing that it would last 5+ years with no issue than a $100 one that uses proprietary parts that are soldered onto the PCB even though i had bought and installed replacements just to buy me time until this arrives at my house. It's s weird time I'm living in SUPER exited about a keyboard but Wooting never disappoints.
Man, I'm having that issue too, but I'm too poor to buy this keyboard, sucks cuz it is my top choice.
@@Dan-Simms The only remedy I was able to discover is to keep it unplugged and not use it for two weeks straight. After the two weeks, every time I’m done using the pc and actually turn it off, unplug the keyboard. Leaving it plugged in overnight seems to bring the issue back. Just a note that all of this only applies when you have replaced the double press key. It seems to refresh the pcb to a non double press state. I’ve been doing this for 3-4 months now and it will come to an end when my 80HE comes in this week or next. I can’t stand Logitech anymore and it says a lot when they have more money and recognition than wooting and still fall behind them in product quality.
Price tag in Canada with taxes + shipping is 271$USD which is crazy (yes for plastic)
Yeah it’s a crazy price for a plastic keyboard. I instead got myself a MADE86 keyboard from their kickstarter. Looks better and has the same performance
Glorious take notes on the price
Mine is in transit, had my GMK Chaos Theory ready for like 3 months for this keyboard.
if quality control is better this time I might try one again.
My pre-order is coming in November 💀
same, it sucks but we will get it eventually
That just makes it so that when you DO get it, it will feel phenomenal
Mine too brother, stay strong!
@@allansmic4363 yeah I’m super excited to get mine! I’ve been using my Keychron for almost a year and I’ve never really enjoyed it.
Mine is on the way this week! :D
that 80HE edit ...... NOICE!
i just wish there's a full size wireless version of this (with macro keys, volume scroll or knob and media buttons)it would literally be my endgame keyboard, I'm sick of all companies abandoning the full size keyboards for smaller keyboards, and i hate small keyboards (no offense to Wooting)
I feel like they aren't interested in it, because the delay makes most of the importent features like 8k polling rate, rapid trigger and socd worse.
@@marsgod2867 over bluetooth option maybe,but with a specialized dongle that might not be a problem since its much better and faster in terms of latency,i mean pro esports wireless mice are a thing after all so if wireless tech is fast enough for pro esports mice then it surely can be fast enough for keyboards as well (i say i might cuz i dont know much about wireless tech,and you got a point on how wireless even at its best might affect features like socd and rapid trigger),and lol personally if the dongle makes it more expensive idc ill buy XD
@@bloodbach4986 wooting could do wireless keyboards bit it will last just few hours
@@marsgod2867exactly... wireless completely defeats the purpose of the keyboard lol there are far better for typing and casual gaming. Only top 1% of fps players need this and none of them would want something that adds the latency.
Personally, I will skip this model and stick to my 60HE, but it's great to see Wooting release 80HE, hopefully they will start exploring new layouts more.
75% will never happend
@@JakubixIsHere 😢
Going from the original layout to this was quite a journey lol. Now for Wooting to figure out wireless.
They can do it, but first.
1. Shipping batteries is hard.
2. Keyboard would last few hours max and they do not want those results.
3. Higher latency
@@JakubixIsHere Figure it out bruh those 200 dollaroos per keyboard gotta go somewhere
Got mine coming in October!
12:22 Love to see some good old BF1
the ghost case looks way more unique than zinc, love the 90s imac vibe.
I have ordered the raw version. Seems pretty unique to me. I can't think of any other products unpainted, raw metal.
Wooting admins incoming to take this down lol. bro dont care bout the 16:00 CEST. thanks for taking care of us lol
What is 16 CEST ?
@@fear9273 it was a time arrangement for the release date of reviews
So, the conclusion is to buy wooting 60he+ , wooting 80he module and case or wooting 80he zinc alloy prebuild for someone who want try wooting?
Nice review, maybe check your clock next time though
Timezones are hard
I need a good recommendation for Mac. I need one that’s 100% (has to have a number pad of matching number bad separate) I’d like it to be silver metal to match the Apple athletic. Full metal heavy metal body.
My zinc alloy is on the way andbi cant wait!!!
Ok intro, I see you
Hi randomfrankp. I've been a long time subscriber since you had 10k subs. I've been looking for an 8khz keyboard that's metal and has optical/HE switches for a long time now and finally some have appeared that don't have that ugly "gamer" look like the razer and corsairs.
You recently reviewed both the keyboards I was eyeballing. Do you think the new Wooting is better than the GMMK 3 pro or is the GMMK better? I'm stuck between these 2 as both of them have the features I want with customizable actuation and the works.
Socd is already getting banned in some games. That is funny. Mine comes today. Stoked for this keyboard.
I definitely want one of these. Also wooting software supports linux!
randomfrankp: *tests SOCD in CS2*
VAC: "I see nothing."
To be fair, he was in a private match with bots, so it probably doesn't matter. Lol idk.
Wish they make a version like huntsman v3 with media controls up.
rapid trigger probably makes warzone movement look a bit more fluid, but would SOCD do anything to improve warzone??
Happy for gamers!
The 80HE does NOT run 8KHz straight out of the box. It runs at 1k giving ~1ms latency, and 8k is activated using tachyon mode in Wootility giving ~0.125ms latency
Coming from my Roccat Vulcan TKL Pro
Come onnn mid November
You can just put volumen to layer 2 and be cool.
Anyone that encounters actuation problems. Go check if the gasket mount is seated corectly and then click in the swithes again.
Sadly they shiped me the black instead of the ghost but actually it probably looks better since I have space keycaps that are dark blue.
Still waiting on mine… pre-ordered in April
I hope they make the zinc case in blue like for the 60HE 🙏
Just take my money now!
i think pcr plastic case key sound is better than alloy case.
yes it does, metal cases usually sound more clacky than plastic
i don't get mine until mid november according to the preorder schedule :( damn you white zinc alloy!
NA-Champion here
still waiting haha
Enter, Shift, Backspace, and Tab need to be written. we can’t have four confusing arrows on a keyboard.
That LEGO hair on 🔥 🔥 🔥
false start! call the police!
Bruh I really want it in metal since I've been waiting for a better layout to get a wooting but the CAD exchange rate is really fucking me up, I can't justify the $400+ price tag 💀
I'm a keeb enthusiast but crossing the 300 mark is hard to go above especially with QK and other budget enthusiast boards like the being so amazing for under 200
I'm confused regarding the position of the right CTRL and Fn keys. On the website presentation, the CTRL key is on the right side of the Fn key, but in every unboxing I saw they are the other way around. What's the catch here?
Preordered since may 😭
Please note that SOCD is banned from use in CS2
As I said in the video.
Space bar is kinda clunky but otherwise, amazing!
Didn't embargo lift at 16:00 CEST?
yep
The best
My Wooting 80HE in black zinc has been confirmed and shipped and on its way!
would be BIS if came out 5 months ago. Dunno if you guys know about those new switches coming from TTC and Gateron, new jade pro switches and more on their way, we talking about 0.005m RTs.
First thats impossible to count and stupid chinnese brands tactic to say we are faster than wooting while they entire board is not consistient
They threw their "Universal Tray-mount" marketing right out of the window with this non-standard layout
The outcry when they revealed this weird misc-mash of a layout, one unit longer than a regular 65/75 and one short from a regular TKL. People didn't buy your 60HE because they needed the arrow keys. They simply left their Wooting One customers high and dry after making a TKL and simply leaving them out of the experience of having HE switches.
I was watching their videos about discussing the issues with 80HE and thinking they could fix it by simply moving that arrow key cluster 0.5u to the right is just... ugh
People wanted gasket so they gave it to People. Also there is no universal cases above 60%
Frank you think I should upgrade to the 80HE from the 60HE or is there really no point?
No point unless you feel limited in some way by 60% layout.
@@tehehe5929 Alright, thanks!