Why Pros LOVE Using Camile for Spacing!

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  • @EliteWea
    @EliteWea ปีที่แล้ว +262

    Yo a humble D2 mid main, it's crazy how much top laners have to manage to win their matchups in terms of skill, matchup knowledge, spacing and wave. In mid lane you have those but I don't think the matchups go that much in depth as top ones

    • @EliteWea
      @EliteWea ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Davidzinuhaha Yup could be that!

    • @ArcaneTricksterRS
      @ArcaneTricksterRS ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@Davidzinuhaha Spacing between 125-175 AA range is much harder than spacing in any mage vs mage matchup, since there isn't much kill pressure in mage vs mage anyway.

    • @nysticalzs6312
      @nysticalzs6312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nah mid is just better jg = win mid = win bot

    • @nqtduc
      @nqtduc ปีที่แล้ว +11

      but mid lane involves so much on macro and roaming. When I switch from top to mid I usually can get solo kill easier, but til mid and late game I throw my lead

    • @nooblord2416
      @nooblord2416 ปีที่แล้ว

      its might be shameful to admit but i reach GM by playing top ranged champ ( akshan jayce kaisa , kennen )

  • @locolorenz
    @locolorenz ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I started playing Camille went 70 cs in minute 25 and 1/12 never had more fun

    • @martinpato846
      @martinpato846 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      keep playing and u will be good with her :)

    • @locolorenz
      @locolorenz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@martinpato846 I'll take some time off😂

    • @fernanchistera3394
      @fernanchistera3394 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      when i started playing camille i had 30% winrate on her dont give up, shes a hard champion

  • @alzarqawi3851
    @alzarqawi3851 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Love, this channel improved my Jayce skills, Camille skills, Gnar skills and many tops more :D Respect for whoever runs this channel. Mad props, dont miss details ;)

  • @shaarkt
    @shaarkt ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As someone who plays a lot of Jayce Camille (riven aswel but not covered in this channel)
    This channel has helped me so much on jayce and that’s very interesting cuz not a lot of ppl cover Jayce that much

  • @Lelekoz
    @Lelekoz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Top in super high rank is like chess

  • @zahafhichem8860
    @zahafhichem8860 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Quality content as usual totss, have a wonderful day.

  • @hashteraksgage3281
    @hashteraksgage3281 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A good camille is the most satisfying champion to watch imo

    • @qualiayt3579
      @qualiayt3579 ปีที่แล้ว

      U should watch beifeng's akali man, almost orgasmic

  • @onghoifunny
    @onghoifunny ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for the past time for your channel!
    과거에 내 채널을 지원해 주셔서 감사합니다!
    Cảm ơn mọi người đã ủng hộ kênh mình trong xuất thời gian qua nhé!💌😜💌💔💌👀

  • @ed199685817
    @ed199685817 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Xiaolaohu actually did insanely well as Jax

  • @Test-iv4pm
    @Test-iv4pm ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If that is the secret, then is the secret for Jax to not give up on the E?
    Seems like a 50/50 mind game.

    • @bjoiel
      @bjoiel ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It is a mind game, but it is in favour of those who already know the tricks and proper spacing. So learning how to space properly is naturally an advantage.

    • @ArcaneTricksterRS
      @ArcaneTricksterRS ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's a skill match early, when cooldowns are generally equal for both and there is the interaction between the Es, but Jax outscales in the 1v1 eventually. Camille gets slightly better in terms of teamfighting, but it really depends on team comps as well, since Jax can also gain massive value in teamfights against teams with lots of physical and auto-attack damage.

    • @sieg8036
      @sieg8036 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArcaneTricksterRS true, jax is unstoppable if there's no one to stun him when he jumps on enemy adc/mid

    • @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
      @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArcaneTricksterRS Camille kind of wins in the midgame since she can easily punish Jax' E with her true damage. But once his E is maxed, it's nearly impossible to win since he will have it up every 4 seconds or so.

    • @ArcaneTricksterRS
      @ArcaneTricksterRS ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 Well, that's where snowballing comes into play. If Camille can survive enough to get two rotations of her true damage in, then she can win.

  • @xdesolateone8564
    @xdesolateone8564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Give up the E? man i have jax players int to try and get a good E off

    • @KenjiAsakura09
      @KenjiAsakura09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the LeeSyndrome, your body just wants it

  • @error-xw3sl
    @error-xw3sl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can have a video explain how jax should play? thx a lot btw.

  • @revivedsoul1099
    @revivedsoul1099 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Impressive how much high elo players utilize abilities at max. Not afraid to divert from norm, reason why they can be at top. The matchup knowledge impressive to. Some players might just perma pick q or w, was cool how Bin utilized E to his advantage, ending up solo killing. You wonder what ways can i make the matchup differen when playing. Its beautiful. I think at top there is room for more expression early being that they strong early but less reliant on certain ability than mid lane champions. Make me think how can Zed benefit from starting W first, or Yasuo W, Or Viktor W. I guess this was niche start but its nice its getting high lighted. Its mind game, playing chess aswell micro. Great video

    • @KenjiAsakura09
      @KenjiAsakura09 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Starting W on Zed is a good way to be 30 CS under your opponent

  • @unclemaggot
    @unclemaggot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is good and all but how are we going to do when the laning phase is over?

  • @TheRawJaws
    @TheRawJaws ปีที่แล้ว

    I just cant keep up all the spacing and micro every time I sit down to play. One mistake and you are done. Recently stucked before plat promos which i lost due to an afk player..

  • @dominiorrr6510
    @dominiorrr6510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Weird title. It's not that pros love using Camille for spacing. Spacing well is a requirement to play Camille well. It's like saying "why pros love Caitlyn for positioning?". Or "why pros love Twisted Fate for map awaraness?". Kinda doesn't make sense.

    • @gvg870
      @gvg870 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good spacing is a requirement in almost every melee vs melee matchup in top lane... Not just Camille. But Camille demonstrates good spacing yields higher rewards than the other melee champs becuase of her kit - she utilises trade windows where spacing optimises her damage. She's a rotation based champ, not like Tryndamere for example. Hence the title.

  • @djohnthesalty
    @djohnthesalty ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay, I think I'm losing my mind. Is there some kind of inside joke where people comment about other videos on this video? I'm seeing so much unrelated shit that I'm starting to think I'm just stupid.

  • @derpferdeflusterer3460
    @derpferdeflusterer3460 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uff so much to consider. Just go illaoi and instakill the toplaner when he comes to close

  • @malikjohnson6083
    @malikjohnson6083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro as a top lane main who’s trying to learn the micro stuffs of laning phase to reach atleast Diamond 4 next season, this vid helps a lot, thank you 🙏🏾

  • @systematic3550
    @systematic3550 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bin better in my opinion at Camile

    • @lunacy5510
      @lunacy5510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's like saying water is wet. Nobody except Ale comes close to Bin in terms of unleashing the full champion's potential and mechanics.

    • @gvg870
      @gvg870 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lunacy5510 Watch Cereal / Liu Bai - they're insanely good at Camille

  • @dadadadadadadadabathman2300
    @dadadadadadadadabathman2300 ปีที่แล้ว

    you kind of copied dobby's style and songs

  • @rivehnchan4169
    @rivehnchan4169 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jayce + Camille are highest skill ceiling champs in top lane, it's why you can tell theres a difference in top laner skill by who plays the Jayces and camilles (Korea + China) vs the Eu/NA tops

    • @metroboomin1070
      @metroboomin1070 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also Fiora

    • @ardartrin3769
      @ardartrin3769 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@metroboomin1070 Fiora doesnt even come close

    • @itexistsbeyondtimedeeznuts7949
      @itexistsbeyondtimedeeznuts7949 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except the best kr and LPL tops also play ornn and jax and aatrox

    • @rivehnchan4169
      @rivehnchan4169 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@metroboomin1070 you're thinking skill floor. No one bothers to learn all of her matchups as a pro but in terms of ceiling, just spacing alone is easier in fiora cos of her q, whereas Jayce especially lives and dies on gaining small auto advantages through spacing unpunished

    • @marinriv514
      @marinriv514 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gp jayce fiora hardest

  • @slamburglar909
    @slamburglar909 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are saying what they are doing, but not why, so this information is useless to me.
    The “why” is important because it helps me understand what to do if Jax doesn’t do the things this Jax does, if he doesn’t play as optimally, or for other matchups.

  • @michaelvey9776
    @michaelvey9776 ปีที่แล้ว

    he has no q tho on that doran's first blood. he didn't use q ms. i think he just pure baited jax playing with the turret's auto range cuz it's right at the edge tempting jax to try gauging where is turret's auto range is. camille was lvl 2 and jax was lvl 3. jax get's first blood if camille got hit by the stun.

  • @crystalzroblox9177
    @crystalzroblox9177 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy how this is basically 1v1 all game, most of the time in mid lane u either get punished by every other laner and their jungle for every misplay

  • @monishr5514
    @monishr5514 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been trying to learn Top for a while now, but I just lose my lane too hard and the enemy top just carries the game and we lose the game, so I need help xD, please.

  • @savatarx99
    @savatarx99 ปีที่แล้ว

    And r/camillemains will tell you this matchup is unplayable xd

  • @wildexperiense
    @wildexperiense ปีที่แล้ว

    3:16 did you just called a 3 range freeze a perfect freeze? That's impossible to freeze it will always push back into 3 ranges unless you drag them closer to their wave

    • @marvinpanvan
      @marvinpanvan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it was 4 casters tho? + jax autoing wave

  • @stealthiness_
    @stealthiness_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can I get the second song name?

    • @bongbo7935
      @bongbo7935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Syn Cole - Time

  • @Verodir
    @Verodir ปีที่แล้ว

    how you get timeline like this or is it korea only stuff

  • @soplicasiemanko
    @soplicasiemanko ปีที่แล้ว

    cho ult on q

  • @legacyyyyyyyy
    @legacyyyyyyyy ปีที่แล้ว

    I hit euw diamond with camille this season and can definetly recommend her as a consistent pick

    • @Al-tanin
      @Al-tanin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love to learn Camille brother and to get plat with her, but i struggle a lot with her being almost forced to short trade. (I'm used to darius lol)
      What is your ban and your worst matchups?
      For what i've seen jax fiora and renek are the worst, the rest is mostly skill matchup

    • @xavierbellet6355
      @xavierbellet6355 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Al-tanin I ranked top 1 camille in my server yday, go to ban= jax. worst match ups= poppy, teemo, renekton, darius. every other match up is playable including Fiora.

  • @jimmykudo11
    @jimmykudo11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most of your tip came from the Top champs. can you discuss different roles too?

    • @TodayOnTheSuperServer
      @TodayOnTheSuperServer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Top is my 2nd least guides after support in terms of amount. Most is mid, adc, then jg, top, sup. Only recently I've been uploading top lane tips.

    • @jimmykudo11
      @jimmykudo11 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TodayOnTheSuperServer oww thanks

  • @incognito9537
    @incognito9537 ปีที่แล้ว

    兄弟,这个歌是啥呀?谢谢

  • @user-bs8er4el7d
    @user-bs8er4el7d ปีที่แล้ว

    please make more jungle content

  • @Rosawww
    @Rosawww ปีที่แล้ว

    Rip xiaolaohu

  • @qj3476
    @qj3476 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome❤

  • @bafumier
    @bafumier ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content as Always TOTSS. You're the best

  • @nguyentranquocanh4593
    @nguyentranquocanh4593 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tks man

  • @berone9670
    @berone9670 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:26 cam doesnt have q speed? only has e and w

    • @aeir7011
      @aeir7011 ปีที่แล้ว

      ACTIVE: Camille empowers her next basic attack within 4 seconds to have an Relentless uncancellable windup, gain Range icon.png 50 bonus range, deal bonus physical damage and grant her Movement speed bonus movement speed for 1 second.

    • @berone9670
      @berone9670 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aeir7011 look bottom left, he doesn't have q unlocked !!

  • @Test-iv4pm
    @Test-iv4pm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Bin's melees healthier, walk up to auto Jax first"
    What does this mean? (why healthier melees mean should auto first?)

    • @asdfghj4163
      @asdfghj4163 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      the jax will have to walk up to cs the minion before bin because jax’s minions will die first

    • @Test-iv4pm
      @Test-iv4pm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asdfghj4163 oh thank you

    • @petormaculan5424
      @petormaculan5424 ปีที่แล้ว

      By autoing Jax he makes Jax choose between autoing back or getting the cs

  • @6700adam
    @6700adam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    played this matchup one time as Jax, and this day i understood ; camille is just op ^^

    • @dalgeubam
      @dalgeubam ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ኃጢአተኛ ነፍስህ ከመዳን በላይ ናት እናም ሰላምን ወይም ሥቃይን አታውቅም ፣ የንስሐ ቅዝቃዜ ብቻ አብቅቷል ፣ ምክንያቱም ኃጢአቶችህ ከማንኛውም ተልእኮ የላቀ ስለሆነ ፣ መጨረሻው ቀርቧል ፣ የኃጢአት መርከቦች

    • @dejojoo
      @dejojoo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dalgeubam 💀💀💀

    • @Lucifer-cj3uq
      @Lucifer-cj3uq ปีที่แล้ว

      u re just bad

  • @nin1ten1do
    @nin1ten1do ปีที่แล้ว

    nice.,.

  • @kys2652
    @kys2652 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was having trouble with this matchup thank you bro :D