@@guilhermevaz4425 stop talk nonsense , it's not because Zeus did a bad final (that can happen ) that's made him a bad toplaner , Zeus is still the best toplaner
thank you for all your video about Zeus spacing they are all really insane, well explained and by being a Jayce main it really help me to see how this champ is supposed to be play.
I swear, every time I see really good players like Zeus play, I get the motivation to learn Jayce, get into a draft game and try him out... Then go 0/7, get depressed then give up Then I see Zeus playing again and get the motivation to play him again and so on...
the key of champs like jayce, Teemo, Quinn, is the spacing, you need to now the enemy cd and how they work, if you learn to space and kite, you can climb very ez, i got master with Teemo by pure doing 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 2 in early game, destroying enemys by insane kiting, the match is very important, for example if the enemy have a jg like elise, you have to prepare because that type of jg, gank you very early, like min 2:30 or 3:00, and if you get stun, you will die for sure, the wave control is other important thing, in some games i die so much but having insane cs, i dont leave enemy farm meanwhile i got 10 cs x min
The thing is Zeus, even if he is in a 0/7 situation, can somehow make himself useful. There are games where he was focused so hard his early and mid game was a literal living hell, and even then he still manages to stay relevant to the game.
Its def harder and ik u don’t wanna grief your teammates but you will learn MUCH faster if you play him only in ranked and not draft games because you’re not getting a realistic example of how champs should work/ be played. Overall I couldn’t agree with your comment more tho. I am adc and feel the same way with Korean adcs playing certain champs sometimes LOL
This is the best coaching channel, because it doesn't do result-based analysis. Even if the particular play doesn't work out, it points out that it was a good play with a certain meaning behind it. Other coaches would randomly say "What the hell are you doing?" after the play was decided that it failed, or the exact same play would be praised if it worked.
"What the hell are you doing?" after the play was decided that it failed, or the exact same play would be praised if it worked. Couldn't have said this any better. This is exactly why I think coaching is completely useless nowadays, it's just that majority of coaches don't know what they're doing
I get you, I coached my friend to help him get to gold. a lot of the things I told him were don’t do that, it worked cause you got lucky but that play was not worth. He got to pull off several outplays before since even if he was killable just through autos people would keep using skillshots and miss, especially against ezreals
@@meow-meow-beans My friend was doing placements last season, starting from silver 2, and was playing Viego jungle. I taught him so many things, even basics like how to clear camps (for some reason, he didn't use Viego's Q AoE to clear camps properly, what do you know), to more advanced things like pathing and how to play the game after 25 minutes, where to go, even they can do barons or just push. Generally laid out the gameplan for him and he was just controlling the character. He reached Plat 4 with a winrate of 32-5 or something like that. Game didn't even skip him any divisions which was super weird.
This is how Zeus got his name. It was suggested to him by his mother due to his complete mastery of Jayce and Kennen - two of his favorite champions that happens to wield the lightning element.
The amount of concentration required to do this all lane phase while recognising other things such as warding, jungle pathing, lane states etc is amazing
Neat he uses the same camera movement setting I use. 1st time I've seen a vid of someone else using click drag to move cam. Obvs many ppl do but I've just never seen anyone else use it
As a general tip for people learning lanes: you have to understand your matchup, that means you should think about "what does the enemy champion do, and how will I get punished for doing what I can do". If you think along that like you'll pick up most of the basics and be able to start focusing more on the macro of things and naturally figure out how to play the micro like this
Such an amazing video once again. As I've improved at the game, I find it harder and harder to utilize active thinking as more and more things become second nature. Does anyone have any advice as to how I would practice thinking about outcomes in the moment?
Like…. I guess yeah but… pantheon started out really REALLY bad with those q’s. And he needs that early damage to really get a grip. I dunno I just wish sometimes they would show how to handle another high skill player in these instructional videos
You can Q first then E and still get the E’s distance and dmg increase. Jayce E overall is definitely one of the highest skill cap abilities in the game
3:49 assuming he kills, its still 1 for 1 for sure. No way he gets out of tower range in time. Is that even better for him than just not going in at all?
@@emanuelgarrido811 panth would always have to back. He is to low to be able to step out of tower range. Trading kills just feels like wasting a chance to get an even bigger lead
@@alex2005z bigger lead in the long run doesn't mean a better or faster lead. A challenger player smurfing will always take a 1 for 1 because they can utilize the items they get better than the enemy. Of course this is challenger; but clearly he is still better than panth. Smurfs always say "oh I don't care if a plat player gets 300 gold if I get 300 gold" In general, a worse player will not see as many opportunities whether subtle or directly; so their item isn't as efficient as a challenger player getting an extra item. Additionally, you also have to factor in champ strengths; panth getting an extra long sword doesn't do him much since he's already a high damage early game. With all that being said; he could have just been limit testing as well given his reaction.
@@andeederek9338 he clearly was limit testing, no dought in that, but he was so far away from getting out alive that its ridiculous to think he would ever do it. He probably wanted the 1 for 1. And yes, you can generate more gold with the trade, but it still feels like a waste. This is not something you would ever do in a pro game so why practice like that?
He want to stay away from turret asap because he knew Panth gonna ult him so he prepare to run. You can see Panth ult at 7:06 so if he choose melee he would die
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Man zeus, is just the guy that keeps me going back to toplane to try again, his basics is just so well refined. He makes me wanna tryharder each time
I totally agree, as a top laner myself is so enjoyable for me the 1v1 and wave managment. But god if i hate it too
yeah, kingen teach him a lot of thins too..
@@guilhermevaz4425 stop talk nonsense , it's not because Zeus did a bad final (that can happen ) that's made him a bad toplaner , Zeus is still the best toplaner
@@darkerthanblack4819 yes. i might be delusional but its just aatrox carrying DRX, and t1 is too confident to not ban aatrox
@@ryoougi9088 yeah it's true , T1 had to ban Aatrox , thanks Bengi for draft... 🙄 !
thank you for all your video about Zeus spacing they are all really insane, well explained and by being a Jayce main it really help me to see how this champ is supposed to be play.
I swear, every time I see really good players like Zeus play, I get the motivation to learn Jayce, get into a draft game and try him out...
Then go 0/7, get depressed then give up
Then I see Zeus playing again and get the motivation to play him again and so on...
the key of champs like jayce, Teemo, Quinn, is the spacing, you need to now the enemy cd and how they work, if you learn to space and kite, you can climb very ez, i got master with Teemo by pure doing 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 2 in early game, destroying enemys by insane kiting, the match is very important, for example if the enemy have a jg like elise, you have to prepare because that type of jg, gank you very early, like min 2:30 or 3:00, and if you get stun, you will die for sure, the wave control is other important thing, in some games i die so much but having insane cs, i dont leave enemy farm meanwhile i got 10 cs x min
How to make it so smooth. Im still not
The thing is Zeus, even if he is in a 0/7 situation, can somehow make himself useful. There are games where he was focused so hard his early and mid game was a literal living hell, and even then he still manages to stay relevant to the game.
@@laisensei6984 you should not play this game anymore
Its def harder and ik u don’t wanna grief your teammates but you will learn MUCH faster if you play him only in ranked and not draft games because you’re not getting a realistic example of how champs should work/ be played. Overall I couldn’t agree with your comment more tho. I am adc and feel the same way with Korean adcs playing certain champs sometimes LOL
I love every Jayce Zeus video you make!
This is the best coaching channel, because it doesn't do result-based analysis. Even if the particular play doesn't work out, it points out that it was a good play with a certain meaning behind it.
Other coaches would randomly say "What the hell are you doing?" after the play was decided that it failed, or the exact same play would be praised if it worked.
Glad you enjoy it!
"What the hell are you doing?" after the play was decided that it failed, or the exact same play would be praised if it worked.
Couldn't have said this any better. This is exactly why I think coaching is completely useless nowadays, it's just that majority of coaches don't know what they're doing
Thatll be 350$
I get you, I coached my friend to help him get to gold. a lot of the things I told him were don’t do that, it worked cause you got lucky but that play was not worth. He got to pull off several outplays before since even if he was killable just through autos people would keep using skillshots and miss, especially against ezreals
@@meow-meow-beans My friend was doing placements last season, starting from silver 2, and was playing Viego jungle. I taught him so many things, even basics like how to clear camps (for some reason, he didn't use Viego's Q AoE to clear camps properly, what do you know), to more advanced things like pathing and how to play the game after 25 minutes, where to go, even they can do barons or just push. Generally laid out the gameplan for him and he was just controlling the character. He reached Plat 4 with a winrate of 32-5 or something like that. Game didn't even skip him any divisions which was super weird.
Thx for extremely detailed analysis of his spacing, was very useful and really liked the translation
This is how Zeus got his name. It was suggested to him by his mother due to his complete mastery of Jayce and Kennen - two of his favorite champions that happens to wield the lightning element.
Awesome analysis🎉
thanks for this helpful video
This guys was in his first year of pro career, I cant imagine the performance of the following years
It is also worth noting that whenever pantheon uses w with passive, zeus changes to hammer form to get some armor and take less damage from the combo
Thats like common knowledge of playing Jayce top lane, kinda. You can use this vs Pan, Jax, Camile.. champs that jump onto you.
such a good video
The amount of concentration required to do this all lane phase while recognising other things such as warding, jungle pathing, lane states etc is amazing
He does it for a living
@@stann4730No way
@@stann4730 you couldnt do that in million years even if you did it for a living,lmfao
I love how everyone on zeus' team pinged the lee flash
Neat he uses the same camera movement setting I use. 1st time I've seen a vid of someone else using click drag to move cam. Obvs many ppl do but I've just never seen anyone else use it
he be breaking so many ankles sheeesh
Commenting for the almighty algorithm
I used to learn basic, fundamentals of laning by watching Chovy replays, now from Zeus.
correct title: zeus is breaking his keyboard
This is some 4d chess and I'm just out here eating crayons.
that pantheon played well too. i wouldnt be surprised if he was a pro player too.
The way pantheon plays make me wanna die
He sure broke his ankle on msi.
As a general tip for people learning lanes: you have to understand your matchup, that means you should think about "what does the enemy champion do, and how will I get punished for doing what I can do". If you think along that like you'll pick up most of the basics and be able to start focusing more on the macro of things and naturally figure out how to play the micro like this
And you know what ? Whenever Pant uses W he immediately change to melee because it gives more armor
Yeah! But you pretty much do it with or without the armor since you gotta use hammer form E.
You have a video from 7 months ago on the same VOD don't you?
Jesus Christ, I would be tilted af if I saw someone manhandle me like Zeus did to this Pantheon.
Wukong looks OP
he s toplane monster
when Jayce plays zeus, he deals huge damage but when I play jayce I deal 1 damage
Ikr
Which editor do you use to edit your videos?
Premiere pro!
Such an amazing video once again. As I've improved at the game, I find it harder and harder to utilize active thinking as more and more things become second nature. Does anyone have any advice as to how I would practice thinking about outcomes in the moment?
watch your own game replays
1:20 i feel like zeus made a little mistake here, he couldve tried to get lvl 2 faster to e+q panth under tower.
Hi Totss can you do some content or videos on Jax if possible? :)
Of course. I actually made a few Jax you can go check them out!
I see Zeus playing like this and I'm literally just thinking how there's 0 hope for NA.
Vs kingen ???
7:26 Q the first cs then walk away from pantheon so he walk up to u ^^
Like…. I guess yeah but… pantheon started out really REALLY bad with those q’s. And he needs that early damage to really get a grip. I dunno I just wish sometimes they would show how to handle another high skill player in these instructional videos
dude if you pausing the video then pause it a bit longer so we get time to read
Just whrn you think the game cantget deeper every click has meaning
Zeus won the lane in 15 seconds.
He really did
3:25 preemptively
Learn from me best in the world
Is Zeus jayce better than Bins?
At least 101,000 people know his secret
Pretty sure Deft also lanes similarily
Bgm is really loud
Anyone know how Zeus E on himself and then Qs?? It seems instantaneous when i see his Jayce plays
You q and then place the e on top of the q. If you do it farther out its still faster but not as fast as this
You can Q first then E and still get the E’s distance and dmg increase. Jayce E overall is definitely one of the highest skill cap abilities in the game
hey totss, it's everyone
Why the song goes “A niga”?
Same reason twitch says Nihga Waza,koreans are racist confirmed
why he always pressing space he getting advantage from this no!
How the fuq am I supposed to compete with those players xD
you‘re not
You get better a little at a time
@@greenhat7618 well how do I get challenger then xD
@@zitrone4702get good. There isnt much to it
@@zitrone4702 you won’t be getting challenger in Korea if you had to ask this
3:49 assuming he kills, its still 1 for 1 for sure. No way he gets out of tower range in time. Is that even better for him than just not going in at all?
Trading kills would be good since it's slow pushing into Zeus. Panth would lose at least 1 full wave worth of exp
@@emanuelgarrido811 panth would always have to back. He is to low to be able to step out of tower range. Trading kills just feels like wasting a chance to get an even bigger lead
@@alex2005z bigger lead in the long run doesn't mean a better or faster lead. A challenger player smurfing will always take a 1 for 1 because they can utilize the items they get better than the enemy. Of course this is challenger; but clearly he is still better than panth. Smurfs always say "oh I don't care if a plat player gets 300 gold if I get 300 gold" In general, a worse player will not see as many opportunities whether subtle or directly; so their item isn't as efficient as a challenger player getting an extra item. Additionally, you also have to factor in champ strengths; panth getting an extra long sword doesn't do him much since he's already a high damage early game.
With all that being said; he could have just been limit testing as well given his reaction.
@@andeederek9338 he clearly was limit testing, no dought in that, but he was so far away from getting out alive that its ridiculous to think he would ever do it. He probably wanted the 1 for 1. And yes, you can generate more gold with the trade, but it still feels like a waste. This is not something you would ever do in a pro game so why practice like that?
@@alex2005z Idk; for fun probably
oof 244 fps and 8 ms compared to the average na player's 60hz and 98 ms on na
Bruh what the fuck is that laning. Dude is playing an entirely different game.
Sorry but 3:53, what an inter
Please tes knight or showmaker lanning :((
Knight doesn't stream anymore due to the poor worlds performance. Lots of haters currently, but I will check out showmaker laning
@@TodayOnTheSuperServer ok tks u
Too bad he played like a Diamond vs Kingen in Match5
He taught many things to Kingen according to Kingen's interview prior to the finals match.
Kahn still better. Fun to wtch tho
Can dodge q’s but can’t hit them
damnnn zeus really is stupid cracked. sad to see him robbed for lck awards :(
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Zeus is awesome but lee misplayed a bit this game
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Nice plays. But he is a world chocke artist.
I mean he played really well except the finals.
Kingen owns him easily
Xd
7:00 why does he not switch to melee form to do more damage to tower?
He want to stay away from turret asap because he knew Panth gonna ult him so he prepare to run. You can see Panth ult at 7:06 so if he choose melee he would die