Pointing out that she made an insensitive comment is one thing, but that level of hate and malice is insane. Being nasty online doesn’t help people change, it just alienates and radicalizes them against you.
I like Amber. Shes talented and real. Cancel cultural is bullshit and toxic. The girl made a mistake by commenting on an explosive topic. She gave a sincere apology. Leave her alone and let her live her life.
It wasnt sincere in my opinion. From what i remember her first response wasnt good. It seems she only apologized become her money and popularity got negatively impacted. Her fans were disappointed.
it was all blown up way out of proportion bc kpop stans are absolutely insane and were already looking for any excuse to hate on a woman who isnt as femenine as the others lol and they got the perfect excuse
I'm always a fan of Amber & she's the one who really stood up for late Sulli when everyone else were hating on her. Srsly, best wishes for Amber, she deserved all love, flowers & hearts in this world
She received the Sulli treatment. It was very sad. She even mentioned it, just be kind. The internet is f***ed up. People dont get the difference between free speech and bullying/harrasing.
@@sofypi7493 She did wrong then apologize. She was what, 24 yo? It is incredible how arrogant you must be to criticize someone as if you aaaaaall are perfect people who never make mistakes. Fyi Sulli “was wrong” to korean society, thats what they sticked for to make her quit her life. Amber was wrong to internet people, even more intransigent than korean society. So yes, she got the never deserved Sulli treatment
The sandwich thing will never make sense to me. Sign said no eating. Dude was eating. Nothing racist about enforcing the sign. Blowing up non-issues like this is why some people don't take actual race issues seriously. When you're screaming and pointing at this as being racist, some people will just be like, "Oh, these people are plain crazy. They think they should be allowed to break laws because of their race." You're sending the completely wrong message and discrediting actual race issues. Things like this are why progress is being undone.
She's got the guts to say something in front of many people, apologize when she realized how insensitive it was, and then say her thoughts on haters. That's showing guts and kudos to her.
@@suzanneraymundo5835 some public figure don’t even take accountability at all ! At least she did . At least she got the guts to tell everyone she was wrong !
For all of you judging her A. Person who acknowledged her mistake , changed for the better . Apologize publicly admitting she was wrong and took accountability is better than y’all who are judgmental.
this just proves to me for the 286th time that being normal and not known public figure with no social media is the way to go for peaceful life cuz people on the internet has no empathy
>"the apology was not accepted." Pause. Are you people serious? That apology is very sincere. This is not making amends. Amber genuinely didn't know that racial issues in the USA are bad and is trying to do better, be better. YES EVEN IF SHE SHOULD'VE KNOWN THAT. Why do people even ask for apologies at this point? What point is there in people improving if when once people fuck up, it's permanent and nothing can undo what they have done? "Just say you messed up " SHE DID. SHE SAID SHE MESSED UP??? I'm genuinely sick of this behavior. Do you want people to change for a better world or do you want a dystopia where if someone says as much as one wrong word they get shot on sight? I wonder how the haters will feel when THEY mess up and are faced with the same unforgivingness from their community.
@hox6287 yeah... I'm black and I accepted her apology. When ignorant people say ignorant things then try to educate themselves... I give them the benefit of the doubt. Amber isn't black and will never understand the nuances of that existence, so she will only see the world through her lense.
This type of k-fan culture is so toxic, no one absolutely NO ONE believes in mistakes or forgiveness, they act like a person MUST be perfect and they don't make mistakes themselves. They only judge others as if they are God and superior. Very sad and annoying that's why I can't go on some of these sites like Twitter
@@HadassaMoon144 im black and i dont accept it. idgaf what she said after, how tone deaf can you be to say that about the george floyd situation. someone lost their life and thats the response you chose to give? she shoudnt have jumped to conclusions regardless if she 'didnt' understand
I have always been a fan of Amber and I will continue to be that fan. The haters must have forgotten that they too are human and that they too make mistakes. We may not know about their mistakes publically, however, in one fashion or another, those haters got their karma as well.
I am black myself and follow amber liu in kpop and she never shown any racism into she made that comment and to me that wasn't racism because maybe she knew he wasn't suppose to ate a sandwhich there. she didn't make it easy when she said she was in korean for 10 years when she did go home alot but when they bring that up you got to remember she don't really have black friends just asian and white so that why the sandwhich thing didn't look racism to her and she actually trying to learn about us but people giving her sulli treat me show me that they haven't learn anything either its not like she said the n-word or said he should got beat for she just said he need to go to jail for yelling at the cop and still eating sandwich . i guess it take alot for me to call someone racism. i hope amber is okay.
There was a black lady who use to appear in her old videos. I don't know if she is/was a close friend or just a friend of a friend. I don't think that the controversy has anything to do with race, I think that Amber was mostly thinking about law and following the rules. Anyway, not enough to cancel and hate on someone, I agree that those where her old haters who just found a great opportunity to insult her, but is likely that they disliked her already, mostly for her looks.
I feel bad for Amber bc she got so much hate just bc it was during the time of “cancel culture.” As we’ve all learned by now, cancel culture doesn’t hold people accountable to their actions and is far more worst. She was right in every aspect that she took the necessary steps to educate herself and be a part of the solution meanwhile everyone dragged her. She didn’t deserve the hate. Cancel culture is toxic and she, unfortunately got caught in it during that time. Had it been now, I don’t think people would reacted as childish and it wouldn’t had affected her as much.
You arent looing at the whole picture and how much harm her ignorance caused. She was one of many bashing or speaking out against the sandwhich eating guy he would have faced harsher punishment if more people didnt speak out on his behalf. Its insane that eating a sandwhich became an international issue. It never should have been so...but it was. It wasnt just "cancel culture" she told the people....her fans to unfollow her. She cancelled herself by her bad response. She should have spoken towards her fans.
@@Splexsychiick I don’t think the point was that he was “just eating a sandwich” the point was that no food or drinks are allowed and he chose to eat at that location anyway. It’s showing no respect for the rules and for the people around him. There’s a legitimate reason why no food or drinks are allowed in the subway. Police were trying to enforce the rules
It said no drink or food was allowed, but the guy ignored that and kept eating and when police talk to him about it, he acted as if the police were in the wrong?
@@comaneci_nadia Yes, he was in the wrong for not wanted to follow the rule. We have rules for a reason and some people don't want to follow it. They think they above the law and would use their race or colour of skin as a card to get out of trouble that they created. It's crazy!
cancelling culture is actually very needed especially in this modern world. i wish the people in my country would adapt and embrace this cancel culture, because it pains us to see deranged and immoral people getting excessive and immense attention all over the place and enjoy the money they milk from it. the world need to get better. peace from Indonesia
I didn't like her very much, because she really isn't a good role model, but now, seeing all the hate she received, because of an OPINION, I can certainly respect her a little. And she shouldn't have apologized.
Is it an unpopular opinion that the only reason people hated sohard is because shes a woman. If she was a man I feel people would have forgave and move on.
Her solo career would have blown up and no one would have cared about her remarks (that she apologized for) IF she was a Man, and even IF she had even done much worse ......... PLUS people's scrutiny towards her would also have been less harsher if she had adhered to the conventional beauty standards for female artists and had incorporated sex and objectification to sell out her music
this just hit me with a huge wave of nostalgia :') i used to have a stan twt acc for amber for a couple years since she was my ult bias but as i got older and f(x)'s activities slowly started dying out, i kinda lost interest :( i sort of remember when the whole controversy was going on tho and just not engaging, just hoping she was okay mentally esp since sulli was also a victim of netz's and we lost her, RIP :/ back then all kinds of fandoms/stans were using the " # ____ is over party" for the dumbest things so when something was actually serious it was frustrating that ppl decided to not actually care abt an issue but join the bandwagon as a joke and or take it to the extreme without any intentions to actually listen to someone wanting to correct their mistake. lil unrelated but ill never forget when my random comment made it on one of her videos on her whatthepineaple yt channel, it was YEARS ago now and i dont think the video is up anymore but i will still never change my icon or name on here bc if it. it truly made my entire life at that point in time LOL, to this day prob the coolest interaction ive had with an idol
Next content would be all the support to Amber. How one falls and ignore bashes and hates. All celebrities go through things like this. Keep fighting Amber.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Do you believe in magic? Yeah, it is not real. Just like the hypothetical chance that Amber is just an innocent girl who lived in the jungle and knows nothing about societal norms. Especially if we are talking U.S. "norms" She lived there long enough to understand racism, colorism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Stop giving Asians a break. They ARE (obviously) smarter than you.
Next time something happens to you, you better not be calling 911 for help. I mean not for ANYTHING. You people who want to disrespect cops so much have no right to beg for help when in an emergency and your life is at stake.
@@alexandriasalazar8522are you ok? You need to calm down. You're so mad when the cops were literally in the wrong. "You people..." I'm smelling racism behind that comment. You're so worked up over something that happened years ago. Please get a hobby.
I know I am not black but common She is a human too . She made a mistake . She educated herself , she changed for the better and stand up for Black Lives Matter ! People are humans ! They make mistakes ! Let them learn dang it !
@@heavenlykai6839 yeah what she did was bad . She shouldn’t talk about it .but she realized that what she did was wrong , so she changed . And protest for Black Lives Matter Isn’t that what people suppose to do ? Realize what they did was wrong and change ?
People need to stop putting kpop idols on a high pedestal. I’m sure there’s more who think the way she does, especially knowing that Korea’s a conservative country. She atleast educated herself.
Why after five years people still talk about this thing. Does that mean she did everything excellent all other years ? The repeated reference hilarious.😅anyone pass by welcome to listen to ambers new song Dusk Till Dawn. You’ll get amazed 🫶🏻hope everyone happy and feel loved despite the video
cause they can't move on from hate and cancelling idols taking the rest of their life ...let support Amber as we do...that hilarious some even concerned she couldn't make enough money while her DTD still banger and she doing so well nowadays.
It's a kpop channel with comments from people whose whole personality is kpop, living vicariously through the internet. Of course it won't pass the vibe check.
@@RandalReid that honestly kind of explain it. Where is the nuance? Do these people consume something else that has more depth than drama channel? I apologise if that was quite rude, but if some people really do hinge their personalities on K-pop and living vicariously through the internet (K-pop netizen vibes, honestly...), ... it's just not healthy, I personally think.
WHAT??? Chinese celebrities always do these brand livestreams a lot? Even Vic does it. Also. That video, was almost like a setup. They shouldn't have uploaded that knowing how bad cancel culture was during that time. Her being a woman and a tomboy made the hate even worst. It was one ignorant mistake and she til now is being called a racist when she told over and over again that she isn,'t and trying to educate herself more and apologizing repeatedly. While there are SO MANY TOO MANY male celebrities that have done criminal things but they don't have the same energy for those scumbags, they even get back to limelight and is being celebrated. While that group was playing the video, she wasn't even looking at the screen. She didn't even seem to know the guy was POC. In the complete video, she told that she once had to follow rules made by an authority in a club. But after a while in the same evening, she ended up still not following the rules and laughed. Like telling, it's okay. But if there are authorities around better not get their attention to you. She just didn't word them right because she thought those ytbers were her friends and it was safe. She even was there at the protests for Floyd. This girl while she was still in Korea, yearly goes to the remote and poor places in Korea to bring and carry coals to the mountains so that the people there would not feel too cold during winter. Her Chinese debut wasn't bad, she even had concert tours. She has solid fans and despite her not being as popular anymore in the west or in Korea, she's still well-loved by her people. I think she learned to not care about the haters. I hope she's doing well now. She and her members have gone thru so much to deserve getting this much hate. One life lost is not enough for people. She's even one of the most that are more vulnerable to it losing her friend due to hate and witchhunt. I hope she stays strong. Thanking everyday that she has a very supportive family who never leave her behind.
As a fan of f(x) while they were still active, who listened to and enjoyed most of her solo and duet projects from Borders to Shake that Brass to Wave and Heartbeat, watched a lot of her reality and variety show content, TH-cam content, I think I even checked out her acting debut in Entourage I think it was. The thing is, when she left SM and wanted to take creative control and write her own songs, they were such a genre change I gave up after a few releases as it wasn't the style that I had enjoyed listing to from her for years. I know she wanted to do something else, more power to her, I didn't want to hear it. And on top of that she wasn't doing any major reality or variety shows to showcase her personality. I think that's why she wanted to do more TH-cam, What the Pineapple had done well, but she didn't have the same level of support or structure backing her up and managing her. To think, if she stayed with SM she'd still be getting a single or two a year, some acting here or there, variety show gigs, and endorsements, they'd probably still be paying for an official F(X) dorm she could stay in for free, but she wanted control and independence.
What the Pineapple was my favorite channel to watch back in the day, and its pretty ironic that both Amber and Scott turned out to be awful people. I also really liked Amber but after her comments about the black guy and police officer, I was done with her
@0403s No shit Sherlock. I know black cops exist. But if people stand by her, then that's their prerogative. But she had no right to speak about the unfair violence that my people face every single day. Being scared that myself, my family or even my friends who are also black could be killed by cops shouldn't even be in the back of my mind but that's the world we live in. Yes there are good cops but the corrupt ones overshadow the good ones
Black people killed black people more than white these days yet y'all don't want to make a fuss about it. Y'all act as if yall are the only one oppressed 😂i experience racism among black people more as an black Asian yet I don't scream racism on everyone's face. People start to forget the privileges they have and take it for granted and then scream racism just because someone's statement doesn't fit your narrative.
I know sometimes sensitive topics make people respond in ways that they usually wouldn't but some people take it way too far. You can educate someone without being so mean. I believe she understood what was wrong once it was explained to her and I think she educated herself further to better understand certain issues. People need to know when to stop. The people who drag these things out aren't even offended by what she said, they're just filled with hate and use it as an excuse to attack her. I'm also tired of non-black fans who use issues that affect us for their fan wars. Don't pretend to be offended because you see it as a free pass to hate on idols you don't like. They change their tune as soon as someone they like does something offensive. We all just need to remember that idols are human. Speak to them properly and more people may be willing to listen and learn
Well, she didnt got into kpop for her talent or beauty... she got on kpop for her tomboy looks and that work on the context of the group. Now there isnt a talent she can relay on... i dont think this is result of cancelation is just that her talent is really below avarage compare to other idols. Even before this cancelation her projects never call the public attention.
I like her, she's talented and lovable and smart. But one thing more that's disappointing to me is she says many time that she's "Chinese" or her root is China (to please the merket there), when actually she was born in LA as an American and both her parents are from TAIWAN. Well, she may again argue that she's not in the know of the tension and controversy between China and Taiwan. And it's true that China embraces her because she's like a poster figure embodying "internationality" and "openness" for a dictative communist country.
I was really young when fx debuted and she was the reason that made me remembered fx 😂 Back then girl idols look very similar to each other so her tomboyish style stood out to me.
@@zippiizhappy same! i remember watching a top 50 girl group ranking back in like 2012 not knowing really anything about kpop besides bigbang and when f(x) vid came on it instantly caught my attention out of all 50 bc of how she specifically stood out, i was a huge fan of them from then on. also back then it was way less common for idols to speak fluent english or be from somewhere directly in america (i remember she specifically was close to basically everyone else that was too, even from outside companies and kpop in general) so even that just that opened doors for it to be as normalized as it is now
Agreed. She only started gaining traction because of her association and promotion of LGB in her music and music video. Its not great music. She used contriversy to promote her releases
I presume Amber made her judgement "in general" and not as detailing the guy being black. If that guy eating sandwich was a white person, then it was just the same thing. Those stupid comments were plain egoistic, selfish, and childish acts. No one can be better if we stick to hatred and don't know how to forgive. If you don't like to forgive then forget. As long as you see they apologize and don't repeat it then that's it. THOSE WHO POSTED NONSENSE COMMENTS WERE EVEN THE WORSE ONES.
I think the matter of the passenger who ate at the station could have been handled by the staff and instead of escalating by involving cops. No eating isn't something racial, it's just prohibited to all passengers. When someone call the cops, it's their job to look at the incident. Cops are doing their job, the caller and file complaint could be anyone or the staff. It could be the company's procedure to report to police and there is duty officers who needs to do their job. I'm sure there's a handbook or procedure on how cops handle various kinds of situation. For those who used excessive force is a part of the police force. The cops who got away from justice is the legal system that fails the people. People will focus on " darker skin pigmentation passenger got arrested over a sandwich". If people disregard the rationale, the rules in public sectors and focus on the sandwich and an African-American, of course it's better we all just shut up. The topic being brought up in the show, She honestly gave her opinion instead of saying what everyone else wants to hear over a sandwich and an African-American. The show should've just scraped the topic. Being honest and rational is called racist & hated. That's how hypocrisy is more favoured by people. What a mess she was caught up in.
I honestly wont be surprised if her haters are masking their dislike for the ambiguity surrounding her love interest by being social justice warriors who nitpicks on everything she says. 😒
People online are out of control. Someone having an opinion does not warrant such malicious hate. Who are these 'netizens' pulling this shit? THEY are the ones who need to be cancelled.
My thoughts, it’s up to the black community to forgive or not. I can’t speak for them. I hope our aim is continuous growth and educating ourselves when we were ignorant. Because constantly being under the microscope is SUFFOCATING. People messed up, learning from it, growing from it. Why do we keep holding on to past mistakes when there’s accountability and growth? Come on yallz.
From what I remember from that JKNews episode is that you’re not allowed to eat at that train station. Regardless of race, it is prosecutable as it is against their rule. But when you take into context the aggression used over that man over a sandwich?? Hell yeah it was wrong- and you KNOW it’s cuz he’s black. Amber grew up mostly in Korea so she isn’t used to the racism against black cultures in America (yes mainly in America) so what she said was not wrong out of the context of race. You should respect the rules of establishments or prepare to be confronted for it
this is why you should just keep quiet if you don't have enough knowledge on a certain topic. now her whole career is tanked because of one ignorant comment.
Her career was tanked before that. She had built her career in Kpop and when she left that genre her fans did not follow or very quickly left after her first couple songs so she was already on her way to irrelevancy trying to start over in a new genre in the US without a major label backing her.
@@comaneci_nadia Not for her career or her fiances. Her music is less popular, she plays to smaller venues and crowds, and she makes less money then when she was with SM. Good for her personally, maybe, I can't say, but being independent meant she had to pay for everything like studio time and music videos, and with her problems with her ex she burned though her money very fast, went bankrupt, I think I remember an interview where she talked about sleeping on friends couches because she didn't have a place to stay. That's probably not great for mental health. And the whole JK incident would not have happened if she had still been under SM, and if it did, it would probably have been similar to how they handled Tiffany when she posted the Japanese flag pic, pull her from public and keep her radio silent for a year, then just bring her back like nothing happened and trust everyone has moved on.
I believe amber is beautiful and very talented I like some of her music I hate the cancel culture when people honestly go and educate their selves and apologize let the first one who never made a mistake throw the first stone I've made many in my lifetime and I'm not a keyboard warrior who looks outside for condemnation but study myself hoping to improve more everyday as we all should please stop the hate we can all have differences in opinion but be mature about it
I understand wanting to call her out for her initial views but the harassment and bullying get WAY out of pocket. KPOP stans honestly bring out the fucking worst in people. Stans in general are so dangerous and they think it's okay to doxx strangers online just for criticizing their faves.
Blah blah Amber couldn't have known the racial tensions but if you said 1945 American internment camps and it didnt matter if you were Japanese or not, if you 'looked' the part the American Gestapo was throwing you in the camp. Now, do you simply comply? Do you show respect? Like...? That was only a Grand Parent ago. Amber said what they said and meant what they said when they said it😂😂😂A PR apology fr
Well not true. People treat you how you allow them. She was just young and naivete. A vulnabke person and her ex took advantage if that. I dont think being a tom boy or being a masculine women makes you susceptible to abuse/being taken advantage of.
No. She chose the wrong person to date. Don't tell me all your relationships are perfect. It happens to a lot of people. Her identity and how she presents herself has nothing to do with that. You're are an ignorant idiot that needs to grow up. She's a lot better than most people commenting here including you. She apologized already. If you can't accept it, your soul is shady and you don't deserve forgiveness when you make a mistake.
@@Splexsychiick Yeah but her being super tom boy won't help her in dating world. I don't think men want to date someone who dress like a man and act like a man. These guy she dated might just be using her. She might be better of dating woman.
I think the issue regarding to that incident from that chnnel from what I read at some comment before is that the video that was showed to her isn't complete and only a clip so she doesn't really know the whole story and she just give opinion based on what she watched and even nowadays that's some issue with social media we only see some clips and comments about it negatively or positively about it in which we really didn't know the whole truth, I think for me people are people we aren't God and we aren't even perfect so mistakes are always there and we just need to learn and make it as an experience so that we can't make the same mistake.
Pointing out that she made an insensitive comment is one thing, but that level of hate and malice is insane. Being nasty online doesn’t help people change, it just alienates and radicalizes them against you.
Trust me when i tell you all that the people who made these comment about her are way worse people that she'll ever be.
Exactly
Yup...I totally trust you on that
I like Amber. Shes talented and real. Cancel cultural is bullshit and toxic. The girl made a mistake by commenting on an explosive topic. She gave a sincere apology. Leave her alone and let her live her life.
It wasnt sincere in my opinion. From what i remember her first response wasnt good. It seems she only apologized become her money and popularity got negatively impacted. Her fans were disappointed.
it was all blown up way out of proportion bc kpop stans are absolutely insane and were already looking for any excuse to hate on a woman who isnt as femenine as the others lol and they got the perfect excuse
@@luckyclover-ld8tx That's nowhere near what happened. The hate is attributed to her ignorance and being a cop-lover 🙄
I'm always a fan of Amber & she's the one who really stood up for late Sulli when everyone else were hating on her. Srsly, best wishes for Amber, she deserved all love, flowers & hearts in this world
Agree 100%
She received the Sulli treatment. It was very sad. She even mentioned it, just be kind. The internet is f***ed up. People dont get the difference between free speech and bullying/harrasing.
Sulli did nothing wrong can’t say the same for her
@@sofypi7493 She did wrong then apologize. She was what, 24 yo? It is incredible how arrogant you must be to criticize someone as if you aaaaaall are perfect people who never make mistakes. Fyi Sulli “was wrong” to korean society, thats what they sticked for to make her quit her life. Amber was wrong to internet people, even more intransigent than korean society. So yes, she got the never deserved Sulli treatment
The sandwich thing will never make sense to me. Sign said no eating. Dude was eating. Nothing racist about enforcing the sign. Blowing up non-issues like this is why some people don't take actual race issues seriously. When you're screaming and pointing at this as being racist, some people will just be like, "Oh, these people are plain crazy. They think they should be allowed to break laws because of their race." You're sending the completely wrong message and discrediting actual race issues. Things like this are why progress is being undone.
She's got the guts to say something in front of many people, apologize when she realized how insensitive it was, and then say her thoughts on haters. That's showing guts and kudos to her.
@@suzanneraymundo5835 some public figure don’t even take accountability at all ! At least she did . At least she got the guts to tell everyone she was wrong !
For all of you judging her
A. Person who acknowledged her mistake , changed for the better . Apologize publicly admitting she was wrong and took accountability is better than y’all who are judgmental.
Where's B?
this just proves to me for the 286th time that being normal and not known public figure with no social media is the way to go for peaceful life cuz people on the internet has no empathy
I rlly rlly like her solo music. I rlly miss Fx 😢 its just not the same without them and suli, wish i can turn back time
>"the apology was not accepted." Pause.
Are you people serious? That apology is very sincere. This is not making amends. Amber genuinely didn't know that racial issues in the USA are bad and is trying to do better, be better. YES EVEN IF SHE SHOULD'VE KNOWN THAT. Why do people even ask for apologies at this point? What point is there in people improving if when once people fuck up, it's permanent and nothing can undo what they have done? "Just say you messed up " SHE DID. SHE SAID SHE MESSED UP??? I'm genuinely sick of this behavior.
Do you want people to change for a better world or do you want a dystopia where if someone says as much as one wrong word they get shot on sight? I wonder how the haters will feel when THEY mess up and are faced with the same unforgivingness from their community.
@hox6287 yeah... I'm black and I accepted her apology. When ignorant people say ignorant things then try to educate themselves... I give them the benefit of the doubt. Amber isn't black and will never understand the nuances of that existence, so she will only see the world through her lense.
This type of k-fan culture is so toxic, no one absolutely NO ONE believes in mistakes or forgiveness, they act like a person MUST be perfect and they don't make mistakes themselves. They only judge others as if they are God and superior. Very sad and annoying that's why I can't go on some of these sites like Twitter
@@HadassaMoon144 im black and i dont accept it. idgaf what she said after, how tone deaf can you be to say that about the george floyd situation. someone lost their life and thats the response you chose to give? she shoudnt have jumped to conclusions regardless if she 'didnt' understand
you can’t police the reactions of black ppl, stop trying to disregard our feelings. you’re just as bad as amber lol, matter of fact even worse
@@kenyz.hiireathwhat you said🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾 after she said what she said I never even looked for an apology because at that point you’re not trust worthy
I have always been a fan of Amber and I will continue to be that fan. The haters must have forgotten that they too are human and that they too make mistakes. We may not know about their mistakes publically, however, in one fashion or another, those haters got their karma as well.
I am black myself and follow amber liu in kpop and she never shown any racism into she made that comment and to me that wasn't racism because maybe she knew he wasn't suppose to ate a sandwhich there. she didn't make it easy when she said she was in korean for 10 years when she did go home alot but when they bring that up you got to remember she don't really have black friends just asian and white so that why the sandwhich thing didn't look racism to her and she actually trying to learn about us but people giving her sulli treat me show me that they haven't learn anything either its not like she said the n-word or said he should got beat for she just said he need to go to jail for yelling at the cop and still eating sandwich
. i guess it take alot for me to call someone racism. i hope amber is okay.
Is English your first language?
@@Noshadelovely yes but I have a speech problem sorry
@@PastelPrincess-yr3ni oh sorry, I didn’t know.
@@Noshadelovely it's okay. ☺️
There was a black lady who use to appear in her old videos. I don't know if she is/was a close friend or just a friend of a friend. I don't think that the controversy has anything to do with race, I think that Amber was mostly thinking about law and following the rules. Anyway, not enough to cancel and hate on someone, I agree that those where her old haters who just found a great opportunity to insult her, but is likely that they disliked her already, mostly for her looks.
I feel bad for Amber bc she got so much hate just bc it was during the time of “cancel culture.” As we’ve all learned by now, cancel culture doesn’t hold people accountable to their actions and is far more worst. She was right in every aspect that she took the necessary steps to educate herself and be a part of the solution meanwhile everyone dragged her. She didn’t deserve the hate. Cancel culture is toxic and she, unfortunately got caught in it during that time. Had it been now, I don’t think people would reacted as childish and it wouldn’t had affected her as much.
You arent looing at the whole picture and how much harm her ignorance caused. She was one of many bashing or speaking out against the sandwhich eating guy he would have faced harsher punishment if more people didnt speak out on his behalf. Its insane that eating a sandwhich became an international issue. It never should have been so...but it was. It wasnt just "cancel culture" she told the people....her fans to unfollow her. She cancelled herself by her bad response. She should have spoken towards her fans.
@@Splexsychiick I don’t think the point was that he was “just eating a sandwich” the point was that no food or drinks are allowed and he chose to eat at that location anyway. It’s showing no respect for the rules and for the people around him. There’s a legitimate reason why no food or drinks are allowed in the subway. Police were trying to enforce the rules
It said no drink or food was allowed, but the guy ignored that and kept eating and when police talk to him about it, he acted as if the police were in the wrong?
Ikr? The man who ate in the subway is the wrong one
Blacks think rules don't apply to them.
@@comaneci_nadia Yes, he was in the wrong for not wanted to follow the rule. We have rules for a reason and some people don't want to follow it. They think they above the law and would use their race or colour of skin as a card to get out of trouble that they created. It's crazy!
cancelling culture is actually very needed especially in this modern world. i wish the people in my country would adapt and embrace this cancel culture, because it pains us to see deranged and immoral people getting excessive and immense attention all over the place and enjoy the money they milk from it. the world need to get better. peace from Indonesia
This girl just seems to make bad choices in life.
I didn't like her very much, because she really isn't a good role model, but now, seeing all the hate she received, because of an OPINION, I can certainly respect her a little. And she shouldn't have apologized.
Thought that was jungkook for a hot minute
Is it an unpopular opinion that the only reason people hated sohard is because shes a woman. If she was a man I feel people would have forgave and move on.
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Thats a crazy take. Her gender was not the reason for the hate ....
Some of you wake up in the world just saying anything 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@Splexsychiick i don't think you understand what she commented tho
@evermindnever1what did she comment
Her solo career would have blown up and no one would have cared about her remarks (that she apologized for) IF she was a Man, and even IF she had even done much worse ......... PLUS people's scrutiny towards her would also have been less harsher if she had adhered to the conventional beauty standards for female artists and had incorporated sex and objectification to sell out her music
Thats not true. Her gender isnt the reasons. Men and women during that time recieved hate for bad takes.
You really have your head in the sand, don't you?
this just hit me with a huge wave of nostalgia :') i used to have a stan twt acc for amber for a couple years since she was my ult bias but as i got older and f(x)'s activities slowly started dying out, i kinda lost interest :( i sort of remember when the whole controversy was going on tho and just not engaging, just hoping she was okay mentally esp since sulli was also a victim of netz's and we lost her, RIP :/ back then all kinds of fandoms/stans were using the " # ____ is over party" for the dumbest things so when something was actually serious it was frustrating that ppl decided to not actually care abt an issue but join the bandwagon as a joke and or take it to the extreme without any intentions to actually listen to someone wanting to correct their mistake.
lil unrelated but ill never forget when my random comment made it on one of her videos on her whatthepineaple yt channel, it was YEARS ago now and i dont think the video is up anymore but i will still never change my icon or name on here bc if it. it truly made my entire life at that point in time LOL, to this day prob the coolest interaction ive had with an idol
Next content would be all the support to Amber. How one falls and ignore bashes and hates. All celebrities go through things like this. Keep fighting Amber.
Simping for cops is not a good look, but I get that she has been living in a repressed country for a long time.
2:37 the TH-camrs set her up. As of today, that channel isn’t what it used to be.
Let’s not generalize and stereotype
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Do you believe in magic?
Yeah, it is not real. Just like the hypothetical chance that Amber is just an innocent girl who lived in the jungle and knows nothing about societal norms. Especially if we are talking U.S. "norms"
She lived there long enough to understand racism, colorism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Stop giving Asians a break. They ARE (obviously) smarter than you.
Next time something happens to you, you better not be calling 911 for help. I mean not for ANYTHING. You people who want to disrespect cops so much have no right to beg for help when in an emergency and your life is at stake.
@@alexandriasalazar8522are you ok? You need to calm down. You're so mad when the cops were literally in the wrong. "You people..." I'm smelling racism behind that comment. You're so worked up over something that happened years ago. Please get a hobby.
I know I am not black but common
She is a human too . She made a mistake . She educated herself , she changed for the better and stand up for Black Lives Matter !
People are humans ! They make mistakes ! Let them learn dang it !
She didnt change for the better....she just realized its better to keep her controversial opinions to herself and not on the internet.
@ didn’t she protested with Black Lives Matter ?
A person being ignorant of a situation she doesn't have the right to speak on, isn't a simple "mistake"
@@heavenlykai6839 yeah what she did was bad . She shouldn’t talk about it .but she realized that what she did was wrong , so she changed . And protest for Black Lives Matter
Isn’t that what people suppose to do ? Realize what they did was wrong and change ?
People need to stop putting kpop idols on a high pedestal. I’m sure there’s more who think the way she does, especially knowing that Korea’s a conservative country. She atleast educated herself.
Why after five years people still talk about this thing. Does that mean she did everything excellent all other years ? The repeated reference hilarious.😅anyone pass by welcome to listen to ambers new song Dusk Till Dawn. You’ll get amazed 🫶🏻hope everyone happy and feel loved despite the video
this, though. imagine the flop of missing a banger like "Dusk 'Till Dawn". (/lh) what is even this? she's making music and to me she's doing it well.
cause they can't move on from hate and cancelling idols taking the rest of their life ...let support Amber as we do...that hilarious some even concerned she couldn't make enough money while her DTD still banger and she doing so well nowadays.
WHEW, these comments ARE NOT passing the vibe check 🙄🙄🙄😔
It's a kpop channel with comments from people whose whole personality is kpop, living vicariously through the internet. Of course it won't pass the vibe check.
@@RandalReid that honestly kind of explain it. Where is the nuance? Do these people consume something else that has more depth than drama channel? I apologise if that was quite rude, but if some people really do hinge their personalities on K-pop and living vicariously through the internet (K-pop netizen vibes, honestly...), ... it's just not healthy, I personally think.
Seriously...???? She is doing so well in China... She will come to Kpop with her group again.
i needed ts video
WHAT??? Chinese celebrities always do these brand livestreams a lot? Even Vic does it.
Also. That video, was almost like a setup. They shouldn't have uploaded that knowing how bad cancel culture was during that time. Her being a woman and a tomboy made the hate even worst. It was one ignorant mistake and she til now is being called a racist when she told over and over again that she isn,'t and trying to educate herself more and apologizing repeatedly. While there are SO MANY TOO MANY male celebrities that have done criminal things but they don't have the same energy for those scumbags, they even get back to limelight and is being celebrated. While that group was playing the video, she wasn't even looking at the screen. She didn't even seem to know the guy was POC. In the complete video, she told that she once had to follow rules made by an authority in a club. But after a while in the same evening, she ended up still not following the rules and laughed. Like telling, it's okay. But if there are authorities around better not get their attention to you. She just didn't word them right because she thought those ytbers were her friends and it was safe.
She even was there at the protests for Floyd. This girl while she was still in Korea, yearly goes to the remote and poor places in Korea to bring and carry coals to the mountains so that the people there would not feel too cold during winter.
Her Chinese debut wasn't bad, she even had concert tours. She has solid fans and despite her not being as popular anymore in the west or in Korea, she's still well-loved by her people. I think she learned to not care about the haters. I hope she's doing well now. She and her members have gone thru so much to deserve getting this much hate. One life lost is not enough for people. She's even one of the most that are more vulnerable to it losing her friend due to hate and witchhunt. I hope she stays strong. Thanking everyday that she has a very supportive family who never leave her behind.
Also great video Gumi!
Thank you so much ❤️
So true. Couldn't have said it better.
I need to see the video of the interraction first.
As a fan of f(x) while they were still active, who listened to and enjoyed most of her solo and duet projects from Borders to Shake that Brass to Wave and Heartbeat, watched a lot of her reality and variety show content, TH-cam content, I think I even checked out her acting debut in Entourage I think it was. The thing is, when she left SM and wanted to take creative control and write her own songs, they were such a genre change I gave up after a few releases as it wasn't the style that I had enjoyed listing to from her for years. I know she wanted to do something else, more power to her, I didn't want to hear it. And on top of that she wasn't doing any major reality or variety shows to showcase her personality. I think that's why she wanted to do more TH-cam, What the Pineapple had done well, but she didn't have the same level of support or structure backing her up and managing her. To think, if she stayed with SM she'd still be getting a single or two a year, some acting here or there, variety show gigs, and endorsements, they'd probably still be paying for an official F(X) dorm she could stay in for free, but she wanted control and independence.
What the Pineapple was my favorite channel to watch back in the day, and its pretty ironic that both Amber and Scott turned out to be awful people. I also really liked Amber but after her comments about the black guy and police officer, I was done with her
What's with it. I though people side with her.
And plus y'all act as if black cops didn't exist lol
@0403s No shit Sherlock. I know black cops exist. But if people stand by her, then that's their prerogative. But she had no right to speak about the unfair violence that my people face every single day. Being scared that myself, my family or even my friends who are also black could be killed by cops shouldn't even be in the back of my mind but that's the world we live in. Yes there are good cops but the corrupt ones overshadow the good ones
Black people killed black people more than white these days yet y'all don't want to make a fuss about it. Y'all act as if yall are the only one oppressed 😂i experience racism among black people more as an black Asian yet I don't scream racism on everyone's face. People start to forget the privileges they have and take it for granted and then scream racism just because someone's statement doesn't fit your narrative.
@0403s Ain't no one has said that wtf
Best wishes to Amber Liu, forever
I know sometimes sensitive topics make people respond in ways that they usually wouldn't but some people take it way too far. You can educate someone without being so mean. I believe she understood what was wrong once it was explained to her and I think she educated herself further to better understand certain issues. People need to know when to stop. The people who drag these things out aren't even offended by what she said, they're just filled with hate and use it as an excuse to attack her. I'm also tired of non-black fans who use issues that affect us for their fan wars. Don't pretend to be offended because you see it as a free pass to hate on idols you don't like. They change their tune as soon as someone they like does something offensive. We all just need to remember that idols are human. Speak to them properly and more people may be willing to listen and learn
Ex boyfriends?! 🤨
She did have a bf in the past but it is her personal stuff, so she had no need to expose him to the public
Yep. She is straight.
Well, she didnt got into kpop for her talent or beauty... she got on kpop for her tomboy looks and that work on the context of the group. Now there isnt a talent she can relay on... i dont think this is result of cancelation is just that her talent is really below avarage compare to other idols. Even before this cancelation her projects never call the public attention.
I like her, she's talented and lovable and smart. But one thing more that's disappointing to me is she says many time that she's "Chinese" or her root is China (to please the merket there), when actually she was born in LA as an American and both her parents are from TAIWAN.
Well, she may again argue that she's not in the know of the tension and controversy between China and Taiwan. And it's true that China embraces her because she's like a poster figure embodying "internationality" and "openness" for a dictative communist country.
her solo music is mid at best and her greatest achievement is being fx’s filler member. that’s why no one cares she fell off
I was really young when fx debuted and she was the reason that made me remembered fx 😂 Back then girl idols look very similar to each other so her tomboyish style stood out to me.
@@zippiizhappy Before forced representation/inclusivity was a thing in the West, Lee Sooman is way ahead in using gender and body size as gimmicks.
@@zippiizhappy same! i remember watching a top 50 girl group ranking back in like 2012 not knowing really anything about kpop besides bigbang and when f(x) vid came on it instantly caught my attention out of all 50 bc of how she specifically stood out, i was a huge fan of them from then on. also back then it was way less common for idols to speak fluent english or be from somewhere directly in america (i remember she specifically was close to basically everyone else that was too, even from outside companies and kpop in general) so even that just that opened doors for it to be as normalized as it is now
Agreed. She only started gaining traction because of her association and promotion of LGB in her music and music video. Its not great music. She used contriversy to promote her releases
I presume Amber made her judgement "in general" and not as detailing the guy being black. If that guy eating sandwich was a white person, then it was just the same thing. Those stupid comments were plain egoistic, selfish, and childish acts. No one can be better if we stick to hatred and don't know how to forgive. If you don't like to forgive then forget. As long as you see they apologize and don't repeat it then that's it.
THOSE WHO POSTED NONSENSE COMMENTS WERE EVEN THE WORSE ONES.
I think the matter of the passenger who ate at the station could have been handled by the staff and instead of escalating by involving cops. No eating isn't something racial, it's just prohibited to all passengers. When someone call the cops, it's their job to look at the incident. Cops are doing their job, the caller and file complaint could be anyone or the staff. It could be the company's procedure to report to police and there is duty officers who needs to do their job. I'm sure there's a handbook or procedure on how cops handle various kinds of situation. For those who used excessive force is a part of the police force. The cops who got away from justice is the legal system that fails the people. People will focus on " darker skin pigmentation passenger got arrested over a sandwich". If people disregard the rationale, the rules in public sectors and focus on the sandwich and an African-American, of course it's better we all just shut up. The topic being brought up in the show, She honestly gave her opinion instead of saying what everyone else wants to hear over a sandwich and an African-American. The show should've just scraped the topic. Being honest and rational is called racist & hated. That's how hypocrisy is more favoured by people. What a mess she was caught up in.
I honestly wont be surprised if her haters are masking their dislike for the ambiguity surrounding her love interest by being social justice warriors who nitpicks on everything she says. 😒
People online are out of control. Someone having an opinion does not warrant such malicious hate. Who are these 'netizens' pulling this shit? THEY are the ones who need to be cancelled.
My thoughts, it’s up to the black community to forgive or not. I can’t speak for them. I hope our aim is continuous growth and educating ourselves when we were ignorant. Because constantly being under the microscope is SUFFOCATING. People messed up, learning from it, growing from it. Why do we keep holding on to past mistakes when there’s accountability and growth? Come on yallz.
How about the 'black community' stop being so sensitive and entitled?
@@skillbopsterwym what she was messed up
From what I remember from that JKNews episode is that you’re not allowed to eat at that train station. Regardless of race, it is prosecutable as it is against their rule. But when you take into context the aggression used over that man over a sandwich?? Hell yeah it was wrong- and you KNOW it’s cuz he’s black. Amber grew up mostly in Korea so she isn’t used to the racism against black cultures in America (yes mainly in America) so what she said was not wrong out of the context of race. You should respect the rules of establishments or prepare to be confronted for it
I Love Amber!
this is why you should just keep quiet if you don't have enough knowledge on a certain topic. now her whole career is tanked because of one ignorant comment.
Eating at a place with "No eating/smoking" & later complaining about it when a cop asked you to stop from doing so? Lol
@@comaneci_nadia Thank you.
Her career was tanked before that. She had built her career in Kpop and when she left that genre her fans did not follow or very quickly left after her first couple songs so she was already on her way to irrelevancy trying to start over in a new genre in the US without a major label backing her.
@@bunch1 She's a freelancer now & not tied to SM Ent & that's good
@@comaneci_nadia Not for her career or her fiances. Her music is less popular, she plays to smaller venues and crowds, and she makes less money then when she was with SM. Good for her personally, maybe, I can't say, but being independent meant she had to pay for everything like studio time and music videos, and with her problems with her ex she burned though her money very fast, went bankrupt, I think I remember an interview where she talked about sleeping on friends couches because she didn't have a place to stay. That's probably not great for mental health. And the whole JK incident would not have happened if she had still been under SM, and if it did, it would probably have been similar to how they handled Tiffany when she posted the Japanese flag pic, pull her from public and keep her radio silent for a year, then just bring her back like nothing happened and trust everyone has moved on.
I believe amber is beautiful and very talented I like some of her music I hate the cancel culture when people honestly go and educate their selves and apologize let the first one who never made a mistake throw the first stone I've made many in my lifetime and I'm not a keyboard warrior who looks outside for condemnation but study myself hoping to improve more everyday as we all should please stop the hate we can all have differences in opinion but be mature about it
Amber keep it up
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I feel like Amber has been thru enough and should be left alone. US REAL ONES LOVE YOU AMBER!!!
I understand wanting to call her out for her initial views but the harassment and bullying get WAY out of pocket. KPOP stans honestly bring out the fucking worst in people. Stans in general are so dangerous and they think it's okay to doxx strangers online just for criticizing their faves.
Blah blah Amber couldn't have known the racial tensions but if you said 1945 American internment camps and it didnt matter if you were Japanese or not, if you 'looked' the part the American Gestapo was throwing you in the camp. Now, do you simply comply? Do you show respect? Like...? That was only a Grand Parent ago. Amber said what they said and meant what they said when they said it😂😂😂A PR apology fr
No such thing as American Gestapo 😂
Nahhhh getting arrested for eating a sandwich is crazy work 😂
Eating at a place with "No eating/smoking" sign & then complaining that a cop arrested the person who went against the rule? That's a mess lol
@ nah a warning or a ticket makes more sense 👌🏼
@@Youngch7 Amber is silent rn & a person like you are still hating on her literally non stop lol
He was given multiple chances but refused.
Yeah has she gone crazy?
This is what happens to LGBT
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Why?
@@gumihoi cause I like your vids {you don't have to}
@ thank you so much ❤️ sorry I was just confused 😂☺️
@@gumihoi its okay lol
Sad that she hasn't found a good man yet.
She's fine with or without a man, chill out
Amber act like a guy so of course the guy she dates going to treat her like one.
Well not true. People treat you how you allow them. She was just young and naivete. A vulnabke person and her ex took advantage if that.
I dont think being a tom boy or being a masculine women makes you susceptible to abuse/being taken advantage of.
No. She chose the wrong person to date. Don't tell me all your relationships are perfect. It happens to a lot of people. Her identity and how she presents herself has nothing to do with that. You're are an ignorant idiot that needs to grow up. She's a lot better than most people commenting here including you. She apologized already. If you can't accept it, your soul is shady and you don't deserve forgiveness when you make a mistake.
You're wrong lol, because no matter who we are, no one deserved a bad treatment
Amber acts like a guy because she's gay...not a tomboy just Gay
@@Splexsychiick Yeah but her being super tom boy won't help her in dating world. I don't think men want to date someone who dress like a man and act like a man. These guy she dated might just be using her. She might be better of dating woman.
I think the issue regarding to that incident from that chnnel from what I read at some comment before is that the video that was showed to her isn't complete and only a clip so she doesn't really know the whole story and she just give opinion based on what she watched and even nowadays that's some issue with social media we only see some clips and comments about it negatively or positively about it in which we really didn't know the whole truth, I think for me people are people we aren't God and we aren't even perfect so mistakes are always there and we just need to learn and make it as an experience so that we can't make the same mistake.