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ed i love ur vids but i dont think that ad was properly disclosed, you never verbally said ad or sponsored and it was never written on the screen or in the description
I hope some people can companies scouting for trainees see there talent and ask for them to join their companies after seeing their potential, cause this ain’t fair 😭
Maybe it's better that the good contestants aren't in that group. This group will get destroyed by the audiences. They'll become the next big laugh in the industry, and I can't even get mad at that fact.
I think the live stream aspect could be really cool and engaging if it wasn't so amateur. There should be a balance between overproduced and not produced at all.
I feel like it would've been criticized if it was still on TikTok though. Maybe having an official site or something but hearing it's on TikTok will make most if not all people immediately think it's bad before giving it a chance even if it's really good
@@prisonerschains fair enough. I just feel bad for the actual trainees that participated, they never had a chance because of how poorly this was set up.
I looked to the kwiki and the pics are nice. Everything actually looks high quality, and the contestants are picked much better than say...Universe Ticket (take notes not putting 12 year olds in it)😳. Also aren't big producers behind it? Makestar produced it. I hope the debut gets a budget bc the attention is there. I just think it would be sad for the members who have been through nugudom hell
What a joke. The people voting in these survival shows will vote for pretty trainees despite their lack of skills, ignoring talented ones, then cry why they receive hate from other kpop fans when they can't give decent performances. I can name many contestants through out the years in different survival shows who had pretty privilege, them ranking higher than more talented ones is not uncommon sadly.
I only started the video, so I don't know if he covers that, but most of the votes came from blank accounts that likely were done by the company itself to push Kelly. There were never more than 80 people donating before those blank accounts came in and massvoted for Kelly.
omg anytime a contestant admit to never singing/dancing before baffles me. unfortunately that’s how the entertainment industry works… they cater to what ppl want which is eye candy.
i’m glad you covered the part where the hate from k-pop fans to kelly have been so brutal. i’ve seen so many people dehumanize her and called her “it” like she isnt a real person. you can criticize her for her talent, but to pretend that’s not a real person you’re saying all this nasty stuff about is sad.
@@goldensloth7 i think it’s not just teenagers but maybe some older adults in gen z that grew up with the internet. people are so used to be anonymous online that we’re losing the plot that behind the screen is a person, just so so sad
The MC's in the back going "wah" "her voice is so pretty??" better be getting paid big time for this shit. Also, I just realized the bottom of the google form says that it was created by Pi Corp, that one tiktok agency lol so I wouldn't be surprised if the whole show was just made to push Kelly who is under them 👽 Also kinda explains the budget and the way it's "aired" on tiktok
The sister of 2 already astablished K-pop idols was an idol herself and in a group at one point before going solo and became an influencer. Her group ended up disbanding about a year later cause the group wasn't really active.
It's the people's fault. Support artists that can perform, sing and took years to perfect their craft. NMIXX, Dreamcatcher, Red Velvet, XG, BADVILLAIN (+ Young Posse, they're great but a little young. Hopefully DSP treats them right)
One thing I will say is Lea may be Kai and Bahiyyih's sister but she was also an idol before either of them were, she just wasn't in as big of a group as TXT or Kep1er. (still unfair but I don't think her siblings have to do with that twt)
She may have been in a group before them but it failed. I'm not saying she's not a good singer or dancer, it's just there's a reason why that was the case. From what she's giving, it's not good. That ATP performance was crazy😅 she could still turn it around in her favor though. But why go on a TikTok show which people are gonna think is an automatic joke, and then expect people to take you seriously?
@@0.0dotssometimes groups fail due to no fault of their own. Maybe there was an issue with the company. That doesn't take away from the group's talent. The fact that she was able to debut in a group in the 1st place says a lot. Especially when you know how hard the trainee process can be
@justSunny7 that's true but the same could be said about other things. I don't personally know though and Im sure she is talented. The fact that she even debuted like you said means something but yeah again I don't know. I would classify a nepotism baby as something different tho
@@0.0dots boy do I have to say a lot about why groups flop...a lot of mid-tier groups are much better than what some companies push nowadays. It's just money, that's it. I can count on one hand the groups that made it like that. In all of kpop history. Also yes it kinda matters that she was an idol first when she gets unnecessary hate, and the nepotism isn't even a thing bc no one here knows she's their sister. Like no one. Only when people knew they hated.
@@K_8T singing is anything that has an attempt of a melody... even bad singing or off note is still singing, but being CAPABLE of singing is different from being ABLE to sing. Anyone can open their mouth and sing, but not everyone is capable. if you sing on key but your vocal quality, flow and skill is on the floor, then sorry but you can't sing. you're just barely hanging on
In all fairness there are a lot of actual kpop idols who can’t sing better than this live either, and usually just lip sync, or get very few lines in song, or just given rap parts (they often don’t even write themselves) etc. So I think it’s kinda understandable why they might think they can make it just from looks/dance skills/general charisma alone. Plenty people have done it after all
@@camelliasinensis219 this is why I can’t get into kpop, except for 2ne1. The song is trendy and the dancing is good, but it felt more like the agency and marketing are more geared towards their charisma and look. I guess that is why they are idol. But I have face blindness so this doesn’t faze me lol. I’m more attracted to the vocal aspects of the entertainer. It shouldn’t be surprising that kpop lip sync live tho because they have to dance too. And most of the fans are scary because I felt like they have this para-relationship with their bias/idol or something. It brought about greed and jealousy. Majority of them aren’t music fans! They are there for their idols face.
when Edvasian said she's super popular I thought "why tho? her face bothers me so much". And seeing that her popularity is based on looks I get it even less. She has a joker smile and a very weird face shape. I do not get it, but good for her I guess
That's the thing. Most of you guys MADE her win by focusing on her, making viral comments and tiktoks about her, etc. No one even knew the other contestants because all anyone ever talked about was Kelly. Obviously she needs a lot more practice, that's clear. But y'all need to stop giving these people you hate all this attention. Positive or negative, attention is attention. It wasn't a shock she debuted. She was the only one anyone ever talked about.
I actually do and don't understand this about SK when it comes to kpop (I guess it applies to more stuff but I don't have the knowledge). I mean, it is a fact that south Koreans are obsessed with perfection but it doesn't make sense if they're only looking if one person is pretty when in their debut they're going to complain about how their voices are horrible. But SK people are obsessed with their appearance and looks. They push the image of their country is perfect and wonderful and is rotten with corruption and nepotism everywhere
The APT performance 💀 Edit: On the show an APT performance sounded interesting and got first. I think the reason is because TXT Huening Kai sister was in it.
WARNING: this is an OPINION! Please don’t come for me. I’ve been in the K-pop sphere since I was 12 and I am 28 now. I know OLDER groups before K-pop became so popular world-wide. So I know things are gonna be war, but I knew Lea before Kai and Hiyyih. Everyone is saying it’s because of Kai that Lea and Hiyyih are winning these things but Lea Debuted in Viva in 3rd generation Kai in Txt 4th and Hiyyih in Kep1er 4th gen. So it’s just a thing right now. And Yes, APT was popular because of Lea, Seonyeo, and I can’t remember the other girl, but HER VOICE WAS AMAZING! Not kelly.
My guess is they're not gonna be an idol /idol/. I think they're going to be a group who releases half-assed music on youtube and doing live on tiktok. It's very unlikely to have them do any music shows or have interviews with press and media. Their public appearance will be very minimal i think. I doubt they will ever release an ep or even an album. They will only be a social media idol group, so their lack of rosters with actual talent problem won't give them much troubles
@@sunb5738 BigBang is NOT back. Seungri will forever be labeled a toxic s-x pest & won't ever be back in the group & T.O.P said sayonara. 3 out of 5 members does not BigBang make.
13:33 Exactly what I’m saying! Is she supposed to just deny their existence and her relation to them because she wants to redebut 😭. She was the first in her family to debut and just wanted a second chance.
sure but if people are going to send kelly hate for her pretty privilege, then leah certainly has nepo privilege. she’s easily the least skilled of her family.
@@horizonkyun7203 Bahiyyih also experienced nepotism with GP999. None of these girls should receive hate for things out of their control. It's a weird gray area if anything.
@@horizonkyun7203 she works as a model now. obviously she wouldnt have been practicing her singing and dancing as much as full time idols when she herself has a separate full time job
@@horizonkyun7203 That’s quite rude. I understand that Lea is a bit rusty but give her some time. Like Cupid said she hadn’t practiced in a while due to her having a full time job as a model/influencer. She fully committed to a new life (went to college and got a degree in acting, and even worked in a cafe at one point). She thought she would never debut again because of her age but when she saw an opportunity she decided to take it and I don’t blame her.
Tbh the hate is kind of crazy, but a huge part of the vitriol is that the content house Kelly was in is owned by the company holding this survival program in the first place. It's rigged for her to make it into the final lineup no matter what, and that's what has people so upset.
that kelly girl genuinely should have never applied for this ... like imagine subjecting yourself to the eyes of vicious kpop stans the company set her up fr like ik damn well they're not gonna protect her beyond turning off tiktok comments lol
Um, why not? She's pretty as hell and K-Pop is now a really shallow industry largely based on looks, just like South Korea in general. This is what happens. You act like idols who have it all don't get hate as well? It's literally part of being an idol. Also, hate never seems so bad when you remember it's mostly teenagers and obsessive weirdos giving it out.
@@ZariaTudor1same. I also hate how toxic people online are misusing the word nepotism. Like the huening family never owned the industry and put lea there to debut automatically🤦🏻♀️ I do feel bad because I really like her as an artist and she is talented
I think people only voted for the person who will give them more entertainment, not talent. There's a lot of trolls on the internet who are willing to pay to see a clown perform. That's why Kelly won.
I passed the “audition” for it and they sent me a DM saying I got accepted, but I saw the DM too late. Thank God I didn’t end up possibly (even tho I prob wouldn’t have anyway) gotten accepted and do this show it is a mess, which I kind of thought it would be I had second thoughts and I was right 😭
One of the girl in the show is someone I know from college, she is so freaking talented but was not in spotlight and had many issues with microphones and other stuff. I hope she can debut with a better survival show
I am 25 years old, and I recently watched a 13-year-old get chosen as an INDIAN PREMIER LEAGUE cricket player for the national team! I didn't feel bad for myself because the KID IS DAMN GOOD!!
some 20 years ago I visited my brother in a different city and there happened to be an audition for one of these shows so I went to see what it's really like and...boy was it eye opening like we sang in front of cable guys and other staff, there were no cameras, you'd have to go through 1-3 rounds to even be allowed to sing in front of the real (TV) judges I had to sign a form that said they could use any footage of me however they liked and I wouldn't be able to sue them
I am HOWLING. The performances you showed were basically the ol' American Idol cringe reel. On the other hand, as someone who enjoys seeing legitimately talented people succeed, it's pretty depressing to see people who objectively cannot sing win a contest like this - even if the contest is a bit of a joke.
i understand why the girls joined this 'reality show'. they're all adults and we all know how kpop companies are about that, i just wish it wasn't such a joke.
Back in 2017, I recall seeing Eli Kim (U-Kiss) on a season of Mr. House Husband. It was quite eye opening, how brutal the kpop industry is in regards to their family life. Of course, the label sAiD that his marriage & family wouldn't affect his job, but.......
They can kiss their dream goodbye. No offense. Time passed, kpop survival shows are getting tough, in the real debut environment though, even groups from big companies struggles nowadays
my theory is that they won't be idols in the traditional sense of the word with award shows and performances, but will just post mediocre songs on yt once in a while and do a tiktok live occasionally. cause ain't no way
Just last night I was thinking about how overly produced Korean TH-cam content seems to be, with all the 5 cameras, 3 PDs, intense editing, elaborate sets, etc. This is what happens when they have none of that.
The Philippines attempted something similar with Beyond Zero. A PPOP boy group made up of TikTokers. When they debuted, they were dragged for not singing live and for their dancing being out of sync and lacking energy. It turns out, that 30 second dances on TikTok did not translate well to doing a whole song. Their singing was also below "the Filipino standard". It was considered idol-level. The company put a lot of money and hype into their promotion, but once the people saw the product, they lost interest.
How to become a K-Pop idol in 2015: 1. Practice hours a day before auditioning that you will get more skills. 2. Audition to an agency and only most talented ppl will get in. 3. Congrats! You got in! Now practice +10 hours a day, so you will become even more talented. 4. After 5 years you have a chance to debut. 5. Congrats! You are now a K-Pop idol! How to become a K-Pop idol in 2024: 1. Be cute. 2. Start posting Tiktok where you lipsync, "dance" and act cute. 3. Congrats! You have now 5 million followers! 4. Audition to a rigged survival show. 5. Congrats! You are now a K-Pop idol!
I gotta give praise to Edvasian for making enjoyable commentary videos 🙂↕️ Not too long and not filled with unnecessary annoying editing + good phasing with jokes vs. info. Good job!
what i learned from this video (jk) 1. have barely any stage talent whatsoever (but be pretty) 2. become a tiktoker 3. do a stupid dance and go viral 4. fly to korea 5. go on a survival show (preferably a rigged one that only cares about tiktokers and pretty people) 6. perform (badly) 7. win 🏆 (extra step to make you even more guaranteed to become an idol: be very young (preferably the age that appeals to drake))
Oh this definitely is a cash thing for the company. They did not do anything. Just got the money from this. I am sure the group dont even debut or they debut and disband soon after.
9:14 THIS PD48 gets a lot hate for obvious reasons, but those reasons aside it was an AMAZING show and Iz*One was really an excellent group. When you considered Kep1er really struggled until the redebuted and gp999 had such low ratings…if you play devils advocate it’s probably because PD48 was so scripted.
The sad part is that so many of the girls in the show were so talented. Also, the girls only had a total of maybe 2 days to practice each performance and some weeks had multiple performances a week....
This entire production was such a bummer because we finally got an age range that made sense and it being connected to this mess will probably be what companies and other shows use to justify why they keep getting younger and younger
most of the issues ppl have with this are the same issues that plague high production value shows: trainees coming in with pre established fanbases, having connections to celebrities, ppl being favored by viewers for looks over talent, etc. The biggest difference is shows like pd101 have the budget, resources, and professional staff to execute it better
“how someone broke all their legs” had me laughing so hard. I’m picturing a K-pop hopeful with six broken legs, lying on the ground like a crumpled insect, being told very dramatically that she will never dance again.
I'll be very honest, I have not watched your videos for such a long time and you look amazing. The long hair you had to now how you style it is amazing. Kept subscribed to you and I am just happy and proud of you!
13:34 I'm a moa and i can say she can be appreciated, I respect her identity. Those need to know she has her own talent and that does not mean hueningkai and her sister is an excuse to why she is doing great out there.
I remember seeing ppl so hyped for this show when they saw ex-idols on the list of participants and no kids anywhere in sight. And then it started airing and everyone suddenly fell quiet... Seeing the line-up vs their performances and how this thing looked in general I am no longer suprised why I heard nothing until it finished.
as an unconventionally attractive person, an evil part of me is rly smug abt the fact that a lot of these hot people are bad at singing and im not afraid to say that
I just remember something. If you know SB19, you know this story. There was a group formed who are mostly influencers and tiktokers. In the same day in their debut (on stage) as well as their cringy and awful prescon, they didn't last long. I forgot whats the name of the group but I dont careless to search it.
What am trying to say is, if they rely on the popularity on social media without training by the professionals especially dedication and down to earth attitude, they will not have the popularity/recognition they wanted. Unlike SB19, they practice 1000x to perfect their dances ang songs
I'm so glad you bought up how unnecessarily harsh kpop fans can be. I feel like every month or so, there's a new target (usually female) on my instagram FYP and people writing really vile things about them. Kelly is no exception. Like, what did she do that was so offensive exactly? Participate in a survival show? Considering how there are some really dreadful things going on in the kpop industry right now, it astounds me that some people seem to have more hatred for certain idols than they do for actual criminals. Side note: I feel like instagram in particular has this issue compared to other social media sites- I have my own theory about how it's algorithm deliberately promotes inflammatory/hateful content because that's what gets people engaged and spending more time on the app but that's a whole other conversation...
i think it's because she's already 24 and even though there's nothing wrong with that, actual ent companies unfortunately see any age above 19 'too old' to debut. they won't scout her
It was rigged. at the last, like 30 seconds, this j person gave over $8k gifts to Kelly. it was very sus. they had no picture, no bio, 1 follower, and 1 following. This was 💯 percent an account created by her company because she was losing badly. Her company also created timeturner, so this all make sense
For me it's TVXQ (DB5K songs mostly). I revisited most of the 2nd gen groups I used to listen when I was younger and of course I was curious of how new gen kpop songs are now. Tbh, I find them quite lacking in vocals and the songs are almost sounding the same. I can agree that they look cute and handsome but I prefer men who look like Taecyeon 2PM and U-know TVXQ😂. I find most new male idols look too pale and more feminine. Of course not every new gen kpop groups are bad but I prefer when idols can sing slow songs and can unleash their vocal potentials. But if someone prefer the new gen music, I don't mind. I guess I'm just getting older lmao
I am sorry, as a 2nd gen fan this is hilarious because the drama the kids have nowadays is such bs compared to what we used to have, and to name GD out of all people to highlight current drama is hilarious, he had serious drama until like a few months ago what with the drug investigation 🤣🤣 which ended up being a bunch of nothing, just like the silly new gen drama most times 🤣 No hate to him, he is an icon, but drama free he is not 😂
Omg… @0:40 mark --SOOOO RELATABLE!!!! I graduated in 07, but I really got into the real world during the Vegas season, and also the Cancun one… I remember always thinking how cool it would be to be on one of those shows. I literally would convince myself I was going to be on one rather it was the real world, or the challenge SMH goodness, you couldn’t pay me enough money to be in that small of a setting with that many people for that long anymore oh heck no
Kelly suddenly started appearing ALL over my insta, and i kept getting more and more annoyed with her facial expressions....so forced, so cringey, trying to be so cute, and it KILLS me...don't even get me STARTED on her singing my god Look I know she's trying but my god I literally blocked her because I was so tired of seeing it
Bro the amount of hate Kelly is getting is horrible. Now people are switching up because she has a lisp but even if she didn’t, what tf did she do to yall? Blame the producers, not the idol. If anything happens to her everyone’s going to switch up and say stuff like “we should’ve protected her” or smth smh.
Not a comment about the vid, but about your ad! Ive seen some youtube vids getting sponsored by fashion chingu, which makes me skeptical if their stuff is even good. However you modelling the products made me wanna buy something from there now 😂
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ed i love ur vids but i dont think that ad was properly disclosed, you never verbally said ad or sponsored and it was never written on the screen or in the description
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this was quite literally made with 5 dollars, an iPhone and a dream 😭
I wonder how Leah feels, she is a dozen and is only debuting because she is related to bahyiyh and kai 💀
@@mariasol1545bruh she was literally the first sibling to debut among them in group called viva but they disbanded due to some reason
Yeah Leah was an idol 1st
@@akanksha8305 does it even matter she flops everywhere she goes
do you know where to see the clip of the girl who sung "when i was your man"?
A kpop group being formed through tiktok, I've officially seen it all.
voted through google forms as well😭
I did too😭😭👍🏾@@zurathejoi
GOOGLE FORMS!?!?😭
IM CRYINGG
@@zurathejoiNO WAYY 😭😭 the pits fr
its the way i checked my wifi when the tt live started lagging 😭😭
I was already having issues earlier in the video, I almost threw in the towel 😭
I mean, same 😅
FELT
Me too 😂
right after he mentioned bad wifi connection. brain damage girlies 💜
"her voice is so pretty" brother her voice is going 📈📉📉📉📈📈📉
@@RuthMel-jy7bk Need a break from the ads??
the fact that they had some decent contestants that were actually ex idols/trainees but they debuted kelly instead. the voting was so rigged
ikr?? the voters piss me off more than she does
I heard her company had made the whole show
I hope some people can companies scouting for trainees see there talent and ask for them to join their companies after seeing their potential, cause this ain’t fair 😭
Exactly
It's annoying
Maybe it's better that the good contestants aren't in that group. This group will get destroyed by the audiences. They'll become the next big laugh in the industry, and I can't even get mad at that fact.
You know what? Fuck it. I’m debuting.
rofl
Let’s all debut together 😂 I’m the maknae lmfao 😂
Good luck 🤡😬
@@ev14lynningning is the MAKNAE 💜
@@prettylittlelairsBut she ate before her Unnie’s 💜
I think "TikTok reality show" means the budget was $50 and they got $48 change
Personally I hated that the contestants that won did so only because they had more followers instead of talent
I think the live stream aspect could be really cool and engaging if it wasn't so amateur. There should be a balance between overproduced and not produced at all.
I feel like it would've been criticized if it was still on TikTok though. Maybe having an official site or something but hearing it's on TikTok will make most if not all people immediately think it's bad before giving it a chance even if it's really good
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@@prisonerschains fair enough. I just feel bad for the actual trainees that participated, they never had a chance because of how poorly this was set up.
I looked to the kwiki and the pics are nice. Everything actually looks high quality, and the contestants are picked much better than say...Universe Ticket (take notes not putting 12 year olds in it)😳. Also aren't big producers behind it? Makestar produced it. I hope the debut gets a budget bc the attention is there. I just think it would be sad for the members who have been through nugudom hell
@@prisonerschains If it were on Twitch or TH-cam it might not have been critiqued as much
What a joke. The people voting in these survival shows will vote for pretty trainees despite their lack of skills, ignoring talented ones, then cry why they receive hate from other kpop fans when they can't give decent performances. I can name many contestants through out the years in different survival shows who had pretty privilege, them ranking higher than more talented ones is not uncommon sadly.
Its basically Ice Spice all over again
Visual and Popularity 😢
I only started the video, so I don't know if he covers that, but most of the votes came from blank accounts that likely were done by the company itself to push Kelly. There were never more than 80 people donating before those blank accounts came in and massvoted for Kelly.
omg anytime a contestant admit to never singing/dancing before baffles me. unfortunately that’s how the entertainment industry works… they cater to what ppl want which is eye candy.
You just defined ILLIT situation
i’m glad you covered the part where the hate from k-pop fans to kelly have been so brutal. i’ve seen so many people dehumanize her and called her “it” like she isnt a real person. you can criticize her for her talent, but to pretend that’s not a real person you’re saying all this nasty stuff about is sad.
I appreciated that he included that part too, some kpop fans are literally acting like kelly killed their dog or smth
kpop fans terrify me. are they mostly teenagers; is that why they're so amazingly cruel? aigoo.
@@goldensloth7 The scariest part is many of the worst ones are FULL GROWN ADULTS!!
real! like yeah its cringe but its never that deep.
@@goldensloth7 i think it’s not just teenagers but maybe some older adults in gen z that grew up with the internet. people are so used to be anonymous online that we’re losing the plot that behind the screen is a person, just so so sad
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6:19 I just KNOW this girl saw all the "kpop idols being professional on stage" videos and copied it LMAOOO I CANT
LMAO 💀💀💀
I swear
that's why it looks so familiar 😂
Hg thought she was getting edited💀
@@hoonie_exe 🤣🤣🤣
The MC's in the back going "wah" "her voice is so pretty??" better be getting paid big time for this shit.
Also, I just realized the bottom of the google form says that it was created by Pi Corp, that one tiktok agency lol so I wouldn't be surprised if the whole show was just made to push Kelly who is under them 👽 Also kinda explains the budget and the way it's "aired" on tiktok
no like I 100% believe the show was made for kelly. so many vids show someone else way in the lead and then she magically gets 1000 votes? no way.
Ariana what r u doing here
was not expecting u to be here 😭😭
them just talking over every performance was so funny to me
the show was definitely made for kelly... just by the feedback she's getting online i can tell she's not good and needs improving. also lov ur vids
The sister of 2 already astablished K-pop idols was an idol herself and in a group at one point before going solo and became an influencer. Her group ended up disbanding about a year later cause the group wasn't really active.
What group?
@@cardialyn4847 VIVA
@@cardialyn4847it was called viva
@cardialyn4847 Lea Jung/Huening, Group: Viva
Also who are her siblings
ah i miss the days when artist had talent
You want talents?
XG (Xtraordinary Girls)
There are plenty of talented artists they just aren’t there
It's the people's fault. Support artists that can perform, sing and took years to perfect their craft. NMIXX, Dreamcatcher, Red Velvet, XG, BADVILLAIN
(+ Young Posse, they're great but a little young. Hopefully DSP treats them right)
@@Kp0op--PLaGiaRiSm over hyped - they have some good moments, but over all issa no.
@@silververnallbells191and their songs s0cks…
The survival show now looks like a pure rage bait
Wtf why is it blue
The way i auditioned for Time Turner but am so happy I didn't get accepted because it was kind of a mess
Dodged a bullet
Damn turned out to be their loss - do you have music or videos anywhere else if people want to support you?
girl u dodged a bullet and they lost someone who potentially has better talent than all their trainees combined 💀
we do sis, they even got the girls already selected
@@pppipes dodged a massive bullet, keep doing you
One thing I will say is Lea may be Kai and Bahiyyih's sister but she was also an idol before either of them were, she just wasn't in as big of a group as TXT or Kep1er. (still unfair but I don't think her siblings have to do with that twt)
She may have been in a group before them but it failed. I'm not saying she's not a good singer or dancer, it's just there's a reason why that was the case. From what she's giving, it's not good. That ATP performance was crazy😅 she could still turn it around in her favor though. But why go on a TikTok show which people are gonna think is an automatic joke, and then expect people to take you seriously?
@@0.0dotssometimes groups fail due to no fault of their own. Maybe there was an issue with the company. That doesn't take away from the group's talent. The fact that she was able to debut in a group in the 1st place says a lot. Especially when you know how hard the trainee process can be
@justSunny7 that's true but the same could be said about other things. I don't personally know though and Im sure she is talented. The fact that she even debuted like you said means something but yeah again I don't know. I would classify a nepotism baby as something different tho
@@0.0dots boy do I have to say a lot about why groups flop...a lot of mid-tier groups are much better than what some companies push nowadays. It's just money, that's it. I can count on one hand the groups that made it like that. In all of kpop history.
Also yes it kinda matters that she was an idol first when she gets unnecessary hate, and the nepotism isn't even a thing bc no one here knows she's their sister. Like no one. Only when people knew they hated.
Wait was that actually Lea tho
Bro she sings like every Asian girl just having fun at the karaoke. You reach the keys, doesn't mean you can sing
I can understand where you are coming from but the argument isn't....well.
Yes singing on key and note is actually singing.
@@K_8T singing is anything that has an attempt of a melody... even bad singing or off note is still singing, but being CAPABLE of singing is different from being ABLE to sing. Anyone can open their mouth and sing, but not everyone is capable. if you sing on key but your vocal quality, flow and skill is on the floor, then sorry but you can't sing. you're just barely hanging on
At least one flase note was audible and it hurt me seeing the vote meter
In all fairness there are a lot of actual kpop idols who can’t sing better than this live either, and usually just lip sync, or get very few lines in song, or just given rap parts (they often don’t even write themselves) etc. So I think it’s kinda understandable why they might think they can make it just from looks/dance skills/general charisma alone. Plenty people have done it after all
@@camelliasinensis219 this is why I can’t get into kpop, except for 2ne1. The song is trendy and the dancing is good, but it felt more like the agency and marketing are more geared towards their charisma and look. I guess that is why they are idol. But I have face blindness so this doesn’t faze me lol. I’m more attracted to the vocal aspects of the entertainer. It shouldn’t be surprising that kpop lip sync live tho because they have to dance too. And most of the fans are scary because I felt like they have this para-relationship with their bias/idol or something. It brought about greed and jealousy. Majority of them aren’t music fans! They are there for their idols face.
Girl they be TRUSTING with letting the name be picked by the audience ... They clearly don't know anything about the Internet ✋😭
I'm not saying this to be mean but....she shouldn't have won. All girlie is giving is weird facial expressions....ain't even try.
when Edvasian said she's super popular I thought "why tho? her face bothers me so much". And seeing that her popularity is based on looks I get it even less. She has a joker smile and a very weird face shape. I do not get it, but good for her I guess
@@Gr95dc she def gives off "Super cute tiktoker who only lip-syncs", not a kpop idol.
That's the thing. Most of you guys MADE her win by focusing on her, making viral comments and tiktoks about her, etc. No one even knew the other contestants because all anyone ever talked about was Kelly. Obviously she needs a lot more practice, that's clear. But y'all need to stop giving these people you hate all this attention. Positive or negative, attention is attention. It wasn't a shock she debuted. She was the only one anyone ever talked about.
I actually do and don't understand this about SK when it comes to kpop (I guess it applies to more stuff but I don't have the knowledge). I mean, it is a fact that south Koreans are obsessed with perfection but it doesn't make sense if they're only looking if one person is pretty when in their debut they're going to complain about how their voices are horrible. But SK people are obsessed with their appearance and looks. They push the image of their country is perfect and wonderful and is rotten with corruption and nepotism everywhere
@@betisbaby Facts, very well said.
The APT performance 💀
Edit: On the show an APT performance sounded interesting and got first. I think the reason is because TXT Huening Kai sister was in it.
Is there a timestamp? I didn't see it in the video 😭
@@Unbelievablyunfunny It is not in this video, but TikTok is full with the APT performance.
lyrics: apt apt apt apt apt apt apt apt apt apt apt apt apt apt apt........
WARNING: this is an OPINION! Please don’t come for me. I’ve been in the K-pop sphere since I was 12 and I am 28 now. I know OLDER groups before K-pop became so popular world-wide.
So I know things are gonna be war, but I knew Lea before Kai and Hiyyih. Everyone is saying it’s because of Kai that Lea and Hiyyih are winning these things but Lea Debuted in Viva in 3rd generation Kai in Txt 4th and Hiyyih in Kep1er 4th gen. So it’s just a thing right now. And Yes, APT was popular because of Lea, Seonyeo, and I can’t remember the other girl, but HER VOICE WAS AMAZING! Not kelly.
@@kassyaddis9337I deadas never followed txt , still don't. Knew Lea from her past group
My guess is they're not gonna be an idol /idol/. I think they're going to be a group who releases half-assed music on youtube and doing live on tiktok. It's very unlikely to have them do any music shows or have interviews with press and media. Their public appearance will be very minimal i think. I doubt they will ever release an ep or even an album. They will only be a social media idol group, so their lack of rosters with actual talent problem won't give them much troubles
For real, I can't imagine them performing at MAMA in front of BigBang for example since they're back (yaaaay🎉), it would be catastrophic 😅
@@sunb5738they flop too much to be invited to perform in music shows
@@sunb5738 BigBang is NOT back. Seungri will forever be labeled a toxic s-x pest & won't ever be back in the group & T.O.P said sayonara. 3 out of 5 members does not BigBang make.
I mean it's obvious from the budget 😂
@@silververnallbells191GD would say otherwise bcs when three of them performed, they were called BigBang so sucks on you
13:33 Exactly what I’m saying! Is she supposed to just deny their existence and her relation to them because she wants to redebut 😭. She was the first in her family to debut and just wanted a second chance.
sure but if people are going to send kelly hate for her pretty privilege, then leah certainly has nepo privilege. she’s easily the least skilled of her family.
@@horizonkyun7203 Bahiyyih also experienced nepotism with GP999. None of these girls should receive hate for things out of their control. It's a weird gray area if anything.
@@horizonkyun7203 she works as a model now. obviously she wouldnt have been practicing her singing and dancing as much as full time idols when she herself has a separate full time job
@@horizonkyun7203 That’s quite rude. I understand that Lea is a bit rusty but give her some time. Like Cupid said she hadn’t practiced in a while due to her having a full time job as a model/influencer. She fully committed to a new life (went to college and got a degree in acting, and even worked in a cafe at one point). She thought she would never debut again because of her age but when she saw an opportunity she decided to take it and I don’t blame her.
7:48 not the host having to cover up her voice cracks to save her from embarrassment 😭
Tbh the hate is kind of crazy, but a huge part of the vitriol is that the content house Kelly was in is owned by the company holding this survival program in the first place. It's rigged for her to make it into the final lineup no matter what, and that's what has people so upset.
She's annoying af tbh
that kelly girl genuinely should have never applied for this ... like imagine subjecting yourself to the eyes of vicious kpop stans
the company set her up fr like ik damn well they're not gonna protect her beyond turning off tiktok comments lol
it's called having a huge ego. when you have millions of fans/followers for being pretty and acting cute, you think you can do anything. 😂
Um, why not? She's pretty as hell and K-Pop is now a really shallow industry largely based on looks, just like South Korea in general. This is what happens. You act like idols who have it all don't get hate as well? It's literally part of being an idol.
Also, hate never seems so bad when you remember it's mostly teenagers and obsessive weirdos giving it out.
the queen never cry gave me whiplash...a man with taste i see
i love that comic
Ki sisters!!
WHIPLASH MENTIONED
beat drop with a big flash...
I had no idea Hueningkai and Bahiyyih's sister was a part of this...
Yeah, Leah is there and people have already called her a nepo baby i hate it for her because she is really talented
@@ZariaTudor1 Yeah really only the other sister is a nepo baby cuz she actually have no talent
what she do exactly @@ZariaTudor1
@@ZariaTudor1same. I also hate how toxic people online are misusing the word nepotism. Like the huening family never owned the industry and put lea there to debut automatically🤦🏻♀️ I do feel bad because I really like her as an artist and she is talented
People forget that Lea actually debut first before her siblings
Yes if she can be chosen as a kpop idol at this point they might as well as give any person chance.
they will eat them alive when they actually debut.
If they ever do 😭
I think people only voted for the person who will give them more entertainment, not talent. There's a lot of trolls on the internet who are willing to pay to see a clown perform. That's why Kelly won.
That's crazy
oh get it over it, she's pretty and K-Pop is a really shallow industry based on looks
I passed the “audition” for it and they sent me a DM saying I got accepted, but I saw the DM too late. Thank God I didn’t end up possibly (even tho I prob wouldn’t have anyway) gotten accepted and do this show it is a mess, which I kind of thought it would be I had second thoughts and I was right 😭
ur so pretty
Girl you're so gorgeous omg
Her facial expressions are so uncanny, like its actually scary
A very nice thing to say
Scary is an understatement
yet if she had significant vocal and dance talent you'd be praising her and calling her cute
I’ve beeeeen waiting for someone to talk about this
One of the girl in the show is someone I know from college, she is so freaking talented but was not in spotlight and had many issues with microphones and other stuff. I hope she can debut with a better survival show
6:17 me taking a shower, pretending I'm an idol who's having mic problems but still nailing the high notes
Bro is not an ajuma anymore! I love ur new hair!
It was ajuma, auntie 😂
@monicas2461 ok imma edit it i forgor...
The way I've seen her face everywhere and now it makes sense, it's a TikTok idol/survival thing 💀
I am 25 years old, and I recently watched a 13-year-old get chosen as an INDIAN PREMIER LEAGUE cricket player for the national team! I didn't feel bad for myself because the KID IS DAMN GOOD!!
7:35
"Calculator dipped in sprite."
I'm in TEARS! 😭
he has the same vibe till today
6:06 the girl: “i ShOuldA bOuGhT yOu flOwERs🤓🐿️🐀👉👈”
the staff: “wow her voice is so pretty 🤡”
This is how casting shows used to be before the people who sucked were filtered out before episode one, like 25 years ago
Down to the way the contestants are discussed by the audience
some 20 years ago I visited my brother in a different city and there happened to be an audition for one of these shows so I went to see what it's really like and...boy was it eye opening
like we sang in front of cable guys and other staff, there were no cameras, you'd have to go through 1-3 rounds to even be allowed to sing in front of the real (TV) judges
I had to sign a form that said they could use any footage of me however they liked and I wouldn't be able to sue them
I am HOWLING. The performances you showed were basically the ol' American Idol cringe reel. On the other hand, as someone who enjoys seeing legitimately talented people succeed, it's pretty depressing to see people who objectively cannot sing win a contest like this - even if the contest is a bit of a joke.
1:43 wifi so bad i thought my connection got disconnected
i understand why the girls joined this 'reality show'. they're all adults and we all know how kpop companies are about that, i just wish it wasn't such a joke.
im so glad you mentioned Ian lee again because i genuinely was beginning to think i imagined him existing thank god he's alive and well
Back in 2017, I recall seeing Eli Kim (U-Kiss) on a season of Mr. House Husband. It was quite eye opening, how brutal the kpop industry is in regards to their family life. Of course, the label sAiD that his marriage & family wouldn't affect his job, but.......
how can they compete and survive in the world of kpop in this kind of performance🙄
They can kiss their dream goodbye. No offense. Time passed, kpop survival shows are getting tough, in the real debut environment though, even groups from big companies struggles nowadays
my theory is that they won't be idols in the traditional sense of the word with award shows and performances, but will just post mediocre songs on yt once in a while and do a tiktok live occasionally. cause ain't no way
Just last night I was thinking about how overly produced Korean TH-cam content seems to be, with all the 5 cameras, 3 PDs, intense editing, elaborate sets, etc.
This is what happens when they have none of that.
The Philippines attempted something similar with Beyond Zero. A PPOP boy group made up of TikTokers. When they debuted, they were dragged for not singing live and for their dancing being out of sync and lacking energy. It turns out, that 30 second dances on TikTok did not translate well to doing a whole song. Their singing was also below "the Filipino standard". It was considered idol-level. The company put a lot of money and hype into their promotion, but once the people saw the product, they lost interest.
Did they even release an MV? I can't find any😅
How to become a K-Pop idol in 2015:
1. Practice hours a day before auditioning that you will get more skills.
2. Audition to an agency and only most talented ppl will get in.
3. Congrats! You got in! Now practice +10 hours a day, so you will become even more talented.
4. After 5 years you have a chance to debut.
5. Congrats! You are now a K-Pop idol!
How to become a K-Pop idol in 2024:
1. Be cute.
2. Start posting Tiktok where you lipsync, "dance" and act cute.
3. Congrats! You have now 5 million followers!
4. Audition to a rigged survival show.
5. Congrats! You are now a K-Pop idol!
Flawless transition into that ad, wow!
I just feel like Korea saw Black Mirror and was like "yes"
Kelly Kim is cringe and does unnecessary facial expressions but that doesn't mean she deserves to be hated in the internet
"is cringe and does unnecessary facial expressions" so you mean like most K-Pop idols in the history of ever?
@MetalDude-s1c yes, what's your point??
@@MetalDude-s1c 🙄
I gotta give praise to Edvasian for making enjoyable commentary videos 🙂↕️ Not too long and not filled with unnecessary annoying editing + good phasing with jokes vs. info.
Good job!
what i learned from this video (jk)
1. have barely any stage talent whatsoever (but be pretty)
2. become a tiktoker
3. do a stupid dance and go viral
4. fly to korea
5. go on a survival show (preferably a rigged one that only cares about tiktokers and pretty people)
6. perform (badly)
7. win 🏆
(extra step to make you even more guaranteed to become an idol: be very young (preferably the age that appeals to drake))
oh my god i put more effort into my shower singing than kelly kim
In pain..... So here we are
your intonation is weirdly satisfying
I LOVE the ghibli posters in the backround
Shocked you didn't mention KARA Project and the death of Ahn Sojin. These survival shows are sad.
LETS GO KELLYYYY (HOME 😇)
People are incredibly agressive about her online. But watch them act like angels if something happens to her.
Oh this definitely is a cash thing for the company. They did not do anything. Just got the money from this. I am sure the group dont even debut or they debut and disband soon after.
9:14 THIS PD48 gets a lot hate for obvious reasons, but those reasons aside it was an AMAZING show and Iz*One was really an excellent group. When you considered Kep1er really struggled until the redebuted and gp999 had such low ratings…if you play devils advocate it’s probably because PD48 was so scripted.
The sad part is that so many of the girls in the show were so talented. Also, the girls only had a total of maybe 2 days to practice each performance and some weeks had multiple performances a week....
This entire production was such a bummer because we finally got an age range that made sense and it being connected to this mess will probably be what companies and other shows use to justify why they keep getting younger and younger
who needs sleep when you've got Edvasian
most of the issues ppl have with this are the same issues that plague high production value shows: trainees coming in with pre established fanbases, having connections to celebrities, ppl being favored by viewers for looks over talent, etc. The biggest difference is shows like pd101 have the budget, resources, and professional staff to execute it better
“how someone broke all their legs” had me laughing so hard. I’m picturing a K-pop hopeful with six broken legs, lying on the ground like a crumpled insect, being told very dramatically that she will never dance again.
I'll be very honest, I have not watched your videos for such a long time and you look amazing. The long hair you had to now how you style it is amazing. Kept subscribed to you and I am just happy and proud of you!
13:34 I'm a moa and i can say she can be appreciated, I respect her identity. Those need to know she has her own talent and that does not mean hueningkai and her sister is an excuse to why she is doing great out there.
It's giving tht black mirror episode where they were on the exercise bikes and went on tht fake Americas got talent show
feels like foreshadowing to our future tbh
I remember seeing ppl so hyped for this show when they saw ex-idols on the list of participants and no kids anywhere in sight. And then it started airing and everyone suddenly fell quiet... Seeing the line-up vs their performances and how this thing looked in general I am no longer suprised why I heard nothing until it finished.
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as an unconventionally attractive person, an evil part of me is rly smug abt the fact that a lot of these hot people are bad at singing and im not afraid to say that
I just remember something. If you know SB19, you know this story. There was a group formed who are mostly influencers and tiktokers. In the same day in their debut (on stage) as well as their cringy and awful prescon, they didn't last long. I forgot whats the name of the group but I dont careless to search it.
What am trying to say is, if they rely on the popularity on social media without training by the professionals especially dedication and down to earth attitude, they will not have the popularity/recognition they wanted. Unlike SB19, they practice 1000x to perfect their dances ang songs
I think someone mentioned this, it's a group called Beyond Zero
I'm so glad you bought up how unnecessarily harsh kpop fans can be. I feel like every month or so, there's a new target (usually female) on my instagram FYP and people writing really vile things about them. Kelly is no exception. Like, what did she do that was so offensive exactly? Participate in a survival show? Considering how there are some really dreadful things going on in the kpop industry right now, it astounds me that some people seem to have more hatred for certain idols than they do for actual criminals.
Side note: I feel like instagram in particular has this issue compared to other social media sites- I have my own theory about how it's algorithm deliberately promotes inflammatory/hateful content because that's what gets people engaged and spending more time on the app but that's a whole other conversation...
They could never make me like you Kelly.
11:15 its literally like gambling machines
The ROI of this "competition" must be insane
Right I'm thinking this business model may be lucrative lol
If they can do it I can. WHO WANTS TO DEBUT WITH ME
omg hyunka sister lololol the siblings all look so alike no chance of hiding it even if we didnt already know
Interesting how a sibling of two kpop idols chose to be on a cheap show instead of trying their luck with actual ent companies.
Yea I’m kinda confused at that.
Even crazier that she was in an actual group, Viva lol
i think it's because she's already 24 and even though there's nothing wrong with that, actual ent companies unfortunately see any age above 19 'too old' to debut. they won't scout her
If anything.. it proves that she doesn’t benefit from nepotism as much as everyone always screams.. if she was, shed be on something wayyy better.
It was rigged. at the last, like 30 seconds, this j person gave over $8k gifts to Kelly. it was very sus. they had no picture, no bio, 1 follower, and 1 following. This was 💯 percent an account created by her company because she was losing badly. Her company also created timeturner, so this all make sense
edvasian never CRY 💜
GD has been dragging me back to gen 2 music and I think imma hang out there for a bit all these new groups and drama are giving me headache
same, i'm so tired of this new gen drama, it's getting annoying atp..
@ it really is and some fans online are becoming insufferable
For me it's TVXQ (DB5K songs mostly). I revisited most of the 2nd gen groups I used to listen when I was younger and of course I was curious of how new gen kpop songs are now. Tbh, I find them quite lacking in vocals and the songs are almost sounding the same. I can agree that they look cute and handsome but I prefer men who look like Taecyeon 2PM and U-know TVXQ😂. I find most new male idols look too pale and more feminine.
Of course not every new gen kpop groups are bad but I prefer when idols can sing slow songs and can unleash their vocal potentials. But if someone prefer the new gen music, I don't mind. I guess I'm just getting older lmao
I am sorry, as a 2nd gen fan this is hilarious because the drama the kids have nowadays is such bs compared to what we used to have, and to name GD out of all people to highlight current drama is hilarious, he had serious drama until like a few months ago what with the drug investigation 🤣🤣 which ended up being a bunch of nothing, just like the silly new gen drama most times 🤣
No hate to him, he is an icon, but drama free he is not 😂
@@halane4790 I’m talking more about fandom war drama. There will always be drama surrounding the famous and what they do.
Omg… @0:40 mark --SOOOO RELATABLE!!!!
I graduated in 07, but I really got into the real world during the Vegas season, and also the Cancun one… I remember always thinking how cool it would be to be on one of those shows. I literally would convince myself I was going to be on one rather it was the real world, or the challenge SMH goodness, you couldn’t pay me enough money to be in that small of a setting with that many people for that long anymore oh heck no
They don’t even have money anymore, they just have a dream
Love the hair!❤ 💋🤌 *chef's kiss*
no ur sponsor actually helped me sm TY.
Kelly suddenly started appearing ALL over my insta, and i kept getting more and more annoyed with her facial expressions....so forced, so cringey, trying to be so cute, and it KILLS me...don't even get me STARTED on her singing my god
Look I know she's trying but my god I literally blocked her because I was so tired of seeing it
you missed saying “well my time in time turner is time… that can’t be turned”
oh how the time turns
Watching this made me feel talented
Bro the amount of hate Kelly is getting is horrible. Now people are switching up because she has a lisp but even if she didn’t, what tf did she do to yall? Blame the producers, not the idol. If anything happens to her everyone’s going to switch up and say stuff like “we should’ve protected her” or smth smh.
Hey man I like to judge every species behind the safety of a screen. Meerkat Mannor was my SHIT in middle school.
Oh my god there were other 12 years old meerkat manor fans out there
I loved that show so much as a kid!
@@marianac9663 WE UNITE. LATE, BUT UNITED
Mozart was my favorite. RIP
Not a comment about the vid, but about your ad! Ive seen some youtube vids getting sponsored by fashion chingu, which makes me skeptical if their stuff is even good. However you modelling the products made me wanna buy something from there now 😂
I'm just watching this after watching pop star academy so bet your ass I'm going to keep watching this over and over again