God I'm glad I'm not the only idiot that reuses all of the plastic bags and paper in my cooksets 😂 my daughter says I'm just too anal about my kits. I do like the thought of perlite in the Esbit 1100ml cookset. I was thinking about buying two of the small rectangular alcohol burners with the sliding lids so that I could have contact across the whole bottom, but the perlite in an Altoids tin looks like a good match, especially by unhinging the lid.
Morning Brother John, fine video Sir. I have made several puck burners, and they work well. My cook set is a red Sterno square fry pan and its red square stove [I don't know if this set is made anymore]. I use a small rectangular tin filled with carbon felt as a burner and denatured alcohol, and I can cook a full meal. Even have enough time to heat my wash water before the flames die out. Sure enjoyed visiting with you today. Am looking forward to seeing your next video. Blessings, David.
I do not have those Esbit sets. I do have the smaller Esbit solid fuel set. I did the same thing with some tins I found that fit inside. Can user either gel or pearlite. Works good. Good video. Thanks.
Interesting option. With my Esbit Solid Fuel Stove and Cook Set, I tried a tea candle cup with alcohol in it. Boils 1 cup of water ok. With my Trangia T28 Mini I switched burners to a Vargo Decagon Ti alcohol stove & added a Vargo mini folding windscreen after seeing a blog called ^strange pairings^ A better set up now. The British have made hexamine solid fuel illegal. The perlite or carbon felt type alcohol stoves is an option to try. Trangia alcohol burners have a wick between the walls. Thank you for sharing a very interesting option.👍
Thank you for sharing all of this! The community of viewers that post this type of comment turns the comment section into a database of knowledge you can't find many other places.
I was almost late for work watching this! Always riveted. Benson had a million questions about perlite that we had to pause and answer. Another great one Brother!
The new system is called the BCB Crusader Mk ll Fire Dragon, there’s also a pouch in British Multicam that can hold the entire kit. I have the Stove, US Army Canteen Cup, and Stove, Nalgene Canteen, Pathfinder Canteen Cup Lid, and Esbit Alcohol Burner. It’s a tight fit, but it all fits in the pouch.
Glad I found your channel,I like the camouflage content and survival gear. I prefer to eat off the campfire but always try to have multiple methods to cook incase. The info on Fuels was helpful. I use those tins for cotton fire tabs.
It is the "Esbit CS985HA 5-Piece Lightweight Trekking Cook Set with Brass Alcohol Burner Stove". Please watch this video before purchasing it; th-cam.com/video/4jtAbSG6bkg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Boonedockery I had a catastrophic failure with the Esbit burner. I had to replace it with a Trangia burner. Several viewers told me that they had similar failures. Here is a link to the cook set: amzn.to/3RNlSzV Here is a link to the Trangia burner: amzn.to/3v6t4yc
I got my bag of perlite in case I needed to supplement my heat this weekend. But it made me wonder... I saw the 'pill bottle stove' that uses stone 'tablets' soaked in alcohol. Could I use a pumice stone in that manner? Thoughts would be great. Thanks!
I've seen the type of stove your referring to and they use "fire stove"(often used to line wood stoves to prevent metal fatigue of the stove walls and floor) it's ceramic and is much like pumice in that it has hundreds of tiny cavities that will absorb liquid. I, myself have not used fire stone or pumice for an alcohol stove. I think it's worth experimenting with just to see if it works and how well if it does work.
I used IPA 99% (bought for de-icing and cleaning) to test my Ohuhu stove at home with marshmallows. I used about 2-3 teaspoons and it produced a large orange flame that only lasted 2,5 minutes. Couldn’t use it for the mm, so I used a candle instead. Does the perlite or gel prolong the burntime, or should I use bio-ethanol or a lower % IPA? I intend to go on a my first camping vacation and use the stove to prepare a meal. So I think I need a longer burntime. We don’t have Altoids in the Netherlands, but Amazon sells similar tins (round and rectangular). Does the material matter? Can you help me? Thanks! I really enjoy these videos, some binge watch Netflix, I prefer this! 😂
I know that it's 1 million years later, but whay not Vermiculite but Perlite? Vermiculite, has the capacity of retaining water and triple the volum, so...the capacity to absorbe the alcohol and release slowly. Thank!!!
I have a ton of perlite and no vermiculite...... Carbon Felt will do the same thing, but, I don't have any of that laying around either.... I just used what I had.
Just to experiment I wonder what would happen if you mixed the perlite with the gelled alcohol. Would it absorb the alcohol and get an longer burn time?
The perlite requires liquid alcohol to absorb. The escaping vapor burns. The gelled alcohol will not absorb into the perlite effectively. The calcium acetate works as a wicking agent for the burning alcohol. Combining them would lessen the effectiveness of both.
@mendigoldberg5744 do you know what the advantages would be for a vermiculite stone soaked in alcohol compared to a plain alcohol container (Trangia or something)?
I like using the perlite the burner is dirt cheap, works great, I had everything on hand, it's ultralite wieght, compact, etc.... Nope, no significant advantage. I'm just puking out content.
Perlite is an expanded volcanic ash material so it does not burn by itself. Kitty litter may be a formulation that includes combustible material. Check the label.
I used fiberglass housing insulation in my diy stoves. Works incredibly well.
Great tip! Thank You For Sharing It!
God I'm glad I'm not the only idiot that reuses all of the plastic bags and paper in my cooksets 😂 my daughter says I'm just too anal about my kits. I do like the thought of perlite in the Esbit 1100ml cookset. I was thinking about buying two of the small rectangular alcohol burners with the sliding lids so that I could have contact across the whole bottom, but the perlite in an Altoids tin looks like a good match, especially by unhinging the lid.
We all have our own "idiosyncrasies", I'm pleased that others share a few of mine and see the value in why I do it!
Morning Brother John, fine video Sir. I have made several puck burners, and they work well. My cook set is a red Sterno square fry pan and its red square stove [I don't know if this set is made anymore]. I use a small rectangular tin filled with carbon felt as a burner and denatured alcohol, and I can cook a full meal. Even have enough time to heat my wash water before the flames die out. Sure enjoyed visiting with you today. Am looking forward to seeing your next video. Blessings, David.
Thank You! I will most definitely have to try the carbon felt! Thanks for the tip! Blessings to you and yours Brother David!
I do not have those Esbit sets. I do have the smaller Esbit solid fuel set. I did the same thing with some tins I found that fit inside. Can user either gel or pearlite. Works good. Good video. Thanks.
Very Cool! I have not used either in my Esbit stove, BUT, I will! Thanks for the tip!
I like Perlite Stoves, I also have the Trangia alcohol burner.
I believe the Trangia Alcohol Burner is the GOLD STANDARD for alcohol burners!
Yes. @@boonedockery7220
Interesting option. With my Esbit Solid Fuel Stove and Cook Set, I tried a tea candle cup with alcohol in it. Boils 1 cup of water ok. With my Trangia T28 Mini I switched burners to a Vargo Decagon Ti alcohol stove & added a Vargo mini folding windscreen after seeing a blog called ^strange pairings^ A better set up now. The British have made hexamine solid fuel illegal. The perlite or carbon felt type alcohol stoves is an option to try. Trangia alcohol burners have a wick between the walls. Thank you for sharing a very interesting option.👍
Thank you for sharing all of this! The community of viewers that post this type of comment turns the comment section into a database of knowledge you can't find many other places.
@boonedockery7220 Yes, a lot people with good ideas & share the knowledge. A good thing👍
I was almost late for work watching this! Always riveted. Benson had a million questions about perlite that we had to pause and answer. Another great one Brother!
Thanks Brother! I'm very excited about Benson's Channel! Love both episodes! Blessings!
Your gelled alcohol and perlite alcohol burner ideas are WIZARD! The rectangular cook set is also first-rate.
Thank You Brother David! I really like this combo!
The new system is called the BCB Crusader Mk ll Fire Dragon, there’s also a pouch in British Multicam that can hold the entire kit. I have the Stove, US Army Canteen Cup, and Stove, Nalgene Canteen, Pathfinder Canteen Cup Lid, and Esbit Alcohol Burner. It’s a tight fit, but it all fits in the pouch.
Many of these items are on my "must order" list. Thanks for posting this!
Glad I found your channel,I like the camouflage content and survival gear.
I prefer to eat off the campfire but always try to have multiple methods to cook incase. The info on Fuels was helpful. I use those tins for cotton fire tabs.
Awesome and Thank You!
Thanks John; I really like these Esbit kits, but like you prefer to use alcohol rather than the Hexamine cubes.
You're Very Welcome! My "heat tabs" are pretty much going to be relegated for emergency use (or mission specific use) only!
Looks like a nice setup.
Thank You!
Thanks for another great vid.
I have a question for you, if you have the time.
If push came to shove, could 70% alcohol be used with a perlite stove?
Yes. Definitely not preferred, but if push came to shove, it would work well enough.
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Thanks alot. 👍
And Merry Christmas to you, and yours.
great video and channel
Thank you very much!
Luv your vids. Been searching for the round cook set you show here. What brand name and where might I fine it? Thanks.
It is the "Esbit CS985HA 5-Piece Lightweight Trekking Cook Set with Brass Alcohol Burner Stove". Please watch this video before purchasing it; th-cam.com/video/4jtAbSG6bkg/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Boonedockery I had a catastrophic failure with the Esbit burner. I had to replace it with a Trangia burner. Several viewers told me that they had similar failures.
Here is a link to the cook set: amzn.to/3RNlSzV
Here is a link to the Trangia burner: amzn.to/3v6t4yc
@@boonedockery7220 Ordered but now have to wait till Jan 2 2024. I already have several of the Trangia burners if needed. Thanks.
I got my bag of perlite in case I needed to supplement my heat this weekend. But it made me wonder... I saw the 'pill bottle stove' that uses stone 'tablets' soaked in alcohol. Could I use a pumice stone in that manner? Thoughts would be great. Thanks!
I've seen the type of stove your referring to and they use "fire stove"(often used to line wood stoves to prevent metal fatigue of the stove walls and floor) it's ceramic and is much like pumice in that it has hundreds of tiny cavities that will absorb liquid. I, myself have not used fire stone or pumice for an alcohol stove. I think it's worth experimenting with just to see if it works and how well if it does work.
It's made of vermiculite. You can easily saw blocks of a bigger plate with a wood saw.
I used IPA 99% (bought for de-icing and cleaning) to test my Ohuhu stove at home with marshmallows. I used about 2-3 teaspoons and it produced a large orange flame that only lasted 2,5 minutes. Couldn’t use it for the mm, so I used a candle instead.
Does the perlite or gel prolong the burntime, or should I use bio-ethanol or a lower % IPA? I intend to go on a my first camping vacation and use the stove to prepare a meal. So I think I need a longer burntime.
We don’t have Altoids in the Netherlands, but Amazon sells similar tins (round and rectangular). Does the material matter? Can you help me? Thanks!
I really enjoy these videos, some binge watch Netflix, I prefer this! 😂
The perlite burns hot and fast, the gell burns at a lower temperature, for a longer period of time. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, Thank You!
I know that it's 1 million years later, but whay not Vermiculite but Perlite? Vermiculite, has the capacity of retaining water and triple the volum, so...the capacity to absorbe the alcohol and release slowly. Thank!!!
I have a ton of perlite and no vermiculite...... Carbon Felt will do the same thing, but, I don't have any of that laying around either.... I just used what I had.
@@boonedockery7220 thank you very much for your answer. !
Just to experiment I wonder what would happen if you mixed the perlite with the gelled alcohol. Would it absorb the alcohol and get an longer burn time?
The perlite requires liquid alcohol to absorb. The escaping vapor burns. The gelled alcohol will not absorb into the perlite effectively. The calcium acetate works as a wicking agent for the burning alcohol. Combining them would lessen the effectiveness of both.
Have you also tried to do the same way with Vermiculite? Shouldn't it perform better because it has better absorption properties?
I have not.
@mendigoldberg5744 do you know what the advantages would be for a vermiculite stone soaked in alcohol compared to a plain alcohol container (Trangia or something)?
So.............Other than content for this video is there really any significant advantage to Perlite Alcohol.
I like using the perlite the burner is dirt cheap, works great, I had everything on hand, it's ultralite wieght, compact, etc....
Nope, no significant advantage. I'm just puking out content.
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badass
Maybe mention where you got those cans; or, everybody can just duplicate the effort.
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@@boonedockery7220 THANKS!
Would adding perlite to the trangia burner do anything useful?
No.
Where did you find your containers. Ty
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Are you located in Ohio? Your voice/accent remind me a LOT of Dave Canterbury. Great video, btw.
Hahahaha.... Yes, I live in Ohio, about 20 miles away from Dave. Thank You! I'm glad you liked it!
Can i use organic cat litter in place of perlite
Perlite is an expanded volcanic ash material so it does not burn by itself. Kitty litter may be a formulation that includes combustible material. Check the label.
James Nailed It!
Is that a 4oz time you use or less?
I think so.
hydroscopic?
absorbs liquid.
Please get to the point you keep on going back to the beginning
This is my hobby, it is what it is and that will more than likely not change anytime soon. Thanks for watching and commenting.