Make Your Own Gelled Alcohol!
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- Make Your Own Gelled Alcohol! Three years ago when the great covid hoax started, I had a lot of extra time on my hands as I am certain most of you did as well. I discovered Hiram Cook's TH-cam channel ( / @mrhiramcook ). He Is a DIY Stove Guru! I watched several of his videos on gelled alcohol fuel and made a big batch of my own. The gelled alcohol fuel worked very well as a fuel alternative to solid fuel tabs when intense heat is not needed nor desired.
I purchased Esbit's rectangular solid fuel cook set and quickly found that the stove portion of the set was limited, as it's size only afforded the use of solid fuel tabs. Solid fuel tabs have a lot of drawbacks. One of which is the heat is so intense that you can really only boil water with the thing. I experimented with gelled Sterno fuel in an Altoids tin and it worked great for actual cooking with the set. However the Sterno fuel was expensive and isn't available everywhere.
I tried the Gelled Alcohol that Hiram taught me to make in an Altoids tin and It worked great! I can make my own gelled alcohol at a fraction of the cost of gelled Sterno and with the mount of the primary ingredient (calcium acetate) I have enough material on hand to make over 100 gallons of the stuff!
Hiram hasn't posted a video in 6 years, but the vast catalog of video's he has posted are all worth watching for any and all camp stove enthusiast.
Links:
Calcium Acetate: amzn.to/3qfrvM6
Esbit Lightweight Solid Fuel stove and Camping Cookware Set: amzn.to/47ku9Rq
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Never eat in your tent. Bear safety rule number 1. Also, never have anything burning in your tent.
I will pin your comment. Thanks for the advice!
@@boonedockery7220 Thank you.
Never stayed in a hot tent have you?
We don't have bears in the UK, so no, it is not a problem
@@168Diplomat I don't know why my answer was deleted. Is it because I referred to my channel where I show hot tent camping?
Anyways, I do hot camping a lot, it's my favorite winter activity.
I was told by my Sgt Major many,many years ago that the reason Heximine gives off such noxious, smelly fumes is that when Heximine was first being used in the Korean War it was unscented and because of the extremely cold weather troops were using their cookers inside their dugouts. This resulted in carbon monoxide poisoning of those in the dugout. That's why the infamous smell was added , as a safety factor.
Interesting. I made the mistake of trying to make some coffee in my pup-tent with trioxane tabs when I was in the Army. It had a very similar affect as CS. Burning nostrils and eyes! Never made that mistake again. I have also seen soldiers burn themselves by picking up a burning tad. The flame is nearly invisible.
Same reason the gas we cook on (in the Netherlands at least) has an added and distinct smell to it, safety!
Hexamine naturally produces formaldehyde in any mildly acidic environment, such as if it touched your skin or got any food on it.
I think that fishy smell is a property of any hexamine fuel tablet. Old Soviet and new Russian-made tablets smells the same. No additional odorant needed. :)
And yes, DO NOT burn hexamine (or any fuel at all) in a closed volume of air.
When working in the Army refueling Helicopters out in the field, we took C-ration can made vents using P38 can opener, poured dirt inside can and put Jet fuel in it, worked great for heating our meals.
That's Awesome!!!!! I love "Old School Can Do" Hacks!!!! Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing this!!!!!
Thanks
Well, shoot! ‘Fresh out of JET FUEL! 😂😂😂😊
Looks like good SHTF barter material... Mix batches into 1 pint Mason Jars with set of instructions and trade away.
It's midnight and I should be sleeping, but no, I need to watch how to make gelled alcohol which just popped up on my feed 😂
Hahahaaaaa!!!!! Well, we gotta do what we gotta do! Hahahaaaaaa!!!! Thanks for watching!
I just did the dried egg shell and vinegar method to make calcium acetate...now I just need to filter it, and boil it down to about 1/2 volume then mix with some alcohol!
I ended up making 9 dz eggs for pickled eggs, took shells put on cookie sheet in oven set to lowest temp it would run for a few hours...then put shells in "the bullet" and powdered them...25gr powdered shells per 100ml of 5% vinegar(I actually doubled it)...let foaming stop, filter...boil down to 1/2 volume...then mix alcohol straight into the liquid...instant gelled alcohol :)
AWESOME!!!!! Did you post a video?????? This is on my list of things to do! Thank You!
What quantity of alcohol to vinegar solution please?
@@67wing umm...it's in the video I found on YT...unfortunately...I don't remember
th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=gelled+alcohol
Great recipe! I use Coghlans fuel tabs which don't have the fumes of the Esbit tabs. But in the tent, I use tea candles. I've added aluminum reflector plates to fill in the side gaps of my folding Esbit stove to reduce wind and keep heat under cooking pan. Peace
I use Coghlan's fuel tabs, they are top notch, especially for the price! I've never tried to cook with tea candles. I will have to give it a try. Thanks for sharing the tip!
*Use a Catalytic Stove to avoid Carbon Monoxide poisoning.* You can attach your own wire cage extension to the existing wire cage they come with, so that you can put a cook pot over the clean heat. I have even heated a whole house that way for an entire winter with a Mr Heater Buddy and their extension hose to a 20-pound propane tank, enough for about 3 days of heating on the low heat setting. That heater is designed to be used even inside a tent, but it does need a bit of fresh air coming in since the combustion uses up oxygen in the air, as well as producing Carbon Dioxide that must be vented occasionally. I kept a 16-quart stainless steel pot half-full of water on a low boil the whole winter (which was very handy), and *none of the heat or humidity was wasted through venting, because the house itself was leaking air.* If possible, arrange to fasten the stove and even the pot to a wall, because you don't want it to tip over and spill. The Mr Heater Buddy will switch off automatically if it tips over, but it stays quite hot for several minutes and you don't want it to ignite anything combustible in the area. *Also, use a CO detector just in case, because you really can kill yourself and your whole family with Carbon Monoxide poisoning.*
Reminds me of working with my "chemistry set" when I was a kid. Very cool video.
Yeah, those were the days! Merry Christmas Kid! Here's A Box Of Chemicals, Go Blow Something Up! Hahahahahaaaaa!!!!! Thank you, I can't get over how easy, cost effective and efficient this stuff is. Have a great weekend!
Your option to get out of your tent in the rain is called a tarp. Fer instance, an A frame or plow point configuration with your tent door snugged up to it works well.
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I want to thank you for this video yours is the best and most exact instructions on how to make this stuff on TH-cam that I could find.
Thank You! I get lucky once in a while!
I imagine that spreading the fuel over the bottom of the Altoids tin would even out the heat and also minimize the unburned fuel. It could be interesting to do a side-by-side comparison of this product and the Perlite version.
I think I'll do that. Someone else asked me to do a side by side comparison of the perlite with a Trangia burner as well. It's on my List!
Gel seems like it would be more of a controlled burn!!!
@@boonedockery7220 I think a combined calcium acetate AND Perlite might be the way to prevent spills in even old mix.
spreading the fuel out will minimize unburnt fuel but also shorten burn time so you will need to use slightly more fuel to account for the larger surface area
Loved this! Thank you so much!
1967, U.S. Army, Germany, winter, guard duty. we burned denatured alcohol to stay warm in the guard shack.
Can’t believe all the drama. Thanks for showing this. It’s very useful.
Tell me about it..... I am grateful you appreciate the information!
A correction, the ash will be calcium oxide, the acitate being burned off. Throw it into vinegar to make more calcium acitate.
Mix both together ,love it thanks
Thank You!
Cool project! Thanks for sharing 😊
Awesome, I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
Very cool thanks for the vid definitely gonna try this out cuz I love my sterno set up
Have fun!
Once this is burned it converts to calcium carbonate (eggshell again) and a small amount of acetone which further fuels the fire
Cool! Thank you!
Does it mean , you can recycle the use of it again? like adding Vinegar or Acetic acid??? 😮
So is calcium carbonate the same as calcium acetate?
When I was ten years old I got a model working steam engine for Christmas. It used tiny cans of Sterno as fuel, and actually made steam. It took a little too long for the impatient child that I was, so since I already knew that fire needed air, I experimented with altering the vents that let air into the “firebox”. I found that enlarging them didn’t help, but constricting them with aluminum foil did. I didn’t keep notes but I did find the optimum vent sizes to get steam quicker, though it used up the Sterno faster too.
I’ve never used solid fuel stoves myself because a friend used one in my presence and it stank as you say. I bet that if you fiddled with the openings on that stove using aluminum foil you could get it to easily boil water in under ten minutes.
I will have to experiment with this theory. Thanks for sharing it!
I love how you turned that Esbit solid fuel stove into a multifuel stove! You can use twigs, alcohol, and possibly propane or butane. Want to test the stove on how it does with a gas canister?
The key issue/impediment is the depth of the actual stove section. It is quite shallow and finding a gas burner to fit in it may be very difficult to impossible. Using the provided stove may not be very effective as a twig stove as there is only one opening to provide oxygen to feed the flame. Also being aluminum, the intense heat of an uncontained flame in the stove could cause metal fatigue and shorten the lifespan of the stove.
Good & helpful. Thanks!
You're welcome!
Cool! Thanks!
Thank you so much for sharing this. I can't wait to try it out myself.
My Pleasure! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Wow, did not know this until YT recommended your video. This would also make an easy fire starter. Put a tablespoon of gel under some tinder and away you go!
Thank You! I agree, it would make a great fire starter. TH-cam is a fickle beast as far as channel visibility goes. I'm glad they recommended my channel and I hope you find a dew more of my videos that you like.
Thank you so much for this video.
You are so welcome!
Forget the boil test...we need a fry test with a thin stainless steel skillet like the ones that come in mess kits.
I have several videos in which I cook with the Gelled Fuel. Several after I posted this video.
The calcium is also good for putting on your garden at the end ofna grow season to help replenish the soil. 😁
Never thought of using some as a wick though
We raise laying hens and we always throw our egg shells in the compost. At the end of Fall we put a layer of the compost over our soil. After tilling in the Spring you can barely see a recognizable egg shell. So I guess I've been adding calcium acetate to my garden for years and never ever thought about it. I guess Bob Ross would call that a "Happy Accident"!
I'm no chemist, had it not been for watching Hiram Cook's video, I never would have known about it. Hiram hasn't posted a video in 7 years. He is a GURU with DIY camp stoves and fuels. If you haven't checked his channel out, It's well worth your time. www.youtube.com/@MrHiramCook/featured
Thanks for this gem!
My pleasure!
Home depot has 30% vinegar, and the feed store has crushed oyster shells. This stuff comes out so concentrated, crystals grow everywhere! Doing it right now👍
I suggest that if you think the older fuel is too loose, you might be able to tighten it up by adding more Calcium Acetate. You would have to experiment as to the proper amount because it's augmenting already produced fuel but it should firm it up.
I tried that with little success. I don't mind to sloppy batch too much. It still burns but just a little hotter until the liquid alcohol burns off.
I have used esbit tabs, gelled stereo, Kojin alcohol stove, and even as a stick stove rarely. It’s nice to have options
Speaking gibberish..
Good explanation of the process. I’ve made my own gel fuel using acetone and styrofoam and it’s fine for outdoors but this would be better for rainy days in the tent. It seems that using a second altoids tin as a spacer would get the heat closer to the pot Have you tried using a tin with the lid still attached and closing the lid to extinguish the flame for conserving fuel once the flame is no longer needed? Great video.
I made this specifically for my rectangular Esbit cook set. The space between the pot and flame is near perfect.
l love it ! . im glad i stumbled across your channel . im saving this one lol . being i make alcohol now and then its a perfect combo . thanks for sharing take care
Awesome! I'm very pleased you liked it! Thank You!
Shortcut to this, grind some egg shells, mix them with vinegar, wait for it to bubble up, strain through a coffee filter. There you have it, calcium acetate + water. Then mix in the alcohol, preferably food grade ethyl alcohol so it's non toxic.
THANK YOU!!!!!
So is the calcium acetate reusable? If so it seems to be more a catalyst than anything.
@@nevyngould1744your message got me curious, and in a random chemistry reddit thread, found this:
"Calcium acetate itself will decompose only at about 400 C, releasing acetone, and leaving behind insoluble calcium carbonate, that is white".
Ethyl alcohol flame has about ~1920 °C (~3500F).
I don't think there will be anything reusable left, except powdered eggshells (calcium carbonate). Which I guess could be re-mixed with vinegar, until it bubbles up again, strained, mixed again with alcohol.
I might even try to do this, one of these days, to see what happens.
Thank you for that. 👍
I used to mix green mentholated rubbing alcohol and packs of clear gelatin mix in the home canning section to make my own sterno style fuel.
Very Cool!
I had a hard time seeing you at first because you perfectly melded in with the backround camo
Great info, gonna try making tomorrow for uocoming winter camp trip
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Chemistry is a lot of fun
"...That's the Berries"
I'm gonna borrow that!
Also, I think lastic might be better than mason jar lids on this one. I would be worried about rust.
Great recipe! Thank you.
Seems like with 2 heaping tablespoons you can really cook an egg and a can of soup. That's amazing.
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it! You'll need to play with the amount you need for different items you cook. Altitude and temperature will be factors that can affect burn time and heat.
You can get plastic lids
You can also get glass mason jar lids. They have a metal screw, that can often be removed when your food is vacuum sealed, but should stay on in this case.
I made my own solid fuel stove that uses cardboard and candlewax. I have an aluminium folding fire surround for using it outside too. I made it from a travel sweets (candy) tin and an offcut block of wood. I upgraded it the other day to use cardboard and recycled candlewax, as yet untested.
VERY COOL!!!!
The problem with cardboard and wax firebox is the time for it to cool down to pack it away. Plus, there is high smoke and suet on pots.
What I did with the batch I made I either added cotton balls, or the kitty litter that’s looks like goose turds. 3D Printed 2x2x1” cubs with TPU seal top. Place either cotton ball or kitty litter on containers. Fuel becomes more like the solid tablets.
VERY COOL! Thanks for sharing that!
Do you still mix calcium?
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Bill, from Tn. 🇺🇸
Thank you very much! Welcome to the family Bill! I LOVE Tennessee!
A wood fire outside might be better. And if you have bears, it might scare them
Great idea mate, cheers Graham
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome stuff buddy, can imagine it will have a decent shelf life once stored 👍
The older batch has separated a bit but burns perfectly.
Thanks that's a good thing to know. I imagine a circular burner with draft holes would burn better than in a rectangular unvented tin
You can make calcium acetate by dissolving egg shells in 30% vinegar.
If you want to burn alcohol in your tent buy the indoor stove type. No poisonous fumes. Any other type of denatured alcohol is dangerous to breathe or drink. Of course Everclear would also work
Now, could you use powdered gelatin to help jelly your fuel?
Eggshells are composed of calcium carbonate - NOT acetate!
Also if cooking inside your tent, only use methanol as it burns clean giving off no harmful C02 gases.
The Walter White of boon docking.
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Great video and useful information. Is it possible to add more calcium acetate to you old batch to make it more solid?
You and I think alike! I tried that, yet it did not work on it's own, it only clumped up. I then tried scooping out the clumps and adding more solution, but it just made it more watery. It still burns great, just doesn't have the consistency it did before.
I'm wondering if this would work with high test ethanol, so you could safely roast marshmallows over the flame. Might not get as hot, I have no clue, but would be plenty satisfying the kids when the location won't allow an open fire.
I honestly don't know. It would be worth testing!
Interesting. Thanks for demo'ing the gelled alcohol method. I don't believe you ever stated WHY one would prefer gelled alcohol. In my backcountry experience, typically at 10,000 ft ASL, I get 12 oz of water to boil w/ just straight denatured alcohol in 10 minutes... which is how long the alcohol lasts, coincidentally. So why gel? Does it carry well in the backcountry, i.e. it doesn't need refrigeration, right? So, why? Thanks.
I do not use the gelled alcohol to boil water. I use it to cook with (frying, and sauteing) as the heat produced is lower than straight denatured alcohol.
Pretty cool video, will give it a try.
It's really awesome stuff. Have fun!
Thanks
I still have my old Sterno stove that I got in the 1980s during my first tour in the Marine Corps at 29 Palms Ca along with a couple of canteen cups that I used for everything
I had one of those too! I have no idea what happened to it?????
Excellent. Now I can refill those surplus swiss M71 stoves. Thanks for sharing !
Perfect!!!!
Newly subscribed. Great info 👍
Awesome! Thank you and welcome to the family!
@@boonedockery7220 My family and I look forward to viewing more of your videos and putting them to use in these coming days. May God bless you in all that you endeavor to do, my friend. ✝️
I do the same thing except a lot easier and quicker. Alcohol absorbed with dryer lint and mixed with corn starch. So much easier.
Very Cool! Thanks for sharing this!
Mixing the calcium with white vinegar (instead of water) and then boiling off about half of the residual volume (water content), this makes calcium acetate, before adding the alcohol, will give a better mix.
Also, plain white chalk will be almost pure calcium carbonate, and is easily crushed in a mortar, or you can dissolve limestone in the vinegar to make the calcium acetate.
Thanks, I will have to look into that!
I would like to seeing you do it with the eggshells maybe next video mate, thanks Graham
I wonder if you added a bit of calcum acetate to the jar and shake up to see if it would re-solidify more
I mix it too haha was sooo nice
Is it good to the lungs
And can you use a tuna can for burning the tbsp?
Another clever idea.
Thank you
Cool video- Im going to make some of this.
Thank you! It's inexpensive, easy and effective!
Brother John, we see a new side to you. Didn't know that you were a chemist. I find this new to me fuel to be intriguing and much better than any solid fuel I have ever used. I agree with you that solid fuel is smelly and makes a mess of the cook pot, but it is convenient to carry. And speaking of carrying, how do you transport this conveniently? Inquiring minds want to know! Great teaching video my friend!
Thank You Brother David! I have a large bin filled with all kinds of recycled containers. I used one shaped like a giant test tube with a screw on cap. it was perfect to cook two meals with.
Is it safe to use indoors for cooking?
Adding gelatin (or probably agar, too) to the water and acetate helps it set up better. Adding a little lamp oil, Zippo lighter fluid to the alcohol helps it burn hotter. I have no idea about ratios, but we used it to refill our Sterno containers in Boy Scouts, back in the '70's, when Sterno was common for backpacking. (Those Sterno cans fit inside old soda cans perfectly, so you could make stove stands easily.) I remember adding too much fuel could ruin an entire batch and it wouldn't set up.
Great info! Thanks for sharing it!
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Very cool.....excellent idea for backpack or hunting backpack emergency fire starter. Can you order smaller containers of the Calcium Acetate? Do you have a link for the Calcium?
I am confident you can purchase Calcium Acetate in smaller containers. I posted a link to the size I ordered in the video description.
I love that alcohol dispenser!
The Trangia fuel bottles are amazing!
I got a few Sterno cans empty and could see this stuff being put in those, for later use. Camping or whatever.
I use either pearlite in a tin or the gel from disposable diapers. They both work pretty well, although, the pearlite works better.
I am curious if you could add alcohol to the used portion left in the tin to make another batch. In other words can the used mixture be reconstituted, or does the calcium get damaged in the fire.
This is an excellent idea for further experimentation. I have never tried recycling the calcium.
Now if I could find 2 or 3 liter prepops worth the money, to carry the gel. They always charge more than a full bottle of soda, for the unpopped bottle blank!
You Are Correct! I bought several a while back and thought I got a good deal. They are nearly double the price that I paid then, now.
Those of you that have a blender or food processor can save some time powdering the egg shells. Neat video.
This video is great. I did not know you could make your own fuel. Can you make the step by step video with the eggs shells. I have tons of egg shells. II use them on my garden. Now i know i can make fuel.
It's on my massive list of things to film!
I watched your perlite video and was intrigued with the possibilities. Have you or anyone else tried combining the perlite method WITH the gelled fuel??? What would happen? Is there anything to be gained there? I was hoping that using both together might give you a more consistent, longer lasting flame?
The perlite needs liquid alcohol to create the controlled burn.
I'm going to make some of this stuff, but I will use Chalk to make my gel fuel. I will use a old Stainless Steel 1/4 measuring cup to hold the fuel. Nice, but how do you transport it in small portions, to burn in your stove? Can you freeze it into say cubes? And then wrap in foil or plastic?
You can crumble it up and reconstitute it for reuse.
This is really interesting. Is it possible to reuse the ash or is it depleted? Any and all info is appreciated
I honestly don't know.
Thanks for a great video. Once I get some calcium acetate, I'm making some. 👍 Quick question, how well does this fuel work in the winter?
To be perfectly honest, I've not used it in extreme cold. I would suspect it might firm up in the storage container, however not enough to prevent it from being scooped out. Alcohol burners like Trangia's (my personal favorite) when used in winter have to heat up enough to gasify the alcohol. Alcohol doesn't burn as hot as white gas, so that preheating period takes a little time. Once it's gasified, it works perfectly normal just like in warmer environments. Some people use a small dish to set the burner in. They pour a little alcohol in the dish with the burner and ignite it. The alcohol burning around the burner heats it up faster in order to gasify the alcohol quicker. I personally don't mind waiting.
The Calcium Acetate acts as a wicking material and doesn't necessitate gasification so it "should" work fine. I would definitely use a good 360degree windshield to maximize fuel efficiency.
Have a great weekend!
@@boonedockery7220 Thanks, I'll have to give it a try this winter and I'll let you know. You have a great weekend too!
Great video thanks! Watched a couple of times but didn't catch what specific type of alcohol was used?
Thank You! I used denatured alcohol.
Thanks so much!
Vegetable oil (Crisco, for instance) does not smell bad and doesn't have noxious, poisonous vapors.
Can you use jello or gelatin, and mix alcohol or vodka? To make a jelly like burning stove?
Gelatin is not stable in higher temperatures and collagen which gelatin is made of is not a wicking agent. That being said, Very High proof Vodka could easily work like the British Dragon Fire in cooler temperatures and serve as a anti-viral hand sanitizer AND consumable (for whatever reason one would wish to consume Very High Proof Alcohol) . The ultimate Bushcrafting Jello Shot! Thanks for sharing this!
I wonder if an old blender would work, or an old stand mixer to combine everything?
It begins to jell instantly. If anything a small whisk would work well.
Neat, about how many eggshells will it take to make a cut of this fuel ? and will eggshells work as well as Calcium Acetate?
Haven't got a clue. I've never made it myself.
Would the gel set and combine better if you stirred and had a whirl pool when adding the water calcium acetate mixture.?
It thickens rapidly. I don't think I could create a vortex quickly enough.
Sorry, I'm a noob. Does it have to be denatured alcohol, or will a high-proof isopropyl work as well? Thanks in advance.
Denatured alcohol burns cleaner than isopropyl, but it will work at 90-99%
If egg shells are used, same 1/4 c.? Plus anything else (vinegar)?
I will have to do a little more research and post a video of the process. Then I will be able to answer your question.
I found your video of much interest. Some years ago I came across a video illustrating the making of solid fuel cells using kieselguhr and methanol but as this was on no interest to me at the time I did not a note of the instructions. I am now interested in the solid fuel cell due to the cost of cooking gas having insanely gone up in the third world country where I live. Would you know of this method and the proportions, the type of container etc etc. I hope you will be able to help me out.
I'm sorry, I've never attempted to make my own solid fuel. However, I will look and if I find something that works, I'll post a DYI video about it.
Wondering if a pure powdered soap like (I think) Lux pure soap flakes would also work to make a variation of this gelled alcohol. I think the soap flakes would burn and likely absorb alcohol. Not sure how it would release the energy.
Haven't gotta clue....
thanks for the vid hope to see a lot more it was a big help
from steve in canada bc
Thanks for watching!
Am from UK 🇬🇧 what I use is something very similar
But what I did to get a full surface heat
was cut up
old bean can's in strips 50mm with a foot section 2 of them next to each other with 4mm distance for carbon felt then used old battery for fusion weld the tabs down then put some alcohol in stove burns brilliant felt never burns away
you can use cooking oils But may need
little help from alcohol to start it very easy to make
Very cool! Thanks for sharing this!
9:51 look at his pocket. a spider crawls out and around 😂
I can see Myself making this .
I can also see Mr. fire alarm get scared that My house is ablaze, and report it to the alarm company , and , They in turn report that to Mr. Fireman .... don't ask how I know
( just trust that I KNOW ) !
no questions asked! :)
Even be used as a for starter 👍🇺🇸
Yes!👍
can i use methalated spirits or nail polish remover for the alchohol ?
Methalated spirits should work.