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Mizuno JPX921 Hot Metal PRO vs Ping G425
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.พ. 2021
- Ping G425 Iron vs Mizuno JPX921 Hot Metal Pro. Probably the closest in the mini series of comparisons. Both are similar size, both have larger brothers in the G710 and the Hot Metal. With the G425 now with a smaller profile, both are looking to appeal to the slightly better high handicapper or at least the player looking for a more pleasing profile.
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I just wanted to thank you for devoting so much time to recording and analyzing mishits. I like to watch pros stripe drives down the middle as much as the next guy, but it has nothing to do with my game. This is exactly what I need to decide what clubs I should be looking at. Thanks, and subscribed!
Appreciate the kind feedback Tate 👍
The exact comparison I need. I am probably going for the Mizuno.
I am just so impressed by how straight you hit them!
He hit them both straight by the way. Try them before you buy them. They are both excellent.... The feel and sound will be better with the Mizzuno.
@@JohnnyDSR agreed. I meant both straight. I have trialled both several times now and will be booking in with the local Mizuno rep for a final session to decide details. I like the hot metal as well has hot metal pro. Decisions, decisions.
Great comparison. I find the fact that you have a Mizuno hat and bag foreshadows your conclusions.
I've hit both of these irons, and both are quite good. For me the differences were that the Hot Metal Pro looks better, has a broader shaft selection, is better on low strikes, and flies slightly higher with a bit more spin. Similarities are cost is the same and distance is the same. I tested the HM Pro with NS Pro Neo, and the 425 with both the TT Elevate and the stock graphite shaft. I tried a couple of other shafts in each head, but these were the shafts that performed the best for each club. I also tried the 921 Hot Metal and the Forged. I did not like the HM as it looked chunky and the performance was no better than the HM Pro. The Forged was a close 2nd, but not quite as easy to hit as the HM Pro.
Hi Steve, with a great descriptive comment like that you should do my videos for me 😁😁 great to know you enjoyed your testing and you got a result. The HM Pros are my overall favourite as well 👍
Great video. I'm a new golfer and got fitted yesterday. Tried a load of clubs and these 2 came top quite comfortably. They were just about head to head with everything so I just went with the ping. They just about shaded it in my dispersion and height. Height was my biggest issue so went for them. Plus they were a fair bit cheaper too
Great review. I play the Mizuno Hot Metal for its feel n performance. When getting fit, it came down to the Ping and the Mizuno, I took feel over a little performance advantage of the Ping.
Glad you are happy with your fitting choice. You will be playing these clubs for potentially many years to come so it's essential that you have the right feeling irons. Performance is a variable every day.
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
waiting for my hot metal pros to come in....thanks for the review....
Makes me smile that you are not a center striker of the club like me. Maybe in my next life I will hit the center more but the way I look at it… my clubs last longer since I use the whole face! 😬 Great review BTW!
Normal average strike for irons for me is 3mm Toe 4mm Low. Driver is 8mm Toe and 7mm High.
I enjoy the off centre testing! It actually took quite a long time to learn to do, hitting off centre on purpose but not to change delivery angles 👍
Another excellent video review and comparison. The biggest difference for me is the offset. I'm left eye dominant, so offset doesn't work as well for me. That's why I have the JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro set. My old Mizuno MP-5 blades are waiting as a backup, just in case. Keep up the great work. Cheers!
Just found your channel. Love it! Your forgiveness reviews are unmatched on TH-cam! I was fitted for 921 HM Pro. My miss is toe strikes. Sounds like these are good clubs for that. Are there any newer clubs that have better toe strike forgiveness?
Not really, even the brand brand new offerings will only have very slight increases in forgiveness performance, so small that will most probably not be noticed if you have a model before. I always as a general rule say that it's always good to skip a model to see what improvements really have been made 👍🏻
Thanks very much for subscribing, much more content coming 👍🏻
I tried them both and chose the hot metal pro over the ping, for me it had a better sound and feel that I liked better.
It's most definitely an individual feel thing. Some like a crisper sound whilst others like the softer feel. Both very good clubs, personally I agree I prefer the sound of the Mizuno.... But I'm used to Blades so still some way off of those 😊
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
Love the comparison you do, l would love a match off between the mizuno JPX 921 forged and the callaway apex 21 forged
Callaway reviews coming soon and some match ups as well 👍
And the JPX 921 Forged with the Srixon ZX5.
Bought the Mizuno HMP as well , beautiful irons .
Totally agree with the comment below. You do the best club reviews on You Tube for the ordinary golfer because you test forgiveness by recording the impact of miss-hits. Much appreciated. That said, I often wonder what the impact would be for slower swing speeds. Would you expect the drop off in terms of distance and accuracy to be proportionate at swing speeds 10 mph slower?
Being fair Dave, if you imagine that misses are effectively drop offs from 100% then the fast or further an iron goes then the bigger a 10% drop off for example would be. So actually the drop off is smaller for the slower swinger than at my speed 👍
Thanks for the comment and kind feedback 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thanks. That's good to know.
Enjoyed the video as I've just bought the jpx hot metal pro . I have the ping i500 and enjoy playing with them. But I'm getting a bit older and a few injuries and hoping the mizuno's are going to help out more in the future . The video has been a bit assuring I've done the right thing 🤞. Just waiting now 90 day but hoping it'll be less 🙂
Excellent review as usual
Excellent video as usual! I have 919 Hot Metal 4&5 for long iron replacement to match with my i210 set. Those mizuno GI irons are amazing and feeling is great!
Offset is the only downside for me. As you tested both Hot Metal Pro and Hot Metal, are the Pro way less forgiving than the standard model?
Nope they are the same for forgiveness
Excellent thorough comparison. Money is not that much different between two as well.
G425 has gone up in price slightly from this year to last but not by a surprising amount. The Driver has remained the same price but I think the fairways and hybrids have increased slightly too 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thanks for the reply. I am hitting JPX919 Hot Met Pro. Bought them last year after I got rid of my Ping 410 shovels. Do you think it with be worth trading in for the JPX921 HM pros. I must admit I like my irons and am hesitant to trade but would if technical advances are worth the new investment. Shooting as an 8 handicap.
The 921 are an evolution not a revolution so advancements would be marginal and would have to be seen over the entire season rather than in a session. Feel is improved which helps for understanding ball striking and they spin fractionally more like for like..... 👍
Parting with your hard earned is in this case completely up to you if you feel the benefits are worth it 👍
Hi - good video. I am waiting for a new set of Mizunos in my custom fit spec from a year ago. I have asked for a Hot Metal pro 4 iron with the loft increased from 19 degrees to 22, to blend in with my MB/MMC set. Bit of a risk but I did it over the phone, do you think this will work with the offset being reduced so much? What about the bounce too? Maybe i've gone too weak
the 5 iron is 22 degrees , incase u didn't know, great clubs
Really good analysis again, Jay. Unrelated question; I play G710 with graphite shafts so that gives you a clue to my ability and swing speed, but just bought some Ping i200 second hand only PW to 6 iron and have to say loving them. Different and need to get on a range / launch monitor to compare but what's the nearest Mizuno to the now Ping i210 series?
Good review. Thanks for that, it helped me make up my mind. Mizuno it is.
You'd most probably be very satisfied with both but there are differences between the two that will definitely sway people one way or the other. Personally I think the same as you 👍
I like the option of combining the Hot Metal/Hot Metal Pro with the Mizuno Fly-Hi hybrids which are made to match with the Hot Metals. I'm not sure how well these limit the gaps in a combined set, but it has to be better than using other hybrids. I think a proper fitting would likely clear up any issues in the gapping.
Definitely would Bill. Going somewhere with a great understanding of the product and with great technology helping can ensure you get the right gapping for your bag. Blending those clubs would work exceptionally well.
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
@@AskGolfNut Hi Jay & Bill, Bill I think you are on to a winner there. I am going for a fitting here in Dublin early May. My current plan is the 6 & 7 in the Hot Metal and then the scoring irons in the Pro. I will then put the fli-hi in for the longer iron replacement 3, 4 & 5 or however it will gap. Can't wait!
There is one factor that Ping provides I an not sure if you mentioned... Power loft spec and Retro loft spec along with the Standard spec which provides for more fitting options and Arcos if you are in that mid hdcp and want to gather real swing data for improvement. With respect to sound and feel, yes that goes to Mizzuno all day long. No surprise there. However if you are a long time Ping G series fan you won't care about the sound in fact its even a tad better than the G410. A small tad that is :)
Enjoyed the comparison . Do you feel the pro is aimed more at game improvement or players distance iron? Thought the hot metal was the game improvement iron thx.
They both offer near on identical levels of forgiveness but the Pro has a slightly smaller profile and look to it. The Pro having a thinner top line and reduced offset doesn't change its forgiveness in any way but does open the club up to players looking for a more players inspired look.
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
If noise is the only complaint I’ll live with it
If it performs well and you like the looks then why not 👍 some people will love the confidence inspiring whack that comes with striking the G425 👍
Awesome videos, I have been playing a blended set of MP20MB/MMC/HMBs and thinking of going back to the JPX line - specifically the HM Pro, largely because I still want a clean look at address and ability to shape it when I want to, but a bit more forgiveness. These blended set seemed like a great idea, and was great on the simulator, but, there's something disorienting about picking up what feels like a different club each time I go to hit an iron...HMB on those longer irons, MMC for a couple shots here and there, then MB in the lower scoring irons. I am not sure, but, I think it just messes with me mentally :D One thought for you on the swing speed difference though, between the 425 and the JPX line you have noticed - and how much of it has to do with that AWT shaft? You may have mentioned that in a video I missed, but, I definitely have situations where I swing a couple mph faster or slower depending on the shaft in a club. Many years ago, I played the PING I-10s with the AWT shaft, and I liked the feel of them at the time, but, they were not a great fit for me swing speed wise.
Hi harvok47, just wanted to see why you were blended on all 3 MP heads, as they all have very different (in players head terms) places on the face where strike is most efficient or at least definitely places on the face where strike is more forgiving. Usually the Blades are blended with HMB as MMC has a distinct misshit forgiveness from toe shots due to the tungsten insert in the toe. The blades and HMB (with tungsten both sides of middle) have quite different effectiveness from those misses.... Not normally something I've seen, or ever fitted to be fair.... 👍
Great head to head! With your $ what would you choose ?
Playing off a 2.4 handicap mostly due to a great short game, especially putting, my iron ball striking could use help on mishits especially toe hits so these might be a better option for me instead of Ping i210’s... Having said that, I Would like to see a head to head of the i210’s to JPX Forged or MP-20 MMC (which ever you think is the better match up against the i210’s)
Toe biased I would stick with the JPX921, probably Forged in the 7 or 8 to PW then 5 and 6 in HM Pro 👍
That's only my opinion when I haven't even seen you swing etc but I'm assuming I wouldn't be too far off.... 😊
@@AskGolfNut thanks for the advice Jay! Unfortunately my custom fit won’t be until spring 2022. I have bone on bone arthritis in my left hip and it’s getting worse day by day. Been going for PT and plan on getting hip replacement surgery later this year in November/December.
Graphite shafts will be my pick, coming off rotator cuff surgery in December 2019 will need less shock and vibration to my shoulder.
In 2017 I was custom fit for JPX 900 Forged, I wasn’t crazy about the feel with Boron nor the finish. In fact the grooves on the 8 iron collapsed after only about 20 rounds ! The finish became blemished and kind of dirty looking.
I know the JPX 921 forged have Chromoloy as do the HM pro’s so this wouldn’t be an issue with feel nor finish.
One of the reasons I would lean towards Ping is the Hydro Pearl finish in the irons and wedges. I’ve seen the amazing wet spin retention on the Glide 3.0’s so that maybe a deal breaker
I’m definitely going to compare the i210’s comboed with either i500’s or G425’s against the JPX 921 Forged comboed with HM Pro’s and will go with the clubs that give me the best numbers and look/feel !!
Outstanding presentation keep up the good work, you can lose the rap.
Thanks MJ for the kind feedback 👍 lose the rap??...
With the G425, Hot Metal, and Hot Metal Pro all being so close in most #'s, how do the stock and stock up charge shafts compare between them? Does one have more or better options?
By far Mizuno have a more comprehensive range of shafts of which 99% of them are optional at no upcharge. Ping however offer a smaller range and a greater percentage of them may incur additional costs.
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
Nice comparison. Can you do a video on G425 vs MP20 HMB?
Could do JD but they are 2 different irons directed at different markets. Not sure how many people will be looking at testing these 2 in particular. HMB would normally be up against something like the i500.
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍
@@AskGolfNut HMB / 770 would be fair but for Ping i500 / HMB maybe closer. JPX 921 Forged / i210 ?
I’ve been playing for 4 months is it worth me getting fitted for irons yet ? Like the look of hotmetal 921
Hi Jordan, in most cases higher handicap golfers can benefit from custom fitting just as much and in a lot of cases more than better players. There are many aspects as to why which would be extremely lengthy over youtube comment but going somewhere trustworthy, that uses head measuring data that also coaches uses it and also somewhere that doesn't make commission from any potential sales to guarantee bias of information against selling etc.... Just a few to look out for 👍
@@AskGolfNut thanks for the reply ! I’ve had a lesson and Intend to have more too! I’m 6ft 3 so didn’t want to start learning and working my swing around clubs that aren’t right for me that’s why I want to get fitted and I really like the look/review on the hot metal 921 irons
Very good choice of range of club for someone who's just started, will work for you going forward until you want/require something different. Make sure when you get fitted that any swing faults are monitored / diagnosed and explained as to what adjustments can and should be made to your new fitted set depending on the delivery angles that need addressing in your future lessons 👍 make sure your set can work ok now but work better and better as the swing work improves 👍
Are you still doing the percentage ball speed on various parts of the face location hit?
Definitely but to give that level of data I need a large dataset of multiple people hitting it. Because of lockdown only I have had the opportunity to hit it so it wouldn't be fair or appropriate for me to cast a judgement on a clubs forgiveness with such a small dataset to go by. 👍
Hit both
G425 for me
And you're not wrong for choosing it, great iron 👍
My g425s ship 3-15