The question wasnt whether the clones had souls but rather the monsters in society like these two women and others who craft and implement such demonic practices like this and try to "normalize " it!
If you notice, madame is in a wheel chair in a world where disease is cured by using up the clones. She forwent those cures and treatments because she didn't want to participate in that evil.
They don’t have any chance out in society because they were never taught how to live amongst “normal people” - there’s a scene where they are in a cafe, terrified to even order food. They have no idea how to do anything like buy food, get an ID, find a place to live, and if anyone found out that they were a clone then they would be shunned, as stated in this scene they aren’t considered people. They could probably have run away to the countryside and lived together alone, but there’s also the element of how as children they were told that the donations were their obligation and they MUST go through with it. They only had the confidence to ask for more time, as not donating didn’t even occur to them. They are too mentally imprisoned as well as socially indoctrinated to go against the grain and live and love. That’s part of the tragedy.
I'm not heartless here and i cried and my heart broke watching this BUT: She has a car... why dont they simply leave that life to start a new one elsewhere? Or am i missing the complication somewhere?
They can’t , they have no human right , no rights at all . The author briefly touched on the subject but essentially. These “clones” are legally viewed as cattle - animal and what to you do when unstable cattle or bobcat escapes- you shot it . They have no formal education apart from the minuscule education from Hailsham. They have no money , no means of survival , no support from any normal people . The normal people also fear the clones. Them running away would be considered enough evidence to brutally terminate them . The reason Hailsham was closed down is because there was an a man who experiment on clones in an attempt to create genetically engineered superior clones . Leading to complete destruction of Miss Emily movement . The once open support for the wellbeing of the clones has been completely shattered. There’s a strong fear for an “plant of the ape / terminator sernorio “ In the end Kathy isn’t just the last Hailsham student but also the last clone raised with humanity. The clones created after Kathy will never experience a semblance of her life . The reason Madam cried and why the whole movie is called “never let me go “ is because Madam imagined Kathy trying to hold on to an older kinder world, but one that could never come back. Madam from the beginning knew the kids had souls , love but that the world would never let them go and just let them be
1. They are conditioned to have absolutely no idea of how to escape. 2. In the book they are on an Island. 3. They probably are tracked. As in have tracking devices. They are all completely institionalised. The ones at Hailsham are in a school like setting. But they aren't taught much. The other clones were brought up in appalling conditions. Which makes no sense as that could make them ill and die. The whole thing is not possible and makes zero sense in any world. It's a metaphor for our own world. And the atrocities that go on. Where would Kathy go. She's in a society where she is a spare part and no one that she has ever known thinks any different.
It makes no sense. How can donars stop cancer and disease People are still gonna die even with the donations.. I know the point was it was so horrible yet this sort of shit exists.
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This is one of the most heartbreaking movies I have ever watched. Tommy’s scream a few minutes later barely outranks this moment.
The irony is - in this moment the clones are more human than humans, as they grapple with their own mortality
Carey Mulligan is quietly brilliant in this scene.
She is my favorite actress
The question wasnt whether the clones had souls but rather the monsters in society like these two women and others who craft and implement such demonic practices like this and try to "normalize " it!
If you notice, madame is in a wheel chair in a world where disease is cured by using up the clones. She forwent those cures and treatments because she didn't want to participate in that evil.
I still wish a happy ending after saw this... stupid me
Same….
Why didn’t they try to run away
They don’t have any chance out in society because they were never taught how to live amongst “normal people” - there’s a scene where they are in a cafe, terrified to even order food. They have no idea how to do anything like buy food, get an ID, find a place to live, and if anyone found out that they were a clone then they would be shunned, as stated in this scene they aren’t considered people. They could probably have run away to the countryside and lived together alone, but there’s also the element of how as children they were told that the donations were their obligation and they MUST go through with it. They only had the confidence to ask for more time, as not donating didn’t even occur to them. They are too mentally imprisoned as well as socially indoctrinated to go against the grain and live and love. That’s part of the tragedy.
I'm not heartless here and i cried and my heart broke watching this BUT: She has a car... why dont they simply leave that life to start a new one elsewhere? Or am i missing the complication somewhere?
They’re socially indoctrinated.
They can’t , they have no human right , no rights at all . The author briefly touched on the subject but essentially. These “clones” are legally viewed as cattle - animal and what to you do when unstable cattle or bobcat escapes- you shot it .
They have no formal education apart from the minuscule education from Hailsham. They have no money , no means of survival , no support from any normal people . The normal people also fear the clones.
Them running away would be considered enough evidence to brutally terminate them .
The reason Hailsham was closed down is because there was an a man who experiment on clones in an attempt to create genetically engineered superior clones .
Leading to complete destruction of Miss Emily movement . The once open support for the wellbeing of the clones has been completely shattered.
There’s a strong fear for an “plant of the ape / terminator sernorio “
In the end Kathy isn’t just the last Hailsham student but also the last clone raised with humanity.
The clones created after Kathy will never experience a semblance of her life . The reason Madam cried and why the whole movie is called “never let me go “ is because Madam imagined Kathy trying to hold on to an older kinder world, but one that could never come back. Madam from the beginning knew the kids had souls , love but that the world would never let them go and just let them be
1. They are conditioned to have absolutely no idea of how to escape.
2. In the book they are on an Island.
3. They probably are tracked. As in have tracking devices.
They are all completely institionalised. The ones at Hailsham are in a school like setting. But they aren't taught much.
The other clones were brought up in appalling conditions. Which makes no sense as that could make them ill and die.
The whole thing is not possible and makes zero sense in any world.
It's a metaphor for our own world. And the atrocities that go on.
Where would Kathy go. She's in a society where she is a spare part and no one that she has ever known thinks any different.
how come the human woman is getting old and sick if humans are meant to be immortal
I assumed she did not want to use the cloning and donating system.
not immortal. it says the lifespan has been extended beyond one hundred years.
It makes no sense. How can donars stop cancer and disease People are still gonna die even with the donations..
I know the point was it was so horrible yet this sort of shit exists.