I always took the “pick up your aunt” as being more about her safety and not walking home alone while it’s dark after her shift. Ben’s more upset about it than May is because it’s his job to protect her as her husband and he thought Pete would take that responsibility as seriously as he does. But when he doesn’t is when he’s really set off. To me it made sense that May wouldn’t be too upset because it’s not really a huge deal, she probably wouldn’t have gotten mugged/attacked on the walk back so it’s fuss over nothing. But it’s the principle of it, the fact he told Ben he understood and would get it done and didn’t. He wasn’t responsible
Yeah, as a woman, I’m surprised that he didn’t get it. They live in New York a city with very bad crime. Ben doesn’t want his wife to be walking home alone.
@@HirstMoviesi assume its just privilege. He’s a man he doesnt have to worry about that stuff really. Most men dont get it until they become husbands or fathers of daughters 🤣
3:16 People forget that Peter is actually quite handsome he just has the Superman thing where he wears glasses,has bad posture,and acts like a nerd. Anytime he actually puts on nice clothes and puts some confidence in his voice women are falling over him because yeah,he’s hot! HE just doesn’t know/care that much
That's just it, Peter is supposed to act like a nerd with bad posture, NOT ride a skateboard on the middle of the school and be a cool kid. Garfield's Peter is the cool kid with whacky cool kid hair. There's nothing nerdy about him at all.
I agree with you that Amazing Spider-Man 1 was kinda good. It was a little rough and would've benefitted from keeping a number of deleted scenes, but it was a promising start. Amazing Spider-Man 2, though, is four of the most disjointed movies I've ever seen.
Tasm one has a lot of scenes deleted but TASM 2 felt more disjointed since it have more scenes that was cut and things that got changed. Like Mary Jane has scenes in the movie and the time where Peter quit as Spider man was supposed to be much longer.
This is so wrong. TASM1 was good you clearly just didn't pay attention or get it at all. For TASM2 is was a great movie and wasn't disjoined you just didn't understand a thing you were watching.
@@choppyhakusho I like the tasm movies, but I am aware of its flaws lol. Like I was keeping up with news when TAsm 2 was being made and it was pretty well known that Mary Jane was supposed to be like a a character in the movie. and Most known movies to have cut a relatively big amount of stuff can be felt through the final cut of the movie. A lot of DC movies are a testament to that where a lot of the flaws the dc movies have most stem from the stuff they cut
Ultimate comics Peter: well if my father knew so much then where is he (runs away) Tasm: that's great so where is he where is he where's my dad These movies take some inspiration from the ultimate comics such as this conversation about his father abd responsibility
They also partially adapt Ben's speech from the Ultimate comics, as he says "You father had a philosophy that he geld to pretty strongly. And it's one that served him very, very well." It's not a one-to-one adaptation, but neither were the MCU movies releasing at the same time, which were based on the same universe of comics.
@@TheDuckOfManyThings yep and Peter responds just like in amazing Spider-Man movie well if my father knew so much then where is he people seen to not know that both tasm 1&2 take inspiration from the ultimate comics
Since u pointed out the correct quote I do wanna say that I’m so tired of movies and shows making Spider-Man look dumb by having others tell him that with great power comes great responsibility when the panel that quote comes from is showing that he learned that lesson himself and nobody actually says it it’s the narrator saying it
i think electros first fight with spider-man was very interesting because of the voices in his head that show the audience what max was thinking and why he turned on spider-man
It subtlety shows how pete knew connor was in the sewer. He sees a trail of lizards coming out of the sewer and his spider sense goes off after he tries to warn captain stacy of connors being the lizard. I loved the first ASM. I know this film up and down. Lizard was originally supposed to have a snout, by the way.
@@ZestyyMP4 Love bro as you can see I like TASM a little lol Best scene in the movie goes to Aunt May "Take off the damn hood and look at me" awww gets me every time. Can't wait for Tom's movies.
they cut so many scenes and yet infinity war and endgame got to be nearly 3 hours... not a diss to those movies but you get my point edit: 53:40 time out cuz i see this complaint a lot. OSCORP is not just an agency for medicinal science it's a military weapons manufacturer so in the grand scheme of things, it makes sense for them to have the rhino suit- basically OSCORP is to the spider-man universes (minus MCU) what Stark Industries is to the MCU
Sadly a lot of comic book movies were subjected to being cut down to fit a runtime . Despite Infinity War and Endgame eneing up being as longh as they are its still hard for Marvel to convince execs to let them have longer runtime. Cause Money
Yeah I'm aware of that. I was just saying my initial comment as a little joke. I know the spider man movies didn't have nearly as much budget as infinity war and endgame so therefore shorter run times. Plus the fact Sony was a bit iffy with Andrew at the time is why I choose to think of it as a little f- you to him. Still could've been great if they kept at least some of the deleted scenes in so some things would make more sense. Connors comes off as one dimensional, Peter tailing him into the sewers doesn't make as much sense, and Harry goes from weepy to one dimensional killer man without some of those scenes
@@weslovett7186 agreed. I’m a tasm hater in a way I’ve always disliked them more so the 2 one😭even as a kid I hated it and as a kid I loved almost any superhero movie. I haven’t gone back to rewatch tasm1 tho might have to give a fair shot.
to be honest i kinda like how they did the great responsibility scene because it sounds like hes rambling like i feel like thats how my dad would talk to me when things are a bit tense and hes frustrated and concerned. it just feels very real to me
idk i think Uncle Ben dying making sure a robber doesn't hurt nobody is ight plus I love the speech he gives I think Aunt May and Uncle Ben are better in these films looking back Tobey Uncle Ben was dry it was iconic but dry and martin sheen has an amazing performance and feels like an older hardworking man in modern new york whos trying to raise a kid who isn't his versus low key I'm barely you uncle just don't beat up your bully uncle.
I rewatched The Amazing Spider-Man movies a few months back and genuinely fell in love with the first one all over again there are so many things i love about it that simply just aren't quiet there in the tom holland movies and are completely missed in the Tobey Maguire movies such as the character writing costume design and acting, even the music like you said in the video was just so beautiful and felt so inspirational and powerful. The second movie however, i have to agree with you it was just bad not even as a Spider-Man movie but just as a movie in general it had so many moments that were amazing, like Gwen's death. That will scene will always break my heart to watch, but then the villain and the when it comes to the tone and vibe of the movie, and the kinda unnecessary parts with Peter's fathers history. The movie simply took on too much and i wish the team had more time to refine it and make it right because it had so much potential and the director and the cast all deserved to finish the story that they were telling about Peter's family, if only Sony had not butted in and tried to throw in more than the story needed.
i mean uncle ben as a character, no matter the iteration, would nearly *never* mind his business, given that’s HIS responsibility, the same one he sees fit for peter to follow. also the point of the milk scene goes exactly with the same idea that the og had, where even if the cashier asking is silly, it’s not him who gets to peter- it’s peter himself. he absolutely, in any scenario, could have and should have stopped the guy robbing the store, even if the cashier was a dick. but because peter ignored ben’s advice and acted selfishly, he lost his life over a measly two cents. that’s the entire point, to show how peter’s rebellion and petty actions at that point, even over milk, even over something so minuscule, could destroy him, given the fact that he didn’t accept the necessary responsibility he should have.
Uncle ben didnt mind his business in the raimi films either. In the SM3 Flashback he tried to talk Flint marko out of stealing his car at gun point instead of him just letting flint take it. The mugger bumps into flint and the gun goes off on Uncle Ben. Uncle ben doesn't know when to mind his business in any verse.😂
@MadDogSolo the overall theme is uncle been either aggressively or passively intrudes on Peter's life. Pete is guilt ridden by Ben's final words, especially in the raimi movies. In Amazing he understands he was rough on peter but gives him words of encouragement on the recording. In the raimi movies, Uncle Ben tries to intrude on Peter's whereabouts and tries to give him unwarrented advice. Follows him around after pete said he wanted space and got himself shot. Uncle Ben just can't mind his business. So Peter is guilt ridden because of Uncle Bens self-righteousness that got his ass shot and sends his surrogate son on a suicidal holy mission out of guilt. Pete doesn't actually want to be spider-man until the 3rd film, and it's still for the wrong reasons. He's got clout and the girl he always wanted. In amazing spider-man, he learns why he's spider-man thru the captain stacy argument during the dinner scene and the self-actualization after saving the kid on the bridge. It feels like Andrew's Spider-Man truly understands why he's spider-man over any film adaption.
4:58 The smile I had hearing that reference immediately faded when you followed up with how old of a reference it really is lmao 😂. That lil ginger kid was a menace in that movie, str8 up wrote his victims names on his shirt💀💀
The deleted Max Dillian scene where we see his sick mother would have helped to understand a little bit more about his character and what he is going through.
Hey there, so about the rhino suit, oscorp made it cause they were developing a sinister 6 movie, and what was going on is they were playing into characters. Hence why at the end of the movie harry orders the hat man to start with the rhino
This video is funny, but I always preferred the first TASM suit. Cause he made that suit out of anger and revenge. And that Spider logo in front is so badass on how it blends with the webbings
This version of spiderman is my favourite as i love how realistic it is, i love the suit design, i love the little conversations he has with people and i love that he isnt a nerd but just a regular kid
There's something interesting I've found out about gaming in regards to the 1995-2014 time span. If the common consensus is the game is bad, it probably isn't. In fact they usually tend to be quite great. Especially the 2005-2012 period, if you hear a game being called bad in that era it's such a green flag, it literally has the opposite effect, games end up being mega fun.
16:23 Bruh, I don't have a problem with this. The Phrase also gets enlarged In the Ultimate Spider-Man comic and Nobody complained there...the only difference is that Peter wasn't being Assaulted By Lizz at a Party
Good video man. But sheesh.. calling tobey emotionless is wild 😂 the uncle Ben death scene in sm1, the “I missed him today” scene in sm2.. the scene where Harry dies in sm3..
I find it funny that the concept of vigilante justice in media is something the fictional citizens can’t get behind even tho the level of criminality in comic related stories is starkly more undesirable than a random guy effectively cleaning the streets …irl we’d all love to see that 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Loving the vid but bro u didn’t just say that oscorp built the web fluid when real life scientists study and work on spider silk 😭 they were probably trynna create a stronger type of silk which is what scientists hv been trying to do for a while now
I recently rewatched the first one a few days back, and gotta say I enjoyed it a lot more than I recall in the past. Andrews take on peter had a bit of of that sciency genius take more than toby's portrayal. Andrews spider man also gave some "marvels spider man" kind of of vibes, bit of that aura from the games imo.
The worker coming back with all his favors is deus ex machina done right, it’s silly and kind of an asspull, but it’s also heartwarming and works to develop Peter AND a side character
12:15 i meaaan, peter is suddenly overwhelmed with heightened senses on top of spider sense and an enhanced metabolism On top of that the train scenes editing was done to depict his spider sense as a reaction of his body.
2:07 to be fair to him, he struggled a lot with the accent in Doctor Who with Daleks in Manhattan. Also, he's not the only one who struggled with an Americanized accent. Mark Sheppard struggled a lot in The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon. Accents are hard to maintain especially if you're not used to using them and I imagine that could also result in overexaggerating an accent. Another case I'd argue is Tara Strong's Harley Quinn accent. It's only slightly higher pitched than Arleen Sorkin's but it's noticeable I'm not an expert in any of this tbh
Being apart of the younger people who was born in the 2010s since I’m younger I do give these movies more props than normally given because I’m just now seeing them. These movies are very good I prefer them over the newer ones the style, graphics, story is all what I like about these movies.
TASM 1 is my favorite spiderman origin movie, its also extremely cinematic and flashy, both Spiderman 1 and Homecoming feel flat compared to it imo, you can tell its a product of the early 2010s. I love it.
Imagine the absolute terror the people inside the building must be feeling when seeing a guy just literally land and fucking stick to a window a hundred feet in the air😭 23:12
Dude what if he was on the plane with his parents and then became Iron fist and then came back and became spiderman too. Goated version of spiderman honestly
13:40 yeah it’s not bad writing you just didn’t pay attention 😂😂. After peter forgets to pick up may, Uncle Ben says “ May had to walk all alone back home” obviously implying that it’s dangerous for her to be out without someone else( self explanatory). So yeah, Peter has to “pick her up” because anyone who’d want to do anything to may would see Peter was there. Gives her a sense of protection.
Uncle ben getting upset over Peter is because of safety reasons like he said May had to walk 12 blocks at night alone when Peter was supposed to be there with her. This why he brings up responsibility
I wish they had brought Paul Giamatti in as Rhino again in the multiverse movie Maybe eventually they’ll do more with Garfield and have him show up Could be cool if an accident led to him getting combined with the machine
When I first saw them they became my favorite. AG is goat SP. The chemistry with Gwen. In the 2nd one the CGI, the action scenes, the suit, the swinging scenes, everything looked good and it was a good mindless superhero movie. Yeah the plot was over stuffed and all over but it was a fun movie. TASM 1 and 2 are my favorites still
There were definitely some odd choices in regards to the script, specially with the villains (I'm looking at you, Goblin), but these two movies have heart. The endings to both movies still make me tear up to this day. The first one with Ben's voicemail to Peter talking about how Peter has the potential to do great things for the world, and the second one with Peter finding the inner strength to continue being Spider-Man after the tragic loss of the love of his life. These movies were something else. I just wish that Sony's greedy ass didn't interfere with Marc Webb's vision, otherwise we could've gotten a Spidey trilogy superior to Sam Raimi's.
I always liked the TASM films, the first is my favourite just because I really like Lizard and Denis Leary is fantastic as Gwen's father and the darker tone worked for me. The sequel is a fun watch, Garfield's costume is the best live action suit in my opinion, the romance was believable and it left me wanting more after Gwen's tragic death.
Honestly, as an English Lit Major, I have zero problem with how Electro is portrayed. Sure, his dialogue is cringey, but to me that just harkens back to his "incel" aesthetic. To me, he doesn't need some deep reason behind why he's a villain. It's like he's your average creepy stalker incel who's just weird enough that you want to feel bad for him and try to be his friend, but you feel freaked out anytime you're around him. The kind of incel who fantasizes about murdering the person they're obsessed with if they don't get the attention they want. Bro just got the power to make all his fantasies come true. That's a very real thing. Sure, they definitely could've worked Harry's stuff a lot better, but Electro was pretty good in my opinion. Personally, if I were to attempt to fix the script, I would have cut the Harry Green Goblin aspect from the movie. Keep the Harry stuff as a way to link into Electro, but just remove the obvious Harry Green Goblin stuff. Have Spidey TRY to help Harry, but it fails. Cut the stuff with Peter's dad because that didn't really go anywhere anyway (I think it was supposed to help explain why Peter didn't want/couldn't help Harry, but it just feels way too out of place and, as you said, kinda kills the idea that *anyone* could've become Spider-Man, Peter wasn't special in that aspect). So Harry, needing to lash out and wanting someone to blame decides to blame Spider-Man for the failure of assistance. He gets removed from the company, but before they can wipe him from the servers or whatever, he lets Electro free with the request that Electro kills A) the guy who got him kicked out of the company and B) Spider-Man and anyone Spider-Man loves. Electro (without Harry traveling behind him like a lost puppy) does first thing easy. He then draws Spidey's attention with the power grid. And here is where it could go one of two ways: Option A: Fight proceeds as normal. Gwen arrives and Electro grabs Gwen. Fight ensues. Gwen dies as in the movie (Maybe the fight had naturally moved to the clocktower for the beautiful imagery and message about time). Spidey uses Gwen's idea to take down Electro. After all is said and done, Harry is approached by mysterious man who offers to help heal him and hints towards Sinister 6. Option B: Everything with Electro happens as in the movie. Exactly as it is. Everything seems chill. And then, without warning, a Green Goblin appears. We don't get to see WHO the Green Goblin is (Because I'd recommend some mask to hide the identity). Gwen kidnapped. Clock tower fight ensues. Gwen dies. Goblin mask cracked to show a flash of Harry under the mask. Spider-Man confused and heart broken twice over. Lost his girlfriend from his failure and has apparently been completely betrayed by his friend without knowing why. Then either Spider-Man taking him down so he can be arrested or Goblin getting away while he's left stunned. Then, instead of the guy asking Harry to join the Sinister Six, have him instead make a comment about why he didn't go further with his revenge. Harry can make some comment about "He suffers more this way" or just remain silent and look conflicted (Suggesting that it clicked to Harry that Spider-Man = Peter Parker after Gwen died and he hadn't yet gone full villain. He wanted to punish Spider-Man, not his friend). Rest of the movie ends the same. This keeps the main villain focus on Electro. Green Goblin is a "bonus" round at the end of the movie, but not really expanded upon. This could've opened the door for the non-existent but originally planned TASM3 movie to either focus on Green Goblin as the main villain or kept Green Goblin as this ultimate showdown villain for later down the line (Assuming the movies continued to make money and Sony kept making them). Like, you can have multiple villains in one movie, but the focus needs to be on ONE of the villains. Into the Spiderverse did that excellently where it had Doc Oc, Kingpin, and the Prowler as their three big villains but the focus remained on Kingpin. We only really understood the Prowler as Uncle Aaron, but got no motivations or anything for him. This could've worked with Green Goblin in TASM2 where we only really see Harry. Sony just tried to focus on too much in too short of a runtime. Or maybe it was all intentional to fit in with the theme of not having enough time and this was their way of making us feel as rushed as Spidey. Who knows?
i feel tasm 1 and 2 were overshadowed by the first trialgy because of nostalgia then it was overshadowed by the next trialgy because it was part of the mcu.
"Tobey is emotionless" possibly the most incorrect statement out of all incorrect statements to ever be wrong. Spiderman 2 just does not exist to this dude according to that statement
@@theoutsiderjess1869 Agreed. I rewatched the Tobey movies not that long ago, and there was a scene with Aunt May where she showed with her face and her voice her emotions (I think it was something about Uncle Ben) and Tobey had the blankest stare. He might have had the best written stories, but he wasn't the best actor
@@mbbgraphics1587You are lying. Uncle Ben’s death and Harry’s death work because Tobey gave good crying in those scenes. People make fun of Tobey’s crying out of context a lot. People hate on Tobey because he acts dorky and has a baby face.
the first amazing spider man is a nice popcorn film, all around solid, I’d give it a 7/10. The second, however, is seriously a disaster. Way too much happening, Spider-Man is too goofy and frequent with his jokes for my liking, all the villains are ass, Gwen died for no reason (could’ve just left like he warned her), etc… don’t even know what id rate AS2, but I know it’s by FAR the weakest of all spider man movies ever created.
I grew up with toby, but spidey 3 killed it for me. Tasm 1&2 made me love spidey again. Those have been my favorite ones since day 1. I care nothing at all about mcu spiderman. Only saw no way home for toby and andrew
I always took the “pick up your aunt” as being more about her safety and not walking home alone while it’s dark after her shift. Ben’s more upset about it than May is because it’s his job to protect her as her husband and he thought Pete would take that responsibility as seriously as he does. But when he doesn’t is when he’s really set off. To me it made sense that May wouldn’t be too upset because it’s not really a huge deal, she probably wouldn’t have gotten mugged/attacked on the walk back so it’s fuss over nothing. But it’s the principle of it, the fact he told Ben he understood and would get it done and didn’t. He wasn’t responsible
EXACTLY. was just about to comment this
Yeah, as a woman, I’m surprised that he didn’t get it. They live in New York a city with very bad crime. Ben doesn’t want his wife to be walking home alone.
@@Futurebound_jpg clearly he didn’t think this through or is just plain ignorant
@@HirstMoviesi assume its just privilege. He’s a man he doesnt have to worry about that stuff really. Most men dont get it until they become husbands or fathers of daughters 🤣
This exactly
I like to call this the 'Megamind Effect' when a movie is really good but wasn't made in the right time to be appreciated
"from incel to duracel" was a good line, ironically you signposted the joke the same way you were complaining about in some of spidey's quips
True, not even I am not safe from my own criticism 😅
3:16 People forget that Peter is actually quite handsome he just has the Superman thing where he wears glasses,has bad posture,and acts like a nerd. Anytime he actually puts on nice clothes and puts some confidence in his voice women are falling over him because yeah,he’s hot! HE just doesn’t know/care that much
That's just it, Peter is supposed to act like a nerd with bad posture, NOT ride a skateboard on the middle of the school and be a cool kid. Garfield's Peter is the cool kid with whacky cool kid hair. There's nothing nerdy about him at all.
I agree with you that Amazing Spider-Man 1 was kinda good. It was a little rough and would've benefitted from keeping a number of deleted scenes, but it was a promising start.
Amazing Spider-Man 2, though, is four of the most disjointed movies I've ever seen.
Tasm one has a lot of scenes deleted but TASM 2 felt more disjointed since it have more scenes that was cut and things that got changed. Like Mary Jane has scenes in the movie and the time where Peter quit as Spider man was supposed to be much longer.
This is so wrong. TASM1 was good you clearly just didn't pay attention or get it at all.
For TASM2 is was a great movie and wasn't disjoined you just didn't understand a thing you were watching.
@@Snzn_7 TASM2 isn't disjointed. You just don't understand the movie.
@@choppyhakusho I like the tasm movies, but I am aware of its flaws lol. Like I was keeping up with news when TAsm 2 was being made and it was pretty well known that Mary Jane was supposed to be like a a character in the movie. and Most known movies to have cut a relatively big amount of stuff can be felt through the final cut of the movie. A lot of DC movies are a testament to that where a lot of the flaws the dc movies have most stem from the stuff they cut
James horner ridiculously KILLED the scoring for this movie. This score is way too slept on. And hanz zimmer score for the 2nd was ALSO incredible.
The random sound effects horner add in scenes cracked me up so much.
Ultimate comics
Peter: well if my father knew so much then where is he (runs away)
Tasm: that's great so where is he where is he where's my dad
These movies take some inspiration from the ultimate comics such as this conversation about his father abd responsibility
They also partially adapt Ben's speech from the Ultimate comics, as he says "You father had a philosophy that he geld to pretty strongly. And it's one that served him very, very well." It's not a one-to-one adaptation, but neither were the MCU movies releasing at the same time, which were based on the same universe of comics.
@@TheDuckOfManyThings yep and Peter responds just like in amazing Spider-Man movie well if my father knew so much then where is he people seen to not know that both tasm 1&2 take inspiration from the ultimate comics
Since u pointed out the correct quote I do wanna say that I’m so tired of movies and shows making Spider-Man look dumb by having others tell him that with great power comes great responsibility when the panel that quote comes from is showing that he learned that lesson himself and nobody actually says it it’s the narrator saying it
i think electros first fight with spider-man was very interesting because of the voices in his head that show the audience what max was thinking and why he turned on spider-man
It subtlety shows how pete knew connor was in the sewer. He sees a trail of lizards coming out of the sewer and his spider sense goes off after he tries to warn captain stacy of connors being the lizard. I loved the first ASM. I know this film up and down. Lizard was originally supposed to have a snout, by the way.
God why didn’t he, literally the worst part of the movie was his stupid face😭😭😭
finally THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUU. someone with an actual take that doesnt just shit on TASM
I don't think he solved the decay rate algorithm I think he just memorized the equation from his Dad's briefcase full of junk.
Exactly!
And even then there were some typos if you look at it close enough.
To be fair Peter traveling like a mf is in character he didn’t play sports before the bite, didn’t play after.
There is some comics where he did play sports tho
If the credits would have rolled after Peter was at Gwen's grave and have the post credit scene be the Aunt May kitchen scene. Cherry on top
Actually a really good idea
@@ZestyyMP4 Love bro as you can see I like TASM a little lol
Best scene in the movie goes to Aunt May "Take off the damn hood and look at me" awww gets me every time. Can't wait for Tom's movies.
they cut so many scenes and yet infinity war and endgame got to be nearly 3 hours... not a diss to those movies but you get my point
edit: 53:40 time out cuz i see this complaint a lot. OSCORP is not just an agency for medicinal science it's a military weapons manufacturer so in the grand scheme of things, it makes sense for them to have the rhino suit- basically OSCORP is to the spider-man universes (minus MCU) what Stark Industries is to the MCU
Sadly a lot of comic book movies were subjected to being cut down to fit a runtime . Despite Infinity War and Endgame eneing up being as longh as they are its still hard for Marvel to convince execs to let them have longer runtime. Cause Money
Also spider man is owned by Sony so they were the ones who didn’t make it 3 hours not marvel.
Yeah I'm aware of that. I was just saying my initial comment as a little joke. I know the spider man movies didn't have nearly as much budget as infinity war and endgame so therefore shorter run times. Plus the fact Sony was a bit iffy with Andrew at the time is why I choose to think of it as a little f- you to him. Still could've been great if they kept at least some of the deleted scenes in so some things would make more sense. Connors comes off as one dimensional, Peter tailing him into the sewers doesn't make as much sense, and Harry goes from weepy to one dimensional killer man without some of those scenes
@@weslovett7186 agreed. I’m a tasm hater in a way I’ve always disliked them more so the 2 one😭even as a kid I hated it and as a kid I loved almost any superhero movie. I haven’t gone back to rewatch tasm1 tho might have to give a fair shot.
When Peter was evading the bullets the cop almost shot the car theft in the face
TASM2 is paradoxically both the best and worst live-action Spider-Man movie, which I always found impressive.
my dad left a briefcase. That's all i got, a briefcase full of junk.😢
Whateva idk I try not to thinkabadit 😔
@@ZestyyMP4this made me lol
to be honest i kinda like how they did the great responsibility scene because it sounds like hes rambling like i feel like thats how my dad would talk to me when things are a bit tense and hes frustrated and concerned. it just feels very real to me
idk i think Uncle Ben dying making sure a robber doesn't hurt nobody is ight plus I love the speech he gives I think Aunt May and Uncle Ben are better in these films looking back Tobey Uncle Ben was dry it was iconic but dry and martin sheen has an amazing performance and feels like an older hardworking man in modern new york whos trying to raise a kid who isn't his versus low key I'm barely you uncle just don't beat up your bully uncle.
I rewatched The Amazing Spider-Man movies a few months back and genuinely fell in love with the first one all over again there are so many things i love about it that simply just aren't quiet there in the tom holland movies and are completely missed in the Tobey Maguire movies such as the character writing costume design and acting, even the music like you said in the video was just so beautiful and felt so inspirational and powerful.
The second movie however, i have to agree with you it was just bad not even as a Spider-Man movie but just as a movie in general it had so many moments that were amazing, like Gwen's death. That will scene will always break my heart to watch, but then the villain and the when it comes to the tone and vibe of the movie, and the kinda unnecessary parts with Peter's fathers history. The movie simply took on too much and i wish the team had more time to refine it and make it right because it had so much potential and the director and the cast all deserved to finish the story that they were telling about Peter's family, if only Sony had not butted in and tried to throw in more than the story needed.
i mean uncle ben as a character, no matter the iteration, would nearly *never* mind his business, given that’s HIS responsibility, the same one he sees fit for peter to follow. also the point of the milk scene goes exactly with the same idea that the og had, where even if the cashier asking is silly, it’s not him who gets to peter- it’s peter himself. he absolutely, in any scenario, could have and should have stopped the guy robbing the store, even if the cashier was a dick. but because peter ignored ben’s advice and acted selfishly, he lost his life over a measly two cents. that’s the entire point, to show how peter’s rebellion and petty actions at that point, even over milk, even over something so minuscule, could destroy him, given the fact that he didn’t accept the necessary responsibility he should have.
CHarcters being melodramatic in TASM2 is a sign it is directed by Mark Webb
Uncle ben didnt mind his business in the raimi films either. In the SM3 Flashback he tried to talk Flint marko out of stealing his car at gun point instead of him just letting flint take it. The mugger bumps into flint and the gun goes off on Uncle Ben. Uncle ben doesn't know when to mind his business in any verse.😂
Got a point there, only thing is that got added in 2 movies after he already died.
@MadDogSolo the overall theme is uncle been either aggressively or passively intrudes on Peter's life. Pete is guilt ridden by Ben's final words, especially in the raimi movies. In Amazing he understands he was rough on peter but gives him words of encouragement on the recording. In the raimi movies, Uncle Ben tries to intrude on Peter's whereabouts and tries to give him unwarrented advice. Follows him around after pete said he wanted space and got himself shot. Uncle Ben just can't mind his business. So Peter is guilt ridden because of Uncle Bens self-righteousness that got his ass shot and sends his surrogate son on a suicidal holy mission out of guilt. Pete doesn't actually want to be spider-man until the 3rd film, and it's still for the wrong reasons. He's got clout and the girl he always wanted. In amazing spider-man, he learns why he's spider-man thru the captain stacy argument during the dinner scene and the self-actualization after saving the kid on the bridge. It feels like Andrew's Spider-Man truly understands why he's spider-man over any film adaption.
damn the deleted scenes really could've saved the tasm movies💔
I adored ALL the spiderman movies and was always sad people hated these ones. They get so many things right, and most of all theyre FUN!!
4:58
The smile I had hearing that reference immediately faded when you followed up with how old of a reference it really is lmao 😂. That lil ginger kid was a menace in that movie, str8 up wrote his victims names on his shirt💀💀
I love this take on Peter. Stoner vibes
I love this take on you ❤
TOTAL stoner vibes, you’re right 😂
@@StonedPeter”Taaake ooon meee (Take, on, me) taaake meee OOON! (Take, on, me) I’LLLL BEEE GOONE! In a day or TWOOOO!”
Same Fatima
Your videos are lengthy and hilarious, loved every second of it (especially 22:30) 🤣
1:02:30 “Rejected fourth member of the Blue Men Group” is CRAZY 🤣
The deleted Max Dillian scene where we see his sick mother would have helped to understand a little bit more about his character and what he is going through.
Hey there, so about the rhino suit, oscorp made it cause they were developing a sinister 6 movie, and what was going on is they were playing into characters. Hence why at the end of the movie harry orders the hat man to start with the rhino
This video is funny, but I always preferred the first TASM suit. Cause he made that suit out of anger and revenge. And that Spider logo in front is so badass on how it blends with the webbings
No matter what the scene with the alarm clock always gets me
8:00 i do not think he thought they were notable enough to get news letters about their deaths
This version of spiderman is my favourite as i love how realistic it is, i love the suit design, i love the little conversations he has with people and i love that he isnt a nerd but just a regular kid
Oh I love these movies too! The Webb films alongside the Raimi trilogy cemented Spider-Man as my favourite superhero.
When I watched this I automatically assumed you had a large subscriber base because the quality was so good. 1.5k is criminal. I subbed
Remember everyone. Peter is "intelligent"
Not smart
You're going to love Spider-Man: Alone
I’ve always loved these movies, and I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one
Fire video, we really exposing all of Peter Parker’s biggest flaws and demons in this one 🔥🔥
There's something interesting I've found out about gaming in regards to the 1995-2014 time span.
If the common consensus is the game is bad, it probably isn't. In fact they usually tend to be quite great. Especially the 2005-2012 period, if you hear a game being called bad in that era it's such a green flag, it literally has the opposite effect, games end up being mega fun.
“Geekin off that web cartridge” 😂
Edit: “tweakin off that lizard serum” ??? 😂😂😂
16:23 Bruh, I don't have a problem with this. The Phrase also gets enlarged In the Ultimate Spider-Man comic and Nobody complained there...the only difference is that Peter wasn't being Assaulted By Lizz at a Party
Good video man. But sheesh.. calling tobey emotionless is wild 😂 the uncle Ben death scene in sm1, the “I missed him today” scene in sm2.. the scene where Harry dies in sm3..
fantano expanding the brand
I find it funny that the concept of vigilante justice in media is something the fictional citizens can’t get behind even tho the level of criminality in comic related stories is starkly more undesirable than a random guy effectively cleaning the streets …irl we’d all love to see that 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Andrew Garfield is my favourite Spider-Man
Loving the vid but bro u didn’t just say that oscorp built the web fluid when real life scientists study and work on spider silk 😭 they were probably trynna create a stronger type of silk which is what scientists hv been trying to do for a while now
I recently rewatched the first one a few days back, and gotta say I enjoyed it a lot more than I recall in the past. Andrews take on peter had a bit of of that sciency genius take more than toby's portrayal. Andrews spider man also gave some "marvels spider man" kind of of vibes, bit of that aura from the games imo.
36:29 yes there is a reason. Peter noticed small lizards going into the sewers, so he figures out that Connors might be doing that too
The worker coming back with all his favors is deus ex machina done right, it’s silly and kind of an asspull, but it’s also heartwarming and works to develop Peter AND a side character
Amazing video bro. Keep It Up!
I love the points made and criticisms. Amazing video, I’ve subscribed. Continue being authentic and never give into audience satisfaction!
another zestyy masterpiece! keep up the great work :)
12:15 i meaaan, peter is suddenly overwhelmed with heightened senses on top of spider sense and an enhanced metabolism
On top of that the train scenes editing was done to depict his spider sense as a reaction of his body.
Why does this man not have more subs
1:17:00 is legit the funniest and most relatable thing ever, I often have that exact same reaction after I hop off a 2 hour call with a friend lmao
30:16 he’s not lying that shit hit after he finished the sentence.
46:44 They wanted to match the tone of what was popular. The first movie with The Dark Knight and the second movie with The Avengers/MCU.
always as good to me as they were back then. i loved them, andrew is and always will be my favorite version of peter/spiderman
Andrew Garfield and Sean o mallei feel like brothers
Why is no one talking about the exclusive song from the neighborhood honest in the end titles?
I mean, this is a ridden gem.
2:07 to be fair to him, he struggled a lot with the accent in Doctor Who with Daleks in Manhattan.
Also, he's not the only one who struggled with an Americanized accent. Mark Sheppard struggled a lot in The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon.
Accents are hard to maintain especially if you're not used to using them and I imagine that could also result in overexaggerating an accent.
Another case I'd argue is Tara Strong's Harley Quinn accent. It's only slightly higher pitched than Arleen Sorkin's but it's noticeable
I'm not an expert in any of this tbh
Being apart of the younger people who was born in the 2010s since I’m younger I do give these movies more props than normally given because I’m just now seeing them. These movies are very good I prefer them over the newer ones the style, graphics, story is all what I like about these movies.
TASM 1 is my favorite spiderman origin movie, its also extremely cinematic and flashy, both Spiderman 1 and Homecoming feel flat compared to it imo, you can tell its a product of the early 2010s. I love it.
Imagine the absolute terror the people inside the building must be feeling when seeing a guy just literally land and fucking stick to a window a hundred feet in the air😭 23:12
Also Ben’s responsibility line is longer because they’re trying to not do the same thing as tobey, comics etc.
Loved the Video excited for the next one 💪
Checked out as soon as you called my boy Toby dull in the Raimi movies. Blasphemy!
Blud straight yapping on god yessir
This is a great channel
idk and idc why youtube keeps recommedning this vid ive seen it like 9 times alerady great vid 👌👌👌👌
Dude what if he was on the plane with his parents and then became Iron fist and then came back and became spiderman too. Goated version of spiderman honestly
Been saying they were good forever. Second one is a little messy, of course, but I still love ‘em
the "Super Senior" lmaooo
13:40 yeah it’s not bad writing you just didn’t pay attention 😂😂. After peter forgets to pick up may, Uncle Ben says “ May had to walk all alone back home” obviously implying that it’s dangerous for her to be out without someone else( self explanatory). So yeah, Peter has to “pick her up” because anyone who’d want to do anything to may would see Peter was there. Gives her a sense of protection.
That Duracell joke got me cackling 💀
Uncle ben getting upset over Peter is because of safety reasons like he said May had to walk 12 blocks at night alone when Peter was supposed to be there with her. This why he brings up responsibility
I wish they had brought Paul Giamatti in as Rhino again in the multiverse movie
Maybe eventually they’ll do more with Garfield and have him show up
Could be cool if an accident led to him getting combined with the machine
When I first saw them they became my favorite. AG is goat SP. The chemistry with Gwen. In the 2nd one the CGI, the action scenes, the suit, the swinging scenes, everything looked good and it was a good mindless superhero movie. Yeah the plot was over stuffed and all over but it was a fun movie. TASM 1 and 2 are my favorites still
There were definitely some odd choices in regards to the script, specially with the villains (I'm looking at you, Goblin), but these two movies have heart. The endings to both movies still make me tear up to this day. The first one with Ben's voicemail to Peter talking about how Peter has the potential to do great things for the world, and the second one with Peter finding the inner strength to continue being Spider-Man after the tragic loss of the love of his life. These movies were something else. I just wish that Sony's greedy ass didn't interfere with Marc Webb's vision, otherwise we could've gotten a Spidey trilogy superior to Sam Raimi's.
I believe I fixed most of this franchise's problems in my TASM fanfiction.
I always liked the TASM films, the first is my favourite just because I really like Lizard and Denis Leary is fantastic as Gwen's father and the darker tone worked for me. The sequel is a fun watch, Garfield's costume is the best live action suit in my opinion, the romance was believable and it left me wanting more after Gwen's tragic death.
2:40 omg bro, thank you. I thought cosmic’s take was so dumb. The point of spider man is that ANYBODY CAN BE SPIDER MAN. Even a cool wtvr tf he said.
Honestly, as an English Lit Major, I have zero problem with how Electro is portrayed. Sure, his dialogue is cringey, but to me that just harkens back to his "incel" aesthetic. To me, he doesn't need some deep reason behind why he's a villain. It's like he's your average creepy stalker incel who's just weird enough that you want to feel bad for him and try to be his friend, but you feel freaked out anytime you're around him. The kind of incel who fantasizes about murdering the person they're obsessed with if they don't get the attention they want. Bro just got the power to make all his fantasies come true. That's a very real thing. Sure, they definitely could've worked Harry's stuff a lot better, but Electro was pretty good in my opinion.
Personally, if I were to attempt to fix the script, I would have cut the Harry Green Goblin aspect from the movie. Keep the Harry stuff as a way to link into Electro, but just remove the obvious Harry Green Goblin stuff. Have Spidey TRY to help Harry, but it fails. Cut the stuff with Peter's dad because that didn't really go anywhere anyway (I think it was supposed to help explain why Peter didn't want/couldn't help Harry, but it just feels way too out of place and, as you said, kinda kills the idea that *anyone* could've become Spider-Man, Peter wasn't special in that aspect). So Harry, needing to lash out and wanting someone to blame decides to blame Spider-Man for the failure of assistance. He gets removed from the company, but before they can wipe him from the servers or whatever, he lets Electro free with the request that Electro kills A) the guy who got him kicked out of the company and B) Spider-Man and anyone Spider-Man loves. Electro (without Harry traveling behind him like a lost puppy) does first thing easy. He then draws Spidey's attention with the power grid.
And here is where it could go one of two ways:
Option A: Fight proceeds as normal. Gwen arrives and Electro grabs Gwen. Fight ensues. Gwen dies as in the movie (Maybe the fight had naturally moved to the clocktower for the beautiful imagery and message about time). Spidey uses Gwen's idea to take down Electro. After all is said and done, Harry is approached by mysterious man who offers to help heal him and hints towards Sinister 6.
Option B: Everything with Electro happens as in the movie. Exactly as it is. Everything seems chill. And then, without warning, a Green Goblin appears. We don't get to see WHO the Green Goblin is (Because I'd recommend some mask to hide the identity). Gwen kidnapped. Clock tower fight ensues. Gwen dies. Goblin mask cracked to show a flash of Harry under the mask. Spider-Man confused and heart broken twice over. Lost his girlfriend from his failure and has apparently been completely betrayed by his friend without knowing why. Then either Spider-Man taking him down so he can be arrested or Goblin getting away while he's left stunned. Then, instead of the guy asking Harry to join the Sinister Six, have him instead make a comment about why he didn't go further with his revenge. Harry can make some comment about "He suffers more this way" or just remain silent and look conflicted (Suggesting that it clicked to Harry that Spider-Man = Peter Parker after Gwen died and he hadn't yet gone full villain. He wanted to punish Spider-Man, not his friend). Rest of the movie ends the same.
This keeps the main villain focus on Electro. Green Goblin is a "bonus" round at the end of the movie, but not really expanded upon. This could've opened the door for the non-existent but originally planned TASM3 movie to either focus on Green Goblin as the main villain or kept Green Goblin as this ultimate showdown villain for later down the line (Assuming the movies continued to make money and Sony kept making them). Like, you can have multiple villains in one movie, but the focus needs to be on ONE of the villains. Into the Spiderverse did that excellently where it had Doc Oc, Kingpin, and the Prowler as their three big villains but the focus remained on Kingpin. We only really understood the Prowler as Uncle Aaron, but got no motivations or anything for him. This could've worked with Green Goblin in TASM2 where we only really see Harry. Sony just tried to focus on too much in too short of a runtime.
Or maybe it was all intentional to fit in with the theme of not having enough time and this was their way of making us feel as rushed as Spidey. Who knows?
bro tasm 1 has always been my favorite movie
Only 900 subs? When you make it big im gonna be in your 1 in 1000 squad.
i feel tasm 1 and 2 were overshadowed by the first trialgy because of nostalgia then it was overshadowed by the next trialgy because it was part of the mcu.
"Tobey is emotionless" possibly the most incorrect statement out of all incorrect statements to ever be wrong.
Spiderman 2 just does not exist to this dude according to that statement
Yeah this guy's just talking out his ass
I grew up with all 3 spidey and Tobey was a little wooden at time in his og trilogy. Something Andrew and tom arent
@@theoutsiderjess1869 Agreed. I rewatched the Tobey movies not that long ago, and there was a scene with Aunt May where she showed with her face and her voice her emotions (I think it was something about Uncle Ben) and Tobey had the blankest stare. He might have had the best written stories, but he wasn't the best actor
@@mbbgraphics1587You are lying. Uncle Ben’s death and Harry’s death work because Tobey gave good crying in those scenes. People make fun of Tobey’s crying out of context a lot.
People hate on Tobey because he acts dorky and has a baby face.
500 days of Spider-Man
Cool video. On a side note, did you also do a voice over for a regular show retrospective by any chance?
Appreciate it bro🙏🏽 but no that wasn't me
1:02:04 Oscorp finally cracks the code 😭
the first amazing spider man is a nice popcorn film, all around solid, I’d give it a 7/10. The second, however, is seriously a disaster. Way too much happening, Spider-Man is too goofy and frequent with his jokes for my liking, all the villains are ass, Gwen died for no reason (could’ve just left like he warned her), etc… don’t even know what id rate AS2, but I know it’s by FAR the weakest of all spider man movies ever created.
I grew up with toby, but spidey 3 killed it for me. Tasm 1&2 made me love spidey again. Those have been my favorite ones since day 1. I care nothing at all about mcu spiderman. Only saw no way home for toby and andrew
"i don't like his new york accent" he says about the guy from new york
I bet some other youtuber will probably make a response video to this saying you're wrong, i really like both movies, but i bet it will happen
i fw ur content heavy twin, subbin’ up🙏🏾 keep up the good work
He ordered the webb fluid to the house.