Just took ownership of an ID5 PRO 2024, First trip was motorway from a full charge. We did 300 miles and had 37 miles left when we got home. Didn't need to charge which was very unexpected. Set off with 97% charge, will only use it to 80% for 99% of the time. Very happy with it so far.
My MG ZS EV LR has a better warranty / 7 years, plus the glass roof slides back and it only costs 30k Euros here in France. I could buy two for the price of the one in this video.
i was thinking that exact point but along the lines of 2 MG4s. I wonder how the MG Marvel would fit in this mix or rather its replacement that is on the horizon.
That plastic interior can't be hard-wearing if it is already scratched! Can't beat proper switches for things, so you can feel and see if it is on or off.
Bang on review on this VW everything you pointed out was right, I owned a MK4 golf and a MK5 and the interior was superb quality and so practical, but why are VW using such poor quality materials and bad designs this is like cars in the 90s rather then a 2022, even when you pressed the headrest on the seat looked cheap due to how soft it looked. MG looks a better car by far ( just wish they would add adjustable steering wheel ) you would think after all the bad press the other VW's had they would of improved on this one, when you was scratching away at the plastic made me cringe. P.s don't see the point on sports mode on cars like this just make a good suspension that takes all the bumps but also gives you good handling , Mercs do a good job of that.
I work for VW/Audi in London and have pre registered a number of I'd.4/5 it is fair to say that so far it is a total flop where as the buzz,essentially an electric van with windows,has sold out till next year and someone paid 72k for one.Does seem a mad world...the plus point is that we were flown out to see the face-lift of the id-3 which has a nicer cabin and better infotainment, we are pressing to get that earlier than September
I had one on a 48 hour test drive this week and really cheesed off the salesman when I returned it after 24 hours as not good value for money and not the quality I expect of a VW. Current EV is a Mini Cooper S E level three that is considered to be expensive for what it is but the interior quality, fit and finish beats the ID3,4 and 5 hands down - the Mini at least feels quality for the price you are paying.
I have an ID5 GTX and would say that the review is a fair round up of the car. I previously had an ID4 First and thanks to fortunate timing I got a fantastic trade in deal and combined with government grants the fairly basic spec ID5 GTX stands me £37,500 which I would say was a fair price, if I had paid the £55,500 sticker price that the car should have been I would be feeling extremely short changed. It's a great car with good range and great interior space. The 3.1 software is much better than the original 2.3 but still nothing to write home about.
@gunhann I had fortunate timing with my trade in, I got considerably more for my ID4 with 36k kms on the clock than I paid for it new! I got 2 x government grants of approx £6.5k each, one on the ID4 and one on the ID5 and then about 7% discount on the sticker price. The government grant has now been completely cancelled and trade in prices are back to reality so no chance of getting such a deal again...
Let's be honest none of the EVs from "volume" makers like VW are really £50-60,000 cars, if they were petrol or DERV you'd say "Are you trying to take £20,000 worth of piss?" The EV drivetrain might be more expensive than ICE but it isn't 20k more expensive. Which makes it even more egregious that the accountants have made the interior quality so crap. You can't blame it all on the suits though, some engineers must think that haptic feedback and important controls that you cannot operate by feel are a good idea. They're not and anybody who thinks that he can improve on a knob or rocker for a volume control needs a thump.
Sloping back window means you can't get tall objects in the boot and/or you hit your dog on the head when closing the tailgate. If you really like the 'Coupe-on-stilts' look, the Enyaq coupe looks better, feels more premium and is still better VFM. I think they should have lowered the suspension and made a more 'saloony' car though.
You are, as ever, 100% correct: it's far too much money when you consider the competition. I bought my mid spec Ultimate, long range Ioniq 5 for £42k - nearly £10k less than this thing costs. Put it next to the Enyaq and it's laughably poor value. Bring this in in the upper 30s and it's its money.
I’m the last person to complain about the cost of cars as I’m realistic and understand the current climate BUT, this one is very clearly significantly overpriced. The interior is poor quality, the infotainment is laggy & the screen too small and the performance isn’t enough.
I would agree wholeheartedly. Someone has decided the way to do that is via the EV surcharge. Make it for as cheap as possible and charge as much as possible as their ICE vehicles still retain relatively decent interiors, capacitive buttons aside.
I have the MG Zs Trophy Long Range 22 plate face lift with the sun roof and absolutely love the car. Its the best car I've ever owned and I've had plenty in my 60 + Years. 32k lol no brainer in comparison to the VW.
Great review as ever - VW pricing in general is uncompetitive at the moment, combined with the cheapening of their cabins. They can probably get away with it on the short term because of demand outstripping supply, but will they see a backlash in the medium term? Especially when the likes of MG, Ora and other Chinese brands establish themselves in the UK.
There's no way that's worth what they're asking for it. My old mk5 Golf had a far better interior, and my current ZS may well have less range and one less headrest in the back, but it was ⅓ of the price. Not one for the wish list.
Purely in terms of driver distraction, I fail to see the difference between fiddling around with a tablet while driving to operate basic in-car systems and using a mobile phone.
I really wouldn’t consider it even at a lower price point. The interior just looks cheap and the competition is light years ahead and at a much better price point . VW need to adapt fast based on this. Some of it isn’t even about money but just lacking that clever design thinking that you see if some of the other brands.
We wanted roof rails so the ID.5 was a no go. At least here in Norway the ID 4 have been competitive priced ending the year as the second most sold vehicle after Model Y. But over the new year weekend VW have increased the price 5% on ID 4/5.
It would be a decent car at just under £40k - which is what I paid for a ID4 77kWh 1st edition 18 months ago. Overall it has been fantastic particularly for lugging dogs and sports equipment around, and for the relaxing drive, but I take your point with the cheap interior. However, with chip shortages, inflation, long delivery schedules, and VW taking too long to make each car (essentially hand building them), the entire ID range is just too expensive. I would like to replace it with the upcoming ID.7 Aero estate (Space Vizzion), but I expect it will be far beyond my price range.
I’m struggling to see the point of the ID4 and 5. Nearly double the price I paid for my ID3 for less performance and range, and all you get is a bigger boot. The profit margin must be massive for these cars as I can’t see what the extra money gets you at all?
Are the seats out of a Cupra Born or very similar ? VW have just done what Audi have done with the Q4 etron, same car I bet. VW have fitted the 77 kwh battery as the 58 kwh battery isn't big enough for the weight of the vehicle. I know one Audi Q4 etron owner with a 58 kwh version only getting 150 to 180 mile range in summer.
I have an ID4. Car mechanically is great. A testament to VW's engineers and workers. The software and interface on the other hand are atrocious. It's lucky we got a bargain lease otherwise I'd be livid. Came from the original Ioniq and that car was so much better.
I had a Civic and sold it because the split rear view annoyed me more and more each day. Looks as if shorter people ,who will most likely be women, could have a serious issue closing the boot.
I think they are marketing this car to the company car segment which is huge in Europe, all leased over three years, the price would not be that different when leased, the ID4 is more for the general market --I think.
Did I miss the Ariya review? Unfortunately pr companies know when they have a turd, regardless of how much they polish. If they punish everyone, no one will review their next car and when people ask why. You can point to this turd of a car
I was contemplating an ID.5, but after looking into it I’ve decided against it. The specs aren’t great and that interior is very poor, especially considering VW used to do some really classy cabins. I’ve got a 2019 Tiguan which looks opulent compared to this. And I’m sure it’s not limited to the ID range either, as when the aforementioned Tiguan went in for a service recently, I got a 22 plate Golf as a courtesy car and the interior of that was just as bad. And those squidgy buttons are horrible, too. I’d argue they aren’t haptic as there’s zero feedback from them. Oh, and the display behind the wheel was an unprotected OLED display mounted on hardboard. Awful. I suspect the caning they got from the emissions cheating is having an effect…
The ID.3 is only touch bigger than the Polo. Golf and polo are not much different in size these days. PSA makes the Corsa, 208 and Renault the Zoe. BYD bringing in the dolphin.
Another great video, showcasing what I think is a pretty average and seriously overpriced EV. I really don't like the exterior design of the ID5. It seems to be neither a saloon/sedan or an SUV and has ended up pretty ugly. VW seem to have designed this model, like the ID 3 and ID4 "down to a budget" rather than up to a quality that justifies the asking price. More shocking for me is they seem to have forgotten just how important the layout, feel and functionality of a car interior ......... the place you spend all your time with the car, actually is. Compare the quality and finish of this to one of their £50K ICE cars and I think you see a world of difference ......... in favour of the ICE car. I'll be very interested to see reviews of the ID Aero when it goes on sale next year to see if VW have learnt any lessons, or just ploughed on with the same thinking.
According to the subtitles, you said that the car has "a Cupid rear" 😂 Rumour has it that the Haptic buttons are to be replaced with ........... normal buttons in 2023 😯
Who's this car for at that price? You can get a Tesla if you want "premium" or if you're a family, something else that size for a lot less. It seems VW just thought it had to be more than the ID4 and pulled the price out of their arse.
All three cars don't make much sense. I see them all as slightly variations of the same car but with the id3 starting at 36k and the id5 at around the 60k mark there is nothing between them that warrants the huge price jump. Plus none of the Id range does anything for me. I'd rather take the Skoda Enyaq but at these prices I'd just buy a Hyundai Ionic 5 or Kia EV6. VW need to lower the prices of these cars i think to make them appealing. Id3 should start at 2rroin 25k..
How much!?! Who in their right mind is going to pay £55K+ for an SUV with a cheap plastic interior. As you say if you have that kind of money there are much better options available. The cost of electric cars has gone mad.
Insane price for this car. I would rather drive pretty much any EV made by the competition. Ioniq 5, EV-6 or even a BYD Atto 3 (which is smaller) are better finished than this ID5.
It looks a bit like those cars from BMW and Mercedes which look like there were two competing teams trying to push the design in opposite directions. One team was trying to jack it up to make it look like an off-roader whilst the other was trying to cut the top off to make it look like a sleek coupé. The end result is just an ugly mess.
So the entire VW range can now be summed up as over priced, crap & cheap interiors with flaky & slow software. Give it another couple of years and refreshed Skoda range will show their parent how to make cars (as they have for years)
Practicality is exactly what you want in a middleaged minge magnet. You'll be crawling with quim before you know it. I give this comment a few seconds, maybe less.
@@colinnich no a friend was in one of took 3 hours to do a hours trip. I’ve seen them line up in Lincoln for two chargers before Christmas. The warnings have been out there for ages now
But in 99% of other journeys charging isn't an issue when you can plug in at home. Also those queues were as a result of Tesla directing to Tesla only chargers
2:58 “If you go in the rear, you get dirty fingers”.
It’s like a contest now to see how many innuendos EVM can get in a video.
The back doors are huge too according to Andy!
Just took ownership of an ID5 PRO 2024,
First trip was motorway from a full charge. We did 300 miles and had 37 miles left when we got home. Didn't need to charge which was very unexpected. Set off with 97% charge, will only use it to 80% for 99% of the time. Very happy with it so far.
My MG ZS EV LR has a better warranty / 7 years, plus the glass roof slides back and it only costs 30k Euros here in France. I could buy two for the price of the one in this video.
i was thinking that exact point but along the lines of 2 MG4s. I wonder how the MG Marvel would fit in this mix or rather its replacement that is on the horizon.
This car is only marginally less than the standard RWD Model Y. The shortcomings and cheap interior is really unacceptable at this price
That plastic interior can't be hard-wearing if it is already scratched! Can't beat proper switches for things, so you can feel and see if it is on or off.
Bang on review on this VW everything you pointed out was right, I owned a MK4 golf and a MK5 and the interior was superb quality and so practical, but why are VW using such poor quality materials and bad designs this is like cars in the 90s rather then a 2022, even when you pressed the headrest on the seat looked cheap due to how soft it looked. MG looks a better car by far ( just wish they would add adjustable steering wheel ) you would think after all the bad press the other VW's had they would of improved on this one, when you was scratching away at the plastic made me cringe.
P.s don't see the point on sports mode on cars like this just make a good suspension that takes all the bumps but also gives you good handling , Mercs do a good job of that.
OMG. How did cars get so expensive.
I work for VW/Audi in London and have pre registered a number of I'd.4/5 it is fair to say that so far it is a total flop where as the buzz,essentially an electric van with windows,has sold out till next year and someone paid 72k for one.Does seem a mad world...the plus point is that we were flown out to see the face-lift of the id-3 which has a nicer cabin and better infotainment, we are pressing to get that earlier than September
Ski hatches are great in Britain because that’s where you put your fishing rods taa dah 😊👍👍
I had one on a 48 hour test drive this week and really cheesed off the salesman when I returned it after 24 hours as not good value for money and not the quality I expect of a VW. Current EV is a Mini Cooper S E level three that is considered to be expensive for what it is but the interior quality, fit and finish beats the ID3,4 and 5 hands down - the Mini at least feels quality for the price you are paying.
I have an ID5 GTX and would say that the review is a fair round up of the car. I previously had an ID4 First and thanks to fortunate timing I got a fantastic trade in deal and combined with government grants the fairly basic spec ID5 GTX stands me £37,500 which I would say was a fair price, if I had paid the £55,500 sticker price that the car should have been I would be feeling extremely short changed. It's a great car with good range and great interior space. The 3.1 software is much better than the original 2.3 but still nothing to write home about.
What government grant takes off 20k from the original price?
@gunhann I had fortunate timing with my trade in, I got considerably more for my ID4 with 36k kms on the clock than I paid for it new! I got 2 x government grants of approx £6.5k each, one on the ID4 and one on the ID5 and then about 7% discount on the sticker price. The government grant has now been completely cancelled and trade in prices are back to reality so no chance of getting such a deal again...
These companies need to take the feedback definitely rather than 'penalise' car reviewers for being honest.
Let's be honest none of the EVs from "volume" makers like VW are really £50-60,000 cars, if they were petrol or DERV you'd say "Are you trying to take £20,000 worth of piss?" The EV drivetrain might be more expensive than ICE but it isn't 20k more expensive.
Which makes it even more egregious that the accountants have made the interior quality so crap. You can't blame it all on the suits though, some engineers must think that haptic feedback and important controls that you cannot operate by feel are a good idea. They're not and anybody who thinks that he can improve on a knob or rocker for a volume control needs a thump.
Your press car cost £1000 more than my model y with a paid colour. No wonder Tesla sell so many.
Thanks guys for another great review. Hope you and your families have had a great Christmas and wish you both a great new year
Sloping back window means you can't get tall objects in the boot and/or you hit your dog on the head when closing the tailgate. If you really like the 'Coupe-on-stilts' look, the Enyaq coupe looks better, feels more premium and is still better VFM. I think they should have lowered the suspension and made a more 'saloony' car though.
If you can't say anything nice...
Also hard wearing should be not be showing wear otherwise it's just plain old cheap
So given the price would you go for an ID.5 or the Tesla Model Y at virtually the same price
Bonkers that someone would chose this car over it’s rivals, or even Enyaq coupe…
You are, as ever, 100% correct: it's far too much money when you consider the competition. I bought my mid spec Ultimate, long range Ioniq 5 for £42k - nearly £10k less than this thing costs.
Put it next to the Enyaq and it's laughably poor value.
Bring this in in the upper 30s and it's its money.
I’m the last person to complain about the cost of cars as I’m realistic and understand the current climate BUT, this one is very clearly significantly overpriced.
The interior is poor quality, the infotainment is laggy & the screen too small and the performance isn’t enough.
Think I will stick with the Model Y.
VW been trying to recover the dieselgate costs for years. Great content again gents
I would agree wholeheartedly. Someone has decided the way to do that is via the EV surcharge. Make it for as cheap as possible and charge as much as possible as their ICE vehicles still retain relatively decent interiors, capacitive buttons aside.
I have the MG Zs Trophy Long Range 22 plate face lift with the sun roof and absolutely love the car. Its the best car I've ever owned and I've had plenty in my 60 + Years. 32k lol no brainer in comparison to the VW.
Great review as ever - VW pricing in general is uncompetitive at the moment, combined with the cheapening of their cabins. They can probably get away with it on the short term because of demand outstripping supply, but will they see a backlash in the medium term? Especially when the likes of MG, Ora and other Chinese brands establish themselves in the UK.
Do a review of the ID Buzz.
There's no way that's worth what they're asking for it. My old mk5 Golf had a far better interior, and my current ZS may well have less range and one less headrest in the back, but it was ⅓ of the price.
Not one for the wish list.
Purely in terms of driver distraction, I fail to see the difference between fiddling around with a tablet while driving to operate basic in-car systems and using a mobile phone.
"You go in the rear you get dirty fingers"
That's what she said,...
Happy New Year, EVM!
I really wouldn’t consider it even at a lower price point. The interior just looks cheap and the competition is light years ahead and at a much better price point . VW need to adapt fast based on this. Some of it isn’t even about money but just lacking that clever design thinking that you see if some of the other brands.
Also, typical Yorkshireman charging his friend! Ee
We wanted roof rails so the ID.5 was a no go. At least here in Norway the ID 4 have been competitive priced ending the year as the second most sold vehicle after Model Y. But over the new year weekend VW have increased the price 5% on ID 4/5.
It would be a decent car at just under £40k - which is what I paid for a ID4 77kWh 1st edition 18 months ago. Overall it has been fantastic particularly for lugging dogs and sports equipment around, and for the relaxing drive, but I take your point with the cheap interior. However, with chip shortages, inflation, long delivery schedules, and VW taking too long to make each car (essentially hand building them), the entire ID range is just too expensive. I would like to replace it with the upcoming ID.7 Aero estate (Space Vizzion), but I expect it will be far beyond my price range.
I’m struggling to see the point of the ID4 and 5. Nearly double the price I paid for my ID3 for less performance and range, and all you get is a bigger boot. The profit margin must be massive for these cars as I can’t see what the extra money gets you at all?
Precisely.VW built 2 million less cars than 10 years ago and made more profit....
@ElectricVehicleMan this is now available for £39.9k few months old is it more worth it now?
What’s an equivalent ID4 available for as a comparison?
@@ElectricVehicleMan same spec ID4 really pro performance hovering between £37k-£39.9k with 77 kwh battery
Please do your white board again. What to purchase first.. An EV. or Solar, or battery.. With electrical prices going up. Solar cost going down.
Are the seats out of a Cupra Born or very similar ? VW have just done what Audi have done with the Q4 etron, same car I bet. VW have fitted the 77 kwh battery as the 58 kwh battery isn't big enough for the weight of the vehicle. I know one Audi Q4 etron owner with a 58 kwh version only getting 150 to 180 mile range in summer.
Great review guys Will be interesting to see the price points when VW Australia finally bring these Downunder.
I have an ID4. Car mechanically is great. A testament to VW's engineers and workers.
The software and interface on the other hand are atrocious. It's lucky we got a bargain lease otherwise I'd be livid.
Came from the original Ioniq and that car was so much better.
I had a Civic and sold it because the split rear view annoyed me more and more each day.
Looks as if shorter people ,who will most likely be women, could have a serious issue closing the boot.
Is the price of the car trying to get money for vw's dieselgate ?
I think they are marketing this car to the company car segment which is huge in Europe, all leased over three years, the price would not be that different when leased, the ID4 is more for the general market --I think.
Very poor. Not as well finished as my last gen eNiro. Looks cheap, because it is, regardless of the price.
Which crystal head you got this year then ?? Have my pride and aurora at the ready :)
Onyx
@@ElectricVehicleMan nice , yet to have the onyx and the standard white one. aurora is nice as is the pride one
Another car I can' t afford and if I could, I wouldn't buy... Enyaq would be my choice.
Did I miss the Ariya review?
Unfortunately pr companies know when they have a turd, regardless of how much they polish.
If they punish everyone, no one will review their next car and when people ask why. You can point to this turd of a car
Another SUV that cannot carry bicycles. A UV then. With those ergonomics maybe it's just a V.
I was contemplating an ID.5, but after looking into it I’ve decided against it. The specs aren’t great and that interior is very poor, especially considering VW used to do some really classy cabins. I’ve got a 2019 Tiguan which looks opulent compared to this. And I’m sure it’s not limited to the ID range either, as when the aforementioned Tiguan went in for a service recently, I got a 22 plate Golf as a courtesy car and the interior of that was just as bad. And those squidgy buttons are horrible, too. I’d argue they aren’t haptic as there’s zero feedback from them. Oh, and the display behind the wheel was an unprotected OLED display mounted on hardboard. Awful. I suspect the caning they got from the emissions cheating is having an effect…
Door handles!!!!
Fantastic!!!
Wonder how long it will take Tezzler to work it out.......!?!?
Why can’t they make a polo equivalent not just massive fat car.
The ID.3 is only touch bigger than the Polo. Golf and polo are not much different in size these days. PSA makes the Corsa, 208 and Renault the Zoe. BYD bringing in the dolphin.
I really don’t like sunroofs, and I want a rear wiper.
Thanks for another great review (although slightly less practical than your ID.4 review 😉).
Another great video, showcasing what I think is a pretty average and seriously overpriced EV.
I really don't like the exterior design of the ID5. It seems to be neither a saloon/sedan or an SUV and has ended up pretty ugly.
VW seem to have designed this model, like the ID 3 and ID4 "down to a budget" rather than up to a quality that justifies the asking price. More shocking for me is they seem to have forgotten just how important the layout, feel and functionality of a car interior ......... the place you spend all your time with the car, actually is. Compare the quality and finish of this to one of their £50K ICE cars and I think you see a world of difference ......... in favour of the ICE car.
I'll be very interested to see reviews of the ID Aero when it goes on sale next year to see if VW have learnt any lessons, or just ploughed on with the same thinking.
According to the subtitles, you said that the car has "a Cupid rear" 😂 Rumour has it that the Haptic buttons are to be replaced with ........... normal buttons in 2023 😯
Did you say that car is £57,000!?
...and that's just for one..??
J. H. F. C....!!!!!
I wish VW would sell the I.D 3 in Canada.
£50,000+....!! Wow...!! I have recently driven the newly redesigned MG5.... Better build quality for way less.
Poor car for the money.
Who's this car for at that price?
You can get a Tesla if you want "premium" or if you're a family, something else that size for a lot less. It seems VW just thought it had to be more than the ID4 and pulled the price out of their arse.
MG5 is better than that
All three cars don't make much sense. I see them all as slightly variations of the same car but with the id3 starting at 36k and the id5 at around the 60k mark there is nothing between them that warrants the huge price jump. Plus none of the Id range does anything for me. I'd rather take the Skoda Enyaq but at these prices I'd just buy a Hyundai Ionic 5 or Kia EV6. VW need to lower the prices of these cars i think to make them appealing. Id3 should start at 2rroin 25k..
How much!?! Who in their right mind is going to pay £55K+ for an SUV with a cheap plastic interior. As you say if you have that kind of money there are much better options available. The cost of electric cars has gone mad.
Insane price for this car.
I would rather drive pretty much any EV made by the competition.
Ioniq 5, EV-6 or even a BYD Atto 3 (which is smaller) are better finished than this ID5.
Its crap for the price
Dirt? Tesla Model Y rear camera entered the chat...
VW cost cutting. Shame, shame, shame. It's as though they have been fined billions for an emissions scandal.
It looks a bit like those cars from BMW and Mercedes which look like there were two competing teams trying to push the design in opposite directions. One team was trying to jack it up to make it look like an off-roader whilst the other was trying to cut the top off to make it look like a sleek coupé. The end result is just an ugly mess.
Who are buying these over a Tesla model y, I just don’t get it?
Drove the ID4 last year, compared to my MG ZS EV was rubbish!
So some of the car you’d ever want at twice the price.
So the entire VW range can now be summed up as over priced, crap & cheap interiors with flaky & slow software. Give it another couple of years and refreshed Skoda range will show their parent how to make cars (as they have for years)
Hello guys
The chinese has nicer interior for cheaper price. The byd ato 3 has nicer interior and cost like 15 grand cheaper.
Practicality is exactly what you want in a middleaged minge magnet. You'll be crawling with quim before you know it. I give this comment a few seconds, maybe less.
The EV world's answer to the hairy bikers 😂
Could my tiny?? wife (5ft) even reach the boot to close it?
my enyaq sportline is much nicer than that, and it was 10k cheaper.
All those touch controls are just plain awful!! Way overpriced too!
VW are losing their touch.
Awful vehicle, in the running for worst car of the year 👍
Looks awful and is definitely not an suv
Who in their right mind would touch an EV. Did you see the lines of EVs waiting to get on chargers over the Christmas holidays
Did you read an article in the Daily Mail and then rush straight here to comment?
@@colinnich no a friend was in one of took 3 hours to do a hours trip. I’ve seen them line up in Lincoln for two chargers before Christmas. The warnings have been out there for ages now
But in 99% of other journeys charging isn't an issue when you can plug in at home. Also those queues were as a result of Tesla directing to Tesla only chargers
Why do they stopped making good cars 🦧