First Generation Apple Products SUCK - And that's OK
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2020
- Apple has a long history of famous and game changing products: The iMac, iBook, iPod, iPhone, MacBook Air, iPad, and Apple Watch to name a few. Despite their reputation for changing the tech industry with revolutionary products, Apple also has a track record for making some glaring errors and omissions. First generation products often have design flaws, lackluster software, and short lifespans. But you know what? That's OK!
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Raise your hand if you've seen Steve Jobs introduce the iPhone on every Apple-related tech youtube channel 😂😂
I know
Not on mine lol 😂
I have watched all Steve Jobs keynotes live except the iPod one.
My hand has been raised
Xd lol me too 😂😂😂😂
Nothing matters as long as it’s “buttery smooth”!😂
I love butter.
No lube
Pea pea nut
2:35 "Steve Jobs was convinced at the time that web apps developed with AJAX and 'Web 2.0' in Safari were the future for expandability"
*looks at Chromebooks*
He was right, just too far ahead of his time.
@Jay Talents he did great for apple now that tim cook is ceo apple has been ruined
@@phantom_wolf5274 I admit they're not innovating as much but apple seems to be doing pretty well under cook too
@@DavidNikkiZane yeah they’re still successful that for sure it’s cuz Tim Cook is greedy
Yeah
A Chromebook is a computer, not a phone.
Got the iPad 1 at launch. The 256mb of RAM completely killed it.
The iPad 4 launched 2.5years later felt like a 2030 device compared to the 1st gen.
Same - the ram was the real problem. It just crashed constantly. Had they doubled the ram, it would have run well.
Had they put 512MB of RAM in the iPad 1, Apple could have updated it to at least iOS 7.
I got the iPad one also but I also got an iPad 2
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@@MerryArbitrary Jesus Christ loves you
8:18
Fun Fact: Steve first designed iOS to run on the iPad but he kept the iPad Project on hold to release the iPhone.
yep, Apple first experimented with multi touch in the early 2000s Steve quickly decided the technology would be perfect for a cell phone
@@sup3rst4r_b0nni3 yup
Fun Fact: Developers tried every single combination of apps and function of the iPhone to check if it would crash and wrote it in a book that Steve Jobs used on stage
I know. I saw it in Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson
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I feel like apple just releases the first generation as bad as they are to test the waters and get feedback to improve their later generations, why do you think they rarely support the first gens for more than a few years?
And I thought the iPad (and then the iPhone as a result) was born because Steve Jobs got pissed because he was at some dinner party or something and a Microsoft exec was bragging about their tablet so much.
Yeah, seems like it.
I agree! I have always considered the first product of something brand new to be a public beta
Isn't it more because they have to invent everything for the first gen and get to refine everything afterwards? Nobody was making laptops as small as they were (At least the motherboard) before the Air, the iPhone was so new the CPU sucked and it had anemic ram, but after they came out they could more easily develop everything else since they're in the open and people know of the products
Hindsight is 20/20. These 1st gen products can’t be scored on what we know today. When those devices came out, yeah, they has some shortcomings, but they introduced new interfaces and from factors. As other have said, refinement comes down the line. But I owned the first iPhone and it was incredible device, even on Edge and no apps and wallpaper only on the lock screen. It was transformational, and as a user, you can see the path to enhancements and advancements, which Apple delivered.
Yep. I feel his frustration. Some of the computer systems today (that I still use for work) are complete rubbish.
Your videos are so freaking good - I love how you make up for the limited production capabilities of being a mid-sized college student youtubers with EXCELLENT content and actually insightful information that you can’t get from other channels. I love that!
Wait... luke is a college student?? I thought he was like 28 or domething
Wait hes a college student 😭
My favorite gen 1 product are AirPods, I mean, they are the best pair of headphones ever I love em
Ok battery
Connect fast
Super strong connection
Sound ok
Very durable
I agree they are good, but if you sweat they break lol I live in Florida my boyfriend wore his AirPods to talk on the phone while walking units (he’s a property manager) and you can hear everything just fine but on phone calls no one can hear him it sounds muffled
Yep I was going to say the AirPods and Apple Watch 1 where amazing for first gen devices. My watch lasted me 5 years and I only upgraded last year.
Tom S yeah about that, the same happened to my brother’s AirPods...
So it was because of water damage lol
@@tommys1678 The Pros are sweatproof, which is a huge plus.
But unfortunately, the Pros suffer from *huge* issues that the original AirPods never did...
My original AirPods had no defects. Their batteries are completely shot now about 2.5 years into their life, but they still work (mostly) as intended aside from rare connection issues here and there. My Pros, however, would always begin to fail the ear tip test with all tip sizes, and my left one started giving loud static feedback to my voice whenever I'm using transparency/isolation, and even the replacements had the same issue where both started failing the ear tip test and the left bud started suffering from loud static feedback to my voice while using transparency/isolation (and it's not like they gave me my same pair back, I handed my pair to them as they handed me my new pair). The Pros have major issues and are on the verge of causing Apple to face a class-action lawsuit kind of like the battery-slowing public case that became known in 2017/2018.
TL;DR - The original AirPods are such a good first-generation device, that they are free of issues that later models suffer from.
and uncomfortable
Even knowing this I’ll be buying one of the first Apple silicon macs
I don’t know if their new ARM chip applies, since it’s not really their first. However, I’d wait for a few revisions of Apple Glass.
Yes, me too.
Same!! The rumored MacBook SE would be a dream for my Highschool work (which is web based) and I’ll be going into my junior year so then once I’m out of highschool in 2 years if the transition goes to plan the Apple Silicon will be a 100% finished and ready for college!
I will as well. I am in the market for a new one and I waited long enough for this year's MPA and MPB offerings. But the chance for a (perhaps) October release -- October being a common month for releases in the past -- has me wanting to wait a few months more.
If you rock a 5+ yr old Mac and need an upgrade to just do editing and such......the last Intel MacBook isn’t a bad machine to wait out the Arm revisions drama on......that’s what I’m literally banking on myself. A new Arm Mac may get 20 hrs battery & walk on water but it’s the unforeseen issues I’d rather skip while I watch Apple run around like clowns getting out of a new clown car to patch, fix, or spin it as a “feature.”
Last I checked, my private finances weren’t budgeted for beta-testing unproven tech at the prices they charge.
Love my 1st gen airpods ❤️
Me too 😊
And my iPhone 7 and MacBook Air 2020 😊
I just ordered the MB Air M1 and cannot wait to find its limits.
@@unboxings5218 none of those are first gen
@@heeheeriah Ik I’m just saying I love my other apple products to 😂
luke: ' all apple first gen products suck,'
M1 Macs: ' am i a joke to you,'
I think he means more of the radical totally new and unheard of products. The M1 Macs don't really fall into this category because they just stuck their more powerful and efficient M1 chip into an already successful Mac model. And it works very well.
Very true. Would be wise to avoid 1st Gen apple silicon macs unless you’re a baller of course.
Will this video apply to first gen Apple silicon devices?
2020 sucks I don’t think so, I think they will be pretty optimized machines since Apple has been working on their own chips for years
Don’t avoid the Apple silicon it’s based on the a12 chip and everyone loves the iPad Pro and air and mini
Apple silicon is the a12x or a12z in a macbook
It’s not wise to avoid the Apple silicon chips
“Who’s gonna carry around a 3rd screen”
Me with my phone, iPad, laptop, and desktop
1:58min. when the 4GB RAM were printed on the back of an iPhone. Oh wait...
it is 4GB storage, how can the first gen iPhone has the same RAM as the iPhone 11 Pro
@@ItzDatMC Sarcasm, my friend. The "Oh wait..." was his way of making it obvious that he was being sarcastic.
This video gives interesting subtext to the first ARM Apple computers.
Please note that early iPhones use Samsung chipset.
All the first gen products were really revolutionary and amazing. Were they perfect? No. Did they get better over time? Absolutely.
All the other manufacturers scrambled to produce anything remotely as good and still struggle today.
The answer, wait till version 2.0? I wait with bated breathe for the Apple Car, will it beat Tesla? Or do we wait for Apple car 2.0?
I live for transitions like the one at 4:52
Imagine if someone had been like this about the 2013 Mac Pro.
8:56 this is still the case today, even with apps from major companies. Instagram, PayPal, Snapchat...
Instagram and Snapchat are mobile apps, the developers behind them will prefer to keep the same iPhone aspect ratio. A redesigned iPad App would look awful and stretched out for social media, PayPal have no excuse though.
The introduction of the iPhone is for me like it was yesterday! I remember being glued at my PowerMac G5 watching the live videostream! Where has time gone?
They were okay at the time
Oh, First Comment!
I think we’re feeling defensive partly because of his tone... no offense to him but it sounds like he thinks he can do a better job than Apple does for a first gen product. Maybe it’s because we’re fans of Apple
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They were more than ok... they were brilliant.
AirPods were perfect.
And they still are.
Sound-wise, they really weren't. But they're pretty good now.
Warlock M the first AirPods was made to replace the EarPods that comes with your phone. They wasn’t going for the best sound, base and loudness. They were made for conversations and some music. They were a lil too expensive forgeât they do though. I hate le when TH-camrs were comparing them to Bose and galaxy earbuds.
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354 makes sense when you consider price
@@mrcia2129 yep, in my country, the galaxy buds is just about $75, which is an ultimate steal for an samsung product
12:25 Sometimes they admit mistakes... just look at Services
1stGen = MobileMe
2ndGen = iCloud
Again 1st Gen sucked (so hard they even had to rename it!) but at least they admited it when introducing 2ndGen...
MobileMe is not first generation, .Mac is first generation
First gen airpower was really bad at release....oh wait we never got it 😂
The answer is: Wait until the “4th Gen”:
Apple Watch 4
iPhone 4
iPad 4
...
Apple Glasses 4
Alessandro Neiva you're holding it wrong (also 3GS 4Life)
Is there a 6th gen apple watch
Core Studio not yet
Nah wait till the 3rd model.
Apple Watch Series 3 (still being sold)
iPhone 3G/3GS (didn’t have crippling antenna issues)
iPad 3 (Bit slow and iffy but workable (?))
MacBook Pro 3rd Gen/Retina (what many consider to be the golden age of MacBooks)
who can wait that long! take my money!!
So, what does this mean for the 1st generation Macs with Apple Silicon coming soon?
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I cannot wait until they're first ARM Macbook comes out.
I waited until about a month ago to get my new 16 inch Macbook pro for this exact reason, well worth the wait and every penny
What happened to your camera focus Luke? Anyways great discussion. I will always read and research for weeks or months before buying tech. Waiting always is good for decisions.
MacBook Air transition at 4:53 is just epic 👏👏👏
I agree, I loved my first gen iPad but it only got 2 years of support iOS 3-5 and the iPhone 4 had the same A4 chip and got iOS 7. It's a shame the iPad only had 256mb of ram
As you mentioned, it’s about the RAM memory. Not because of it being a first gen product, as is suggested in the video
Thanks for the insight. Trying to decide whether to wait for a new portable or (actually) buy a used "best in class" MacBook Pro. Looks like I should wait a bit and see what happens.
Same
The original MacBook Air was also slow due to its PATA interface for the hard disk. The late 2008 model had SATA but still used 4200rpm drives.
3:00 How can you make a phone with an app store if the concept of app store wasn't invented yet?
There were app-stores on other phones, mostly for Symbian and Windows CE based phones.
@@superhavi Well I remember the Ovi store, Symbian app store, but that came out after the app store, in 2010 according to wikipedia. I don't remember any store type for Windows CE. I'm sure you could sideload applications on WinCE but I think the concept of app store pretty much gets the most traction after it was used as we use it today on the iphone.
do you think there will be a 10th Gen 16" Macbook pro ? or will they just stop at the 9th and then next refresh will be apple ARM ?
Camera quality looks extra crispy in this one 👌🏼
Anyone have any ideas what I can still do with my 1st gen iPad? the app store is no longer working and neither is the youtube app. Maybe some jailbreaking, but is that even still supported?
I remember when the initial iPad came out. I was shopping for a more portable device. I looked at the iPad and thought the design was cool but thought overall it wasn’t anything close to wat I was looking for. I ended up going the netbook route.
To this day I find Razr to be the most amazing mobile phone ever made.
@@sup3rst4r_b0nni3 tf?
I like your videos not only because you provide lots of info... but because you don’t constantly zoom in and out and turn black and white. An editing paradigm which a lot of young content makers do.
Is the new Razer blade stealth a 13 inch MacBook Pro killer
I'm a teacher and musician and one of my students just gifted me an iPad 1, no 3G and only 16GB.
She gave it to me because I had told her I'm still using two really old macbooks only for music making and sometimes online lessons.
I'm happy with this old iPad. I've been using it as an guitar amp sim, gaming, etc.
Despite this thing is really old and obsolete, you can have lots of fun with it if you are curious enough to see and learn what it can do.
love that your branching out from MacBooks and iMacs
I bought a top of the line ipad 1 w/ 3g and 64gb storage. I really did feel burned on that one. It just didn’t have the ram it needed so it crashed constantly despite costing well over 1k. The 2 was great - my dad had one of those and used it for ~5 yrs and it held up really well.
That intro though!
The iPhone 3GS is a great looking iPhone. Have Steve Jobs saw the future of the iPhones after the iPhone 4s iOS 5.
What’s bad on calendar app on the iPad?
The first gen AirPods is as good as the 2nd gen to be honest 👀. The sound quality is identical even though we get some more features on the 2nd one
I’m still using the first Apple Watch everyday and it is ok 😅😉
The first iPad mini was one of the worst Apple products ever 🙈
The first iPad was fine, but received little updates...
The first AirPods are very good and I use them everyday for work and for music 😊
It hurts to type this on the first gen mini
The first iPad mini was great! I owned one in 2012
And still have it
Agreed. But: I don't believe it's right to generalise Apple fans complain about 'Apple not jumping on the latest trends fast enough' while on the other hand 'complain about first generation product blunders'. There are a good portion who would want to have Apple release products ONLY when they are properly and fully vetted!
And. At this point: Computers, lap tops, smart phones and tablets have already been invented unlike the first days of actually inventing the products. Companies like Apple have no excuses to release flawed "new generations" of the same products types.
Intel and ARM are architectures that have been widely used and Apple should do its homework and vetting BECAUSE of this 'new generation'.
We pay plenty for their products. No excuses!
I really wanted to buy a Mac but now I don’t know what to do because of the switch. I’m thinking of getting a mid 2015 15” DG and waiting it out for 2 years lol
I miss the old Steve presentations. They were presentations. The current Apple events seem more like glorified advertisements. He had much more swagger when unveiled something.
I remember getting an iPad 1 and using the crap out of it mostly TH-cam and Minecraft the gummy bear song and not knowing how chests work in Minecraft stick out because survival didn’t work in PE originally
4:54 OOH that transition! Slick mate
I bought an 8 Plus instead of an X in 2017, and I bought a 16" MacBook Pro after Apple Silicon was announced. As much as people enjoy romanticizing about the first-gen "ooh shiny" effect, I prefer buying a product based on tried and true design, rather than hopping on an expensive beta test program. I don't mind keeping my equipment for 4+ years until all of the kinks are worked out.
the watch series 1 is the worst, got mine and after 2 years the battery died and now all the acids are inside it, i keep it just as a memory of my 1st iWatch... bought a 2nd hand MB Pro mid-2012, worst thing ever, 1 week later the gpu died and kept giving kernel panic... now i have trust issues and don't know if it's worth buying a macbook again as i just it for photography
How can you ship an iPhone without an App Store? What was the App Store? Not many people had the idea of downloading apps on a device so that wasn’t a problem to them.
Havent watched your videos in a while but have always loved them. Congrats on so many subscribers keep up the good work! You are way more successful in life than me and I'm 28 lol.
I still have mint condition 1st gen iPad running iOS 3 and iPhone running iPhoneOS 1.
I had the Ipod Touch 1st gen and the Ipad 1st gen and i loved them, even though the Ipad was kinda weird and had not really big features. I always though who would use that thing as a picture frame (which you could activate on the lock screen). But i hated the original case for it.
I did get an iPod Touch 1st Gen, loved cover flow on that screen 3.5, an iPhone without the phone portion at the time.
Good analysis. I always wait for the version 1.5 release (e.g., not the original 5Gb iPod, rather I got the 10Gb). I always get the “S” version of an iPhone redesign.
still have the 1st gen ipad with the box, hated that thing
The 1st gen Ipad is surprisingly good for watching movies offline. The OS takes up way less storage which means you can get further on a 64gb first gen ipad than you can on a newer 64gb ipad. Couple that with weaker chips, discontinued network features, and a lower resolution screen and you have far lower power draw and surprisingly beefy battery life
Hey,my iPhone 6s just died (sea water,not turning on) and i want to buy an se 2020, but my budget is not very big. Should i buy it ( srry, Romanian english😂)
Yeah, I'd go for it. Oh and your English is pretty good, don't worry about it :)
@@TheExplosionRUs thanks, but my wallet is crying, so i found a cheap galaxy note 10 lite, i love the iPhone, is the best but...😔
Ps: now im using the Amazon* fire phone and its HORRIBLE
Third generation butterfly keyboard still sucked...
The Starbucks app on iPad is just the mobile version just zoomed in like you said, it’s 2020 and they haven’t made one that doesn’t look ridiculous yet.
Hey do you ever sell any of the MacBooks you no longer use?
It sounds crazy but I took my iPad 1 to college with the suite apps. Created entire papers and PowerPoints on it.
I think saying Apple's first gen devices are bad is a bit disingenuous. They're almost always significantly better than competing products even on first gen, they only look bad in comparison.
Like steve jobs said, apple doesn't make junk. Sure, the MacBook air was compromised, but it wasn't inherently bad experience, especially vs the netbooks of the day. The idea of the MacBook air was ultimately the right one, nobody wants a compromised and bad product like netbooks, a well built thin and light was the way to go. Not cheap enough? The iPad does everything you'd do on a netbook but better, even in it's early iteration.
Tbh, *who would carry 3 devices* hurts my soul cuz I'm that person lol
I hugely feel this way about the first-generation Apple Watch. No smartwatch had a higher screen resolution or could access half as many apps as the original Apple Watch could.
Moreover, I actually miss the days of the first-gen Apple Watch, as there are so many app developers that deleted their apps over time. I do love my Apple Watch series 5, but I really miss having dedicated Twitter app, Instagram app, and SoundCloud app, as they provided functionality that the WatchOS iPhone notification passthrough feature doesn't make up for with Twitter/Instagram, and that the WatchOS Now-Playing app doesn't make up for with SoundCloud.
Not to mention, WatchOS 1 and Watch OS 2 had more attractive UI across the board with transparency effects and 60fps animations for everything, while WatchOS 3 and 4 got rid of Siri's transparency effects, reduced the waveform to 15fps, and got rid of voice-feedback animations for it, completely butchering the fluidity of the Apple Watch 0 and Series 1/2/3. Even today with WatchOS 5 and 6 on the Apple Watch Series 4/5, while Siri got back its 60fps, voice-feedback-animated waveform, its all still on a solid-black screen with no blurred watch-face/app behind it. The Apple Watch launched in 2015 feeling closer to a micro iOS device than the 2019 Apple Watch Series 5 feels.
About the things missing on the first iPhone, you forgot: 3G connectivity (yeah), modem to other phones, bluetooth, file transfer to computer, memory expansion, flash on the camera, MMS (send or receive), ability to choose your carrier, an app store, games, text in landscape.
I lived through the era of iOS without a file manager. It was hard!
I have an IPad 2 today, we got it in America cos it was cheaper than in England and we still have it. It's barely used anymore because everyone just uses their phones
Amazing that the M1 Macs are actually incredible, although to be fair Apple has already had a lot of experience designing their own chips through nearly all their other product lineups.
I loved the way you described the 12 inch MacBook. 😂
And the original iMac came with a horrible mouse and the IR port was not able to establish a stable connection with my phone.
Whats the first music called?
The butterfly keyboard is one of the prime examples of a faulty product and Apple still hasn't said sorry.
I have to buy a new macbook because I‘m starting Uni this fall and was kinda torn between waiting for Apple silicone or buying an intel one. But now my mind is kinda made up... I don‘t want to wait for a laptop that may or may not be worse than the ones they are currently selling... also I‘m kinda getting fed up with my 2009 mac mini (surprise surpise lol) that can‘t even run zoom
I, too, will be buying an ARM right with you. I have a 2009 iMac that I use at home for basic tasks but I do have a Chromebook for teaching that my school district provides me, so I don't HAVE to get a new MBP right now. So I figured I'd wait until the release in perhaps October and see how the initial reviews were.
M1 Macs: Allow us to introduce ourselves
Do you think we’ll se this same sort of thing for the switch to ARM?
i think so... app developers will needto optiimize.Also apple is ditching AMD and moving to apple GPU, this would mean more work for app developers. I feel it will take 4 yrs for everything to settle down and for everything to be optimized.
What a refreshing honest assessment of Apples first generation releases. Ive never owned a first gen. closest I got was an iPhone 3. I still have it and it works, got a new SE now.
I've had enough experience with Apple that I wait for much later iterations. I waited for the iPod 5th gen, the iPhone 4, the iPad Pro 9.7, and I'm hoping Apple Watch Series 6 is the one.
Why isn't series 5 'the one'? It's awesome
The apple Watch has been on point since gen 3 and 4.
The title is somewhat true, I read that in Tim Cook’s biography too, normally Apple devices become a trend in the third year or version, it happened with iPhone, iPod, iPad and Apple Watch. There are some exceptions like the AirPods that were a success from the very beginning.
This video was beautifully put together. Congratulations Luke
I know this video is two years old but there is a few points to note, firstly a trillion dollars in the bank can buy a lot of talent, secondly it’s not unrealistic or unreasonable to expect Apple to get it right first time and lastly, the points you make Luke forms a caveat about buying first Generation Apple products, I have never been or will be a fanboy and it took 12 iterations of the iPhone before I finally opted to buy one , the last Apple desktop I used was back in 1987 and the one I went on to buy was in 2019. I’ve always thought that once iPhone and iPad were released they were behind the curve - I did own a second generation iPad then due to it’s underwhelmingness I didn’t go for another until 2022. So it won’t come as surprise to you that I won’t be first in line to buy an Apple wearable- maybe in 5-10 years time or maybe not at all. I find Apple price strategy borderline extortionate and in order to get anything close to what I expect I have to spend massive sums of money to get it, and I’m still a bit disappointed thereafter. Apple are not the worst tech company and they definitely do get things wrong but to repeat: a trillion dollars buys a lot of talent so why is it so unrealistic and unreasonable to expect them to get their product right first time?
I want your wallpaper on your iMacs behind :(
I might get like Mac Book / Air kinda device, maybe even first gen if the price is right, just to say I was there. But sure I’ll wait around and watch, untill the pro lineup prooves itself worthy. Especially when I’m not convinced it will be more useful than what I curently have.
The first gen was specifically designed to be upgraded year over year duh.
This is a good thing to remember as we get closer to the AR/VR headset coming out.
It's gonna suck. AT FIRST, before subsequent revs come out.
It is why you need to hold n buying ARM Mac. But, I wrote a program to copy music to iPod without a computer.
The 1998 first iMac was quite good though. It was probably one of the best initial Apple products. They were still in use many years later.
It's funny how the original iPad 32GB Model from 2010 costed $599, but the 32GB iPad 7 from 2019 costs $329.
slap some flex tape on it and it will be fine
I am very curious how the first generation Apple made GPU's for MacOS will be.
100% 💯 in agreement we are. I am now going to skip ARM based Macs for 2-3 years. It’s all thanks to you and this video Luke. 😉
It has been 3 years, M3 is coming out soon how is that going
Great trip and perspective down memory lane
I usually don’t adopt first gen Apple products, not willing to do the bleeding edge and pay the premium when a vastly superior product is usually available next year/year after which works out a lot of the kinks.
First iPad was iPad 2,
Didn’t join the Apple camp for phones till sometime later, has iPhone 5 as my first and then been with them ever since, tried Symbian, Android and Windows Phone for a bit.
Same thing with Apple Watch jumped in the 2nd year with Apple Watch Series 1.
I was waiting for Dual Core on the devices to enable faster performance.
Would only consider first-gen at a significant discount and knowing what I was getting into.
I did buy the 2015 MacBook 12", it did exactly what I wanted, a light device that runs MacOS.
First wireless ear buds from Apple I got was the Air Pods Pro.
It really is about what you are looking for in terms of functionality.