The MacBook Apple should never have made

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    There have been many great MacBooks over the years. There have also been many terrible MacBooks over the years. In today's video I'll explain why this one in particular is the worst one that money can buy.
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  • @falxie_
    @falxie_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    A TH-camr actually recommending someone to not buy something seems rare

    • @williamwalcott8808
      @williamwalcott8808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It would never be the current version of anything.

    • @davidcroteau5078
      @davidcroteau5078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes but he kind of forgot to talk about non-Apple Computer like if there was only MacBook or because he likes them even after all these mistake Apple made.

    • @daniel.asserhed
      @daniel.asserhed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @David Croteau he only talks about macbooks because the video title IS macbooks

    • @cheeseisgud7311
      @cheeseisgud7311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you watched lock picking lawyer

    • @tres-2b299
      @tres-2b299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not, tech channels do that everytime. Especially ones dedicated to apple. Basically a product is coming in the future to kill the current one, so theh don't recommend the current one.

  • @Mopsie
    @Mopsie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I like Luke, he stays original in a sea of tech videos/channels

  • @TheGloriousLeader
    @TheGloriousLeader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Ah, the a1534. Worst repair that I’ve ever had to deal with.

  • @appledolphin8157
    @appledolphin8157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I went in thinking, “It’s got to be the 2011 or 2016 15 inch”. And one of those it was.

    • @GuillermoPaulman
      @GuillermoPaulman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I owned both and the 2011 wasn't even quarter as bad as the 2016. I gave the 2011 to my dad and he actually still uses it as his daily driver.

  • @calebgebhard7863
    @calebgebhard7863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    *Awkwardly watching on my 2016 15" touhbar*
    It has given me some keyboard issues but none that have made me want to get something different. M1X/M2 16" might change my mind on that soon though.

    • @zen608
      @zen608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wait, your macbook has a touhbar? I can't find mine...

    • @jojoxl
      @jojoxl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zen608 ok

    • @Lukas_Kramer
      @Lukas_Kramer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’ve never had a single issue with my keyboard, but I was aware of the problem and I’ve been very careful (which I generally am). The only thing that is really annoying me is the overheating or just getting pretty hot. I am using mostly just lightroom and photoshop, but they’ve been getting quite demanding on the processor. The other thing I’d like to replace is the battery, battery life is mostly still fine, but sometimes the battery drains rather fast and I don’t really go out without a charger anymore. Knowing that would be possible with the efficiency of the M1 chips a new laptop is rather tempting !

    • @BharatChandran
      @BharatChandran 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

    • @carlospadron5629
      @carlospadron5629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lukas_Kramer The 2016 Macbook Pro 15in was known for having bad battery life since launch. I purchased one about a year ago with a new battery and 7 battery cycles (I checked), and my battery was still bad. Looking it up on Apple's forums, people experienced the same problem when it launched. I have not run into issues with the keyboard, and I love it for what I've been able to do, but I am definitely waiting to see the M1X refresh and possibly "downgrade" to the 14"

  • @daviddaranijio7167
    @daviddaranijio7167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    When he said family i swore that dom torreto would appear

  • @SOFA_1997
    @SOFA_1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I sold my 2016 13" just after it went out of warranty and even got 2/5 of my money out of it. The keyboard failed 3 times on me and the display started to delaminate. Now I have a M1 Air and it couldn't be happier.

    • @selma8337
      @selma8337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JK-uc8cw idk if this is useful since ive had it for just a week. but until now i haven’t noticed any issues. no overheating even tho i used it for hours and there no “windy sounds” coming out of the laptop. im not an expert but it look really good so far

  • @milkyy4168
    @milkyy4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    And I remember always asking my mom for a 12 inch MacBook…. I’m now glad I didn’t get it. Now I have a m1 air and I can’t be happier.

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No. I am not buying a laptop without ports

    • @ValSX
      @ValSX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@the_mariocrafter ok?

    • @astrotone
      @astrotone ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the_mariocrafterDidn’t expect you here

  • @RostykMakushak
    @RostykMakushak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    4:35 Luke, I’m “young” enough to remember the “floppy disk transition”! I had to buy an external third-party floppy disk drive because of that. Worth mentioning also that at the same time Apple introduced USB ports (instead of SCSI)! It was a revolution in 1999! • By the way nearly a decade later I’m still using my late 2013 retina 13” MacBook, watching your YT channel on it and editing 4K videos without problem. Probably one of the best MacBooks ever made. Would buy it again.

    • @cristibaluta
      @cristibaluta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If speed is not a problem then yes, good for you you have no problem with that mac.

    • @FredFurlowe
      @FredFurlowe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They also introduced color and style. Most computers, even Apple's own had any other color besides beige. Hmmm, maybe Silicon Graphics Workstation? Job's own NeXT? Anyhow, that iMac was a revolution and a half.

  • @EricRosenfield
    @EricRosenfield 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The crippling graphics card failures on the early MacBooks is the reason Apple still won't work with Nvidia anymore.

    • @standupyak
      @standupyak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I thought AMD had gpu issues on macbooks too

    • @Tech-geeky
      @Tech-geeky ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a shame, and i would say a compay like Apple "choosing" not to work with NVidia only because of if not affect all models,,, just a few, but enough of a % to cause Apple to change is "not nice"
      That's what we get when we buy from a company and they make the rules... If it was a PC, this wouldn't be a problem..,. You can use whatever graphics card you liked.

  • @MattTalkTech
    @MattTalkTech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    The SD Card Scene at 5:30 cracked me up! 😂😂😂

    • @Maleteo1
      @Maleteo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂😂😂

    • @the-terminator5682
      @the-terminator5682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      “I don’t even own a camera”

    • @dgpsf
      @dgpsf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed he is so funny

    • @raseem999
      @raseem999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr

    • @NotWorthIt9
      @NotWorthIt9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was so terrified that I almost went over to a Gatesware machine.

  • @Techtype_
    @Techtype_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    “This is the Late 2016-“
    Me: KNEW IT!!!

    • @emmettroberts1064
      @emmettroberts1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damnit I’m trying to sell mine

    • @kakarot1234567891234
      @kakarot1234567891234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@emmettroberts1064 They still sell like crazy. I sold my base model 13” 2017 Pro for 700.

    • @sherwynbugatti
      @sherwynbugatti 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your wallpaper is cool

  • @ManhNguyen-ib1un
    @ManhNguyen-ib1un ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "I seriously think that Apple would do very well if they made a 15 inch Macbook Air like literally M1 same design same everything ... but just larger, people would absolutely buy that", this aged really well, Apple literally just gave us a 15 inch m2 mba

  • @Alvin-eq5rc
    @Alvin-eq5rc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I’ve the 2017 MacBook Pro. It’s a shame that Apple sold us this flawed keyboard MacBook. The keyboard has been replaced once but it’s still the flawed keyboard. I hope Apple would own up their mistake and allowed us to upgrade with substantial discount for faulty/unreparable laptop. Felt like the victim bullied by big tech company

    • @Tech-geeky
      @Tech-geeky ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually liked them

    • @CuriousPerson2206
      @CuriousPerson2206 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tech-geekywell they had a free replacement program for the keyboards when the macbook 2017 was supported soo

  • @Bropes
    @Bropes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Mid 2015 market still thriving 😎

    • @123acosta5
      @123acosta5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As we should be

  • @adamr4198
    @adamr4198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    My daily is still a 2012 15” MB retina. I guess I got one of the good ones. It must had been made on a Tuesday or Wednesday. 😄

    • @tylerFC1
      @tylerFC1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “Daily” mf’s acting like computers are cars 😂

    • @adamr4198
      @adamr4198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tylerFC1 well technically it’s my personal computer that I use about twice a week. So not really my “daily”. But it be feels wrong calling it a “PC” when it’s Mac.

    • @tylerFC1
      @tylerFC1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@adamr4198 I was just messing around just sounds funny to me being a car person. Surface pro x for shows and M1 pro for school. So I get it haha.

    • @adamr4198
      @adamr4198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tylerFC1 no worries. RCR is one of my favorite channels.

    • @tylerFC1
      @tylerFC1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adamr4198 I just started school for IT so I’m just now learning about what makes computers work. Still have tons to learn! Haha

  • @Alagathevictor
    @Alagathevictor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So happy that I got the 2015 version of my 13” macbook pro. It has all the ports and a good keyboard

    • @Anoalekontrieger
      @Anoalekontrieger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same, still a great laptop!

    • @maganatalia8432
      @maganatalia8432 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too, while watching this video I was thinking to myself "Boy, am I lucky I got me a MB 2015 back then." Still working just fine. But I'd like to have the new MB because I do not want to risk to wait until the lust minute of my MB's life.

  • @maxpayne7030
    @maxpayne7030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Rocking a 2010 MacBook Pro which has kernel panics 10 times daily right now and waiting for second generation Apple Silicon chip MacBook ☺️

    • @velxcity07
      @velxcity07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro same I’m rocking 2012 Dual core i5 Mac mini with stock HDD and thermal paste 😬

    • @kyledavis23
      @kyledavis23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I... have a late 2011 MacBook Air (dual-core i5, 1.7Ghz) that will hit 75-80 Celsius when watching TH-cam at 720p60... I think I need an upgrade.

    • @velxcity07
      @velxcity07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyledavis23 Easy: get MacsFanControl.

    • @maxpayne7030
      @maxpayne7030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@velxcity07 I did install an SSD but still has the stock thermal paste and 4 GB RAM 🙂. It's kinda a headache but buying M1 rn is kinda idiotic as I believe M1X is right around the corner. And I bet the thermal paste must have evaporated by now lol

    • @maxpayne7030
      @maxpayne7030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyledavis23 bro mine too reaches 80-85°C while watching YT at 1080P@60 😭. First I thought it was a glitch in Chrome but Safari was lagging and heating. So its my Mac after all

  • @jrnmadsen2710
    @jrnmadsen2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Watching this on my mid-2015 15" Macbook Pro.
    Everything works, never repaired (but changed the battery last year), not a scratch, perfect screen ... don't need higher performance. I hope it runs for 10 more years :)

    • @florind1587
      @florind1587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here! Got it “like new”, no scratches, perfect display, battery still Ok. The 2015 MBP is a killer!

    • @jrnmadsen2710
      @jrnmadsen2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@florind1587 Yup, my rule #1: My computer must run every day, all the day. I use it a lot. Who cares about fancy spec's and talk,- if you spend time in the repair shop. I bought it in 2017 as new. My 2012 model died in a 6 feet drop.
      I phoned my tech friends:
      "What about the new models?".
      "Don't buy, new models are a nightmare. Find a shop with a 2015 model in stock."
      I did, best computer I ever had. (I have many, but it's my faithful workhorse)

    • @bobweiram6321
      @bobweiram6321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The performance of the later models are faster, but not fast enough.

    • @mushroomlegion
      @mushroomlegion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also bought a 2015 MBP and it runs perfect :)

    • @ibrahimishaq1930
      @ibrahimishaq1930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got one brand new with the 16gb I7 and dual graphics, almost time to. Change it tho changed battery after 3years, time to get the 2019 model

  • @TechnoThornYT
    @TechnoThornYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Anyone notice at 10:11 the battery level is at like 80% on the Intel MacBook, and when he is done with the test it is at like 50% 10:16

  • @AneesGeek
    @AneesGeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don’t forget the 21.5 inch 2.3ghz iMac model it’s still retailing for 999 dollars. The worst purchase I ever made 🥲

    • @sh1121
      @sh1121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Giving $300 more and getting the M1 would had given you better speed, efficiency and screen real estate

  • @youxunliu5904
    @youxunliu5904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I was expecting Dom toretto when he said family

  • @Jkirk3279
    @Jkirk3279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can’t believe you left out the 2010 with it’s bad capacitor.
    But yes, the 2015 15” is probably the best option used.

  • @vjrp
    @vjrp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    0:13 definetly not reading a script xD

  • @shixuo
    @shixuo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    the touch bar on macbook is literally one of my fav thing why do people hate it

    • @aidansullivan3154
      @aidansullivan3154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      i know right! i think it’s pretty awesome

    • @quxncy9492
      @quxncy9492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder the same thing

    • @alexander_martinez6084
      @alexander_martinez6084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because they’re over privileged brats

    • @nejijack
      @nejijack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      its so annoying

    • @shixuo
      @shixuo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nejijack 😟 no?

  • @aaronlatham5161
    @aaronlatham5161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Luke, thanks a lot for this video. I recently had my full 2016 MBP Top Case replaced due to a keyboard issue. This lasted about 3 months before another key became stuck (worse than the original issues). Last week I was planning on taking it back in to the Apple Store and getting it fixed again, as the new parts came with a new warranty I knew I wouldn't have an issue getting it replaced again, it was just going be inconvenient.
    After seeing that you had your unit totally replaced with the 2019 model, I politely requested a similar resolution to my issue, and I am picking up my brand new replacement 16" MBP tomorrow, free of charge.
    It does appear that Apple are willing to do the right thing here, at least in my case.
    Thanks again.
    Great content as always.

  • @TejasGuptaMusic
    @TejasGuptaMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    5:36 - OMG that skit was hilarious 😂😂

  • @robertkettle473
    @robertkettle473 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly, I absolutely adored the butterfly keyboard and never had any problems with it, over about 5 years of having that Mac. I never gave it special treatment and frequently ate whilst typing and stuff

    • @Tech-geeky
      @Tech-geeky ปีที่แล้ว

      so do I, but i kinda got used to the new designs as well.. Personally, i dunno what all the fuss is about.... It's not like the house shook when typing

    • @ryanalencar
      @ryanalencar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, how is going on with the keyboard? @tech-geeky

  • @isthisnametaken978
    @isthisnametaken978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Back in 2016, when the touch bar was a new and big thing, and my brother was looking to get a new MacBook, he was gonna get the 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro, but I strongly advised him against it. Told him it doesn't have SD reader, less ports, barely performs better, and the touch bar isn't as useful. After some talking, I managed to convince him to get the 2015 model. Of course at the time we didn't know about the problem with the butterfly keys, so that was a massive bullet that he dodged by getting the 2015 model. He's still using it to this day, still going strong.

    • @GuillermoPaulman
      @GuillermoPaulman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was hesitating between the same two models, but ended up buying the 2016 one. I still have to do a facepalm when I think of that :D

  • @mikekaylor1226
    @mikekaylor1226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a 15 inch MacBook Pro from 2017, and it has been a good performer for the most part. I like the keyboard, although its better on my new MacBook Air M1. It has been quite a workhorse, but the M1's are really great!

  • @jmar0015
    @jmar0015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I use the xd card reader for extra memory. I have a flushed sd card sitting there. USEFUL.

  • @pandaengine
    @pandaengine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love my M1 Air, doin game and software development on it and it has been holding up great! Only thing I'd like to upgrade is RAM, but I am still managing to do fine with 8 GB.

    • @Tech-geeky
      @Tech-geeky ปีที่แล้ว

      We are used to the eco-system, everything just working together, SMB networking etc... but the exception is always "upgrades". Why is that ??
      Its almost like we can't get used to it... We goit used to everything else limited about Apple, but its probably because it was less upgradable before than it is now...
      I would still say, your in the eco-system... We know Apple better.

  • @randombloke10
    @randombloke10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yeah my 2016 15” Pro is solid, had a top case change FOC after 2 years so my battery and keyboard is in great shape, still runs like new and the screen is awesome! I don’t want to leave my touchbar so these new rumoured 16” M1/2’s don’t have my exited but I do need something that’s less dependent on the fans at higher loads

    • @XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav
      @XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why?

    • @randombloke10
      @randombloke10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav why what? I’ve owned it nearly 5 years and thanks for the first couple of performance updates it runs better than when I first got it. For me the butterfly keyboard is perfection, I prefer a shallow key travel that I barely have to tap to work and I even like the obnoxiously loud thunks. I’ve played with the new style scissors and they just feel mushy but it’s just something I’ll have to adapt to when I decide on if I want the Apple Silicone 16” ones. The touchbar for me has worked perfectly 99.9% of the time with maybe 2 hiccups in my years of ownership but the adaptability of the function row for when I’m recording or editing without having to know every shortcut is great, moreover the proof of touch based digital inputs had been proven to be better than set in keys years back with the original iPhone, the more we can go towards fully adjustable display style keyboards, the better we can improve the user experience for everything, the only real downside would be repair costs but given that screens are reliable and non of the current system can be repaired as is then it wouldn’t be the end of the world

    • @cristibaluta
      @cristibaluta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was my only mac that didn't broke in crucial areas, but can't wait for M1x.

    • @dopameen6395
      @dopameen6395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just bought one for $500 with a missing SSD so I installed Big Sur on a external drive, man besides only being to run in safe mode, the machine is pretty clean and smooth like you I love the keyboard too, i type super fast with it the graphics are nice too….I’m only gonna be using for music production so all the other issues like ports and everything is irrelevant to me, I have desktop hackintosh with a i5 so I know this 16gb/i7 about to 10x better

  • @theencryptedpartition4633
    @theencryptedpartition4633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When I saw Luke doing that SD card joke, I thought: Damn, this guy is Hollywood star in another universe

  • @sh1121
    @sh1121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Luke, I don't know if you changed anything but the lighting now makes you look much nice and cleaner 😃

  • @mcresearch
    @mcresearch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I nominate my Mid-2015, 15.4" MBP? - Apple already replaced the delaminated screen but declined to do anything about the inflatable battery. The fans blow alarmingly often. The left speaker also became unusable so I had to disable it. I replaced the battery myself but the speaker was beyond my skill set. I'll keep it as long as I can and replace it with an iPad.

  • @imrankhan8922
    @imrankhan8922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this on my 2017 13 inch MacBook working just fine

  • @jonstrongman3292
    @jonstrongman3292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While I recently bought a M1 MacBook Pro, my 2011 MacBook Pro is still working just fine, which shows how great a machine that was, especially given the ports it has, how quiet it was for an intel machine.

  • @kamicokrolock
    @kamicokrolock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm still sour about losing the super drive. I replaced my TV and DVD player with my computer years ago and after upgrading last year have had to resort to home brewing my device so I can rip all my dvds because It's really difficult to balance a Mac AND an external dvd drive on your lap while having a late night movie marathon🤣

  • @ben_bot7289
    @ben_bot7289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    love the sd card acting! lol

    • @Mopsie
      @Mopsie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was gold

  • @xasmaniusvolk8416
    @xasmaniusvolk8416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When a product is so bad, even Apple gave you a better replacement

  • @matthewhowett493
    @matthewhowett493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simple way to replace the keyboard, Send it for a $250 apple battery replacement. As apple charges you for a battery and you get a all new topcase

  • @KLGnation
    @KLGnation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m so glad I decided to sell mine a few months back I knew It was on the verge of failing

  • @Stevel_
    @Stevel_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solid points. The only Mac's i'm buying right now are Apple Silicon (new) or mid 2015 and prior. Anything in between that's not fully depreciated doesn't make a ton on sense from a value perspective.

  • @batsai
    @batsai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not only great content, but great video quality as well! I still miss the 2014 Mac mini I scored off eBay as a work from machine before I could save up for one of the new M1 minis. That 2014 was a trooper.

  • @batsonelectronics
    @batsonelectronics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still push 2015 top spec'd MB Pros when someone needs a used machine. For the ports, easy to work on, keyboard, and reliability over the newer models. Apple did great for a few years allowing the thermal paste to be replaced without removing the logic board, until the 2016 model, where it requires a board removal. 2015 also has the SSD separate and not soldered onto the board like 2016 and up.

  • @ellilloyd64
    @ellilloyd64 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The 2019 16 inch doesn’t have the cursed butterfly keyboard and the thermal layout is different. I’d say it’s a radical departure from the previous models and worth investigating.

  • @Stop4MotionMakr
    @Stop4MotionMakr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:09 it's not every day you create an entirely new meme format. We have just witnessed one such instance.

  • @cS-jr8du
    @cS-jr8du 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I bought a 16” MacBook Pro a few weeks ago and It’s been great. Yeah, next Gem is coming soon, but this is fine for me

    • @gigago2529
      @gigago2529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you need it on short notice
      Or did you just not bother to wait?

    • @benjaminpuzzo7194
      @benjaminpuzzo7194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m about to do the same in the next month. Do you wish you had waited or does it suit your needs? If so, what are you using it for?

    • @Nick0408
      @Nick0408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benjaminpuzzo7194 you should wait for M1X if isn't urgent

    • @benjaminpuzzo7194
      @benjaminpuzzo7194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nick0408 need it in the next 2 weeks

    • @Nick0408
      @Nick0408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benjaminpuzzo7194 then buy the air the pro is useless I think

  • @rogeh5687
    @rogeh5687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2017 12 inch MacBook is one of the best computers I’ve ever owned. Such a zipply gorgeous little thing. I love love love love it so much.

  • @whyjordie
    @whyjordie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an external SD Card reader and an adapter for my USB-C to three USBs and I still got excited when you said possible built in SD card reader in the future

  • @MYCUNNYsob
    @MYCUNNYsob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love my 13“ macbook pro from 2016 :) but maybe im biased because my keyboard hasn‘t failed a single time (yet)

  • @Sisamuth
    @Sisamuth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you please one day talk about the titanium PowerBook G4

  • @sophie-144p7
    @sophie-144p7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t know how but you still make the older generation macs more interesting than some channels that only talk about new models and updates. Also thanks to you I snacked a 2015 MacBook Pro and and 2010 iMac for less than a new Mac mini and brought it up to todays standards and couldn’t be happier 👌

  • @DragonsinGenesisPodcast
    @DragonsinGenesisPodcast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    iMac also tossed out the Serial port, Parallel port, and SCSI port. People lost their minds when that happened… and then they all just bought USB printers and scanners and stopped complaining instantly.

    • @rockitMiC
      @rockitMiC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You forgot FireWire! ;)

    • @rushilkisoon
      @rushilkisoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that you can’t complain about innovation, but in this case, USB A is so widely used, that it makes sense to still include the port… the Mac mini is an example of where they went backwards and readded things that were removed

  • @jannis3356
    @jannis3356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol when i saw the thumbnail, i thougt you would be talking about the 2006 white Core Duo Macbook

  • @Joshmakey12
    @Joshmakey12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 2017 MacBook Pro is being repaired currently the third time. The Apple support told me that if it breaks again I would get a new Mac.

  • @leehonghui
    @leehonghui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang I have a 2017 MacBook Pro but 13”. Sadly it had to pay around $300 to fix one damn chip just because I didn’t charge it for a long time.

  • @slob5041
    @slob5041 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Luke the problem wasn't the fact they did usb c. It's the fact that they did it while only giving us 2 and removing everything else.

  • @furatceylan8
    @furatceylan8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i waited from 2016-2019 to get the 16" macbook pro ... then, shy of being 2 years old, i sold it and got myself an m1 air ... worth it

  • @davidcleves5868
    @davidcleves5868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got superrrrr lucky and avoided the 2016 & 2017 crsed pros and found a 15 inch 2018 macbook pro w 512gb ssd and 16gbs of ram for $800 !!! i got a fire deal...it was a gem

  • @jameslatief1
    @jameslatief1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A1534: The beginning of the Macbook Dark Ages. I am relieved to see Apple repented and went back to making good products in 2019.

  • @Garrettdx1988
    @Garrettdx1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The SSD straight up died on my mom's 2015 12" MacBook. I didn't realize it was a common issue.

  • @ismaelaraujo2238
    @ismaelaraujo2238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Getting the SD card back is like when someone you love break up with you and then later then wanna show up in your life again as nothing has ever happened… it’s like Beyoncé’s song Irreplaceable

  • @andy.morris
    @andy.morris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I owned the 2016 15” and now own the 2019 16” and honestly haven’t ever had any problems with either. Both were perfect laptops to me.

  • @MorbidGod391
    @MorbidGod391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly think the problem with the MacBook Pro 16-19 was the heat. The keyboards were being damaged because Apple didn’t have a good cooling system in place.
    I’ve had mine for like 3 years, and no problems yet. I’ve been very careful to keep it clean and I don’t use it as a main editing machine for long periods of time. And the fan hardly comes on.

  • @whothef_ckisari
    @whothef_ckisari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the 2016 mbp 5 yrs now, and never had a problem with the keyboard and it still works fine! I will wait till apple brings out a rlly good one.

  • @kushalraj
    @kushalraj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think some people aren’t super happy about more ports because USB C is more versatile. It’s all about use cases. I for one have no use for the SD card. The other reason is that thunderbolt 3/4 versatility means that if someone needs to use 10 Gigabit internet or the next generation memory card reader, they only need to pick up a new dongle/adaptor. Not a new laptop. Like how to some DP is better HDMI. with thunderbolt you can use what you want. If they can keep the 4 thunderbolt ports and add more ports, then I’ve no qualms about it. If I have to lose out on versatility for ports I have no use for though, I’d personally not be happy. So we all have our use cases and trades that we’re able to make. Apple is able to serve everybody with versatility vs the latest tech ports that might be outdated in 4-5 years.

  • @Logicalx
    @Logicalx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Probably lucky, but I love my 13" MBP 2018 with x4 ports. As I don't need a 15", the smaller version seems a good choice.

    • @kingjay239
      @kingjay239 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one of those too, and I love it.

  • @jesseraphael2423
    @jesseraphael2423 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had 2019 13 inch MacBook Pro, the motherboard cooked itself twice

  • @orangera1nstechstuff344
    @orangera1nstechstuff344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t logically justify a 2016/2017 15 inch mbp. As the performance is poor and reliability is bad. For 2018-2019 mbp, I think those are good, (have some issues you might experience.) but have similar preformance to m1, but becoming cheaper.

  • @danielyaseen
    @danielyaseen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:37 The SD card horror movie, rolling out (maybe) this October!

  • @chriscasillas
    @chriscasillas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got a 2017 12-inch Macbook and it's been great for me since I bought it new! It still runs well for me and none of the problems listed in this video have demonstrated themselves. It gets a little warm if you use it on your lap, but on a desk, or on a vertical stand like I have it on, even makes that a non-issue.

  • @fortimusprime
    @fortimusprime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:37 That earned you a like instantly. (I usually wait till the end to give the like, but this was fantastic 😅😂)

  • @LoLStaticX
    @LoLStaticX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still rocking a Late-2013 15” here 😄

    • @bobweiram6321
      @bobweiram6321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best model ever made.

    • @gregordiseth6651
      @gregordiseth6651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one as well, and I love it! I can use it most of the day on its {original} battery!

  • @hamzasafdari9360
    @hamzasafdari9360 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bit where you showed what was happening in the peoples minds was hilarious🤣

  • @lakshmipriya1676
    @lakshmipriya1676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember people saying "Mac's never fail"

    • @dani01949
      @dani01949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. They still make bank on that idea while their software updates (Big Sur) crash horribly. A.SIMPLE.SOFTWARE.UPDATE.

  • @CHiCguitar
    @CHiCguitar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not the fortune telling about the 15" M2 MBA lol ... watching this on one!

  • @mckiki4029
    @mckiki4029 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got this mac one and a half years back, to get me through my Master's and some light creative work (along with my iPad pro) and it works fairly well. Nothing compared to my 2015 Mac pro that lasted me 7 years (2015-2022), but I needed something cheap and cheerful, and a MacBook. I got mine refurbished (with a 2017 replacement keyboard) and it worked very well for 7 months until I updated my OS where it reinstalled some firmware (I assume its e-waste from a company) so for a good 8 months I had no working laptop (had to save up) and it was essentially a pretty paperweight, which was a shame because its in fantastic condition and clean inside but the refurbisher didn't completely remove the firmware. Last month I got bored one night and did some more digging around and I found a "life saving tutorial" on how to remove it and it worked so I now have a working laptop and can now wait until the Black Friday sales to buy a new one (here's hoping), so far so good. I tested downloading, reinstalling the OS and the firmware isn't coming back so its definitely gone now. Thats definitely a risk you have buying a refurbished laptop, a lot of them are work machines that are given to independent refurbishing companies as E-Waste and they dont always remove the firmware properly. So if you're not extremely tech savy and have time on your hands then you've wasted money. Don’t risk it!
    However, should you buy this from a reputable seller? Personally, I would go back and get a well specked 2014-2015 pro retina mac. Because of the terrible keyboard on the 2016, I mean before the issues I had with the firmware (which I sorted) I did have some problems with sticking keys and the touch bar is quite a dumb idea (dont be fooled, the hate is justified), despite all this I'll definitely be holding onto mine for another 5 months. Its a "okay" machine (despite its flaws) but the 2013-2015 is a "great" machine and it still looks great today. The 2012 is "god-tier" and a steal (if you look about) and you can upgrade the ram and hard-drive (to an SSD), if you don't need the retina display and don't mind an older design that still holds up today (especially when the new macbooks are starting to get thicker anyways) that could be a great option.
    All I'm saying if you are wanting a modern aesthetic (and don't mind the very probable flaws), extended software support, yeah go (with caution) with the 2016. If you don't mind an older looking device that works solidly for normal tasks, school work, light creative tasks and don't mind looking around youtube on how to install the latest (compatible) mac OS with OpenCore legacy patcher then the 2012 is a great option. If you want the best of both worlds then a i7, 16gb 256 gb (I wouldn’t go below these specs personally) 2013-2015 is the way to go in my opinion and is arguably much better than the 2016, you’ll likely have less problems and decent performance, oh and a good selection of ports.
    Everything is running well (fingers-cross) so waiting until the M1 14 Inch are either back in the apple refurb store or I get a good deal brand new, I'll then sell my current Mac, probably as parts to be honest as I don't want to run the risk of selling it to a "normal" consumer that thinks they're getting a good deal and buy it as a present for their kid at least then I'll be selling it to someone that is likely to understand the pros and cons of this particular mac and is looking for spare parts

  • @idgamingfederation202
    @idgamingfederation202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wife is a TV/Radio and Film educator about 5 years ago
    for light video editing, officer work and some photoshop work we got her Late 2011 15" MBP | 2.4 GHz Core i7 8GB | Intel HD Graphics 3000 512 MP, White Screen of Dead all day. so we ended up getting her a new 2020 M1 13" now I'm sitting here with a late 2011 unit trying to get it to run, but I don't have the mental energy to crack it open swap out the spinning rust, expand the ram (as everything I've read states I can push it to 16GB) and maybe Thermal pad the CPU and GPUs as in this Texas heat I know using a paste will just have me back in there in a year's time to reapply again so feel like thermal pad is the way to go.

  • @jakredpath2505
    @jakredpath2505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’d love a 15 inch MacBook Air 😭

  • @LuminousPlasma
    @LuminousPlasma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Broooo rippppp I actually got my Late 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro right when it came out and I feel like it’s a ticking time bomb. The cycle count is low on the battery and overall I would say it runs like new. However, I did get a stuck “b” key but was able to fix it with some compressed air. For anyone wanting to preserve their Late 2016 MacBook Pros, make sure to NEVER eat over it and ALWAYS wipe down the key caps when you begin to notice oils from your fingertips on it to prevent ScreenGate. I also installed Macs Fan Control on mine so the Mac won’t kill itself when it begins to throttle when editing 4K movies. Hopefully this helps y’all out 🤞🏽🤞🏽

  • @umairnazim3298
    @umairnazim3298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My wife still uses a 2016 Rose Gold 12” MacBook.
    It’s honestly the most beautiful MacBook I’ve ever seen and it works like a charm to this day. I would definitely upgrade from my 2016 MacBook Pro if Apple redesigns their M2 MacBook Air to look more like the 12” specially since they’ve already removed the fan.

  • @zayyirthomas789
    @zayyirthomas789 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im using a 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro right now and have been for over 5 years, zero issues.

  • @jasep-abc
    @jasep-abc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved mine! I used a keyboard condom because they are super temperamental but other than that it was great as a daily driver and is still going strong as a hand me down to a family member. That said, I completely agree at second hand prices you'd get much better value on a refurb M1.

  • @ethanol2733
    @ethanol2733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Apple is going to make the next MacBook Pros 14 and 16 inch, they might as well make 12 and 14 inch versions of the MacBook Air, scrapping all the 13 inch laptops entirely

  • @15458434
    @15458434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Weird, I have been using my 15" from 2016 since I bought it as my daily driver I never had problems with the keyboard. And as a daily driver I mean I'm using it for work 40 hours a week.

    • @robertleidner9703
      @robertleidner9703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You don’t need much for email.

    • @triforcelink
      @triforcelink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertleidner9703 Still need a working keyboard!

    • @spencerrr9878
      @spencerrr9878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your one of the lucky ones then lol

    • @NormanF62
      @NormanF62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’ve been fortunate! If it lasts without issues, count yourself blessed. This is not a MBP I’d buy for all the tea in China. If something goes wrong, I’ve an expensive paperweight.

    • @Jack-rr9nh
      @Jack-rr9nh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mine stopped working after two weeks and I only did light tasks, same thing happened to my co-worker

  • @QueenShanine
    @QueenShanine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you hope your MacBook isn’t the one this video is about 😂 ( though I do have a 15 inch 2011 MBP 😳)

    • @angelabby2379
      @angelabby2379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine is the worst I didn’t expect that 😭 the worst part is its so expensive and i actually begged for 2015 second hand cause its way cheaper
      And then my dad decide to suprise me with it 2,8k macbook

  • @IKEAsharkBBL
    @IKEAsharkBBL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok but I’m here watching on my 2017 12” MacBook…

  • @investor.z
    @investor.z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The 2019 16 inch macbook has a good keyboard though...

    • @vihaansingha8340
      @vihaansingha8340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s talking about it’s predecessor.

    • @damian9303
      @damian9303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vihaansingha8340 He was talking about both

  • @fireworx_925
    @fireworx_925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this, shows 2016 15”
    .
    .
    *stares at my 2017 15”*
    “You’re a good boi”

  • @alexcarrillo5510
    @alexcarrillo5510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Vintage Apple BLACK Macbook that I still use it, all I have to do is replaced the Keyboard is I connected with a external keyboard that also lights up, on which I have a MAC repair person connection.... I like it....

  • @bigmaxcc
    @bigmaxcc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:37 I love the skit
    I have a family 😭😭😭
    Do it
    Hahahahahaha 😂🤣

  • @rajneeshchatta1657
    @rajneeshchatta1657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used my mid2010 13in MacBook Pro for 10 years straight without many problems till I sent it for a swim thru my carelessness. Now I’m on a M1 MacBook Air

  • @ZzzsamzzzG59
    @ZzzsamzzzG59 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly the 12" macbook is way to over hated. i had the 2017 12" I5 512gb ssd model for 2 years, and i used it daily, video watching, emails, school ETC. Always had at least %30 battery at the end of the day, never got TOO hot, and the keyboard never once failed me, never had to use the applecare Warranty, and no delamination. i now have the M1 Pro and i miss my 12". i loved the lightness so much.

  • @KanwarAnand
    @KanwarAnand 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A cousin of mine spent 1100 USD in repairing his late 2016 MBP 15 touch bar.

  • @cristibaluta
    @cristibaluta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have it and agree the keyboard is annoying, did not even bothered to replace it. However, i had many macs since mac mini g4 and this is the only one that didn't broke in crucial areas.

  • @jalabi99
    @jalabi99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Luke: "The late-2016 15-inch MacBook Pro is the worst MacBook ever!"
    Phil Schiller: "Why did we make such a crappy machine? Courage."

  • @raineypiechowski3032
    @raineypiechowski3032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 2016 15" MacBook Pro rn: 😐

  • @F_K3NT_D
    @F_K3NT_D 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best Buy has the 2020 M1 MB Air for $799 right now with a student discount. Unbelievable price for such a great laptop