Scream VI (2023) - Spoiler Review (All My Issues & 3 RIDICULOUS Plot Holes)
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- I have now seen Scream VI twice. I still enjoy the movie overall but GOOD LORD are there some glaring issues. Here we'll discuss some awesome scenes that were standouts as well as discuss all of my issues in the 3rd act.
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What if one of them were talking to Danny he could secretly be a Ghostface and be the first one to make it to another movie?
Hey Cody the Ethan thing makes perfect sense it was for a alibi plus he is an actor just like his brother, sister and father. Oh also the Danny character is an aspiring actor too by the way so he can secretly be a Ghostface killer but not revealed till the next movie.
The Ethan Character & Quinn the Third 3rd Ghostface killer on the subway train with Mindy made sense why he left Her alive only to build a possible stronger alibi if he was among Her, Sam, Tara, Chad & the rest of the group If he has Mindy’s TRUST then it would throw off suspicion from Samantha and the others. Maybe possibly only to spare her here to have her killed with the rest of her friends to show Samantha’s failure And proof that she is a killer.
My son 65 year old grandma said it was the cop during that same scene 😂😂😂
Exactly what i was going to say, it builds his trust up getting Chad and Mindy of his back gaining their trust for the final act if he needed it.
At my showing when Chad was wheeled out at the end with a paramedic going "We have another one!" some older guy up front threw up his arms and yelled out "Oh come on!" which drew quite a round of laughter from the crowd. 😄
SAME!
AGREED
When I saw it, I was that guy 😞
😂😂😂
@@laquitasmith6774 this didnt happen to you.
I laughed out loud when Officer Bailey ran towards Sam with a gun in his hand while she ran towards him with no weapon lol
Fuckin ridiculous! LOL
I was dying laughing in my theater at that part.
I mean... how do you justify that?! Such bullshit. Like bro, SHOOT HER! Why even have a gun in his hand if you're just going to charge her. Horrible writing.
Same!
To be fair they [the filmmakers] made it clear he was out of ammo at that point 🔫
Chad is the new Dewey - surviving against crazy odds. But Chad's survival was crazier and very disappointing.
The only vague explanation I can think of with Ethan helping Mindy on the train is that he saw she was still alive and didnt want to risk looking suspicious by just leaving because if she survives and mentions that Ethan was with her and just left, that would make him very suspicious.
Agree, that would be my thinking on that one.
The phone call with Mindy absolutely makes no sense though
agreed
The only reason for the killer to be standing over the other killer(quinn) in the bedroom that I can think of was to get Danny's attention. I've only seen it the once but when I was watching it I thought he's trying to get Danny attention, quinn already knew about Sam and Danny at that stage.
Exactly, idk why the host is so confused about this lol. She clearly wasn’t dead and was still joking around. If he gives himself away there by running away or attacking her (which would be really stupid considering he wasn’t in costume) then she could immediately identify him and have him caught.
@@raystinkle4652 mindy did work it out and knew it was him though so basically he gave himself away or she worked it out, like she said. I guess it was obvious to her at that point
I like the opening scene but it would've been cool to see a Scream movie where one of the killers is revealed from the start and we see them infiltrate the friend group. It would've also given us the chance to see one of the protagonists actually kill/unmask Ghostface before the finale
Definitely agree! When we got the reveal, I thought that was so cool! And then we saw he already knew Tara. I really wanted to see him in the friend group.
@@jerikaljgdk It was a very eerie scene. Definitely could've been interesting
I was about to be upset if they revealed one of the killers. A good mystery serial killer (with a coherent story and decent motive) is half the fun of these films
@@victoriaredeker4366 You could've killed him off halfway through the movie and reveal the others in the finale
@victoriaredeker4366 but then it could've been cool if Jason was taking orders from an unknown other killer
I was so upset at the chad living decision because I actually felt something when chad was “killed” and I felt like that was just a cheap move by the creators of the film. Quite angering
You need to get out more. Develop relationships with real people
NO ONE DIED!
@@secularbelt what the hell you talking about?
@Cannoli The Gamer yea exactly, also a film is supposed to emote a reaction from you and to set it up in a way that actually made us feel sad for Tara and the other characters for losing a close friend and then negate that by having him be fine in the end just discredits whatever hard work they did to accomplish the original emotion in the first place. And mindy def should have been taken out lol
Agreed. When he died in the first movie supposedly I didn't care because they had no connection but in this movie when he died it was for an actual sacrifice to save others and it hit... Until it didn't.
I think I figured out the subway scene. If you watch closely, Ethan purposely stays behind the group and never attempts to hold Mindy back. His plan was to miss the subway so he could regroup with Quinn on the next subway. Mindy getting on their subway wasn't part of the plan so Quinn tried to kill her so it doesn't complicate things. Quinn isn't able to kill Mindy because the subway doors open and she doesn't want to miss her stop. Ethan checks to confirm that Mindy is dead but when she isn't, he panicks and helps her to preserve his alibi.
Not a bad theory but you might be giving the writers too much credit
It’s good but I don’t think that’s what the writers were going for
@@RobertMere The part about Ethan panicking may not be true but I do think Ethan's plan was to get on the subway with Quinn so they could head to the theater. I don't believe they expected Mindy to be on their subway because Ethan doesn't try hold her back or stop her
@@ericgarcia3640 yeah probably. you did great job tho with coming up with that theory!
Great theory!
Scream 6 opening scene definitely lead me to pinpoint the detective as being the main killer. Scream 4 had the best main killer reveal and creepiest motive by far. Jill was a straight nut job beyond psychotic.
The Jill killer reveal and motive is why S4 is my favorite scream movie
@@isaiahwilliams2332Omg same for some reason it's just superior.
Sonny surviving in The Godfather would be more believable than Chad surviving that attack.
I wouldn't be shocked if Bailey somehow survived too lol
Even though I loved the movie I can say Chad had some unbelievable plot armor the biggest plot armor in a recent horror movie so far.
True, but the same can be said of Dewey in the original trilogy. He gets practically disemboweled in the first two movies (especially the second one) and still somehow survives when he gets medical attention hours later.
@@howardroark3736 it's really the context between how Dewey and Chad's plot armors were laid out. With Dewey in Scream 1 he just got a stab in the back, and while Scream 2 ups the plot armor, it isn't on the same level as Chad. Chad literally gets multiple stabs from almost every part of his body by more than 1 ghostface in a film where Ghostface is at his most brutal. The leaps in armor there is above anything with Dewey. And at least with Dewey those plot armors began to run their course as each movie progressed and culminated into him having nerve damage and walking with a limp by 2022. Dewey also wasn't well enough to get up and kiss Gale when being wheeled out either.
It also contradicts other character deaths, since the original idea behind Randy's death was to retcon it in Scream 3 with the video tape scene being replaced with his appearance entirely which was going to be explained away with he was in hiding. But they decided against that since it would be unrealistic.
New Hollywood rules, you have to be very cautious when you kill off characters of color or lgbtq+
@@Surgemaster2012 my understanding for scream 5 at least is that amber stabbed chad rapidly but not deeply like how sam stabs bailey way way more but he’s still talking and thanking her for sparing him. I think Chads wounds weren’t super deep. This movie though i honestly don’t know how he lived it but i’m glad because he’s my favorite character.
@@YntagAwful movie. Awful character. And you have awful taste
I honestly figured it out when Quinn was talking about her dead brother. I was like,
“Welp, that was Ritchie” 😂
It kinda rhymed with a character with something similar going on in the TV series, so it drew my suspicion immediately as well.
Same!!!!!
Yes!!, plus her hair color. Totally in on it
Shit, most of the dialogue for the core four scenes bothered me so much, I competely missed the dead brother, and was super confused when Bailey said both his kids were dead.
Officer Bailey said both his kids r dead, idk why but I was like welp they r relayed 2 Rirxhie
23:59 That also explained why Mrs Loomis was never near Sidney while she was doing the "Debbie Salt" reporter act. She knew she'd recognise her.
The only killer I knew ahead of time was Ethan. He was very obvious in my opinion. The other two went over my head maybe because I’m just stupid lmao. They actually had me believing it could be Kirby and I was feeling very salty about that. I’m glad Kirby wasn’t a killer.
That is excaclty how it went down for me too. I was 200% sure for Ethan and for the most part of the movie i was very sure that Kirby was the second killer. I completely missed the other two that actually were the killers
Same
Right
I crossed them all off because I thought they would go with a insane plot twist like Sidney being the killer and her rumored uninvolvement in the film was a hoax or Stu would return
I was the same. I thought yep it’s Ethan cause they are going back and forth with trying to make u think it’s him but the other two went over my head.
I actually laughed out loud in the cinema when the main killer charges at Sam instead of shooting her with the gun he clearly had in his hand...
The only killer that was SUPER OBVIOUS to me was Ethan. If my roommate explained to me, "There's a killer after me and he'll kill me and everyone associated with me!" my reaction wouldn't be to continue to tag along with them! Especially if said murders began to happen to their other roommates. Watching the movie, Ethan kept coming back to join them and I kept thinking, "WHY ARE YOU HERE!? WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU?" Obviously, to kill them himself!
But nothing irritated me more than, after the unmasking, everyone was suddenly a moustache-twirling cackling Villain of the Week -- Laughing maniacally and acting all crazy and shit... I mean obviously if you plan to murder others, you've got a level of crazy to you, but you don't have to go full Zaney.
Last gripe: Sam stabs Ethan like, 6 times in the chest before being chased up onto that balcony... but minutes later, Ethan is under Tara, swinging his knife around and cackling like a moron. Like, stabbing doesn't seem to matter at all in this movie unless it suddenly does. It drove me crazy.
I agree with all of this, but I had Bailey and Quinn pegged as the killers right away, so I went with the rule of 2 and just assumed Ethan was the super obvious "red herring".
More than that Ethan wasn’t absolutely touch by his sister “death” on her murder scene. 🤷🏼♂️
@@jkicustoms8519 You realize they weren't shown as brother and sister until the end of the movie...
The only killer I guessed was Ethan in literally the first 5 minutes. Looking back detective Bailey is really obvious, but I was so busy being confused on his character and line delivery to even consider it a possibility 😂
As a New Yorker, I just wanna explain that the three day Halloween celebration thing is realistic. It’s Halloweekend, costumes the whole weekend, drinks the whole weekend. That’s why there’s the party + people still on costumes on the subway.
Awesome vid tho
Thanks for that info!
Yeah, especially in college campuses or college towns. They'll have huge parties just for the hell of it and when it comes to holidays; it's an invitation to get extra smashed lol
@@CodyLeachYT watch scream tv series it’s great 👍
It's like that in lots of places
We do the same thing every year over here in Cali. Lol
No, you're not alone. It was PAINFULLY obvious he was the killer. My eyes were rolling the entire damn film because of it. It was easy to pinpoint Quinn because we never saw her actually get stabbed and if her father is a killer, it stands to reason she is too. And it was easy to pinpoint Ethan because he was the only character wearing plaid. At least one killer in each movie always wears plaid. Billy, Mrs. Loomis, Roman, Jill, Charlie and Richie... All in plaid, all killers.
EXACTLY
Oh wow that plaid thing is really a thing? I never picked up on that. I wonder if that was a conscious decision because that would be kind of a bad choice.
@@christopherramirez3757 Yeah it wasn't pointed out to me until recently and sure enough, this movie followed the trend. So I hope they ixnay it in future films.
I think all the killers besides the first have been obvious to be honest at least 1 of them.
@@boomstickcritique902 billy and stu are incredibly obvious
I do think Nancy Loomis had the best Ghostface reveal because she had the element of surprise behind her. Yes you could suspect her being the GF, with how she acts around Gale and whatnot. But the reveal was about her being Billy's mother and using a different alias entirely, rather than knowing if she was GF or not. Which first time viewers wouldn't know. Since they don't really give much hints at her being Billy's mother. Plus Mickey as her accomplice with his own motive as well really helped since it was used as a way to draw off suspicion to herself, as Mickey doing the bulk of the kills allowed us to draw off attention to her. With Scream 6, they throw way too many hints that it is somehow connected to Richie, especially with how much of Sam's GF calls were using Richie's number. Plus DetectIve Bailey was too obvious!
I do like Scream IV a lot tough, it is up there for my favorite film of the franchise. It is probably below the original to me. To be fair, I always saw the killer's Ghostface persona as having some amount of powers of its own, since once they are revealed, a lot of their reflexes, speed and whatnot go away.
The worst part for me was how the cop was able to swap out Quinn’s body after her “murder”??? That’s fucking ridiculous.
The best way I described this movie to my friend was "It starts out amazing, and with each 15 minute interval progressively gets WORSE. Considering what some characters go through and survived I wouldn't be surprised if Dewey was alive after all."
And the killer?!?!?!
@@HereIsWisdom1318 All bark, no bite. Literally killed none of the core characters. Sure he was "brutal" but why should I care when a character can probably getting hit by a truck going at 90 MPH and survive. That's the level of plot armor these characters have.
I was literally thinking jeez Dewey is still alive going by this standard of mortality 😂
Yes, unfortunately this is getting ridiculous ☹️😢
In regards to the Ethan helping Mindy in the subway scene , to me it feels like there was a deleted scene where after the paramedics arrived he tried to finish the job a bit later or something along the same lines. Only reason I'm thinking this is because at the end when Mindy reappears , she says Ethan and Detective Bailey are the Killers, even though in the subway scene she apologies to him for thinking he was the killer . Just my train of thought anyway 🙌😂
Good point
He was basically just covering his ass with all the eye witnesses who would have been interviewed after. She was never really a proper target, so they could get away with her surviving the attack I guess
@@certifiedscott That's quite a fair point as well tbh
Hmm good point
highly enjoyable movie with so many plot holes that rewatches will hurt
The first scene you talk about actually makes sense. Quinn is on the phone talking to his dad, probably going over their plan for the last time. Ethan, dressed as Ghostface, is waiting for her sister to get off the phone. He probably doesn't even notice Danny, but to him (and us) it looks like Ghostface is about to kill Quinn. This is not a ruse, Danny is actually watching them plan their attack.
I did not think of it like that, I figured once it was revealed she was one of them it was just easier to have someone killing people who the main 4 think is dead. The Roman twist but good.
I absolutely agree ! Ethan was also taking care of the guy Quinn had over , hence why he’s dead in the bathtub . I’m assuming they could hear her having a conversation from the dining room table they were all sitting at . Wasn’t too far from her bedroom door . I also believe Ethan was helping her apply the prosthetics necessary to fake her death .
Yeah it made sense to me.
You know what I actually love that ideal it makes so much sense and honestly makes that scene way better!!
Yes, this make sense 👍🏼
The "?" next to Stu's name was also next to Mickey's. I don't think its questioning whether he's dead or not, but rather questioning where his mask is at since it hasn't been dropped yet at that point.
This. I’m rewatching the movie. I took mental notes of this video and got to that scene. There are notes on the first two where the mask was. Kind of like Clue.
The Ghostface reveal was obvious for me too.
And I’m glad you came around more to Kirby. I saw her as older and a little hardened from her trauma, but still had the same “cool girl” attitude at heart. She’s always been my fav and the most relatable character in the series for me. I just wish we’d gotten a little more of her, like you said.
Scream 3 grows on me more with every rewatch. Weak opening and reveal but so entertaining. Gale and "Gale" are everything!
Yes!!! It’s literally my most rewatched!!!!
Scream 2 my favorite
Mickey might be my favorite bad guy
There're so many inconsistencies to Detective Bailey's involvement on top of Gale not discovering Richie' Parents are. At least for Scream 2, Sydney has met Billy's Mom in the past which adds more depth to the Loomis and Prescott lore. Richie's involvement wasn't that deep with Sam since she never met any of Richie's family, and for them to suddenly jump in for revenge doesn't do as well as Scream 2 killer motive.
Here’s something they could do to make the killer reveal more interesting:
Make the killer someone from a previous movie, because if you think back through all the scream movies, they’ve never done that. It’s always been someone who’s introduced in that movie
I was pretty convinced they'd actually do that, and suspected Tara for the longest time because of it.
Having said that, I was not in any way surprised at the identity of the "mastermind" at the end. The clues pointing at a police officer were numerous.
Just bring back Stu and have him manipulate Wednesday Addams into becoming a killer. If I'm not mistaken, she is also Billy's daughter and we all know Stu had a thing for Billy 👀
@@razzprince2877 Tara is not Billy’s daughter
@Razz Prince Tara & Sam are half siblings. And eh if they bring Stu back Idk if I'd like him manipulating Tara into it personally
@@jeffalexgreco I was a bit hesitant to put that as I wasn't 100% but thanks for clarifying. I think Tara is a weak character despite Ortega being a good actress so I would at least he fine with her being the killer next film, Stu should either be the killer or I wouldn't be surprised if we got a redemption story where Stu is looked at as the killer and he turns out to help the survivors and makes it clear that he was genuinely manipulated in the original Scream film.
How come nobody in the police force knew that Ritchie was Bailey’s son?! He never introduced his son to his friends and colleagues?! How come Kirby never found about it I’m the FBI database?! So weird! Lol! And Quinn was about to play dead her whole life?!
😂
That last question cracked me up 😆
Easy answer to your first question is he transferred there when Quinn started college so he was relatively new in the NYPD.
@@jeffalexgreco I’m talking about the police force in general, not a specific police station in NYPD.
I feel that Gale leaving the closet is actually fitting for her character. Gale has always been the one that had too much of an ego and wants to be a part of the Ghostface story. Additionally, she’s probably completely fed up with the Ghostface situation, especially with him riling her up about Dewey. It makes sense to me personally, that she would leave that closet to possibly kill Ghostface.
She gay?
🙄Ok 3C Films 😅 I see what y’all mean but I still don’t buy it. Gale might willingly put herself in danger for the sake of a story or a mystery BUT when it comes time for her actual interaction with ghostface, she always runs for the hills to get away. It’s made most clear in Scream 2 and then again in Scream 3 and 4. So since she was placed in immediate danger in her loft, after running and fighting for her LIFE, it makes NO SENSE for her to ONE use up all her bullets from behind the door AND going out the door to go find the killer. It was dumb and not in her character to be this reckless after 6 movies. Again, difference between putting herself in danger for a story and doing dumb shit when she’s actually face to face with the killer.
Yeah I think it could be fitting as well… how many protagonists decide they are done running and take it to the killer… Sidney did it.
I felt like Billy and Stu kinda gave themselves away a little bit during that scene where they are having lunch or whatever next to the fountain in Scream (1996). Also, Billy and Stu intimidating Randy at the video store was pretty suspect.
in hindsight they really are quite obvious lol. I frankly am very slow with those sort of things so, I had my suspicions but didn't know for sure. my best friend claims that Billy was clear as day for her and I get it. the thing about Scream 1 is despite these seemingly obvious hints, everything else still makes it so entertaining (imo)
@@MoonDevoured Oh, Scream (1996) is still a great film regardless. A horror classic and one of the all time greats despite the "flaws" or "nitpicks" people have about the film.
Lol NO ONE thought Billy AND Stu would be the killers. The twist was it was two killers. It was something new at the time. Also when Billy got “killed” it was incredibly done and everyone thought he was dead
@@greatestnitemare6626I suspected Quinn in scream 6, and she supposedly got killed too, so there was a lot of people who suspected Billy and Stu your point or debate or argument is completely fallacy...
Loved the Ice Nine Kills sticker on the fridge at the beginning. Definitely a "blink and you'll miss it" kind of thing but I appreciated it so much considering they have a song based on Scream and are getting more involved in the horror genre as a whole
I had suspicions about the killers in Scream 5 but in this one, I had no doubt in my mind that it was Mr. Bailey.
But was mr bailey one of the ones in a scream mask or did he orchestrate the two killers? I have no idea. He was the mastermind but did he also dress up and attack, making 3 killers?
It’s always hard for me to figure out the killers because I think they are trying to make you think it’s them to throw you off the real killers. Then with the reveals I’m always disappointed
Yeah. I find it more enjoyable to just pay attention, but not spend the whole movie trying to guess. I just let it happen, and then I double check the clues in my subsequent watches.
Ughhhh - those Dermot Mulroney line deliveries. I felt the same way about ’em.
The Psycho 2 reference between Mindy and Kirby got a huge pop out of me.
Definitely would have handled the Chad stabbing differently. I also would have loved seeing him kill one of the Ghostfaces during that scene.
He was in a good serial killer movie called Copycat.
@@spenser9908 yes!
As a huge fan of the original, I think my problem with these movies (the newer Screams) is that I give them the benefit of the doubt and I’m like “No they won’t do that, that’s far too obvious” and then I find myself rolling my eyes when the killer is revealed. The reveal in this movie really tainted the rest of the film for me. Great points you highlighted here!
Same!
you mean... like in the OG's? ok
I did have a problem with how does no one know what Richie’s family look like, why was Ethan helping Mindy after she got stabbed, and why did Dermott Mulroney not shoot Sam lol. Still a very enjoyable 4 out of 5 stars for me though.
Ethan helped mindy so she can go back and say Ethan helped and take the suspicion off him.
Mindy was supposed to die on the subway but once Ethan saw she was alive, he was screwed and decided to help her to keep suspicion off him.
See I kind of agree with the above theory. Mindy was meant to die on the train but she doesn't. She's already suspicious of Ethan and had messaged the group saying he's ghostface. Naturally, it's wise for Ethan to say he helped her so if she came back later he could use her as an alibi. The only thing that doesn't make sense to me yet is how she found out it was him and the detective.
@SUCKED MINDY survived. He’s not talking about the people on the subway, mindy survived and he was still there (and a killer) hmmm wouldn’t you want to help someone who just got stabbed so it doesn’t blow your cover with the rest of the group with her still being alive😂
@SUCKED THERE IS MULTIPLE ghostface KILLERS, do you not think the survivors Know this with the 6th Entry into the franchise. It honestly makes perfect sense to me🤷♂️
The bit about Stu being the one that killed Dewey and (almost) Gale actually sounds plausible. I also think everything is pointing to Stu being the mastermind and the Ghostface for the next movie.
In the words of Stu let's face it baby these days you gotta have a sequel lol.
As much as I'd love a Stu return, I feel like it'd only work well with Sidney being back too. I feel like the weight of the moment wouldn't be as great cause it wouldn't feel as personal between Stu and Sam as it would with Stu and Sidney
@@bird1729 I feel like Sidney is coming back in 7. I think by then they’ll work something out with her.
@Jewel Castle I thought for the longest time that Tara would be one of the killers. The opening scene made it clear that the two fake ghostfaces would be targeting her, so who'd have a better motive to kill them?
I think bringing back Stu could work and I don’t mind the mastermind aspect of it. There is a line in 5 where Amber admits to Gale that she killed Dewey but I still like the idea of fixing that plot hole. Bringing Stu back could bring Sidney and Gale back on the chopping block and possibly not making it out alive while he also tries to turn Sam to be some kind of disciple 🤷🏻♂️ it’s a little convoluted and Saw-esque but still.
The giveaway for me was Quinn mentioning that she'd lost her brother. I guessed then that it was Richie, which would make her and her dad the killers.
What I Did Not Like
I felt the third act was lazy the last movie third act was way better and the motive was just a copy and paste of Mrs. Loomis motive just a sick parent getting revenge on those that was involved in their child death and speaking on Mrs. Loomis I didn't like that Sam didn't even acknowledge Mrs. Loomis who is her grandmother was also a Ghostface Ethan mentioned Mrs. Loomis but Sam only want to acknowledge her father as Ghostface you had two family members as Ghostface. Also Tara and Chad becoming a couple I don't know if I like yet and the fake outs wasn't really done all that good and I felt the excuse of Sidney whereabouts in going into hiding after hearing news Ghostface is back a little bit contradict her role in the last movie.
What I Did Like
Despite me not liking the motive at all however I do like that the motive has nothing to do with Billy and Stu and I really thought the motive had ties to Stu actually but anyway this the first time the motive revolves around another Ghostface the story revolves around Richie basically he's Billy and his father is Mrs. Loomis with help from Richie brother and sister and we see Richie and Amber motive which I thought was weak about them trying to make their own movie but we see they have followers of that motive trying to finish what they started so we see they made a lot of waves with their motive.
It's a decent movie Scream do not have a single bad installment and 3 is included that's not a bad movie neither but this new installment I'm in between with this and the last movie the tension was really high in this film this time and Sam, Tara, Mindy and Chad are a lot more developed in this movie even though I wish Mindy was killed off but compared to the first time we were introduced to them they got better development but I got to watch this movie at leat two more times seen it twice already but I need more view on it.
7:18 I love Chad! He’s probably my favorite of the 4 new leads and especially in this movie. I just love his attitude, like for example when they find out that Ghostface is back and Sam’s boyfriend is with them and he’s just like “ok handsome dude bye bye get the fuck out.” 😂
This is the guy who cockblocked a guy, called him a rapist, and then made a move on the same girl? Then has a cringe speech about them being the "core four", right before fleeing at the first sign of ghostface, leaving the women alone? Then acting all tough the the next day to his roommate? Uhh, where was that toughness when it counted, bro? He was awful.
Couple of things. 1, Gale was emboldened because she finally felt she had control in her apartment against ghost face, which explains why she was brave enough to clear her home; also remember she was a reporter, not a trained PMC. 2. What if Stu is alive, but helps the Carpenter sisters out of respect for Billy. Ghost Face vs Ghost Face action in 7? 3. Keep it up man!
That could be possible. After all, Billy was his "best friend" so he might feel an "obligation" out of respect for his old pal. That wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
Or... He tries to convince Billy's daughter to take the mantle and avenge her father. Those are the two only options I see to make Stu relevant in the next movie.
I agree I wanna see that. It'd be awesome!!! Someone send this idea to the writers
I don't think you're alone on predicting the killers, because I called it about 30 minutes in. What tipped me off was the killer saying, basically forget your movie while killing the dude in the opening. This tipped me off that this would be a revenge plot. Then, Dermot Mulroney's daughter said she had a dead brother and her dad just joined the NYPD when she started college. Gee, ain't that convenient. The 3rd dude was just obvious.
When Detective Bailey came out and said my family’s dead literally the whole theater was laughing cause no one believed that shit 😂 good actor but I agree his acting was a bit off and kinda cringe
One thing that tipped me off was the process of elimination. You have the "Core 4", Quinn, Mindy's girlfriend, and the brother (who Mindy called "GF" the whole movie). Once the girlfriend bit the dust, it locked in the killers for me.
I am 100% here for the Stu is Alive theory now after hearing your ideas on it. Also love the "Dale and Gewey" slip
For me, the first 3/4 of every Scream movie is very enjoyable, where I think they fall apart is the overly talky reveal. The first 3/4 have a fast pace, some mystery, gore, humor, but then the monologues after the reveal are like an emergency brake on the fun.
I know it's the formula, but man, it hurts my enjoyment.
Over an hour… this should be good. The more I think about this movie the more painfully average it becomes. 2.5/5 at best.
Agreed
Honestly this was the most fun I’ve had in a movie theater in a long time. The audience was so into it, gasping and laughing when necessary. It was just so enjoyable and it probably tints my view of the film but I do currently have it as my favorite scream sequel purely based on enjoyment and the fact that I loved the core four.
I do understand where you’re coming from. Your reviews are always great and thorough.
Screams 5 & 6 paralleling Screams 1 & 2 was something that i noticed as well, but my thoughts were that they might be setting up Tara as Scream 7’s big twist Ghostface. It would be easier to make her make sense from a writing perspective as someone who masterminded the events of 5 & 6, and there’s even the half-sibling parallel that wouldn’t be there with Stu.
I loved that Scream 5 was heavily influenced by Scream 1 (boyfriend killer etc) and Scream 6 was heavily influenced by Scream 2 (previous killer's parent!) also Scream 2 and Scream 6 both final scenes end on a stage. I think these new movies are recreating the old in small ways and I love it!
It deff makes me think 7 will reference 3 heavily
Let's hope that scream 7 doesn't take in Bollywood
In regards to Ghostface standing over Quinn. I thought that was weird too, but I was thinking that was probably just Ethan waiting for Quinn to get off the phone until they do the whole fake killing thing, and then he hears Quinn’s fuck buddy and he leaves to kill him.
my view on the subway scene is the writers knew Mindy was going to be alive at the end so if Ethan lets her die there, then she doesnt make it to the end. Now there are other ways to making her live w/o Ethan like maybe he just leaves her there and someone else intervenes to help Mindy off to medical.
The other theory I have is to make us think Ethan wasnt the killer which does and doesnt make sense. They kept trying to do this like when he said he had an Econ study hall but then was always missing at major plot scenes. Also if Mindy just got stabbed by a ghostface, and Ethan doesnt help then we would know he's connected.
All in all it was for the audience interpretation but plotwise it didnt add up
Just rewatched the movie. Hear me out. The phone dialogue in the Quinn scene is actually vague enough to make sense. She says exactly, “She’s my roommate. You’re the police.” And then, “She’s really paranoid and freaked out.” The first dialogue implies she is annoyed with her dad in a way. Maybe he wants her to do something that’s easy for her to do as Sam’s roommate, but she thinks it would make more sense for him to since he is the police. Then her tone in the second piece of dialogue isn’t a concerned one. It just sounds like she’s reporting Sam’s status. It wasn’t a ruse. They were having an actual conversation about ghostface stuff.
My biggest issues were the characters
Anyone not returning was pretty much delegated to the background and the killers were SO obvious
As soon as they started talking about a dead relative I was like…MTV’s Scream did this already gal
That was the same issue with 5cream. All the people that died were uninteresting, beyond Dewey. Richie and Amber were ridiculously obvious too.
Whodoneits are very difficult to pull off in films. The reason the first Scream worked so well was the mystery made sense and the idea of two killers wasn't on most peoples radar. It was a surprise. The reveal wasn't convoluted. The timing of the films release was perfect. Horror films NEEDED Scream when it dropped in 96. Not the case anymore.
Scream 6 is a pretty good slasher flick which is what I expected it was going to be.
Regarding Gale's investigative skills in regards to Richie's family.
Remember Richie's name was Richie Kirsch in Scream 5 ---
My theory is that Richie actually changed his last name. It's possible that Gale never found out about Richie's father or his siblings, because Richie's last name was either fake or his mom's maiden name and his background info was either fake or incomplete.
Meanwhile, I think Detective Wayne Bailey's last name is actually Bailey... This explains why Ethan changes his name to Ethan "Landry". So that he wasn't connected to Detective Bailey and his daughter. It wouldn't make sense for Ethan to change his identity from Kirsch to Bailey, only to change it again to Landry.
It's much more likely that Richie changed his last name or had a different last name, hence disconnecting him from his father's side of the family.
I can't explain every plothole lol but that's one thing I can probably try to forgive
The glaring plot hole of Gale somehow not knowing who Richie's family is could've been avoided if they didn't walk back her development yet again and just had her not write a book about the last movie. Doesn't help fix the other problem of Kirby somehow not knowing who the detective is but it couldve fixed one problem
To be fair Gale did mention writing another book at the end of 5. But it was supposed to be about and dedicated to Dewey. I guess they threw that idea out the window.
Also how did Sam not know Richie’s family???
I knew Det. Bailey was a killer just from trailers. The way he shot the gun in the store proved he was skilled so figured it had to be the cop figure
That is now 2 scream films in my list of 100 great movies with bad endings. I don’t understand how hard it is, especially this movie with neve not in it. They should have literally killed everyone and had ghostface win this time, call Sydney at the end with us not revealing who he is end it with him just saying “surprise sydney!” So we have 2 movies to guess who it is this time.
Great idea!!!
The ghost reveal was very obvious to me too! I first suspected Quinn when she mentioned she lost a brother. Then Quinn being the detectives daughter. I kind of figured they were Richies family out for revenge. Just like scream 2. I was not convinced Quinn was dead since they didn’t show it.
Yea it reminded me of I still know what you did last summer, plus we didn’t really see you die
Love these in depth spoiler reviews Cody. They’re an hour long but you just fire off the plot synopsis and your thoughts in a clear and concise way. Great vid and I’m willing to bet your Scream 7 prediction will come to fruition.
I think you got this 100% accurately. I too was wondering if this was the best sequel until the scene in Gale's apartment. The moment when we didnt see her definitively die, i knew she'd survive and i groaned. Right then I knew there wasn't going to be any stakes in the film. It nosedived at the end of that scene for me.
Cody really appreciate your well thought out pros and cons thank you for speaking up and saying things we fans see but what many other TH-camrs are afraid to express
The subway scene would've made a lot more sense if a bystander noticed Mindy first and yelled for attention, allowing Ethan to "notice" what was happening and join in.
I actually guessed the killer's in Scream 5 from the trailers and posters. I'm usually good at predicting who the bad guy is for movies but I had no clue who it was in Scream VI. I originally thought it was maybe Stu because I noticed the hints they threw in this movie but ruled out Ethan because of the Subway scene it made no sense to me. I didn't really notice all the silly moments in the third act because I thinking why did Ethan help Mindy. I also was not surprised that Chad survived. I just had a feeling at the end. I agree he should have died based on how much he was stabbed, plus all of the time that he was laying there bleeding out.
I knew the detective was the main ghostface when Sam gave him her therapist information..then the therapist died 😂🤦🏾😂
Plus that was a strong arm man kill through the screen door 😮💨
I agree! Too easy to guess the ending, I figured out who the main killer was in the opening scene, too. Then, then his daughter was supposedly killed off screen according to a text message, I knew they were in on it together. During the parks scene where Mindy is giving her Randy-esque monologue (which I didn't like) - I remember wondering if Ethan might end up being Richie's brother. Probably the way they kept bringing him up?
Lol lies
What i’ve been waiting on. Some of my thoughts
Pros:
Brutal GF. Great opening scene. I was genuinely shocked when they showed the first GF. Some really great chase scenes. I enjoyed the overall story, the new characters were pretty good as well. Melissa Berrera was leaps and bounds better in this one than she was in 5. The NYC setting was really cool, and I enjoyed that Bodega scene. Kirby being back and her being an FBI agent was cool (albeit maybe a little unrealistic lol). The plot was good enough to where I didn’t even think about Sydney until the last 2-3 minutes. The subway scene was great, the tension built and built. Them being separate was convenient sure, but i think it served the plot well. Chad was my favorite character in this entire movie. He really developed since 5, and i found his actual performance was great
Cons:
I figured out who the killer was like 10 minutes in. When Tara’s new roommate said “when we lost our brother” I immediately went “please dont tell me its richie’s sister”. When she “died” i figured her father just killed her. The brother seemed so suspicious when he handed her those napkins after she got the drink splashed on her. I dont believe Gale was really needed in this entire story, and she suddenly has a new BF who just gets offed immediate lol. The third act. Ooof. It was good until they tried to red herring Kirby into being the killer. The plot armor is wild lol. Chad is fucking dead man. You cannot tell me anything else lolol. Same with Gale lmfao. Also how is mindy still alive? Mindy for me was too forced. You always believed Randy, but with Mindy it feels like a forced character. And lets call a spade a spade. How the fuck do 3 people with 2 knives and a gun not kill 2 completely defenseless people lol. I think it was supposed to be an homage it being in an old theater (ala scream 2) and ofc the cop taking revenge for richie (mrs loomis), but it honestly seemed just a little lazy to me.
Overall i gave it a 7.5. I think its a really really solid movie and is tied with 4 for me for being the 3rd best. I really hope and pray that 7 is it. 7 wraps it up, and its all done.
Edit: the brother of richie disappeared far too much in this movie like Mickey in 2. Now idk if that’s intentional as a nod to 2, or just a plot choice. But further solidified him being a killer
I feel like you have read my mind this is a great break down 100% accurate spot on you would be a great movie reviewer!!!
@@laquitasmith6774 i appreciate it. Good good movie. Just seemed fairly simple to figure it out unfortunately lol
@@ep3578 it really was too easy unfortunately!!
I’ve shared your breakdown with so many people already and they are like wow this guy is spot on all perfectly said!!
Tea. Exactly what I thought. I think if you can just suspend disbelief in all logic, this movie is great.
Couldn't agree more except for the rating. I liked it but my second least favorite after a rewatch with 3rd being the worst (but still enjoyable). I'd go around 6.5 ish.
I'm glad you mentioned Mindy cause I found her borderline obnoxious in this movie, despite her being one of my favorites in 5. She talks like she's the grizzled horror expert, but doesn't act like it. I did love Chad though, such a big growth after 5!
Just frustrating. For everything I liked and thought was interesting, there was something that held it back.
Gotta love an hour long Cody video
You forgot perhaps the two biggest plot holes that I noticed right away,firstly how did Ghost Face enter the apartments everytime,I mean these are not houses,it's NY city most buildings have door men,especially a fancy place like Gale's,I presume you can't just walk in,and secondly how did the cop swap his daughter with some random body and no one noticed,I agree,great film right up to those 20 min,sadly.
the main guy said " I replaced her body with a prosthetic before anyone else on the scene showed up" could you even comprehend how illogical that is if you played that out in your head??
The reveal was absolutely obvious!! You’re the only one who really mentioned this, people just aimlessly watch without actually listening maybe that’s why they enjoyed it so much!
People always say its obvious after the fact. Scream 1 was pretty obvious it was Billy. Scream 2 it was pretty obvious it was Mickey. Most ppl just watch the movie and not try to play detective and nitpick every little thing
@@jeffcunningham0389 It's a whodunnit, it's made to be analysed and dissected. That's the fun of it.
@@spenser9908 they were never made to be analyzed. They were made to be a fun play of slasher films. The whodunit nature was just an added part of it.
@@jeffcunningham0389 Yes, and the whole fun of whodunnits is for you to piece the puzzle together and play detective yourself on multiple re-watches.
@@spenser9908 i dont watch the scream films for that. I watch them for the fun characters, slasher stuff and meta humor. The whodonit is over after first viewing. If ppl only watched them for that then this franchise would’ve died long ago. This is no different than the Halloween, friday and hr 13th, nightmare films. Which all inspired these.
Hopefully in S7 the sisters wont have another argument. So annoying every time Tara yells at Sam. 😜
😂
Haven't gotten to the other plot holes yet, but at least that first one with Quinn in the bedroom, I went back and watched it. Nothing in that scene would really detract from the reveal of who the killers are. Ethan was just standing there waiting while Quinn was on the phone with their dad. It looks like looming because he's in full ghostface mode. He gets into position when he hears the guy in the bathroom finishing up. And the only thing Quinn said on the phone was "Yeah I know she's my roommate but you're the police." And then "She's really freaked out and paranoid." So none of that's an indication of what's being discussed. All that said, I don't think it's a plot hole at all. Maybe a little contrived for the movie, but still within the realms of reality.
Despite Chad surviving I really love that moment of two Ghostfaces attacking a victim on screen at once. I said "let's go!" in the theater and felt the stares so I added "Sorry Chad" after lol.
The reveals were silly. Nothing convincing or remotely intimidating about them when the mask comes off. These dorks and small girls being Ghostface are getting predictable. The first 3 Scream movies match the Ghostface we see on screen. They were all convincingly unhinged and imposing with the mask off. It’s a Horror movie, not Scooby Doo
EXACTLY
Interesting you figured it out that fast. I knew the cop was the killer the second it was revealed his daughter was the roommate. When the roommate mentioned she lost her brother, i instantly thought "Oh her and her dad are getting revenge for Richie." Then, pair that with the fact we never see the Quinn get physically stabbed. Really sucks it was so damn obvious. Usually you can guess the killer but can't guess the motivation as this is revealed during the ending monologues. But here, I could guess the killer AND the motivation. For this reason, the last half hour was brutal. I really hope they just switch up the formula for the next movie, because these reveals are getting very stale.
This is why I subscribed to your channel during the Dexter reboot. Spot-on analysis. And you didn't edit out "Dale and Gewey". Great job. Thank you.
I thought the funniest part about the 3rd act was the fact that when Sam and Tara were fighting Quinn and Ethan, the fucking dad was just standing around watching with a gun in his hand... 😂😅🤣
I thought Quinn was the most obvious characters was because when she said I had a brother that died I was going like that sounds like a killer motive
Nah Ethan definitely was
Yeah I thought he was kind of obvious too but it threw a bunch of red herrings to make it seem like it was someone else but that’s just me though
@@Toxicgamer-ut9dd nah that subway red herring didn't work for me because there's always two killers so of course Ethan wouldn't be the one but his partner would
Yeah I can see that but it wasn’t as obvious as the one where he goes like I was at convention con or whatever
On the first plot hole regarding the apartment, I thought it would have been revealed later on that someone had been recording/monitoring the Core 4 specifically thinking that Sam was the killer and was trying to catch her in the act. That would have played to the social outcast/paranoia themes presented in the early going, and it would have made sense at that point for the killers to use that to their advantage in the case that maybe one of them got outed/revealed that a death wasn't actually true. It never got mentioned again, which sucks because I feel that could have really elevated the idea that the world has got it out for Sam and that she's really in a bind due to the online element, and for me would have made that scene make a lot more sense in hindsight.
on why ethan would not want to reveal his identity as a GF to Mindy after she gets stabbed: She's obviously still alive, so if Ethan acts like GF, she could either tell the cops (when a bystander on the subway inevitably notices her injury gets her help) and call/text everyone to let them know about Ethan, which gives him away and takes away a lot of the power that GFs have by being unidentified. I think it makes perfect sense for him to keep up the charade if he's not 100% sure that she's going to die (which he wasn't) before she gets help or contacts her friends.
Been waiting for this since I saw Scream 6 on Saturday! I really appreciate your spoiler reviews because we think similarly in some aspects. So glad I can finally watch this😍
It just seemed to me that this plot was 100% written to make Stu the reveal at the end. The intensity of the kills, the “countdown of masks”, the collection of evidence, etc. And all the internet speculation for months that he would be the killer made the filmmakers pivot to shoehorn in killers that made absolutely no sense. And it left a lot of us with “Stu-balls” haha
I agree. That was the 1% of uncertainty I had was how deliberate it seemed to be pointing to Stu.
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one that though this lol. I was thinking after was I expecting too much? I think I would have been more okay with the third act if we had killers that matched the brutality of Ghostface in the movie. But Ethan and Quinn are just not those kind of killers. Bailey could have been but he played it too catoonish. Yeah they were all stupidly obvious too. You didn't mention btw Quinn talking with Tara after the party at the beginning. She just randomly spills exposition about her brother and I'm just like her and her dad are the killers... if it's not stu. Ethan was obvious because everyone suspected him all throughout the movie lol
It also makes sense that Stu was the one who told Ritchie about Sam being Billy's daughter.
@@CodyLeachYT well damn the girl straight up said that it actually an in-universe theory that he may still be alive there isn’t a doubt in my mind that he will be back in a sequel soon
@@CodyLeachYT personally I think if they bring stu back at this point it’s jumping the shark, if he was alive someone would’ve mentioned it at some point in 5 damn movies.
I didn't mind the reveal being obvious. I think we were supposed to at least guess Bailey as part of the fun. That's how I took it. Most of the killers, right back to Billy, have ALWAYS been obvious.
I'd argue Scream 2 and 3 were not so obvious. While Micky was almost certainly a ghost face, the reveal of Billy's mom being the other took me by surprise.
As for Roman... He took me by surprise because for a moment I was like who is this? lol. Didn't help he was so irrelevant in his own movie until the reveal.
@@erevanthegamer4141 Agreed. My same reaction to both Mickey and Roman.
Nah g. Scream 2,3 & 4 actually had unexpected reveals 💯
For me, Scream 5 was obvious on who the killer was. But for this movie, I had no clue! I guess it’s just cause I didn’t think too much into it but in retrospect I say to myself; “how did I miss that?”😂
The question mark by Stu's face on the white board was a reference to Roman being involved in the Billy/Stu plan.
Just to provide a different perspective, I personally never suspected the detective would be the killer. I thought they were setting him up to be a new Dewey-type character that would return in future movies. The entire movie I suspected that Kirby was the mastermind. Just about everything that you said made it obvious about Bailey (like how he knew about the Ghostfaces in the intro and what they were planning) also applies to Kirby. And I thought making a returning character into a Ghostface was a potential direction that these writers would go. Obviously I was wrong but I’m happy that I was!
Chad is the new Dewey. He magically survived part 1 and then part 2.
Chad will be Ghostface in the next movie. If they didn't go through with Dewey being the killer, then do it with Chad!
I agree with you pretty much 100% down the line with everything. My wife and I thought they really dropped the ball by not having Sam keep the mask at the end. Really could’ve made things interesting for the next movie.
Also about the motive, I know I have to suspend disbelief but they want me to believe that the entire family is insane killers? You would think that prior to Richie getting killed, at least none of the children have killed anyone. So now Richie is killed they all turn into Ghostface killers? Naaaah
And not sure if it matters but Mindy at the end did say she was hopped up on a ton of drugs and that’s why she didn’t feel any pain from the stab wound.
First off I'd like to thank you for being awesome and covering this movie for an entire hour, that's true dedication. Secondly no, you are not the only one who had solved the "Mastermind" Ghostface, I also was pretty certain of it. Lastly here are my pros and cons to this film and fans who have seen this film, let me know if you agree or disagree
Spoilers Obviously !!!!!!!!!
Pros
-Tara and Sam as the lead characters
-The Setting
-The increased gore
-The entire Subway Scene (really well done and amps up the anxiety factor)
-The Billy Loomis visions (He was my favorite Ghostface along Stu so maybe some bias here lol)
Cons
-While kills got gorier, I was expecting more creative kills to take place by the time of a 6th movie and it didn't happen
-Chad came off unnecessarily aggressive towards everyone when it came to protecting Tara
-The whole Chad and Tara Romance thing
-Scream 6 erases the growth that Gale went through in Scream 5 and she goes back to being the annoying journalist
-Identities and motivations of Ghostafaces (With Scream being incredibly self aware I was hoping that they would pick up on who the obvious choices for the killers were and instead go for something bold and creative but I guess not)
-Detective Bailey (Incredibly dull, boring and generic)
-By far my least favorite thing in this movie is how getting stabbed no longer means anything, everyone is surviving and running around despite being stabbed many times or stabbed real deep (A prime example of this would be how we come to find out Chad is perfectly fine after Scream 5 and how he also somehow survives the events of Scream 6)
Honestly the Chad & Tara thing worked for me which also explains why he is overprotective of her. But I get why it doesn't work for everyone
Yeah at the end I was like didn’t Tara get stabbed? She’s just chillin
First time to this channel love it and I’m now a subscriber. To the 3rd plot hole… the idea behind him saving her, was for social media and should him and the family accomplish their mission portrays him as a hero // helpful. They intended to keep Sam as the killer per the conspiracies.
I definitely do not doubt you figured out the killer as quickly as you did. I was 99% sure when he walked out crying saying "Now both my kids and my wife are gone."
Maybe I was just being vigilant and listening to every small line that seemed to be just in passing, but it was super obvious for me at that point.
Also, no one is talking about how he said his wife was killed too. I wonder if that was just a throw-away line, or it may somehow be involved with the plot or next movie's plot.
I agree, the “you fuck with my family, you die” line was cringe and like…your daughter just died….it didn’t sell
How does that line make it obvious?
@@jeffcunningham0389 If everyone’s a suspect, almost all of their lines like that are either are red hearings or significant. There was no real need for them to show him saying that, and usually when they do that and quickly move past it they’re dropping a hint without making it obvious.
I was observing and thinking about all of their little lines here and there. When his daughter also took the time to say they moved from another town and specifically came here, it was also suspicious.
Almost all the lines like that serve a purpose to either drop a subtle clue, or a red hearing to make you suspect everyone.
@@justamurse5646 or its called character building. If u start taking away everyones lines then what purpose do they even serve being in the movie
@@justamurse5646 perfectly said!
And as for Quinns bedroom scene.
I'm thinking she was on the phone with her dad and could have been talking about anything. All she says is "I know she's my roommate, but you're like....the police!". So there's context we're missing.
I think her and Ethan may have planned it. Or maybe she didn't know Ethan was there.
GF goes in the bathroom, he kills Quinns boyfriend who was showering. Then came out, put the prosthetic slit throat piece on Quinn bringing her up to speed, took the pics to send to the core 4 and the rest plays out.
Again, I'm just looking for answers cause stuff like this bothers me too lol
This whole scene reminded me of when stu fake kills Billy and we were convinced he's was dead.
SAME! 46:05. Why did he run at her?!😂😂
First of all, great vid. Very in-depth.
For me, the amount of people surviving brutal stab wounds was the biggest problem with this movie. It really bugged me by the end. I'm mixed on the plotholes that you spotted though..
1) I didn't mind the killers continuing to act in character when they were alone with each other. I can imagine the leader really drumming it into them the importance of not slipping up even once during this film. I bet he made the others stay in character even at the dinner table in the weeks leading up to the film's events. Detectives are sticklers for detail.
2) Gail not recognising Bailey is hard to explain away. Would she have definitely seen him before though? I'm not 100% tbh so I can just about let it go
3) I think the killer meant to kill Mindy on the train, and when he didn't, I think he panicked and went back into geek character, just in case some of her friends were running up on the platform. I might need to see this scene again tbh. I think Ethan's indecisive behaviour here though would make more sense in the real world than in a movie (where generally character actions are supposed to be clear cut and easy to follow).
4) Sam allowing the leader the chance to get up and having one last end game was pure bullshit. Totally agree
2) Gail not recognising Bailey is hard to explain away. Would she have definitely seen him before though? I'm not 100% tbh so I can just about let it go
- Also Kirby should known who Bailey is being an FBI agent and Sam also should known being Richie BF, even if she didn't see them he would have mentioned his father and siblings by name or even a photo of them all.
I believe that Stu very much could be alive. In Scream 5 they have Dewey mention that Stu “IS” a killer not “WAS” & they made it intentional to point out that Stu was the 2nd killer in the opening. Then in Scream 6 aside from Kirby and Mindy’s talk about Stu possibly being alive they had Ghostface tell Gale something along the lines of We haven’t officially spoken to each other. Yeah that could be Quinn but I don’t think it is.
Also if you rewatch Dewey’s death scene and listen carefully it’s not Amber he’s fighting. Dewey is walking Richie to the door when Ghostface attacks. The grunts that are coming out of Ghostface when Dewey is fighting him off at the hospital are Male.
I think Stu killed Dewey in Scream 5 & since nether her not Richie knew who that was Amber took the credit of killing Dewey.
Stu also tried to kill Gale in her chase scene and almost succeeded. In the first Scream Stu knew she was in his home but never interacted with Gale. Tatum kicked her out seconds later hence “We never officially spoke to each other” comes in. Maybe I’m off but it wouldn’t surprise me if Stu isn’t focused on anyone new and is just going after the original trio each time a new Ghostface appears. In Scream 5 no one was REALLY after Sidney, Gale, or Dewey. Dewey just got involved with Sam’s situation and both Sidney & Gale put themselves in that situation after his death.
He should have an appropriate look with brittle hair on scalp since he got his head electrocuted.
I figured the scene where ghostface is standing over Quinn in bed is just those two preparing for killing everyone in the apartment. With Quinn at that moment pretending to talk on the phone while Ethan is waiting for them to start