@@andy6576 Uh... I couldn't understand your reply. Does this mean you don't want to explain to me what sprite scaling is? It's okay if you don’t. I was only asking...
@@andell9021 Basically you draw a single sprite then use software to scale (resize) it, rather than drawing lots of sprites at different sizes and switching instantly between them (which takes up _much_ more processing power/memory).
Until proper texture mapped polygon based games came along these pseudo 3D using sprites looked muched better than polygon based ones. And I think they also aged way better than the early polygon titles.
@@mariowario5945 they should. Even with the crazy tools for 3-D engines now on the market, these sprite-scalers still have enjoyment to offer and unique experiences to present.
Sprite based (pseudo) 3D is a great technique for graphics, and it could be so stylish when is well used specially when is focused towards realism. It really is the most emblematic part of late 80s and early 90s video games for all platforms, to bad developers went to the 3D polygon mesh technique so fast in mid 90s, because in that period appeared the right hardware to run games with higher resolution sprites and more complex parallel and vertical scrolling. It would be nice that modern Indie developers retake this technique with more complex sprites rather than those simplisticgraphic designs! And as always.. another great Retro Core Show, It really was an interesting theme for this one, very good job thank you!
Retro Core Well I can't really make a truly technical opinion about game design, but I have worked with 3D objects in Autocad, only for architectural purposes and to display some objects in isometric projection, like water lines. Is not really that hard, but for games that require complex polygon meshes and modeled solid rendered with specific textures I think it could be very hard to make (for me), so I think it should be easier to make a layout of sprites and a background. Also I think for 3D based sprite games, the challenge is when you have to work with dynamic backgrounds and do the perspective corrections acording to the angle of the camera. In a 3D environment is easier to manipulate the point of view because is just like real life, and it doesn't have the need to modify the background drawing because the background wouldn't be a draw but a solid environment, only virtual.
This is awesome! I always loved and really appreciated these styles of games...wow it's been many memories seeing these games in the arcades. I've always been a super scaler/Pseudo 3D/Sprite Scaling fanatic since I first watched and played these in the arcades back then. Especially the Galaxy Force series which was my all time favorite in presentation of the the power that system had at the time. PLEASE MORE OF THESE VIDEOS! Thank you so much!
Alien 3 wasn't only released in Japan. It was in the arcade section of our local cinema years ago me and my mate pumped loads of money into it lol. It was cool because it had 2 replica pulse rifles as the controllers that vibrated when firing.
These kind of games were amazing back in the day, they maybe don't have the ultra realism of modern games but i can always remember seeing sprite scalers like Space Harrier, Out Run and After Burner for the first time in Blackpool arcades and being totally blown away. Nice to see you picked some more obscure sprite scalers, will have to have a go of some of these on Mame.
+Craig Wilson yes, it would have been too easy to pick all the typical Sega titles that everyone knows. I feel that these lesser know titles make for a more interesting show.
This kind of visuals is still so appealing to me. Line of Fire blows me away every single time I see it in action! A bit like your silver Mega Drive. Man, you have no idea how much I LOVE that machine. :)
Another great episode I have never seen Rail Chase before. As far as other sprite based 3d games go PowerDrift always impressed me in how you drove around a 3D track built with sprites.
Yeah Power Drift is really special. You may like to know that there is a Rail Chase 2 made with Polygons. I'm sure it runs on the Sega Model 2 hardware.
If there wasn’t such a rush to polygons in the early to mid 90’s, the Sega 32X could have been used to run these type of games more often and would have been a lot better received in my opinion. The few super-scaler games on the 32X run and look great, afterall.
I agree. Having a crap load of Super Scaler games on the 32X would have been fantastic. Better still they should have brought more of them to the Saturn. The ones it did receive are all fantastic.
Love this kind of games, and I played a lot GI Joe back in the day, one of the few games that gave me a lot of time on arcades. I will try the other ones in MAME :D
This was a great episode, congrats! I'm sure you played Project: Horned Owl on the first Playstation... Not an unforgettable game, but funny rail shooter with gun. For sure I can't forget those amazing sprites mecha bosses moving on a fluid 3D environment. Wish I could have more games with that graphics style nowadays...
I still love the old super scalers, I've finally got an arcade emulator up and running on my laptop and to play the likes of outrun, chase hq and spacegun is good fun
Just to add to the global survey of Alien 3: The Gun players. I played it once at an arcade here in the states over 20 years ago. It may have been quite rare, as I had never seen it since. It made quite an impression on me, though.
Pretty certain my brother and I played the Rail Chase game in Netherlands many years ago. And Alien 3 The Gun I'm almost certain was in the Trocadero for years. Evidently from many other comments here, it was a popular import! Was half expecting to see Buck Rogers: Planet of Zoom featured, as it was an early 3D sprite game. Less well known was Tube Panic, played that as part of a gaming challenge a long time ago!
One title that comes to mind is Blaster - a game from Williams Electronics released in 1983, and all I can say without giving too much away is that graphically speaking, it blows Ambush out of the water. Oh, and it's a first-person space shooter.
I saw and played that Alien 3 the gun in Zimbabwe in the 1990s ,interesting to know it was an import, Keep the awsome videos coming they are very informative.
I'm pretty sure I played the Alien 3 gun game in an arcade in Blackpool that had a lot of rare cabinets from what I remember the guns were fixed to the cabinet sort of like a joystick. It was pretty cool.
Omg Rail Chase!! I've been wanting to find out the name of that game for ages. Have really fond memories of playing the original arcade machine where you stand in an actual rail cart that jolts and shudders as you play.
+SEGADriven.com Sega made a lot of very interesting game back in the 90s. May were good but some had fantastic ideas but we're ultimately awful to play such as Holosium
Game Sack has gone down? Oh, you mean in quality? I guess that happens once you've made over so many shows. I do still enjoy a bit of Game Sack though. I sure wouldn't say no to more view :)
+Retro Core Game Sack is just taking some time off. They have been tired out since they started doing weekly episodes and some negative comments have gotten them down. They are coming back with an episode every two weeks. They posted about it on Facebook.
ah, bummer. I can understand though. Doing the weekly shows is a lot of work. I do Battle of the Ports every week and now Retro Core twice or three times a month. I have next to no real gaming time. So I can see why they are taking a break.
My brother and I actually played and beat alien the gun here in the us, our local movie theater had it as well as the t2 game. When you get to the last boss you character curses, it was the first time I heard a curse in a video game. I think he said "oh sh*t!"
+Crouton Doom I was just thinking the same thing. Graphics and soundtrack were superb and the cabinet design with the Body Sonic and tunnel lighting was cool. Night Striker was really hard to find, even in Japan. I remember the rumors at the arcades was that Taito only manufactured a few hundred for the entire country.
I played Alien the gun in Glasgow quite regular, in Treasure Island arcade, in the mid 90’s. Cost £1 a credit. Probably pumped at least £10 to complete the thing.
This video could have really done without the fake scan lines. Between that, the fast motion, and the compression youtube puts on every video, it really messes with the video quality. Even at 720p.
Haven't seen this one and I'm amazed with some games but not surprised knowing most are from Sega. You missed the Rambo game that's looks practically the same as gijoe. Will save this video so I can look out some games I haven't seen before there's about 3 or four that I already played them. Thanks 👍
I remembered in stage 4 of Gradius III AC that there is a 3D section stage which makes me think that konami went overboard with the design, it's like they're on drugs when making that game
Any desire to revisit this topic? Could include really early non-scaler stuff like Radar Scope, Juno First, Exerion, Gyruss, and the space war section of Gorf, and more scaler stuff like the 3D stages in Ajax, Tube Panic, Zoom 909/Buck Rogers, Turbo, and Enduro Racer. I'm not sure what your rules are for inclusion, but there's definitely more to cover, and I'd love to see this topic revisited!
I don't know if this has happened with anyone other than me but around 2005 sprite based 3D games started to look really dated to me but around 2011-12 they started to look nice again! It's weird, I know.
I know what you mean. I think it's because we became so accustom to seeing silky smooth polygons that the blocky sprite based stuff just looked awful. As time passes you begin to realise how easy it is to make 3D games using polygons gain more respect for those classic sprite scalers.
Neat, don't think I've ever seen Air Rescue, did like Choplifter a lot. Jeez "Help, help, help..." :P Really a technical genre suited to the Saturn best for all the high image memory requirements. I kind of liked the evolution of this engine type during the PS1 era of polygonal buildings and sprite characters in Japanese console games IE. building are boxy unlike people and it's hard to approximate topography with sprites. Cool feature topic. ;)
Good video, I would like to add the alien the gun was released in USA and UK. in fact most of the machines were built in the UK. I recently uploaded my service manual with such info on klov website.
Thanks for the input. Seems there's some bad information on the net stating it was a Japanese only release. I'll have to add an annotation to the video.
I really miss the days of 2D sprite scaling games. They were amazing. The effects you could pull off with the right hardware and imagination blew my mind back on the 80s.
man great work! imlearning so much About arcade games, thank you! Just a question what emulator do you use most? and whats the hardware that you use (config wise) cause i want to build myself an arcade and im inclined to buy a raspberry pi 3.do you Think this Will be enough?
Willian monteiro pires thanks for watching the videos. A raspberry pi 3 will run a lot of Arcade games but it will not run a lot of the more demanding games such as polygon titles or even some of there sprite scaling games. Personally I use an i5 Windows 7 system with 8gb of ram and a Nvidia G-Force card (can't remember the spec now) that can run PC games at Xbox I levels. As for emulators I use a variety of different ones. The main two are MAME and Final Burn Alpha but I also use Super Model for Sega Model 3 games and model 2 emulator for, yep, Sega Model 2 games and Naomi games. I also have another emulator I use for Sammy Atomiswave games. Sadly I'm not at home now so I can't check the name of it.
Sprite-based 3D games are so charming! Definitely need Air Rescue in my life. So hopefully that one runs okay in MAME. And G.I. JOE was a master stroke! That game deserved every quarter crammed into it! Shame it never saw a home port, or maybe it's a blessing. We've seen what happens when they try porting games to hardware that just can't handle it... I think the Alien 3 game eventually made it over to the states, because I've seen it in movie theater lobbies now and then.
That was the toys which were rebranded. The show was still GI Joe although I don't know if it was actually aired on normal TV over here. It came out just at a time I would have stopped watching Cartoons that much. The last shows I actively watched were TMNT, the Real Ghostbusters and Dungeons and Dragons. I don't think I watched anything newer. Of course I did watch loads of great Cartoons as a kid. I made a top 10 cartoon themes video which can be found on my channels main page.
Man I love this stuff. Too bad around 92 I was way more into girls and rock and roll. Now I have to pay top dollar to get all these great games I missed out on!!
Haha, you should have been it to both. In 1992 I was 17. Take a trip to the arcades with mates then take the girlfriend out to a movie :) Actually, that explains why I never had any money back then. DOH!
+Retro Core Magazine reviews thought it was great. Or maybe great relative to other 3DO games. What about NBA Give N' Go? Better or worse than Slam N' Jam given the SNES can't do sprite scaling?
Seen quite a few of the Alien 3 games in the United States during the 90's.... Are you sure it was only officially released in Japan? Because I remember it being quite common here.
Yeah, I checked it out on a few Web sites. The general opinion is that is was only officially released in Japan. I guess it could have been a popular import though.
Thank you, virustwin. Yeah, I've been trying to get more subs and fans for a long time but it never seems to work. Any ideas? Yes, I do live in Asia. I've been living in Japan now for 18 years. Since November 1998.
Awesome.. got to visit Japan one day. The gaming industry is notoriously difficult to break into on youtube. ill be honest, i think your content is top notch. i look at the evolution of some gaming channels like the gaming historian, lgr (lazy game reviews), gamesack, rerez, antdude, jontron and more, that show how much production value can 'upgrade' a channel (better cameras, mics, backgrounds etc) but what i love about them is that they each have they own 'thing' going, and that's important. they dont try to copy a formula and you are on the right track with that. your channel is unique and thats what i believe will propel you. also, since you live in Japan and a lot of your content is Japanese in nature, maybe you can highlight that as a feature of your channel. i dont see many gaming channels focusing on foreign (outside of USA, i'm from Trinidad) consoles and content and that can be used to give you more of a spotlight. finally, i would try to get a cameo or a team up video with one of the more popular channels, like a segment on their show or, better yet, feature them on a segment of your show where applicable and let them shout out your channel on theirs. thats how i discovered many channels and im sure how many other viewers did the same. I love your work and i'll continue to watch and i look forward to seeing your channel grow mate. keep at it and try new things, your fans will let you know if they like it. and dont be afraid to ask them to spread the word every now and then. oh and one more thing. if you're comfortable with it, talk a little more about yourself and your channel itself. people tend to support channels where they know 'who' they are supporting. q & a videos, etc are great ways to let fans in. (forgive me if you have already done these, i havent been able to browse all of your content yet, but i'm getting there ;)
virustwin some great words of advice right there. I like the idea of doing a collaboration with a larger channel. I was thinking of asking Guru Larry as he gets some good views plus ive seen him posting on my videos from time to time as well as him knowing I post on his. I think I'll give that a shot. Thanks!
+Retro Core awesome. I love his videos as well especially the fact hunt series. I would thoroughly enjoy a collab between you two. all the best mate. keep the videos coming
It's a standard Japanese Mega Drive 1 that I painted myself a few years ago. The Mega Drive decals on it came from Sega back in 2008. They were selling official console decals on their online store in Japan. They weren't cheap mind you.
The picture of TAITO's 3D games resembles NIGHT STRIKER very much. These may be that a developer is the same. If Somebody makes these sprite 3D games in the present times, They will get praise and ridicule. All the 3D games turned into a polygon. It is a matter of course but I regret it a little.
Night Striker is one of my favourite Taito sprite scaling games. I own the Mega CD and Sega Saturn versions. The music is also really good on Night Striker. I do like 3D polygon games but I really miss the sprite scaling games. They had a real charm. Some even look like polygons such as Alien 3 The Gun.
Retro Core was on TH-cam before Game Sack and was actually available off TH-cam way before game Sack. Saying that, the format to Retro Core was so different back then. In its current form I'd say Game Sack was first. As for the longest running series, well that's Retro Core.
@@RetroCore I didn't actually think that you'd reply with it being a 3 year old video lol! I just remember it being very popular at the time. I played it in one of the sea front arcades in Seaton carew in Teesside. All it was is your surprise and perhaps disappointment at the fact that it was only released in Japan when it was so readily available here, import or not? I really enjoyed your video. There loads of cracking games on list 🙂👍
That's the problem with a lot of these sprite scaling games. Many of them are not emulated 100% perfectly. So even with an upgraded PC you may still see some issues. MAME emulation really does eat up a lot of resources. Final Burn Alpha is better for many games however that doesn't run as much cool stuff as MAME.
Obviously these games are emulated but when I do the console reviews as part of the Retro Core 5 show then in that case all games are running on real hardware.
I try not to use emulation because emulation isn't always perfect. Battle of the Ports uses emulation for a lot of the games since it would be impossible to do the show otherwise.
Sega driving games looked best, so cover those, outrunners is fantastic, and Monaco GP arcade looks amazing with the side decorations compared to the Mega Drive version, power drift was the other one? Also Jaleco had a good looking F1 game with fancy mode 7 clouds. I'm sure I'm missing a ton more pre phone logon 3D racers
I wanted to stay clear of racing games and focus on the more obscure and none racing sprite scaling titles. I will cover Rad Mobile in the future though.
I am really looking for all these games But before i buy i need to know that the games:[ 'Power Stone 1, 2 & 3 are included, Tekken 7, The Newest Pokémon Games, All Mortal Kombat Games, Killer Instinct Games I can wait for the newest Pandora Box if i need to I luv [ Power Stone 1, 2 & 3) Thanks
Ah yes...sprite scalers. Sega were definetely the MASTERS of sprite scaling, true geniuses. The industry misses them, I think.
Explain what sprite scaling is again? I didn't watch the video with high volume.
@@andell9021 Turn the volume down then? Jesus...
@@andy6576 Uh... I couldn't understand your reply. Does this mean you don't want to explain to me what sprite scaling is? It's okay if you don’t. I was only asking...
@@andell9021 Basically you draw a single sprite then use software to scale (resize) it, rather than drawing lots of sprites at different sizes and switching instantly between them (which takes up _much_ more processing power/memory).
@@andell9021 play Space Harrier
Until proper texture mapped polygon based games came along these pseudo 3D using sprites looked muched better than polygon based ones. And I think they also aged way better than the early polygon titles.
Agreed. These games have a certain class about them.
@@RetroCore indie games should take inspiration from these
@@RetroCore indie games should take inspiration from these
@@mariowario5945 they should. Even with the crazy tools for 3-D engines now on the market, these sprite-scalers still have enjoyment to offer and unique experiences to present.
These pseudo 3d sprite games are way more interesting than the latest 3d polygon games.
That is because they maintain the game art style that won't be possible in 3d
Ps: cell shading looks like shit...
@@COMMODOOSA cel shading can be fantastic, so long as the art direction is effective. I love cel shading myself, but I guess it’s not for everyone.
*First level of Air Rescue, fly 30 ft and pick the people up* JUST WALK OVER THERE! HOW LAZY ARE YOU?!
Hahaha, yeah, it is pretty short. Maybe it's a training stage.
I really appreciate how you covered more unknown games instead of the standard well known 3D sprite based games. Great video!
Thanks. In the future I will do a follow up to this one with more obscure titles.
Sprite based (pseudo) 3D is a great technique for graphics, and it could be so stylish when is well used specially when is focused towards realism. It really is the most emblematic part of late 80s and early 90s video games for all platforms, to bad developers went to the 3D polygon mesh technique so fast in mid 90s, because in that period appeared the right hardware to run games with higher resolution sprites and more complex parallel and vertical scrolling. It would be nice that modern Indie developers retake this technique with more complex sprites rather than those simplisticgraphic designs!
And as always.. another great Retro Core Show, It really was an interesting theme for this one, very good job thank you!
I agree with everything you said. It's a true classic age of gaming that should see a comeback.
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Yes and with current technology it should be no problem
Maybe it's harder to do that polygon games as far as design is concerned?
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Well I can't really make a truly technical opinion about game design, but I have worked with 3D objects in Autocad, only for architectural purposes and to display some objects in isometric projection, like water lines. Is not really that hard, but for games that require complex polygon meshes and modeled solid rendered with specific textures I think it could be very hard to make (for me), so I think it should be easier to make a layout of sprites and a background. Also I think for 3D based sprite games, the challenge is when you have to work with dynamic backgrounds and do the perspective corrections acording to the angle of the camera. In a 3D environment is easier to manipulate the point of view because is just like real life, and it doesn't have the need to modify the background drawing because the background wouldn't be a draw but a solid environment, only virtual.
Leonardo Antonio 100%!! Took the words from my mouth...
This is awesome! I always loved and really appreciated these styles of games...wow it's been many memories seeing these games in the arcades. I've always been a super scaler/Pseudo 3D/Sprite Scaling fanatic since I first watched and played these in the arcades back then. Especially the Galaxy Force series which was my all time favorite in presentation of the the power that system had at the time. PLEASE MORE OF THESE VIDEOS! Thank you so much!
I've been meaning to do a follow up to this one. Next Friday I have a day off so maybe I'll do one.
Alien 3 wasn't only released in Japan. It was in the arcade section of our local cinema years ago me and my mate pumped loads of money into it lol. It was cool because it had 2 replica pulse rifles as the controllers that vibrated when firing.
These kind of games were amazing back in the day, they maybe don't have the ultra realism of modern games but i can always remember seeing sprite scalers like Space Harrier, Out Run and After Burner for the first time in Blackpool arcades and being totally blown away.
Nice to see you picked some more obscure sprite scalers, will have to have a go of some of these on Mame.
+Craig Wilson yes, it would have been too easy to pick all the typical Sega titles that everyone knows. I feel that these lesser know titles make for a more interesting show.
my favourite 3d games, they have a warmness and personality that is outstanding...I wish there would be more games coming out with this technique..
You can find a few on android such as Final Freeway but no where near enough.
Great idea for an episode! that Alien 3 game looks amazing.
Whoa, that white/silver Mega Drive is amazing!
This kind of visuals is still so appealing to me. Line of Fire blows me away every single time I see it in action!
A bit like your silver Mega Drive. Man, you have no idea how much I LOVE that machine. :)
+Galdelico hehe, that silver Mega Drive was once a really dirty beaten up console. Saved that from the bin :)
+Retro Core amazing job!
Another great episode I have never seen Rail Chase before. As far as other sprite based 3d games go PowerDrift always impressed me in how you drove around a 3D track built with sprites.
Yeah Power Drift is really special. You may like to know that there is a Rail Chase 2 made with Polygons. I'm sure it runs on the Sega Model 2 hardware.
Wow really? I'll have to look to see if I can emulate them both. I just want to play a real on the rails on the rails shooter.
If there wasn’t such a rush to polygons in the early to mid 90’s, the Sega 32X could have been used to run these type of games more often and would have been a lot better received in my opinion. The few super-scaler games on the 32X run and look great, afterall.
I agree. Having a crap load of Super Scaler games on the 32X would have been fantastic. Better still they should have brought more of them to the Saturn. The ones it did receive are all fantastic.
Love this kind of games, and I played a lot GI Joe back in the day, one of the few games that gave me a lot of time on arcades. I will try the other ones in MAME :D
A little musing: I theorize that Galactic Storm is basically Space Invaders, but in 3D and hyped way up.
I missed a lot of these, i had no idea sprite scaling could look so good!
I miss the days of sprite sailing games. They had a unique charm to them.
I've only seen the moving sit-down version of the Rail Chase in the arcades. Very fun ride indeed!
I loved th full on Galaxy Force cabinet. It looked like a moon space craft.
This was a great episode, congrats! I'm sure you played Project: Horned Owl on the first Playstation... Not an unforgettable game, but funny rail shooter with gun. For sure I can't forget those amazing sprites mecha bosses moving on a fluid 3D environment. Wish I could have more games with that graphics style nowadays...
I sure have played Horned Owl but I don't remember much about it. It must have been about 20 years ago when I played that game :)
Alien 3 The Gun was released in the US as well. Used to play the hell out of it when I was pre-teen!
I still love the old super scalers, I've finally got an arcade emulator up and running on my laptop and to play the likes of outrun, chase hq and spacegun is good fun
Ah, the classic super Scaler games will always be classics.
Air Rescue looks like it could been made a mech sim - and Galactic Storm shows how the mechs could have looked like.
So very true!
Just to add to the global survey of Alien 3: The Gun players. I played it once at an arcade here in the states over 20 years ago. It may have been quite rare, as I had never seen it since. It made quite an impression on me, though.
Well done yakumo! I would like to add Power Drift and Radmobile. I swear you pick the best/obscure games I have never heard of.
+larrshin shin I will do a 2D sprite based racing show in the future. That will feature Power Drift and Radmobile :)
Pretty certain my brother and I played the Rail Chase game in Netherlands many years ago. And Alien 3 The Gun I'm almost certain was in the Trocadero for years. Evidently from many other comments here, it was a popular import!
Was half expecting to see Buck Rogers: Planet of Zoom featured, as it was an early 3D sprite game. Less well known was Tube Panic, played that as part of a gaming challenge a long time ago!
You still can play rail chase in Amsterdam at the Ton Ton club :). They have the deluxe model with the moving rail cart. Awesome game.
+BenLang77 classic. I've seen that version.
railchase and many others in this comp for some reason look more 3d than most modern games
One title that comes to mind is Blaster - a game from Williams Electronics released in 1983, and all I can say without giving too much away is that graphically speaking, it blows Ambush out of the water.
Oh, and it's a first-person space shooter.
Sounds interesting. I'll have to check that out.
I saw and played that Alien 3 the gun in Zimbabwe in the 1990s ,interesting to know it was an import, Keep the awsome videos coming they are very informative.
Glad you enjoyed the video.
You need to mention the Jarrasic Park arcade game. It's a sprite based 3-D shooter. I grew up playing that game. It's pretty fun.
+Pacsponge I plan on covering this subject again in a future show. I'll be sure to add jurassic Park.
+Retro Core Great. Excited for the next episode.
I'd like to mention Gradius III. Most of the levels are 2D but it does have a few 3D sprite-scaling based levels.
It does? I never knew this. I've played the SFC version many times but never the arcade.
I'm pretty sure I played the Alien 3 gun game in an arcade in Blackpool that had a lot of rare cabinets from what I remember the guns were fixed to the cabinet sort of like a joystick. It was pretty cool.
Omg Rail Chase!! I've been wanting to find out the name of that game for ages. Have really fond memories of playing the original arcade machine where you stand in an actual rail cart that jolts and shudders as you play.
+Alex Jones that's right! There is also a rail chase 2.
There was someone remaking doing doom sprites as voxels I bet dark edge would come out great with something like that
Excelente trabajo! saludos desde Argentina!
Cool topic man :). I really enjoy your show.
+Jredd Trex cheers, man.
That G.I. Joe game was so fun. Also, really easy. I could beat it on a single quarter.
great episode! I want to see titles like Lucky and Wild!
Lucky and Wild may appear in the next show when I cover these types of games.
Never seen Dark Edge or Rail Chase before! Really interesting stuff!
+SEGADriven.com Sega made a lot of very interesting game back in the 90s. May were good but some had fantastic ideas but we're ultimately awful to play such as Holosium
I really think this show is getting better and better. Now Game Sack has gone down, i think you'll see a big jump in viewers.
Game Sack has gone down? Oh, you mean in quality? I guess that happens once you've made over so many shows. I do still enjoy a bit of Game Sack though. I sure wouldn't say no to more view :)
+Retro Core Game Sack is just taking some time off. They have been tired out since they started doing weekly episodes and some negative comments have gotten them down. They are coming back with an episode every two weeks. They posted about it on Facebook.
ah, bummer. I can understand though. Doing the weekly shows is a lot of work. I do Battle of the Ports every week and now Retro Core twice or three times a month. I have next to no real gaming time. So I can see why they are taking a break.
My brother and I actually played and beat alien the gun here in the us, our local movie theater had it as well as the t2 game. When you get to the last boss you character curses, it was the first time I heard a curse in a video game. I think he said "oh sh*t!"
I really enjoyed this. Thank you.
+cpnnpr you're welcome. If there's anything else you'd like to see please let me know.
Nightstriker would be cool.
+Crouton Doom I was just thinking the same thing. Graphics and soundtrack were superb and the cabinet design with the Body Sonic and tunnel lighting was cool. Night Striker was really hard to find, even in Japan. I remember the rumors at the arcades was that Taito only manufactured a few hundred for the entire country.
love this style of games.
I played Alien the gun in Glasgow quite regular, in Treasure Island arcade, in the mid 90’s. Cost £1 a credit. Probably pumped at least £10 to complete the thing.
1 pound a credit in the 90's. Bloody hell, that's expensive. Should have been 50 pence at most.
This video could have really done without the fake scan lines. Between that, the fast motion, and the compression youtube puts on every video, it really messes with the video quality. Even at 720p.
Haven't seen this one and I'm amazed with some games but not surprised knowing most are from Sega. You missed the Rambo game that's looks practically the same as gijoe. Will save this video so I can look out some games I haven't seen before there's about 3 or four that I already played them. Thanks 👍
I hope to do a follow up video in the future.
I actually like Rail Chase.
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DBZ Ki Blast effect !!!
I guess I should read the comments before posting.
I remembered in stage 4 of Gradius III AC that there is a 3D section stage which makes me think that konami went overboard with the design, it's like they're on drugs when making that game
Sprite based games! Come back!!!
Sprite based 3D games were so cool. Sure, they were limited but the imagination ran wild.
Are you sure that's true about Alien 3: The Gun? We had one in my local bowling alley in Heathrow.
Me too....
Any desire to revisit this topic? Could include really early non-scaler stuff like Radar Scope, Juno First, Exerion, Gyruss, and the space war section of Gorf, and more scaler stuff like the 3D stages in Ajax, Tube Panic, Zoom 909/Buck Rogers, Turbo, and Enduro Racer. I'm not sure what your rules are for inclusion, but there's definitely more to cover, and I'd love to see this topic revisited!
I do have a plan to revisit this topic in the future. I have many things I'd like to cover but sadly real life work just gets in the way 😢
@@RetroCore It's impressive that you've got work, family life, and are still keeping this channel on a frequent release schedule. You have my respect.
I don't know if this has happened with anyone other than me but around 2005 sprite based 3D games started to look really dated to me but around 2011-12 they started to look nice again! It's weird, I know.
I know what you mean. I think it's because we became so accustom to seeing silky smooth polygons that the blocky sprite based stuff just looked awful. As time passes you begin to realise how easy it is to make 3D games using polygons gain more respect for those classic sprite scalers.
This is a really cool episode, I really want to play a few of the games.
Yes, some of them are really good fun. They were much better back in the day of course but even now they can be great fun.
Neat, don't think I've ever seen Air Rescue, did like Choplifter a lot. Jeez "Help, help, help..." :P Really a technical genre suited to the Saturn best for all the high image memory requirements. I kind of liked the evolution of this engine type during the PS1 era of polygonal buildings and sprite characters in Japanese console games IE. building are boxy unlike people and it's hard to approximate topography with sprites. Cool feature topic. ;)
Ah, chopper lifter (the Sega version) was a great game back in the day. Such a great use of parallax on the Master System port too.
how I never saw that "cabal" GI Joe arcade down here?
Tecfri was from Spain, yes :)
Good video, I would like to add the alien the gun was released in USA and UK. in fact most of the machines were built in the UK. I recently uploaded my service manual with such info on klov website.
Thanks for the input. Seems there's some bad information on the net stating it was a Japanese only release. I'll have to add an annotation to the video.
Those reflections in AquaJack...
oh yes some of these games look like great fun!! thanks again for my 20min well spent watching xD
I really miss the days of 2D sprite scaling games. They were amazing. The effects you could pull off with the right hardware and imagination blew my mind back on the 80s.
Alien 3 the gun was all over the place here in Australia. One of my faves
+Matthew Leo yeah, it seems my source of information was wrong. I've since added an annotation to the video.
+Matthew Leo every arcade in belgium had this game...loved it
Great video. Subscribed.
man great work! imlearning so much About arcade games, thank you! Just a question what emulator do you use most? and whats the hardware that you use (config wise) cause i want to build myself an arcade and im inclined to buy a raspberry pi 3.do you Think this Will be enough?
Willian monteiro pires thanks for watching the videos.
A raspberry pi 3 will run a lot of Arcade games but it will not run a lot of the more demanding games such as polygon titles or even some of there sprite scaling games.
Personally I use an i5 Windows 7 system with 8gb of ram and a Nvidia G-Force card (can't remember the spec now) that can run PC games at Xbox I levels. As for emulators I use a variety of different ones. The main two are MAME and Final Burn Alpha but I also use Super Model for Sega Model 3 games and model 2 emulator for, yep, Sega Model 2 games and Naomi games. I also have another emulator I use for Sammy Atomiswave games. Sadly I'm not at home now so I can't check the name of it.
Sprite-based 3D games are so charming! Definitely need Air Rescue in my life. So hopefully that one runs okay in MAME.
And G.I. JOE was a master stroke! That game deserved every quarter crammed into it! Shame it never saw a home port, or maybe it's a blessing. We've seen what happens when they try porting games to hardware that just can't handle it...
I think the Alien 3 game eventually made it over to the states, because I've seen it in movie theater lobbies now and then.
That GI Joe game would need more than a few quarters :) It's rock solid in later levels :)
Retro Core My only gripe about the game, is that its based on the really crummy second series of the show.
Andrew Vrba ah, I wouldn't know that I'm afraid. Never actually watched the show.
Retro Core As I understand it, the show was edited and re-branded into something called "Action Force" in the UK.
That was the toys which were rebranded. The show was still GI Joe although I don't know if it was actually aired on normal TV over here. It came out just at a time I would have stopped watching Cartoons that much. The last shows I actively watched were TMNT, the Real Ghostbusters and Dungeons and Dragons. I don't think I watched anything newer. Of course I did watch loads of great Cartoons as a kid. I made a top 10 cartoon themes video which can be found on my channels main page.
Looks to me like Aquajack has a few Operation Wolf sprites.
Ah, it may do. I should check that again.
How did I not already know of Galactic Storm!? Excellent! Is it related somehow to Galactic Attack/RayForce/Layer Section?
I don't think so. It just shares a name with the western release of the Saturn port of Ray Force / Layer Section
Man I love this stuff. Too bad around 92 I was way more into girls and rock and roll. Now I have to pay top dollar to get all these great games I missed out on!!
Haha, you should have been it to both. In 1992 I was 17. Take a trip to the arcades with mates then take the girlfriend out to a movie :)
Actually, that explains why I never had any money back then. DOH!
I played alien 3 the gun at pont abraham services on m4, now i wonder how it got there?
Seen 3 or 4 of those Alien 3 machines in the UK, Never knew they were imports.
+wrena79 yeah, apparently it was only officially released in Japan.
BTW, in some games (A.B Cop) there was something wrong with scanline effect.
Ah, that's the TH-cam encoding that messes them up. There's nothing I can do to fix that I'm afraid.
Great show as always. Are you sure about Alien 3 being a Japanese only release? I remember the local laser tag venue here had it.
According to a few Web sites it was only officially released in Japan. It could have been imported though.
AquaJack, at least there are no pixelated sprites like segas there.
+Vincent GR Yeah but the game isn't that good. Fantastic music though.
Run and Gun from Konami.
Good enough that Crystal Dynamics ripped it off with Slam N'Jam on the 3DO.
+Tempora158 yeah but Slam'n Jam was awful.
+Retro Core Magazine reviews thought it was great. Or maybe great relative to other 3DO games. What about NBA Give N' Go? Better or worse than Slam N' Jam given the SNES can't do sprite scaling?
I guess anything remotely playable was given a good mark on the 3DO. Looking back it was a system with many poor games.
Seen quite a few of the Alien 3 games in the United States during the 90's.... Are you sure it was only officially released in Japan? Because I remember it being quite common here.
Yeah, I checked it out on a few Web sites. The general opinion is that is was only officially released in Japan. I guess it could have been a popular import though.
your channel deserves way more popularity. honestly its great. im definitely a fan. do you live in asia?
Thank you, virustwin. Yeah, I've been trying to get more subs and fans for a long time but it never seems to work. Any ideas?
Yes, I do live in Asia. I've been living in Japan now for 18 years. Since November 1998.
Awesome.. got to visit Japan one day. The gaming industry is notoriously difficult to break into on youtube. ill be honest, i think your content is top notch. i look at the evolution of some gaming channels like the gaming historian, lgr (lazy game reviews), gamesack, rerez, antdude, jontron and more, that show how much production value can 'upgrade' a channel (better cameras, mics, backgrounds etc) but what i love about them is that they each have they own 'thing' going, and that's important. they dont try to copy a formula and you are on the right track with that. your channel is unique and thats what i believe will propel you. also, since you live in Japan and a lot of your content is Japanese in nature, maybe you can highlight that as a feature of your channel. i dont see many gaming channels focusing on foreign (outside of USA, i'm from Trinidad) consoles and content and that can be used to give you more of a spotlight. finally, i would try to get a cameo or a team up video with one of the more popular channels, like a segment on their show or, better yet, feature them on a segment of your show where applicable and let them shout out your channel on theirs. thats how i discovered many channels and im sure how many other viewers did the same. I love your work and i'll continue to watch and i look forward to seeing your channel grow mate. keep at it and try new things, your fans will let you know if they like it. and dont be afraid to ask them to spread the word every now and then.
oh and one more thing. if you're comfortable with it, talk a little more about yourself and your channel itself. people tend to support channels where they know 'who' they are supporting. q & a videos, etc are great ways to let fans in. (forgive me if you have already done these, i havent been able to browse all of your content yet, but i'm getting there ;)
virustwin some great words of advice right there. I like the idea of doing a collaboration with a larger channel. I was thinking of asking Guru Larry as he gets some good views plus ive seen him posting on my videos from time to time as well as him knowing I post on his. I think I'll give that a shot.
Thanks!
+Retro Core awesome. I love his videos as well especially the fact hunt series. I would thoroughly enjoy a collab between you two. all the best mate. keep the videos coming
virustwin
Thanks man. Yep, I love his Fact Hunt series too. Good stuff.
and yeah... our arcade in Piqua Ohio had Alien 3 and it rocked!
Which model is that silver Mega drive in the beginning of the video? It's really nice looking
It's a standard Japanese Mega Drive 1 that I painted myself a few years ago. The Mega Drive decals on it came from Sega back in 2008. They were selling official console decals on their online store in Japan. They weren't cheap mind you.
Ah. I see. You did a great paint job on it. Looks legit.
Rad looking genesis
The picture of TAITO's 3D games resembles NIGHT STRIKER very much.
These may be that a developer is the same.
If Somebody makes these sprite 3D games in the present times, They will get praise and ridicule.
All the 3D games turned into a polygon. It is a matter of course but I regret it a little.
Night Striker is one of my favourite Taito sprite scaling games. I own the Mega CD and Sega Saturn versions. The music is also really good on Night Striker.
I do like 3D polygon games but I really miss the sprite scaling games. They had a real charm. Some even look like polygons such as Alien 3 The Gun.
Who came first: Retro Core or Game Sack? Both similar channels.
Retro Core was on TH-cam before Game Sack and was actually available off TH-cam way before game Sack. Saying that, the format to Retro Core was so different back then. In its current form I'd say Game Sack was first. As for the longest running series, well that's Retro Core.
Retro Core
oh! thanks!
I think you'd enjoy Asteriy and Obelix XXl on the GBA.
Air Rescue reminds me of a '3D' Desert Strike in a way. Night Striker is one I picked up recently you might enjoy?
Oh and what the hell was keeping that mine-cart going through the woods lol??
Night Striker I know all too well. Bought the Mega CD game back in 1993 or there abouts. I also own the Saturn version.
+wrena79 magic :)
+Retro Core figured you'd be familiar with it ;-)
Buck Rogers: Planet if Zoom
ROCKIN AS ALWAYS :)
Alien 3 The Gun only released in Japan??
It was in absolutely loads of arcades up and down the UK when it was released??
Probably imports.
@@RetroCore I didn't actually think that you'd reply with it being a 3 year old video lol!
I just remember it being very popular at the time. I played it in one of the sea front arcades in Seaton carew in Teesside.
All it was is your surprise and perhaps disappointment at the fact that it was only released in Japan when it was so readily available here, import or not?
I really enjoyed your video. There loads of cracking games on list 🙂👍
Alien 3 the gun game was released in the United States a senior in Las Vegas Nevada
I think it must have been in limited numbers or imported European machines as a few have mentioned they've seen it in the US.
Like the choices here, but I need to upgrade before sticking MAME on my PC.
That's the problem with a lot of these sprite scaling games. Many of them are not emulated 100% perfectly. So even with an upgraded PC you may still see some issues. MAME emulation really does eat up a lot of resources. Final Burn Alpha is better for many games however that doesn't run as much cool stuff as MAME.
can you to compilation of mashups, of 2d 3d, sprite megred with polygons? would enjoy that like this one
Maybe in the future.
God god, made my eyes water...
If you don't do emulation, how did you get the ROMs for these games?
Also, why don't you do emulation?
Obviously these games are emulated but when I do the console reviews as part of the Retro Core 5 show then in that case all games are running on real hardware.
I try not to use emulation because emulation isn't always perfect. Battle of the Ports uses emulation for a lot of the games since it would be impossible to do the show otherwise.
Then how did you get the ROMs for the games you showed this episode?
I really enjoyed "In The Line Of Fire" at the time, played that loads although on reflection it's actually a bit rubbish.
Yeah, it is. Quite a few of the classics are a but rubbish these days.
Sega driving games looked best, so cover those, outrunners is fantastic, and Monaco GP arcade looks amazing with the side decorations compared to the Mega Drive version, power drift was the other one? Also Jaleco had a good looking F1 game with fancy mode 7 clouds. I'm sure I'm missing a ton more pre phone logon 3D racers
I should do a follow up to this video.
Retro Core that would be awesome :)
What shader are you using? Is this on retroarch?
Ah, this video was made a while ago. Think I was using either default mame shaders or I had the PC running through a Framemeister.
I think Alien3 was planned to be released in the west. I even have the ROMs and RAMs for a potential western release on MAME.
No Rad Mobile?
I wanted to stay clear of racing games and focus on the more obscure and none racing sprite scaling titles. I will cover Rad Mobile in the future though.
I mean, a plan for a western release for Alien3 AT THE TIME.
Oh, I see.
I am really looking for all these games But before i buy i need to know that the games:[ 'Power Stone 1, 2 & 3 are included, Tekken 7, The Newest Pokémon Games, All Mortal Kombat Games, Killer Instinct Games
I can wait for the newest Pandora Box if i need to
I luv [ Power Stone 1, 2 & 3)
Thanks
what's the hover bike game called???
It is called AB Cop (Air Bike Cop)
@@RetroCore thanks man!