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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- This scene is activated of you save Halsin from the jail then side with the goblins. A few days later he will come to your camp to confront you, and fight you.
Timestamps:
0:00 Confrontation
0:25 Option 1
0:50 Option 2
1:09 Option 3
1:25 Option 4
1:30 Party Comments
My cosmetic mod list:
Clothing - Basket Full of Equipment
Face Presets - Loulette Heads, Ellian's and Ervyn's Face, Male Heads - FF14 Emet-Selch, Alt ShadowHeart Head Presets
Hair - Tav's Hair Salon, Vessnelle's Hair Collection, Customizer's Compendium
Chokers - Ellian's Trinkets
Things I've learned:
1: I have upended nature's balance.
2: Only my death can restore it.
Was it worth it though
@@rintv3675 well, these boots have seen everything
@derpidius6306 And my hands are cursed, and I must put them on everything.
@@derpidius6306 dont forget ive got alot on my mind, and well in it
@@fanfan6805besides, the only way out is through.
That Astarion “Yes, well, these things happens. What’ll you do ?” while just casually going back to reading his book killed me 😂😂😂
He is so often unbothered by things it cracks me up.
He gives zero fucks and it's honestly refreshing sometimes
@@revanchists Everyone else in camp can just be appalled by a decision I made and then Astarion is over there like "Hah no way."
I love the complete indiference they show to someone else's dead, the same indiference when you kill Astarion when he reveals to be a Vampire hahaha, shit happens
there's also a another option where you can say, "Wait... who the hells are you?' to him. And his reponse is, "I am Halsin. First Druid of the Emerald Grove. And I am here to visit nature's fury upon you." and then he attacks you.
Wonder how you get that, since usually if you don't free him from the goblins camp, you find him dead later
@@Fierth Probably by killing the goblins, and then making an effort to not talk to him/free him in his bear form.
My name halsin first Druid! You killed my grove, prepare to die.
@@Fierth i forced druids to fight tieflings then stole their idol, and fast travel to goblin camp, reported to Minthara, she came to check and finish what's left, after night of celebration i went to the prison room and found that everyone is dead here except Helsin who somehow escaped, but i never got this scene imho cuz i went to the other location right after checking the prison
@@TheRifildYou find out what happened to him later. You don't find his body, but when you recruit minthara. She has his journal, implying she may have dealt with the freed druid sometime after.
"First druid, and now last druid. Thanks to us."
That line is so cold like DAMN TAV
Yes, well, these things happen. What'll you do?
@@DrakeWurrum*goes back to reading like nothing happened*
I don't think I could ever bring myself to do an evil playthrough. Killing the scared tieflings, fighting with Daddy Halsin, having Gale, Wyll, and Karlach leave, it's too much for me.
It's too bad goblins and gnolls are arguably just evil in this game though, though it's realistic that some species would fall prey to a higher form of authority. Just sucks you gotta kill them for refugees to survive.
You can technically still keep gale, through it requires a charisma check as far as I know
I felt that way. Irl I'm your typical sunshine nice girl and when playing RPGs I always go for the nice/hero option (maybe some grey hero but still heroic.) Then after learning more about the Dark Urge I was intrigued by the plot and did a play through and just did a full evil run.
Idk if it's just because I try not to be mean in real life and those feelings were coming out. Maybe it was just because it presented a completely new game experience. But the evil Durge line was challenging (Halsin is actually one of my go to romances) but really worth it I think doing once for lore/story and a new experience. Not for the faint of heart but yeah surprised I enjoyed it so much.
The only things keeping me from doing an evil playthrough is daddy Halsin and mommy karlach tbh
@@edsontorrontegui9491its a dnd thing, some races just are inherently evil
Halsin: "King dragon sends his regards..."
Oh good im glad im not the only one who thinks of that skit when i saw this
I understood that reference..
Difference is here it makes sense that you can't change his mind at this point. Why the hell would he do anything bar attack you after you destroyed the grove?
For some reason, I just really like the way Shart casually goes back to her tent and just immediately pulls out this suddenly oversized & spiky astral prism from her backside, then starts plying at this sacred object of her mission and pricks her finger on it whilst doing so.
Not the nickname💀😭
only a prism full
That's Shitfart for you
SHART
Shart, Asstarion, Turdlach, The Dark Stain ...
Scary seeing Halsin who is usually such a chill guy being so mad
This moment almost broke me in my evil run. I loved Halsin so much in my first run and I knew there would be *consequences* in an evil run but this took me by suprise.
How do you get this scene he never visited me at camp and I just found him dead in front of the grove
My sister has been playing it for the first time and she killed Kagha without investigating her. Now the grove is sealed. Karlach blamed everything on Tav. What happens with Halsin?
it's a good thing my durge didn't save him before killing the grove, this would of been very hard for me
lol hilariously my first play through went through the same exact thing, kagha was threatening to kill annabell so i decided she had to die, i killed her, did a long rest and when i came back the grove was sealed. i had to just redo my campaign , i believe in our case Halsin just dies at the goblin camp@@Lunakitty1234
@@Lunakitty1234I believe you either free halsin from the goblin camp and he joins you on your journey to moonrise or he attacks you. Also since all the tieflings are dead their quests later are lost
Man I could never bring myself to hurt Halsin. He's one of those characters that I can never kill and can only just ignore if I don't want them in my playthrough. Him and Astarion are my babies.
Unfortunately he always dies if you side with the Goblins no matter what, even if you ignore the jail completely and never even meet him. If you go to the jail after the grove is destroyed you'll find that he escaped and all the Goblins that were guarding him are dead, you'll then find his body outside the entrance to the grove next time you go there.
Angry Halsin hits different (and thanks for sharing since I'll never ever make this choice 🤣)
honestly its such a chore siding with the druids if it wasn't for the tieflings i'd siege the grove every time
It's *because* of the tieflings that I will siege the grove every time.
Sad if you kill the Tiefs you can't get the potent robe in act 2
@@SLEEPYDOGINU Yes, but have you considered the following: less tieflings wiping their taints on my pristine countryside.
You could save both of them of you just expose Kagha
@@madprophet6891 at least the pfp matches the opinion
Halsin is such a nice guy that it actually makes me feel awful seeing him so angry and hurt
In my first playthrough I killed the druids and tieflings, then went to rescue halsin and sided with Minthara, he still joined my camp as if nothing happened
Ya I think there’s an update now where you can’t recruit them both
It was a big dummy
@@0DeathWish0 You still can but you need to side with the druids, knock out minthara (not kill her) and then rescue her at moonlight towers
@@juanbriones268and its kinda weird too, you can't agro her through the dialogue, you need to attack her or steal something to make her "temporarily hostile" and then knock her out
I’m so glad I just ignored him this playthrough since I’m being evil 😭 if he showed up angry at me I’d just feel bad and reload
"Was it worth it?"
Ummm... Halsin let me introduce you to Minthara and that drowussy.. lol keep being evil!
Halsin: "You have upended nature's balance. Only your death can restore it!"
Tav: "Pretty funny words coming from man who looks pretty flammable."
_*casts fireball_
Halsin: "You have upended nature's balance. Only your death can restore it!"
Tempest cleric Tav with weird blue scales on their face: Thunder feel the thunder, lightning then the thunder
I could never do this to Halsin. I love that bear of a man too much.
Astarion being correct as always.
Halsin is my favorite. Thanks for the video, i couldn’t stomach doing this myself. 💔
*Halsin dies*
Lae'zel: Oh come on Halsin! what did you expect?
THERE'S SO MANY UNIQUE INTERACTIONS IT'S MINDBLOWING
I'm getting a headache trying to imagine the seven square mile flow chart they must have drawn to make this game
You have upended nature's balance. Only your death can restore it.
No not Daddy Halsin 🥺
I have never seen Halsin so mad in my entire life or game play.
just read the description so far but i didn't even know this was a thing, then again, i've never sided with the goblins, so that could be why 😝
halsin vanished from my world, he was a bit flabbergasted to find all of the entire grove dead after i helped him kill the eniter goblin camp.
Ahh, interesting. I didn’t realise this would happen cos we lost him at the goblin camp, I thought he could survive the fight on his own but he could only heal so many times and then he died.
Please make more..
We need more
A friend and I did an evil run where we destroyed the grove then lied to Halsin when we freed him saying "See you there!"
Then we saw his dead body in front of the gate and I'm honestly confused as to why we didn't get this scene.
Well because he was dead obviously
King dragon sends his reguards
Nahh I did this entire thing by mistake. I didn’t mean to give away the location of the grove, but I did by accident. I then killed Gut and Dror and the entire goblin camp but Minthara had already left to go prepare to attack the camp. Halsin went off to help them but they were too weak, they all died, so I then killled minthara and the rest of her goblins, after I long rested. So none of my companions left the party, but I was forced to kill Karlach, and when Halsin attack I tried to non lethal attack him but he died anyway. I’m accidentally on an evil run through, but I just like to think that my orc bard is a bit of a morally confused guy.
I wished i could have seen this in my evil run, now i regret a bit killing him before raiding the grove, but i couldnt risk losing his clothes.
I could NEVER do this to Halsin, I love him so much. Watching this hurt me so bad 🥲
Oh man so many options to get out of it 😂😂😂
Man, the first time I see this. I never left Halsin alive on my evil runs...I gotta give it a try next time
I killed his entire grove when i saw that snake woman , but i never told hin this and never went back to the grove
I sided against the tieflings in one of my runs because I wanted to do things very differently and see different scenes and everything. I was actually in a way happy that I left Halsin to be killed by the goblins because it spared me from seeing this. Though slaughtering the tieflings felt so goddamn terrible… I could never do that again.
Tav : First Druid, and now last druid. Thanks to us.
Astarion : -Dash-
Why can't I say ,,It wasn't and I made a mistake. Im sorry."? Thats seems like on of the most reasonable interactions.
Thank god you had written "option X" in big letters. Otherwise I'd have no idea about the video's script. :D
Option 4 - "I think we all know where this is going, so let's just skip to the end!"
"Murders a man after genociding his entire cult of tree huggers"
Shaodwheart, I didn't know you were scared of wolves UWU
So, in my recent evil playtrough I sided with Minthara and never bothered to visit Halsin. When I looked for him the next day he seems to have escaped on his own, which makes sense since when you interact with him he is able to free himself from the cage. He probably is also capable of dealing with some Goblins and children. So what I'm curious about is whether you can find him again after this. I haven't finished the playtrough but he certainly isn't present in act 2 where I expected him to be
Yeah in my Dark Urge playthrough, I started a rebellion at the grove, in which the only person left alive in the whole place at the end was Silfy who had for some reason moved to where he stands if you clear the goblin camp. Anyway, sided with Minthara, got to grove and just walked to Zevlor's room where Minthara was waiting, broke her neck during the party celebrations and ever since have been expecting Halsin to show up because just like with you, when I went to the Goblin Camp, all the goblins and their pets were lying dead and his cage open. Interestingly, none of the Goblins were anywhere else in the camp other than some friendly looter.
I've not traversed to Act 2 in that playthrouggh yet so it is interesting to see your story where he hasn't even shown up for you even in Act 2.
@@SirUlrichVL yeah, when I visited the harpers I was exspecting to see Halsin telling on me to Jaheira but nothing happend. Altough it could be possible that Halsin appearing is a long rest event like shown in the video and I'm severly lacking in long rest if that makes sense. I only met the servant of Durge after getting the second 'boon', they actually added a line where the servant goes something like " I wanted to meet you, but you murdered your way trough the swordcoast so quickly out of your own volition, I just could not Interrupt your vile art". More Importatly the encounter gave me the second boon but the unique cloak you get for murdering Afira I didn't seem to get. Therefore I locked Myself from a pretty good item, just a quick reminder because it could also happen to you
@@thewalkingmeat8523 As mentioned, I snapped Minthara's neck during the romance cut-scene and yet when it cut to daylight at camp there wasn't a body to loot. Also I didn't get the scene with Alfira before she died in the rebellion, so I ended up with her replacement for the Dark Urge camp scene and then I got the first meeting with the butler afterwards.
It is a great cape, so cool for my Shadow Monk.
Going back to Halsin another thing is that I still have quest to find him that points to the Goblin Camp but as mentioned he ain't there and quest doesn't update with any acknowledgement that he is gone
I did the same thing however I found Halsin dead in front of the gate at the grove he had all his companion gear on his person if you have speak with the dead I think he says he was killed by the goblins or some shit and another funny thing if you are in the shadow lands and go back to where Arabella’s parents died in the grove they will act as they were still ambushed by the cult and say zevlor froze and some other stuff yet they died in grove still
@@thewalkingmeat8523 Jaheira and Halsin don't know each other. They've only heard of one another when there was a battle with Ketheric hundreds of years prior. You introduce them and they acknowledge each other and that's about the extent of it. If you go and kill the Nightsong, then Jaheira dies but Halsin remains in your party, however if you spare the Nightsong, you can get both in your party and I don't know how they will interact after that. Druids are supposed to have a very structured system and both being the same level might create some competition.
You see I forgot to save Halsin, and found his body outside the grove as I was looking for more walking xp caches
Im curious, how do you get this outcome? You rescue Halsin in the prison and then tell him to wait there, go up and speak with Minthara and then massacre the grove? And he's gonna just appear during a long rest?
"You upended natures balance" buddy I think you and your grove did that long ago when you decided to let an owlbear freely nest in your territory
He's so commanding, I'd never do anything to hurt his feelings 😢 Fortunately, others would! 😂
Steal philomena's gunpowder and you get a special interaction with her cutscene ... She tries to threaten to blow you up but there's no power so tav becomes smug😂
Everyone in the grove was already dead before I released Halsin or triggered the Goblin raid, he ended up going there by himself and dying offscreen lol
I didn't realize you were afraid of wolves, Shadowheart 🤔
I took a long rest just before departing to mountain pass after I freed Halsin, destroyed the grove and explored everything including underdark. Where was he the entire time? I just pressed "attack", because he didn't bother to defend his home himself.
I only wish scenarios like these, where you fight your allies, were a little more challenging
Evil route would definitely be more appealing if instead of good companions leaving you, they get souped up into a full miniboss. Let Wyll call on Mizora for a desperate boost in power, summoning devils in defense of the grove. Let Karlach push her engine to its limits, risking her life to get the strength to end yours. Make the evil route feel like you’re the final boss of someone else’s story
@@germesthegenie8574 that's actually such a cool idea + it will boost your relations with Minthara since she sure will protect you as a paladin
As a mage that romances lazel you have to duel her 1vs1. Not a good experience. Also as a durge if you roll badly on deception you will have to fight all of your companions at the same time.
@@germesthegenie8574 Or let you corrupt some of them.
do you have to set up camp in the grove or something for this? I raided the grove and never had Haslin come to my camp, I looked for him in the goblin camp, he broke out, never fought him at the grove so i have no idea where he is lol
1:52 yes, well, this things happen 🤷 life goes on (not Halsin's)
i freed him from jail and then sides with minthara and i never got this scene damn
yo Astarion and Laezel are so fucking funny LMAO
Astarion: Yes very sad…. anyway-
But.... WHAT YOU DONE?!!!
LMAO ASTARION. WHy is he literally the funniest in the whole group? :D
He's so hot when he's angry
I just kill all the druids after the teifling quest is done. Very cathartic
It's funny, I did the "Evil run", sided with minthara, wiped out the grove and never had this cutscene with Halsin.. idk why...
You have to help Halsin out in prison so he knows who you are, first.
Yeah the game does that sometimes. I killed Kagha, and apparently Karlach's supposed to hate you for it but she didn't care.
Geezus, i don't have a lot of rpg or dnd experience, but this is the first time I've witnessed all options leading to the same outcome. Now i understand that viva la dirt league video
man I freed him then destroyed the grove on my current run and I'm just confused how I never saw this
no body near the grove, no scene at camp, dude just completely vanished from the game and I'm almost done with act 2
Halsin so useless he didn't even came up in my Durge run to claim revenge 😂
Well, I think he was wise enough, he would have ended like Alfira, probably.
I wasted time freeing him (just to kill him later) and he didn't even show up 😂
This is all the power an "archdruid" has to offer? Pathetic.
*Kills entire Grove with children and innocents*
"Calm Down my friend. Come sit by the fire and we can talk this over and smoke some za."
Like it always should be because there are always the reasons
I stole the idol, the druids went aggro on tieflings and killed them all, then the druids attacked me as well and I had to kill all the druids. After a long rest, I discovered that the center of the grove was covered in a poisonous cloud and Shadowheart got an inspiration point, something like "the sorrow of Sylvanus".
Afterwards, when I went to goblin camp and found Halsin, I told him I killed all the druids in self-defence. He was like, "well shit, but okay, the leaders still have to die". So I killed the leaders, went back to him, and he said he'll "meet me at the camp after he takes care of some business first". He never came to the camp.
Is this a bug, or just an unfinished quest option?
So what happens if you knock him out instead of killing him on this fight? I'm curious
Im terms of logic I would actually doubt that the group would have a chance against the archdruid at their level (halsin probably would already be max level considering his age and status)
I think lore wise he should be around level 18 as an archdruid, but for balance reasons he's only level 5, in the game the max level is 12 so that should tell you how powerful he is
I killed the grove and sided with minthara but halsin never showed up hmm
Wait how the heck do you get this? I've done a couple evil runs but halsin always just appears dead in front of the Grove after the goblin party
Natures balance wont cure even if character is dead lol did he firget theres all kinds of monsters and bad guys all over the world fucking shit up? Lol
All I need to do is beat the goblins abusing Halsin and then tell him to stay put while I side with Minthy, right?
Seeing Halsin angry makes me sad. He's my big bear daddy 😭
He’s too sweet fr fr
Why you making daddy mad?
I just wonder how little it takes to upend nature's balance, seeing as how he almost goes into a murder rage just from being in a city
To be fair that WAS Orin pretending to be Halsin. She was probably rolling hella deception dice for that improv.
yeah the real halsin does say he's not a fan of being in the city but isn't anywhere near to being in a "murder rage" because of it
how does this happen? like what circumstances / sequence need to happen for Halsin to escape the goblin camp, make it to the grove, but survive the whole massacre and come for you?
You need to release him from his cell and tell him you'll kill the leaders. Then instead of killing the leaders you raid the grove. You can't help him escape because that locks out the raid the grove option
free halsin, tell. him to wait by the prison, go out, talk to minthara to raid the grove, then just raid the grove and he'll come during a rest
Wait how do I even get that ending?
Astarion is too funny. Then there's Dame Grinch Laz'rael being extra.
I can't side with Minthara because she called my character ugly--- like wtf, YOU'RE the one looking like the Blue People of Kentucky. (aka The Blue Fugates)
Oufffff “only your death can restore it” is doing things to meeeee NGHH 😮💨
Blud would bust a nut in their pants if they ever got a death threat irl 💀
in my game he just disappeared? I think he just died offscreen
If you don't talk to him before doing the massacre. He breaks free but he doesn't know who tf to blame, lol.
@@Alforbia well that makes sense, nemxt PT im gonna be a good guy with wyll karlach and halsin im done being evil with Dark urge xD
Tell me...was it worth it?
Me, thinking about Minthara:
ABSOLUTley
Quesiton: does Karlach leave the party here, or does she leave it after the Grove raid?
I'm not entirely sure on the timing, but in my evil playthrough, I did it two ways. In the first way, I hadn't recruited Karlach yet when the attack on the grove happened and when I went to find her, she immediately initiated dialogue with me, condemning me for murdering the innocent people at the grove and then attacked me.
In the second scenario, she was already recruited (but at camp) when the attack happened. The moment I went back to camp after the attack, she did pretty much the same thing and attacked me. I wanted to try a third time to see what happens when you agree to the attack while Karlach is with you in the party, but I messed up my saves somewhere and I had to go too far back so I didn't bother. I would assume that she leaves your party instantly and attacks you on the spot, though I have no confirmation of that. Maybe someone who has actually done this can verify or say what actually happens.
After/while raid
@@Xylarxcodeinnocent? Come on druids surely aren’t and tieflings? The are hells soldiers
Honestly how did this scene trigger? When I went back Halsin was gone and I long rested quite a few times and nada
Do you have to free him first and tell him to wait while you kill leaders?
This is the evil route. I assume its freeing Halsin and then attacking the Grove.
It looks weak when the developers give us players the illusion of choice
Well I'ts understandable in this case that YOU choose to free him and still raid the grove so no matter what you say he is angry at you and will try to kill you
Does Gale say anything?
Why does his voice sound odd
Was it worth it? I got some sloppy toppy from a girl that's evil. Yeah it was worth it.
In my playthrough I stole the idol before anything else, causing chaos to ensue in the Grove. The druids assumed the hellspawns took it and a fight ensued leaving everyone dead.
When I rescued Halsin, he just disappears from the map after being freed from his prison, never to be seen again - so I reloaded my save and killed him before he disappeared. 😈
Saved the grove but missed the party
Returned to the grove, but Halsin is just chillin, telling me to go to a party that took place about a week ago
If the big brawny dumbass ever shows up like this, he's just getting a backhand
My sister killed Kagha and now the grove is sealed. Does the party still happen?
@Lunakitty1234 Did she save Halsin? When and how did she kill Kagha?
If your sister didn't interact with the Tieflings and just killed Kagha, the Druids might have forced out the Tieflings and finished the Rite of Thorns.
@@Moose_vk not yet, I told her to put it off and work on the other quests first so shes stronger. She killed Kagha without investigating the shadow Druids.
@Lunakitty1234 The party happens when you help the Tieflings by finishing the goblin camp quest and saving Halsin.
The questline around it is that the Druids want to seal the Grove because the army at the goblin camp will be attacking the Grove in search of the artefact that Shadowheart took from the Nautiloid.
Killing Kagha before investigating the Shadow Druids will turn all of the Druids in the Grove against both your group and the Tieflings.
If I had known his quest "Rescue Halsin" would get stuck on the celebration and wouldn't complete even after the celebration was over, I would have gladly burned the grove and enjoy Minthara as a companion who is infinitely more interesting than him.
It would've been better if there was an option along the lines of "Thanks for allowing me to finish my job". All those answers feel like you're either trying to justify youself, or you just don't care. What if I enjoyed slaugthering those hippies and I want to gleefully gloat about it to him?
Maybe as a dark urge character ? idk, never tried taking out the grove as DU.
You don't have to be DU to enjoy killing NPCs though...
I'm so pissed off with Halsin in my game. His quest in act 2 was broken so I couldn't finish it, and that has permanent reproductions. Seeing you bonk him to death was... therapeutic 😂
"Was it worth it?"
*Thinks back to Minthara sex scene.*
"...Yes."
Idk why they bother having dialogue options when Haslin is going to attack anyways.
He just wanted to hear your reason before attacking.
It's unnatural for your character to just not say anything here, but it also makes sense that Halsin would attack you no matter what you say. Sometimes dialogue options like this are necessary
the same thing happens w jaheira if she’s alive when you become bhaals chosen. i lugged her all the way to baldurs gate but one of the first things i did was kill orin cause she’s annoying and when i tried to leave jaheira was there with whatever harpers she had left and she was like “im not letting you leave this place alive”. i reloaded twice to try get her to let it go but nope
RIP BOZO 🎉🎉🎉
So Halsin uses wolf to fight while Bear for sex?? sounds a bad choice...both bad choice XD
Guys I think only his death can restore it
He doesn’t even help us fight Minthara if we side with the grove, Druids are all cowards.
There was originally a version where he would, but then they programmed it so he always shows up after. Why, I don't know. But he was originally meant to show up to help