Trash or Treasure: '05 GSX-R750 DIY Rattle Can Spray Paint
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.พ. 2021
- www.DaveMossTuning.com
Can we do a decent paint job on our fancy new bodywork with rattle can spray paint from the local hardware store (DIY store for you Brits)? Mr. Moss is very OCD with his painting process, Mr. Williams not so much... like, not a whit. Can this marriage be saved?
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For next time, you can spend a little bit more and buy some automotive paints in a can instead of enamel. That stuffs a pain to sand down later! You can buy automotive paint at any auto body supply shop with whatever color you like they can mix it for you in a can. Buy a 1k high build primer sand that with 400, 600 then spray a basecoat, and then spray 2k clearcoat. You can have them mix a single stage color and clear in one can aswell, if youre not confident in your painting skills.
Thanks for the contribution!
Good job on the panels... It is better to lay the clear on thicker, and not start and stop. Start the spray before you hit the panel and run the length and return n on a 75% overlap. Coat the edges and hard to reach places first.... Hell, at 100mph, if someone is worried about how glossy your paint looks, then racing isn't in their blood .
This video series is a treasure
Left side is Mr. Moss. Much more smooth looking! All your work inspires me to do more!
I'm going to say Dave Moss was the left hand side. Having said that, having rattle can my fair share of body work, neither of them is that bad !
These full length videos are so entertaining!
JIS screwdrivers are essential to remove stuck "phillips head" screws on japanese bikes, because of their taper they stay in and do not not try to came out as "traditional" screwdrivers would.
They saved tons of almost stripped screws from my 2003 SV650... The previous owner was a loctite enthusiast, he put that stuff everywhere (like on the seat screws), good luck taking them off.
As a professional bodywork and paint guy, soz to say you are much better at tuning suspension than you are at paintwork Dave....but I tell ya what....if you are ever over in the UK, I'll paint your bike if you set up the suspenders on two of my bikes!! Fair swap Sir? hehe.
All the best Daves, a very entertaining series. Thank You.
Done! It would be fair to say that is a screaming deal :) And yes, I hav a lot to learn about paint......
@@CatalystReactionSBWfor plastic you guys did pretty good.👍
Dave Moss: painstakingly sands and applies 300 coats of paint.
Also Dave Moss: rams a t-handle into the fairing a million times once installed.
😂
Dave Williams, editor, replying here. Dude, that is the funniest comment I have ever read on here. Brilliant.
@@CatalystReactionSBW :D
I use rattle cans a lot. I find gently warming the workpiece with a heat gun drives of any moisture and lets the paint lay really well. I also put the cans in a bucket of warm water for ten minutes. The paint becomes less viscous, let’s the rattle mix it easier and it lays better with less risk of blobs. It’s worth wiping the nozzle every half dozen passes.
Enjoyed yer video n keep them coming 👍👍
"But wait ... there is more ... " 2:14 Curb your enthusiasm ...
Wow The bike looks Really Great. Absolutely Treasure. Awesome Job Dave.
JIS vs Philly debate?
Well, I was removing the "filter sock assembly" on my fuel pump on my 09' Kawi Ninja 650R. Screws had the lil dot mark. Used a Phillips, stripped one. Stopped and remembered about JIS. Bought 4 piece JIS set off amazon same Hozon brand. The JIS screwdriver removed the stripped one pretty easy and finished the project. That was 4,000 miles ago and never looked back! JIS ftw on japan bikes! :)
When I first started racing in the early 90’s I’d prep and paint all of my fairings! It’s a hell of a lot of work! Then by the mid 90’s I was lucky enough to be sponsored by a car smash repairer, who had all the modern paint facilities available! So not only did they end up supply a professional job, they also repaired and repainted damaged ones! Much better! 👍😎🇦🇺
Well, whatever side was painted, I hope you guys inspire motorcyclists around to deal with their bikes immediately 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the great show.
Really enjoy your chanel. This series is too much fun. Serious where it is important, light where it is personal preference. I personally am more the stickler type, so I see the struggle when it comes to the "good enough" attitude, but that also keep it balanced. Well done Daves. Please continue producing instructive and entertaining content. I also recently purchased a set of JIS screwdrivers. I feel that they do hold the screws a little better. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge and experience.
Thank you for taking the time to comment Terry. I am grateful that you enjoy the series and presentation.
Thanks for a full video!
your paint job made me feel better about my own paint job. 😁
Sitting on bike, left hand side painted by Dave 😁
another solid instruction piece, love these
Thanks for watching!
Love your stuff Dave, I only learnt about JIS Screwdrivers a few years ago. Wow what a difference they make! More people need to know about this subtle, misunderstood and often unknown tool that every Japanese motorcycle owner should possess. Would it be out of the question to ask you to make a dedicated video about JIS to help spread the word?
Let me just click the like button before even watching your video coz I know for sure it is always loaded with best content.
Love from India Dave!
Painting stuff is like woodworking. 8 hours of sanding, 10 minutes of actually doing the stuff.
Dave you have the same bike as me and I'm doing the same things to it as well. It's funny the amazon pic you put up at :53 - I was looking at the same exact set/color scheme. Earlier last year I purchased NTFairings for my R6. I'm happy with them. Sometime between then and now the prices have risen by about 200 dollars.
The paint on the left side of the bike seems soo much smoother
Left/clutch side looked marginally better, but the lighting was also less forgiving on the right side.
I got to go with left side Dave, color seems to be spread better. the right side ( if paying attention to lighting) seems a bit cloudy.
I say sand the stator cover and paint it.. no sharpies...lol
That looks like one of those bikes that you turn up to buy full of enthusiasm, & then you see the dodgy paint & zip ties & say…….”erm, I think I’ll leave it actually, thanks anyway……….”make me an offer”………….no, it’s alright I don’t want it 🤣
You are not too far off from my reaction when Dave W. presented the bike to me. Apparently the visual of my face was excellent.
The best rattle can jobs are done with duplicolor then 2k clear spray paint with hardener button
Yes it does take a long time. Ugh. But love the final results.
Stevie Wonder would be absolutely made up with that paint job.
Buy the JIS for disassembly. Not to strip glued screws.
Matters less at eassembly.
Dude is 50yo pro racer and tuner but hasn't got 't a JIS set.😂
I d almost make a donation lol.
Moss on left, Williams on right... looks amazing compared to a KLR ;) (lol, think it was a great job bringing that bike back from the dead- thanks guys)
😣 that hurt
Proper prep, always.
Cans work so bad pointing downwards, the best is to hang the pieces. Nice vid!
Hey Dave. So I had you tune my suspension on my yzfr6 a month ago in Thousand Oaks. You mention that you were going to have another date that you will be back in March. I don’t see anything on your website yet. Because I do have another bike I wanted to get tuned. Any updates thanks 🙏
All my weekends in March are booked with events. The only possibility is a mad drive/dash to SoCal for Friday March 5th as I have to be in Fresno March 7th. Not sure how many riders could make it on a Friday. I guess I can post and see. Saturday is an event in NZ for 4 hours.
Too hard to really judge by watching on a phone. From a handful of years doing my own painting, I am siding with Moss. Sorry Williams.
The bike looks great. Very fun series.
How much where the screwdrivers..?? I wasn't aware of that. I want to get a set. Like you said.. correct tool for the job.
Dave Williams, editor, replying here. www.amazon.com/Hozan-JIS-4-JIS-Screwdriver-3rd/dp/B00A7WAHTU/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3V89ORX4QA8GD&dchild=1&keywords=ji+screwdriver+set&qid=1614499895&sprefix=jis+scre%2Caps%2C391&sr=8-5
Thank you Sir
If you strip screws because you are not using the correct screwdriver you would definitely loose time. Good work. Looking good
those screwdrivers will earn their money in no time mate. oh and left looks better from here than the right but i wouldnt judge on a rattle can contest lol....
cheers.
buy cans with a wide nozzle. we bought automotive paint and 3 coats was enough (actually, 2 was, if we didn't miss some spots: 1 "ghost/light coat, 1 full coat and then offcourse the clear)
I did spray paint job on my katana
Looked better than the OEM
Do you sand the primer coat first before you lay paint ?
100% every time with 800 grit so the paint has something to attach to. This requires a full wash, dry and clean prior to the first coat.
@@CatalystReactionSBW thanks!
I have seen (and done) spray can painting but never saw the paint applied in short bursts.
AHHahaahaha yeah exactly gotta shake the crap outta the can then let rip for a solid 20 seconds flat, wipe the nozzle, shake the crap outta it, repeat , hoping the cheap can doesnt fail on you in the process, oh boy, its not fun sometimes :)
Where can I get unpainted fairings like this for my bikeV
Editor DW found them on eBay, direct from China. Fairings from Hot Bodies, Armor Bodies, Sharkskinz etc all come with primer ready to paint.
I don't feel so terrible of the use of zip ties on my bodywork. If it's good enough for Dave, damn it it's good enough for me. Cheers!
If its good enough for mars rover, it's good enough for everybody!
thank ou
Dave did the left side (clutch lever side)
stick yo suspension. that painting killed me
$15 paint job for a track bike that's going to get some damage at some point. I think it's quite sufficient.
@@KR4Z3D666 Yeah but still... at 8:10 that nozzle is not for painting up and down. It is made to use side to side hence the thin but wide paint pattern
Just RATTLE CANNED my whole fairing kit for my '03 GSXR 600....
KIT CAME from EBAY. Best results I've found was to buy wide spray tips to get better coverage since most cans have a medium fan spray tips and sure as helps when you do the FINAL CLEARCOAT STEP.....
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Dave, call me next time for painting 👍🏻😁
Hi Stan. Noted and will do sir. Please send me contact information to dave@davemosstuning.com
I've always worked on my motercyle.
I see that miata back there! :)
Ha!! Stealth paint did not work..... :)
If you pay attention you can tell a difference in the quality of sheen and paint. Is it a huge difference no, williams did a good job. It’s mostly just fine details that result in a higher quality finish but again it’s mostly of us that are ocd with detail
That might be the thickest ghost coat I've ever seen lol
Must wear the cloth white gloves when handling Hozan or Wera.
Dave Moss did the side He is standing on. Which is the Left side of the bike.. No offense Dave Williams bud, but there's a huge difference in the quality if the look at the paint job bud. "Maybe at night in the rain in a dark light-less alley you " May Not ..?? " be able to see the difference but I'm still thinking we could". 😁 Seriously though I can clearly see the difference. However thats the difference between hurry up and paint it.. and the Do it Right the first time , put in the time its worth it. Even with a rattle can.. A paint job can look kickass . Great Work Guys. Bike is Awesome. Now is it for Sale...??
At 1080p it looks pretty good to me, but now the screen needs work to match the fairings. :>)
I always use dish liquid and was with soap and water before spraying
ok, I am always impressed by you when you set up your suspensions and reading the tires. BUT, leave painting to someone else 🙂 I was looking for how too videos since i am rebuilding my bike i basically totaled in August.
Hahahahaha! Oh I know what I cannot do and painting plus electrical is when I get my debit card out :). For this series though, the cheapest possible solution was the theme and the rule of thumb of 50 feet or 50mph was applied.
@@CatalystReactionSBW I find painting one of the most difficult things to do, and adjusting the suspension, where you shine like no other person I know. Everything else I can do. I just restored a 1973 Suzuki GT 185. Took me 8 times to paint the tank, even then it is not perfect.
@@norseman5041 I remember that bike from my teenage years - a real screamer. Congrats on the restoration. I have a 74 GT550 that needs very little work, but it needs some. Now I need to find time for it.....Painting is indeed and art and i tip my hat to the pro's who make it look so effortless and perfect!
@@CatalystReactionSBW I have been looking for a GT550, those are awesome. But, had to prioritize my EBR1190 that I took off roading. It ended up being a total rebuild, would probably been better off getting new bike. But hopefully I will have her completed before May. Here is the Suzuki after it was completed. I had to build a complete new electrical harness. Got some oversize brushes from Grainger that I machined down, to replace the original . th-cam.com/users/shortst_HK80HIOhA
Although it's a hummm good job, your spraying technique is something to be desired. Longer strokes would work better instead of short blasts. That's is what's causing your run of paint. Short blasts no no....
Left side from sitting better I’d say moss
What’s the pro and cons of paint vs vinyl wrap?
Vinyl you remove and replace. Quick, easy - simple. All you need is a heat gun. Paint - all the chores of sanding, prep, paint, sand, clear coat and buff.
Dave Williams, editor, replying here. I feel compelled to jump in here with some additional info. Rattle can spray paint is uncatalyzed, compared to proper automotive paint with hardener etc. For our epic hypersport tire test I rode the bike 8000 miles (13000 km) during Spring and early Summer in agricultural areas of CA. The bodywork became an insecticide of course. I found the bug juice was acidic enough to actually melt the rattle can spray paint finish and it became all mottled. Vinyl wrap suffers no such degradation. It holds up more like a proper automotive paint job. If I remember correctly, someone posted that you can find clear coat catalyzed rattle can spray paint these days. That would be the next test in the Spring of 2023
I really appreciate the thoughtful reply. I thought about rock chips and such being a problem, but never considered the bugs. I’m thinking if I were to purchase a newer bike, vinyl would be a good way to preserve the resale value. I think I might would use good auto paint on a restoration. I’ve got a 74 Kawasaki mca1 gas tank to do soon.
… also at work, we repainted a few enclosed trailers with single stage auto paint, then used a two stage clear coat. $15 harbor freight spray guns. Not too bad if you’re careful.
My vote is left side was done by MR. Moss.
Did you really only just get JIS screwdrivers? First thing people should buy after they get a bike, imo.
Where the J.I.S. really is essential is loosening a tight screw. I use Vessel.
Right side from the position of riding is not sanded. 😁
Hey Dave, how long did you allow it to dry on the last coat before you started to wet sand it? Looks good. Makes me want to paint my seat that has been waiting for paint over a year.
60-90 minutes as each coat was very light.
Mr. Moss did the left side, l’m sure the bike will make faster left turns.
Does this man ever LAUGH..?
Frequently each day.
@@CatalystReactionSBW Heh heh!... Good to know! Life is too brief to be dour. Thanks for the great videos... wish I was out west and you could unsnarl my SV1000 suspension weirdness.
@@888jackflash That's why I developed the Remote Tuning process to help riders anywhere in the World resolve handling woes.
@@CatalystReactionSBW I shall be contacting you to set up a time
Left side 🦅🇺🇸🦅🏍
Plastics?
...dont forget the tape.
The metal war birds are a little different.
JIS screw drivers do help especially on carb bowls with screws made of cheese….
Indeed they do and I have 2 sets now and on every bike will be changing Phillips to allen head screws.
@@CatalystReactionSBW good idea exactly what I do with mine 👍
DIY.... ;=D
Mr. Moss did the left side. I'm 99% on this one.
Chin bolt holes on Chinese fairings never line up easily if at all. Zip ties are the norm.
Dave's about attention to detail....Why I want him to set up my suspension.
You have forgotten a very real thing when you paint...
to avoid as much dust as possible. then you water the entire surface so that all over where you are standing so that the ground is wet and the dust does not fly around in the air when you drag these shoes off the tile when you give Klarlak ...
now you are probably using 2k clearcoat and not 1k
" Its a tough first world life"
Hahaha
Left side is better looking
Really absurd how much advertisement there is in all his videos. The first one was already after 2 min.....
Should have bought painted
100% correct lol
Why would you need to SCUFF plastic parts? It is not paint....if you scuff it you will see no change in color or paint coming off.....I'm not scuffing anything and I am sure it will be fine
Back the can up too close to the surface you are holding it
Ideal distance?
hope you cleaned em with degreaser before you started sanding them, or else u would just be sanding all that grease into the piece
Wash your plastik White Dishsoap
left side looks oem, right side was painted by a blind 5 year old
Stick to setting up suspensions......
Why?
Too close
Is that not the worst spray technique with a can you have ever seen
I think we are a contender, so please share your efforts :)
Terrible technique
Please share your examples for all of us to learn from.
Bruvahh i know this was posted 3 years ago, (thank you btw) but its 2024, even 2021 they had oscillating sanders homie🫡😂
True that, but we didn't in that garage at that time.
@@CatalystReactionSBW Very well, as I was. Thank you again! This is my now 4th set of fairings and have been doing them wrong ALL ALONG… smh 🤦🏼♂️
Im just here to tell you all the paint & prep mistakes you did, or didn't do......
🙄🥱🤷😁