Julian saved me thousands. I'm glad I found him on youtube. I had one dealer offer me a 6.0kw system with 15 panels for 32,240 using Rec Solar panels. I had another offer me a 7.65KW system with 17 panels for 29,452 These were JA Solar Panels then, I called Julian who set me up with someone and I got 18 Rec 400AA Pure Black panels a 7.2KW system for $23000, before rebate. Do your research.
Awesome Juluian thanks for the education! Trinity tried to push the tesla inverter. I told the (regional sales guy) those were garbage! The cash price was verbal higher than the competitors. He argued "That's not true, I have them on my house"! The big boss was disappointed because I canceled the Sunnova PPA and Trinity agreement. I got a better deal with a local NJ solar consultant that I could compare the quotes. (20) Rec panels with the Enphase IQMC inverters 10,500 out put kwh all permits, 25 year guaranty $25,956 before incentives.
This was the video I needed to see. Down in Puerto Rico companies are selling leases like hot cakes and no one thinks twice about what could gi wring down the road with the lease. Due to the electric grid being so bad, folks think that simply leasing is the solution. It is not. I almost made the same mistake but something didn't make sense to me, and now I am 100% convinced that leasing for me is absolutely not the solution! Thank you for making it crystal clear!
Julian, Match the micoinverters to the panels. In southern Nevada, we have a lot of sun. Solar company paired REC 420AA Pure R with enphase IQ8PLUS, it has a maximum of 290, what they've done is limit the production. Enphase has many other options that are rated at 330 to 385. My ratio today is 1.4, the suggested is 1.2, so I believe I've been miss sized. I have 18 panels and 18 IQ8PLUS maxed out at 5.2 kw. from 11am to 4pm. Today is second day running. Great videos. Thanks
This is yet another of Julian's educational and informative videos. Making me smarter to understand better for understanding this Solar biz much clearer and choosing right company. Thank you!
Thanks Julian! I wish i found your video a month ago. By now, doing research and comparing panels, invertors, insurances, financing i arrived to your first 4 tips in a hard way-). The last tip, about the stand-offs, was anew for me! I assumed if a company has >12 years labor warranty they won't put rubber stand-offs. But it sounded that better to check out anyway.
Yeah I'm only just started being aware of how these solar scams work cause I'm trying to buy a home and some have solars and new owner is to assume the lease. NGL, after looking at the contract (25 years is insane!!!) I think these homeowners are selling their homes to GET OUT of their solar contracts. Like that's the ONLY way they're able to get out of these contracts. These contracts are 6mnths to 5 years old. Still new.
Julian my neighbor just got solar in NJ they did lease skip the PPA They think it's the best thing ever!! They upgraded the service panel plus added a breaker circuit. The kicker is they opted for no battery backup. But their roof is fairly new.
Two things solar co guy tried to pull on me. Hide that the low interest rate was from buying down points and never mentions the escalating payments. And told me if I signed a “preliminary” agreement I could cancel anytime up until it was physically installed. But in Fine print,,,,only had three days to cancel.
Thanks Julian for this video. I am thinking of put solar on my roof and got couple proposals, one of it touting the PPA as no out of pocket money with all great features of solar but no info about what kind of materials they use. The worst part is my monthly payments to them will be higher than my local electric company's bill by 15%. Lol. Other sale rep just "run away" when I asked "what is my out the door cost?". If you click on the adv "no money out of pocket, even got it for free as government pay it for you" on youtube you get a bunch of calls. Thanks again for this information.
Great educational video Julian… Question… I live in southern Arizona in a 2214 sqft house. I have a 50 year tile roof that is approximately 22 years old. I had the black underpayment replaced with 40 lb. East exposure with no trees. I am charging a Tesla, running pool equipment & running the AC 24-7 during the summer. We have sun here 330 days a year 🥵. I have a company named net zero coming out for a estimate. I feel I am a good candidate for solar but just doing my homework here. Can I send you the estimate for your evaluation? Thanks for your time. 👍
we need more people like him in solar industry. honest and help people. Question: if i buy the solar system, does the contractor company will cover issue for panel and installation during the time i own the system?
It’ll depend on that specific warranty but if the installer goes out of business then they won’t be able to give you any support. Some manufacturers offer a labor warranty on their products which could cover the costs of another installer coming out to fix or replace a part
Appreciate the video just those watching the cost and payback periods range widely by state, like comparing florida vs California at 2 times electric cost. Florida payback period is almost 20 years with loan because kw is so cheap.
Great video! Thanks! Now that bank dealer fees are through the roof in 2023 what are your thoughts? Also what are your thoughts on the Sunnova Lease products? Thank you!
If the system/equipment is identical then there could be an advantage if it were significant cheaper. But, unless the tax credit is not something you’re eligible for it shouldn’t be cheaper. Also, you can’t add a battery to a PPA later so it’s not allowing you to expand or add to the system later if your needs change. I have several loans with small or no dealer fees.
@@Superiorsolarconsulting Thanks for your reply Julian! Much appreciated! And this would be if the price with the lease is lower and the equipment is identical provided the lease does not have an escalator and pretty much the customer never plans moves correct?
The payback part is a bit tricky in some jurisdictions. We can't disconnect from the grid and must then pay the service fee's. All this offsets is the actual consumption (1/3). Appreciate the video!
Hi Julian, I just watched your video on 5 tips on how to avoid getting ripped off, you mentioned that $3.50 to $4.00 per watt is a good price, I see this video is 4 years old, has the cost of solar increased much in the last couple of years, what would be a good price in 2023. BTW we live in Idaho, thanks Julian!
Thanks for your informative videos. I’ve already seen several .Do you have one that talks about electrical panel requirements? My uncle had a guy come to his house and was told he needs to upgrade his electrical panel first before he can install solar.
I was looking into it, I had a salesman over, he said he will email the contract, and he did with my name sign on it, it's not my signature but he sent me the email with my name on the contract
What is your advice for if and when you need to replace your roof? One of the solar companies explain that it would cost about $250 per panel to remove and replace the panels if I needed to have my roof replaced.
In some cases lease is a good option... When home owner cant Qualify for a loan to own. Also controlled billing.. This video needs a update prices has changed!
Definitely right. I will be working on a new video within the next couple months that discusses the same topic, but brings rates to the present values. The lease is definitely becoming a lot more attractive when looking at it on a payment basis, but there are still some caveat that I’m not loving about leases in PPA’s. Especially SunRun. I have seen sunnova’s PPA’s buyout to be very generous though.
Signing a solar lease was the stupidest thing I’ve done in my life. Had a lot of things going on in life at that time and I just didn’t give it much thought. Buying is much smarter. Leasing is clearly a scam.
Good question. Mainly cash price. But, certain financing options does have no or low fees with higher interest rates. Personally I think lower fees and higher rates are better for the customer. If you are looking for a quote. Call or text me 7604735878
How about pre-paid PPA? I was offered a great price on a prepaid PPA with escalator rate at 0.00%. Company takes incentives but that fine, it was about 6K cheaper than buying, i.e. 22K vs 15K. What are your thoughts please.
when you say price per watt. do you mean the whole install? The equipment, labor AND batteries etc? Because I was just given an estimated in AZ that looks like a 2100watt system at 20,000 omg!
It's summer in SolCal. The solar reps are coming out of the woodwork. I was contacted by Sunrun. The rep spent a 2hr sale pitch in our kitchen. The solar rep kept repeating to my wife and I there's no upfront costs, tax credit, etc. We don't qualify for tax credit and we don't want a 20 to 25 year loan. Rep stressed doing a PPA with Sunrun. Being 70+ ,owning my house and failing health: solar wasn't a right fit for us. That being said, nice video!
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Can you recommend a lawyer so I can sue SunRun? I believe my mother and father was duped and wasn't given all of the important information. They both passed within 2 years of the PPA. Unfortunately the Trust took over the PPA.
Broo, how can i get out of the contract with vivint solar? My wife got them not speaking/reading English and had her sign English contract if that helps in any way.
All solar system bids are too high. Solar companies generally ask about twice what the system is worth hopping you will be stupid enough to just buy it.
I live in Mass. and I want to go solar and I am considering using energypal to broker the best value and price. Do you provide this kind of service, since your knowledge of solar is very good. Thank You
Hi Julian. Thanks for your advice. I live in South Africa so we have a thing called loadshedding. Which means the grid is off from time to time for about 3 hours. I would like to go for a hybrid system to still be on the grid, reduce my bill cost but to have back up when loadshedding. I dont see any companies doing micro-inverters here. Will it be wise to instead of a 1 x 10kw inverter rather take 2 x 5kw inverter or even 3x 3kw inverters?
Inverters are cheaper, but you won't have the ability to monitor individual panels and all the panels hooked up to the one inverted as LIMITED to the output of the WEAKEST panel. Micro-inverts are put on each panel. Monitoring can be done on each panel. There is no weak panels effecting each other. Micro-inverts cost more, but are almost always better.
@@andrewdow1609 one thing a cant get info on. If you could maybe explain? If i use a hybrid inverter i can stay on the grid with the inverter using solar first and the only grid when exceeding solar output. But with micro inverters DC get turned to AC way up on the roof. How is that power regulated so to mediate the useage between solar and grid power? Is there a device i need to get for a hybrid micro inverter system?
@@SuperMeerkat My understanding of a Hybrid Inverter is that it does two things. It charges the batteries from your solar panels and it also runs your AC appliances, so it combines two functions in one box. I don't believe the hybrid tech has anything to do with weather your system is off-grid of on-grid. If you are on-grid....all of your power generated goes to the power company and you only use their power, the power company subtracts those two amounts (that's why you have two smart meters outside your house) and if you generated more than you use, you get money back (usually every 6mths or yearly). For an on-grid system, you would not need batteries really, unless you are planning some kind of emergency backup in the event that the power fails. Call your power company to verify that info.
I like your advice, although when comparing purchase vs leasing, there is also the consideration of risk. Beyond the warranty, the owner of the panel assumes risk of system failure, or underproduction. And that could be either the homeowner (in a purchase situation) or the system provider (in a lease situation). I just bought a system from Sunrun/Vivant, after getting quotes from three companies. Their financing was low enough to make the purchase practical in the long term, and cheaper than other financing options. I did pay $5 per watt, which I guess is high by your standards, but it was the lowest of three bids.
@@Superiorsolarconsulting 0 seconds ago IS THIS YOU th-cam.com/video/cotQgHhuPGY/w-d-xo.html 0 seconds ago taylor mccarthy WOW....60% OFFSET....MUST BE ALOT OF SHADE MAYBE WRONG DIRECTION TOO....36 PANELS...BIG COMMISSION 40% STILL WITH THE UTILITY COMPANY....YEARLY INCREASES FOR SURE..STILL ON THE GRID...1.8% RATE LOANPAL WITH ROOF $70K...PLUS...26% FED CREDIT...BACK TO LOANPAL TO KEEP THE RATE 1.8% $221 A MONTH..$19K FED CREDIT TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THIS LUCKY COUPLE $99K....$221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY $92 = $331 PLUS YEARY UTILITYINCREASE 5% YEARLY.....AFTER 60 DAYS LOAN PAYMENTS START $221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY....NO NET METER CREDITS FOR MONTHS....YOU TREATED THESE PEOPLE WELL....
Most of the people i know wanting solar dont want the money saving as much as they want the freedom from the grid. If a person goes solar they need to realize its expensive to buy your equipment and you should go completely off grid instead of the grid tied stuff. Buy it all outright dont ever lease equipment and buy good equipment to begin with... its a great hobby and cool way to live but dont give the solar contractor company your money
I have seen arbitration written into most contractor’s contracts. Keep in mind CA state law is heavily written in the consumer’s favor and so I do feel it’s necessary for contractors to take proper legal protection. I’ve worked with probably close to a thousand homeowners and some people decide to take aggressive action against you without you knowing on issues they didn’t even ask you about or give you an opportunity to fix. As a license number ages, and proves long term standing, protecting the asset is important. Anyways, that was probably a long answer. It’s important for the consumer to do proper research on who they’re hiring.
I appreciate all of the information as I am considering solar. However, I think your math needs some explanation. You say you can buy a system for $20,000 that will avoid paying $111,000 to the Electric Company over 25 years. Now a $20,000 system is something less than an 8kwh system. If 8kwh covers your electric usage, there is no way you are paying $111,000 in 25 years. In Florida, you would be looking at most $150 to $200 a month and that times 300 months (25 years) equals about $60,000. Or did I miss something.
You also have to include future increases. Yes right now you're paying $150-$200, but what will that same usage cost in 5, 10 or 15 years? $60,000 would be paying $200 over 30 years with the price never going up, unlikely.
@@kbob8424 This is a good point, but if you start adding intangibles such as future energy prices, you should also counter balance that with the future value of the money not spent on solar but invested in stocks. Bottom line is there exists good reasons to buy and not buy. Looking at accurate data for your area is more important than superlatives.
@@networkg - yes you are correct on money being spent in solar, but i never actually paid any money out of pocket. Yes my system costs $14,000 but i never had that money to begin with. I would never pay cash for a system. Like you said that money invested would make more than you're saving. But financed you just divert money you would normally give to the utility company to your solar, and if done correctly it'll be less money paying towards the solar than what it would have cost from there utility company.
0 seconds ago th-cam.com/video/cotQgHhuPGY/w-d-xo.html 0 seconds ago taylor mccarthy WOW....60% OFFSET....MUST BE ALOT OF SHADE MAYBE WRONG DIRECTION TOO....36 PANELS...BIG COMMISSION 40% STILL WITH THE UTILITY COMPANY....YEARLY INCREASES FOR SURE..STILL ON THE GRID...1.8% RATE LOANPAL WITH ROOF $70K...PLUS...26% FED CREDIT...BACK TO LOANPAL TO KEEP THE RATE 1.8% $221 A MONTH..$19K FED CREDIT TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THIS LUCKY COUPLE $99K....$221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY $92 = $331 PLUS YEARY UTILITYINCREASE 5% YEARLY.....AFTER 60 DAYS LOAN PAYMENTS START $221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY....NO NET METER CREDITS FOR MONTHS....YOU TREATED THESE PEOPLE WELL....
The only way I see solar makes sense is if you are young and expect to live 25 years more. If you are 68 years old like me then you will just be buying this expensive system that someone else will benefit from also my roof is about 21 years old so I would need to re-roof first or buy a GAF product or solar roof from Tesla which again someone else will benefit from
It depends on where you are. In some places the payback period can be as low as five years and you get your house value increase so if you move you reap the value
@@Superiorsolarconsulting Thats true and your videos are great very informative, I just wish these new options were available when I bought this house in 2004. Thanks for your hard work and effort you put into explaining so thoroughly
The 1st 5 min of this video is ad against leases/PPA. I've been looking at tons of options for solar and PPA is the best option for me. I cant afford a system cash and I'm not in my forever home. It is like switching to another power company but a much cheaper one. Id rather have the savings for the next 4 years than do nothing or have the debt affecting my DTI ratio. I'm a realtor so i also know most people move within 7-10yrs. Buying cash only makes sense if its your forever home and you dont have better investment options. Doing a loan makes sense if you don’t care about the debt or youre in youre forever home, you have no better use for the money and plan on paying it off fast. I looked at a fixed PPA (no escalator) but it was the same price as a loan with the high interest rate. As a realtor I've had buyers & sellers with leased solar and have not had any issues with it.
I work with tons of realtors and you saying you’ve had no issues with transferring PPA’s definitely puts you in the minority group. I hear mostly only issues or headaches. A savy buyer isn’t going to want to take over a debt that usually costs 3-4x what the system should cost. But with basically no inventory I understand a buyer simply accepting it since their desire to own the house is greater than their dislike of the PPA. I can see it both ways.
I apologize about the slow response. you're getting kW and kWh mixed up. You need a consultant who can calculate kWh productions in one of the many softwares that do this so we can figure out what you need ultimately
Turns out power optimizers are good in hotter markets. Micro inverters rated to 149 degrees, and optimizers rated for 185 degrees. Our roofs get up to 170 degrees in the summer where I am at. So I agree with everything you have ever posted but power optimizers Are better than micro inverters
@@Superiorsolarconsulting NO IT WONT! IT GETS HOTTER ON THE ROOF THAN IT DOES THE SIDE OF THE HOME OR THE GARAGE. AND YES I HAVE CHECKED WITH THE POWER COMPANY IN MY MARKET THE SYSTEMS IN THIS HOTT MARKET WITH MICRO INVERTERS ARE NOT PRODUCING AS MUCH IN THE SUMMER WHEN THEY SHOULD BE PRODUCING THE MOST. YOU DO NOT KNOW IT ALL. THANKS
Excessive Heat - Your roof absorbs LOTS of heat from the sun during the summer. Depending on the roofing material, an unshaded roof can surpass temperatures of 170 degrees F on a hot summer’s day! From a roofing company and my market is hotter. Straight up the roof gets hotter than what micro inverters are rated to effectively work at which is 149 F as rated by enphase Thanks sir!!!!!
On the price per watt, does that include installation and the incentives included. To calculate the price per watt do you do you calculate full retail or after the incentives.
@@joshuacuellar328 - what Google says and what is local are 2 different things. If you can find it at that rate then get it. I spoke to our business manager whose in charge of all areas to get an idea of market conditions. He told me the going rate is $4.10 - $4.50. Yeah in my area, Google says the same thing but here realistically you won't find it lower than $3.50. Even at that rate, you'll save money in year one, that I can show you.
Julian saved me thousands. I'm glad I found him on youtube. I had one dealer offer me a 6.0kw system with 15 panels for 32,240 using Rec Solar panels. I had another offer me a 7.65KW system with 17 panels for 29,452 These were JA Solar Panels then, I called Julian who set me up with someone and I got 18 Rec 400AA Pure Black panels a 7.2KW system for $23000, before rebate. Do your research.
Thank you so much for sharing!!
Awesome Juluian thanks for the education! Trinity tried to push the tesla inverter. I told the (regional sales guy) those were garbage! The cash price was verbal higher than the competitors.
He argued "That's not true, I have them on my house"! The big boss was disappointed because I canceled the Sunnova PPA and Trinity agreement. I got a better deal with a local NJ solar consultant that I could compare the quotes. (20) Rec panels with the Enphase IQMC inverters 10,500 out put kwh all permits, 25 year guaranty $25,956 before incentives.
This was the video I needed to see. Down in Puerto Rico companies are selling leases like hot cakes and no one thinks twice about what could gi wring down the road with the lease. Due to the electric grid being so bad, folks think that simply leasing is the solution. It is not. I almost made the same mistake but something didn't make sense to me, and now I am 100% convinced that leasing for me is absolutely not the solution! Thank you for making it crystal clear!
I should be able to sell in Puerto Rico within 12 months
@@Superiorsolarconsulting do you sell in South Florida?
@@CherishedChristianLife He sells in Florida, you just have to call or text him.
We paid a little over $4/watt for our system in Oregon last year. I *think* we got great equipment and insurance too.
Happy with it so far :)
Julian, Match the micoinverters to the panels. In southern Nevada, we have a lot of sun. Solar company paired REC 420AA Pure R with enphase IQ8PLUS, it has a maximum of 290, what they've done is limit the production. Enphase has many other options that are rated at 330 to 385. My ratio today is 1.4, the suggested is 1.2, so I believe I've been miss sized. I have 18 panels and 18 IQ8PLUS maxed out at 5.2 kw. from 11am to 4pm.
Today is second day running. Great videos. Thanks
Correct
Excellent! Really rings true for today! Who would have thought 4 years ago that leases and PPAs would be pushed so heavily. Thanks
It’s unfortunately leadership manipulating salespeople to push certain products
This is yet another of Julian's educational and informative videos. Making me smarter to understand better for understanding this Solar biz much clearer and choosing right company. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Julian! I wish i found your video a month ago. By now, doing research and comparing panels, invertors, insurances, financing i arrived to your first 4 tips in a hard way-). The last tip, about the stand-offs, was anew for me! I assumed if a company has >12 years labor warranty they won't put rubber stand-offs. But it sounded that better to check out anyway.
Yeah I'm only just started being aware of how these solar scams work cause I'm trying to buy a home and some have solars and new owner is to assume the lease. NGL, after looking at the contract (25 years is insane!!!) I think these homeowners are selling their homes to GET OUT of their solar contracts. Like that's the ONLY way they're able to get out of these contracts. These contracts are 6mnths to 5 years old. Still new.
Julian my neighbor just got solar in NJ they did lease skip the PPA They think it's the best thing ever!! They upgraded the service panel plus added a breaker circuit. The kicker is they opted for no battery backup. But their roof is fairly new.
Just wait till their costs go up due to cost of living increase, it's in the fine print. And if they decide to sell, good luck with that.
Two things solar co guy tried to pull on me. Hide that the low interest rate was from buying down points and never mentions the escalating payments. And told me if I signed a “preliminary” agreement I could cancel anytime up until it was physically installed. But in Fine print,,,,only had three days to cancel.
Thanks Julian for this video. I am thinking of put solar on my roof and got couple proposals, one of it touting the PPA as no out of pocket money with all great features of solar but no info about what kind of materials they use. The worst part is my monthly payments to them will be higher than my local electric company's bill by 15%. Lol. Other sale rep just "run away" when I asked "what is my out the door cost?". If you click on the adv "no money out of pocket, even got it for free as government pay it for you" on youtube you get a bunch of calls. Thanks again for this information.
I am more than happy to discuss in detail if you give me a call. 760-473-5878
Julian thanks for the information that was a very helpful for me in my investigation of solar
Thank you Oh Wise King Julian.
Great Advice! Totally agree regarding advice to buy the system. My math came to the same conclusion.
Thanks for the comment! Glad you found the video
Great educational video Julian… Question… I live in southern Arizona in a 2214 sqft house. I have a 50 year tile roof that is approximately 22 years old. I had the black underpayment replaced with 40 lb. East exposure with no trees. I am charging a Tesla, running pool equipment & running the AC 24-7 during the summer. We have sun here 330 days a year 🥵. I have a company named net zero coming out for a estimate. I feel I am a good candidate for solar but just doing my homework here. Can I send you the estimate for your evaluation?
Thanks for your time. 👍
Yes call/text me at 1 (760) 473-5878 or email me at Juliansolarguide@gmail.com
I service AZ as well so we can provide another proposal for you.
no one buying solar for the first time is an expert, these videos have been insanely helpful as i'm getting quotes and being pitched to
Appreciate the comment
great info!! seems like you're an industry insider
I just like to spread real info. Thanks!
Very well done, thank you.
we need more people like him in solar industry. honest and help people. Question: if i buy the solar system, does the contractor company will cover issue for panel and installation during the time i own the system?
It’ll depend on that specific warranty but if the installer goes out of business then they won’t be able to give you any support. Some manufacturers offer a labor warranty on their products which could cover the costs of another installer coming out to fix or replace a part
Appreciate the video just those watching the cost and payback periods range widely by state, like comparing florida vs California at 2 times electric cost. Florida payback period is almost 20 years with loan because kw is so cheap.
Julian I have requested your help in buying solar in Palm Springs California. Still nothing.
I’m sorry about that. Please call my assistant Cody at 619 916 8146 and her will get your proposal built asap. Thank you
We are talking to a consultant today. I have math and research to do. Thank you for this!
Great video! Thanks! Now that bank dealer fees are through the roof in 2023 what are your thoughts? Also what are your thoughts on the Sunnova Lease products? Thank you!
If the system/equipment is identical then there could be an advantage if it were significant cheaper. But, unless the tax credit is not something you’re eligible for it shouldn’t be cheaper. Also, you can’t add a battery to a PPA later so it’s not allowing you to expand or add to the system later if your needs change.
I have several loans with small or no dealer fees.
@@Superiorsolarconsulting Thanks for your reply Julian! Much appreciated! And this would be if the price with the lease is lower and the equipment is identical provided the lease does not have an escalator and pretty much the customer never plans moves correct?
This was a very helpful video. Thank you!
You are so helpful , and may I say so very handsome 😘
The payback part is a bit tricky in some jurisdictions. We can't disconnect from the grid and must then pay the service fee's. All this offsets is the actual consumption (1/3).
Appreciate the video!
He is so right about the inverter going out. Mine went dead one day and it just went out of warranty with the company. Sucks
what company? and what type of inverter?
Please fix your title from hoing to going. Would like to share with others. Great info!
Done. Thank you.
Wow, it was the great great tips. Thanks for sharing Julian!!!
Hi Julian, I just watched your video on 5 tips on how to avoid getting ripped off, you mentioned that $3.50 to $4.00 per watt is a good price, I see this video is 4 years old, has the cost of solar increased much in the last couple of years, what would be a good price in 2023. BTW we live in Idaho, thanks Julian!
Yes it has fluctuated throughout the years but I would say between $3-4 is where you want to be for a rooftop install before extras like batteries.
Should I invest in a Tesla rood top in florida
They are very expensive for what you get. It’s medicore solar tech. I work in Florida. Give me a call 760-473-5878
Excellent video thank you. From Boston , M A
I personally would NEVER recommend a string inverter system. Go Micro, my favorites are Enphase.
Thanks for your informative videos. I’ve already seen several .Do you have one that talks about electrical panel requirements? My uncle had a guy come to his house and was told he needs to upgrade his electrical panel first before he can install solar.
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Good job and info thanks
No problem!
What do you think of Tesla solar ?
I was looking into it, I had a salesman over, he said he will email the contract, and he did with my name sign on it, it's not my signature but he sent me the email with my name on the contract
What is your advice for if and when you need to replace your roof? One of the solar companies explain that it would cost about $250 per panel to remove and replace the panels if I needed to have my roof replaced.
My roof of thumb is if you need to do your new roof within 7-10 years anyways, then it’s probably best to get it done with the solar
Great tips! Didnt even know they made rubber standoffs. Got 9.2w enphase system at $2.75/w last year down in florida. Been running great!
that's a great deal, from which company?
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Very helpful tips.
Thank Julian.
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In some cases lease is a good option... When home owner cant Qualify for a loan to own. Also controlled billing.. This video needs a update prices has changed!
Definitely right. I will be working on a new video within the next couple months that discusses the same topic, but brings rates to the present values. The lease is definitely becoming a lot more attractive when looking at it on a payment basis, but there are still some caveat that I’m not loving about leases in PPA’s. Especially SunRun. I have seen sunnova’s PPA’s buyout to be very generous though.
Signing a solar lease was the stupidest thing I’ve done in my life. Had a lot of things going on in life at that time and I just didn’t give it much thought. Buying is much smarter. Leasing is clearly a scam.
If I was talking to a solar sales person I would ask if they do ppas, if they say yes I say bye
Thanks Julian nice honest information!
Thank you for this!
Hi julian, what do you think of sunrun company here in nevada are they a good company, do they provide with the best products, what are your thoughts.
I am not a huge fan of SunRun in general. Text me. I have a last Vega’s based consultant and we can offer something much better. 760-473-5878
@@Superiorsolarconsulting so which company do you work with here in las vegas
@@eduardog8056we have a few contractor connections actually. Give us a call and we’ll go through all the info with you
Thanks for the timely information. Much appreciated.
Thanks for the honesty. When calculating the cost per watt should I use gross cost or cost after federal credit?
Gross
When you mention the cost per watt, are you talking about the cash price or financing price?
Good question. Mainly cash price. But, certain financing options does have no or low fees with higher interest rates. Personally I think lower fees and higher rates are better for the customer. If you are looking for a quote. Call or text me 7604735878
what are your thoughts on this solar surge company?
Joe really knows his stuff
Actually you also included that you might be leaving your house maybe after 5years or 7 years
How about pre-paid PPA? I was offered a great price on a prepaid PPA with escalator rate at 0.00%. Company takes incentives but that fine, it was about 6K cheaper than buying, i.e. 22K vs 15K. What are your thoughts please.
Was the purchase 22k net or gross? Also, was the equipment the same?
Yo Man......... you da'man !!!
This really helped.
Give me a call if you’d like a consultation. 760-473-5878
Fantastic tips from an insider. Thank you. 🙂
Thank you so much for sharing ❤️
Of course
Hey Julian, which is a better solar panel? U series by SunPOwer or Q Cells?
It really depends upon what you are looking to get out of your panel
I'm into purchasing a system now... Your videos are great.
I send you an email to get some help here.
If my assistant hasn’t already reached out. Text me at 1 (760) 473-5878
That $4/watt that you quoted as the average price for a system in San Diego, is that for a system with micro-inverters or string?
Micros
I’m in Houston Tx, how much you think it should cost and what company to go for?
Text vme. I service Texas. 760 473-5878
Hi there so what is it that you do? Do you recommend any installer ? Thank you
when you say price per watt. do you mean the whole install? The equipment, labor AND batteries etc? Because I was just given an estimated in AZ that looks like a 2100watt system at 20,000 omg!
That would be for solar only. No battery. But, out the door for everything
That is waaayy overpriced. What part in AZ are you in? Did you ever get solar?
@@kbob8424 No I haven't gotten it yet. I feel like so many companies are trying to rip people off. Im in Southern AZ south of Tucson. Sonoita area.
It's summer in SolCal. The solar reps are coming out of the woodwork.
I was contacted by Sunrun. The rep spent a 2hr sale pitch in our kitchen.
The solar rep kept repeating to my wife and I there's no upfront costs, tax credit, etc.
We don't qualify for tax credit and we don't want a 20 to 25 year loan.
Rep stressed doing a PPA with Sunrun. Being 70+ ,owning my house
and failing health: solar wasn't a right fit for us.
That being said, nice video!
Solar isn't for everyone and I personally don't like PPA.
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40% STILL WITH THE UTILITY COMPANY....YEARLY INCREASES FOR SURE..STILL ON THE GRID...1.8% RATE LOANPAL WITH ROOF $70K...PLUS...26% FED CREDIT...BACK TO LOANPAL TO KEEP THE RATE 1.8% $221 A MONTH..$19K FED CREDIT TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THIS LUCKY COUPLE $99K....$221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY $92 = $331 PLUS YEARY UTILITYINCREASE 5% YEARLY.....AFTER 60 DAYS LOAN PAYMENTS START $221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY....NO NET METER
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Can you recommend a lawyer so I can sue SunRun? I believe my mother and father was duped and wasn't given all of the important information. They both passed within 2 years of the PPA. Unfortunately the Trust took over the PPA.
I’m so sorry to hear that. Honestly I don’t know one that is a subject matter
Do you need any help with roofing?
Where do you service?
And you do solar in Massachusetts?
What standoffs/mounting hardware do you recommend? Have you had any experience with quickbolt?
I was going to ask the same thing.
Broo, how can i get out of the contract with vivint solar? My wife got them not speaking/reading English and had her sign English contract if that helps in any way.
There’s a document she needs to sign saying she understands the language the contract is written in. That may be bogus
Thank You!!
Of course. If you’d like a proposal let me know. 760-473-5878
Thanks for good info
Great info. Thanks.
All solar system bids are too high. Solar companies generally ask about twice what the system is worth hopping you will be stupid enough to just buy it.
Not true at all my dude
GREAT VIDEO!!! THANKS FOR THE INFO
Julian do you help in Florida? If not who I can reach out to someone like you
I think he does, you need to call him or text him, or leave a quote in his website
I live in Mass. and I want to go solar and I am considering using energypal to broker the best value and price. Do you provide this kind of service, since your knowledge of solar is very good. Thank You
Hi Julian. Thanks for your advice. I live in South Africa so we have a thing called loadshedding. Which means the grid is off from time to time for about 3 hours. I would like to go for a hybrid system to still be on the grid, reduce my bill cost but to have back up when loadshedding. I dont see any companies doing micro-inverters here. Will it be wise to instead of a 1 x 10kw inverter rather take 2 x 5kw inverter or even 3x 3kw inverters?
Inverters are cheaper, but you won't have the ability to monitor individual panels and all the panels hooked up to the one inverted as LIMITED to the output of the WEAKEST panel.
Micro-inverts are put on each panel. Monitoring can be done on each panel. There is no weak panels effecting each other. Micro-inverts cost more, but are almost always better.
@@andrewdow1609 one thing a cant get info on. If you could maybe explain? If i use a hybrid inverter i can stay on the grid with the inverter using solar first and the only grid when exceeding solar output. But with micro inverters DC get turned to AC way up on the roof. How is that power regulated so to mediate the useage between solar and grid power? Is there a device i need to get for a hybrid micro inverter system?
@@SuperMeerkat My understanding of a Hybrid Inverter is that it does two things. It charges the batteries from your solar panels and it also runs your AC appliances, so it combines two functions in one box. I don't believe the hybrid tech has anything to do with weather your system is off-grid of on-grid. If you are on-grid....all of your power generated goes to the power company and you only use their power, the power company subtracts those two amounts (that's why you have two smart meters outside your house) and if you generated more than you use, you get money back (usually every 6mths or yearly). For an on-grid system, you would not need batteries really, unless you are planning some kind of emergency backup in the event that the power fails. Call your power company to verify that info.
Thanks Julian
What’s the best quality Solar panels?
Probably REC/Panasonic
I need a good contractor in Ohio for a ground installation in a field. Know anyone reputable?
I like your advice, although when comparing purchase vs leasing, there is also the consideration of risk. Beyond the warranty, the owner of the panel assumes risk of system failure, or underproduction. And that could be either the homeowner (in a purchase situation) or the system provider (in a lease situation).
I just bought a system from Sunrun/Vivant, after getting quotes from three companies. Their financing was low enough to make the purchase practical in the long term, and cheaper than other financing options. I did pay $5 per watt, which I guess is high by your standards, but it was the lowest of three bids.
Ahh man. Cancel if it's not too late. That's not a deal at all
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taylor mccarthy WOW....60% OFFSET....MUST BE ALOT OF SHADE MAYBE WRONG DIRECTION TOO....36 PANELS...BIG COMMISSION
40% STILL WITH THE UTILITY COMPANY....YEARLY INCREASES FOR SURE..STILL ON THE GRID...1.8% RATE LOANPAL WITH ROOF $70K...PLUS...26% FED CREDIT...BACK TO LOANPAL TO KEEP THE RATE 1.8% $221 A MONTH..$19K FED CREDIT TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THIS LUCKY COUPLE $99K....$221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY $92 = $331 PLUS YEARY UTILITYINCREASE 5% YEARLY.....AFTER 60 DAYS LOAN PAYMENTS START $221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY....NO NET METER
CREDITS FOR MONTHS....YOU TREATED THESE PEOPLE WELL....
Most of the people i know wanting solar dont want the money saving as much as they want the freedom from the grid. If a person goes solar they need to realize its expensive to buy your equipment and you should go completely off grid instead of the grid tied stuff. Buy it all outright dont ever lease equipment and buy good equipment to begin with... its a great hobby and cool way to live but dont give the solar contractor company your money
There are tons of reasons somebody would want to go solar and simply despising the utility company is a big one
I’m about to buy a house here in north Florida, could you recommend a company I should go with? I want a solar system asap after I move in
Yes I can help you out. Give me a call or text me 7604735878
You can't sue these solar companies. It's on the contract that you can't sue. 😂
Major red flag.
I have seen arbitration written into most contractor’s contracts. Keep in mind CA state law is heavily written in the consumer’s favor and so I do feel it’s necessary for contractors to take proper legal protection. I’ve worked with probably close to a thousand homeowners and some people decide to take aggressive action against you without you knowing on issues they didn’t even ask you about or give you an opportunity to fix. As a license number ages, and proves long term standing, protecting the asset is important. Anyways, that was probably a long answer. It’s important for the consumer to do proper research on who they’re hiring.
I appreciate all of the information as I am considering solar. However, I think your math needs some explanation. You say you can buy a system for $20,000 that will avoid paying $111,000 to the Electric Company over 25 years. Now a $20,000 system is something less than an 8kwh system. If 8kwh covers your electric usage, there is no way you are paying $111,000 in 25 years. In Florida, you would be looking at most $150 to $200 a month and that times 300 months (25 years) equals about $60,000. Or did I miss something.
He's from Socal so its a lot different then Florida rates.
You also have to include future increases. Yes right now you're paying $150-$200, but what will that same usage cost in 5, 10 or 15 years? $60,000 would be paying $200 over 30 years with the price never going up, unlikely.
@@kbob8424 This is a good point, but if you start adding intangibles such as future energy prices, you should also counter balance that with the future value of the money not spent on solar but invested in stocks. Bottom line is there exists good reasons to buy and not buy. Looking at accurate data for your area is more important than superlatives.
@@networkg - yes you are correct on money being spent in solar, but i never actually paid any money out of pocket. Yes my system costs $14,000 but i never had that money to begin with. I would never pay cash for a system. Like you said that money invested would make more than you're saving. But financed you just divert money you would normally give to the utility company to your solar, and if done correctly it'll be less money paying towards the solar than what it would have cost from there utility company.
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taylor mccarthy WOW....60% OFFSET....MUST BE ALOT OF SHADE MAYBE WRONG DIRECTION TOO....36 PANELS...BIG COMMISSION
40% STILL WITH THE UTILITY COMPANY....YEARLY INCREASES FOR SURE..STILL ON THE GRID...1.8% RATE LOANPAL WITH ROOF $70K...PLUS...26% FED CREDIT...BACK TO LOANPAL TO KEEP THE RATE 1.8% $221 A MONTH..$19K FED CREDIT TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THIS LUCKY COUPLE $99K....$221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY $92 = $331 PLUS YEARY UTILITYINCREASE 5% YEARLY.....AFTER 60 DAYS LOAN PAYMENTS START $221 PLUS 40% ON UTILITY....NO NET METER
CREDITS FOR MONTHS....YOU TREATED THESE PEOPLE WELL....
The only way I see solar makes sense is if you are young and expect to live 25 years more. If you are 68 years old like me then you will just be buying this expensive system that someone else will benefit from also my roof is about 21 years old so I would need to re-roof first or buy a GAF product or solar roof from Tesla which again someone else will benefit from
It depends on where you are. In some places the payback period can be as low as five years and you get your house value increase so if you move you reap the value
@@Superiorsolarconsulting Thats true and your videos are great very informative, I just wish these new options were available when I bought this house in 2004. Thanks for your hard work and effort you put into explaining so thoroughly
The solar company im working with says if I finance they will not cover any problems with the system.
That makes no sense. Where we you located? Maybe I can help you out
@@Superiorsolarconsulting Massachusetts, Brockton
The 1st 5 min of this video is ad against leases/PPA. I've been looking at tons of options for solar and PPA is the best option for me. I cant afford a system cash and I'm not in my forever home.
It is like switching to another power company but a much cheaper one. Id rather have the savings for the next 4 years than do nothing or have the debt affecting my DTI ratio.
I'm a realtor so i also know most people move within 7-10yrs. Buying cash only makes sense if its your forever home and you dont have better investment options.
Doing a loan makes sense if you don’t care about the debt or youre in youre forever home, you have no better use for the money and plan on paying it off fast.
I looked at a fixed PPA (no escalator) but it was the same price as a loan with the high interest rate.
As a realtor I've had buyers & sellers with leased solar and have not had any issues with it.
I work with tons of realtors and you saying you’ve had no issues with transferring PPA’s definitely puts you in the minority group. I hear mostly only issues or headaches. A savy buyer isn’t going to want to take over a debt that usually costs 3-4x what the system should cost. But with basically no inventory I understand a buyer simply accepting it since their desire to own the house is greater than their dislike of the PPA. I can see it both ways.
The cheapest in my area NC Raleigh Durham is $4.3/watt.. What to do?
I cover NC and can make you a way better deal than that. give me a call at (760) 473-5878
just one question, if my annual power consumption is 8kwh does that mean i need a 8kwh solar panel kit?
probably a little more bc the wearing of the systems over time.
I apologize about the slow response. you're getting kW and kWh mixed up. You need a consultant who can calculate kWh productions in one of the many softwares that do this so we can figure out what you need ultimately
Do you service san bernardino area?
Yes we do. Hopefully you’ve pulled the trigger already. Sorry for my slow response
Do you have this information in Spanish?
I have a Spanish speaker on my team who can help you out if you text me. 760 473 5878
Turns out power optimizers are good in hotter markets. Micro inverters rated to 149 degrees, and optimizers rated for 185 degrees. Our roofs get up to 170 degrees in the summer where I am at. So I agree with everything you have ever posted but power optimizers Are better than micro inverters
I’ve never seen a micro fail due to heat but I have seen optimizers fail in general. The heat will affect the centralized inverter even more
@@Superiorsolarconsulting NO IT WONT! IT GETS HOTTER ON THE ROOF THAN IT DOES THE SIDE OF THE HOME OR THE GARAGE. AND YES I HAVE CHECKED WITH THE POWER COMPANY IN MY MARKET THE SYSTEMS IN THIS HOTT MARKET WITH MICRO INVERTERS ARE NOT PRODUCING AS MUCH IN THE SUMMER WHEN THEY SHOULD BE PRODUCING THE MOST. YOU DO NOT KNOW IT ALL. THANKS
Excessive Heat - Your roof absorbs LOTS of heat from the sun during the summer. Depending on the roofing material, an unshaded roof can surpass temperatures of 170 degrees F on a hot summer’s day!
From a roofing company and my market is hotter.
Straight up the roof gets hotter than what micro inverters are rated to effectively work at which is 149 F as rated by enphase
Thanks sir!!!!!
@@brockallstate are you yelling? lol
imagine having to live with this guy... or work with him
Thank you ever so much!
On the price per watt, does that include installation and the incentives included. To calculate the price per watt do you do you calculate full retail or after the incentives.
Price per watt is total out the door price. In our area though, it's not that low but still great. Where are you located?
@@kbob8424 McAllen Texas im being calculated $5 per watt which is double the market value in the area
@@joshuacuellar328 - what rates are you seeing locally $2.50? I'm in El Paso TX a bit north of you 😁
@@kbob8424 according to google. 2.69
@@joshuacuellar328 - what Google says and what is local are 2 different things. If you can find it at that rate then get it. I spoke to our business manager whose in charge of all areas to get an idea of market conditions. He told me the going rate is $4.10 - $4.50. Yeah in my area, Google says the same thing but here realistically you won't find it lower than $3.50. Even at that rate, you'll save money in year one, that I can show you.
1 point of failure = a catastrophic failure.
Agreed
Unless you use little to no power, solar for retail customers is a gimmick. The juice is just not worth the squeeze.
Depends where you are