Good to see you are still at it Mr fox, I been following your work since the m18x R2. I still have my m18x, my 675m's finally went out (01/2020) Lookin to finally upgrade to the 980m. I will follow your process.
Awesome. Thank you for your support. Sorry to hear your 675M cards failed. You got a lot of use out of them. You might be able to go with an MSI 1070. I think there are some examples in the threads at NBR Forum where some have done that. This might work better than 980M.
I still have my M18x R2 running and now it’s got a 1070 thanks to the helpful guys at NBR. Be careful with trying dual 980M’s as you will probably run into some throttling issues. Go for a single 980M, 1060 or 1070.
Great content. I've just started building my soft tubing loop (1x 360, 1x 280 rads, 8700k delid + Aorus Master, B-Die @ 4266 16-16-16, 1080ti) and I really have a passion for computing. It's pretty obvious you do as well. Can't wait to see what content you can pump out.
@@MrFoxRox Yeah, pretty new. And pricey. But I love them. The new ones actually are nicer but older ones will do until next build. Also Lian Li uses software that doesn't have to run in the background which is awesome! Not sure if new ones don't need to run in the background but in terms of cable management, nothing beats them.
Appreciate you brother fox, I learned so much from you by following your threads and communicating over different forums throughout the years. Thank-you for repairing my Alienware 18 laptop and for sharing so much technical knowledge with all of us. You are a blessing; hope you have a wonderful week.
MrFoxRox I have not used any of my PC’s for over 10 hrs in total the last 12+ months. I use my mobile devices to get 90% of what I need to do, done. Working an average of 60+ hrs per week, gym 6 days a week 2 hrs a day and church on Sundays. Not complaining, there are seasons for everything I’m grateful to be as busy as I am as it keeps me productive. I do miss the leisure of forums, and gaming but I’m sure that season will come back at some point as well. Trying to concentrate on finding a prospect (very marriage mindful) but we’ll see what God does and what His will is. :) Keep your head up brother fox! I’ll be sure to reach out when I do my next desktop build, I trust no one with computer advice as much as I do you.
Awesome video and setup brother. As an owner of two of these (360 and 420) MO-RA3's, I absolutely love them. An advantage of these versus other radiator solutions is that you can run the loop with the fans operating at low speeds or not at all if you run the CPU at stock (all depending on your ambient temps - that 75 degrees of yours scares me - my ambient is 30 to 40 degrees). That is a huge plus for people who complain about noise but then again, I run my fans at full speed no matter what. Hahaha.
Thank you, Brother Frank. I can certainly see why you're a fan of these rads. They're pretty amazing. The ambient temps here scare me, too. And, this is the 'coldest' time of year. Summer ambient temps are beyond ludicrous.
@@frostybe3r I know.....when I wrote 75 degrees, that means 75 Fahrenheit. Otherwise, I would have stated 23C. Where I overclock, my ambient is 30 to 40 degrees.
@@frostybe3r LOL. Good catch. We are too used to speaking in terms of Celsius when it comes to PC temps that it just flows that way. I think Frank was referring to ambient room temperatures rather than the CPU thermals. Where I live it seldom gets down to 40°F even in the winter, so there is no way I can get the inside of my house that cool.
What is your water temp with 2 mora? I have 1 mora 420 with 4 noctua 200 fans on and 3 360 inside my case and my water temp at load is 30c-31c. Ambient temp is 24c. I dont know if its good or bad.
I own a MORA-3 since 2018. In my case everything fits very well. There was no need to drill anything. I am only using nine fans (from Noctua) in push configuration, a DIY fabric cover to keep the dust outside and a Noctua Na-FC1 to be able to control the fan speed. Yes, true. it was a pain in the a ... to connect the fans to finally one connector. I partial soldered them together. But finally I am super happy with my MORA-3!
@@MrFoxRox I use just some strong magnets to keep the fabric in place. Take a look here: live.staticflickr.com/65535/50641869951_803383ab21_h.jpg live.staticflickr.com/65535/50641869871_dddc9e2f9b_k.jpg I mounted it as shown in the photos to clean it easily (with a vacuum cleaner) and before the sucked in air is pushed through the radiator. ... Yes, its ugly but works fine for me - since two years.
@@martindarlington3862 it wasn't really more expensive than two high quality 360mm radiators and it is the equivalent of three. You use half the fittings and less tubing, so it is actually more affordable in that respect.
Yes no doubt that would be true. The problem is that I live in a super dusty area and the radiator fins and fans would be constantly getting filthy and hard to keep clean. That would end up causing similar decreases in thermal effectiveness. So kind of six and one half dozen of the other. Having the filter makes it easier to maintain even though it has a small effect on the airflow .
I may at some point. I'd love to do that. Maybe when I have more discretionary cash to spend on it. It's the logical next step. It is kind of a pain in the butt though, because of all the work involved (teardown, prep, clean-up, and reassembly).
@@B3n85_ it is a TV cabinet that a neighbor was going to throw away and I got it for free. I am not sure what brand it is. It is extremely well made and super heavy. I have not seen one like it for sale. The closest thing I can find to it searching online that looks similar to it is this product. www.bisonoffice.com/indo-tv-stand-with-double-glass-doors-and-casters-espresso/FL-800EX/p/
@@MrFoxRox Thank you so much for your response! I have been trying to figure out what to use as a wetbench base, and had been considering a tool bench with drawers? Also while I have your attention, I came across your channel a few days ago and love your setup, I actually have a mora3 420 being shipped to me as we speak. I am just starting to get into memory overclocking and cant decide between a Kingpin board or an Apex? Also would you mind making a video walking us thought a typical memory overclock session? There was another guy on TH-cam that was very gracious to a "Mr.Fox on the EVGA forums" who I cant imagine was anyone else buy you? It would be a great help to many of us if you would make a video pointing out some things that you know beginners need to know but don't?
This is really quiet and benefits from using low RPM fans. I use the XSPC 1650 RPM fans. They're around 65 CFM, good static pressure and are not loud even running full blast. They move a lot of air. And, they are about $5 each from Performance-PCS.com so you can't beat them. I'd say they are my favorite fans.
Hello thank you for the compliment. That is a Praxis WetBench made by PrimoChill. They are available in a variety of different colors. I now have a flat top version rather than the one with the angled motherboard tray. They make wings that mount on the sides to attach radiators and lots of little accessories as well. You can check out all the options on their website at primochill.com if you're interested. Take care.
Been thinking of buying one of these for my Threadripper multi GPU build. What quick disconnects do you recommend? Want to be able to easily disconnect from my PC if I need to move things around or for maintenance. Do you have valves on either side of the quick disconnect? Don't want to spill fluid everywhere. Thanks!!!
Hi. Yes it's a great radiator and I'm very happy with it. I would say that it is probably my best PC component investment second only to the water chiller. I use Koolance QD3 quick connects and install a ball valve on the female half. It works out extra-nicely if you buy the female half with G1/4 threads rather than a tubing compression fitting. The male half has never stuck open on me before. Sometimes the female half will stick, but having the ball valve attached to it makes that a non-issue. A paper towel is more than adequate to catch a minor drip with the ball valve shut.
Thank you. I used some ASUS Rampage VI DIMM.2 brackets that were made to attach fans to cool NVMe drives and attached some sheets of plastic to them that slide in between the memory modules.
@@MrFoxRox - yeah brother just came back from one of my friends 43 year's birthday celebration and looking at this awesome video I have an itch :) now in my head lot's of wheels are spinning :) - buy radiator / buy fans / buy blocks (cpu + 2xgpu) and buy new GPU, maybe I will talk to Rageset for one of his Kingpins + the block of the other one :Dor maybe he will upgrade me the 2080ti FTW3 :) .. omg so many thoughts :) ... I am hoping to find the beast inland US :)
@@rodarkonero I am sure he will give you a great deal on a GPU, and it will be like brand new. If you buy a CPU water block, go with the Optimus Signature V2. That's what I am using now and it is excellent. optimuspc.com/products/signature-cpu-block-intel. (You've probably already see that in the forum, but I am sharing that for those who have not.) Optimus is supposed to be offering GPU blocks soon.
well you got to figure you already had dual 360's so you basically just added another 360. so like you said you already had really good cooling. wasn't like you were coming from a dinky air cooler or anything. but like your setup. nice and clean looking.
Mr.fox I have a question sir. I have a GTX 980 in my MSI Vortex and it gives me only 15k on 3d Mark11 graphics score and I saw your score on your alienkiller which was above 20k. I would like to ask you if you could take a look on my vbios and maybe mod it for me ? I would really appreciate it. regards
@@ranforandi678 - Hello. I would love to, but I do not have any experience doing that. I have always used a vBIOS mod that was edited by an expert with firmware mods. Have you already checked with Svet in the MSI Forum? He has a lot of experience with that. You can message him or post a thread requesting one here: forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=51.0
@@MrFoxRox holy I always thought that you can do it xD I haven't ask svet till now but I will. I was wondering why prema, svl7 and john95 weren't active in TI for more then 4 years now. 2013 was such a nice time to upgrade your notebook I really miss this time.
@@ranforandi678 - I wish I knew how, but it is a closely guarded skill because some dishonest people abuse privileges and steal the work of others. So, I have not had an opportunity to learn how. I can use the simplified tools that everyone has access to (like the Kepler and Maxwell BIOS Tweaker, and Svet's vBIOS Tuner, but they don't produce the same level of performance increase as the master modders like Prema that know what code to tweak and delete using hex editing tools. That is where the real performance gains are to be had.
This could actually work for me. i live in dubai, so much heat and dust. i have a closed loop with 2x360 rads and the cpu(10900k) and gpu(3090) wont get below 60c/140f. Now the summer is starting, it will be hotter.
Best rads you can buy.. Im running a 420 and a 360 on a 13900k @5.9all p 4.7 e and about to put the 4090fe under water. Yes on the fan cables!! Its a bitch
Yes we have pets and we live in the Arizona desert so the amount of dirt and dust in the air is ungodly. So that's really necessary. Otherwise the radiator gets filthy
Here are some still images: imgur.com/a/SYNN8FN
Awesome video - appreciate it. No flashy, just quality content
I appreciate that! Glad you liked it. I appreciate having you as a channel subscriber.
Informative video as usual, always learning something new from you. Have fun with this monster .
Thanks, bro. Glad you enjoyed it..
"hope everyone's 2020 is off to a good start..." ...just a couple weeks later...
Good to see you are still at it Mr fox, I been following your work since the m18x R2. I still have my m18x, my 675m's finally went out (01/2020) Lookin to finally upgrade to the 980m. I will follow your process.
Awesome. Thank you for your support. Sorry to hear your 675M cards failed. You got a lot of use out of them. You might be able to go with an MSI 1070. I think there are some examples in the threads at NBR Forum where some have done that. This might work better than 980M.
I still have my M18x R2 running and now it’s got a 1070 thanks to the helpful guys at NBR. Be careful with trying dual 980M’s as you will probably run into some throttling issues. Go for a single 980M, 1060 or 1070.
Great content. I've just started building my soft tubing loop (1x 360, 1x 280 rads, 8700k delid + Aorus Master, B-Die @ 4266 16-16-16, 1080ti) and I really have a passion for computing. It's pretty obvious you do as well. Can't wait to see what content you can pump out.
Your rig is absolutely wicked!!
Very cool. Thanks. But wonder if Lian Li Unifans would have solved your cable problem.
I'm sure that would have been good. I had never heard of them at the time I'm built it.
@@MrFoxRox Yeah, pretty new. And pricey. But I love them. The new ones actually are nicer but older ones will do until next build. Also Lian Li uses software that doesn't have to run in the background which is awesome! Not sure if new ones don't need to run in the background but in terms of cable management, nothing beats them.
I love these off-the-cuff builds! Good job! I was getting sick of the 109,000 Lian Li builds lol
Thak you, Mel.
Appreciate you brother fox, I learned so much from you by following your threads and communicating over different forums throughout the years. Thank-you for repairing my Alienware 18 laptop and for sharing so much technical knowledge with all of us. You are a blessing; hope you have a wonderful week.
Hey stranger. Long time no talk. Hope all is well with you. Thank you for the kind words. The appreciation means a lot.
MrFoxRox I have not used any of my PC’s for over 10 hrs in total the last 12+ months. I use my mobile devices to get 90% of what I need to do, done. Working an average of 60+ hrs per week, gym 6 days a week 2 hrs a day and church on Sundays. Not complaining, there are seasons for everything I’m grateful to be as busy as I am as it keeps me productive. I do miss the leisure of forums, and gaming but I’m sure that season will come back at some point as well. Trying to concentrate on finding a prospect (very marriage mindful) but we’ll see what God does and what His will is. :) Keep your head up brother fox! I’ll be sure to reach out when I do my next desktop build, I trust no one with computer advice as much as I do you.
@@TechWiz1983 - He has the perfect companion for you. There is a season for that as well, as it will happen in the fullness of time. Take care, bro.
Awesome video and setup brother. As an owner of two of these (360 and 420) MO-RA3's, I absolutely love them. An advantage of these versus other radiator solutions is that you can run the loop with the fans operating at low speeds or not at all if you run the CPU at stock (all depending on your ambient temps - that 75 degrees of yours scares me - my ambient is 30 to 40 degrees). That is a huge plus for people who complain about noise but then again, I run my fans at full speed no matter what. Hahaha.
Thank you, Brother Frank. I can certainly see why you're a fan of these rads. They're pretty amazing. The ambient temps here scare me, too. And, this is the 'coldest' time of year. Summer ambient temps are beyond ludicrous.
75f not 75c.
@@frostybe3r I know.....when I wrote 75 degrees, that means 75 Fahrenheit. Otherwise, I would have stated 23C. Where I overclock, my ambient is 30 to 40 degrees.
@@sliceofmymind But yeah I'm gonna switch my chiller out for a MO-RA.
@@frostybe3r LOL. Good catch. We are too used to speaking in terms of Celsius when it comes to PC temps that it just flows that way. I think Frank was referring to ambient room temperatures rather than the CPU thermals. Where I live it seldom gets down to 40°F even in the winter, so there is no way I can get the inside of my house that cool.
I have 2 mo-ra3 420s with 16 200mm fans running at 350 rpm and love how quiet and cool it is
Sounds great. These MO-RA3 radiators are awesome.
What is your water temp with 2 mora? I have 1 mora 420 with 4 noctua 200 fans on and 3 360 inside my case and my water temp at load is 30c-31c. Ambient temp is 24c. I dont know if its good or bad.
@@THANHNGUYEN-uq8zk sorry i couldnt tell you the water temp, dont have that tracked
Thank you for a informative video!
You're welcome. I am glad that you enjoyed it and found it informative, and I appreciate knowing you did.
heyyy mr fox, i still remember you from notebook forum. i ended up making my desktop and my liquid cooling loop thanks to you
Hey bro. Awesome. Do you have any pics or vids or your.setup?
@@MrFoxRox I will make a video of it. I have one but is not too good
th-cam.com/video/FAFjdw9owLs/w-d-xo.html
ibb.co/305NB6q I am using an aquacomputer kryos next water block. The 3900x is sanded to mirror finish with 3000 grid and liquid metal.
th-cam.com/video/ukq9sMuPRGU/w-d-xo.html
I own a MORA-3 since 2018. In my case everything fits very well. There was no need to drill anything.
I am only using nine fans (from Noctua) in push configuration, a DIY fabric cover to keep the dust outside and a Noctua Na-FC1 to be able to control the fan speed.
Yes, true. it was a pain in the a ... to connect the fans to finally one connector.
I partial soldered them together.
But finally I am super happy with my MORA-3!
Awesome, thank you for commenting. I would love to see what your fabric filter looks like if you can post a link to a photo.
@@MrFoxRox
I use just some strong magnets to keep the fabric in place. Take a look here:
live.staticflickr.com/65535/50641869951_803383ab21_h.jpg
live.staticflickr.com/65535/50641869871_dddc9e2f9b_k.jpg
I mounted it as shown in the photos to clean it easily (with a vacuum cleaner) and before the sucked in air is pushed through the radiator. ...
Yes, its ugly but works fine for me - since two years.
@@v.gedace1519 great, thank you. Good idea.
great to see, really nice quality ! many thanks for sharing.
You're welcome. Yes, quality getting harder to find these days. Junk is plentiful and the new normal.
@@MrFoxRox i concour! i bet it was expensive, but price being relative to quality by the looks of it, im sure it was worth it.
@@martindarlington3862 it wasn't really more expensive than two high quality 360mm radiators and it is the equivalent of three. You use half the fittings and less tubing, so it is actually more affordable in that respect.
@@MrFoxRox its a beauty, and well worth it, cool. cheers.
Did you ordered it from Watercool's website?
Very useful video. Information is presented structurally and informatively. Thnx a lot!
Thank you for letting me know. I really appreciate it.
Probably get better temps if your intake fans weren't choked by that really fine filter you have in front of them.
Yes no doubt that would be true. The problem is that I live in a super dusty area and the radiator fins and fans would be constantly getting filthy and hard to keep clean. That would end up causing similar decreases in thermal effectiveness. So kind of six and one half dozen of the other. Having the filter makes it easier to maintain even though it has a small effect on the airflow .
Thanks for the video! I really want one of these bad boys!
Nice. Thanks for this experiment.
I'm surprised you haven't started just benching on LN2 by this point.
I may at some point. I'd love to do that. Maybe when I have more discretionary cash to spend on it. It's the logical next step. It is kind of a pain in the butt though, because of all the work involved (teardown, prep, clean-up, and reassembly).
Hey Mr. Fox, what is that case/bench table that you’re using? Great work btw.
Thank you. That is a PrimoChill Praxis WetBench. www.primochill.com/products/praxis-wetbench
@@MrFoxRox Thank you so much!
@@MrFoxRox What is the actual table the wet bench is on?
@@B3n85_ it is a TV cabinet that a neighbor was going to throw away and I got it for free. I am not sure what brand it is. It is extremely well made and super heavy. I have not seen one like it for sale. The closest thing I can find to it searching online that looks similar to it is this product. www.bisonoffice.com/indo-tv-stand-with-double-glass-doors-and-casters-espresso/FL-800EX/p/
@@MrFoxRox Thank you so much for your response! I have been trying to figure out what to use as a wetbench base, and had been considering a tool bench with drawers? Also while I have your attention, I came across your channel a few days ago and love your setup, I actually have a mora3 420 being shipped to me as we speak. I am just starting to get into memory overclocking and cant decide between a Kingpin board or an Apex? Also would you mind making a video walking us thought a typical memory overclock session? There was another guy on TH-cam that was very gracious to a "Mr.Fox on the EVGA forums" who I cant imagine was anyone else buy you? It would be a great help to many of us if you would make a video pointing out some things that you know beginners need to know but don't?
Debating switching my Eiszeit 2000 out with a MO-RA3 420 Pro, chiller is abit loud at 65dbA and doesn't benefit my processor massively.
This is really quiet and benefits from using low RPM fans. I use the XSPC 1650 RPM fans. They're around 65 CFM, good static pressure and are not loud even running full blast. They move a lot of air. And, they are about $5 each from Performance-PCS.com so you can't beat them. I'd say they are my favorite fans.
@@MrFoxRox Tried ordering one but Watercool.de customer support is beyond trash.
awesome build! if you don`t mind, what case (test bench) is that? i love how it looks!
Hello thank you for the compliment. That is a Praxis WetBench made by PrimoChill. They are available in a variety of different colors. I now have a flat top version rather than the one with the angled motherboard tray. They make wings that mount on the sides to attach radiators and lots of little accessories as well. You can check out all the options on their website at primochill.com if you're interested. Take care.
@@MrFoxRox thank you!
How did you clean it before you hooked it up for the first time? Or did you not have to clean it?
Hi. I flushed it out with water in the kitchen sink and then blew out the tap water with an air compressor.
Been thinking of buying one of these for my Threadripper multi GPU build. What quick disconnects do you recommend? Want to be able to easily disconnect from my PC if I need to move things around or for maintenance. Do you have valves on either side of the quick disconnect? Don't want to spill fluid everywhere. Thanks!!!
Hi. Yes it's a great radiator and I'm very happy with it. I would say that it is probably my best PC component investment second only to the water chiller. I use Koolance QD3 quick connects and install a ball valve on the female half. It works out extra-nicely if you buy the female half with G1/4 threads rather than a tubing compression fitting. The male half has never stuck open on me before. Sometimes the female half will stick, but having the ball valve attached to it makes that a non-issue. A paper towel is more than adequate to catch a minor drip with the ball valve shut.
Hi MFoxRox How did you mount the fans on the RAM?Great setup😀
Thank you. I used some ASUS Rampage VI DIMM.2 brackets that were made to attach fans to cool NVMe drives and attached some sheets of plastic to them that slide in between the memory modules.
What a monster ... I love it.
Thanks, bro. Hope you're having a great weekend.
@@MrFoxRox - yeah brother just came back from one of my friends 43 year's birthday celebration and looking at this awesome video I have an itch :) now in my head lot's of wheels are spinning :) - buy radiator / buy fans / buy blocks (cpu + 2xgpu) and buy new GPU, maybe I will talk to Rageset for one of his Kingpins + the block of the other one :Dor maybe he will upgrade me the 2080ti FTW3 :) .. omg so many thoughts :) ... I am hoping to find the beast inland US :)
@@rodarkonero I am sure he will give you a great deal on a GPU, and it will be like brand new. If you buy a CPU water block, go with the Optimus Signature V2. That's what I am using now and it is excellent. optimuspc.com/products/signature-cpu-block-intel. (You've probably already see that in the forum, but I am sharing that for those who have not.) Optimus is supposed to be offering GPU blocks soon.
What do you use your rig for?
I use it for everything, including work. But, it was built with overclocked benching in mind. That's my hobby and my passion.
well you got to figure you already had dual 360's so you basically just added another 360. so like you said you already had really good cooling. wasn't like you were coming from a dinky air cooler or anything. but like your setup. nice and clean looking.
Mr.fox I have a question sir.
I have a GTX 980 in my MSI Vortex and it gives me only 15k on 3d Mark11 graphics score and I saw your score on your alienkiller which was above 20k.
I would like to ask you if you could take a look on my vbios and maybe mod it for me ? I would really appreciate it.
regards
What is your question, bro?
@@MrFoxRox can you maybe mod my vbios so I can get higher clocks from my GTX 980 it I build into a msi vortex g65
@@ranforandi678 - Hello. I would love to, but I do not have any experience doing that. I have always used a vBIOS mod that was edited by an expert with firmware mods. Have you already checked with Svet in the MSI Forum? He has a lot of experience with that. You can message him or post a thread requesting one here: forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=51.0
@@MrFoxRox holy I always thought that you can do it xD
I haven't ask svet till now but I will.
I was wondering why prema, svl7 and john95 weren't active in TI for more then 4 years now.
2013 was such a nice time to upgrade your notebook I really miss this time.
@@ranforandi678 - I wish I knew how, but it is a closely guarded skill because some dishonest people abuse privileges and steal the work of others. So, I have not had an opportunity to learn how. I can use the simplified tools that everyone has access to (like the Kepler and Maxwell BIOS Tweaker, and Svet's vBIOS Tuner, but they don't produce the same level of performance increase as the master modders like Prema that know what code to tweak and delete using hex editing tools. That is where the real performance gains are to be had.
Almost looks like half the fins are bent. Can't believe you received it that way.
This could actually work for me. i live in dubai, so much heat and dust.
i have a closed loop with 2x360 rads and the cpu(10900k) and gpu(3090) wont get below 60c/140f. Now the summer is starting, it will be hotter.
Yes, living in the Phoenix area I can totally relate to the extreme heat, insane dust and absurd amount of static electricity.
I also use the praxis wet bench haha but red accents.
omg i want this mo ra3
5:10
Wondered if anyone else noticed lol
@@jtech011ify His setup is exhaust out the rear.
so fucking funny lol I was like no way
I'm dead lmao
Oh I'm glad to actually see that others did noticed as well lol
Best rads you can buy..
Im running a 420 and a 360 on a 13900k @5.9all p 4.7 e and about to put the 4090fe under water. Yes on the fan cables!! Its a bitch
Hey what was that at 5:11
LOL. I don't know. It sounds kind of like a fart, doesn't it?
That's not the Pro but still nice vid...
для RTX4090 пойдёт
Yes, you would have no clearance issues.
Да, у вас не было бы проблем с оформлением.
Holy...
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Holy ! ... how to max out the fans on a watercool system.
Already 7 fans !!!! on Board and RAM. +18fans on MORA.
Yes we have pets and we live in the Arizona desert so the amount of dirt and dust in the air is ungodly. So that's really necessary. Otherwise the radiator gets filthy
@@MrFoxRox ok ok - i understand. Special case :/
@@TechTalkTobi yes that's right I would not use those filters otherwise. Even the best ones restrict airflow, otherwise they can't work as a filter.