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INFJ vs INFP - which one are you?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.พ. 2020
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This is another interesting dilemma people face, despite having no cognitive functions in common these types (INFJs and INFPs) nonetheless get confused A LOT.
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INFPs can feel lost and out of place
INFJs can feel distant and detached
So which one is more like you?
Me:"......yes"
Same
Both.. yes, both.. and it's not good.
I'm an INFP, but my P part is almost at the middle.... so I have a maelstrom of emotions at the same time but am so detached from them, that I have trouble identifying and sharing them. Yikes!
Completely both, though haha.
yes..
I think both Infp and infj can seem like procrastinators at times when having to make a decision, but Infp wants to protect the diversity of possibilities whereas infj wants to make a decision but has analysis paralysis.
Yeah but I feel like the INFJ can sleep on it and decide within 24 hours. Don't you think?
Also my INFJ friend doesn't procrastinate making a decision if pressed on the issue. He gave some advice, which I really like. He said, "If I have to decide right now and I am not sure, then the answer is no." I love that!
Xavier Guillaume That’s a good advice! I actually have no idea, that’s why I made the comment XD . It probably sounds stupid, but I wanted to test it in that way. I personally struggle with some decisions for a very long time because I tend to overanalyse the possible outcomes (mostly starting from the worst case but thinking my way towards the best case). I usually get a bit paranoid about leaving out aspects. But maybe it’s not that Infp-vs-infj-specific.
exactly!! in many ways i relate more to infj (but i'm never sure, i keep watching these videos) and for example when i'm trying to choose between to career paths i really want to make that decision but i'm afraid i'll make the bad decision so i tend to procrastinate and decide later when i can be sure, but i know i can't hold on to both. even though i can seem indecisive and to carry on more ideas at once, i don't feel like infp qualities are true for me and i think i have a very strong Ni... i don't know if this makes sense for anyone
@@jamieblaire Try CS Joseph's Typegrid. You can get a free copy from his website Csjoseph.life, and he also made a video comparing these two types.
@@TheBittenBullet omg thank you!! i'll definitely check because this whole "am i and infp or infj" dilemma is driving me crazy lol
I still don't know if I'm an INFP or an INFJ because I'm a complete mix of both. But it's still a great video, continue like this.
Yeah im too very much a mix of both when he said about INFP i was like yeah its true and when heard about the INFJ ,it was also true
I think the probably explanation for all this might be my messed up childhood whn i was forced to suppress some part of me ,i can strongly relate with Fi and Ni, will one be frm shadow 🤔🤔🤔
IKR
@H J
That is a brilliant way of looking at it!
I'm also INFJ, and I definitely agree that it's difficult to be in a ambivalent state. I've never thought I was _both_ but I wasn't sure which one I was specifically. ^^
@H J
Yeah, the INFP and INFJ can seem similar, especially if you're of the idea that the Subconcious top functions of INFP are Fe and Ni (since they have Fi Dom and Ne Aux), but they're still introverted.
I've thought about making my own version of this kind of video, going into the differences between specifically the Aux and Dom of both types, in hopes of helping people realize that the types Are different.
I thought about using your idea about Ne in that video; I hope that's okay. :)
Omg same I'm definitely a mix of both too maybe there should be a new subcategory named INF(PJ)s lol
That explains it. I’m an INFJP
Right?!?!?!😂
XDDD
@@_cas.0423 this is actually quite funny XD I have no idea what he just said jk but honestly not sure about this explanation I do feel it the INFJP now XD
Yes, infᶈ seems about right :D
As an INFJ, when we finally do express our opinion after taking in all the information, it comes like letting the lion out of its cage. Then when we are finished, we put the lion back and become our friendly cooperative selves once again.
oh god, yes...
omg this is the exact situation i experienced a few weeks ago
Bro yes i once flipped out on my friend for the first time in 4 years for like 10 mins (which is a lot for infj yes) and they had an existential crisis
I feel like i hurt them and now i feel like a dark empath when im not one
AH
Hahaha....yes.
Must I express myself to balance this scenario? Yes. Ah alright here it goes. *effortless lion*
Alright now we'll move on, shall we? Good day.
Agreed. Sometimes it can take years of cautious observation and analysis. Then boom. No one sees it coming.
any INFJs out there listening to the INFP parts and saying to themselves “oh, I should try that...” ?
*as we cringe hearing our parts*
I STILL DON’T KNOW
Each time I watch a video, read comments, or take a test, the answer changes...😣
@@lilgorgo I am in the same situation. XD
I was really having trouble between these two, but I think I finally settled on ESTJ!
Haha! Well played ~ Nathan
@@lovewho I'm an INFJ and I live with an ISTJ who at times behaves like an ESTJ. He's still alive......
@@yvonnecampbell7036 😂 hilarious! I feel you smh. Same here. I'm still trying to figure me out, pretty sure I'm an infj. And I'm trying to figure him out, sometimes I think he's an istj but he does have his ESTJ moments smh. I'm so confused lol!
@@mikr2066 XD.
HAHAHAHA
When he talked about the listening part, he said that an INFJ would have a conversation with someone they completely disagree with and this person would leave thinking that the INFJ is actually on the same page as them.. Well that is actually so true. not that we can't persuade them or anything but mostly it's bc i (at least for me) truly don't care lol like i have a totally clear, net opinion and you also do. Which is completely fine. I'll talk to u about my point of view, try to make it clear and all but that's it. Won't even put a tiny bit of effort on making you claim what i believe or think especially if i see that the person is so opinionated like yes i will try maaaybeeee if i really care about u but bc i'm most of the time lazy, i'll just listen up and smile
Very well explained. Also I'm glad you found it accurate! ~ Nathan
Same! Completely agree.
Yup! Then I know I’m INFJ just no need to insist there’s no definite answer to things more interesting to learn the logic of thinking behind people
@Sofía Roura no it's not that way. The thing is that we kinda exagerate taking others prespectives into account if that makes sense. It happens soo many times that i defend someone's opinion that is completely against my pov or my thoughts, to the point where people would think that it's what i believe in, myself. It's hard to explain if you're an FI user but yeah we are kinda excessively open to what others have to say . we do get into arguments and all, concerning certain fundemental subjects... we actually love doing that, but it doesn't happen unless we're pretty sure that it's not a waste of time and that we can make a change. INFJs are more of listeners, but once they decide to speak up, it doesn't happen for nothing.
I hope i made it clear enough now haha.
Agree, unless it’s one of the major values. Then I just outright say no. But that almost never happens. Do you also feel that as you get to know someone better it’s easier to disagree?
Me: *confused whether I'm an INFP or INFJ*
Also Me: Ah yes. Existential crisis my old friend.
Your profile pic and name is perfect for this comment
totally same :0
Me too!?!
U all are INFPs, mystery solved❤
Please make more INFP stuff!! I love your content and am a selfish INFP who wants to learn more about myself 🤣🤣 thank you so much Nathan for your insights. They’re extremely valuable and I truly appreciate them
This is great to hear! ~ Nathan
I relate on a spiritual level.
Thank you, I didn’t want to have to ask. I feel like an ass because whenever I find a video like this if it doesn’t at least use INFPs as a point of comparison I lose interest real quick.
Tyler Fender I think, especially for us INFPs, that’s very very normal 😂 I’m totally the same!
Fae H same!! 😊
Your video was absolutely spot on until you said that INFPs care mostly only about values while INFJs care about ideas / the concepts behind human relationships. I think this is not a valid distinction between the two.
Being interested in ideas and understanding underlying concepts is a trait shared by all Ns, and NFs are particularly interested in concepts relating to people / society / relationships / emotions. Most INFPs I know (including yours truly), are passionate about understanding humans and their relationships through concepts and ideas, which is why a ton of INFPs study psychology / go into counselling - just look at the amount of INFPs who are into mbti! In conversations, you'll also find that INFPs are willing to dive deep in such topics; their understanding of human emotion gives them a knack for it.
Similarly, a lot of INFJs have a moralistic streak to them (they care about the concepts of right & wrong and have well-developed moral principles / understanding of justice). INFJs usually have high standards for themselves and aspire to live up to their values; they aspire to be good, principled people. In general, morality, justice, principles, values are more correlated with J types (since they're more likely to have strong confidence / belief in their own ideas) rather than P types, who are inherently more flexible, unconventional, "live and let live" (and therefore dislike being judgemental, just like they dislike being judged for being who they are). If we look at type 1 enneagram, it's mostly IxxJs.
Another point: again, INFPs are not very dogmatic in judgements (P is indecisive and open-minded as you said) and a lot of IxxPs are non-confrontational to a fault -- unlike Js, who have a stronger sense of boundaries and of what's socially acceptable or not. If an INFJ finds what you said to be unacceptable, they will make it known, although they're less likely to get "triggered" by what the person is saying and therefore are good at keeping calm and constructively debating the person with well-made points. I (INFP) personally prefer to express skepticism at the conclusion the person came to, and try to deconstruct their argument with them (NPs are exploratory and open-minded after all) rather than react like "that's wrong" or "that's such a horrible thing to say" -- similarly to INTPs actually.
Nonetheless, your video was great. I think you're right about INFJs being good at playing the social game -- coming across as well-adjusted, fitting in effortlessly in environments that they easily understand the rules of, and yet being not understood since they keep their complexity mostly to themselves -- while INFPs want to convey who they are as individuals but are easily MISunderstood and don't know how to fit in society, or where they are going in life (I think all NPs are unconventional / a little weird in that sense).
Your descriptions of Ne and Ni are also great in my opinion. I don't think it's two different kinds of intuition -- rather, it's two different attitudes towards intuitive information (exploratory / flexible vs decisive / forward-moving)
Love this comment. This is actually extremely useful. Thank you! ~ Nathan
I agree with both you. I think Love Who was more high level and covering/exploring several different observations sort like a looking from the outside view point. I feel your point is diving deeper in to the fundamental workings of cognitive functions.
All NF's are conceptual and people focused less logical. FeSe is more in the moment harmony and being grounded, where as FiSi is dive deep into the inner works of emotions and empathizing through this understanding. NiTi is long term vision and logical objective on how things can play out, where as NeTe is much more open minded and coming to efficient logical decisions that can cover all these possibilities effectively.
@Juliane Desfayes @Faceless
Well, now I’m confused again.
Imho, i think this is just matter of perspective, both Nathan and Juliane infos are true but again, it matters of with whom that specific interaction actually is done. If it were done with the conflicted people (significant others) of the NFP or NFJ, Nathan explaination is actually spot on “somehow“, due to dislikeness of disharmonys, NFJ sometimes would adjust (even perforcedfully) but not merely forgetting about their “minimum standard of tolerance others idea” too , well hmm idealist, (related to this value and ideas) and vice versa for Juliane explaination. Well both of you guys really insightful, thanks.
You cleared up a lot of my "but that doesn't fit" thanks you!
I feel like I’ve changed from INFP to INFJ over the years, but I’m still stuck with a mixture of the two.
I can definitely relate to that. There's a time where you gotta change to Infj to move forward
Me too
Same
same
SAME oh my goodness I thought I was going crazy
Here's what I feel like I am :
- I feel more distant and detached : INFJ
- I feel both misunderstood & not understood.. : Both INFJ & INFP
- Emotions. I agree with both for the first half. The other half, I'm more open minded : INFP
- I'm more Introverted Intuitive : INFJ
- None of my friends really know anything about MBTI. So from how I acted, I'm more like an ENFP?.. Therefore : INFP
My conclusion : INFP = 3, INFJ = 3
I'm still 50/50 lol.
You're probably unhealthy INFJ
@@morbidgirl6808 Most likely.
Time to have another existential crisis again.
This is literally me. I think we might feel misunderstood because we tend to overthink, which leads to stress and then being misunderstood. Open minded because we confuse our own emotions with others and always seeing their view points. And behaving like ENFP because we want to please others. I think I’m more likely infj
@@khadijaahmed5817 I agree.
1- INFP
2- INFP
3- INFP
4- INFP
5- INFP/INFJ
6- INFP
But isn't the INFP going to want to understand the other person's opinion and point of view too? Ne is always looking at all the different possibilities, so I feel like INFP's are always able to see the others point of view. And Fi is always trying to put themselves in the other person's shoes to see how we would feel if we were them.
Agreed
Same but about 90% of the time. Most of the time I can get down with others ideas but... sometimes they’re just wrong.
Most of the time its both. I can see and understand their point of view but i can still disagree with it and if i feel comfortable, will make that clear
Certainly we can, but not before our inner value system feels shaken (we may overreact, that's up to every individual) from cognitive dissonance. You see, having Fi as dominant means that hearing a value/idea that doesn't fit with our system means a lot of anxiety and conflict. The action of being on somebody else's shoes and understanding their perspective (aka Ne) comes afterwards
"And Fi is always trying to put themselves in the other person's shoes"
Not always, but if they Want to. INFjs don't "have a choice", if so to say.
I mean I already knew I'm an INFP, but this just hit it home.
Good! ~ Nathan
Your jacket looks so warm an snazzy ☺️
They are, maybe we should do some merch for them! ~ Nathan
This video clears up a lot of things, but what about INFJs vs INTJs?
They're a lot more similar, especially if matured, and can be indistinguishable at times (especially males)...
I'll be doing a video comparing these two types as well ~ Nathan
En Igma they should not be considering one is particularly good socially: infj Fe 2nd and the other not: intj Fe polr. And infj is polr Te making them not good at laying out an organized way of reaching goals, while intj is te 2nd making them excellent at planning steps needed to reach their vision and goals.
Also very interested in your comparison of INTJ and INFJ!!
@@winterbird4447 I don't know how to say this politely but, your description is quite narrow minded. Infj's are not as good (but most especially, not determined) as intj's in planning. That doesn't mean they can not lay out plans and follow them. It simply means that the average intj is probably more determined than the average infj. Infj's can also be extremely awkward. I repeat, extremely awkward! When they realize that most people won't get them, they choose to be indifferent and disinterested in social situations. I believe they might later regret it though.
INTJ here, I've had a close INFJ friend for several years and we both noticed we're extremely similar with few but major differences. The main thing was that she is totally ok with putting others first and filling up a supportive role in her loved ones' lives instead of going out and fighting for goals of her own, which to me would be absolute death. Her Ni+Fe gave me an impression of "let's figure out how these people work and see how I can help", while my Ni+Te is all "let's figure out what I want and how to get it and get to work". As you can imagine we bonded mostly over Ni and interpreting things very similarly. And yes, a very sick sense of humour.
Never met a male INFJ yet, though.
"Soup of feelings" cracked me. It's true. I'm always confused what should I fill for my emotion pixel diary each night. Since I had too many strong emotions in a day. At the end, I can only keep filling "Fine" all of time 😂😂
Yea that phrase is very appropriate for INFPs ~ Nathan
It's the reason I enjoy putting my playlist on shuffle.
It's not only because of "general similarities" that these two types are confused for one another! *4w5* is _the_ most common enneagram type for both INFP and INFJ. That's a pretty specific similarity.
Type 4 INFPs, with their classic sense of feeling different from everyone else (which I might argue is a natural INxx trait highetened by the 4), can mistype as INFJ, read that INFJs are the "rarest type," and easily be lulled into the false epiphany that the statistical rarity of the INFJ is the reason why they feel so different from everyone around them.
There's also a strange phenomenon whereby Ne + Fi can be mistaken for Ni + Fe. For one, both Ni and Fi can feel difficult to express in words (though for different reasons). But moreover, the combination of Fi+Ne creates multiple perspectives (in the realm of feelings/values) to consider, which can be mistaken for Fe considering the interests of multiple people, especially in scenarios where a social dilemma must be resolved by a single choice. The INFP will struggle to make up his or her mind while weighing all the different choices and how they affect others. For the person who doesn't have Fe, it's easy to see how they could think this could be how Fe makes judgements that have a net-positive effect on group dynamics and harmony. Likewise, I imagine that the Ni-user who also uses Fe might envision future outcomes for different people in their lives and mistake this consideration of possibilities as Ne.
Lastly, from a socionics perspective, INFJs have demonstrative Fi. So while they will still value Fe over Fi, they do not ignore their own Fi the way ENFJs do, and can be juuuust enough in touch with their own feelings, values, preferences, and boundaries to make you second-guess whether they're using Fi. Especially in moments where a display of Fi is socially expected of them.
In reality though, INFJs somehow always seem like _"old souls,"_ while INFPs seem more like _eternal-children._ At least that's been my observation, and those archetypes can also be helpful in making the differentiation.
Have adults been taken aback by the strangely prophetic utterances from your mouth since you were a wee child? and the jaded and cynical, fatalistic beliefs you were determined to believe from a young age? Have you ever been told you're something like "10 going on 30?"...
OR
Are people delighted and amused by the childlike sense of wonder and love of whimsy you've managed to keep in touch with well into adulthood? Do people ever tell you that you "never grew up," you're too sensitive, you're acting like a selfish, petulant child, or that you're lost in la-la-land? Do people feel like they need to protect you? Are people drawn to your sweet innocence? Are you always in need of rescuing?
Heather Bryant Smart comment, Heather.
Heather Bryant ,I always read your comments and let me tell you every thing you said is on point but the last one about infjs being old souls versus infps being eternal children is almost too accurate.
I learn a lot from you so thank you.
@heatherbryant - thank you for the thought-provoking post. 1) can you recommend a test - preferably free and online? (Yes I know, "google it" but as you know, some are 'better'..etc) 2) I came across Jungian archetypes/MBTI perhaps 40yr ago. I grew sceptical as it became commercialised and (over)used in recruitment. It seemed to reinforce typecasting. Now, I am more openminded and think it has a more general value especially in self-analysis. Any thoughts/references on that? 3) I seem to identify quite strongly with both INFP and INFJ qualities (as described) but also notice that I used to be a lot more extraverted and able to make small talk etc. I think 'personalities' can change over time. What do you think? Thanks!
martycrow u might be an ENFP
Yes, I've seen a thing online saying INFP's are 60 going on 6, and INFJ's are 90 - old souls.
This is a very accurate and well presented video. It's probably the best "INFP vs INFJ" comparison and explanation video I've seen. Thankyou, Ti-Ne Nathan!
Glad you enjoyed it! ~ Nathan
"INFJ vs INFP - which one are you" ...Well, neither one of them really
Such an INFJ thing to say, lol
@@empiricus2211 Why would an INFJ say they're neither?
P O W E R - R E D - B U L L Because INFJ’s are chameleons that can adapt according to different circumstances and so often lose track of what their authentic preferences are. I guess I should have said ‘emotionally and intellectually immature INFJ’s’. Mature INFJ’s are aware of their chameleon skills while also being rooted in their autentic dispositions. While immature INFJ’s often get stuck in loops and feel empty because of how out of touch they are with who they actually are.
@@empiricus2211 I agree INFJ's are cameleons. However, I do not have the impression they actually deny they're INFJ's at all. I find that INFJ's are looking to find out who they are and like to hear from others who they actually are. Denying being a being something like a "type" is more an Fi thing than anything.
@Vegan Dancer Not that often lately..how about you? A lot lately has been livevideos and drama..and that gets boring. I liked his newer videos about socionics though! He is going to debate jack from the socionics channel about now I guess?
My whole life I never felt normal. Trying my best to fit in, but never feeling like I belong. Feeling disconnected from reality, yet so Intune with it. Not understanding my own emotions, but feeling others emotions so clearly. I thought I was struggling with mental illness like depersonalization, but recently discovered from a test that im an INFJ- T. I started reading articles and watching videos like this, and almost started to cry. For the first time in my life I have felt understood, and now understand myself so much better. I have no doubt that I also struggle with depression, but now I understand that depression and this personality can have a compounding affect on ones life.
I feel you. It sucks to not be able to feel you belong. I am an INFP-T and never felt so understood until getting into this stuff. Hope you're in a better place now!
same I thought I was some sort of alien, I remember that one time when I was young I asked my mom if I was a human like anyone else and shes like Of course you are! what are you thinking?
I've done a lot of study on the differences between the two, and though I would say that you have probably been the most insightful and articulate, there will always be flaws and variables within the MBTI system.
For example, I would definitely be considered an INFJ, especially after your explanation, but I am still very open to new possibilities, and can be indecisive.
I've discovered that this is actually caused by health problems, which includes brain fog!
Other people might have racing minds that are always thinking about new possibilities, or they might have ADHD.
Since we are more than our personalities, and everything converges in different ways, a pure personality type might not be possible to have.
Does that make sense?
@@daydream5120 I can definitely see this as a big cause of indecision in an INFJ, especially if we've surrounded ourselves with critical people who might not get our creative, outside-the-box way of thinking.
Definitely makes sense and I wholeheartedly believe that as well. It is most definitely not possible to fit perfectly into a category, but I can assume it can be fun for some as well as comforting to know that there are people who share alike characteristics.
It's quite simple. If you're around family and/or friends (people who's HARMONY you would normally want to keep intact) are you more likely to become really agitated if everyone feels the exact opposite about a certain moral or ethic you hold dear? Or are you more likely to bite your tongue and try to smoothen out the waters?
If you're more likely to get confrontational when literally everyone else is against you, you're an INFP.
INFJ's are chameleons and don't want to ruffle any feathers unless we're talking about like... murdering babies or something.
I completely agree on that, specially if someone had a mental health condition (for example adhd, does that effects our personalities per se?)
he is kind of mixing up the two up. Although some points are right, others are more iffy. Very common when attempting to distinguish between the two.
YOU NAILED IT!
Finally, someone who understands the functions and expresses them in such detail with perfect (and most importantly, accurate) descriptions.
THANK YOU!
Thank you so much! ~ Nathan
I really reeeeeally struggled with this. Especially when I watch Frank James' videos, so often his characterizations of INFJ scream "me!" to me, yet the tests, and other evidence, consistently pronounce me an INFP. But, finally, I do recognize myself in the "maelstrom" as well as the "lostness" in the midst of society. Yes. Of course. It is indeed who I have always been, in spades. I think that the "resonances" I pick up in Mr. James' INFJ characterizations can be accounted to two or three things: 1) the commonalities between introverts (this is a huge factor, I suspect); 2) James actually being an INFJ himself, he naturally provides the largest window into the type's (i.e., his) inner world--this means that he will, inevitably, portray qualities, natural human reactions, that are perhaps more common to us all than strictly INFJ, i.e., the typical human fears, insecurities, perplexities, etc.; 3) in the same vein as "2", it must be kept in mind that all of us can manifest all the cognitive functions and our "stacks" are not hermetically sealed absolutes.
I just discovered Frank James. So he's an INFJ? I would have guessed he was an extravert.
Always on point.
Thank you! ~ Nathan
these kind of videos is what we need to make people see more clearly, people would be surprised to find that many sensors are really in touched with their child or inferior intuition function (Ne/Ni) and it makes them look like an N type, these people i think are more likely to get miss typed when taking an online test, because they think that they are naturally intuitive while in reality they have faced their fear and developed that function very well, not to mention how unreliable these online tests are.
Great comment! ~ Nathan
Yes, i got my answer! Thank You! I am an INFJ.
Glad we could help you confirm it! ~ Nathan
Very accurate observations of my type, INFJ.
That’s great to hear! I’m always worried that my theoretical ramblings won’t actually match up with people’s experience ~ Nathan
I am an INFP who is on the cusp of INFJ, and I like to analyse and understand as many perspectives and ideas surrounding a concept as possible. I rarely agree that there is one true answer or way of looking at things, and will often present alternative viewpoints simply for the thrill of it, for the opening up of a conversation or philosophical debate.The problem is that people tend to feel that when I question their viewpoint that I am criticizing them or disagreeing with them, which is not typically my intention. My intention is to understand, to make sense of things, or to discuss and consider options rather than simply accept doctrine. I guess the truth is, I also want people to realise that their viewpoint is not the only one and there are endless possibilities. People so often seem stuck in their bubbles so I like to burst them open lol! I don't do it to be mean, but to be elucidating.
Do other INFP's have this issue with their friends/coworkers? Has it caused problems in your relationships like it has in mine?? I feel the older I get, and more stuck in my ways, it is becoming a problematic reaction on my part. I have been called "challenging" and "oppositional" even though I am truly empathic and supportive of others. It is an odd combo for sure.
Could you give me any advice to present my curiosity in a way that doesn't come across as "challenging"? I feel misunderstood and I honestly just want deeper connections based on thoughtful conversations, not cliched beliefs.
Shay Steinberg Guess Exactly what I would like to know!
And yes I have had issues with my coworkers. Now I don’t feel alone.
I felt that so much XD
For me, either people thought I opposed them or that I was annoying and complicating simple and obvious stuff.
Like, if a crime was commited, I would try to find out the "why", how come the criminal went so far, why is it bad what he did, ect. And even if I don't agree with the criminal's behaviour, people would interpret my reaction as trying to forgive the criminal which is not necessarly the case. Even if I know it's bad, I just want to understand the bad. (I hope what I say makes sense)
Anyway my initial point...
I found two ways to avoid conflicts:
- Either you find people who are open minded and curious... That would be the easy way XD even if you wander off and see things from another point of view, they would still listen to you. I love those people we need more of them XD
- You agree to what they say first. You explain why you agree with his point of view, after all it's legitemate too.
However if you don't agree at all to what the other says, I don't know for you, but I am at least able to understand what and how they feel. So I would start of "Yes I understand why you feel this way (reason), but/and I feel (say your point)" I think since you insist on feelings, it comes off as less agressive and less factual.
So basically, try to find a common ground first.
Once you're comfortable and didn't make the other person angry, you can try to evade to what you wanted to say in the first place and encourage them to think as well, but in a way that seems like it's a possibility, stay open and not forceful. "However don't you think..." rather that "But don't forget to consider..." (or similar, I hope you get my point). If the other person is open mided enough it should be okay :) If they really don't seem to be engaging the conversation, just drop it and find someone else to talk to about this issue ^^
On the other hand, with this method it's harder to deal with people who have a tendency of calling others "annoying". They get lost in the explanation and since it's not their priority to understand they would just shove it off with a "shut up" or "you complicate things too much". My advice... avoid these people XD well I don't since I am still interested in their point of view, but you have to be ready mentally for it XD sometimes it works, they are just annoyed at the specific moment you wanted to discuss the issue.
Anyway I hope I was clear (probably not) and if you have any advice or experience or anything you want to talk about please do! :3
I feel like I'm an INFP who evolved into an INFJ because of a series of events/stages that have happened in life. I was a person who would like to share the best qualities or the best view points/ideas in the world just because I would like for everyone to be the best people in the world, having the best qualities. Now, I'm the type of person who believes that it's very very unlikely that people can change their mindset or characteristics and I deeply believe that many people just can't or do not have the capacity to do so (unfortunately I might sound arrogant but the fact is there are so VERY few people who can change themselves for the better, just because it requires so much brain cell energy to change fundamental characteristics/mindset or accept new concepts/schemata which people have grown used to, brain cell energy/power that most people don't have because they haven't been flexing their brain muscles throughout their lives). So, instead of wasting the slightest energy for something that's not going to happen or be accepted, why not instead focus our energy on other things which prove to be fruitful?
I used to be the kind of person who when someone said something, I immediately would like to share these other ideas that they have probably not have thought about. And I would do this to EVERYONE. I would tell the past version of myself that there are differences in people. There are people who when they are told something, they have the brain muscles to try to digest what you've just said and then there are people who don't have the brain power to do so. And of those people who do not have it, some are "Oh, wow. Sorry! I just can't process these ideas that you've just given me..." but are fine with it. And then there are those other people who are when shoved with all these different ideas are "Oh no! I can't process all these ideas he/she has given me... What do I do?? I hope I don't look a fool..." and become frustrated and it shows because they don't respond positively or neutrally about the new ideas you've just shared but rather negatively.
What I suggest you do is you start thinking that these ideas are hurtful. So, you want to really be selective about sharing ideas and only share with those who you think won't be hurt by them. First, just assume that most people would be hurt or feel attacked. Also, whereas in the past, I would be really excited to share ideas and almost as if I couldn't wait for the person to finish his/her sentence so that I could tell them right away about these interesting things, now I just nod and say "Oh, I understand your point of view." and say nothing else. However, when they go on and on and on about their topic, after quite a while then I feel it would be acceptable if I say, "Hey, there's also this idea. What do you think about it?" Then, if and only if they respond positively, I add "There's also this other idea. What do you think?" If in any way they act negatively, then just leave it. What's the point of giving something to someone who would just be hurt by it or feel uncomfortable by it. This strategy also has the added bonus of sounding like you're really listening to them and so they would be less agitated by you. When somebody says something to you and you immediately answer with other ideas, it feels like you're not listening to them (which you aren't most likely by the way...) It only really feels like you're listening to them if they've almost exhausted all they wanted to say about the subject. Yeah, so that's my opinion! Cheers..!:D
I didn’t want this video to end. Love the comparison.
An observation on my end... as an INFJ I feel that life has pushed me into developing my own values (Fi). I feel like often people sense my Fe openness and want to fill that kind of void with their own values and I’m like... no. (It has been and still is a hard lesson... sweet impressionable Fe).
Glad you enjoyed it! ~ Nathan
This is so true. Great comparison!
I think the part about INFP's (I'm one myself) "correcting" someone with what they feel about their opinions or ideas is spot on. When I think what someone's said doesn't make sense or is flat-out wrong, I make it known. It can be unsettling because of the sudden mood change. My INFJ friend, on the other hand, doesn't do that at all (unless it's extreme and out of hand). We're both pretty chill, but she has a more organized and elegant way of approaching things. I kinda just stumble in and try to find my way around. 😂 (I'm pretty sure some INFP's mistype as INFJ's because their enneagram is 4w5, too.)
1:58 so basically..
INFP: Oh you're selfish and immature
INFJ: What the crap are you on?!
Your comment is relatable. This might be the one thing that makes me sure I am an INFP! Everytime I meet people they seem to judge quickly and be like "I know how respond to you" because of one behavioral trait. And they get confused afterwards but I dont really care I just want to get to my point.
The first time I did the mbti test I got the result of INFP I never really looked at my personality that much at the time but I felt that it fit in well nicely, fast forward a few months, my friend brought the test up again and I got the result of the INFJ, at this point I was really confused so I decided to take a dozen tests and I got a mixed results of INFJ, INTJ and INFP. I was so curious about my identity that I learned all the different types all the cognitive functions and binge watch vids like these. I actually encouraged my friends to do the test and I have discovered that I have INTP and ENTJ friends, originally my ENTJ friend got ESFP but that really didnt fit in with his description and based of my observation he was more of an ENTJ, I realised people have their own perspectives in dealing with the questions, I was sure he was an ENTJ due to the ammount of reading and searching about mbti that he is in fact an ENTJ but that dosent mean he is obligated to act to what he got in the test, people are different and intuition is weird. Whats the conclusion? Idk tbh but from the ammount of mbti related information ive absorbed Im probably an INFJ, but being the skeptic that I am, Im probably not :p
This is the most accurate description Ive ever seen about INFP and INFJ. The way you explain things are easy and straight to the point. One question. I watched many of your videos and i noticed that you struggle a little with INFP. Am i right?
Btw you DO have a lovely face :-)
my type has been said to be infp but i honestly feel my personality is more of a mix of both.....some attributes tend more towards infp and others more towards infp.....
This is by far the best explanation I've ever seen about the differences between INFPs and INFJs. Good work!
Thank you! ~ Nathan
For me too. After a week of obsessive research thus far.
I think I read an article or saw a video which explained one core difference between INFP and INFJ its regarding empathy. INFJs have to be with a person and absorb the emotion like a sponge...INFP dont even have to even be with the person they just run the others experience through their own collection of experiences and find connections and relate to that person
I've been coming back to this video since I was 15 and now, 3 years later, I've finally settled on INFP
4:34 about INFPs being indecisive. Using philosophy and the nature of reality as a context. I believe that this is our strength: being open-minded about possibilities.
Keeping an open mind allows you to enjoy possibilities. What's wrong in not subscribing fully to a viewpoint? Looking at history we can see that there were many attempts at describing the ultimate truth about our place on this planet. Are all they right? Are all the wrong? Or is there something in between?
Unfortunately a lot of people are very close minded and judgemental.And usually these "my way or the highway" types run the world.
Ideas vs Values. I personally think that both types prefer both ideologies, however they do not use them at the same level. For instance,
INFPs= Values-Ideas
INFJs=Ideas-Values.
Let's not forget that INFJ is a settled and fixed personality because of Ni. And INFP is a flexible and wondering personality because of Ne. INFP= Values for Fi and Ideas for Ne. INFJ=Ideas for Fe and Values for Ni. The reason why Values come second to INFJs while they have Ni in first position is because their Ni is an intuitive type while their Fe is a feeling type. I personality think that, when a type has their feeling function in either first or second positions; the feeling type will guide them the most in social situations. So, for the INFJ, I would say they have strong values, but don't let it be apparent to others in social setting if they are not at ease or if they are not gaining anything from being apparent. It's like INTJs who have their feeling type in third position, but still manage to be in touched with it. Or ENTJs who have their feeling type in forth position, but still manage to get uncontrollably triggered by it at time. That's how powerful feeling types are. And concerning the Fi vs Ni, that's funny since I kind of still relate to both of these reactions, but it depends on the environment, how much we've discussed the subject in question, and if, to me, the subject is debatable or not=uncontroversial vs controversial.
What a great, clear video! I feel this really helped to affirm me as INFP. There were a few times I thought I related more to the INFJ but then I realised that they were probably what I want to be, not what I am. 😄
Love to hear this, any tiny of bit of clarity we can give is awesome ~ Nathan
I feel like I'm either an INFJ with a very active ENFP shadow or an INFP buried inside a pseudo INFJ facade.
I'm so INFJ that
I know if I don't subscribe I would still get your videos by recommendations from TH-cam analytics.
But I also subscribed because it might even be of a small help to you :)
That "likable face" was quite convincing.
Ever since I completed the test I always was confused with these two. Once the test told me that I am an INFJ, the other time I am an INFP. Now I clearly see that I am INFP. Thank you!!!
I think the procrastination makes the difference. One is overachiever and the other underachiever. The one who realizes this early can help themselves develope towards something more acceptable in society
That sweater looks extremely comfortable - I need it!
Excellent Analysis... Pretty spot on. The only thing I would say regarding INFJ decision making is that often we can also deliberate over a decision like an INFP though for different reasons. For example if we are indifferent to a particular choice or even if we prefer one way but it only regards a trivial matter and there is other people involved we would rather not make a decision in favour of the other's choice. The other scenario is where a personal decision has to be made regarding a life choice, then we can vacillate over what to do if we feel we do not have enough information to make the right decision.
Interesting! ~ Nathan
That seemed spot on. It's rare for MBTI commentators to get every point right. BTW, as an INTP, I can identify with a lot of the INFP stuff, especially not fitting in - my lifelong torture. I'm surprised by that because I tend to see INFP as soft and fluffy, whereas I can be strident once you get me going.
worldwidehappiness we’re soft and fluffy if we like u..
INTPs and INFPs make the best teams tbh. I’m an INFP and my boyfriend is an INTP and we are really similar except I’m a lot more emotional
@@rachiekimberly6800 I'd like to find a songwriting and/or screenwriting collaborator. Maybe an INFP is the solution!
INFPs wory that people don't like them; INTPs wory that people don't appreciate their peculiar kinds of work.
Spot in. This INFP thinks your description of an INFP is the best in YT. Thank you.
What am I? I recently scored as an INFP, but last year I was an INFJ, I feel a bit more drawn to INFP.
INFP - I feel more Lost and Out of Place
INFP/INFJ - I mostly feel misunderstood, but at times not understood
INFP - I am more in-tuned with my feelings, and I feel many emotions at the same time
INFJ/INFP - Depending on the situation, I like to narrow down my decisions. However, sometimes, I would like to keep my options open and open doors to new opportunities
INFP - I'm open-minded
INFJ - But I'm stubborn
INFP - I'm more interested in values & beliefs, especially my own.
INFP/INFJ - Most of the time, especially depending on who I'm talking to, I say what I feel. But at the same time, I'll try to listen and understand
I believe I'm an unhealthy INFP, but I could be wrong 😔🤷♀️
I'd recommend checking out the individual videos on the types on this channel. They go much more in-depth and could be far more helpful, let me know how it goes! ~ Nathan
Yes, “it’s a likeable face”. This is an excellent comparative vid. Initially I typed as an INFJ on brief intro 4 question MBTI “test”, then INFP on Keirsey Temperament. Recently told INFP (Fi dom) have strong identity, while INFJs (Fe dom) less sure of their own identity. Ideas?
AnimangaGirl Years & years of this can be very unpleasant as I known, but realizing your MBTI birth type (INFJ) is first refreshing step to acceptance and change in building your own strong identity.
I am INFP and my daughter INFJ, and Myer-Briggs allowed us to appreciate each other's differences after 20 years of mis - communication and mis - understanding. You just gave us another whole level of insight into our uniqueness, thank you so much and yes I hit that subscribe button.
This was so helpful! I’ve tested as INFJ and later as INFP and this video really drove home the point that I’m definitely INFP 10000000%!!
Awesome! ~ Nathan
6:20 This explains why some people think I’m “judgmental”. I like expressing my point of view with people when they express theirs and somehow some people think it’s judgmental.
But in the same way I’m very open to people’s views since everyone’s upbringing is different. And like other INFPs know, we try to see their perspective to understand where they come from.
Idk... I guess I’m just rambling because I wish they didn’t see my views like I’m being judgmental towards theirs.
Mistake at 3:34. I think you meant INFJ instead of INTJ. Great vid!
Well spotted! I'll run it by you for a double check next time! ~ Nathan
Dang it, that ending. I'm sold.
Great work again, Nathan. Thanks for the demystification :P
INFJ sister
- executes goals and excels in life, climbing up that ladder towards success. Super focused INFJ-eagle eyes looking at the next big thing.
INFP me
- wanders through life, committing to one major passion while also dipping my INFP-tentacles in other options as well xD
Though I would say, she's a bit more ready to push her views/ideas on people while I'd be more open to different views/ideas.
With maturity comes more openness and acceptance to differing opinions and values.
Good luck in life my fellow INFPs.
Thank you!! Those insights into yourself and your sister are really interesting to hear about... ~ Nathan
You make very clear points. I'm definitely INFJ, thought I was INFP for being a bit unedecisive, but it turns out that I try to find the "better" option and I also like to simplify things for myself.
I don't overthink as much as maybe an INFP would (although we still do) I like to keep calm and do whatever I can to fix the current situation and find a "universal" fix.
I'd also say that INFJs are perfectionists for a fact. With grammar, picture frames, audio, chairs lined up, or even fixing people's problems and we sometimes fix things without thinking about it its, a naturally habit.
We just don't like when things are out of place.
I was told I was more perceiving but throughout life, I found myself having so much constructive criticism with food or entertainment, but also enjoying it (being a paradox) and I never knew what that word meant while it would be put into action.
If you don't know which one you are still, it doesn't mean you're automatically INFP, it can also mean they're both not clear enough for you. But this video and my comment should give a bit of insight.
I love your recent endings to the videos, very funny. I never thought I might be INFJ, and could never relate to their kind of thinking, but I watched the video anyway. Now I can be even more certain I'm not one.
Well, glad we could confirm that you're still not an INFJ! ~ Nathan
As an INFP, it was the “likeable face” at the end that got me hahah
Great video! Cleared up a lot. I am an INFJ and related so what you said about INFJ. And I loved how you explained that both people who INFJs agree with and don't agree with will feel like they're on the same page as INFJ. While INFP make their feelings and opinions more clear. INFJs do anything to keep the peace, analyze and understand other people, hiding themselves and appearing 'mysterious'.
I used my Ni and subscribed a while ago! You're really great. Love the way you explain things. Makes it easy to understand.
Thank you very much! ~ Nathan
Thank you so much for this video. I took the test and got INFP and I was quite satisfied with that. But when I read about INFJs I really connected with the description of them as well. This video really helped me think through it and I've come to the conclusion Im more of an INFJ! Thank you very much for the help!
the fact that I said "what's that?" during the emotions part and then he proceeded to say "INFJs can be quite out of touch with their own feelings." mmmmhhhmmmm whatcha sayyyy
I think another thing that adds to the confusion is that Fe can create a lot of people based value judgements... as in the proper behavior of people towards others. If an INFP also has a lot of Fi judgments in this area... they can seem similar.
And yet another, the functions for females are more evenly strong than in males, which the first two functions tend to dominate more. When the functions are more evenly spread, they tend to feel less like the archetypal types.
I agree with these points ~ Nathan
Can you represent the last paragraph in numbers? I'm seeing evenly spread as 8 6 5 4, and evenly strong as 8 7 4 3. Actually only by writing this do I see the point
@@superAweber in terms of numbers for women it would mean each function was almost at the same level of usage and development. So if you rated each function by some number on those terms, they would come out fairly close together in women. So like 7-7-6-5
In men, the dominant and auxiliary functions tend to be much stronger than the tertiary and inferior functions. So you'd get something along the lines of 8-7-5-2.
Of course there will always be exceptions.
In terms of why this happens. No one knows. It comes up in Dario Nardi's Book "Neuroscience of Personality"
@Manny Cracker Do you think you are representative of most Fe users?
Yeah, I'm definitely an INFP 😃 I have often been asked if I am an ENFP or compared me to Phoebe Buffay. I really did like the comparison. My strong feelings often do take me by surprise and I often come across as calm and make allowances for difference in people's character, situations and temper
(Sorry, that comment may be besides the point but since you mentioned your likable face, it may be appropriate.) As an INFJ, I so delight in your delivery style, it is so unlike any ways I perceive in myself! I'd be curious to know your personality type (although I have an idea) plus personalities fascinate me... how people's mind work to make them be the way they are and come across the way they do. I appreciate your way of thinking so much, it makes me laugh, but the overall vibe is even richer (what is to be read between the lines)... It never gets boring!
You hit the nail so hard on this one point which hit home with me when you said "both parties will leave thinking the INFJ is on the same page as them" due to our desire to understand where every person is coming from. I cannot tell how many awkward positions I have found myself in where I literally see people confiding in me believing I'm on their side just because I get where they are coming from just because I'm putting myself in their shoes to understand their point of view. I have once said I feel like a "Tennis Net" between two players playing tennis. I'm not active in the match however I'm in the dead center of the action, lol.
As an INFP, your description of my type is as succinct and accurate as I've heard. Everything you said describes me to a tee. It can be exhausting being an INFP lol. :)
Great job. Subscribed!
When I first got into mbti I was confused too. Later I confirmed I was an infj and all the times I was getting infp in the mbti test i was aswering the questions "the way i want to be" and not "the way i am" and I've never been close to being an infp in the first place
Exactly! Those online tests are very unreliable ~ Nathan
This is why INFJs can be drawn to psychologically unbalanced people, seeking to understand them. We are often drawn to people who think differently.
Yes.... Misunderstood is different than never being understood... And so let's just keep silent for it is what it is
2 years ago or so, i took my first test on 16personalities.com and it came out i am an INFP but then i took another test earlier this year and it said i am an INFJ so i took a test again after weeks of the recent test and it came out i am an INFJ but then as i watch this video about the difference between the two, i most likely to be an INFP and now im questioning myself pls someone help me and enlighten me
As an INFP, I used to want to be an INFJ. I thought it would be just like me, but more organized and productive. I now realize that we are extremely different, and no offense to the INFJ's out there. (My best friend is an INFJ), but I am infinitely happier with my INFP personality type after looking at the cognitive functions and observing a real life INFJ living life and making choices. Being an INFJ just seems frustrating to me. I love keeping my options open and listening to other people's ideas. And yes, I struggle with procrastination and getting things done, but honestly my INFJ best friend does too. So I've decided to embrace my whimsical fun nature and try to work on my productivity a bit lol.
I have no idea how you INFJs can make decisions without seeking more information. I've watched my best friend make some life decisions that are... um different than what I would have done without seeking any information before making the big decision. Thirty minutes of researching or asking a more knowledgeable person for advice would save her months of regret and frustration. She also really struggles with working through the past. She gets really stuck on things that happened and never fully resolves those issues. I've been through some very traumatic life events, but I find that I'm extremely resilient and able to acknowledge that the bad thing happened, process it, grieve it, whatever I need to do, and then I move forward with my life because dwelling on it isn't going to change anything and will only serve to make me miserable. So once I deal with something... even if it takes a little while, I can just move on. Where she will deal with an issue, but then it comes back around and she has to start all over and deal with the same issues and traumas forever. It just looks exhausting.
Plus, I've noticed she frequently gets into really bad cyclical patterns of doing the same thing over and over again and then being surprised when it works out badly every time. (Specifically with money related issues). But if she changed her behavior, she would see different results. I've tried to lose weight for years, but I try different methods always looking for what will work for me. I don't try the same things over and over again. Once something doesn't work for me, I move on and try something else. I love her to death, but I much prefer my cognitive functions over hers. I'm also married to an INTJ, so I feel like he makes up the difference with anything I lack, and he's really helped me develop a lot of my weaker cognitive functions. Again no offense to the INFJs, these are just the things I've noticed. I'm sure y'all have a list of things you don't like about how our cognitive functions work hahaha.
Your friend doesn't sound like an INFJ to me.
@@hybridangel14 She has taken the test multiple times and says that she 100% is. And this is just my personal observations and it is very colored by how differently we make decisions. She is extremely decisive, which in some areas is a huge asset and a great quality to have.
For example, naming her children. She just decided on a name in a couple of weeks and that was it. Meanwhile, it took me two months to name my dog lol... I looked at list upon lists of names because I wanted all the ideas possible to make sure I was picking the best name. And she would probably call that being indecisive or overthinking it lol. She was more like oh that name is nice... That's the one 😂. And she picked great names, I just know it would take me forever to name a human 😂😂😂
But it comes from the INFJ looking within themselves when making decisions instead of seeking a lot of outside advice. I've read a lot about this and that is a hallmark INFJ thing based on what I've read. They don't typically like to seek or take advice.
Her biggest strength lies in her ability to read people. She can pick out manipulative and deceptive people with uncanny accuracy.
I have traits of both. I think I am more INFJ at my job, trying to make organization out of chaos, and avoid conflict with others.....
But I am more of an INFP in "real life", when I am not under that pressure, and free to be myself.....
INFJ with 4 INFP girl friends here. Sometimes I'll just watch them talking and having fun from a far while I'm sitting somewhere listening to music. I'm happy when they are happy. I love them a bunch.
From what I've understood of the types, I think one of the biggest differences between INFP and INFJ is the difference between Fi and Fe.
INFP's (whose dominant function is Fi) always know what they're feeling. They are aware of what feelings are "theirs" and what others are feeling; they also tend to go their own way when it comes to their own values. Like an eccentric artist, other people might not understand the INFP's ideas or values, but the INFP themselves know where they're coming from, and they might passionately defend these values, because their values are very personal to them.
INFJ's on the other hand have Ni as their dominant function, which is very good at detecting patterns and boiling things down, in a very "non-emotional" and "value-less" way.
With Fe as the second function INFJ's understand other people's emotions, (and with Ni; other peoples ideas), but as they shine a spotlight on the emotions of others, they might not Themselves understand their OWN emotions.
I'm INFJ, and a lot of times I have to really dig deep inside my soul in order to figure out how *I* feel about something.
I'm extremely easily *seemingly* "swayed" by other people's opinions, because with Ni and Fe, I completely understand where they're coming from.
As a result, I'll often feel like I've taken on the values of other people after having talked to them, and I have a hard time finding my way "back" to my own system of values.
I still *have* the value system, but if you're a social chameleon, it might take some time remembering your *own* "colours", if you've been adapting to the colours of others for a really long time. I sometimes need long periods by myself (introverted "hibernation" periods), just to find my way back to my own colours, without being influenced by others.
And from what I've understood, INFP's never have that problem: they always know where their feelings and values are coming from.
If it weren't for my definite use of Ne I would be so confused about my type because I relate to both INFJs and INFPs on nearly every other point. Through an obsessive (I admit) ongoing study of the cognitive types I am almost fully settled on INFP. That also happens to be the type 16personalities gave me, though my understanding of the system has grown a lot since I first took the test on that site. I have to remind myself often that there are a lot of traits about myself that I have worked to overcome, such as emotional over-sensitivity and a judgmental attitude, but simply because they're no longer as apparent in me, doesn't mean they're not a part of me. I've heard several people say that our true type should be a little embarrassing or upsetting to us, and when I read about the INFP there are things that push my buttons and make me think, "Uhg, no I'm not that way!" But the reason I feel so strongly about it is because I WAS that way and I didn't like it so I changed it, or at least suppressed it.
I am an INFP and my husband is an INFJ. Even before we knew this, I always thought that though we clash a lot over the key differences you mention, and utterly mystify one another most of the time, it works out anyway because we definitely have in common that we are both equally not understood by / don't fit into most of the rest of the human world. At least we can both relate to that and have each other's backs!
I like how your videos help to understand the point of view of an intuitive thinker. They show me what I am (INFJ) missing out by having Ti as a 3rd function
I'm an INFP, and my mom is an INFJ. I can easily say this is very helpful for me to help understand her and I can't wait to show this to her X3
Let us know how she reacts! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho She found it very informative and understood my habits a bit more. I do want to say thanks for pointing out the differences in an easy to understand manner ^w^
@@fox-fluffl9002 👍
It is a complex point with lots of variances, but you do a wonderful job pointing out the major differences. It took me awhile to be comfortable with expressing my Fi. I.e. to be more assertive with my feelings. It takes a lot of practice and will.
Side note Ne is awful for decision making! I am in awe of INFJs for being able to have a plan and stick to it. I really had to develop my Ni to become better at decision making for things that are unknown. It is hard though. Also, when in doubt, compassion is always the answer. That helps a ton. Also, when in doubt, what you should do > what you want to do.
-INFP
Oh I am definitely an INPF (though I clicked on the video because it seemed interesting), and it is so oddly satisfying to hear you say things about INFPs and feel "wow that's me, I feel understood" honestly such a great feeling
3:16 Oh and btw I just came up with this exact metaphor a few weeks ago! That my thinking style, the chaos of unspecified thoughts in my mind, is like soup - it is all mixed, I can't really see different ingredients and looking for a specific thought might take a while, but I know for sure how the whole thing tastes (It's like I can't really name my feelings, yet I know exactly how I feel).
Current INFP - I believe that I used to be more of a turbulent INFJ in the past. I was very emotionnaly guarded and into some sort of an achievement quest that never ended. I thought that achieving things in life could only be possible by being hard-working, structured and decisive. However, I wasn't considering a more important ingredient : passion. Then I traveled and decided that I would start trying to figure out who I am and what I truly like. I realised that there was no shame in being a very emotionnal person and could just start embracing that part of myself instead of trying to change it. I discovered how fun exploring crazy and weird ideas while recognizing my strong value system helped me get self confidence and ended up identifying myself more as an INFP (even leaning towards ENFP). If there's anything I can tell people who are struggling with themselves, it's that you are amazing as you are and no one but yourself defines you and must recognize your awesomeness. Take care :)
Excuse my potential grammatical errors. I usually speak French!
Look, I’ve watched way too many videos about whether you’re an INFP or an INFJ, but I‘m still not sure. I was typed INFP in the 16 personalities test, I read a lot about it and most of these descriptions fit me, but since I read more about INFJ‘s I find myself relating to many of their characteristics aswell. I‘m so confused.
When in doubt. Just take what's useful
eah they sure share a lot of the same language in their personality descriptions. But I am positive that I am an INFP. In my own observations and shallow conclusion, INFPs tend to be more tolerant of openness, like lack of a plan or a goal in any given situation, whereas the J types would prefer closure, just as this video explained about Ni wanting to decide and move forward. Also what's very telling imo is that INFPs tend to be socially awkward and lonely, the turbulent ones certainly are.
(INFP)
People: (surprised) "Papa Romeo, you don't strike me as an introvert! You're so expressive."
Me: (Internal monologue) "What part of this ONE ON ONE conversation makes them think I'm not?!"
I took some paintings to be juried for entry into an artists' guild. My prime entry was all the way back from 1976, and the other five entries fell along the time line up to about 1987. At the time of their decision the spokesperson said they questioned whether I had even done the earlier painting. I tended to sour-grapes this guild, because to me they were a bunch of Southern ladies who tended to paint magnolias and moss-draped oaks.
Thank you so much, I can finally rest assured that I am indeed an INFJ instead of feeling like 'what if I'm one of the people who just want to be rare' or 'what if I'm only convincing myself that I'm INFJ because that's what I confirmed myself to be at first'
...which, if I think about it, might have been a very INFJ-esque worry in the first place.
Just made a value judgment and subscribed.
And yes - a very likable face indeed.
Keep on creating great life-expanding, self-knowledge-growing, well-informed, insightful content.
Love Who, Love YOU.
My face appreciates you liking it, thank you! Also... I really like the videos you have on your channel, you should post more!
Nathan Glass You’re brilliant Nathan. Thank YOU. Can’t wait to see what else you’ve got in store for your channel.
Great video as always. I'm an INFJ, and I very much relate to the idea that people will think I'm on the same page with them, and seem someone they can confide in except that they don't really know me. I'm mysterious, and I've been told so. This makes dating interesting, in the sense that I can spend time with all sorts of people without feeling the need to judge their values, something an INFP would find difficult time doing. However, when it comes to Ni-Ti (which wants to analyze and come to conclusions) choosing a partner/a close friend could be difficult since it clashes with Fe: how can I choose someone I'm compatible with on the long run, if many people enjoy my company? How can I move forward with specific people without hurting other people? Sometimes I find myself using Ti more than Fe to solve this problem, especially since my Ti is well developed. I guess INFJs can be both loved by many and hated by many because Ti (or being stuck in Ni-Ti loop) will make INFJs seem so cold, but Fe can buffer this. I think INFPs would have decided who to continue to spend time with early on and avoided dragging all kinds of relationships for far too long.
PS: Every time I leave a comment on your video it tends to be a paragraph. Sorry!
I enjoy your paragraphs a lot ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Thank you!
All the tests say I am an infp but your description here fits me really well..mhh
this made me see the difference better than all videos i've seen
After waffling between infp and infj through this whole video, finally figured out my type because of the last section. I could never present as an enfj, only enfp. Brilliant litmus test! Subscribed.
As an INFJ, I normally wouldn't mind listening to people I strongly disagree with. What he said was true, they'd think that they've persuaded me at some point, but they haven't. 😅 What usually happens after every discussion is that, I'd try to analyze how he/she came up with those ideas. Digging up his/her past experiences, learning what he/she is currently experiencing, and alike. I'd usually stay silent, until I feel like they are forcing their ideas to me.
All tests I've taken swap back and forth between INFJ and INTJ, though I think it's a closer tie between INFP and INFJ. The tie-breaker between the carefree attitude of INFP and the stubbornness of INFJ becomes more difficult when you are a slow-to-change, anxious type who finds it difficult to even *approach* decisions for fear of making the wrong one--which seems on the one hand to fit into the INFP indecisiveness, but also gives appearance of putting deliberate distance from things in life. A tough call.
🤯 this was so interesting because I had no idea that INFJ and INFP were so different. I'm INFP and my mum is INFJ and hardly ever get along well.
"INFPs can feel lost and out of place in life."
Ok that's me. Problem solved
Haha same !
Nathan! 😊 You have provided the most accurate comparison between these two types, who have completely different set of cognitive functions driving them to do what they do, and an easy transition to talking about their dominant and auxilliary functions. I was also impressed with using the right motivation for your call to action.
This is awesome to hear! ~ Nathan
I am an INFJ-T I get Turbulent at times. I do see where I could be open to other ideas but I feel the value in mine!
Me too infj-t
@@cynthiasarah4286 oh how cool..
This is legit the first video to actually make me understand how I truly am an infj. All the tests say so but I have social anxiety disorder and some other things which I think makes me relate to some things that are more on the infp side. But truly this video I just kept saying yes to the descriptions of the infjs. And all other videos talking about this didn't use these examples so really, thank you haha.
Helps me understand why I am chill & agreeable unless a deep core value is messed with, then I am
very outspoken & not always gentle about it.
For me I’m just confused because I am indecisive with what I want to do like an infp but I relate to infj in every other way in this video