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How to Figure Out if You’re INFP or INFJ in 5 Minutes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2020
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If you are an INFJ, you are inclined to generalize and focus on the big picture, you have the tendency to be a people pleaser, you run away from conflict, but you don't shy away from confrontation if there is a noble cause. You also have an innate artistic nature and you are drawn towards beautiful and useful things. You tend to overanalyze and filter everything through your emotions. You also like structure and you like planning everything in advance. Most INFJs (especially the turbulent ones) hate surprises and truly value their independence. An INFJ doesn't want to be a burden to anyone and doesn't like to take advantage of other people's weaknesses even though they can spot them. INFJs have high moral values, they are idealists and believe in humanity. INFJs can be very spiritual people and seek a deeper meaning to life, even though some of us are not exactly what you would call religious. INFJs love to spend time in nature and love animals. A true INFJ spends a lot of time reading, watching movies, and documentaries (anatomy, DIY, psychology, physics, literature, linguistics, biology, geography, you name it...). Prefer to spend most of their time alone, have few friends, or none at all, even though INFJs are not anti-social. As an INFJ you are aware that you are different and people are not able to understand you, so you constantly feel as if you don't fit in anywhere. INFJs can read people instinctively and have the ability to anticipate and predict other people's actions and the motives that lie behind those actions. INFJs are passionate and have strong convictions of how the world should function, they hate injustice and are capable of bullying the bullies in order to protect the victims of aggression.
This is very informational and important to me, thank you!
Thank you so much!
This explains a lot thank you.
Excellent assessment, Anna. Thank you.
Oh my gosh you just explained my life lmfao
As an INFP, to have someone want to establish an emotional connection proactively and ask about my feelings etc. is pretty much all I'd ever want but would never openly ask for.
Same
Well I really relate to it....So am I an infp then?
Confused
@@aadiyalal9496 it is confusing
@@starmaster9105 yeah my judging and percieving ratio is 49 and 51 percent. I am so confused btw what is your type?
@@aadiyalal9496 OMG Same here! 49% J and 51%P! I just identify with both personality types. I 've also checked out Astrology, Archetypes and MindTypes and am going to check out Enneagrams.
I keep forgetting that the 16 personalities are just a theory, and theories changes all the time and are not fully accurate to the reality. 🌚
Well is accurate for me. I found people who thinks through the same ideas and just in a few minutes we are lost twin reunited. - from an INFJ 😛
and Make friends with some intuitive people along the way
I'm an INFP, but by most I read and watch about INFP stuff and it's 99% accurate
Haha same. I sometimes forget that I am a real human being, not a bunch of theories.
@Manny Cracker lately I have been coming to terms more with the fact that this indead just a test and theory. And I know that it is just a tool. What I meant with my comment was mostly is that instead of seeing and experiencing myself directly, I use a lot of theories to find out who I am and what drives me. This is what I meant with forgetting about being a human being of flesh and blood, and not a walking concept of some sort. Hope this clarifies things!
@Manny Cracker The people who give their trust to tests like 16personalities are the naive ones. The theory behind the entire thing (by Jung) is what interests me. Because once you’ve found out what your cognitive functions are, you can use this to know and work on your weaknesses. Most online free tests are pretty damn inaccurate (CPT says 16personalities for example has about a 50% accuracy).
It's kind of counterintuitive basically, isn't it? The dominant function of an INFP is introverted feeling and of an INFJ introverted intuition. So if you don't know too much about the MBTI, you'd expect the INFP to talk about feelings and the INFJ to talk about ideas, but it's actually the other way around. Since the first function of both is introverted, you only see the second function, which is extroverted. So what you mainly observe is the extroverted intuition of the INFP und the extroverted feeling of the INFJ. Basically, this means that it's the other way around: The INFP is talking about ideas and the INFJ is talking about feelings.
P.s.: I'm pretty new to all this, so I hope I got this right.^^
what if the infj spent for example more than 3 years alone or with very small amount of friends?
their ti will develop and their fe will become weaker, will them then express their ideas rather than their feelings?
@@BigBaibars thoughts and analysis
omg i've been obsessed for so long with mbti and never thought of it like this, you're brilliant!
Wow you explained it so well.
After watching this video, I think I'm an INFJ. But at the same time, I often keep both my ideas and emotions inside myself. I try to ask people about their views on things, so I can tell them mine, but I usually just end up feeling weirdly guilty for wanting to express myself to the point where I don't.
This helped me realize how I am an INFJ. I’ve always tested INFJ, but was skeptical because the description didn’t feel right, I then looked at the infp and also related to them, but like the INFJ, didn’t relate to everything. I’ve been on this infj/Infp journey for a year and finally settled on INFJ based upon this description and other videos.
Same
I’d mostly get infp
And sometimes get infj
But when I read the meanings
I’m very infj
I don’t trust these online tests
If you want to decipher who you are read more about the types don’t use tests they aren’t accurate and apparently infps and infj gets miss typed all the time
For me I feel like I'm both and still confused, maybe I'm a mix of both
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 This is so confusing...
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 I think you're not an INFJ only based on the way you express yourself.
I envy INFPs because they don’t feel responsable by others feelings like I do. I always have this feeling the people will fall apart if I won’t do something for help them.
They actually do,
But in other ways.
As an INFP I have always felt responsible for others feelings I think It depends on the person
This is very insightful! But what has determined it for me as an INFJ is first of all knowing an INFP, and also realizing that I have that sub-conscious way of temporarily absorbing people's emotions/personalities, as well as going into chameleon mode without even realizing it.
INFP'S don't do these things. They can also be the best at making INFJ'S feel like themselves.....whoever that is at the moment! They seem to bring out all that is authentic about us, if they are a healthy one!
Yeh
There’s also many unhealthy INFJs out there who can be detrimental to peoples mental health. Unhealthy INFJs don’t absorb peoples emotions, but they will probe deep into your personal life . Unfortunately, INFJs have a way of making you open up to them, even when unhealthy. We rarely open up to people as INFPs , so this can be a devastating relationship (i have an unhealthy INFJ sister and ex)
At this stage I'm pretty sure I'm in fact INFJ, but about to watch the vid anyway!
Same here but I think it's interesting to learn these things and have a better grasp at the differences between type functions. Though I don't let it define people as a whole.
Ro, you're INFJ I'm almost certain!
Would you mind telling me what convinced you?I could use some more help
Ley Ago The video might help! :D
@@RensRoom it was a great video but I'm still confused.
Because my parents are Nigerian I learned to emotionally adapt to other people. You must extrovert positive emotion, it is the iron social law. But as an INFP adjusting to others emotionally causes subconscious stress. Frequently I suffer a psychological backlash from my fake behaviour/not expressing my true emotion. This is why I now avoid socialising. My learned behaviour with fake Fe has bent me in a weird shape against myself
I get u. You’re loved and not alone.
I can totally relate. You’re not alone
My parent's are from two different backgrounds so I can't really blame their culture but I relate because they are narcissistic and basically caused the same issues for me forcing me to behave in ways that were unnatural to me. Could explain why I tested as ENFJ when I was younger, when I am 100% an introvert (figured that out in therapy) When I finally decided to cut the bs and bring my authentic self in family interactions IT DID NOT GO WELL to say the least, we are no longer on speaking terms
Yes I feel u
I'm an INFJ & my sister is an INFP. We always enjoy speaking about different topics deeply & whenever I feel I lost words to describe my feelings, she just makes it easy know exactly what to say. Reminded me of you & your brother ❤
Same here!
INFJ want good interactions with others, INFPs don’t care unless the interaction is naturally good. The cold inside warm outside for INFJ and opposite for INFP applies here.
Yes very true
Is this true?
I’ve been trying to decipher it for myself. I’ve taken multiple MBTI tests, and sometimes my prospective side is higher, and other times my judging side is higher (INF- stays more or less the same).
That being said, my prospective and judging functions, on average, between all the MBTI tests I’ve taken, are more or less averaged out at ~50% each with a +/- of 8 points given my psychological disposition of the particular day, and time I take the tests - if, that is true.
It’s got me to think, perhaps, when I’m being more ‘Yang,’ I’m an INFJ….
When I’m being more “Yin,” I’m an INFP….
Not to knock one for the other. Just something I’m questioning might be a possibility in the MBTI ‘game’
In the enneagram model, people can be for instance, a 3 leaning on 4, or other kinds of nuances….
The cold-warm/interior-exterior analogy might be helpful, to me, to recognize when I’m being healthy or not - given the world we live in (esp. since I live in a major city)
In any case, I’d like a clean delineating mark to know for sure, and if not, at least acknowledgment that, the model isn’t god’s psychological bible (from the MBTI buffs/purists)
Thoughts?
the 2 types are very different, having all functions changed. How to tell the difference? INFP are very subjective, meaning they are about self expression and individuality. They are not usually rebels in the wider sense. INFJs feel much less in their own bodies, usually relating more to others than themselves. Due to Fe an INFJ meeting people will tend to smile, whereas in my experience, INFP like ISFP only show how they feel inside, so can be quite serious and cool faced. So what are you?
@Coneman3 I suppose, I’m an INFJ, who also keeps a calm and cool face in front of others when need be (like an INFP).
@Coneman3 In that case, you seem to purport you’re an expert in this - let me pick your brain.
Is there a definitive test (in which I can pay for) to see the test results
I rarely take ‘self-proclaimed experts’ at face value.
Any information regarding that would be great.
Thanks.
Very interesting Ren, thanks !
I my case, i wouldn't say I trust easily at all but I can't say if it has something to do with being INFJ or if it's just me. But you are right, WHEN I feel I can trust someone (which can be super quick and intuition based), I will be very quickly super open and bold in expressing what I feel and it appears to be much earlier in the relationship than it is commonly considered normal.
Same
I guess I’m an INFP, but I can relate to both Introverted and Extroverted Intuition. I think I’m super high in intuition generally, which might be why it expresses itself in both ways. Learning about the communication styles was still kind of clarifying!
I agree with what you said because the Fi of INFPs make them more personally attached to ideas and so when the discussion comes around to those ideas they already have deep opinions about, the INFPs are quick to express ideas that have essentially been a part of themselves for the longest time. The Ti of INFJs on the other hand makes them more detached to whatever topic they come across and their primary Ni (which stands for cautious and observant) makes them step back and try to put the personal opinions of an INFP into a bigger picture.
as an infj who has been in a 16 year relationship with an infp, I find it easier to put myself in his shoes. Being in a relationship for this long has given me a better understanding our differences. But, this video is a helpful way to explain it. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this. I have almost always tested as INFP on all MBTI tests, but recently my result was INFJ and I read up on INFJ's and related to a huge amount. I obviously relate to a huge amount of INFP as well but in some areas I felt I was more one than the other, but it was fully unclear to me which I actually was! I was thinking "Am I just answering questions inaccurately on tests and getting the wrong type?!"
I looked more into the cognitive functions and honestly related to Fi, Fe, Ni & Ne all very strongly which didn't help! And I did a cognitive functions based test in which my highest score was Fi, but my Fe & Ni scores were the same and my Ne score (the lowest of these 4) was nearly 20% higher than my next score (Ti).
I know I feel deeply but I was feeling like "But I feel like I lead with intuition?! I don't feel like my feelings are what I put out there or what I want others to talk about with me (I mean I would love to talk about feelings with the safest person in The Universe as I guess I do have a lot to say, but that's never a conversation I would initiate!!!) and though they are deeply important to me, I feel like I operate a lot more in the world in intuition than in feeling" which was making me think how am I actually leading with a feeling thing?! Am I really an INFP?
Also, I think the things confusing me were I do have an analytical aspect to myself and while this isn't dominant, it is a part of me and that didn't seem part of INFP? There was lots of talk in descriptions of INFP's being late and unstructured. And while I am a messy person (at home I am the messiest person in The Universe) and I wouldn't say I like, want or need structure, I am always punctual and people have often told me they perceive me as organised in terms of how I get things done. (I'm not organised inside) and it was really these kind of things that made me think... well... am I am INFJ then?!?!?!!?? People perceive me as being organised in the sense that if I have let's say reports to write or a project to do, it will be done in time and will be very detailed and folk will think "Oh, you're so organised!!" when I am very much not! Although other people will perceive me as being a silly little flighty thing who won't be able to cope with anything, so I just don't know!! And I will sometimes plan - like for a trip, I might plan considerably! But I think overall I am pretty childlike and free and spontaneous.
However, on how you have spoken on here, I would 100% be an INFP. That is fully how I am in conversation. And actually it explains a lot of why I was confused about whether I might be an INFJ as it is slightly counter intuitive (though it does make logical sense too!!)
Thanks again. :)
you & me are exactly the same
100% me. I'm so much of both
I like MBTI , but it is just a way of putting people in boxes. Like anything, some people will fit neater into these boxes than others. It’s about finding your best type.
I struggle with the same predicament. I’ve tested INFJ and INFP. The real kicker is that the percentages flip from 51%P/49%J to 51%J/49%P. I also have ADHD and am a recovering codependent. Those aspects make me wonder if I’m an INFJ with ADHD or an INFP with learned reactive empathy 😂.
I’ve gone to labeling it the Gemini effect (May baby👋) and say I’m an INFP/J (the newly discovered rarest type 😅 - I made that last part up) or a unicorn 🦄. My best friend is an INFJ and I have had conversations that resemble the one in the video but I also take on other’s emotions and try to mediate/counsel them to bring back joy. (Hate conflict and negative emotions but sometimes you have to stand your ground) I spark with ideas but also have to understand how it all connects in the bigger picture. Of course my ADHD will kick in and I’ll struggle to remember what connections I just found. Then, out of no where, I’ll be struck by the beauty of sun light peaking through the trees while a light breeze tingles my skin and lifts my heart as I walk down the street. Oh it’s sometimes fun to be me 😂.
very very very well observed, my closest friend is an infj (Im an infp) and this is exactly us. oddly she is much more in touch with her emotions and is very in touch with them, and open about expressing them. I follow suit, but little by little and am much more reticent. I have lots of ideas and observations and theories and learnings and she sits and listens and follows as I meander and bounce, and then will “Ni” me (which I love) with a direct straight insight that hits home. thanks for this great analysis.
This solved my problem which dozens of videos could not. Thank you so much.
I really love the way you simplify the understanding of INFJ personality type. I've been confused since like 2016 about what type am I? I started off being tested as an INFP, at that time I was too new to mbti and just categorised them on the basis of those 4 letters... I just used to think I don't feel so much, I must be a thinking type. I kind of subconsciously manipulated myself to answer the questions so that I get the results of a thinking type, lol. Then I considered myself as an INTP, idk if I really related to it or agreed to their characteristics just for the sake of relating to them. Since then, I played online quizzes multiple times and tried to fit in that personality type but none of it seemed relatable. I even considered myself an ISTP and ENTP for a while. All those times, I didn't even consider about the possibility of me being an INFJ because of the image that has been created for them, people who want to bring change to the world, the most talked about "rarity" of this type, selflessness that knows no limits, the letter J (being lazy and forgetful about daily stuffs) and many other "too great" characteristics. I got frustrated and stopped reading about mbti as I wasn't fitting anywhere. However, I didn't give up, I still played quizzes once in a while to get INFP or sometimes INFJ. Still, I didn't want to think that I might be an INFJ, but I didn't think of myself as an INFP too. Finally, this year when I got a lot of free time, I read about cognitive functions and deeply introspected. I imagined many scenarios and even tried to notice own's actions. After so much internal conflict I settled down as an INFJ. When I started reading a lot about it, I couldn't relate more. I wasn't very sure, I kept watching so many videos, read quora, websites, reddit and even downloaded an mbti book. I just couldn't be sure XD. Only after watching all of your videos I felt quite sure that wow I'm this, but now also I don't want to be sure. I keep questioning so much. And I don't think I'll be able to tell my type to anyone and confuse myself about the various chances of not being this one. Sorry for the length of the comment, I never shared this to anyone because I don't know any person who's enthusiastic about mbti.
HAHAHAHAH ohmygod, couldn't feel more related. I always thought of me as an infp but sometimes I just felt like I didn't really match the personality. Now that I've been researching a lil more it seems like I'm an intj, idk but not accepting we are intj's sounds like a thing an infj would do, not accept new information.
Diana MP wait how r u feeling the same thing as I am? I think I’m an INFP but I do most of what INFJ do. Idk.
@@dianamp6844 ikr? Sometimes it's so hard to figure out the type. It must be really Ni with inferior Se or Ne with inferior Si. INFPs and INTJs do have Fi and Te in common, that's why you may be confused. And it's not necessary too that one is using the functions in the same level as described.
@@keyrookey9033 yeah exactly. You still do think you're an INFP?
blithe cynic I think people who believe they are INFP is actually INFJ who live in denial that they were meant to help others in what MBTI says in both that INFP and INFJ capable of, thats why most INFP are confuse by it. They just need to figure that their life is more than overthinking everything and start doing the right thing at the right time. Does it make sense from what I’m trying to explain? I may be wrong but its just a guess from what I read and all.
As these are typical party-tests: my results depend on what I drank half an hour before doing the test:
Sober/Water: INFP,
Tea/Coffee: INFJ,
Red Wine: ENFJ,
Brandy/Whisky: ENFP
Rum: I told all the people waving test-sheets at me to get lost, and was happily and fast asleep half an hour later.
- That is somewhat weird, these drinks certainly mess with your mind.
Lol drunk me is so ENFP I relate to this so much
He’s right,
Honestly the main difference is really the detachment , INFJ go after systems ( summarizing The operation and patterns of the world in a nut shell) we like to know how ppl understand things , what do you feel about a certain thing, while INFP focus on more of how they believe over certain issue, they are more idealistic compassionate ppl in tune with their feelings comparatively.
Ppl !!! If anyone would watch CS Joseph’s video on INFJ and INFP difference
You will learn a lot😎 But be ready that you may get offended, He is brutally honest
You explained it so much better than anyone else. I keep going back to INFJ but doubt every time that i really am one. I’m definitely an INFJ. Thank you so so so much you’ve helped me a ton 😊
that‘s exactly how the conversation goes with my other friend who is an infj. The observation is epic!(i think the ability of seeing the core of objects is a common gift for infjs)
You do such a great job of explaining this! I’ve been unsure which I am for years. Now I’m sure I’m INFJ! Thank you 💗
I’m glad I could help, Janeen : )
How am I still unsure 😂 I wish someone could just tell me
Same 😂
I’m not even sure if I believe in this stuff
@@starmaster9105 It's highly speculative. You can't really quantify your traits in percentages and personality is more fluid or more rigid from one person to another. Also there are other external factors that affect your behavior, coping and reactions like upbringing, religion, traumas, etc. I have gotten many different results, but usually stay within the "diplomat"-types. However, there are many common traits among all of these personalities. Falling victim to the Barnum effect is a very big issue regarding typologies. Wether you usually fall within one of the four main categories or fluctuate between them, you can rest assured that you are a sensitive person with a potential to help others in some way. Beyond that, it's better to try to pay attention and observe yourself in different social situation to see how you react to things. You are the best blueprint to follow for yourself. Jung had many good ideas, but he was a very esoteric thinker, dabbling in the occult etc. Typology isn't exactly an empirical science. It's somewhere between a categorization of normal behavior patterns and a horoscope. Map out your own patterns and discuss them with a therapist instead of relying on what a stereotype on the internet based on a 100 year old theory says! (On another note, I'm definitely INFJ)
@@toxendon Yeah, he's so confused. What he says, contradicts everything I've read; what he calls INFJ-is actually INFP, and vice-versa.
Thankyou so much for this explanation video, Ren. I've struggled with knowing my true type for years. I seem to usually get the INFP result but also got INFJ when I first took it and have gotten INTP a few times. The greatest contradictions about being an INFP are that I don't have much difficulty expressing my ideas and emotions as the stereotype claims.
Secondly, when I compare myself to my - mostly - ISFJ wife, I don't appear to have Fe since I usually don't care about the "group" or "tribe" when it comes to making moral decisions that a very true and close to my identity. I do, although, want to make decisions that make everyone happy when it doesn't cross my moral boundry. Conversely, my ISFJ wife is usually running around and taking care of our friends and family when we're with them, assuring that everyone is happy with their food and have everything they need. Although, is this just Si+Fe since Si cares about needs which Fe projects out to others?
To give you a better idea, I'm also obsessed with typing people. Even strangers, people walking in the streets and just about anyone. I'm not sure if this is FiNe or NiFe.
Speaking of reaching out emotionally, as you mentioned, when I connect with someone which is usually because they want to connect with me I often get rebuked by my wife "for sharing my whole life or too much information"... I never understood this from her. I just might be sharing something that I'm doing or what's been happening in my life such as buying some furniture or just where we are by phone call. This usually seems to upset my wife. By the way, she does seem like an ISFP at times. As for myself, this behaviour doesn't at all seem like Fi, does it? Sharing so much information of which I don't really see as personal at all really seems like Fe, right?
Thanks for any words of wisdom in advance!
You sound very much like me and my best friend, who is an ISFJ. (I'm an INFP)
infp- youre being Ne
My husband thinks I share too much personal stuff as well (He is an ESTJ). I also don’t feel that what I’m sharing is that personal, usually it’s just an experience that connects with the topic at hand. If I share something personal I need to really feel that you care and can be trusted to not judge me harshly or share what I’m telling you with anyone else.
You should collab with Frank James (FJ) on TH-cam. You two would make a great mbti content ❤
That would be an honour but I think Frank might be too big at this point ^^
So FJ is real INFJ not INFP?😁
@@RensRoom come on! Put yourself out there and go talk to Frank! INFJs need to stick together! And good people are always willing to help other good people. Now go talk to Frank :-)
@@RensRoom definitely give it a shot you never know :)
They would disagree, making a collaboration a bit difficult, if one's wrong. I'm INFJ, have known this for 25 yrs-taken the tests countless times; and I think the OP [the video poster] is wrong.
My extroverted feeling comes out in my ability to read the emotional temperature of a room and my friendliness, but I seldom talk about feelings; in fact, I hate it-it makes me very uncomfortable. Instead, I'm constantly prattling on about ideas.
What the OP failed to even mention, which surprises me as it's the most obvious thing [the final letter]; is that a "J" extroverts judgement, i.e we judge the world-and we also DON'T shy away from confrontation. Quite the opposite. In fact, INFJ is almost what you'd get; if you weaponized INFP. "P's" introvert judgement i.e judge themselves-or don't/seldom express their judgement of others. A "J" will let you know; if they don't like you, to your face. They might even fight you, which a P probably won't do.
The true nature of an INFJ, is also to be kind; they're known as one of the kindest [google what I say yourself], whereas the true nature for INFP is to be sweet-again, do your own research. So yeah, he's actually pretty-wrong, and is clearly basing the video on theory [only the secondary function-being extroverted, you see...oookay then], NOT observation.
For the record, like myself; Frank is INFJ. If you think, based on this video you're INFJ; you're INFP. I know INFP's very well; they're basically my spirit animal. This video basically contradicts everything I've read, all the Frank James videos I've seen, and yes; I know the function stacks-and can tell you that for INFJ and INFP by heart-without even looking it up. He's wrong. Wrong wrong wrong [that alone, should tell you I'm a J].
I love this video! But I'm still conflicted in between choosing and being either an INFP of INFJ. I somehow still feel a connection towards both. Overall, I just want to find out what and who I am, and what it really am and what it means. But I'm going to just take my time and hopefully I'll find out the answer soon enough 😊
I think I see it the same way as you, Ren. I consider Ne as a “Conceptual Talker”, actively trying to feed the function, while Ni is more a “Conceptual listener and responder”. As an INFP, I find I can ask too many questions and generate too many topics for my INFJ friends to keep up with. I have to let them respond on their own time, instead of in the moment riffing off of ideas.
I see Fi as listening for the values of others. I always pay attention to what people prioritize and what they are asking for with their words and actions, and then I try to accommodate for each individual. I find I don’t need to actively ask, because when I pay enough attention, people will say either directly or indirectly what they are wanting. I can be blind to Fe though… for example when an FJ friend is making plans and trying to include me, as a way of creating connection, a lot of times I won’t think much of it, and I will think more about if I can make it or not… and If I don’t agree to do things together as planned, especially for an important event, it really damages my relationships with my FJ friends because their Fe needs are going unmet. (Something I am trying to be more cognizant of as someone with strong Perceiving preferences)
Interesting, but for me your 2 questions go undecided :) .Usually I express thoughts only when they are thought out and ready,rarely I do jump around. On the other hand I rarely share my emotions. But I do seem to pick the emotions in the room the moment I enter it. Sometimes it also seem that I can sooth troubled people, and adopt to the state of the people I am talking to. Sometimes complete strangers come to me and talk for hours.
I'm still heavily believing I am INFJ - it's pretty much confirmed at this point haha. Thanks, Ren. :)
No worries April! Indeed, I think you are correct ;)
No one is bad and no one is good. We are just a human. I'm an INFJ, but the condition on my country (Indonesia) doesn't allow me to be the real INFJ. It can be called as truly disrespectful and I won't that happen to me. So I need to be an INFP or maybe a bit E to please people. Meanwhile our background which form us to be INFJ or INFP are different and we should proud also happy with that.
This "there is no good or bad..." belief; makes you an INFP. A true INFJ; DEFINITELY judges between good, bad and trash art/music/people e.t.c. The video is dead-wrong, contradicts everything I've read, and if you want to see a video with someone who knows what they're talking about; watch Frank Jame's videos. He's spot-on; and says the OPPOSITE of this guy. What Renaud calls INFJ; is INFP, and vice-versa.
INFJ sounds like me .But I'm not a people pleaser .I help people from behind the scenes more.Im a loner.I have a very strong objection towards society and there foolishness.
This one is so crazy for sure, I've been mulling over this identity dilemma the past few weeks now. For example, how you said here an INFJ is possibly more open to share their feelings, but how easily that can be tricked with INFP dominant Fi function expressing itself if something turns out to go against their strong inner compass.
But now I can see what you mean, INFJ is seeking to make sense of feeling Fe externally, whereas an INFP makes sense of it's feeling internally and carries likely some solidarity with that, more able to be unwavered by the influence of others.
You are brilliant man! :) Just got into watching and taking in more MBTI/INFJ info again, and found my way back to you being active once more! :D Great videos as always Ren and lots of insights and "yeeees"-moments in the last videos
If your room is clean you’re an infj, if it’s a mess infp 😂
Do you think an INFJ might not emotionally open up to someone, because of hurt from past relationships or depression? I'm not sure if I'm INFJ, but I have noticed that past relationships have seriously affected my current relationships. It is something that has taken years to conform to. The desire to be more open with people is there, and it even pops out at times, but in a sense I have trained myself to just hold back more.
same as me
@@rika5977 Yes.
Fi-Si "negative" manifestations in INFJs, in my way of looking at it. Could be explained through various ways of course.
I have the same question, I think someone's approach to their and other people's feelings might have a lot to do with their environment and upbringing. Is it possible that there are INFJs that are reactive with feelings and try to avoid establishing them outwardly? 🤷♂️
I’ve noticed the self identified Infj’s grammar and/or spelling is usually perfect in the comments. Vs the Infp’s tend to have a lot of typos in their comments. Then they leave it for rest of us to decipher lol
I dont think so. In your understanding i could be either since i do share how i feel on particular things to build a deep connection but i dont do it with just anyone, only people i click with otherwise im reserved; same with intuition though i also often discuss ideas and different things in topics that interest me without shutting up cuz Ne comes up with so much stuff my thoughts are never linear. Your system of differentiating would not work in this case. What is more having Fi in how most people use the model means you are aware of your own feelings in great detail (whether you share or not), and Fe means being aware of group feelings (again whether u share ur own or not) in fact INFJ would have a hard time knowing exactly how they feel because they will be aware of others and that could cause confusion with their own feelings. Infp would have no such issue. So what you describe in building deep connection with the other person by sharing feelings is actually an INFP trying to evaluate whether the other person holds similar values to their own (which is important, and its an Fi type of valuation "do you share MY values" thats Fi come on.. ). In my opinuon it is easier to differentiate if you just try to notice who listens more. INFJ will on average be a better listener (to anything shared: feelings or ideas) due to Fe wanting to make the other person open up, and INFP would have the tendency to talk more if its about something they are passionate about and they see the other person is listening with interest.
Yes, he's dead wrong. What he calls INFP, is INFJ-and vice versa.
I find this all very interesting ...soon to be 63 , I've known since 12
I was much different than my friends and family. I wondered why I was the way I am , or that maybe something was wrong with me ...until recently , while stumbling upon a video on INFJ's which I identified with 85 - 90% of the characteristics ; then eventually took the Myers Briggs test which determined I was an INFP-T. However , after seeing a video on INFP's which focused more on the negative attributes being very honest with myself agreed with about 40 - 50% of what was being said ; I'm wondering if there are some ppl who are somewhere in the middle of the two , possessing a little of both ?
I consider myself to be very compassionate , tend to analyze information and abstract concepts from many angles and can go through different scenarios regarding a thing, am very passionate ; also having the ability to see into things in depth. In order not to come across haughty , I would have to provide examples in order to clarify i.e., instead will only list significant episodes starting at ages 5 , 12 , 21 , 39 and 62 ; I've always been extremely esoteric by nature , as well ; if that's a thing ?
Once I saw that the infp has an angry bucket that fills up before we explode, I knew that was my personality type 🤣
If you want people to tell you how they really feel you have to make them feel like they can trust you...and the best way to do that is to tell them something private about yourself to break the ice...I have no problem doing that if I feel it can help the other person...INFPs seems more secretive...I'm like...it's only feelings who cares about that...let's use them as a way to solve the problem causing us to have surten feelings in the first place 😬
Ahh this is so helpful....! And so succinctly put !
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My friendships only last because they reach out to me. INFP?
Hey Ren....Thanks for having me in your room. You wanna come to my room now? Nah, good to see you again. Hopefully all is well.
One of my best friends is an INFP.
Haha, all is well on my side, hope for you as well.
I like your videos, I think your speech is very relaxing. Also, I am INFJ too.
Thank you Selen!
Now I get it....After watching this I am definitely an INFP
i've never thought about it this way before and this is really useful, thank you!
Glad this helped!
so now I can see it very clear. INFJ. and I have a lot of friends xNFP’s and that’s exacly what happens. thank you!
I’m back here again, struggling to nail down my own thinking on personality type. I end up thinking I’m an infp instead of INFJ but remember that characteristics you described pushed me off of thinking that way.
Good video. I always doubt my type even though I'm already typed by professionals several years ago (because they didn't show or even give me the result, and only talk about it with my parents, the only thing why I'm still at least convinced I'm an INFJ is that one of therapist ever said to me "if you don't feel like you want to study, then don't. Because your brain not gonna absorb it" which pretty much indicate rebellious Ti is indeed in my function stacks). Also, what I notice is, since INFP a dom judging type, they'll have their own codes in order to life. It's been always like that with dom judging type based on my observation (INTP, ENFJ, etc).
Can you please elaborate how is Ti connected with being rebellious?
Great video
I was test as infp but once seen this video i now finally know that i am an infj.
I'm glad that my video was of help in this process. :)
Hello Ren,
Sorry if I'm wrong but from my observation, INFJ has welcoming expression when they interact with people but as for me INFP, I always showing a moody face so i will less interact with them until I'm ready with the suitable expression that I have prepared in mind. I'm not INFJ so I don't know how they process this but from my eyes, they are more altruistic.
I think you're right about this Rana.
Listening to your accent. Looking at your name. Hmmm. Challenging my preconceptions. Nice.
Haha. I'm French but I have some Italian ancestry. And I'm based in Ireland.
@@RensRoom My guess was right then since you got sort of Irish accent like the northern one.By the way,I’m enjoying your video content,it’s brilliant!
Thank you, I’m defenetly and INFJ. That was very helpful and easy to understand.
Wow as an infj i never realized i do the things mentioned in the video
That's because the video is wrong and contradicts ALL the literature and other videos out there; what he calls INFP, is INFJ-and vice-versa.
This was so helpful, thank you.
I thought I had figured out for first part (INFJ). Then I got to second part and agreed more with INFP 😂
OK, I'm 99% sure I'm INFJ now. TY
Very interesting again thank you Ren!
Very good and right on. (INFJ)
Thanks
Thanks Carol!
Ren, given your Ni, i can't but guess you must have some long term idea or vision for this channel (or thinking about it's long term vision). Is that something you would want to share?
Maybe it's personal..
Empowering INFJs and introverts in general and encouraging the development of a more philosophical mindset, I suppose.
@@RensRoom is someone who always has a long term idea / vision for things way more likely to be an INFJ than an INFP?
I am an eternally confused INFx :( and this video unfortunately didn't clarify further because while I am definitely much more reactive about emotional expressions and don't generally like to express them outwardly, I am also very reactive with ideas and it's very typical of me to come back with a unified synthesis that incorporates everything and they are more an amalgamation of everything that is known to me instead of something personal.
For me, for both feelings and ideas I need to trust the person which doesn't happen easily. I also think my behavior with feelings might have been a lot more influenced by my environment / upbringing than my behavior with ideas. So while I lean more INFJ, there isn't unfortunately a single video or text that clarifies it for me, and if there is, it's only a matter of time until I read something else that throws me back into doubt :(
@@gehdochnicht The topic of vision is a great one. I think I'll actually make a video on the topic, so stay tuned :)
@@RensRoom awesome!! looking forward :)
See in my case it's almost like I'm continuously many steps ahead of everything that is going on in the present. It would be extremely rare for me to start something without considering the implications of it for the future, how I want that future to be and how the path needs to be to get there. I think it's also related to my perfectionism. Whatever I do needs to not just work perfectly now but also should be careful to not limit how I want it to be in the future. All these considerations make me slower than other people to get started.
No idea if this is a difference between INFPs and INFJs but at least it seems like it might be something wired into the brain and not possibly affected by the environment or upbringing.
This is spot on in my experience as well. :)
This was really helpful. Thank you!
Spot on! Such a peering insight
Thanks so much this made it really clear for me! ^^
Hey Ren...good to see you. Like to listen to all your content. Somehow your voice and the way you explain your topic have a calming effect.....As for sorting out your personality is an INFP OR INFJ....... Is it true that if you tend to judge people instantly in a groupsession. And if you worry a LOT about ..WHAT IF ...nstead of what IS...You are probably An INFP........
Infj and infp are very different . One is based on human minds and one is based on human actions. Psychologist v nutritionist.
Actor v artist
😊 thanks, you cleared that up for me
Great content Renaud. Thank you for this.
question, would you say that a personality can continually drift between INFP and INFJ?
Johnny
Very nice video. I have been consistently leaning toward INFP for some time and this is another instance of me siding with the INFP description. I wonder if my functions set of Fi-Ne, particularly Ne, is what makes it hard for me to fully settle into my type.
What to do with moon on 8th house Scorpio moon and pisces rising. I am the scapegoat of my family. I have master nr 11-> Master nr 11= INFJ.
I am an covert narcissist?? -> because scapegoat.
8th house and scorpio -> rebirth and death.
Pisces rising= teacher job
Master nr 11 = teacher, artist
But why master nr 11?
Master nr 11= only disadvantages, chronic fatique, depression, workaholic, anxiety. What is good about master nr 11?
Pisces rising = deep depression
Also because I am the scapegoat I have fight, flight or freeze modus
Scorpio moon= fight
Pisces rising= flight
Master nr 11= mood swings -> where are the advantages???
Have I done sth wrong in my past life. Why I have to suffer from this. I just want a job which is silent but with my chronic fatique this unpossible to work 9 to 5. This shit world is full bullshit-> maldaptive dreamer I am too. Then I get fooled by my teacher, he said :" go to the crafts , when he saw that I have mood swings" -> leo in 6th house. I dont know who i am and suffer from Depression depersenalition and chronic fatigue. I just want to understand the world. I can see when somebody is lying. And why I have master nr 11-> only disadvantages. This is with intention.
Entj ?
Infp ?
Enfp ?
Intp ?
Infj ?
Pisces rising = chameleon life
-> infj ?
-> entj?
-> infp?
Infj= phoenix?
Born at 25.11.2000
25= neptune soul
What happens with suicide?
Nobody understands me from my family. I dont even understand me.
After my high school degree I realised I played for 21 years a role that I am not. When I was for the first 3 weeks there I asked constantly the teacher after ending the class questions. And these questions were only there that my teacher has saw me. i wanted to be seen. Why? lack of recognition from my parents or something.
is it bad luck or karma from past lives that i was born here???
I'm not sure I've ever met an INFJ before, or at least I've never recognized one in the wild. Is this why? So many people here online claim to be INFJ, and I can't help but wonder who you all are. I have a hard time understanding how you work. I've got too many feelings for my own good, and I'm always looking for new ideas, so if you're a fellow intuitive type, then why wouldn't you want to exchange ideas? Isn't that the good stuff?
Is this true?
I’ve been trying to decipher it for myself. I’ve taken multiple MBTI tests, and sometimes my prospective side is higher, and other times my judging side is higher (INF- stays more or less the same).
That being said, my prospective and judging functions, on average, between all the MBTI tests I’ve taken, are more or less averaged out at ~50% each with a +/- of 8 points given my psychological disposition of the particular day, and time I take the tests - if, that is true.
It’s got me to think, perhaps, when I’m healthy, I’m an INFJ….
When I’m not being healthy, I’m an INFP….
Not to knock one for the other. Just something I’m questioning might be a possibility in the MBTI ‘game’
In the enneagram model, people can be for instance, a 3 leaning on 4, or other kinds of nuances….
The cold-warm/interior-exterior analogy might be helpful, to me, to recognize when I’m being healthy or not - given the world we live in (esp. since I live in a major city)
In any case, I’d like a clean delineating mark to know for sure, and if not, at least acknowledgment that, the model isn’t god’s psychological bible (from the MBTI buffs/purists)
Thoughts?
Excellent comparison! I am an Infj and my brother(younger) is an infp. This video really holds true to our types. My question to you is, is there a greater likely hood that an infj younger brother would be an infp?
Not necessarily
No. I am the eldest in my family, both me and the sister next to me are INFPs. My third sister is an INTJ, and my brother who is the youngest and only boy is an ENTP
My Ti is very strong so I look like an INTJ
INTJ use Te more tho.
Infjs often think they are intjs. Infjs are often still super intelligent, if you have strong empathy, honestly you are probably not an intj…..
I still don't know if I'm INFJ or INFP. My childhood trauma has muddled the line. I test as an INFP but when taking the test, I don't know if it's my personality type or my trauma response answering the questions. I think my authentic self is an INFJ but I'm not certain.
Question Ren. Can you tell the difference between INFP and INFJ by their comments?
It depends. Sometimes yes it's quite easy, especially if the comment exceeds a certain length and has enough content.
@@RensRoom I did not read it correctly at first and thought you meant that you can tell if it exceeds a certain length it must be an INFP rather than INFJ. It would make sense though, since with Ne/Si descriptions are usually longer and more detailed, while Ni aims for concise
@@PowerRedBullTypology ok. what he said
@@RensRoom thank you for your reply always appreciated btw
@@PowerRedBullTypology Really? Then I guess that makes me an INFP because my writing is often long and detailed. It stems from my desire to be clear and understood. But that's an interesting perspective.
This was sooo helpful
With INFJs being able to comfortable expressing feelings, would that apply more so to older healthy INFJs as young or unhealthy INFJ may have not have had a lot of development of Fe?
Well I’m an INFP and I disagree with your assessment. The difference is that INFJs are more conflict averse and more externally compliant than INFPs.
When you observe how he talks and gestures on the video. And analyse his behavior.
Awesome!!!
This confirms it then... I'm an infj
First like? What???
Ren, I love your videos.
Yes I think you were. Well done! Haha. Glad you like my content :)
still not sure if I'm INFP or INFJ. Is it possible that an INFP 9w1 can appear as an INFJ? Think I am INFP, but even though I live more in my own feelings, not as much intuition, i "show" a lot of extraverted feeling, can this be the nine? Also, the more comfortable I am, the less emotion and the more intuition I show
I'd try to help you out but I think it'd be safer if you watched some more of Renaud's vids or some other INFJ's videos, or just spoke to another INFJ/INFP.
Hi Mira, can you describe a little bit more what you mean by showing a lot of extraverted feeling?
Yes of course, I make everyone feel comfortable, seen and listened to, I genuinely care for others, and want to understand them, I often put the focus on others instead of myself in conversation (don’t know if this is because I’m actually a bit shy and don’t want to be vulnerable), I can fit with almost every kind of person, i laugh when someone make a bad joke because I want them to feel funny🤓, and I often see others point of view, people also view me as pretty extroverted at times, however, I can “turn off” my warmth and my focus on others when I feel like it, and with people I’m super comfortable with, I tend to live more in my own feelings, and “care” less about theirs. I’m only 19, so maybe I just need more time to understand myself;))
Starting the video, hopefully I can find out which one I am!
Edit: Yeah I still don’t know :(
Having or not having Si should be a huge indicator
@@timefortee ok, lemme see what that means :)
what does it mean to me more reactive with emotions ? like smile, talk about yourself ,: you know I felt that blabla ?
I'm an INFP and my twin is an INFJ
i avoid talkin about feelings at all costs not bc im insecure but bc i think i can give too much of expression or come on too strong and scare the person away. so yep, infp. however i thought i was infj for a loooong time 🤣
Im quite sure im am infj with a little touch of infp hehehe
I wanna ask, if someone who has an alter ego (not in a clinical condition), is the alter ego have something to do about its mbti? Like having a different one?
You'd have to tell me what you mean exactly by alter ego first :)
Something like Beyonce's, if you ever hear her say about her alter ego which makes her brave on stage, even though her real personality is shy, she even gives her alter ego a name. Or Jennifer Lawrence who has an alter ego that will only appear when she is on vacation.
Another thought. Was our President Nixon an INFJ?
I don’t know enough about him, Heather. But I’m pretty sure he’s seen as a T type.
If people don't know if they're INFP or J why not just take the test?
Easy to find out. Find a infj-Infp couple. U will realize the difference. 🤣 And the similarities.
I’m infj then but I’m not sure if I even believe in Myers Briggs can you put a personality in a category?
Personality can change
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