Links for this episode 06:56 Vaccine coverage and mortality, Hong Kong (MMWR) 08:10 Better antivirals coming 09:34 post-holiday infections coming 14:27 Kids behind on routine vaccinations (Politico) 16:20 Immune response to booster 5 to 11 year olds (Pfizer) 17:42 Children and vaccination (AAP) 18:09 Hospitalization of 5 to 11 year olds (MMWR) 19:44 Test using breath samples (FDA) 25:23 Influenza virus adenovirus 26:22 RS virus coinfections (Lancet) 29:13 Booster crystal ball (TWiV 890) 29:40 Bivalent vaccine (Res Square) 34:53 Bivalent vaccine in mice (bioRxiv) 37:26 Intramuscular Evusheld (NEJM) 42:03 Early COVID viral phase guidelines 44:59 Early inflamatory phase 45:45 Long Covid (PASC) Post Acute Sequelae of SARS CoV-2 infection 46:02 Global PASC (J Inf Dis) Looking into PASC and viral persistence 46:53 Fatigue and memory problems most common PASC symptoms Dr Griffin s treatment guide 47:11 How to contribute 47:44 Listener questions 47:50 John Long COVID needs trials re viral persistence 49:27 Kevin Would multiple antivirals make sense 50:43 Abby Would Paxlovid prevent long COVID Aspirin therapy for long covid 52:15 rapid test false negatives with positive symptoms Audio Timestamps by Jolene Thanks
Thank you both so very very much. I’m just an old layman in flyover country that you have helped stay reasonably sane throughout this pandemic. Pax tecum.
Thank you, Dr. Griffin. I was one of the ones who had a many-week struggle to get Evusheld. I am astute enough with the computer to check the HHS Provider site, but that provides no contact information and clearly says patients are not to contact providers. I did anyway. I contacted any doctor associated with any of those sites whom I was seeing, but my physicians didn't know the process for getting it any more than I did. I contacted public health authorities in my area that had been hubs for vaccination. I switched to Rob Relyea's site when it became available. I talked to switchboard operators, pharmacists, Covid center nurses or administrators, infusion clinics that were offering therapeutics on the theory that perhaps they were administering Evusheld, too, although it wasn't an infusion. It was frustrating for those of us who had been sheltering, sometimes more distanced from our families than we wanted. I usually had to begin conversations by spelling Evusheld, then explaining what it was, by which time my hopes had sunk. Finally, I found a helpful pharmacist at a providing hospital who forwarded me the form (only a checklist!) for a prescribing physician to fill out and submit, after which he or she could call and make me an appointment. It still took three weeks to find a willing physician. One agreed, but requested all records from my rheumatologist, which included my reaction to my last previous vaccination: serum sickness and rheumatoid arthritis and several other issues subsequent to that. I had cognitive fog, exhaustion so profound I could barely dress, etc. I had to drop out of my position with a volunteer community symphonic orchestra and indeed could no longer play the violin. Jogging with my dogs was impossible. I needed a cane for more than two years. He advised me just to keep doing what I was doing instead. Finally, although he was not in-house as I had been told was necessary, my rheumatologist called and secured an appointment. My story is not unique.
Thank you Dr. Griffin for your obvious compassion that comes across with us with long covid. There are some people that just get angry when presented with frustration from those of us that have it. Just seeing your understanding about our frustration goes such a long way in feeling heard. I am HORRIFIED that I have gotten better medical advice through reddit than through most of the long list of doctors I have seen over the past 6 months.
Is it my imagination or has Dr. Griffin visibly aged over the past 2 years? I can't even imagine how stressful it must be to be a physician during this historic pandemic. Hats off to Dr. Griffin and all the medical community that have struggled through this disaster....
I feel that! Yes... the care providers have had the short end of the stick everywhere on the globe and largely this is an under the surface part of the iceberg that many are just refusing to acknowledge. 🙏
Hmm, I really thought vaccines stop you from getting the sicknesd. What has changed. What is the scientific explanation for merely making symptoms lighter. It seems every time the virus or vaccines doesn't do something according to their narrative they simply change the definition and manipulate the data.
The rapid tests are definitely screwy. During the omicron surge, my wife and I, along with our kids, all got sick. We all started with symptoms on the same day, with our (double vaxxed) kids having more severe symptoms than my wife and I (triple vaxxed). We used daily rapid tests for a while. The kids tested positive immediately, took my wife and I five days or so to test positive. By the time we tested positive, the kids tested negative. Then we kept testing positive for another 10 days or so. Nobody’s symptoms progressed beyond how they were when we first came down with it, so maybe the kids weren’t farther along than we were when we all got sick. Go figure.
@@gleeful77 I had a bad cough for about two weeks before my wife persuaded me to go to hospital. They tested me and told me that I was quite seriously ill. I was on oxygen for the duration of my stay. I had been vaccinated and had a booster, but that was all with the Chinese CoronaVac, which didn't work well against omicron.
@@gleeful77 Thank you. Interestingly my wife also tested positive for COVID and stayed with me in hospital, but her symptoms were more like a mild cold. I did get an oxygen concentrator to use at home, which I needed for my first week back home as my oxygen levels kept dropping to under 90 percent. The worst part about my hospital stay was having blood samples taken every day. By the seventh day the nurse was having problems finding a place to to draw blood.
With the usual consistent posting date, I was starting to get worried that Daniel was ill. Messed up my Saturday morning not being able to listen to Daniel while going grocery shopping. ;)
I recently got COVID and I think it took less than a day from exposure to symtoms. Also, I blame the transit system and will attest to the fact that it's a good place to catch COVID. I spent 3 hours in the NYC bus + subway to do taxes. That night, I felt chilly and went to sleep chilly. The only time I felt like this was when I got the J&J vax, except that one made me real cold for like 1 hour when I was trying to fall asleep with tons of blankets. lol Anways, on Tuesday I woke up normal, but with slighly irritated sinus so I took a home test. No one on my Sunday Easter party was positive so I'm guessing I was infected on Monday and symptomed that night! In the past, I had taken 3 T-Detects (post Wuhan/Delta/Omicron) and all were NEG. Though the Wuhan test would have been over a year after since the test didn't exist. And outside of "lockdown" I've spent 80% of my meatime at restaurants, even places with singing. So maybe it IS getting "fitter". Or that simply spending 3 hours in large tin cans during business hours results in high exposure during NYC BA2 surge? Anyways, just thought I'd add yet another "annecdote". So be careful out there if you're "compromised". I figured I was immune or "highly resistant" to infection. But yeah...so eventually fittness evolution or not, I caught it! :P
@@mikemichaels6753 Data seems to suggest like 40% asymptomatic and 15% uninfected close contacts. So it's "nothing" to more than half pre-vaccine. Maybe variants change that slightly no doubt. I personally only had dry cough for like 2 days with just minor sinus congestion in beginning. I did get J&J but prolly didn't reduce it all that much. Nothing I wouldn't have just popped cough drops for like when my cough was worse for common colds. HOWEVER, check out this unscientific test I did. I did moderate intensity aerobics but measured my heart rate to be high intesnisty. Though I didn't "feel" any different. The next day I did it again and it went back to moderate heart rate. So it's a crude test and there could be other factors, but maybe it meant my blood oxygen capacity was reduced for at least that short period? I'm skinny. If I was obese like some of the high risk ppl, you can imagine that little deprivation of oxygen at "peak illness" may cascade into serious issues. Then you add in potential genetic succeptiblity (it's random) and it multiplies your chance of dying. So there are some people who should fear this...fortunately it's a minority, true.
Yeah, I've done nothing to keep from getting covid other than getting vaxxed(but not boosted) and almost everyone I know has had it but I haven't, sooner or later I suppose I will but we'll see.
@@missano3856 I think there are 2 main ways you are naturally resistant against infection: Innate immunity and T-Cells. High innate will result in low load despite high exposure. I think this is where I fit in. And having the "correct" T-Cells tend to "abort" the infection, like uninfected close contacts.
As much as we want to act like we don’t need to quarantine or we need to treat this like the flu. We still don’t have vaccines for small children. Also, immunocompromised are millions of people. I think it must be a family decision. I agree with Dr Griffin, just make smart decisions. There is no reason why we can’t utilize new methods we’ve learned work to combat large community spread of all respiratory virus.
i will use my 😷 , my body my choice. same as in the 80 during HIV learning that it was sexually transmited, became common. use a preservative. why this choice of a simple mask has become such an intense 😳 social discussion?
@@luismatheu4226 Yup, my retail workplace probably got better actual mask use(for what ever it's worth) when masks were just provided rather than required but there is a subset of wicked people who get the warm fuzzies from words like mandatory and prohibited.
Thankyou. Sometimes I think about all the healthcareproffessionals that died during this pandemic. That makes you very sad. They were very brave in the beginning of this pandemic. No vaccines at that time. Its so out of order that the staff in the hospital just dies. I will never forget that.
The nature and precise aetiology of long COVID remains ill‐defined, and no diagnostic criteria currently exist. A recent systematic review identifies 55 distinct symptoms associated with this syndrome. Ref: Long COVID: sustained and multiplied disadvantage (MJA, Mar 2022) Ref: A clinical case definition of post COVID-19 condition by a Delphi consensus (WHO, Oct 2021)
When I assess my risk for going maskless, dining in etc I am always taking into account the presence of young children. I consider myself much more at risk around kids due to this low vaccination rate.
about long covid - I would like to hear more about that meta-analysis of 40 articles selected from the 4500 - especially the prevalence and risk factors.
Regarding the question of why isolate to limit transmission, the biggest remaining reason is Long Covid. It appears to be a risk for everyone, it is a much larger risk than a bad acute case outcome and we have no proven way to prevent or treat it. Please take Long Covid into account!
What is the incidence of long covid developing in vaxxed versus unvaxxed? Is transmission lower in acute phase of infection in vaxxed patients? I think it is but I am not sure. Do reinfected survivor patients transmit at a lower rate? What is their chance of developing long covid versus unvaxxed and vaxxed? A lot of questions so I need to re-watch your covid videos. P.S. Your channel is great!
@@tunneling-nanotubes I have seen studies that suggest that Long Covid in the vaccinated is less prevalence, has less serious symptoms and is of shorter duration than in the unvaccinated. Omicron appears to be milder because immunity from previous infection and vaccination affords some protection. Like for like, those infected with Omicron appear to get Long Covid at the same rates as with previous variants. The observation those more infected with Omicron do not produce antibodies, suggest that the virus is cleared by the innate immune system and by the Th1 pathway triggering the production of Cytotoxic T cells.
Interesting data from the Netherlands today, out of some 230,000 health care workers infected with Covid, just over 500 still have long Covid and are petitioning for extended unemployment relief. That's not ideal, but it's honestly not a high percentage.
Many of initial deaths seem to be a culling. But there was another percentage that was made up of those you would never have thought were at risk. I would like to know what fraction were basically considered to be healthy who were part of those who died, or got very sick and recovered, and those who got long covid.
Does anyone remember the '68 Hong Kong flu nightmare outbreak? Had dangerously high fever, all the GI track issues; fainting/blacking out & delirium for days (which continued to last for weeks at a "milder level" after barely recovering) - Was so terrified as a then 7 year old that even after recovering I refused to go to sleep due to the continuing "milder" delirium-like states that happened right before falling asleep. There are no words to accurately describe delirium other than a combo between the worst possible LSD trip & psychotic state ever... I've concluded that there are two ways to make someone confess to anything: Give them a drug that mimics delirium and/or a maximum pitocin drip...😉
Supposedly some intelligence agency discovered that the best "truth serum" was a combo of cannabis, alcohol and methamphetamine, I think they were just hanging out in a trailer park tho.
I don't know what you can conclude from the fact that 90% of the children who were hospitalized were unvaccinated. Over that time period, probably 90% of the children in the general population were also unvaccinated.
Thirty percent of pediatric cases were hospitalized. 90 percent of those were unvaxxed. That means 27 out of 100 unvaxxed were hospitalized. 10 percent of hospitalized were vaxxed. That means 3 out of 100 were vaxxed. Am I doing this wrong?
@@jdetar5304 It doesn't address the question. If 90% of the children in the general population were unvaccinated, then the fact that 90% of the hospitalized children were unvaccinated would mean that the vaccine had no discernable effect in reducing hospitalizations. This particular data point does not make the case for vaccinating children. (I have every reason to believe the vaccine *is* effective in children - just not from this data point.)
Their are many different contributing factors to getting covid, its not just people weren't vaccinated so they died, this kinda narrative is what draws people to question the vaccination. The fact that we have separated to groups of people the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, when there are major underlining issues that come with that is abysmal
Ya I would like to not have my Immuno Comp. spouse get exposed every other week by infected people rolling into his office all the time. Would be nice if you actually get Evusheld.
I have to admit I was a bit bewildered by Dr. Griffin's comment at the 14:00 min mark stating Vaccines won't keep you from getting infected. As in Zero percent ? I could understand if he said don't count on them for it, but Zero Percent? How about Small pox or measles vaccines, same thing?
Rather tragic how infected elderly patients were introduced into nursing homes. Indeed, nursing homes were forced to accept infected individuals. No wonder that half the mortalities seen in NY occurred in nursing homes.
Many people ask why fully vaccinated people would quarantine or choose to wear maks. Simple answer... vaccines reduce the risk of infection, symptoms, mild dease, hospitalisation and death but they don't prevent it. I continue to wear masks to reduce risk because I enjoy not feeling sick. The same applies to colds and flu. We rarely masked prior to 2020, but now that masking has become an acceptable norm, I and many others will continue wearing masks indoors in crowds.
Yeah, but the point is that you never bothered with masks before. It's just that now, most people are "traumatized" by the pandemic so it became a "norm" to mask at the expense of not showing you face, breathing volumn reduction, etc. OK speaking for myself...I recently had COVID and the main symptom was 2 days of dry cough arround 20 minute intervals. Like everyone else pre-pandemic, I would never have even considered "testing" and woulda just bought cough drops and paid no more mind to the illness. And I only got the J&J. So I know it doesn't exaclty work this way, but for argument's sake, since it's 66% effective, if I was unvaccinated...maybe it will be a cough for 6 days. If you told me in 2020 I can mask for 2 years to prevent a potential cough for 6 days...I'd laugh in your face. And people have gotten bed-ridden flus like every year and they still have close personal contact and use facial expressions and hug strangers, the list goes on. I think most people will get over the pandemic. There will still be the compromised as well as genetically sensitive (long covid?) or whatever that will feel the need to be extra careful. But give it another year and I think most people will forget about these precautions. It's already happening in pockets.
Lol do you know physer released its papers by court order. And they say the vax don’t do anything . That’s science and documented. Wake up get facts or live like a scared rabbit.
hi to the Twiv dudes... I will like to hear on UTR s of viruses and/or of Sarscov2. my Grandma use to say..."may be you are looking to much on the wrong spot!" when looking for lost car keys
"I don't care about .." " I don't get ..." constant interruption by Racaniello. Why is that needed? He has proven so many times that he does not understand epidemiology of COVID so what is the point of allowing him so much bullying? Why is dr Griffin constantly yielding to this person? Can you make video yourself with some diagrams. In either case there is nothing done here but the sheer talk. Is that so valuable to keep getting interrupted by annoying Racaniello instead of making your own video?
hi to the Twiv dudes... I will like to hear on UTR s of viruses and/or of Sarscov2. my Grandma use to say..."may be you are looking to much on the wrong spot!" when looking for lost car keys
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Links for this episode
06:56 Vaccine coverage and mortality, Hong Kong (MMWR)
08:10 Better antivirals coming
09:34 post-holiday infections coming
14:27 Kids behind on routine vaccinations (Politico)
16:20 Immune response to booster 5 to 11 year olds (Pfizer)
17:42 Children and vaccination (AAP)
18:09 Hospitalization of 5 to 11 year olds (MMWR)
19:44 Test using breath samples (FDA)
25:23 Influenza virus adenovirus
26:22 RS virus coinfections (Lancet)
29:13 Booster crystal ball (TWiV 890)
29:40 Bivalent vaccine (Res Square)
34:53 Bivalent vaccine in mice (bioRxiv)
37:26 Intramuscular Evusheld (NEJM)
42:03 Early COVID viral phase guidelines
44:59 Early inflamatory phase
45:45 Long Covid (PASC)
Post Acute Sequelae of SARS CoV-2 infection
46:02 Global PASC (J Inf Dis)
Looking into PASC and viral persistence
46:53 Fatigue and memory problems most common PASC symptoms
Dr Griffin s treatment guide
47:11 How to contribute
47:44 Listener questions
47:50 John Long COVID needs trials re viral persistence
49:27 Kevin Would multiple antivirals make sense
50:43 Abby Would Paxlovid prevent long COVID
Aspirin therapy for long covid
52:15 rapid test false negatives with positive symptoms
Audio Timestamps by Jolene Thanks
Thanks for this!
You the real MVP
If it's Griffin... I'm ah-listenen'... GRATEFUL to TWiV!!! 😁🤩
Thank you Vincent and Dr. Daniel! We learn so much from TWIV and appreciate the extra time you take to help us understand latest research on Covid.
Thank you both so very very much. I’m just an old layman in flyover country that you have helped stay reasonably sane throughout this pandemic. Pax tecum.
"The plural of anecdote is not data". That's absolutely brilliant, the perfect ending to this show and a good example of why I love these guys!
The other version of that saying is "The plural of anecdote IS data".
Thank you, Dr. Griffin. I was one of the ones who had a many-week struggle to get Evusheld. I am astute enough with the computer to check the HHS Provider site, but that provides no contact information and clearly says patients are not to contact providers. I did anyway. I contacted any doctor associated with any of those sites whom I was seeing, but my physicians didn't know the process for getting it any more than I did. I contacted public health authorities in my area that had been hubs for vaccination. I switched to Rob Relyea's site when it became available. I talked to switchboard operators, pharmacists, Covid center nurses or administrators, infusion clinics that were offering therapeutics on the theory that perhaps they were administering Evusheld, too, although it wasn't an infusion. It was frustrating for those of us who had been sheltering, sometimes more distanced from our families than we wanted. I usually had to begin conversations by spelling Evusheld, then explaining what it was, by which time my hopes had sunk. Finally, I found a helpful pharmacist at a providing hospital who forwarded me the form (only a checklist!) for a prescribing physician to fill out and submit, after which he or she could call and make me an appointment. It still took three weeks to find a willing physician. One agreed, but requested all records from my rheumatologist, which included my reaction to my last previous vaccination: serum sickness and rheumatoid arthritis and several other issues subsequent to that. I had cognitive fog, exhaustion so profound I could barely dress, etc. I had to drop out of my position with a volunteer community symphonic orchestra and indeed could no longer play the violin. Jogging with my dogs was impossible. I needed a cane for more than two years. He advised me just to keep doing what I was doing instead. Finally, although he was not in-house as I had been told was necessary, my rheumatologist called and secured an appointment. My story is not unique.
Thank you Dr. Griffin for your obvious compassion that comes across with us with long covid. There are some people that just get angry when presented with frustration from those of us that have it. Just seeing your understanding about our frustration goes such a long way in feeling heard. I am HORRIFIED that I have gotten better medical advice through reddit than through most of the long list of doctors I have seen over the past 6 months.
My all time favourite source for reliable clinical information regarding Covid19 💛 many thanks Dr D and V 💛
Thankyou Dr Griffin you restore my faith in mankind and thankyou also Vincent for introducing us to such amazing knowledgeable podcasts🙏👍
Please tell me how to find out which pharmacies inmy area has Paxlovid.
Is it my imagination or has Dr. Griffin visibly aged over the past 2 years? I can't even imagine how stressful it must be to be a physician during this historic pandemic. Hats off to Dr. Griffin and all the medical community that have struggled through this disaster....
Lol you must be a fake account. Lol
I feel that! Yes... the care providers have had the short end of the stick everywhere on the globe and largely this is an under the surface part of the iceberg that many are just refusing to acknowledge. 🙏
For sure, hats off to Dr. Griffin but go check out the mirror. We've all aged these past two years.
Both Daniel and Vincent were highly energetic today. The power of the Incubator was flowing between them. 🌞
👍 Thanks VR and DG
Hmm, I really thought vaccines stop you from getting the sicknesd. What has changed. What is the scientific explanation for merely making symptoms lighter.
It seems every time the virus or vaccines doesn't do something according to their narrative they simply change the definition and manipulate the data.
Thank you.
Hahahah ! “The plural of anecdote is not data!” I am going to use that one!
The rapid tests are definitely screwy. During the omicron surge, my wife and I, along with our kids, all got sick. We all started with symptoms on the same day, with our (double vaxxed) kids having more severe symptoms than my wife and I (triple vaxxed). We used daily rapid tests for a while. The kids tested positive immediately, took my wife and I five days or so to test positive. By the time we tested positive, the kids tested negative. Then we kept testing positive for another 10 days or so. Nobody’s symptoms progressed beyond how they were when we first came down with it, so maybe the kids weren’t farther along than we were when we all got sick.
Go figure.
I had diarrhea for a week after I was home from being hospitalised with COVID-19 omicron. The skin of my mouth was also peeling and sore.
That is bizarre! So sorry you had to experience that.
@@gleeful77 I had a bad cough for about two weeks before my wife persuaded me to go to hospital. They tested me and told me that I was quite seriously ill. I was on oxygen for the duration of my stay. I had been vaccinated and had a booster, but that was all with the Chinese CoronaVac, which didn't work well against omicron.
@@peterjf7723 I’m glad you are better!
@@gleeful77 Thank you. Interestingly my wife also tested positive for COVID and stayed with me in hospital, but her symptoms were more like a mild cold. I did get an oxygen concentrator to use at home, which I needed for my first week back home as my oxygen levels kept dropping to under 90 percent. The worst part about my hospital stay was having blood samples taken every day. By the seventh day the nurse was having problems finding a place to to draw blood.
@@peterjf7723 so scary…!
With the usual consistent posting date, I was starting to get worried that Daniel was ill.
Messed up my Saturday morning not being able to listen to Daniel while going grocery shopping. ;)
The audio version was available then at
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@@lesfaby8997 thanks - good to know.
I was wondering too, glad everything seems ok though. He does travel a lot
I do it Saturday night while doing dance practice
I recently got COVID and I think it took less than a day from exposure to symtoms. Also, I blame the transit system and will attest to the fact that it's a good place to catch COVID. I spent 3 hours in the NYC bus + subway to do taxes. That night, I felt chilly and went to sleep chilly. The only time I felt like this was when I got the J&J vax, except that one made me real cold for like 1 hour when I was trying to fall asleep with tons of blankets. lol Anways, on Tuesday I woke up normal, but with slighly irritated sinus so I took a home test. No one on my Sunday Easter party was positive so I'm guessing I was infected on Monday and symptomed that night!
In the past, I had taken 3 T-Detects (post Wuhan/Delta/Omicron) and all were NEG. Though the Wuhan test would have been over a year after since the test didn't exist. And outside of "lockdown" I've spent 80% of my meatime at restaurants, even places with singing. So maybe it IS getting "fitter". Or that simply spending 3 hours in large tin cans during business hours results in high exposure during NYC BA2 surge? Anyways, just thought I'd add yet another "annecdote". So be careful out there if you're "compromised". I figured I was immune or "highly resistant" to infection. But yeah...so eventually fittness evolution or not, I caught it! :P
It’s nothing! Look at facts not liars on you tube. Or don’t and live in fear of a ghost in your life .
@@mikemichaels6753 Data seems to suggest like 40% asymptomatic and 15% uninfected close contacts. So it's "nothing" to more than half pre-vaccine. Maybe variants change that slightly no doubt. I personally only had dry cough for like 2 days with just minor sinus congestion in beginning. I did get J&J but prolly didn't reduce it all that much. Nothing I wouldn't have just popped cough drops for like when my cough was worse for common colds.
HOWEVER, check out this unscientific test I did. I did moderate intensity aerobics but measured my heart rate to be high intesnisty. Though I didn't "feel" any different. The next day I did it again and it went back to moderate heart rate. So it's a crude test and there could be other factors, but maybe it meant my blood oxygen capacity was reduced for at least that short period? I'm skinny. If I was obese like some of the high risk ppl, you can imagine that little deprivation of oxygen at "peak illness" may cascade into serious issues. Then you add in potential genetic succeptiblity (it's random) and it multiplies your chance of dying. So there are some people who should fear this...fortunately it's a minority, true.
Yeah, I've done nothing to keep from getting covid other than getting vaxxed(but not boosted) and almost everyone I know has had it but I haven't, sooner or later I suppose I will but we'll see.
@@missano3856 I think there are 2 main ways you are naturally resistant against infection: Innate immunity and T-Cells.
High innate will result in low load despite high exposure. I think this is where I fit in. And having the "correct" T-Cells tend to "abort" the infection, like uninfected close contacts.
Ty for the update
Y'all are FINALLY looking into long covid. It's about time. There are many of us that have been suffering and being told they are crazy by doctors.
As much as we want to act like we don’t need to quarantine or we need to treat this like the flu. We still don’t have vaccines for small children. Also, immunocompromised are millions of people. I think it must be a family decision. I agree with Dr Griffin, just make smart decisions. There is no reason why we can’t utilize new methods we’ve learned work to combat large community spread of all respiratory virus.
i will use my 😷 , my body my choice.
same as in the 80 during HIV learning that it was sexually transmited, became common. use a preservative.
why this choice of a simple mask has become such an intense 😳 social discussion?
Because no one forced you to use a condom(not the government anyway).
@@missano3856 how ever they offered them for free and freedom. And Free choices
@@luismatheu4226 Yup, my retail workplace probably got better actual mask use(for what ever it's worth) when masks were just provided rather than required but there is a subset of wicked people who get the warm fuzzies from words like mandatory and prohibited.
Thankyou. Sometimes I think about all the healthcareproffessionals that died during this pandemic. That makes you very sad. They were very brave in the beginning of this pandemic. No vaccines at that time. Its so out of order that the staff in the hospital just dies. I will never forget that.
Govt is guilty of criminally negligent Manslaughter. As sometime with zero legal background it would appear to be a no brainer, but what do I know?
any chance for nasal spray of policlonals IgAs?
what's the case definition for long Covid?
The nature and precise aetiology of long COVID remains ill‐defined, and no diagnostic criteria currently exist. A recent systematic review identifies 55 distinct symptoms associated with this syndrome.
Ref: Long COVID: sustained and multiplied disadvantage (MJA, Mar 2022)
Ref: A clinical case definition of post COVID-19 condition by a Delphi consensus (WHO, Oct 2021)
@@gribbler1695 thanks
When I assess my risk for going maskless, dining in etc I am always taking into account the presence of young children. I consider myself much more at risk around kids due to this low vaccination rate.
Your being lied too. And the facts are available today , there’s no more guessing. This is a lie!
Lol.
about long covid - I would like to hear more about that meta-analysis of 40 articles selected from the 4500 - especially the prevalence and risk factors.
It’s all nonsense. Long Covid was debunked already!
32:39 Hear our favorite New Yorker say, “ Foggedda bout it! “
Regarding the question of why isolate to limit transmission, the biggest remaining reason is Long Covid. It appears to be a risk for everyone, it is a much larger risk than a bad acute case outcome and we have no proven way to prevent or treat it. Please take Long Covid into account!
What is the incidence of long covid developing in vaxxed versus unvaxxed?
Is transmission lower in acute phase of infection in vaxxed patients? I think it is but I am not sure.
Do reinfected survivor patients transmit at a lower rate? What is their chance of developing long covid versus unvaxxed and vaxxed?
A lot of questions so I need to re-watch your covid videos.
P.S. Your channel is great!
@@tunneling-nanotubes I have seen studies that suggest that Long Covid in the vaccinated is less prevalence, has less serious symptoms and is of shorter duration than in the unvaccinated.
Omicron appears to be milder because immunity from previous infection and vaccination affords some protection. Like for like, those infected with Omicron appear to get Long Covid at the same rates as with previous variants.
The observation those more infected with Omicron do not produce antibodies, suggest that the virus is cleared by the innate immune system and by the Th1 pathway triggering the production of Cytotoxic T cells.
Interesting data from the Netherlands today, out of some 230,000 health care workers infected with Covid, just over 500 still have long Covid and are petitioning for extended unemployment relief. That's not ideal, but it's honestly not a high percentage.
Many of initial deaths seem to be a culling. But there was another percentage that was made up of those you would never have thought were at risk. I would like to know what fraction were basically considered to be healthy who were part of those who died, or got very sick and recovered, and those who got long covid.
Does anyone remember the '68 Hong Kong flu nightmare outbreak? Had dangerously high fever, all the GI track issues; fainting/blacking out & delirium for days (which continued to last for weeks at a "milder level" after barely recovering) - Was so terrified as a then 7 year old that even after recovering I refused to go to sleep due to the continuing "milder" delirium-like states that happened right before falling asleep. There are no words to accurately describe delirium other than a combo between the worst possible LSD trip & psychotic state ever... I've concluded that there are two ways to make someone confess to anything: Give them a drug that mimics delirium and/or a maximum pitocin drip...😉
Supposedly some intelligence agency discovered that the best "truth serum" was a combo of cannabis, alcohol and methamphetamine, I think they were just hanging out in a trailer park tho.
I don't know what you can conclude from the fact that 90% of the children who were hospitalized were unvaccinated. Over that time period, probably 90% of the children in the general population were also unvaccinated.
Thirty percent of pediatric cases were hospitalized. 90 percent of those were unvaxxed. That means 27 out of 100 unvaxxed were hospitalized. 10 percent of hospitalized were vaxxed. That means 3 out of 100 were vaxxed. Am I doing this wrong?
@@jdetar5304 It doesn't address the question. If 90% of the children in the general population were unvaccinated, then the fact that 90% of the hospitalized children were unvaccinated would mean that the vaccine had no discernable effect in reducing hospitalizations. This particular data point does not make the case for vaccinating children. (I have every reason to believe the vaccine *is* effective in children - just not from this data point.)
Not surprised this guy would use such trash data to push a narrative tbh
Not legal to vaccinate children under five have you not kept up to date with the facts?
Their are many different contributing factors to getting covid, its not just people weren't vaccinated so they died, this kinda narrative is what draws people to question the vaccination. The fact that we have separated to groups of people the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, when there are major underlining issues that come with that is abysmal
Thank you, my emotions still want a gigavalent pan dimensional mnra. More is better?
Ya I would like to not have my Immuno Comp. spouse get exposed every other week by infected people rolling into his office all the time. Would be nice if you actually get Evusheld.
When I was a young student at Stonybrook the LIRR out in Suffolk was diesel. Choo choo.
Thanks for your enduring dedication and your phone number
45:45 @Andria investigating if there is viral persistance with Long COVID
also at 47:50
People think that all vaccine work like the polio vaccine or chicken pox vaccine.
I have to admit I was a bit bewildered by Dr. Griffin's comment at the 14:00 min mark stating Vaccines won't keep you from getting infected. As in Zero percent ? I could understand if he said don't count on them for it, but Zero Percent? How about Small pox or measles vaccines, same thing?
They will always conveniently make up an excuse to keep you taking the vaccination and pfizer goes to the bank with 60 billion
Rather tragic how infected elderly patients were introduced into nursing homes. Indeed, nursing homes were forced to accept infected individuals. No wonder that half the mortalities seen in NY occurred in nursing homes.
Many people ask why fully vaccinated people would quarantine or choose to wear maks. Simple answer... vaccines reduce the risk of infection, symptoms, mild dease, hospitalisation and death but they don't prevent it. I continue to wear masks to reduce risk because I enjoy not feeling sick. The same applies to colds and flu. We rarely masked prior to 2020, but now that masking has become an acceptable norm, I and many others will continue wearing masks indoors in crowds.
Yeah, but the point is that you never bothered with masks before. It's just that now, most people are "traumatized" by the pandemic so it became a "norm" to mask at the expense of not showing you face, breathing volumn reduction, etc.
OK speaking for myself...I recently had COVID and the main symptom was 2 days of dry cough arround 20 minute intervals. Like everyone else pre-pandemic, I would never have even considered "testing" and woulda just bought cough drops and paid no more mind to the illness. And I only got the J&J. So I know it doesn't exaclty work this way, but for argument's sake, since it's 66% effective, if I was unvaccinated...maybe it will be a cough for 6 days. If you told me in 2020 I can mask for 2 years to prevent a potential cough for 6 days...I'd laugh in your face. And people have gotten bed-ridden flus like every year and they still have close personal contact and use facial expressions and hug strangers, the list goes on. I think most people will get over the pandemic. There will still be the compromised as well as genetically sensitive (long covid?) or whatever that will feel the need to be extra careful. But give it another year and I think most people will forget about these precautions. It's already happening in pockets.
Lol do you know physer released its papers by court order. And they say the vax don’t do anything . That’s science and documented. Wake up get facts or live like a scared rabbit.
@@rasmasyean Yeah, the war in Ukraine will be better remembered than the pandemic in 40-50 years.
Is there a breakdown of kids hospitalized with COVID versus for COVID?
Taps foot... You are LATE!
Thanks Vincent and Daniel.. p[assed on/shared
Oh god.. hot cross buns... You guys are in civilisation! The world isnt bagels Vincent
It would be really nice so I have to stick another Q-tip up my two year old nose, You can barely sit still for a forehead temp
Hi are you going to cover the latest Pfizer data release?
There is nothing of any consequence.
hi to the Twiv dudes... I will like to hear on UTR s of viruses and/or of Sarscov2. my Grandma use to say..."may be you are looking to much on the wrong spot!" when looking for lost car keys
Glossary. UTR. Untranslated region.
I started listening to get an update and got a morality lesson instead. Sheesh.
"I don't care about .." " I don't get ..." constant interruption by Racaniello. Why is that needed? He has proven so many times that he does not understand epidemiology of COVID so what is the point of allowing him so much bullying? Why is dr Griffin constantly yielding to this person? Can you make video yourself with some diagrams.
In either case there is nothing done here but the sheer talk. Is that so valuable to keep getting interrupted by annoying Racaniello instead of making your own video?
missedinformation ,disinformation
I see the pharma narrative still going on this channel. Cool beans
any chance for nasal spray of policlonals IgAs?
hi to the Twiv dudes... I will like to hear on UTR s of viruses and/or of Sarscov2. my Grandma use to say..."may be you are looking to much on the wrong spot!" when looking for lost car keys