I'm surprised nobody really noticed Larry pulled an EA with this video by doing a legacy edition of Fact Hunt and released 5 clips from previous Fact Hunt episodes with a small update that we could have gotten for pennies....
I can't believe you didn't mention the whole drama around their SimCity reboot, where they tried to force everyone to accept that always-online was a good thing and that the game was *literally* unplayable without it because of some silly stuff about how the game only managed to do what it did cause it used their super-duper special servers to handle the data from the game...until someone literally showed that was all a massive lie where they played for 20 minutes before the game realized the internet was no longer accessible from the computer...then people found ways to disable this built-in code that forced you to play online shortly after.
Yup, they wanted people to believe that the simulation was processed via online servers when in fact that was never the case. It also would've been really bizarre if it *was* the case.
Problem is that controversy came and went, and gamers sort of casually accepted always-online DRM, just like they accepted on-disc DLC, day-one patches, and paying real money for cosmetics. All these things had backlash at first, but now? They're kinda just a normal thing any game can have. The SimCity thing isn't really that notable anymore. Just a minor backlash on something totally normal now, even if it sucks.
You might as well add their microtransactions for the app version of dungeon keeper. Fact is there are so many issues with EA you could probably make an hour long list, and it would be easier to track down when it started going wrong - which honestly might make for a really interesting clip.
EA: The company that it literally a video game villain. And by "literally," I mean "Ultima VII" had the villain as the embodiment of EA by having the put up 3 geometric solids (a cube, a sphere and a tetrahedron) that when seen from above, look like their 2d counterparts. And EA's logo at the time just happened to be a square, a circle and a triangle. When Origin was making Ultima VII, EA was trying to buy them and Richard Garriott let his displeasure known by making them the villain. (EA still bought Origin and destroyed it-but not before releasing Ultima VII with EA as villain intact).
Ultima VIII also had the morphing object that cycled between the EA cube, sphere and tetrahedron. Clicking on it had the Avatar say, "I have not the strength, nor the wisdom to master such power... ...But one day I shall!"
I knew some people from EA Salt Lake City that worked on the Sims 3. Every one of them quit to work at smaller companies to spare them from the same things happening. Literally no one mattered and you weren't allowed to submit ideas. 2 of them are making educational games. Probably more fun than the Sims anyways
People forget EA used to be a cool dev in the 80s. One of the few that actually treated their designers like stars. And then Trip Hawkins left and everything went to shit.
EA also made good games in the 90's and 2000's too but after they made that infamous online services they went up in 2009 that's when they went downhill for here. It is really sad what EA has become. 😥
@@johnv7317 and EA now a days is just scrapping the bottom of the toilet bowl, unless they have gone past the bottom of the toilet bowl and have reached the bottom of the shit barrel?
The fact that Guru Larry could only fit 5 of EA"s forgotten moments of scumbaggery in this episode tells you ALL You need to know about EA's shitty business practices...
Around 5:20 you can hear him say something like "we can't talk about shady practices without talking about EA" That clued me in that the episode is repackaged. Lol
@@notaraven oops! Yeah that’s the time code I actually meant. I was just too lazy to find the right spot. Thanks for pointing out the real beginning where he says it.
EA hadn't yet thought of calling them "Legacy Editions" but, even on the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive, the later titles in at least the NHL, Madden, and FIFA series were essentially the same as the previous one or two games in the series just with roster updates and a new title screen.
It kills me that EA sells roster updates as new games every year and people pay their $65 bucks happily. The graphics change when the console generation changes. FPS games do it too except it's $65 for map packs. The EA sports games are more egregious in this regard, to me, because of the exclusive licenses associated with the NFL, FIFA and others. Imagine the quality of sports titles gamers could have if there were 3 or 4 companies making games for each sport.
For the days before patches could be applied on a console game that is understandable. But, not so much since consoles having hard drives/mass storage as a standard. For these sports games a simple patch or yearly DLC for the router and stats updates for the players and teams could be done with a 5 or 10 spot and some odd change. If they rework the engine or for a newer system, then I can see maybe get the game for full price.
EA literally, truly pimped out NPCs in real, actual life and I wasn’t even shocked to hear it. Didn’t even register any surprise whatsoever. That’s sad.
This is the fundamental problem. People still buy them, then those people shout complaints fruitlessly into Reddit or Twitter. EA are only looking one place for feedback: Sales figures. As long as those are healthy, they'll keep being shitheads
Remember when almost all games had to have multiplayer components, no matter how meaningless they were? Those were the days. Like how Bioshock 2 got one because people complained en masse that the first game didn't. "No multiplayer, no buy!" they said. Bioshock 2 sold worse than the original and the multiplayer was dead within a month. Because the multiplayer gamers were off playing their game of choice already.
I think I remember EA, or maybe Activision, saying single-player stories with no multiplayer wouldn't sell well. Not long after, the director of God of War PS4 basically gave them a middle finger.
You know things are bad when the scandals are so frequent that five of them can be forgotten and they'd still be a contender for worst company in videogames.
Kind of! I seem to recall at least one occasion of a game that said “Press enter to start” or something, because the original console it was made for had a keyboard… but the one it was ported to didn’t. I think Larry covered it in the past. So yeah, basically this DID happen, I think!
There was, believe it or not, actually a story somewhat like that that's been featured on Fact Hunt before. The Commodore 64 GS was essentially a normal Commodore 64 without the keyboard. A game that was designed for the platform, Terminator 2, couldn't get past the title screen since you had to press a key on a keyboard to progress. I think it was in the Unbeatable Games episode, go listen to the full story.
Me: “I hate playing online, because everyone is so much better than me no matter what I do.” EA: “Okay, we'll ban players who are too good.” Me: “Wait, NO-”
ea was one of the first companies added to my "avoid at all costs" list the only way I consume their products is at a very big discount or if I can snag it free somewhere
Torrent it at that point? Or buy used. The money doesn't even go to the devs anyway especially when the studio ends up closed and killed. All it does is line the pockets of the shitty executives.
I would have tried NFS Heat if there was a free demo, to check if the handling model wasn't total garbage (which caused me to quit Hot Persuit 2010 after the intro). But there was no free demo so they can go screw themselves.
hahaha i vividly remember the fine BS w/ used games...round the same time Capcom had that you can't delete saves nonsense. That time around the 2010's game companies really had it out for used games.
@@Larry Well technically in one way it is worse than piracy because with many people (may not be a big number) including myself if I pirate a game but end up liking it I will go out and buy a new copy of the game (either immediately or during the next big sale) that way I know that the developers/artists/publishers/etc are getting their money through each sale. But for second hand sales all the money goes to the person/store you bought it from none of that money would go to the people who made that game, and you have o way of knowing whether you are the 2nd or the 222nd owner of that copy of the game.
Madden 06 was the first Madden where ea had the NFL license exclusively so it doesn't surprise me that ea would do that because there was no other football games to play
Ah yes, the invisible hand of the free market that picks the customer's pocket, tosses them an inferior product, makes a sarcastic gesture while buying out the competition to avoid having to actually compete with price, quality or any other actual appeal... and then slaps the customer for complaining about the utter lack of quality or value for their money. Truly, the stock market was the finest invention of the proud non-working man at the top of the corpo hierarchy.
I knew someone who play tested EA games and when submitting bug reports management usually replied N.A.B. (not a bug), so remember those aren't bugs. They are game features!
Stuff like this is why I haven't purchased a game published by EA in a LONG time. I've played some of their games but I can guarantee you I didn't pay for them! If anything I sort of feel bad for any developers they've purchased in the last quarter century.
One of my favorites. EA massively interfered with Dead Space 3's development, making it into what it is in order to "break even" and when it unsurprisingly undersold because it was a joke of a game compared to it's prequels, what do they do? Blame Visceral games and disband them.
I remember when I used to watch Hard News by Screwattack (unfortunately they're all deleted now) and every week EA would be doing something new. It's when I started hating them.
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@@1rbdt They all drink out of the same poisonous well and they do so because the greater market is full of stupid, gullible rubes who have no idea how badly they're getting taken advantage of.
@@atmosdwagon4656 I thoght that was obvious from the fact that they still make bank despite holding the Golden Medal of Douchebagerry for over a decade now
@@1rbdt What's obvious to you and me, sadly, isn't obvious to enough people. I've been aware of EA's ruthlessness and treachery all the way back from 2000, and have vehemently opposed them after watching them butcher Westwood from within. To say nothing of those I knew in the game dev biz who worked for them during the "Gulag years" where EA violated a whole host of labor laws; there's a reason why they took most of their developers out of California and scattered them to the four winds across the states, and later, the world. And those reasons are "We lost a massive class-action lawsuit to our own employees in 2007." That lawsuit decision, incidentally, is what prompted their board of directors to install John Ricetello as CEO to improve the company's reputation both with consumers and abroad, because for that brief period of 2006-2010, EA were hemorrhaging valuable developers faster than they were able to acquire and churn money from them. That was longer than I wanted but uh...yeah. I know a LOT about that wretched company and the cretins who run it. Guru Larry could do a monthly series solely on the horrible, predatory shit EA has pulled and be done sometime around 2050, give or take a decade.
Kinda hilarious, when the show Judgment Day reviewed the PSP version of Madden 06 Victor did mention the fact the game would crash so frequently, but then dismissed it saying "It'll be fixed when it comes out" and Tommy gave it a 9. Oof.
@@Larry well, happy for anything, and sadly I cannot help you get better but I look forward to the day you're back in tip top shape sir. Hope all will be well!
EA: "Ok, we haven't had any PR shitstorm recently so we are doing pretty good. Let's hope all the scandals get forgotten soon" Larry Bundy Jr. "Not in Peter Molyneux's lifetime" EA:"😭"
What? No mention of what happened between EA and Slightly Mad, and the insane lengths the dev went through to save his company from being actively shut down? From mortgaging his house, to founding a shell company behind EA's back to hold the assets in so EA cannot get them. It's wild.
A super high kill/death ratio almost always means they camped. I love how Call of Duty and Battlefield have both adjusted their scoring around how much you're helping the team achieve the objective rather than "How many kills can ya get?!"
Shoot, I'd consider that more actively helping your team than with buzz kill campers. I figure, if you don't have some honorable deaths you didn't get your hands dirty, and at that point if you know the excitement of tactical modern combat, why the hell would one go back to camping?
Is this going to end up being a subsection of this series? You could easily make about fifteen "5 times EA did bad" videos and I'll watch every one of them.
You forgot to mention EA’s scandals regarding Maxis and other developers they bought out, only to screw up games like Spore and SimCity 2013, EA also tried to block rival game companies from making NFL games with the signing the exclusive NFL license!
They bought out a few companies in the 90's presumably just to get rid of competition. Notable examples that wasn't Maxis would be Bullfrog Productions, Westwood Studios, and Origin Systems.
@@jdb2002 I know that, but I want him to do one about the list of video games like Spore, SimCity, and even some of the James Bond 007 games, that lead to EA losing its license with 007 games.
This talk of "surprise mechanics" reminded me of Jim Sterling's character "The Surprise Mechanic." The character seemed about as incompetent as Kel Mitchell's Repairman character from "All That!"
I remember a billing error for some Warhammer Online game caused every customer to be billed for twelve months rather than one, resulting in the death of one customer's father.
"Electronic Arts... Arts... Aaaarts... If ever there was a call for a verbal equivolent of social services it would be this but they mostly go by EA these days so I can only assume they've changed their name to Extruding Arseholes..." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (hence lack of proper punctuation in the quote)
No but an entire series dedicated to EA fuckups would greatly help. Hell, give each mega-company their own dedicated playlist and I'll listen on repeat.
Impossible Mission, 1984. I'm not sure that their Megadrive catalogue counts as they were doing their level best to screw over Sega by avoiding platform licensing. (Not that Sega didn't partly deserve this.)
When considering all of the awful shit that Blizzard, Ubisoft, Konami, Nintendo, Activision, Bethesda, and Gearbox have pulled off over the last decade, would you consider EA to still be worse than all of them?
Pretty much, ya. These aren't even the big, well-known controversies. The worst thing EA has done, in my opinion, is buy up developers and destroy their franchises. Look at what they did to Command & Conquer and Mercenaries.
As far as we know EA didn't have a huge sexual harassment scandal like Activision does. So add that on top of Activision basically doing the same shit as EA and I'd say Activision is worse off. Gearbox as far as I can tell is more Randy Pitchford being a piece of shit than the rest of the company. Idk how Gearbox works in terms of who calls the shots but he is the CEO so I think it's safe to say he's to blame.
I firmly believe that if EA were the biggest publisher instead of Activision for the past few decades, things would have turned out much worse than they did.
I think it's a matter of scale and longevity. EA taught Activision all of their douchebag tactics. Activision has only improved the douchebag formula to surpass EA at a frightening extent these past few years.
Yes. As a sports gamer, I despise ea. For them to continuously gobble up exclusivity and purposely release a subpar product for multiple sports titles is deplorable. They’re money grubbing scumbags who care about nothing but profit. Fuck EA. Honestly fuck all big name devs. Leeches
I actually came back to this channel because good old Peter Molyneux is at it again and it reminded me of the guy that informed me on all his bulls$&@ 🤣
nah, all of these pale in comparison to the well over 5 companies, that where bought up by ea, and then raped to death by ea. Because the one thing that EA does best, is killing games and creativity.
Larry, what do you think EA will do to the supposed .skate reboot? I predict MIcro-transactions galore just to do tricks. I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, would you?
The only reason why they say/said it's worse than piracy is because you bought it legally without them seeing a penny which hurts them within their sphincter.
"Legacy Edition"-style games in the EA Sports line started even earlier than that, if not exactly by name. It's a bit niche, but the NASCAR Thunder games on the PlayStation 1, from 2002-2004, were simply roster/livery updates on top of the exact same game. The PS2/Xbox versions of those very same games were very different and got all kinds of neat content and gameplay revisions year-upon-year. But the PS1 games had the same cover art as its next-gen brethren, which made it a bit confusing. Other EA Sports games on the PS1 may have had similar paths after the PS2 was released, but I don't have personal experience with those.
Certain sports titles before online access they basically just did that revised the engine slightly and updated the roster. Once online gameing took off they started selling a new engine version with new features and a "Legacy Edition" using last years engine with the new games roster as the budget bin title. I believe they did offer roster update downloads as dlc.
15:04 that person saying to refrain from publicizing the madden softbrick so EA can address it in a suitable manner, bet they're not fans of EA anymore
LOVE that ending clip! Perfect. Bryz was such a treasure when he was in the league. I swear he did that shit on purpose. So much fun in contrast to all the other boring ass responses that other players gave. Props Larry!
Years ago, I took a tour of EA Salt Lake, which was actually Maxis. I was going to the Art Institute and our instructor was leading the tour. The funny thing was, my mom worked in that same building when she worked for the Bureau of Land Management king before EA took up residence there. EA Salt Lake is gone now.
How has Larry Bundy Jr not at 500k subscribers yet? He releases consistent quality content. He must've angered the Gods. Or worse yet, he angered EA Games.
Tae me, its amazing that folk still buy EA games. The company had little incentive tae change as they were still making oodles of cash. Gamers enabled EA and the rests anti-comsumer practices.
I love how we're pretending legacy editions were a new thing. EA has been doing that with sports games since the Genesis. The 96-99 versions of their games that came out were identical, just with updated rosters.
I'm surprised nobody really noticed Larry pulled an EA with this video by doing a legacy edition of Fact Hunt and released 5 clips from previous Fact Hunt episodes with a small update that we could have gotten for pennies....
I was thinking the same thing. Parts sounded kind of familiar.
haha - at least he didn't charge us.
You know I was just thinking this all seems familiar. And I swore I have seen a majority if not all these "facts" before.
5:14, you literally hear him refer to a different list that's not focused exclusively on EA
I noticed this too
How did you manage to narrow it down to 5? That's dedication Larry
Was thinking the same
Reoccurring monthly special.
A Part 2 perhaps? There's enough stories on the Fifa Maker that multiple videos on 5 events like this each vid is entirely possible.
That comment about ea is bound to show up on a list of scummy things was the pretty jarring in a video dedicated to EA.
If he did more then 5 the video would be 12 hours long lmao
I can't believe you didn't mention the whole drama around their SimCity reboot, where they tried to force everyone to accept that always-online was a good thing and that the game was *literally* unplayable without it because of some silly stuff about how the game only managed to do what it did cause it used their super-duper special servers to handle the data from the game...until someone literally showed that was all a massive lie where they played for 20 minutes before the game realized the internet was no longer accessible from the computer...then people found ways to disable this built-in code that forced you to play online shortly after.
Yup, they wanted people to believe that the simulation was processed via online servers when in fact that was never the case.
It also would've been really bizarre if it *was* the case.
Problem is that controversy came and went, and gamers sort of casually accepted always-online DRM, just like they accepted on-disc DLC, day-one patches, and paying real money for cosmetics. All these things had backlash at first, but now? They're kinda just a normal thing any game can have. The SimCity thing isn't really that notable anymore. Just a minor backlash on something totally normal now, even if it sucks.
@@uknownada Sad, but very, very true.
You might as well add their microtransactions for the app version of dungeon keeper. Fact is there are so many issues with EA you could probably make an hour long list, and it would be easier to track down when it started going wrong - which honestly might make for a really interesting clip.
Alright, calm down.
"After that, EA never did anything shitty ever again...for about 3 days."
Larry, thanks for making my day. Again.
@@fireflocs The blink of an eye would be too long. And yes, I am aware that I am answering 3 days after the original comment.
This is a "Legacy Edition" video, old clips re-used, this is exactly what EA would have wanted! Larry has pulled an EA move on us!
I figured it out after Larry made a big deal about EA showing up when the video is supposed to be dedicated to EA.
I noticed it as well.
EA: The company that it literally a video game villain.
And by "literally," I mean "Ultima VII" had the villain as the embodiment of EA by having the put up 3 geometric solids (a cube, a sphere and a tetrahedron) that when seen from above, look like their 2d counterparts. And EA's logo at the time just happened to be a square, a circle and a triangle. When Origin was making Ultima VII, EA was trying to buy them and Richard Garriott let his displeasure known by making them the villain. (EA still bought Origin and destroyed it-but not before releasing Ultima VII with EA as villain intact).
Was that the game with the easter egg where a pigeon is leaving a, uh, present on a torn up book that says "Emperial Architecture" on the cover?
Yes, and the fact the two main Fellowship 'recruiters' were named 'Elizabeth' and 'Abraham' 'EA' 😂 😂 😂
Except we can't kill the company and loot it corpse. saddly god i miss dungeon keeper.
Ultima VIII also had the morphing object that cycled between the EA cube, sphere and tetrahedron. Clicking on it had the Avatar say, "I have not the strength, nor the wisdom to master such power... ...But one day I shall!"
I wish I had billions of dollars so I could buy the company and forced them to not be evil.
I knew some people from EA Salt Lake City that worked on the Sims 3. Every one of them quit to work at smaller companies to spare them from the same things happening. Literally no one mattered and you weren't allowed to submit ideas.
2 of them are making educational games. Probably more fun than the Sims anyways
People forget EA used to be a cool dev in the 80s. One of the few that actually treated their designers like stars. And then Trip Hawkins left and everything went to shit.
He left to make his fortune creating the 3DO, so that turned out well for him! :D
EA also made good games in the 90's and 2000's too but after they made that infamous online services they went up in 2009 that's when they went downhill for here. It is really sad what EA has become. 😥
@@johnv7317 and EA now a days is just scrapping the bottom of the toilet bowl, unless they have gone past the bottom of the toilet bowl and have reached the bottom of the shit barrel?
The fact that Guru Larry could only fit 5 of EA"s forgotten moments of scumbaggery in this episode tells you ALL You need to know about EA's shitty business practices...
If EA ever died, what companies and studios should their IP’s go to?
I’d have Respawn go independent.
sadly Titanfall one is dead now
@@Matt-md5yt okay… what does that have to do with my comment other than the fact that Respawn made that game?
I think most would be auctioned off tae the highest bidders.
Sadly, EA has a deal with Tencent, to sell in China, and part of this deal includes a clause giving Tencent rights to all IP's if EA were to fold.
@CanTankerous Malcontent, Really!? Oh no...
Anything that company sticks their hands into pretty much goes to Hell.
The Irony of #2 5:20 .. Larry repacking this video from old videos on his channel 😂 love you Larry!
Around 5:20 you can hear him say something like "we can't talk about shady practices without talking about EA"
That clued me in that the episode is repackaged. Lol
@@notaraven oops! Yeah that’s the time code I actually meant. I was just too lazy to find the right spot. Thanks for pointing out the real beginning where he says it.
EA hadn't yet thought of calling them "Legacy Editions" but, even on the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive, the later titles in at least the NHL, Madden, and FIFA series were essentially the same as the previous one or two games in the series just with roster updates and a new title screen.
It kills me that EA sells roster updates as new games every year and people pay their $65 bucks happily. The graphics change when the console generation changes. FPS games do it too except it's $65 for map packs. The EA sports games are more egregious in this regard, to me, because of the exclusive licenses associated with the NFL, FIFA and others. Imagine the quality of sports titles gamers could have if there were 3 or 4 companies making games for each sport.
The 2022 soccer season hasn't even been played yet! Why are there already TWO editions of that game out!?
For the days before patches could be applied on a console game that is understandable. But, not so much since consoles having hard drives/mass storage as a standard. For these sports games a simple patch or yearly DLC for the router and stats updates for the players and teams could be done with a 5 or 10 spot and some odd change. If they rework the engine or for a newer system, then I can see maybe get the game for full price.
Are people just doing this for pc already .? like people still mod in current rosters for things like tecmo bowl and old wwe games .I
EA Sports: More of the same.
Electronic Sharts.
EA literally, truly pimped out NPCs in real, actual life and I wasn’t even shocked to hear it. Didn’t even register any surprise whatsoever. That’s sad.
There's actually a single simple work around for all of the problems with EA games:
Don't buy EA games.
This is the fundamental problem. People still buy them, then those people shout complaints fruitlessly into Reddit or Twitter. EA are only looking one place for feedback: Sales figures. As long as those are healthy, they'll keep being shitheads
Or downlaod them off of the internet
@@teighan7829 yes because the EA Games board of directors is screwing us
"Literally sold you the same game over and over" Todd Howard is in shambles right now.
At least Todd has the decency to admit Skyrim is still Skyrim. EA is calling this re-re-re-release of Fifa 2017, Fifa 2021!
@@benjaminoechsli1941 GTA V Expanded and Enhanced: "Am I a joke to you?"
Bethesda has been quickly becoming the next EA over the years...we just didn't notice.
Rockstar doing much the same.
Remember when almost all games had to have multiplayer components, no matter how meaningless they were? Those were the days.
Like how Bioshock 2 got one because people complained en masse that the first game didn't. "No multiplayer, no buy!" they said.
Bioshock 2 sold worse than the original and the multiplayer was dead within a month. Because the multiplayer gamers were off playing their game of choice already.
If there are any franchises I associate with multiplayer, it's Tomb Raider and Max Payne.
I think I remember EA, or maybe Activision, saying single-player stories with no multiplayer wouldn't sell well. Not long after, the director of God of War PS4 basically gave them a middle finger.
also it was released in 2010, when Call of Duty was the big online multiplayer game
@@uknownada I thought it was Valve?
@@GiordanDiodato Why would Valve say any of that when they hardly develop games anymore?
You know things are bad when the scandals are so frequent that five of them can be forgotten and they'd still be a contender for worst company in videogames.
I wonder if there has been any times where someone has wasted a ton of money just for a game company to give them nothing but a title screen
probably one of the old dos or older pc games
It was most likely an EA title!
No, you're a cynic!
Kind of! I seem to recall at least one occasion of a game that said “Press enter to start” or something, because the original console it was made for had a keyboard… but the one it was ported to didn’t. I think Larry covered it in the past. So yeah, basically this DID happen, I think!
It was called Diabo 3 at launch.
There was, believe it or not, actually a story somewhat like that that's been featured on Fact Hunt before. The Commodore 64 GS was essentially a normal Commodore 64 without the keyboard. A game that was designed for the platform, Terminator 2, couldn't get past the title screen since you had to press a key on a keyboard to progress. I think it was in the Unbeatable Games episode, go listen to the full story.
EA SPORTS... we have no shame
EA...Its not in the game...buy $100s of dlc/microtransactions/season passes etc.
EA SPORTS More of the same.
Me:
“I hate playing online, because everyone is so much better than me no matter what I do.”
EA:
“Okay, we'll ban players who are too good.”
Me:
“Wait, NO-”
ea was one of the first companies added to my "avoid at all costs" list the only way I consume their products is at a very big discount or if I can snag it free somewhere
game pass is very good for this reason
Torrent it at that point? Or buy used. The money doesn't even go to the devs anyway especially when the studio ends up closed and killed. All it does is line the pockets of the shitty executives.
100%. I haven't bought an EA game since 2003 (Earth and Beyond if you care) and I don't plan on that changing any time soon.
I would have tried NFS Heat if there was a free demo, to check if the handling model wasn't total garbage (which caused me to quit Hot Persuit 2010 after the intro). But there was no free demo so they can go screw themselves.
Better than Activision Blizzard
Well, EA has enough scandals for a few hundred videos. :]
hahaha i vividly remember the fine BS w/ used games...round the same time Capcom had that you can't delete saves nonsense. That time around the 2010's game companies really had it out for used games.
They considered them worse than piracy!
@@Larry i gave them what they wanted lol
@@Larry Well technically in one way it is worse than piracy because with many people (may not be a big number) including myself if I pirate a game but end up liking it I will go out and buy a new copy of the game (either immediately or during the next big sale) that way I know that the developers/artists/publishers/etc are getting their money through each sale. But for second hand sales all the money goes to the person/store you bought it from none of that money would go to the people who made that game, and you have o way of knowing whether you are the 2nd or the 222nd owner of that copy of the game.
@@willbeonekenobi that's not how that works
I had to pay to play my used copy of tekken online.
Ah yes, EA. The Devil's favorite child.
*Devil's*
Understood.
With Activision being the _actual_ Devil (more specifically, Kuntick).
@@elinfini and the imps who keep giving them money
Don't sully the Devil's fine name with such an association.
Madden 06 was the first Madden where ea had the NFL license exclusively so it doesn't surprise me that ea would do that because there was no other football games to play
Ah yes, the invisible hand of the free market that picks the customer's pocket, tosses them an inferior product, makes a sarcastic gesture while buying out the competition to avoid having to actually compete with price, quality or any other actual appeal... and then slaps the customer for complaining about the utter lack of quality or value for their money. Truly, the stock market was the finest invention of the proud non-working man at the top of the corpo hierarchy.
For a recap video, this is still well put together. Can't wait to see you do one on Nintendo.
That'd have to be spread across a couple of videos. One couldn't do it justice.
There's one in here so far, I think? Something along the lines of 'X Times Shigeru Miyamoto Was An Arsehole'.
That and times Nintendo were sued and won along with times Nintendidin't come first.@@oninineone
Not every day you hear someone say 'bumholes' on TH-cam. Good on ya,Larry
I knew someone who play tested EA games and when submitting bug reports management usually replied N.A.B. (not a bug), so remember those aren't bugs. They are game features!
You know it's a stupid company when it needs A shorthened
@@zilvertron needs what?
@@goffrd137 the letter A shortened
Stuff like this is why I haven't purchased a game published by EA in a LONG time. I've played some of their games but I can guarantee you I didn't pay for them! If anything I sort of feel bad for any developers they've purchased in the last quarter century.
Okay, the titty-tax was actually hilarious. 🤣
One of my favorites. EA massively interfered with Dead Space 3's development, making it into what it is in order to "break even" and when it unsurprisingly undersold because it was a joke of a game compared to it's prequels, what do they do? Blame Visceral games and disband them.
wasn't it rumored that there was a Star wars project being worked on by Visceral games at that time?
I remember when I used to watch Hard News by Screwattack (unfortunately they're all deleted now) and every week EA would be doing something new. It's when I started hating them.
I feel likesome day there will be a "But, hello you" that goes on for one whole minute
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Trying to play Scarlet Nexus, this game is frickin good, and it's better than E.A. Games.
Part 2? I imagine you could do 8 parts involving EA !
You forgot the 6th scandal, Larry; EA gives DarksydePhil constant lockups on the Xbox 360 version of Madden NFL 12.
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We hope this review of your video has helped you. EA.
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Proving once again that there are no limits to the depths to which EA will sink.
Activision Blizzard: allow me to introduce myself.
@@shis1988 EA's still on top tho. It's impressive honestly
@@1rbdt They all drink out of the same poisonous well and they do so because the greater market is full of stupid, gullible rubes who have no idea how badly they're getting taken advantage of.
@@atmosdwagon4656 I thoght that was obvious from the fact that they still make bank despite holding the Golden Medal of Douchebagerry for over a decade now
@@1rbdt What's obvious to you and me, sadly, isn't obvious to enough people.
I've been aware of EA's ruthlessness and treachery all the way back from 2000, and have vehemently opposed them after watching them butcher Westwood from within.
To say nothing of those I knew in the game dev biz who worked for them during the "Gulag years" where EA violated a whole host of labor laws; there's a reason why they took most of their developers out of California and scattered them to the four winds across the states, and later, the world. And those reasons are "We lost a massive class-action lawsuit to our own employees in 2007."
That lawsuit decision, incidentally, is what prompted their board of directors to install John Ricetello as CEO to improve the company's reputation both with consumers and abroad, because for that brief period of 2006-2010, EA were hemorrhaging valuable developers faster than they were able to acquire and churn money from them.
That was longer than I wanted but uh...yeah. I know a LOT about that wretched company and the cretins who run it.
Guru Larry could do a monthly series solely on the horrible, predatory shit EA has pulled and be done sometime around 2050, give or take a decade.
Kinda hilarious, when the show Judgment Day reviewed the PSP version of Madden 06 Victor did mention the fact the game would crash so frequently, but then dismissed it saying "It'll be fixed when it comes out" and Tommy gave it a 9. Oof.
it should have been given a 2 just for crashing frequently.
The fact (no pun intended) that you were able to narrow this down to JUST five scummy things EA has done is impressive.
Always a good day when Larry releases a new video. Hope you're on the positive side of mending up, and able to enjoy the holidays Sir Bundy
not at the moment sadly, really ill right now, hence this episode.
@@Larry well, happy for anything, and sadly I cannot help you get better but I look forward to the day you're back in tip top shape sir. Hope all will be well!
7:34 That Porzingis statue head tho
EA: "Ok, we haven't had any PR shitstorm recently so we are doing pretty good. Let's hope all the scandals get forgotten soon"
Larry Bundy Jr. "Not in Peter Molyneux's lifetime"
EA:"😭"
What? No mention of what happened between EA and Slightly Mad, and the insane lengths the dev went through to save his company from being actively shut down? From mortgaging his house, to founding a shell company behind EA's back to hold the assets in so EA cannot get them. It's wild.
A super high kill/death ratio almost always means they camped. I love how Call of Duty and Battlefield have both adjusted their scoring around how much you're helping the team achieve the objective rather than "How many kills can ya get?!"
Shoot, I'd consider that more actively helping your team than with buzz kill campers. I figure, if you don't have some honorable deaths you didn't get your hands dirty, and at that point if you know the excitement of tactical modern combat, why the hell would one go back to camping?
EA and Peter Molyneux... there's a plethora of material there for a great joke.
You can’t spell eavil without EA
16:10 That early Madden music really takes me back to being a kid!
Is this going to end up being a subsection of this series? You could easily make about fifteen "5 times EA did bad" videos and I'll watch every one of them.
Ya know I heard they challenge everything, including business ethics.
You forgot to mention EA’s scandals regarding Maxis and other developers they bought out, only to screw up games like Spore and SimCity 2013, EA also tried to block rival game companies from making NFL games with the signing the exclusive NFL license!
As someone who's played Spore since it came out, this is definitely their worst offense
They bought out a few companies in the 90's presumably just to get rid of competition. Notable examples that wasn't Maxis would be Bullfrog Productions, Westwood Studios, and Origin Systems.
Guru Larry should’ve done a list of developers that were screwed by EA, ruining the development of Spore and releasing it as a botched game.
@@Markimark151 He did a video of companies EA bought, then destroyed.
@@jdb2002 I know that, but I want him to do one about the list of video games like Spore, SimCity, and even some of the James Bond 007 games, that lead to EA losing its license with 007 games.
The last one hit hard... i refuse to believe they would literally do that.
I see what you did here, you clever Guru. Well played.
Imagine EA release this video "wanna know no.3,2 and 1? $39.99 DLC"
"After that, EA never did anything shitty ever again...Until they saw everyone pre-ordering again and realised they could get away with it"
7:21 Complaining about ANYTHING soccer related being boring is like complaining about water being wet.
Everyone’s favourite games dev.
Up until 2006
Actiblizz is worse now.
@@Heymrk uuuuuuu you're right
1:48 I appreciate the chiptune of 'Somebody's Watching Me' there haha
They're prolly going to pump a ton of those legacy games out until they loose the contract right away.
This talk of "surprise mechanics" reminded me of Jim Sterling's character "The Surprise Mechanic." The character seemed about as incompetent as Kel Mitchell's Repairman character from "All That!"
Haa!
With that title i'm pretty sure you can turn this "Special" into a Series.
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I remember a billing error for some Warhammer Online game caused every customer to be billed for twelve months rather than one, resulting in the death of one customer's father.
Larry Bundy Jr is best waifu
Forgotten? By who? I'm still pissy with EA
"Electronic Arts... Arts... Aaaarts... If ever there was a call for a verbal equivolent of social services it would be this but they mostly go by EA these days so I can only assume they've changed their name to Extruding Arseholes..."
-Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw (hence lack of proper punctuation in the quote)
GURU LARRY: "Five tales of EA being complete and utter scumbags."
ME: " Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"
No but an entire series dedicated to EA fuckups would greatly help. Hell, give each mega-company their own dedicated playlist and I'll listen on repeat.
EA, a company so derogatory that Larry recycles content from previous videos because it's not enough to talk about their scummy actions just once.
I just realised what the tune is in the background of your sponsor segment. That's a cheeky one that is.
EA when they haven't had a big scandal for a few months "Its free real estate"
EA Never Learns From Thier Mistakes, Thier Many Mistakes Over The Past Few Decades
Love your stuff dude!
cheers matey!
It's a good day to when I get to see a new Larry video!
Remember when EA actually made quality games that didn't screw over players?....Neither do I
Yes, in the megadrive days.
Impossible Mission, 1984.
I'm not sure that their Megadrive catalogue counts as they were doing their level best to screw over Sega by avoiding platform licensing. (Not that Sega didn't partly deserve this.)
oh you didnt even scratch the surface of what they have ruined
When considering all of the awful shit that Blizzard, Ubisoft, Konami, Nintendo, Activision, Bethesda, and Gearbox have pulled off over the last decade, would you consider EA to still be worse than all of them?
Pretty much, ya. These aren't even the big, well-known controversies. The worst thing EA has done, in my opinion, is buy up developers and destroy their franchises. Look at what they did to Command & Conquer and Mercenaries.
As far as we know EA didn't have a huge sexual harassment scandal like Activision does. So add that on top of Activision basically doing the same shit as EA and I'd say Activision is worse off.
Gearbox as far as I can tell is more Randy Pitchford being a piece of shit than the rest of the company. Idk how Gearbox works in terms of who calls the shots but he is the CEO so I think it's safe to say he's to blame.
I firmly believe that if EA were the biggest publisher instead of Activision for the past few decades, things would have turned out much worse than they did.
I think it's a matter of scale and longevity. EA taught Activision all of their douchebag tactics. Activision has only improved the douchebag formula to surpass EA at a frightening extent these past few years.
Yes. As a sports gamer, I despise ea. For them to continuously gobble up exclusivity and purposely release a subpar product for multiple sports titles is deplorable. They’re money grubbing scumbags who care about nothing but profit. Fuck EA. Honestly fuck all big name devs. Leeches
I actually came back to this channel because good old Peter Molyneux is at it again and it reminded me of the guy that informed me on all his bulls$&@ 🤣
Thanks, are you planning on dropping a sub at all? :)
Just did 👍
Keep up the great work
they are pretty bad business same with Activision Blizzard. also glad you did this one
Same for Activision blizzard, Ubisoft, etc. Pretty much every major AAA publisher is rotten.
All major video game publishers are bad.
"Been worse than piracy" fine then everyone pirate every EA game then, they gave you the green light. Oh I already do.
I'm curious, are you also planning to do a similar video on Activision Blizzard? I honestly believe they're arguably worse that any other game company
the SNES FIFA International Soccer music is a pure banger, in fact the whole soundtrack of that game was. Great Vid Larry :)
Bro is this a clip show just used as a vehicle for a sponsorship ad?
The old # of days since the last warehouse accident sign that is constantly getting reset to 0 gag, except it's number of days since the last scandal.
nah, all of these pale in comparison to the well over 5 companies, that where bought up by ea, and then raped to death by ea.
Because the one thing that EA does best, is killing games and creativity.
I'm surprised you could restrain yourself enough to leave it at five. There's soooooooo much shit with EA.
Larry, what do you think EA will do to the supposed .skate reboot? I predict MIcro-transactions galore just to do tricks. I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, would you?
I'm gonna say you only have 1 small, mediocre area to skate around. And if you want more you have to pay 40 bucks for each
The only reason why they say/said it's worse than piracy is because you bought it legally without them seeing a penny which hurts them within their sphincter.
"Legacy Edition"-style games in the EA Sports line started even earlier than that, if not exactly by name. It's a bit niche, but the NASCAR Thunder games on the PlayStation 1, from 2002-2004, were simply roster/livery updates on top of the exact same game. The PS2/Xbox versions of those very same games were very different and got all kinds of neat content and gameplay revisions year-upon-year. But the PS1 games had the same cover art as its next-gen brethren, which made it a bit confusing.
Other EA Sports games on the PS1 may have had similar paths after the PS2 was released, but I don't have personal experience with those.
Certain sports titles before online access they basically just did that revised the engine slightly and updated the roster.
Once online gameing took off they started selling a new engine version with new features and a "Legacy Edition" using last years engine with the new games roster as the budget bin title. I believe they did offer roster update downloads as dlc.
15:04 that person saying to refrain from publicizing the madden softbrick so EA can address it in a suitable manner, bet they're not fans of EA anymore
wait... some of these sound familliar... is this a reupload or did you talk about some these topics in your previous videos?
I was thinking the same thing.
Kinda crazy that I'm not sure if it's a reupload, or if EA is just so terrible that their antics are that familiar.
its a clip show, I've been too ill to make a new video, so thought this would be the next best thing. I'll have a 100% all new episode next weekend.
@@Larry ah... i knew something up... but yeah take your time man
LOVE that ending clip! Perfect. Bryz was such a treasure when he was in the league. I swear he did that shit on purpose. So much fun in contrast to all the other boring ass responses that other players gave. Props Larry!
Could do an Activision one next!
thats the plan :D
Years ago, I took a tour of EA Salt Lake, which was actually Maxis. I was going to the Art Institute and our instructor was leading the tour. The funny thing was, my mom worked in that same building when she worked for the Bureau of Land Management king before EA took up residence there. EA Salt Lake is gone now.
Criticizes EA for rereleasing games, reuses the same Irishman joke from an older episode. I'm on to you Larry!
I think the entire video is reused clips from older lists.
How has Larry Bundy Jr not at 500k subscribers yet? He releases consistent quality content. He must've angered the Gods. Or worse yet, he angered EA Games.
Tae me, its amazing that folk still buy EA games. The company had little incentive tae change as they were still making oodles of cash.
Gamers enabled EA and the rests anti-comsumer practices.
Worst part is people keep buying EA's titles...
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Ha! seeing that fun fact about the battlefield 1 statue prototype had me thinking, what if they actually had Eddie Murphy on the cover?
0:30 still going at it with randomly referencing Pinball Construction set after all these years. I appreciate the dedication.
I did wonder if anyone still got that gag :D
I love how we're pretending legacy editions were a new thing. EA has been doing that with sports games since the Genesis. The 96-99 versions of their games that came out were identical, just with updated rosters.
If you think about playing online as a subscription it makes sense why they would prevent pre purchased copies to get access online
The scarey thing is that I remember back in the Sega Genesis day as viewing EA as a mark of quality. Boy how times have changed.