Musician DISSECTS The Best Scenes In SOME KIND OF MONSTER by METALLICA!
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Correction: It was Bob Rock that wanted Holier Than Thou as the first Black album single not Lars. In the clip from A Year and a Half In the Life of Metallica they are sitting together and Lars is nodding along with Bob but turns out he wasn't agreeing after all. ;) Thanks to @ajzamojski for letting me know.
Mike, I haven't watched the video yet. I don't know if you know there is a book that came out shortly after that was written by the filmmakers called this monster lives. It's really good and they talk in depth about their Journey making the film and more about some of the things that went on with the band that wasn't included in the footage
Got that year and half documentary 2 video set for my 17th birthday back 91 or was it 92..?? Watched both of them that many times i felt like i was in metallica lol. I was obsessed with this band from 88 to 96. They seemed like such fun loving dudes, living the dream, so the some kinda monster documentary was a difficult watch, like invasion of the body snatchers, what happened to my heros kinda thing.
But also Bob does say that the lyrics werent great so i think that he wasnt a fan either.
I still always think of Bob Rock saying the song had cool dynamics on the er other Metallica documentary.
I wondered if the therapist's greatest contribution was to piss *everyone* off to the extent that he gave the band a common enemy to unite against.
LMFAO
and he was earning 40k a month to do that! god i wish
I think it was really like that. He had a background as a business psychologist, where his approach often was to create a team spirit by making the others ganging up on him in order to overcome their differences.
nah. he probably tells everyone that's what his intention was. but that couldn't be further from the truth. watch his body language and posturing and wording. he's very manipulative. def high-ish IQ, but not high IQ enough to mastermind a plan like that. when he handed the lyrics to james, he really thought he did something. that wasn't an act. he was wicked butthurt that james thought it was silly.
Well known team building tactic in business and most prominently - in the military. That's where a lot of the rationale for the DI comes from.
Well known team building tactic in business and most prominently - in the military. That's where a lot of the rationale for the DI comes from.
Fav part of that documentary is when Lars’s dad says ‘delete that!’ 😂😂😂. Absolutely hilarious and honest advise on that weird song.
RIP Torbin Ulrich
But it actually was good, and that sucks
Also WRONG!. Thar weird transic section was the vest thing ive heard from them. Maybe dont listen to a 70 yr old when ur 40 and trying to stay afloat.
He was so honest it's great
If its the weird song that had a lot of melody and was really slow an laid back. That was the most beautiful thing Metallica ever played in their discography and they completely scratched it. I was so dissapointed.
Eventhough this is my least favorite period for Metallica, I always come back to this documentary. It's such a fascinating documentary. A must watch in my opinion.
It seems more like a documentary on mental health instead of a documentary of a band which is really fascinating
I always felt that Lars yelling FUCK! at James face was part of a therapy thing. Like if Phil told Lars to really let everything go out of him, then the camera just captured that. But James keeping his cool always gave me the feeling it was a "game" moment. Not that it was a fake moment, but part of a process understood by everyone in the room.
cool take. i always wondered how james kept his cool. he was changed man by then tho, lol.
Oh for sure. If it wasn't James would've launched Lars across the room.
I see the documentary differently since I’m not really a Metallica guy. On one level, it’s just a good music doc. On another level, it’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. Like a metal version of The Office.
Or an irl version of Spinal Tap
I love you for this.
The Doc is just 100% BEYOND parody lmao.
@@evanward4303this therapist goes to eleven
James - "this is part of me trying to be unfamous" ..... cuts to James driving down the highway in a cartoon hot rod with flames and skulls pained on it
_I DON'T WANT TO BE COOL ANYMORE!_
_WELL I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE!_
"Delete that!" The greatest quote in the history of Metallica
Nuh uh. It’s “D-leet dat.”
That show Metalocalypse on Adult Swim from way back in the day had an episode in which they hired a therapist. It was clearly inspired by this documentary. It was hilarious too. LOVED that show. And Dethklok is amongst the greatest fictional bands of all time.
Do you kids like coffee?
@@N3gativeR3FLUXfolks....it's "folks"!!!
Kids.....pff
Yeahs, i remembers thats
Dr. Rockso the rocking roll clown
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C-c-c .. cyeah baby !! I do coccaine !!
You should watch some of the bonus footage they shot. There's like hours of it but there's some good stuff there. There's a part where Kirk is struggling to play a riff and can't quite get it, James is trying his hardest to be patient with him and Lars is in the background like "Dude, your sweating." Another is the whole Swizz Beatz/Ja Rule collaboration. It's probably the worst rap/rock crossover ever, it's downright terrible, but it's fascinating to watch these guys put it together and see how into it they are. "Ja's hot right now." - Russel Simmons.
Gonna do that in another video. Didn’t want this one to go too long.
I’ve seen several of the deleted/bonus scenes before, but the part where they’re in the studio with Swizz Beats? Dude…I thought I knew everything about Metallica, but I’d NEVER heard that song before I found this comment. It’s unreal lol.
@@GrantHyea they made a song for some motorcycle fast and furious failed franchise, it was BAD 😂😂😂. It’s all on TH-cam lol
The Dave and Lars segment is also extended on those deleted scenes.
Also the moment Lars yells “he fucking left the band”. Rather interesting that the most recognizable scene is actually a deleted one.
You touched on something that I thought was great. Not just the realization you have a problem (whatever it might be) but what can YOU do to fix it.
Figuring that out and implementing it can for sure be a challenge.
The Napster thing generated one of the best flash animations in HISTORY. "BLOOD, SWEAT, AND MOTHER F'ING BEER!!"
Camp Chaos! 😁
BEER GOOD!
DAVE'S PISS BAD!
never heard of that animation
ECW's Sandman had that slogan in the 90s already
@22:24 I don't know if you did, but listen to the band commentary. Kirk said he was genuinely enraged by Phil handing lyrics over to James. In the film, Lars seems to be the last one to be done with Phil in what is actually a bonding moment for Lars and James.
The book This Monster Lives goes more in depth in that scene. Apparently, Lars wanted Phil to come to tour with them, so when James was talking to Phil about scaling back and Lars was backing him up, Phil had a genuine shocked looked on his face
He f*cking left the band! Period, Exclamation point! 😂
It’s constructed and edited but it still blows my mind how incredible Robert’s technique is and his presence when performing.
I have to say their therapist was high on himself.
how so? like he had an ego himself bc he was the therapist for the biggest metal band?
You’re probably the best guitar/ music TH-camr/ and can we get a ride the lightning album review please🙏🏻🙏🏻
You should do more long format stuff like this. Good stuff
The Thing that Should not Be was one of their earlier songs that was in the same tuning. However, when they played it during the S&M concert, it was tuned half step down from standard.
To be fair, Metallica always played Thing in C# tuning live. Even during the Damage Inc. Tour in 86', they played it half-step down from the studio recording.
My guess is that James wasn't able to sing up to pitch live, so they dropped it down for live performances.
This is the documentary that got me into playing guitar, dead serious. I've seen it so many times.
Reason Paul wrote GET BACK so easily was because he was directing it at Yoko…that’s where “Jojo” came from…”GET BACK JOJO(Yoko)”…and every time he’d say it he’d look directly at her
Anything Metallica related that you upload, I'm here! Can't get enough
Dude, read the book! This Monster Lives. So much more info and perspective
You should also read the book This Monster Lives. It goes more indepth on stuff they didn't film that were just as fascinating.
It's documentaries like this and the Beatles "Get Back" that allow you to get a glimpse of what was happening at that time. Aerosmith's "The Making of Pump" was also a great watch for some of the same reasons. I wish there would have been something like this for classic Van Halen, but then again, I prefer the larger than life mystique that band possesses; not to mention that everyone probably had non-disclosure agreements most likely. The closest we got to anything like that was The Tape Archive's great TH-cam documentaries on the before and after of 1984.
The documentary came out 20 years ago.....and think of where they are right now.
Dude I just clicked . Haven’t watched yet. My man Mike watching this and breaking it down is the EXACT type of content that’s made for me after work 😂 love it man. Got my water and meal. Bout to watch
As someone who has been to rehab and is still struggling with my alcoholism, I relate so much with James. I watched this documentary countless times in my teen years and now I have a totally new perspective on it.
As a coincidence this documentary was released just 20 years ago. 😮
St Anger was just a record that was totally overthought and when that happens everything's a struggle. Even on the St Anger tour when I saw them in London I think they played 1 from the album.
Most bands have that 1 album that sticks out from the rest because it just doesn't work.
The therapist creaming $40k a month is an utter piss take. He probably retired after how much he made from them.
Documentary showed us what it’s actually like to be in a band in a form that we have not really seen for up to that time. It’s pretty common knowledge, but this one really showed the average exactly everything you have to go through to be a successful😊
Always ahead of the game with your episode ideas! Koodos!
I find that the just get together and see what happens rarely works as well. What ive found works best for me is coming to the band with an idea or a basic structure and then letting the other members have input and try ideas and make it a collaboration at that point.
Dude this was an awesome video! You should totally do more of these
I've come to the conclusion that you are the most likeable person that I subscribe to. Keep pumping out the great content!
Wish they would of released temptation... that was a really good song
Kind of did with If Darkness Had A Son
Loved the album when it came out and still do. Some songs are a bit longer but there’s some great songs on it
i can tell you really like metallica because i always see your comments on metallica related videos
The Playboy article from around this era is a good supplemental read for this.
"Ugh...the therapist" Truer words have never been said.😆
So that’s actually not Robs apartment; that’s a room at HA. Each guy has their own room at HQ to crash. That was actually brought up on a recent Metallica podcast.
Wow I'm glad we got a *Musician* to break down this trainwreck
Great video my man. Really well done.
for anyone looking for another great music documentary, check out the one about Hallas making conundrum, the core of their band relies on everyone having creative control
Kirk, the "scared child
That was me while growing up. Can relate.
It's hard to believe the events in some king of monster are more than 20 years old. We are old man!😜
If you watch the extra footage, it always felt to me like SKOM had two main story arcs. One were the psychological issues between Lars and James (and the demons they had to face themselves). The other one was Jason leaving the band and then being „in limbo“ for a significant period, basically the whole power struggle between Jason and James (and the band still having psychological scars after Cliff‘s death).
Get Back (or the Let It Be movie from the 1960s) were probably similar to SKOM since they were both showing a band in a crisis. But the Beatles seemed more mature, and most of the arguments they had were actually normal band disputes. It was four guys reaching the age of 30 while having spent a decade of touring, album recordings and crazy media frenzy together, with all of them already having their own solo careers in mind (and John, Paul and George becoming songwriters too big to be in the same band). With Metallica it seemed like they were all in some form of midlife crisis (including Bob Rock), figuring out something new without finding a proper direction, and then eventually deciding on trying to get their shit together to keep the band working.
Lars passive aggressive manipuilation of the situations, the therapist trying to weasle his way into the creative process. This film has so many great third eye opening moments about how the world works.
This was a cool video to watch.
I've seen this movie twice since it came out. After watching your take on it, I think it would be cool to watch this kinda stuff with you around, you've got some pretty neat observations about things.
Watched this movie alot when I was single😊
You have a gift for commentary. Would love to see this kind of video about the making of the Black album.
It was actually the other way around with Enter Sandman. James & Bob thought Holier Than Thou was the first single. Lars was adamant about it being Enter Sandman.
Your comment on James wearing overalls had me dead 😂😂😂
St. Anger, showing the world you never go full nu-metal.
Hee hee..i see what you did there😅
Except all those nu metal bands are extremely successful and achieved everything they set out to do….?
Jason was right when he said it was lame.
I’ll always be thankful for Albums 2-4
That was a great run.
I can't wait for the sequel, I AM THE TABLE!
My buddy and rhythm guitarist saw it 3x in theaters back in the day
The hard to take him serious in overalls part had me laughing hysterically haha
I wouldn't characterize Robert as going from rags to riches, really. He had already accomplished quite a bit before auditioning. Suicidal even opened for Metallica on one tour, along with Candlebox. It was a really cool show, but no one had any clue that he would eventually land his spot in the band.
True but if you take Metallica's level and compare it to ST it's lightyears beyond.. So even if Robert was making good money, what he made through Metallica would consider that to be rags. Not literally of course. ;)
@@TheArtofGuitari wonder why is everyone so impresed with rob playing battery in audition? did you all hear jason newsted audition in 1986?
It looked like a hotel room
Remember seeing Robert playing with Ozzy at Ozzfest in the late 90's. He would literally spin in circles whipping his braids on stage like 30 times while still playing. Craziest thing to see. And always loved him in ST and Infectious Grooves. Amazing he's been with the band for over 20 years now.
@@TheArtofGuitar True, the pay grade was a significant increase.
Never realized how much better the snare sounds in some of the clips compared to the album.
I respect them as artists immensely. As people... well there's a couple of them I could do without.
Great video man!
This is so interesting. Love to get your take on it
Didnt knew I needed this.. Thanks
Didn't know*
and james is still struggling with alcohol addiction praying for the brother
interesting to me is_ they NEVER really opened that pandoras box as they were open about nearly anything else before that. It feels like metallica shut themselfes "in" to some degree the last years.
Not anymore he isn’t.
@@Ranganation
Citation needed.
loved this content. It would be cool if you do "A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica" documentary too!
Even though this one got demonetized I think I still need to do Year and a Half. I'll have to see how excited I get about it.
You should review the Elton John tribute, they really killed it!!
I love James' scripted angry door slamming!
James kinda looks in a different world throughout this whole thing. He has a completely different energy than usual.
The thing with therapists is that they serve as mediators within groups who aren’t getting along. It’s really critical to have. Otherwise as soon as something triggers one person a war will go off based on cycles everyone is going through. The therapist can stop that stuff and play like a ref to facilitate legit discussion; rather than fighting
Holding a band together is like holding a bad marriage together! Been there done that!! 🤘
idk man kirk and james do look like the grandparents that make reallllly good brownies- but mommy lars sounds good too
Will you ever do a reaction to A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica? Would love to see that.
It’s in the works. Revisiting it after all these years is wild. They seem so young. Hehe.
@@TheArtofGuitarAwesome! 😀
@@Danjoker.I watched those two vhs tapes so much.
I'm sure you've seen the outtakes of it that have been on TH-cam for a couple years now...or I hope anyway! I watched it maybe a year ago, it really took me back. Looking forward to that project.
sorry you got demonitized bro but I watched this whole thing this morning during my day off and really enjoyed it! I hope at the least its good for your engagement, dropped a like . Thanks for breaking it down I avoided watching it for the same reason didnt want to cringe 😅
Interesting point about the Low Tunings affecting interest and ability to come up with vocals, songs to suit them. The whole album tuned so low with no solos makes it all very samey. Id love to know how the music would work in standard tunings, Drop D, complete with Kirk working in solos.
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I'm really curious to hear you expand on the Napster thing coming "full circle". I have my opinions on it and it's effect on the industry, it'll be cool to compare notes.
It is funny seeing all these artists who pandered to the teenaged fans during Napster by saying "all bands care about is the money so what if you get a song for free" and all of them now are charging ridiculous x10 market prices just to see them play live. The film and video game industries combated piracy with an iron fist. The music industry should have been united on this and now they all complain that no one makes money anymore.
But you're ignoring what streaming has done to movies.
That therapist really annoyed me :rolleyes:
Awesome video dude! It’s funny actually that the way you felt originally about this movie was totally the opposite experience for me. The movie came out when I was 16 and started taking guitar and drum playing seriously round that time. My mum got me to watch the movie and it turned me into a Metallica fan! My favourite period of Metallica’s career will always be the 80’s for me since becoming a fan, but I will always appreciate this movie and St. Anger for allowing me to explore their back catalogue. At the time I was studying media and went on to producing an animated music video for the song Battery which got me my best grades in college. Was such a blast at that time in the 00’s despite the bands struggles.
No matter what, it’s pretty ballsy to record all that and show it to the world.
How many of us would be willing to be recorded at our most vulnerable and fucked up, and have it shown to millions upon millions of people? Many of which have idolized you and your band for decades?
Dude is good at picking the gems! I got a lot of life lessons from this
SKOM is a great documentary. and the fact that they put it out there is unreal.
One thing they left out, for Jason's sake. The part where he wanted back in the band and they decided no. it was nice of them to not put it in.
How is that possible you never saw it all before! So weird to me. Cool vid as always. 🤟🤟🤟🤟
LOVE the shirt!
I first saw this documentary when I was 18 and thought the guys were cool and tough.
I watch it now in my late 30s and I think they look like immature little kids.
Still my favorite band.
What?! I can't believe the first thing you just said! :D One of my favorite movies! :) I hope that question is fitting in here, but first of all, thanks for all the great content. Especially the tab book series is really helpful. Now what I wanted to ask you, do you have any video or something in general to say about the difference betweeen what a guitar player should sound like live vs. sounding on recording? I am asking, because likewise to you, I love Metallica. Now if you watch them live, they surely don't play as clean, as in the studio and I wonder, how big of a deal that is. I mean sure..I would consider myself still a beginner, since I am selftaught and mostly been noodling about on the fretboard the last couple of years. I mean every professional band I know, layers the songs in the studio and they play it partwise and not the whole song through, but if I record a cover for youtube I try to play it all the way through and alway mess up at some point..I guess my question is, how accurate should my playing be and how do I know, where I am with this, being realistic and not trying to be as good as a band, that played most of their lives live. Thanks in advance!
I haven't watched this doc in like 20 years, but I've always felt it would have been much cooler if it had scenes showing each band member pull out $300-$400 at the end of every day and personally hand it over to Phil.
Bob rock did more than that therapist. He was the only level headed guy in that whole documentary
"Some Kind of Mid-Life Crisis" should have been the title of that movie
Rob looks stoned to the bone in that interview 😂
I just want to end it: Death Magnetic was GREAT.
100% agree. I like Hardwired and love 72S but DM is still my favorite 21st century Metallica album. It's a shame that people don't talk more about it
@@diegovaldes1408 They do. Mostly the crappy production.
I'm not one of those people who crashes around talking about "they changed with this album" or "they sucked after that album" at all, it's mostly all subjective and we just like what we like and I don't judge anyone based on their favorite Metallica records. That said, my personal interest in them waned significantly by Reload, and I don't think I've even listened to Reload and any albums beyond it all the way through. Sometimes I feel I should give those records another shot but I just never do. I've also said I want to see them live again but have skipped 4 local appearances that I can remember and haven't seen them live since 1998. All that's to say, Mike summed it up perfectly: it may not be my bag anymore but I'm damn glad I live in a world where Metallica exists. We're very lucky people, everyone who was alive and grew up with the music from 1965-1995 was given a real gift.
I watched it all the time growing up, helped a lot through rough times. The JITS videos on their website were funnier and a cooler hang seeing the process of the album.
Phil clearly overstepped his mark, but I think he ultimately did his job. Metallica has always been a gang that operates best when they have something to push against, and Phil was brought in because that gang dynamic had fractured. The fact that the band came together to decide to move on from Phil was a sign that the dynamic had healed
Great analysis but it must be remembered that this movie was created to make a narrative that suited the Metallica brand.
I could've sworn that music recording was pretty much all digital by '91. I know a lot of mixing was done digitally by then anyway.
You gotta see it again with the maker's commentary.
Good video idea, mike!
that was good i enjoyed your break down